Boehner: ‘We’re willing to accept new revenue’
It’s a long, torturous road from word to deed, but this could be huge …
“Republicans are “willing to accept new revenue” to tame the soaring national debt and avert an ugly battle over the approaching “fiscal cliff,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday in a speech that offered a potential path to compromise in year-end budget negotiations.
With President Obama reelected and Republicans returned to a slightly smaller majority in the House, Boehner (R-Ohio) said Tuesday’s election amounted to a plea from voters for the parties to lay down their weapons of the past two years and “do what’s best for our country.”
“That is the will of the people. And we answer to them,” Boehner said, according to advance excerpts of a speech he planned to deliver at an afternoon news conference at the Capitol. “For purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we’re willing to accept new revenue, under the right conditions.”
We’ll see what Eric Cantor, Tom Price and Paul Ryan, among other GOP House members, have to say about this. Boehner also repeated his opposition to raising revenue by increasing tax rates, suggesting that he would accept doing so by altering the tax code. But the ice might be breaking.
– Jay Bookman
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Jm
November 8th, 2012
7:21 am
OBFA – Obama bad for America
Mick
November 8th, 2012
7:24 am
stevie
No, you at least debate quite civil. It would be a damn boring world if we all thought the same. Keep on with your perspective, you never know when your point hits home…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 8th, 2012
7:24 am
Maybe I’m different, but I feel that every person lucky enough to be born American, given opportunities for success that only America can give, and does ultimately succeed, has a patriotic duty to pay his or hers fair share of taxes without loopholes or hiding money off shore. It is only pay back to a country that gave you that opportunity.
Ken
November 8th, 2012
7:25 am
21% of the budget is for Govt pensions. That’s huge. Thousands of private industry pensions ( like mine ) have been cut or eliminated . And most tax paying citizens do not have any form of retirement.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 8th, 2012
7:25 am
SO…
Karl Rove is having a meeting today with his billionaire donors.
Do you think he’ll be debriefed?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 8th, 2012
7:26 am
Mick,
Do you think Mr. Rove will try to deduct all those millions from his taxes…grin…
dcb
November 8th, 2012
7:26 am
Good for you, Jay. A fairly moderate piece for a change. In fact you’ve had two or three of these in the last few days … kudos. Have to admit, though, I keep read reading line to line expecting to find the zinger snuck in there at the end. Sort of disappointed when I don’t find one. Stay left young man – stay left. It makes more fun reading for ole’ guys like me.
Mick
November 8th, 2012
7:26 am
jm
Chill…it ’s the congress man, obama is the executive. Focus on the intransigent house, yes we must cut but also raise revenue! Plain common sense, nothing more…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
7:26 am
“I’m heading your way for my bi-annual visit to Lloyds to mingle with the most astounding group of arrogant, mostly trust funded, group of “aristocracy” in you land..at least in my limited travel..”
no way!!! well, bundle up – it’s been a bit chilly here (days in the mid-50s, but we got our first frost on Tuesday)
I used to work right around the corner from Lloyds – amazing building – love it at dusk. Are you an actuary? And thank you for recognizing that the UK has some killer food!! if you’re looking for a good steak while you’re in town, go to the Goucho Grille on Gracechurch Street (almost directly across from the XL building and Leadenhall Market) … it is TREEEEMENDOUS. If you like Moroccan, I suggest Haz.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
7:27 am
“Karl Rove is having a meeting today with his billionaire donors.”
Table for 1 at the Woodshed.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 8th, 2012
7:27 am
Granny G.
Mr. Rove could end up wearing cement shoes at the bottom of Lake Mead…
Jm
November 8th, 2012
7:28 am
This must be like what anti war activists felt like during the bush years
Only for those that care about the economy and jobs instead
Mick
November 8th, 2012
7:29 am
In the 90’s we had a democratic president and republican house, by the time his term was over, the debt was on the way down – it can be done…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
7:30 am
Granny – you think Ol’ Turd Blossom will get the treatment that Seneca Crane got at the end of The Hunger Games … locked in a room with a bowl of poisonous berries … no way out.
now, I’d pay to see that.
