Boehner: ‘We’re willing to accept new revenue’

New revenue will not tame the “soaring debt” Jay. Maybe a little curb on the spending like we all have to do in our own households?

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It’s kind of that whole Plan A plan B thing.

Plan A. Block every attempt by the President to improve the economy in the hopes of making him a one term POTUS.

Plan B. If Plan A fails, work with the President so that the GOP is not locked out of the Whitehouse until 2024.

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T. Maddox — “New revenue will not tame the “soaring debt” Jay. Maybe a little curb on the spending like we all have to do in our own households?”

How about some of both? It’d be like cutting costs *and* someone in the family taking a second job.

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Will Boehner be able to stand up to Rush and Fox? For the good of the country, let’s hope so.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Boehner didn’t cry when Romney lost. Just think how a GOP presidential win would have lifted his political clout! Even if he isn’t sincere, he is being forced to at least mouth the rhetoric.

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It sounds good, but with all the blatant and outrageous lies they’ve been telling for the last 4 years, they are not to be trusted.

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“And do it quick, before Norquist calls his office.”

Our President won the tax argument. The deal is already done from the first term and now they vote.

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How about a military only as big as the next ten nations combined?

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Tom, Paul, and Eric are currently in their top-secret tree house, conspiring as to how they’re going to throw little Johnny out of their He-Man Woman-Haters club, hopefully breaking a few of his bones on the way down. Tom, Paul, and Eric don’t like to be told which kids they have to be nice to. Somebody has to keep the sacred squirrel skull safe in that tree house, away from nerdy smart kids and — yuck! –stupid girls.

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Compromise is a two way street.

Should be interesting to see how well both sides behave now that Obama doesn’t have to be in campaign mode for the next 4 years.

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I hope J-Bo and the Tea Party Clowns can stop watching Fox News long enough to write and pass some bills President Barack Hussein Obama can sign into law. Or do they still have to check in with Grover Norquist first ????

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I’d say Boehner blinked…..

BUT

The rest of austerity posse is probably only winkin’ and noddin’.

I don’t think the Speaker of the House is strong enough to herd all the Repuli-cats in that direction, but it will be fun to watch.

Still doing the happy dance….

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“Tom, Paul, and Eric are currently in their top-secret tree house,”

Little Pauly Ryan wants to know if he can come up and play.

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We need revenue right now, NOT decreased spending. Decreased spending has kept the pain of the Bush recession going. Tax the 1% who avoid paying taxes, and continue the tax breaks for the middle class. More households who have money in their pockets to spend makes everyone richer–their spending means revenue for businesses, who then have to hire workers, who then have more money in their pockets to spend. Businesses do NOT need more tax breaks. Middle class people do.

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Boehner wants to be re-elected to the position of Speaker of the House.
He also realizes the handwriteing is on the wall, since, before today, he would have died and gone to hell before saying “we’re willing to accept new revenue”.

It’s going to be up to the Republican House whether to stick to the old, losing ways or face up to the political facts of life and begin moving the Party away from the extreme right.

I’m guessing it’s going to be an ugly free for all between Republicans who want the Party to have a real chance in 2016 and diehard fundamentalist Tea Party members who will never compromise.

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Is it just me, or did I notice that there seems to be a gargantuan fall off in con posts today?

As for Jay’s observation downstairs, Sunspot Dave R is not amused!

And Eric Pinocchio Cantor?

Please…

I suspect that it is going to take the cons getting walloped again three out of four elections before their empty BS turns into demonstrable action…

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“drudgey also said this was Obama’s last campaign.”

Coming soon to Drudge….”Obama is going to suspend the Constitution and run for a third term.”

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Jam,

There has been a big fall off in con posts because the libs can’t play nice. They are too busy doing their “happy dance” and being mean.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Doe8VNlKaA

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“I hope President Obama responds to this election by making
an effort to work with Republicans.” (E Cantor – R- brickthrower)

If you don’t read the writing con-boy, you’ll be making an effort
to work with the new 2014 Speaker, Nancy Pelosi.

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I hope that Speaker Boehner is sincere in his pledge to find ways to get past the divide on finding common ground to move the country forward. His comments last night did not give me much hope, but this change from last evening leaves a glimmer of hope. Regardless, the President needs to get specific on his proposals if the Republican House won’t budge on compromise; the President and the Senate need to find a budget bill to attach the new proposal to and send it back to the House for an up or down vote or to send it to conference committee. I am for a ‘Grand Bargain’ rather than a stop gap due to the fact that in six months, the partisans will be plotting the next election cycle. The deal needs to be made soon and it needs to be big and broad. Just my two cents.

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Let’s wait and see if Colorado can figure out a good tax scheme for their latest legal product. I bet Mr. Speaker will start cheerleading for spliffs.

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J. Konop — “We should eliminate all special tax breaks and lower the rates. We should replace payroll tax with a national sales tax.”

Isn’t revenue derived from sales taxes notoriously volatile and subject to large year-to-year fluctuations?

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Coming soon to Drudge….”Obama is going to suspend the Constitution and run for a third term.”

Initially, I chuckled and dismissed it as not-to-be-taken-seriously humor.

However….

SAVAGE: ‘Our society is being turned into a sort of prison camp’…

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S. Truths — “The liberals today have the sarcasm dial cranked up pretty high today. Fangs and venom.”

We’re always hearing about how rough n’ tough conservatives are, so quit complaining, Buttercup.

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I hope Bronco Bamma burst the bubble. Let’s see if they learn anything and what the underwater Walrus is going to complain about. They may just come back crazier than Michelle Bachman in another bubble that is even harder to penetrate ans it’s never their fault.

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JamVet — “As for Jay’s observation downstairs, Sunspot Dave R is not amused!”

Awww, Cryberius is upset? Hoodathunk it?

I got him to admit that he agreed with poll-weighting last summer, so he was probably all over the ZOMG SKEWED POLLS thing up until this morning. I imagine it’ll take him a couple of geologic ages to get over the butthurt.

Dave-o can just cry me a river.

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The Dow down 312??? That’s just their way of celebrating the next 4 years of Obama.

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THULSA

I’ll give you your credit for showing up tonight…takes a certain amount of cajones…

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 7th, 2012
5:01 pm
The march toward the “United States of Greece” will continue

The O man do love burying our children and grandchildren with debt he do.

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poor 401ks !!

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Getting to this just a tad late, but “But the ice might be breaking”

Talk is cheap. We’ll find out when the votes are counted.

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Joe,

…………Isn’t revenue derived from sales taxes notoriously volatile and subject to large year-to-year fluctuations?…..

