Conservative media betrayed, failed its audience
There’s truth being told in conservative circles today, for those who are willing to hear it.
Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, for example, appears to be throwing his support behind the so-called DREAM Act, which would allow young immigrants brought here illegally as children to attend college and earn citizenship:
“In the next Congress, I am committed to working on upward mobility policies that will ensure people who work hard and play by the rules can rise above the circumstances of their birth and leave their children better off. The conservative movement should have particular appeal to people in minority and immigrant communities who are trying to make it, and Republicans need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs to them.”
And Conor Friedersdorf, writing in The Atlantic, asks why so many of his conservative colleagues were shocked and surprised last night, given that the outcome had been predicted for weeks by polls and expert analysis.
His conclusion: Because under the business model employed by the right-wing media at Fox News and elsewhere, it is more profitable to tell conservatives what they want to hear, not what they need to hear.
“But guess what?” he asks his fellow conservatives.
You haven’t just been misinformed about the horse race. Since the very beginning of the election cycle, conservative media has been failing you. With a few exceptions, they haven’t tried to rigorously tell you the truth, or even to bring you intellectually honest opinion. What they’ve done instead helps to explain why the right failed to triumph in a very winnable election.
Why do you keep putting up with it?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because Romney supporters like Jennifer Rubin and Hugh Hewitt saw it as their duty to spin constantly for their favored candidate rather than being frank about his strengths and weaknesses. What conservative Washington Post readers got, when they traded in Dave Weigel for Rubin, was a lot more hackery and a lot less informed about the presidential election.
Conservatives were at an information disadvantage because so many right-leaning outlets wasted time on stories the rest of America dismissed as nonsense. WorldNetDaily brought you birtherism. Forbes brought you Kenyan anti-colonialism. National Review obsessed about an imaginary rejection of American exceptionalism, misrepresenting an Obama quote in the process, and Andy McCarthy was interviewed widely about his theory that Obama, aka the Drone Warrior in Chief, allied himself with our Islamist enemies in a “Grand Jihad” against America. Seriously?
Conservatives were at a disadvantage because their information elites pandered in the most cynical, self-defeating ways, treating would-be candidates like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain as if they were plausible presidents rather than national jokes who’d lose worse than George McGovern.
How many months were wasted on them?
How many hours of Glenn Beck conspiracy theories did Fox News broadcast to its viewers? How many hours of transparently mindless Sean Hannity content is still broadcast daily? Why don’t Americans trust Republicans on foreign policy as they once did? In part because conservatism hasn’t grappled with the foreign-policy failures of George W. Bush. A conspiracy of silence surrounds the subject. Romney could neither run on the man’s record nor repudiate it.
The most damaging Romney gaffe of the campaign, where he talked about how the 47 percent of Americans who pay no income taxes are a lost cause for Republicans? Either he was unaware that many of those people are Republican voters, or was pandering to GOP donors who are misinformed. Either way, bad information within the conservative movement was to blame.”
The piece gets stronger from there, including language I’m not allowed to publish on this blog. If you’re a conservative seriously concerned about your movement’s future, I highly recommend it. Because if you don’t get this part right, you cannot get the rest of it right.
– Jay Bookman
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Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
1:35 pm
Fred,
Lemme know when you can come up with something on your own. Your posts on charter schools was nothing more than a rehash of Jays thread on the subject a few days ago. No different than those ti
rushbots that you whine about incessantly. As for the several examples you put up on charter schools so what? Jeez dude. Get a frigging grip on reality. Do you have any idea how much money is wasted or lost to graft every year in public school systems. But go on copying Jays debate points like a good little minion while whining every day about rushbots. The irony is not lost on us.
attitude is everything
November 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
Sewer Rat Democrats
November 7th, 2012
1:32 pm
_______
There are a lot of “angry” people on this blog today.
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
larry – Absalom! Absolam! Absolam! – seen em 3 times
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
1:36 pm
Dow down 276 points. The Obama reelection effect already at work.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
1:37 pm
S. R. Democrats –”Well, when you start your campaign in the gutter lying about Romney’s taxes and progress to the sewer calling him a murder and the tell me that I didn’t build the business that now employs 410 people, I know you haven’t done anything positive and have to depend on the moron vote…..”