Mick
November 8th, 2012
7:32 am
Rove needs to be jettisoned into the trash heap of history! His time has come and went, bye bye…
Orange12
November 8th, 2012
7:32 am
Mick@0716,
At one trillion a year. Yes I think that contributes to a bad economy. Now, I have to go to work so I can pay taxes and help fund the free loaders.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
7:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfGjeBqqqfU
heck, I’d even be willing to draw the beard on him with a sharpie …
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 8th, 2012
7:34 am
“Yes I think that contributes to a bad economy. Now, I have to go to work so I can pay taxes and help fund the free loaders.”
yeah … you just keep on keeping on and avoiding listing all the mythical “free stuff” …
Mick
November 8th, 2012
7:35 am
orange
You are in la la land it is nowhere close to a trillion…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 8th, 2012
7:38 am
Orange12
November 8th, 2012
7:32 am
Mick@0716,
At one trillion a year. Yes I think that contributes to a bad economy. Now, I have to go to work so I can pay taxes and help fund the free loaders.
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.
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As designated by the map at the bottom of the attached?
http://swampland.time.com/2012/09/18/five-charts-illustrating-the-problem-with-romneys-47-remarks/
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
7:39 am
The billionaire backers of the GOP can buy my vote for the right price. Make me an offer I can’t refuse.
Ronin
November 8th, 2012
7:41 am
The concession from Boehner doesn’t really solve anything.
There is no tax revenue problem, at all. It’s the spending that’s been out of control for decades.
Raising more taxes will simply allow for more planned expenditures.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
7:43 am
No more war on the economy Mr Obama!
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
7:43 am
Karl Rove and his cronies played those billionaire backers like the tools that they are. Now they are demanding an explanation for why their money did not buy them the election results they were promised.
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
7:46 am
Boehner and the house cons need to deliver on their 2010 jobs campaign. I notice that they did not use a jobs campaign this time around. What did cons campaign on this time around anyway.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:51 am
Donald Trump just tweeted, “Congrats to @KarlRove on blowing $400 million this cycle. Every race @CrossroadsGPS ran ads in, the Republicans lost. What a waste of money.”
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:54 am
“Karl Rove is having a meeting today with his billionaire donors.”
hehehehe. “Oh, Karl, you got some splainin’ to do”
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:55 am
How about Steve Doocy yesterday saying Obama needs to learn a lesson here with this election and moderate his plans for the next 4 years.
DAMN! Do you people really watch this stuff?
rabbit
November 8th, 2012
7:55 am
“And some of the right-wing postmortems are suggesting that Romney lost because he was too liberal — which constitutes a definition of delusional.” Nikolas Kristoff NYT
The future of the Republican party depends on its ability to form a center-right coalition with independents. The ultimate failure of 30 year marriage with the religious right was revealed by the election the Republicans should have won.
The demographic shifts of the nation require a reset.
Reality
November 8th, 2012
7:58 am
Republicans say that they will be “okay” with additional revenue?
Sure, as long as it doesn’t come from:
1. The most wealthy Americans (their Donors with incomes over $250,000).
2. Their corporate Donors (includes the insurance industry, etc.)
This leaves the middle class Americans with modest incomes. That’s it. THAT is where the republicans are “okay” with getting additional revenue from.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
7:59 am
Make jobs, not welfare recipients!
Rabbit
November 8th, 2012
8:03 am
Jm is right with his exhortation to make jobs. If he’s asking government to assist, it will require some agreement with the proposition that government has a role in encouraging new economies – the President’s new fuel standards will create jobs. Battery technology, vehicle efficiencies, etc.
But there are other possibilities. the US has always led in the area of innovation (until recently). We can do that again. There are great economic opportunities in developing solutions to combat climate change.
We just have to invite the naysayers to step out of the bubble.
TiredOfIt
November 8th, 2012
8:04 am
Mr. Adelson, the biggest single donor in political history, supported eight candidates through “super PACs.” All of them lost on Tuesday.
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And he can’t afford a 4% tax increase, then it’s time he left.
curious
November 8th, 2012
8:05 am
After spending so much money supporting all those losing candidates, the wealthy can’t afford any additional taxes.
In fact, The 47% should probably start a relief fund for them.
Peter
November 8th, 2012
8:05 am
This must be like what anti war activists felt like during the bush years
Only for those that care about the economy and jobs instead
Yup…….. Romney can now go back into Bane and send more jobs over seas……. Thank you Mitt !
Peter
November 8th, 2012
8:07 am
Jm ……is there not a Blog in Florida where you live to complain on ?