A very good question! That is one of the reasons that I would not have it as a high percentage of gross sales and use a hybrid concept with a lower income tax. Also income tax and payroll tax have the same issue when wages grow less than inflation and or we are facing an high unemployment rate ie the last few years……… It we have 2 sources over 1 source we should have less volatile behavior. Finally the plan focuses on job creation and increasing consumption, which in general should help drive up wages up, that would create more revenue.

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Jam,

Agreed, I just hope the 2 sides can reach some compromise and get some important work done.

Time goes by too fast and Life is too short.

Cheers.

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JHM

Nope. The first was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Latham_Owen

and the second was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Curtis

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Democrats Are Devils, welcome to the blog.

(LOL at the Morphin’ Mitt crowd!)

The DJIA will likely go shooting up tomorrow, so this may be a great chance for you heavy hitters to make back those millions you wagered (at fantastic odds, no less!) on The Massachusetts Mormon!

Doomy, no worries, we survived the Bush Reign of Error, we’ll make it through the Uppity Muslim!

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Doom — “I shoulda put in my kook disclaimer for you”

Shoulda but didna.

“seeing as how Chief Spreading Bull is not a real Native American to begin with”

Evidence?

“which makes the statement something of a joke.”

Doom’s All-Purpose Excuse (Patent Pending)

“I see it sailed right on over your head. Again. Geez.”

If you didn’t get called on it, you’d just continue to claim it as fact, Doom.

You should thank me. I’m doing a public service by educating you. Clearly, those Bama public schools done dropped the ball with you they did.

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josef — “The first was”

“and the second was”

Well spotted. I stand corrected.

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Joe, Doom loves his lies just like he love to make claims about what others say and then whine when he is called on it. But its all the funnier when he plays the “just kidding” card.

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Extra verb in line 3

Meh

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you of all people hereabouts should know better than to stoop to that type of race-baiting…

josef, you have a much higher perception of this particular posters credibility, honesty and ability than most. I fear you are in for a real let down.

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keep up the sorry fight,

Well if you’re stupid enough to think that I regard Elizabeth Warren as a real Native American then what can I say? You really are that stupid. Its my mistake though for thinking that you or JHM would pick up on the idea that its a joke to consider chief Spreading Bull a real Native American. I’ll try to remember to always add the kook disclaimer for sarcasm, being facetious, joking, etc. since saracasm and dry humor often goes right over your little noggin it do.

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Jay

Unless Rep. Boehner can work a miracle, he’s blowing smoke up the collective asses of Americans all over.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/11/01/grover-norquist-even-if-obama-is-reelected-taxes-arent-going-up/

Grover Norquist is the president for Americans for Tax Reform. He’s led the conservative push against accepting any tax increases whatsoever, convincing the vast majority of Congressional Republicans — and current candidates for office — to sign his anti-tax pledge. We talked on Wednesday afternoon about his goals and predictions for what will happen right after the election as Congress deals with the fiscal cliff. Here is a transcript of our conversation, lightly edited for length and clarity….

GN: No, because Republicans will oppose allowing any tax cuts to expire or not be restored after Jan 1. Dems will fear economic slowdown from tax cuts…just as they did two years ago.

Sir Grover has spoken, and from the sound of it, Boehner didn’t meet with his policy advisor before making that speech. Grover will be mad, and Republicans fear an angry Grover.

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Doom — “Its my mistake though for thinking that you or JHM would pick up on the idea that its a joke to consider chief Spreading Bull a real Native American.”

I’m *sure* that both you and Scott Brown were ‘just joking.’

“I’ll try to remember to always add the kook disclaimer for sarcasm, being facetious, joking, etc. since saracasm and dry humor often goes right over your little noggin it do.”

It wouldn’t be the first time you’d promised to do that, only to fail to follow through on it.

I’m out; have a pleasant evening.

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The GOP’s War on Women Full Scale Legislative Assault on Women’s Rights was damn expensive.

Women made up 53% of the voters and the GOP lost them by an 11% margin! (55 – 44)

Ouch….

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Grover Norquist LOST the election for the Republicans. 2014 will be the DREAM election, when every Republican will have opposition that supports the Dream Act and implementing the President’s tax proposals for those making over $250,000. The House party will be over in 2014. In 2016, the next President will be bilingual (yep! Jeb could be).

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amVet

November 7th, 2012
4:43 pm

Is it just me, or did I notice that there seems to be a gargantuan fall off in con posts today?
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SPOT ON!!!

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GOOD FIGHT

Not at all…Thulsa has his own point of relation to this question and knows exactly what comes from race-mongering and “papers, please…” at a much more recent outplay of genocide..

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Oh, well. 4 more years of the worst President we ever had. I guess Jefferson’s prediction has finally come to fruition when he said (paraphrasing) that Democracy will work fine until the electorate realize that they can vote themselves other people’s money. So I guess Obama and all his supporters will have a nice party until the whole country falls down like a house of cards. In 40 years, this country will be unrecognizable. To be honest, today’s America is so different from the way things were 50 years ago, that it is pitiful. In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards. I really think the horse is out of the barn now. It might be too late.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3pX_shcyU

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In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country…

Yep, just ask Joseph McCarthy.

And the Negroes…

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“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”

What was the tax rate back then?

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ZamVet

…and the gays
…and the Indians
…and the women
…and the Hillibillies
…and the Latinos
well, you get the point…

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Obama even won Ryans district in WI.

Maybe he will keep his vote getting machine in place for the Congressional elections

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“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”

Btw, lighten up, go to the state of Washington, light one up and get yourself gay married.

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In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.

Union representation in the work force was 35%
Full benefits provided for employees.

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With any luck there might be enough lame duck republicans heading out the door to vote for what is best for the country and not how Boehner/Cantor tell them to vote.

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Drones and Black-sites ain’t cheap.
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And obama likes him some drones and black-sites.
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lol

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In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.

Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.

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NoCom

I’m thinking that I should have gotten an absentee ballot from home for old time’s sake.

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“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”

And higher tax rates.

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Brosephus™

November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm

In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.

Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.
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WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.
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sheeesh

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ahhh, the good old days…

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“The march toward the “United States of Greece” will continue……”
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…. to be thwarted by President Obama and the Senate Democrats, as Republicans desperately try to institute an economically destructive austerity on the backs of the middle class and the poor.
(Finished it for you.)

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Doggone/GA: “Romney is to blame. Not Paul Ryan and not Grover Norquist. Romney.”

It’s not my place to point fingers (and as long as he goes away, I don’t really care), but I have to wonder what the Republicans were thinking. A year ago, none of them could stand this guy. Heck, Billy Graham didn’t even take him off the cult list until last month! He was so disliked that they entertained an passel of “you gotta be kidding me!” candidates, until each, one by one, self-deported from the race by doing or saying something utterly absurd. Romney was the nominee because he was the last one standing, probably because he (a) doesn’t drink, (b) doesn’t discuss the particulars of his religion, and (c) has more money than Davey Crockett. Ever criticized as a flip-flopper, it was this chameleon ability to say exactly what the current audience wanted to hear that kept his candidacy alive.