So how much did you donate to the Romney campaign, Champ? (laughing)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:38 pm
…and the[sic] tell me that I didn’t build the business that now employs 410 people…
Obama was speaking about the infrastructure that your business uses, not the business that you built.
Your echo chamber deceived you and you are parroting their words.
You’ve just proved Jay’s point.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
Doom — “Dow down 276 points. The Obama reelection effect already at work.”
Quick, sell all your stocks and buy GOLD, GOLD, GOLD! It’s what Glenn Beck would do! (laughing)
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
1:39 pm
DemocratsRepublicans have chopped up and pandered to various segments of AmericaExample: Ragheads
Food Stamps
Will go to the NAACP and ask them why they don’t want jobs
Illegal Alien
Amnesty
Anchor Babies……. and on and on and on
We are now the weaker for it
Amen.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
November 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
Between the Tea party and and the Bush legacy I dont know who did a better job..LOL
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
1:40 pm
“cold hard facts..”
arp – correlation is not causation.
Please re-read the article, and try to get a little taste of the real world. I will help your grasp on reality, and help your attitude as well.
attitude is everything
November 7th, 2012
1:41 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:38 pm
I agree with you…there is a song that the President sings about that…”You Did Not Build That”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQu2SVFF-cU&feature=related
iBS Aplenty
November 7th, 2012
1:42 pm
I found something truly compelling in this morning’s AJC electoral map. It appears, at last count, that the citizens of Florida cast approximately 8.4 million votes in the presidential election. To get a sense for the turnout in the Sunshine State, the state of California cast only approximately 9.2 million votes in the election and California has over twice as many people in that state….remarkable turnout in FL.
Now, to the meat and potatoes of the piece: Mitt Romney is correct – there are an increasing number of people in this country who’ve been raised to think, not in terms of opportunity and freedom, but, rather, in terms of what benefits can I get from government. Ultimately this thinking will lead to the situation in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy. Countries where the government spends & borrows to pay for unsustainable promised benefits. Result, they have to renegotiates/repudiate/inflate/tax their way out of their sovereign debts. People leave, country’s GDP falls, productivity declines,…just ask the Europeans.
Mitt wasn’t elected, but, on this point, Mitt was correct.
ITS ALL BUSH'S FAULT
November 7th, 2012
1:43 pm
Fool me once , eh how does that go again?
Christian Coalition Kills Republican Party
November 7th, 2012
1:43 pm
Whoever listens to others and believes everything they hear is very gullable and i would think that most that listen to FOX take it as one of their news outlets and not the sole one. In fact, i like FOX news and find it better than most. I had heard that MSNBC was massively liberal and could not believe it so i viewed it for about 15 minutes on election night and i was amazed at how radical it was to the left. It was as if the entire election coverage was being ruled by Jesse Jackson at his prime. They were spending all of their time getting everyone into a frenzy about how long voting lines in VA was the result of a concerted effort by the Republican party to not get Democrats to vote. What a boat load of whooy! They had massive turnout by both Democrats and Republicans and I did not hear them complaining or leaving the polls, just that MSNBC decided that it was some massive conspiracy as if somehow Republicans would be willing to wait in line but not the Democrats. The worst I actually heard of was in GA in some parts of Fulton County but his was from massive incompetence and they will be subject to fines and possible law suites as a result.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
1:43 pm
To those hating Georgia and it’s people……. why don’t you just leave? The door is open and you are free to go.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 7th, 2012
1:43 pm
Dow down 276 points. The Obama reelection effect already at work
Funny how the increase in the Dow since Obama’s original election is not to be “credited” to Obama but a drop must be….. sounds like a gas issue for poor widdle Doomy. Guess them genius econ professors he had that used home economic examples did not teach him that a predicted reelection of Obama was already factored into the market prices. Another Doom failure just like his election prediction.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
…but, rather, in terms of what benefits can I get from government.