Maybe you can tell us about all the wonderful Stuff Deal is doing for Georgia, since you are so in tune.
Tundra Dude
November 8th, 2012
8:08 am
Why isn’t this guy behind bars?
from the 2008 election: Karl Rove, boasting of his work…??
Colonels in mirrored sunglasses
http://bit.ly/RjgCzo
“We are beginning to look like we have elections like those run in countries where the guys in charge are, you know, colonels in mirrored sunglasses.”
~Karl Rove
clem
November 8th, 2012
8:08 am
raise the level to exclude small business owners say net of $500k then raise the rates back to clinton era for top earners. simple to do. uber rich don’t use standard deductions like mortgage interest, etc. anyway to avoid taxes. this group has benefitted by being able to keep salaries of employees down, stock market rebound, and slight economic growth. it is the middle getting clobbered.
get commissions with drop dead dates of 2 years to have entitlement and tax reform done. broadening tax base if possible may allow corporate rate reductions, holding line on entitlement rates (though age may go up).
get wall st (dodd frank) cleaned up and enforceable.
program reductions in a multiple of at least 2 also needed with glide path on cuts tied to economy. build in objective triggers. and bring the troops home and cut the military budget some (allow for restoring depleted necessary military inventory that has likely been streteched with 10 year war)
get busy on energy independence.
and get g.d. tpers to stfu and let congress do their job. also, pass a law that says if congress doesn’t get work done on budgets etc they don’t get paid. seems like the only thing congress can get done for the big salaries and benefits is getting ready to run next time.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:09 am
Rabbit
Wrong
barking frog
November 8th, 2012
8:09 am
Jm
Election is over. Go pick up some trash and get the economy moving.
middle of the road
November 8th, 2012
8:09 am
“21% of the budget is for Govt pensions.”
Whoa! Reference? I don’t think this is correct.
TiredOfIt
November 8th, 2012
8:10 am
Finn McCool (The System isn’t Broken; It’s Fixed)
November 8th, 2012
7:55 am
How about Steve Doocy yesterday saying Obama needs to learn a lesson here with this election and moderate his plans for the next 4 years.
DAMN! Do you people really watch this stuff?
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Doocy should be given the title of Village Idiot for the US.
winston Churchill
November 8th, 2012
8:10 am
well yanks, you’ve elected that Obama again,and as far as I can see-fair and square. Well you’ve taken another step toward centralized planning and after the Wall street debacle who can blame you. Just hope you don’t follow us toward the National”Health” plan (thank goodness, I’m dead already). Don’t believe the proponents of it’s efficacy. I guarantee you yanks won’t like it….
I see that the granny and the Kamchak’s are in full attack mode on your Republican party and applauding the mistales of this Rove fellow (Really called this one,….) Anyway, I can’t help but remember that I was with the liberal party before the Great War and was high as a kite, then the ballon went up at Gallipoli and well…I was written into the dustbins of history. Then this nasty little Austrian transformed himself, Neville dithered, I changed to the conservatives and the ballonwas back up, only this time I rallied the Queen and ,well the rest they say is history……
Difficult as it is for you Yanks to admit, we all make mistakes. The qusetion is wether one learns from them.. Your Republicans are an angry group and on the whole a brighter breed than the average Democrat (sorry Granny, but it really is quite obvious). Do not overplay your hand, best of luck finding the 15 trillion from your gilded wealthy, killing the duck who lays the golden egg (while keeping some of it) is always a dicey proposition..
Clemmie, more cognac……and a cigar…where’s that Clinton fellow he always has a good one, har,har
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:10 am
Democrats completely control CA
Let’s see how that goes
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:12 am
Frog
Afraid all the trash is here and not going away
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 8th, 2012
8:12 am
Rabbit
November 8th, 2012
8:03 am
Jm is right with his exhortation to make jobs. If he’s asking government to assist, it will require some agreement with the proposition that government has a role in encouraging new economies – the President’s new fuel standards will create jobs. Battery technology, vehicle efficiencies, etc.
But there are other possibilities. the US has always led in the area of innovation (until recently). We can do that again. There are great economic opportunities in developing solutions to combat climate change.
We just have to invite the naysayers to step out of the bubble.
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The entire history…of the entire human race……..is nothing but the story of decent people trying to ESCAPE “the proposition that government has a role in encouraging new economies”.
and/or collectivism.