If I were a devoted Republican today, I’d be upset with those who hijacked my party so far into right field that running a solid, old-school, Eisenhower-type candidate is no longer an option. (But I’m not so…. YAYYYY! )

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WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.

Nope, simply someone who knows history and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers. You would probably know these things if you joined reality and left your little “world” behind.

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JAY

The problem is going to be the offset of cuts…particularly if DEMs want to start increased taxes pronto by cuts 10 years down the road…that should be a non-starter for GOP and I couldn’t agree more…any position that puts cuts many years down the road is offensive to taxpayers..or should be..

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…and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers.

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The scary thing to any Repub. who works with the Dems to solve the deficit crisis is that, the next time he/she is in a primary back home, the Tea Partiers will run someone to their right. Since so few people vote in these primaries, the hard-core, social conservatives dominate the voting. What is it they say about all it takes for evil to triumph?

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Shorter Eric Cantor (from Byte-me’s 4:34)- “We promise to compromise by agreeing to let Obama do everything our way.”

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Any tea party rallies today?

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BRO

I bet you $1 that Ron Paul is a brief’s man…”sniffing the crotch.” classic

Kudos…I have no clue what that dude was saying…but it is interesting to consider that dixie democrats had something to do with the invention of the Klan..how things have changed..

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I understand a set of 4 drones plus support to kill costs about $130 million…

If you use them domestically to attack wedding parties, the costs are much less because you don’t need that much support.

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New revenue, improved health costs, and new economies like those that will emerge from smart strategies like the Preaidents fuel standards initiatives. This is the way back. Education.
Thomas Friedman has written some good books on how to produce our way back from the cliff.
Yes, we’ll have to change Medicare and maybe social security but not drastically.
This country is the birthplace of new ideas. When the formerly robust republican party moves back from being the party of no and embraces the possibilities, we’ll do fine.

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Brosephus™

November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm

WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.

Nope, simply someone who knows history and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers. You would probably know these things if you joined reality and left your little “world” behind.
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I know history too.
Somehow I missed the part about whiteys killing black dudes with impunity and pride in the 50’s and 60’s.
i’ll try to refresh myself.
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I do wonder about the death rate of Blacks in Chicago on a typical saturday night though ..or the death rates of blacks in federal prisons on any given day………..in this……..Obamanation……….in 2012.
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I will assure you…………………they good do worse……than the bad ole days.

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Stevie Ray – you make a good point. Almost every cut in spending will be fought by those who benefit from the spending. Kraft came out against cuts in food stamps. I’m sure Lockheed doesn’t want cuts in the production of fighter aircraft. It’s going to take some guys with chutzpuh to pull the trigger on cuts – maybe more than pulling the trigger on increasing some taxes.

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Dow dipped 300 plus today. Probably Bush’s fault.

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Bro…………I don’t “have it in for you”.
I only call out nonsense.
Like your following——-

“Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.”
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It serves no purpose and only inflames racial animosity.
You should leave that to your boss.
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Good night.

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Tundra

Here in the Pittsburgh area there were several TPers running against incumbant Democrats.

Each and every one got their ass handed to them LOL

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Why can’t Lockheed Martin build something we NEED? How about customized planes for those who fight wild fires? How about police helicopters? I’m all for employing smart, capable people. Let’s just pay them for something we need, not stuff we don’t use.

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I am not seeing much patriotism from the wingnuts today.

Country first…right?

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Somehow I missed the part about whiteys killing black dudes with impunity and pride in the 50’s and 60’s.
i’ll try to refresh myself.

Lemme help you out a bit…

http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/62/the-civil-rights-movement-in-mississippi-on-violence-and-nonviolence

In 1955, Reverend George Lee, vice president of the Regional Council of Negro Leadership and NAACP worker, was shot in the face and killed for urging blacks in the Mississippi Delta to vote. Although eyewitnesses saw a carload of whites drive by and shoot into Lee’s automobile, the authorities failed to charge anyone. Governor Hugh White refused requests to send investigators to Belzoni, Mississippi, where the murder occurred.

NAACP State Director Medgar Evers was gunned down in 1963 in his Jackson driveway by rifle-wielding white Citizens Council member Byron De La Beckwith from Greenwood, Mississippi.

Do you recall James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner? What about Emmitt Till?

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/282379

There’s another article to help you out.

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With our country full of the type if people who voted for Obama I don’t want to live here any longer and I have NO respect for Obama supporters and hope I never have to associate with any of them.I have nothing in common with them.

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“With our country full of the type if people who voted for Obama I don’t want to live here any longer ”

Here’s your hat…don’t linger

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THULSA

That is the same blood quantum as the current Chief Executive of the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee are not now, nor have they ever been, self-defined in terms of blood quantum. You can be as blonde and blue-eyed as a Sveeed or black as the ace of spades and still be Cherokee. It’s way too complicated to go into here with the limited space and forum. There is Cherokee Nation citizenship, determined by a Dawes Roll ancestor, and there is the Cherokee people, determined by identity with the culture. Neither is blood quantum. There are full bloods who are not citizens. There are those with far less quantum than your 1/32 who speak the language with native fluency and are recognized for their contributions to the continuance of the cultural identity and heritage.

And what do you mean by “minority status?” Define that for me, and I may be able to better answer your question.

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saywhat? don’t forget reparations

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NoCom

I don’t remember who it was. As long as they have the proper paperwork, traveling with firearms isn’t a problem leaving. If he doesn’t declare them upon arrival in whatever country he lands, he’ll probably end up crying to the State Dept to come bail his ass out.

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saywhat?

When do we get to start confiscating guns and building concentration camps for the conservatives? Didn’t they insist Obama was waiting for his second term to follow through with these evil plans? If it doesn’t start by the end of January, I’m gonna be pissed.

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More like concentration daycares the way they whine

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Don Abernathy

“I have nothing in common with them.”

For which, no doubt, the homo sapiens are somewhat grateful.

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Lord ain’t from round these parts.

“Country first…right?”

No.

God, family, country. In that order.

But yes, excluding those first 2 items if one doesn’t understand counting, yes country comes first.

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“I will assure you…………………they good do worse……than the bad ole days.”

Hopefully this is a typo or poor spelling/phrasing. Otherwise, go back to the rally.

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“When do we get to start confiscating guns”

Good luck with that. There are more of us with guns than you. And we know how to use them.

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nice ‘dead pig’ reference, josef. Zoooom

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…I don’t want to live here any longer…

Don, I’ve heard that Teheran is beautiful this time of year!

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I see Ole Miss is keeping up their image. I guess they can drop the Black Bears and go back to being Rebels now.