There’s your sign.
DebbieDoRight - Plantation Liberal (In Good Standing)
November 7th, 2012
1:44 pm
NOTICE TO ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS!!!!!
Please take those “Forward 2012!” stickers OFF your car before sundown today. There’s a contingent of angry, pizzed off old white men with guns looking for someone to shoot at. Don’t let that someone be YOU!!!
Paid for by the Wives of the Angry Old White Men Who Have To Live With Their Cranky Azzes.
TDone
November 7th, 2012
1:45 pm
Be carefule what you ask for, you just may get it.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
1:45 pm
“Morality” — “To those hating Georgia and it’s people……. why don’t you just leave? The door is open and you are free to ”
To those hating the US and *its* people, the same offer is available.
F. Sinkwich
November 7th, 2012
1:45 pm
He who robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul’s vote.
The Paulista’s voted in mass yesterday, and are now the majority.
America is over. Welcome to the United States of France.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
To those hating Georgia and it’s people……. why don’t you just leave?
I don’t hate Georgia or it’s people.
And I was born here, sport.
Just west of Peachtree Street.
Mick
November 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
For the zillionth time, we are not greece nor any of those other countries for many reasons but here’s the most important: We still are having babies (replacement workers) over here. Granted, they are mostly hispanic but still adding to the population. Over there, not so much…
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
Joe mama,
Judging by the rise in gold I think those folks who listened to glen beck are sitting pretty right about now.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
iBS — “Mitt Romney is correct – there are an increasing number of people in this country who’ve been raised to think, not in terms of opportunity and freedom, but, rather, in terms of what benefits can I get from government.”
Mitt Romney’s wrong on that point and so are you.
But go ahead thinking that and misreading the population. It will help you to lose more elections in the future.
Butch Cassidy (I)
November 7th, 2012
1:46 pm
iBS Aplenty – “there are an increasing number of people in this country who’ve been raised to think, not in terms of opportunity and freedom, but, rather, in terms of what benefits can I get from government.”
Yes, about 5% of the population. Should we have them shot or hanged?
Paul
November 7th, 2012
1:50 pm
bill arp
“cold hard facts..’
Most voters see the economic problems as originating with Bush, not Obama. Therefore, they see Obama as cleaning it up.
Your post is like the person who blames the doctor because an accident victim comes to the ER and during recovery temperature spikes, infection spreads and the victim’s not all better in an hour or so.
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
1:51 pm
cold dead lies…
-Gas prices are double what they were 4 years ago, and will probably keep rising. This helps the middle class.
cold hard facts..
-Gas prices were at RECORD highs in July 2008 and as W’s decimated economy sank demand fell off until he was run out of DC into exile with his tail between his legs…
Your lies are what cost you last night… learn from your grievous failures, if that’s possible.
Paul
November 7th, 2012
1:52 pm
kamchak
“…but, rather, in terms of what benefits can I get from government.”
shhh… I think he’s talking about those major military veteran groups who fought against any increases in their miniscule contributions to their health care -
todd
November 7th, 2012
1:53 pm
There should be a way that the FEC can take Fox News off the air. Do the same with MSNBC and all other corporate owned news stations. You can’t be fair and balanced when you’re all reading from a script using the same key phrases over and over. And you definitely can’t call yourself news when you constantly interject a political agenda using the phrase, “Some people say …….”
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
1:53 pm
“America is over. Welcome to the United States of France.”
You can always vote with your feet…
Glenn Beck
November 7th, 2012
1:53 pm
I’m gonna cry again like the big, fat, blubbering, loud mouth the conservatives expect and deserve.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:54 pm
Paul
shhh… I think he’s talking about those major military veteran groups who fought against any increases in their miniscule contributions to their health care -
He that you are trying to bait, isn’t here now.
Though I did see a couple of lame drive-bys.
Jeff
November 7th, 2012
1:54 pm
Better than the liberal media like out and out lying to your audience
Krystal'sBalls
November 7th, 2012
1:55 pm
Limbaugh deserves ALL the misery he is experiencing right now. May it continue for the remainder of his miserable life. I simply have no use for such despicable people.