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lol
Gale
November 8th, 2012
8:12 am
@jm The thing about jobs not welfare is that many of those people on welfare need both for a time to get beyond welfare. There are too many stories of people who stop working because they then make too much to get healthcare or subsidized childcare for their children, without which, they cannot be out working. There should be an end to welfare. But people often need a hand up to get to the next rung on the ladder. Tax funded, and corporate funded training and childcare need to be there if we are to have a trained workforce that is not on welfare.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 8th, 2012
8:12 am
And escape from the clovers who espouse it.
middle of the road
November 8th, 2012
8:16 am
Why don’t they try this:
If you want to have a war – you have to pay for it with incresed taxes.
If you want to Expand Medicare to include prescription drugs, you have to have increased taxes to pay for it.
If you want to increase defense spending, you either have to increase taxes or cut something else.
The two sides need to sit down together and COMPROMISE. Republicans can’t say NO INCREASE IN TAXES and NO CUTS TO DEFENSE, and Democrats can’t say HANDS OFF MEDICAID and NO CUTS TO WELFARE. EVERYTHING has got to be on the table: tax increase, defense cuts, Medicaid cuts, even management of Social Security and Medicare (although they have their own funding source and balancing should be within THAT sphere).
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:16 am
Democrat controlled CA just raised their income tax rate from 10% to 13%
Whew
That’ll create jobs
Gale
November 8th, 2012
8:18 am
Ouch! As if it wasn’t expensive enough to live in CA.
Alex
November 8th, 2012
8:18 am
@jm, went to N. Cali last year, my advice to anyone who wants to know why Cali is bankrupt, GO VISIT..Nice people (on the whole), smart people and LAZY as HELL. Plane and simple: go to a resturant, go to a store, take the “rapid” transit in San Fran (if your nose can tolerate it). Just try to follow the road signs, go ahead just try…. But please STAY AWAY from Tahoe,they do not need or want any more californians from the Bay area there !
AU Liberal in ATL
November 8th, 2012
8:19 am
Boehner’s the same jerk he always has been. Basically what he said was he’s open to implementing the Romney plan. F that noise. Romney lost. We don’t want his plan.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:20 am
Democrat controlled CA plans to now raise property taxes
I may not be blessed enough to live in Singapore, but thank god I don’t live in CA
Al
November 8th, 2012
8:21 am
California will be looking for a bailout…. and get it!!
Skip
November 8th, 2012
8:21 am
Six pages and all I learned is that the V.F.W. bar must have WiFi.
JKL2
November 8th, 2012
8:23 am
Post election headlines: obama re-elected, stock market crashes, government headed off fiscal cliff.
Thanks obama!
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
8:23 am
Jm’s moaning over his failure to procure gainful employment in Singapore. Where did I put that nano-violin.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:24 am
Gale 8:12
Nothing I disagree with there
Frankly, from a spending standpoint, welfare isn’t that large of a problem
Unemployment and entitlements are
when rhetoric fails
November 8th, 2012
8:24 am
21% of the budget is for Govt pensions. That’s huge. Thousands of private industry pensions ( like mine ) have been cut or eliminated . And most tax paying citizens do not have any form of retirement.
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Look at the salaries for those government workers. The private corporations salaries are almost doubled and government employees do not receive BONUSES. When they do an outstanding job, they receive a paper certificate instead of paper dollar$. If the private sector jobs do not know how to take those big salaries and invest them in a 401 type of retirement, why blame the govenment employee?
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
8:24 am
It does a heart good to just think about the pain and suffering the right wingnuts will have to endure for four more years.
Alex
November 8th, 2012
8:26 am
“go EAST young man”
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:27 am
Democrats have 2/3 majorities in both chambers and the governorship in CA
Let’s see how good a job they do….
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:29 am
Per SNL
Obama closing off more public lands to natural gas drilling
Great
Gale
November 8th, 2012
8:30 am
It just occurred to me that CA has a pretty conservative electorate. (see Prop
How is it those conservatives keep raising state taxes to pay for entitlements and services?
indigo
November 8th, 2012
8:30 am
If he doesn’t know it already, Karl Rove will find out his Big Business donors have hearts of stone. He will be told, is the harshest terms possible, to see that they get a return on their investment or else find another money source for election and re-election funding.
If this meeting could be filmed, all Americans would find out just how much truth there is in calling our country The Corporate States of America.