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Don

There are good jobs overseas available

Check them out

They can be hard to get though

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Republicans had always believed that the way to good government was to:

1 Give tax cuts to the rich.

2 Give more welfare to corporations.

3 Take welfare and healthcare from the poor.

4 Cut our way to prosperity.

5. Blame the snafus on blacks, Mexicans, gays, lesbians and Moslems

Clearly those philosophies are dead, and maybe the whole Republican thing is toast.

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Okay, a family story…

My brother had an electrical engineering firm. The firm had a fairly good size number of employees. They were bidding on a nice little contract in Indian country. They were required to have x number of Indian employees. My sister in law was the personnel director. She was pulling her hair out trying to meet the criteria. She was talking to her Mama in Tulsa and was bewailing the fact that all she needed was one more. Her Mama says, “well, have you put yourself down?” MA, who if you asked her would have said she was Cherokee, but that would have been about it. She told her Mama that she couldn’t because it required a CDIB card. Her Mama laughed, “silly, you’ve got one! Call such and such and get your copy of it.” See, MA had grown up in California, far removed from the rez and had never given it that much thought and had always considered Mama’s “Indian thing” somewhat archaic…and yet, is she an Indian…well, according to the White and Black Man’s definition, yep.

Their own kids? One more or less went back to the rez and the other not so much identified though, if you just looked at her, she would “pass” for a full blood. They both have CDIB cards, but how “Indian” are they…?

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Doggone,

You got proof that we don’t. Cause judging from the frequent posts in the past from liberals about gun loving right wing nuts I think its a fair statement that we have more. Or are those mostly liberals buying up all those weapons at those gun and knife shows? And is it the left or right wing who is very pro 2nd amendment? I think we both know the answers to these questions.

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of all the things for a Gooper to be butthurt about, I got to hand it to Doomy for finding the silliest imaginable.

the Indian thing? mein Gott, that fixation is probably what lost that Senate seat. her opponent went from being well liked to coming off like some racist prick.

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sink

I wonder how we ever survived the vaunted 50’s when the tax rate on the rich was more than double what it is now. You and your ilk need to stop walking behind them and picking up their poop – it stinks…

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The congress is more blue today, take the hint GOP.

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josef,

Here’s the thing. I would have no problem if Warren claimed ancestry if she actually lived it or actively acknowledged her ancestry with involvment. I see no evidence of this although you say she has been involved in Indian “things”. According to what I’ve read I see zero involvement in Indian “things” and the woman won’t even publicly answer stories about her ancestry. At that point she has no credibility with me. And as I posted her credibility also seems to be lacking with a number of Native Americans. This also is an interesting read on her.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/senate/2012/09/15/elizabeth-warren-family-has-mixed-memories-about-heritage/cPMflfaOlndM1jFbimJ4tM/story.html

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Thulsa

Well if you own any guns, as I do, I would hope you know how to use them.

That was a funny post.

“and we know how to use them”.

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12 more years

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Thulsa

Okay, take the word of one of your “real” Indians. Whenever Unmentionable is asked if he does “Indian (or more often ‘Native American’) things” his answer is, “no. I do things Indian.” Why should she have to answer questions about her ancestry? Do you? And you know what I mean by that.

And since He ne ha is here, are you going to question his “Indianess” because he’s a successful Sea Island country club snob?

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Well, if you start confiscating guns, then the Hispanics and African Americans can’t shoot each other up anymore?

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and another thing. Suppressing the vote, making it generally more of a pain in the ass for your constituents to vote, hitching your wagon to that whole screw-democracy thing… how’d that work out for ya?

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“Here’s the thing. I would have no problem if Warren claimed ancestry if she actually lived it or actively acknowledged her ancestry with involvment”

Here’s the thing, thulsa. Many of us have some Native American ancestry and either don’t know it or don’t achknowledge it. I do, some number of generations back. I don’t actively involve with it, but it’s there. Nothing wrong with claiming it or not. I also have an ancestor who owned slaves, but I sure don’t actively identify with that fact. Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress, but do all the descendants claim him? It’s up to the individual, and I suspect if most of us did some research, we’d find quite a multi-cultural mix.

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“Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress”

Here’s some information you might find interesting. His mistress was not “African” – she was, at most, half-black. She was the half-sister of Jefferson’s dead wife. They had the same father.

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RF

How ’bout last night, eh! I been as Maya Angelou would say, “singing and swinging and making merry like Christmas!”

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“Could it be that the reason Repubs feel so much more strongly about gun ownership is because they are more likely to own one?”

Or could it be because they are stupid enough to tell an anonymous pollster that they do? Personally, I prefer the uncertainty that not telling projects.

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Oscar – you owe me a coke! (Except I prefer Mountain Dew)

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Some on the right claimed Obama was coming to take guns away when he thrashed McCain in 08.

Did anyone get their guns taken away? I remember the NRA selling that story and all it did was drive up the price of guns and ammo. The NRA along with the gun industry laughed at the gullible all the way to the bank.

I expect nothing less this time. Prices will probably run up in the short term, but will level off and come back down.

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So, florida still doesn’t know who won? Pathetic and all of this mess will be laid at the feet of rick “the disaster” scott, the governor only a mother could love, well that’s not for sure either…

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I do not believe a word Obama says, again revenue is not the problem. It will be interesting as we move forward (no pun intended)and perhaps even the MSM will grow weary of covering for him now that the election is over; stranger things could happen in our new 50-50 society…..

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“this mess will be laid at the feet of rick “the disaster” scott, the governor only a mother could love”

And I suspect the voters will remember come his next election. I’d lay bets on his getting trounced when the time comes.

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“Remind me why I owe you a Coke”

7:26 Here’s some information you might find interesting. His mistress was not “African” – she was, at most, half-black. She was the half-sister of Jefferson’s dead wife. They had the same father.

7:27 “What is not often stated or know is that Jefferson’s wife and his mistress were half sisters. They had the same father. I’ve always found that interesting”

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“Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress, but do all the descendants claim him?”

Not quite sir. There are a couple of historians who believe those children were fathered by Jefferson’s brother who had done quite a bit of philandering with the slave girls and was known to take advantage of them. Its an interesting controversy but we don’t know for sure. The timeline also indicates that Jefferson was out town on business/govt affairs when at least one or more of the kids was fathered.Its interesting stuff.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/true/primer.html

Jeffersons Could Have Been the Father of Eston.
This DNA study testing the Y chromosome found that there was a link to “some” Jefferson, but not necessarily Thomas, having been the father of Eston, Sally Heming’s youngest son. These DNA tests indicated that any one of 8 Jeffersons could have been the father of Eston and there was nothing to indicate it was Thomas. The 8 possibilities identified by the DNA tests are Thomas, Randolph (Jefferson’s brother), Randolph’s 5 sons, and a cousin George and in 5 of Randolph’s sons, who were in their teens or 20s when Sally Hemings was having children. Since no one has ever denied that it was likely that “some” Jefferson fathered at least one of Sally Heming’s children, these recent DNA tests only provide more certainty to what we already knew or suspected. Since the only available DNA evidence comes from direct male lineal descendants of persons who have descended from a common male line with Thomas Jefferson (father, grandfather, etc.), the test is inherently nonspecific. The same Y chromosome existed in Mr. Jefferson’s brother Randolph, who lived 20 miles from Monticello, and in 5 of Randolph’s sons, who were in their teens or 20s when Sally Hemings was having children.