Delusion, cogniive dissonance – if you like it, I LOVE it!
“Turn the other cheek” – definitely not my strongsuit.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 7th, 2012
1:55 pm
Prediction: We will be hearing more of the “embrace amnesty” meme from the conned in the next few days….. Rushspam
Rightwing Troll
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
Rush is gonna have to turn back to pills…
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
1:56 pm
On a hunch – went to the Fox News homepage. The word “Benghazi” is not to be found.
Hmmmmm.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
1:57 pm
There should be a way that the FEC can take Fox News off the air.
No, there really shouldn’t.
That power should be in the hands of the consuming public.
But that doesn’t mean I will stop mocking Fox.
bill arp
November 7th, 2012
1:58 pm
all I’m saying is that it costs me, a middle class person who gets up and goes to work every morning, more to fill up my tank, more to pay for my groceries, and my pay went down just in order to keep my job. all in the last 4 years. There’s really no arguing those facts.
and I have a great attitude actually. Like I said, all of these facts HELP the middle class. just ask me.
willie lynch
November 7th, 2012
1:58 pm
JIMBOB
November 7th, 2012
1:29 pm
No one is accusing FOX of being anti government. Fox is anti-truth and anti-investigation, anti-honesty and anti-fairness. There, that about covers it.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
1:58 pm
Mick,
I agree. More a them messican workers. More Indian IT people also. Not crazy about all them Messican women though. Out of all the hispanic groups their women tend to be flabby and ugly. Puerto Rican and Cuban women are quite the hotties though.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
1:58 pm
Doom — “Joe mama, Judging by the rise in gold”
Izzat anything like the rise in real estate a few years ago?
“I think those folks who listened to glen beck are sitting pretty right about now.”
Not really. If they listened to Beck and bought from the places he advertised, they didn’t buy bullion; they bought collectible coins from resellers. What Beck and the resellers didn’t tell the prospective buyers is that unless you’re buying *bullion* coins — and by the IRS definition, *very few* coins meet that standard except for US Government issues — you’ll wind up paying not only tax on the appreciation, but also a Collectible Fee of as much as 35% when you sell them.
Besides, your own pal, Thomas Sowell, advises against direct investment in gold; according to Sowell, gold doesn’t hold its value relative to other investments like stocks and bonds.
If you’re going to invest in gold, either invest in a solid mining company or in an ETF. Don’t invest in physical gold unless you *know* what you’re doing; otherwise, expect to get bitten.
Right Thinker
November 7th, 2012
1:59 pm
Couple of points from the Conservative.
1) The Romney handlers chose to ignore the obvious winning issues, for what reason I have no idea. Obamacare was never a significant issue from Romney, yet the unfavorability remains at over 55%. The House was won by Republicans in 2010 over this very issue. Romney chose to sit back and allow thousands of TV spots to lie and distort who he was, no response left a negative impression. Why did he allow those to go unchallenged? I cannot figure why Romney chose to ignore the Benghazi issue. Why Solyndra, Fisker, and various scandals were not part of the campaign why did Romney fail to make an issue of the increase in the number of White House staffers or the enormous increase in salaries and pay increases during these difficult economic times to White House staffers? All in all, Romney ran a very lame campaign against Obama.
2) Obama enjoys a willing accomplice in the so called Main Steam media. Why was Benghazi
ignored? Where is the reporting on FEMA’s unbelievably poor response to Sandy? Why did the MSM choose to ignore Solyndra, political donations by Solyndra stockholders after bankruptcy, and why have there been no reports on who crafted Obamacare, who received what for supporting the bill, and what the implementation really means to ever person, Medical professionals, Hospitals? The same MSM which had insatiable appetites for Bush, Cheney, Newt, Tom Delay, doesn’t share that appetite for finding the truth about Chris Dodd’s Countrywide loans, who is operating the so called Obama phone contract at over $1 Billion per yr without bid, who benefits from the refusal to allow Keystone to be built.