GT
November 8th, 2012
8:31 am
Georgia is the hole in the wall hideout for the few lunatic fringed holdouts after the election. Tom Price has immunity; in fact he has capital in the bank to make this a trip to the dentist for the rest of America. Eric Cantor may be a little more realistic coming from Virginia a twice Obama fraternity, and if he has higher aspirations politically I do believe that state and this country will make him display he can get along with the other kids in the neighborhood. Ryan should not escape the reality he couldn’t even carry his own state with the garbage he was preaching. The next Republican president will have to be more centered to America; this is a great opportunity for Ryan to reinvent himself. I think America outside this cave of old confederate states want to get back to being America, they saw the polls that Fox and the lunatic right claimed were left propaganda were right on the money, now the moderate right wonders what else have these tent revival Rolex wearing preacher of stage indignation lied to them about? Of course this stuff never dawns on the southern mind which is going to slum it for another four years while the rest of America recovers.
Gale
November 8th, 2012
8:31 am
Interesting Prop 8 became a smiley. I hope that means it will be shot down by the courts.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:32 am
Per SNL.com
Obama planning tighter regulations on coal plants, forcing more coal plant shutdowns
Power prices going to go up
Tundra Dude
November 8th, 2012
8:34 am
It does a heart good to just think about the pain and suffering the right wingnuts will have to endure for four more years.
The bad news is, they all might file for disability.
DannyX
November 8th, 2012
8:34 am
When all else fails whine about California.
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:35 am
Power prices going to go up
_______
No, they will go down. Increased use of natural gas, solar and oil produced by the US will offset any increase in cost of coal energy.
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:37 am
this is a great opportunity for Ryan to reinvent himself
______
Now you have gone into comic writing. Don’t think Ryan can reinvent himself. He’s stuck forever into his Ryan mode. No escape.
Tundra Dude
November 8th, 2012
8:37 am
Obama planning tighter regulations on coal plants, forcing more coal plant shutdowns
Power prices going to go up
pulmonary disease going Down
air quality going Up
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 8th, 2012
8:37 am
jm,
It seems to me that California is doing what it has to do. Raising taxes across the board is a good start and shows that they are serious about their budget woes. They will have to make cuts too, but the Democrat leadership is showing they have guts. Get used to it. That will be what will happen nationwide, if I made a guess…
Gale
November 8th, 2012
8:38 am
Coal plants need to reinvent themselves. They could do more to capture the pollution –and heat– they generate. They do not want to do it because of the capital investment. Such is the case in many of America’s factories. Old and inefficient, they are, but new regulations make it expensive to build new or improve old. It is cheaper to run with the old failing equipment. The regulations are good. What we need to do is incent them to do the improvements.
TaxPayer
November 8th, 2012
8:38 am
The bad news is, they all might file for disability.
They apparently already think that people live good prosperous lives on welfare so I think they should go for it and learn firsthand what it’s really like.
Alex
November 8th, 2012
8:40 am
@ liberal, GT, Tundra, man chill out, the anger-your man won, rejoice, be happy-relax, Goodness,what a group of hideously angry people…
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:41 am
Democrat controlled CA just raised their income tax rate from 10% to 13%
Whew
That’ll create jobs
__________
That will create income for the state to help pay its bills and maybe keep their schools open. And that will provide trained people – who will create jobs.
No education system, no trained people results in fewer jobs.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
8:41 am
California is the new ‘Newwww Yerk Cityyy”
TiredOfIt
November 8th, 2012
8:42 am
Governor Mitt Romney Point to a Coal Fired Electrical Power Plant and say, “This Plant KILLS People.”
Rabbit
November 8th, 2012
8:42 am
Junior
Escape? Exactly what is government if it is not the organization of society for the purpose of developing a structure through which we can 1) protect individuals from harm by other individuals; 2) help individuals who can’t agree (or are agrieved) to resolve their difference with out resort to violence; 3) advance society both physically and intellectually in order to further the goals of (1) and (2)?
Every law passed impacts us. Every tax law is either an incentive or disincentive to economic strategies by business and individuals. Whether you like or not, government action or inaction impacts either favorably or unfavorably the ability of people to innovate and improve.
In the hazy glow of reflection, much of the innovation and improvement in the 50s and 60s was the result of significant government support. Your morning bacon was zapped in a microwave that might not exist except for the space program.