New Woodson DNA Tests.
DNA tests performed on 1 Eston line came up positive, but tests performed originally on 5 Woodson lines in November 1998 came up negative, as did a recent DNA test on a 6th line performed in March 2000. These results should demonstrate beyond any reasonable doubt that Thomas Jefferson was not the father of Tom Woodson. The Woodson DNA tests are important because if Tom Woodson is Sally Heming’s Paris-conceived son and could be shown to have Jefferson DNA, it would then be almost certain that Thomas Jefferson was his father, since Thomas was the only Jefferson in Paris at the time who could have impregnated Sally. Last week the Thomas C. Woodson Family Association declined to attend The Monticello Association’s Annual Business Meeting to be held on Sunday, May 7. The Woodson Family Association’s President, Robert Golden, stated that the care of the Jefferson family cemetery and possible burial there “is not of interest to the Woodson Family Association itself but might be of interest only to specific individuals within the Woodson family.”

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“He calls me “a woo-woo Jew!””

Just tell him that’s only when he works the spirit-stick the right way….;-).

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“Or could it be because they are stupid enough to tell an anonymous pollster that they do? Personally, I prefer the uncertainty that not telling projects”

Okay. So polls don’t mean anything. Just like those polls that showed Obama caught up and held an ever so slight lead were inaccurate.

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josef

It is comical how serious they are when they make their “jewish” assessments…………. They really believe it or put on a good show.

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Did you see my post earlier about the “In and Out of the Closet” dinner?

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You mean Sally was two-timing Thomas. Say it ain’t so.

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“Just like those polls that showed Obama caught up and held an ever so slight lead were inaccurate”

And here all this time I thought they were over-weighted with Democrats.

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Doggone

That was the best excuse of them all. Many on the right thought every major pollser, including Rasmussen who used to do polling for Bush, were all incorrect.

That is called desperation and gullibility.

Them damn liberals. They run all the polls and they are for Obama.

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BOTH: isn’t Dick Morris and his “over-weighted” thing just toooooo funny? That from a man with no neck.

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Good Evening Suck

As I said, we live in a 50-50 nation; I saw the vote did you? I just choose to not have my head stuck in my a$$; it tends to impair your viewpoint. You should pull it out every now and then as it might provide you some clarity

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How can you tell a liberal on the blog without reading the post? They’re the ones with the smiley faces..

, etc., etc.

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RF

Why would anyone follow Dick “McCain will run away with this election” Morris?

He was a hack for Clinton and a hack today, yet many on the right can’t get enough. I give him credit. He can be wrong 1000 times and they come running back each time.

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“How can you tell a liberal on the blog without reading the post? They’re the ones with the smiley faces..”

Let’s play Doomy’s game, shall we? It’s a well known fact that progressives have a better sense of humor than conservatives.

And no, Doomy, before you ask…I do NOT have proof.

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“but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff”

got proof?

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How about a big cheer for us fake Jews!

Us liberal fake Jews, at that!

OK, off to join friends and celebrate this great country and her great people.

Not that I ever need an excuse.

Stay thirsty, my friends…

Hava nagila הבה נגילה Let’s rejoice
Hava nagila הבה נגילה Let’s rejoice
Hava nagila ve-nismeḥa הבה נגילה ונשמחה Let’s rejoice and be happy

Hava neranenah הבה נרננה Let’s sing
Hava neranenah הבה נרננה Let’s sing
Hava neranenah ve-nismeḥa הבה נרננה ונשמחה Let’s sing and be happy

Uru, uru aḥim! !עורו, עורו אחים Awake, awake, brothers!
Uru aḥim be-lev sameaḥ עורו אחים בלב שמח Awake brothers with a happy heart
Uru aḥim, uru aḥim! !עורו אחים, עורו אחים Awake, brothers, awake, brothers!
Be-lev sameaḥ בלב שמח With a happy heart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtv5qe5o3c

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I dedicated Fleetwood Mac’s “Landslide” to our right leaning bloggers last night. Hope you enjoyed it.

The pain will be over soon, but tonight, I dedicate one more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db542C4id5A

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“They know you can’t start unfunded wars ”

I think if I could kill this meme I could die happy. Not unFUNDED…unBUDGETED. The wars were FUNDED with borrowed money that was supplied by off-budget spending bills.

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RF

Yes….half the country wants stuff and does not care about debt; you are grossly naive not to think that. At the end of the next four years I shudder to think what this country will look like

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Doggone: you are so right, and I will definitely correct my verbiage for that. They were funded indeed, and we’ll spend the next ten years paying them off…sad.

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“I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”
– Thomas “Clinton” Jefferson

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Warren should do the War Dance of Remembrance for mr pickuptruck

that would be funny, both from the outside & the inside

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Good night La La Land libbies; the next 4 years will be proof, but I do not believe it will take that long

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Good night La La Land libbies…

Toodles, princess.

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http://www.theonion.com/articles/moments-leading-up-to-romneys-concession-most-like,30295/

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“the next 4 years will be proof, but I do not believe it will take that long”

Well! I can actually agree with that.

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Should have been Obama’s campaign theme song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1tT0e4deo

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http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/281437/36/Alan-Grayson-back-in-Congress

I hadn’t yet heard this piece of good news. If only we could get Kucinich back too.

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Wait

Who says Who will be the speaker in the next house?

Didn’t Cantor want that job?

Will we see a power struggle?

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Romney’s sentiments by 11 o’clock last night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI

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Then again, feeling morally superior seems to be an unshakeable conservative trait, win OR lose..

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Recon

And a large number of grumpy old white guys still want to own somebody else.

You stand where you choose to stand.

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Mr. Boehner

Fool us once shame on you….

Fool us twice shame on us….

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The Chinese are learning this capitalist thing fast.

This is a condom commercial put out on Chinese teevee today.
I’ll say that again.
This is a CONDOM commercial.
with a Chinese voice-over.
Using these pictures.
If you think Chinese aren’t hilarious, click this.

http://wonkette.com/489308/sure-here-are-michelle-obama-and-ann-romney-in-a-chinese-condom-ad-because-why-not

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Why can’t Lockheed Martin build something we NEED?