In any event it is history now. I would recommend to Roger Ailes at Fox that he fire that goofy troll Dick Morris today. The only place “Black Helicopters” author is legit is on the Comedy Channel, or Cartoon Network and only because there is not yet a Blithering Idiot Network. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity have run their course, they’ve been left behind by this Conservative.
Jay
November 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Isn’t it charming to see conservatives openly rooting for economic disaster for the country that they claim to love, and only because they happened to lose an election.
The very thin veneer of patriotism has worn away, exposing the rot beneath.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Democrats have permanently won the Hispanic vote by advocating for Amnesty
That extreme position will not be reconcilable with Republican views
So Democrats are destined to win a lot (all) of elections going forward
The introspection will be a waste of time
Democrats have Republicans cornered
Jm. are you saying the Republican party is akin to a dinosaur and cannot, and will not change period ?
Krystal'sBalls
November 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
@rightwing troll
You can BET the house that Rush NEVER TURNED AWAY FROM the pills. Understanding what I do about the illicit prescription drug market down in West Palm and that whole area in general in S. Florida, it is NO SURPRISE that is where he chose to settle and base. Easy access to the dope.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
The word “Benghazi” is not to be found.’
Yet another fraud perpetrated by Fox and the right-wing echo chamber…and to think some of their faithful actually believed they cared one crap about the lives lost…when all they saw was an opportunity to exploit the issue right before the election. Now that the election is over, so is the issue.
Perfect example for this post…
JIMBOB
November 7th, 2012
2:01 pm
Willie,
There’s no evidence that Fox lies any more than CNN or the NYT, both of which lie out the wazoo.
How do I know? I and my sources do our historiographical research. Read primary source news accounts going back to WWII and you’ll see how badly both Fox and CNN lie today, hoping that you refrain from doing your due diligence.
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
come on stocks !, plunge !! plunge to 1000 points !! plunge stocks !, plunge ! im rooting for an epic crash ! crash !! crash !!
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
Todd,
So much for free speech in your world.
Sarah Palin
November 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
I just found Mexico on the map!
todd
November 7th, 2012
2:02 pm
By the way its silly to say you’re moving to Canada or Europe after you’ve called Canadians and Europeans a bunch of socialists.
Ken
November 7th, 2012
2:03 pm
Obama Optimism
Dow DOWN 2%
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:03 pm
Isn’t it charming to see conservatives openly rooting for economic disaster on the country that they claim to love, and only because they happened to lose an election.
Maybe this is the action Jm is talking about, and the Republican’s really are a dying breed as in dinosaur !
mm
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
Thank you Fox News for pushing the rightwing candidates so far to the right that they made smart voters sick.
Thank you GOP for trying to limit the voting rights of minorities. They came out in droves.
Matti
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
To those hating Georgia and
it’sits people……. why don’t you just leave?Thank you, but no. I’m from here. My home and family are here. I think I’ll stay and fight to end the pervasive corruption and bring us into the 21st Century instead. But I appreciate your thoughtfulness!
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
“Gas prices are double what they were 4 years ago, and will probably keep rising.”
Gas in my area is down 30 cents since last month
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
2:04 pm
Benghazi is a big lie according to the kooks. And no ambassador died there either.
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
how about another hurricane lord ?!! a caterory 10, maybe ?! come on lord !, you can do betterthan that !!!
iBS Aplenty
November 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
…we are not Greece,…
Indeed, we can print (create) money and inflate our way out of our sovereign debts. Alas, the Greeks cannot. Can you say, “Weimar Republic?”
Krystal'sBalls
November 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
@JHM
Agree, bullion the way to go – phys silver though for long term if you are just a “working class” stiff like me.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:05 pm
Obama Optimism
Dow DOWN 2%
Really Ken.. when was it a few years back when the dow tanked 30 % under Bush.not all one day but allot of folks lost a big portion of their retirement.