Well, now you’re talking. And I’m doing my part with a great invention. It’s sorta like the old time stocking garter, only it fits around both legs about the knees. It’s to help old grannies stay modest when they’re tipped upside down at a keg party. I figure the old folk will be praising me 100 years from now.

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Why all the depressed Republicans today. Did something bad happen to them.

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@saywhat?

November 7th, 2012
8:19 pm
“Lets put this under the scope, Blacks came out heavy for Obama because they see him as well Black. ”
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Don’t forget that all those whites came out for Obama because they see him as white. Just ask Chris Rock.
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Some of you have AMNESIA.

Blacks have been voting for WHITE MEN before Obama

was born.

Now that we have voted for a BLACK man its a PROBLEM.

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Lots of race baiting in here today from the left…

YOU WON!

Act like you’ve done it before.

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“Got proof?”

If you require proof you “Got” problem.

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Tax Payer,

No, nothing bad happened.

Just higher taxes and a lower standard of living for the middle class…

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Convert

Do you have one in a size 6?

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“Latinos will find a greater bound with their Christian brothers as they assimilate into America”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Now that’s good!! Considering their “christian” brothers don’t even recognize them as people and wrote all kinds of laws to target them and profile them in even simple traffic stops. Considering the christian right has championed “self-deportation” while refusing to even debate or consider reasonable paths to citizenship. Ironically, the party that snubbed them most could easily become their hero if they’d only consider things like the Dream Act or some reasonable legislation to allow those who want to be here and be recognized as citizens a reasonable way to get it. The Republicans could sweep that vote in the nex election…but they won’t because their elitist talking heads just will not come to their senses any time soon.

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Jay,

Just saw your video. How old is your photo above 15, 20, 25 years?

I thought only realestate agen photos were depective.

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“If you require proof you “Got” problem”

and once again…no proof. You know, most people learn in grade school that just because you say something it’s not neccessarily true…no matter how much you believe it is.

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“Some of you have AMNESIA”

That’s known as ROMNEYSIA these days.

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Recon

It goes in cycles, but if you think that Republican status quo will win the day, it is going to be disappointing.

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Taxi

“Buy low. Sell high.”
–Thomas “Wall Street” Jefferson

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Just higher taxes and a lower standard of living for the middle class…

You got hit with that in one day. Wow! I’m glad I’m not in your shoes.

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Since BOTH started it…

Here’s my dedication to Romney, Scott Brown, etc., etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybXrrTX3LuI

SMACKDOWN!!

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“So many lines, so little time”

Amen to that? Think they’ll ever catch on that we don’t take them seriously?

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oops! ? should have been !

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Certainly Doggone you rejoice in your grade school year books, while most of us have carried on into adulthood. It is said, however, that ignorance is bliss. Enjoy!

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DOGGONE

If ignorance is bliss, then the Wa-do must be the gayest person on the blog….

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Josef…no, that can’t be right. Didn’t you see my post about conservatives having no sense of humor? Now, using their logic…I said it…so it MUST be true!

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“If ignorance is bliss, then the Wa-do must be the gayest person on the blog”

NAHHHHH, he’s WAY too uptight. Too much work to get him to relax, although I have found the staunchest deniers can be such fun at times….

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del,

I thought you said mitt would win.

What happened?

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Brosephus,

I fought along side young white men and to a lessor extent by their numbers young black men, who’re now all old men. I don’t believe you’ve ever stepped up to that, so your racism is non-impressive to me. You can jive talk that candy azz somewhere else where it might impress.

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josef:

How about an Injun and a lesbian (I almost used a cruder term) in the Senate?

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moonbat

Yes he did. That might be something you call me on at a later date

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Takers Win…Makers Lose…and I thought I couldn’t hate liberals any more that I already did..I was wrong!!!

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And you saw it here folks….the meltdown of Recon as he stumbled off into the night muttering “candy azz” at errant squirrels in the trees….

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Obama’s theme song through out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUT9KQ-LuaU

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Recon

None of them are has consistent as they claim to be, when looking at election to election. And even breaking down the states and of course the Senatorial and Congressional elections.

Each of them will pick where they did well the last time and tout it as they are the best.

Rasmussen was at or near the top in 08. Gallup has missed on several of the last few elections.

To be honest, I think Rasmussen is better than Gallup, even-though he missed yesterday

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“and I thought I couldn’t hate liberals any more that I already did”

And the hate was the undoing of many of yours in this election. When all you have is hate, it eats you up until you’re old, bitter, and alone. But take heart, Obamacare will provide a nice home for you with medication and cable TV so you can watch Dick Morris and Karl Rove reruns along with Laurel and Hardy alllllll day long if you like.

Unlike you, we don’t hate. We include, we debate, but we NEVER exclude, look down upon, or minimze anyone who doesn’t look like us or come from Mayberry.

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getalife, Romney lost but Obama didn’t come away with a mandate. This country is divided as ever, if not more so.

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del,

You lost the tax argument.

It will not effect you so why slobber on the wealthy?

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This one is for Mitt and Ann. And the rest of those GOP’ers too…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jNlIGDRkvQ

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Bro: Looking at exit polling done by CNN, one can easily see the GOP is comprised of old, White men. That does not bode well for long term viability of any political party. Continually berating others who don’t share in the lack of melanin doesn’t help diversify the GOP either

In my little world what I have observed: (Antecdotal, so TIFWIW) is that young working professionals are most distressed about the outcome of the election, whether they be male/female white, black, or latino. Old white guys like me, not so much.

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President Obama stomped a mud hole in your candy azz.

You can count on getalife to keep it classy.

get: Why do you hate America so much?

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Oh dear, it seems that while our attention was drawn elsewhere, over the weekend the number of theaters showing that mostest awesomest film ever, Atlas Shrugged II, got cut in more than half from147 to 70.

The little engine that couldn’t.

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godless,

Do you smell what the President is cooking?

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BROSEPHUS

Maybe he’s got this thing for Big Black Bucks and he…well, some things ARE better left in the closet!

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“If your combat experience is the only thing you have going for you that makes you a man, then you are one sorry assed excuse for a man.”

I’ve even got more than that but if all you can hang your hat on is being a TSA government emplyoyee and a Bookman racist blog lawyer, well…I’ll keep it clean by saying that you don’t have my respect or from the very many like me.

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Bro @ 8:56

That one always puzzles me.

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“Is that not a little odd?”

grotesque hypocrisy from a popular pundit? lemme think.

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“You dissing Brosephus?”

Nope.

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Recon

I know you have more than that, but for you to call me racist??? Do you even read or understand the things you post here??? I don’t want or need your respect, because I don’t know you, nor do I wish to know you. Close minded people like you are the reason this country is so effed up.

I’ve accomplished far more than you would ever know because I don’t go bragging on what I’ve done. TSA is the least of what I’ve done in my lifetime.

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godless @ 9:02

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Excuse me, but I missed where Recon was bigoted and racist.

Maybe I missed the post?

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@Bro 9:03- I’ve learned in my years of living that those that talk so ignorantly and think they gain points by being insipid end up with very, very few listening to them and their bitterness eats them up. They don’t even realize how much they weaken their cause while they grin like a serial killer at a computer screen and think “well I gotcha that time, didn’t I?” I never cease to be amazed at how they hang on and manage to procreate…

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As a life-long liberal the present situation requires compromise and that includes cuts, cuts, and more cuts with EVERYTHING on the table including Defense Spending and an increase in revenue, since tax revenues as a percentage of GDP are at a 60 year low.

So, yes, cut, cut, cut and increase revenues!

And, to hell with Grover Norquist and his disciples.

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Obama Won!

Dance, TaxPayer,

You get to contribute more, more, more.

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Recon

Did I say Obama had a mandate?

I was simply stating the hypocrisy of prominent Fox “News” commentator and pundit mentioned.

Make sure you let him know as well.

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“It’s not rocket science….”

And since there’s no birth control, well, we get more and more of them. I just wonder if they’re allowed to have fun during the act. Me thinks not judging from the angst of some posting here. Maybe Obamacare will get them some therapy?

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“how unfair this country has been to Black Americans throughout our history”

Truth hurts sometimes.

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“I’m gonna save that one for “the talk” with my kids”

I spend my day with teenagers….trust me, have the full detail talk and have it OFTEN. Mine at home get tired of hearing it, but like I tell them “if you ask if we have to have this talk AGAIN, then I know you’ve been listening.”

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Brosephus,

Just don’t have that A/B talk with the little ones at an IKEA. No telling what you’ll end up grandparenting

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“rational governance”

Travis: say that too much and the neocons all get pale, start shaking, and run off slapping themselves on the side of the head and yelling “NOOOOOOOO!!!”

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To Pelosi,

may she grab the hammer again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr9zvX-BdYo

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his name was originally “Angry Black Man”

That’s just because he’s a crazed liberal. …or so I read back upthread

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“the dow down -> 312 points !!

What a pitiful human.

… and first thing tomorrow I make the maximum 2012 contribution to my IRA, idiot.

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Well kids, I stayed up WAY too late last night celebratin’, so I gotta get some sleep. Tired cranky Teacher Man is NOT a welcome sight in the school building. At least now I can relax and sleep knowing the country has avoided the nosedive into the abyss of angry Tea Party Land.

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RW

Ok. Didn’t think about Ikea, so we’ll have the talk at home away from the garage (power tools).

That’s just because he’s a crazed liberal. …or so I read back upthread

I’m waiting on my mouth foaming kit to come in. They were on back order at QVC.

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Been a long day…I’m out for the night.

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” Unlike you and many like you, I have no problem with discussing the history of this country, and I don’t get uncomfortable about doing so.”

Sure you do as long as you think it supports your views. I just don’t agree with your historical views much less where your opinions come from today.

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Today Obama floated the idea of a carbon emission tax. In other words power companies will pass on increased costs and once again screw the middle class. Obama could have gone after the hedge fund guys, close their tax loopholes. But he went to Wall Street and raised big bucks there so, like almost everybody in Washington, he is owned by the Street. Ergo lies one of the fundamental problems in this country.

word

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Sure you do as long as you think it supports your views. I just don’t agree with your historical views much less where your opinions come from today.

I’ve never once asked you or anybody else on this blog to agree with my views or opinions. I state mine just as you state yours. One thing I can do that some here can not is, I can prove evidence to support my views. As to history, my views are formed based on studying history. Anything I post or say will sound like it something supporting my view because that’s the information I used to form my view. I like to study and research things before I form my opinions. I don’t do the opinions first and then find supporting information later thing that some people do.

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May Levy Carbon Tax to Cut U.S. Deficit…

drudgey spam.

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Bloomberg reported on the possiblity of a carbon tax about 2 o’clock this afternoon. Don’t know about Drudge, don’t follow him, have never visited his site.

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Do you have one in a size 6?

Granny, you ain’t wore a size 6 since you left 1st grade.

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I don’t do the opinions first and then find supporting information later thing that some people do

Dude I saw a comment on a conservative site today, and I can’t stress enough that it was just a comment like these we’re posting, but the guy was convinced that the vote totals had never really been counted, they just reported whatever would match the polling data going into the election.

You can charge me with being a disappointed conservative and I’ll plead guilty as charged but good Lord some people need to get a grip on reality.

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the guy was convinced that the vote totals had never really been counted, they just reported whatever would match the polling data going into the election.

Wow… That’s definitely a face palm moment there.

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I’d be honored to take a trip with you to Iowa to shake things up.

Don’t go all TNTNBP Party on me, we only get to start in Iowa and I may have to do New Hampshire on my own since I speak Yankee. You can handle South Carolina and we’ll reconvene if Florida.

That would be nice, but my first question would be if the electorate really know what they said?

That’s true and our territories didn’t do much better. Puerto Rico voted that they’d like to be a state and threw out the Governor that was pushing for statehood.

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“ll keep it clean by saying that you don’t have my respect or from the very many like me.”

My bad. Must have been a misinterpretation.

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Oh my God! That guy might be right, it appears Cartman has stolen the election

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The gop civil war is back on and rove is catching hell.

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India’s gonna git a lot of calls about their Turbo Taxes rising!

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India’s gonna git a lot of calls about their Turbo Taxes rising!

as they did in ‘08.

go figure..

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effn

you get the point

sour grapes and sour loser

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Brosephus,

I used to have Puerto Rico as part of my responsibility in an earlier life. The guys I worked with spoke English until about two hours after the sun went down and then my high school Spanish couldn’t catch up. You can ask your friends about that language thing too, but I suspect rum had something to do with it.

There was a place in San Juan called the Black Angus which I thought was probably a steakhouse when they said they were taking me. Turned out to be something a little different.

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If you are really interested in how Washington works (or doesn’t work) check out a book by Mike Lofgren called “The Party is Over.” Lofgren was a GOP policy wonk for 28 years who recently retired. This book is definitely worth your time.

I’m not going to review the book, there are plenty of well written reviews on Amazon. But I will say while the Dems get trashed a bit, Lofgren absolutely eviscerates the GOP, and rightly so.

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“Not for this year, but I will for 2013 thanks to the little tax deduction that’s due in March.”

Congrats, Bro.

Bless you and yours.

over and out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC1pZfbGpHI

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Thanks betty.

Time to call it an evening. Y’all have fun.

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or off blog….

IHB

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During the days I don’t know how we were able to function in the water still about three quarters drunk.

Recon,

You may have just hit on the theme that brings us all together!