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
shorter con theme –
“how dumb everyone is for not noticing
how superior and right we are, and if you don’t listen to me the
world will obviously suffer/end/blabla. How dare you not understand
my awesome-ness”
followed by bombastic claims (without commensurate accomplishments)
in a sad attempt to validate their ’small’ ‘inadequate’ self image.
mrsstsimons says its called Cluster B personality disorder.
I think it comes from watching too much Pinky & The Brain cartoons.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
‘I just found Mexico on the map!’
Saw Snowbilly Snooki on Fox last night…looked like she had been eaten by a polar bear and crapped over an ice floe…
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
Obama Optimism
Dow DOWN 2%
Hey Ken. ever hear of a buying opportunity ?
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:06 pm
how about a earthquake right about now !!!
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
2:07 pm
Peter,
We’re not rooting for economic disaster. We’re just pointing out that its inevitable under Obama.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:08 pm
And no ambassador died there either.
Did i read someone here posted he was rapped ?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 7th, 2012
2:09 pm
Benghazi is a big lie according to the kooks. And no ambassador died there either.
From the “when you have nothing, go stupid, go deep stupid” playbook?
“kook” means anyone smarter than Doom?
willie lynch
November 7th, 2012
2:09 pm
bill arp
November 7th, 2012
1:58 pm
What does the President have to do with the price of gas? Much of the food price problem has to do with issues of climate effecting crops. And as for your pay going down, well that didn’t just happen because of President Obama. You can’t stop a freight train on a dime and you can’t turn a ship around like you’re making a U-turn in a car. The problems with your paycheck are related to the policies set in motion years earlier.
Just like the policies put in place by this president have helped with 30+ months of job growth we will continue to reap benefits because unlike his predecessor(whom his own party shunned like a leper) he’s put us on the right track.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
2:09 pm
Did i read someone here posted he was rapped[sic] ?
Yes, that bit of violence porn circulated a couple of times here.
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
hey christians ?!! why bother going to church sunday ?!! just stay home and wait for the wrath thats coming !!
Soldier Mom
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
I have seen some ugly things on this blog and on my facebook. This is what is hurting us – we are all taking sides again. What are the points we can start with on compromise? Everybody list theirs and lets see where it takes us. Be specific, not generalities. I’ll go first:
1. I voted for Obama and I agree we have to reform entitlements – I will agree to raising the retirement age to 67 – 68. I do think this will ease some of the stress on the spending side.
Next . . . .
Alphare
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
One thing I am 100% sure is, if you bet against the conservatives, you have a very good winning percentage.
Example: Rush and Carl all predicted Romney winning Ohio-VA-PA yesterday. The only problem for me yesterday was I could find the stocks to short. Otherwise I’d win big.
Obama Wins, Trump All Mad
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
‘He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!’
‘This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy! America is in ’serious and unprecedented trouble like never before’.
Dang.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Obamas cartoon character Julia is mighty happy today.
Paul
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Kamchak
Nuts.
And without Scout, Recon, USMC and others, might as well stop fishin’, huh?
Mary Elizabeth
November 7th, 2012
2:10 pm
Rightwing media did not level with Republicans, imo, because of a deep cynicism. Even though often the rightwing media knew the truth themselves, they cynically and consciously decided to spin truth for two reasons. They wanted to give today’s far rightwing Republicans what they wanted to hear to keep their base and audience on board with them and happy, but also because they wanted to perpetuate the lies of demagoguery in order to pad the pocketbooks of the coporate billionaire ideologues for whom they worked and of whom they were aligned polticially, as well as to pad their own pocketbooks by following their “marching orders” in doing so. Often feigning a purity of patriotism and love of conservative ideas – mainly to accrue great wealth for oneself and one’s family – can create a deeply submerged cynicism in one’s soul, that – masked well – some never see, including the one who is selling the propaganda not only to others but to him/herself.
Conservatives cannot simply pull in constituencies, such as the Latino vote, by voicing a more inclusive mantra. Instead, they will have to fundamentally change, from within, to believe authentically in a vision of all humanity which sees others in egalitarian terms, rather than in hierarchial terms. Monied people often fail to see others through egalitarian eyes, although they can mask their hierarchial vision of others through appearances, such as supporting humanitarian works of some limited selection.
Some have pondered, over the years since the Civil Rights Movement, why African-Americans have voted for present day Democrats en masse, seemingly becoming only tools to serve that political party’s interests without awareness. I believe to see African-Amaerican in this light because they have voted in large voting blocs for Democrats is wrongheaded thinking. Those who think that African-Americans have been used by Democrats, instead of making up their own minds, with insight, demonstrate a basic disrespect for the intelligence and awareness of African-Americans. I believe that African-Americans, like women, have a special radar – having been suppressed for decades – as to who authentically sees them and their capabilities and sensibilities with egalitarian eyes and who does not – over and beyond verbal arguments put forth to gain their support. I believe that African-American, like women, have grativated toward the present day Democratic Party because of how Democrats perceive them.
For example, when Gov. Romney changed his political approach toward a more moderate one from a hardline conservative one, in the presidential election, he gathered more support overall, but he never really gained the full support of women, or the full support of African Americans, because these two groups have developed a special emotional radar, if you will, which could see beneath his tactical change by his words, alone. These two groups knew how deeply the 47% remark made by Gov. Romney in private resonated in his heart and soul,, beyond what he said. They could see that he lacked the authentic internal vision to see them as equals, without any condescension in his heart – and that he lacked the vision, in other words, of the true egalitarian who sees all human beings as equals (regardless of the cards in life that each human being might be given to play) and regardless of how kind a man he might be with his own loved ones. In other words, they saw that Mitt Romney lacked a deeply human vision of, and understanding for, all humanity that Barack Obama contains in his heart and soul. And they understood that beyond words.
This is a subtle awareness and a subtle change of consciousness that Republicans will have to come to understand in their hearts as well as in their minds, and that takes longer to understand than a “sensitivity training” session. It requires a change of how one sees the world and those who inhabit it.
Don't Forget - Obama is a two term president.
November 7th, 2012
2:11 pm
Jay
November 7th, 2012
2:00 pm
Isn’t it charming to see conservatives openly rooting for economic disaster on the country that they claim to love, and only because they happened to lose an election.
It’s just like it was 4 years ago. They feel they “need to destroy the country in order to save it”. It’s insane but that’s how they seem to feel. They seek a country where there’s no questioning of their principles or how they apply them or the facts that govern the times. We’ve had declining wages for something like 15 years but only the past 4 matter to them. And when a working family can’t put food on the table, clothes on the back and a roof over the head much less healthcare when you get sick they view them as moochers with wealth envy. Well, like Barak said “proceed governor”.
Reality
November 7th, 2012
2:11 pm
After the Ohio race was called by all, I changed channels to watch FOX news. How entertaining! Some were eating crow so fast they had to take TUMS. Others were still sticking to their “guns” and continuing their ditto-head ways. It was so very sad to hear them continue to bash OUR President and the winner of the election – sore losers!
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
“The very thin veneer of patriotism has worn away, exposing
the rot beneath.”
one of my favorite quotes of yours, right after –
“Character outs Itself”
gm
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
Scum bag Rush Limbaugh is blasting the Obama voters calling them free loaders for voting for him, this high school drop out is the reason conservatives white males are not taking serious by the rest of the country.
Sean Hannity, Rush, Neal B. are still the angry white males living in 1959 memo to these idiots leave it to beaver times are not returning, and once again the conservatives gomers in Georgia are always on the wrong side of history.
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
that anti-christ in dc looks good, doesnt he ?!
Regnad Kcin
November 7th, 2012
2:12 pm
Actually gold’s down today, and oil’s at around $85. Expect gas prices to drop a bit more!
Kujohn
November 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
Romney won the old confederacy. That tells you all you need too know about the republican party When you side with a loser you lose
Mick
November 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
doom
I think jessica alba is mexican/dutch…on the bright side maybe your side of kookballs in the house will get the message and……compromise! I know it’s a dirty word and the boehner can’t even utter it, but that is really what the market is looking for…
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
From my sister today…..