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South Park is done and I’ll sign off as well. Congrats to my lib friends and chin up to my conservative friends.Love you both and goodnight.

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Mr. Bookman,

Raising revenue by taxing the rich is fool’s gold–maybe even intentionally so. It won’t avail the US treasury of nearly as much money as growing the economy would. Still, we can’t have rich people not willing to give some “skin” in the game.

Oh, and did anyone see the DOW today?

Looks like Democrats are already getting their wishes coming true. There is more skin in the game, and the rich are getting skinned after all.

Will that help the treasury?

Oh, who cares. Let’s just throw a big party for our fool President, our Obambarassment and his dippy snarking sidekick, “that’s just” Joe!

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Balls – Dow down today, but up over 60% under Obama (after being down 25% under the last disasterous prez). I’ll take up 60% anytime, but you fret about today. Maybe sell your stocks and go buy a few years worth of freeze dried food and bottled water for the coming apocalypse.

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JamVet just for you

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/26/Exodus-Inter-City-Blacks-Fleeing-Obama-Democrats

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。☆ 。☆。☆
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Obama 4 MORE
–Deal with it TroIIs–
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“I can say that I don’t respect many of his posts, which I think are racial.”

oh, FFS

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http://e-edition.metro.co.uk/home.html

go to pages 6-7 for a fantastic graphic on who voted O

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Just one of those LPs where pretty much everything on it was awesome…

From the very first time I blessed my eyes on you, girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6NNGVHrqho

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“moron”, “retarded”, “black on the inside”, “mentally ill”, “Unamerican”, “we should all wear black today”, and more…

These were the things said to my 11yo daughter yesterday as she went to the defense of a friend who was being harassed by a group of 7 kids at their East Cobb middle school yesterday. She tells me at least one of those kids has been spouting all this crap for the last couple weeks.

So now on top of all else a parent has to worry about when we send our children off to school, we have to worry about political bullying as well.

It’s one thing to come a blog like this and fling zingers, but in my personal life I choose to NEVER discuss 2 things with people, politics and religion. I’m not one of those folks who has been incessantly posting political items on my facebook page, or covers my car with bumper stickers. I have a dear friend, more than one really, who has gone nuts with all the Oblama stuff on FB, I love him like a brother so I just read it and chuckle, but these things don’t interfere with who he and I are when we get together.

It’s one thing to strongly believe something and/or strongly believe in something, it’s quite another to instill this crap into your children. I speak to right or left. The ex Mrs. Troll is fairly verbal about her beliefs, I have no control over that. I’m proud of my daughter for stepping up to defend a friend who was set upon, but I did talk to her about publicly espousing your political beliefs, it’s just not a good idea.

Kids need to be kids, and this kind of stuff ain’t kid stuff. Think about what we’re doing to the children.

Finally, the “unAmerican” comment makes my blood boil, her grandfather joined the navy at the age of 17, then the army after that, he saw action in two wars. Her Uncle went to Grenada, her other uncle almost bled out on a dirt road in Fallujah in 2004 from an IED, I’d be willing to bet that not one of those 7 kids spouting this crap in an East Cobb middle school can say the same.

UnAmerican indeed.

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“Unfortunately, these things, like the truth, eventually catch up with you.”

Kinda like what happened on Tuesday night?

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I am amused by the people who say Romney lost because he was too liberal. Let’s see, the Republicans have alienated the blacks, the Hispanics, a whole lot of women – and now they want to alienate the center, independent voter?

That is NOT smart. The reason that Romney did as well as he did is because of support from centrist independent voters. Call him a RINO if you want, but a very conservative Rebublican candidate would have lost by a landslide.

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“If there ain’t some cuts involved it ain’t gonna work.”

and no one is saying that cuts aren’t part of the deal – all Dems have said all along is that taxes need to increase as well

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Taxing the upper class their fair share may not solve all the revenue problems , but it’s a dang good start.

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“Taxing the upper class their fair share may not solve all the revenue problems , but it’s a dang good start.”

You’re right, it won’t solve anything. It’s Obama’s same old class warfare.

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USNUK

I’m having a real tough time getting a handle on the definition of “fair share”…seems to me that amount is governed by the tax code…despite all its flaws. I guess I’m mistaken as I have learned from DEMs that “fair share” means other people not including their base need to pay more and pushing the tax code to the limit is akin to stealing from women and children.

The vilification of the wealthy is a sad outcome/successful strategy of the DEMS…our dysfunctional government spends more than we can pay and it’s the fault of the evil wealthy…I think that the issue with whether individuals of any means, like the government, life beyond their means, bought too much house poorly timed…etcetera….argueably our government is a microcosm of all of us…

We borrow money to finance luxuries that we should pay cash for…in risky fashion, mortgaging that which should be left for our kids..talk about screwed..

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What is Obama going to do to enable people getting free stuff to stand on their own two feet and earn a living instead of depending on the Gov for their very existence? Free stuff isn’t really free. It’s being paid for by the working class.

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Stevie Ray – which is why I have a problem with the phrase “fair share” – I don’t disagree with you in the least on that one.

(and, as anyone here who knows me well will attest, I’m all for a flat tax with no deductions)

I don’t / won’t / can’t speak for all Dems, but I can say that *I* don’t vilify the wealthy – I only vilify those who think that they EARNED the money they inherited and those who look down their noses at the working class, calling them scroungers and takers. The majority of the poor ARE working poor – working. As in, they HAVE a job. If they don’t pay income taxes, it’s because of programs that RONALD REAGAN started because he thought that was the best way to help them get out of poverty. Don’t like it? Take it up with him.

Lastly, I couldn’t agree more on debt – the mister and I are completely debt-free. No mortgage. We pay off our credit-card every month. We don’t just live within our means, we live well under our means. But, I also know that we’re lucky – we’re both gainfully employed in good companies that pay a decent salary. Neither of us have an illness – and, if we did, we have health insurance + the NHS.

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orange

Why do you believe in such propaganda? Do you really believe that is the cause of our massive debt? Try unfunded tax cuts, 2 wars, medicare part d, interest on the debt, lower revenue because of the great recession. Get off the merry go round of blaming welfare for all our ills. In the great scheme of our debt, it is insignificant…

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stevie

Wake up dude…I’m only talking about raising taxes on them four percentage points not confiscating all their wealth. They can easily afford more…geez, how did we ever have millionaires and billionaires in the 90’s? Let them pay more, it’s a no brainer…

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MICK

I agree with you on those making $500K or more and we should make it more transparent by eliminating all deductions and applying a flat tax..unfortunately and as is the case with all issues, the tax lawyers pay too much vigorous to our elected money sponges that the likihood of putting them out of business is remote

Sorry if I came off as a dick…not adequately caffeinated:-(

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OBFA – Obama bad for America

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