So, I’m wasting in the day in New London Superior Court..jury duty. Ate at a local restaurant but had a great salad….bacon, beets, Gorgonzola, chopped walnuts, sliced granny smith apple over mixed greens with a apple cider vinaigrette dressing….yummy!
Note to self…….. Not eating CROW today !
Mike
November 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
How is the stock market today? Anybody Know?
Grasshopper
November 7th, 2012
2:13 pm
You and your liberal brethren are under the assumption that all conservatives eat, sleep and breathe Talk Radio and Fox News talking points 24-7; many of us do not.
But what we do feel as a result of last nights election and today’s crowing by all the liberal ‘Me Too’ers’ is profound sadness at the path that our country is taking and even more profound sadness at the glee that the winners feel. There is no joy in someone else bottle-feeding you or spinning you so your thoughts are not your own – on either side.
The destruction of the values, both moral and fiscal, of this country is hard for many to take. Some could care less.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
2:14 pm
How is the stock market today? Anybody Know?
YUP……. Buying opportunity !!!!!!
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:14 pm
come on stocks !!! plunge !!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
Wonder if Cain, Gingrich, Bachmann, et al are thinking I COULDA WON THIS THING!
Palin definitely is
Heh, heh, heh.
Morality?
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
And speaking of betrayal: OBAMA’S SOCIALIST AGENDA CONTINUES…… winners DEM PARTY LOYALISTS. LABOR UNIONS, LAWYERS, VLAD PUTIN, IRAN, SEEKERS OF CONTINUOUS HANDOUTS (temporarily)….. losers: DEMOCRACY, U.S. ECONOMY and REDUCTION OF THE FED DEBT, OUR YOUTH’S FUTURE, SENIORS DEPENDING ON SOCIAL SECURITY, those LOYAL TO THE FUTURE OF THE USA OVER PARTY LOYALTY ….. gloat while you can as the FISCAL CLIFF is near and you are about to follow your savior OBAMA/PELOSI like brain dead zombie lemmings in to the abyss. I won’t be saying I told you so but I told you so.
Paul
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
bill arp
“and I have a great attitude actually. ”
That is commendable. Many have experienced pay cuts and the other things you’ve mentioned. But they’ve also seen the end of mass layoffs, some hiring, housing prices stabilized and the like.
It takes longer to recover from major wounds than it does from a cold. But I think things are slowly, little by little, getting better.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
KUTGF — “From the “when you have nothing, go stupid, go deep stupid” playbook?”
Doom likes to make things up and then pretend that others actually said the things he makes up. And if he makes up something for *you* and you don’t go along with his delusion, he’ll call you a liar.
Sewer Rat Democrats
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
@ Azzhole HusseinMama……….The pitiful part is because of Osama Hussein Obama’s (All these Muslims look alike) Affordable Health Care, I’ve got to fire 174 people and put another 112 on part time pay or I lose the business that I spent 22 years building. 22 years battling the fukn government every step of the way. Nice Christmas present for these employees, right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 7th, 2012
2:15 pm
“Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly proffered a similar comment Tuesday night when he was asked why the race was so tight between Obama and the Republican nominee, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
“Because it’s a changing country. The demographics are changing,” O’Reilly said. “It’s not a traditional America anymore. And there are 50 percent of the voting public who want STUFF. They want THINGS. And who is going to give them things? President Obama. He knows it and he ran on it. Whereby 20 years ago, President Obama would have been roundly defeated by an establishment candidate like Mitt Romney. … The voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them, and they want STUFF. … People feel that they are entitled to things, and which candidate between the two is going to give them things.”
WND
Gale
November 7th, 2012
2:16 pm
If we want the DOW to climb, we need to push Congress to reach a compromise on the budget instead of sticking to the no compromise positions of past years. One good move, IMO, would be to pass a rule that no amendment not directly connected to a bill may be added. Those are just bargaining chips and we all know it.. If a bill is bad, it does not pass. Pare it down to something most can agree on. Why is this so hard?
Democrats Are Devils
November 7th, 2012
2:16 pm
a million pink slips handed out today !