No, Junior we have spent our history trying to calibrate the way and degree to which government helps and avoid having it hurt. But we (or at least most of us) have always understood that government matters.
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:42 am
Gale, are you on meds?
“It just occurred to me that CA has a pretty conservative electorate. “
stands for decibels
November 8th, 2012
8:42 am
Finally, the “unAmerican” comment makes my blood boil, her grandfather joined the navy at the age of 17, then the army after that, he saw action in two wars
RWT, your story hits incredibly close to home–my kid is about the same age, and we’ve a Gramps who proudly voted for Obama, who had fought the Axis powers on board a destroyer in the Pacific.
Fortunately for us, so far, it hasn’t gotten ugly at school, but I’m really sorry to hear that some Cobb County parents in *your* midst are making a great case for mandatory sterilization.
barking frog
November 8th, 2012
8:43 am
The pyramids were built through a government works project.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
8:44 am
This Grover Norquist dude says the Republicans really won Tuesday.
yeah man. Throw the fat pillhead pig out & make him your leader.
Alex
November 8th, 2012
8:45 am
@ Gale, yea like the car companies, have the Tax payer pay off their bonds and write off the rest of their debts, YEA , that’s fair—
@ Corbin, I hope you are not right, Cali is in the crapper, has been for several years and businesses keep moving out , when silicone valley begins to migrate to Nebraska, don’t laugh… Then….
Jm
November 8th, 2012
8:46 am
Oscar 8:35 wrong
Tundra – yes, but at what cost?
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:46 am
The pyramids were built through a government works project.
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So was the Erie canal, the interstate highway system, Hoover dam, the space program, and the railroads. I could go on.
The Georgia Dome and more socialism is purposed by the owner of the Falcons – he wants a new stadium built with government.-private co-operation.
JKL2
November 8th, 2012
8:47 am
Corbin- It seems to me that California is doing what it has to do. Raising taxes across the board is a good start and shows that they are serious about their budget woes.
The liberal utopia is hoping that someday they can be as fiscally responsible as Greece. Their only hope is for obama to bail them out.
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:47 am
Oscar 8:35 wrong
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Yes, I know. I left out energy from wind.
Brosephus™
November 8th, 2012
8:48 am
Thousands of private industry pensions ( like mine ) have been cut or eliminated . And most tax paying citizens do not have any form of retirement.
So, you’re blaming the government for the private sector workers who rail against unions which led to less worker representation which has led to pensions disappearing along with 401k matches. Quit bitching about what you don’t have and fight for it. Oh wait, you guys champion right to work laws and hate unions.
Talk about dumbassery…. championing rules that limits your ability to fight being screwed by your employer, and then you hate the government for doing what you beg them to do.
Mick
November 8th, 2012
8:49 am
jkl2
Try focusing on the congress, you know the branch that makes laws…your obama hate is passed it’s expiration date 11/7/12…
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:49 am
Tundra – yes, but at what cost?
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If it’s your kid or grandkid, the cost is pretty cheap.
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 8th, 2012
8:50 am
Corbin – gotcha dude. Who were you?
GT
November 8th, 2012
8:51 am
Jm some of that increase is our Georgia Power Company having overruns in the nuclear power plant construction. Here’s hoping the court rules in their favor. I like to see more feet held to the fire in these huge construction sites that even in this time of draught come in well above the bid. When you are good old boying the bidding which I bet has happened here, the economy has no bearing on cost, 99% of the construction people could be out of work and yet the final tally still would come in high like there was a tremendous completive market working against us. I like to see every construction bid that comes in over budget contested in court, even criminally examined. Deal was very fast wanting his lawyers paid for the court cost when someone challenged his conflict of interest and lost, I don’t see that hair trigger on the construction and that land buying scheme in Gainesville with the chicken testing facilities. You wonder why this state goes Republican follow the money, the dirty money, they keep us in the cheap seats with paranoia about things that do not matter while at home they cook away.
DannyX
November 8th, 2012
8:52 am
“No education system, no trained people results in fewer jobs.”
So true, in California the education system is an economic engine. In fact Ronald Reagan had a lot to do with. Those high tech companies that thrive there don’t come out of nowhere, you need an educated workforce. During his first campaign for governor Ronald Reagan promised not to raise taxes. The first thing he did as governor was sign a tax increase to fund their expanding college and university system.
That education system has helped develop the talent that has made California the high tech envy of the world. You are right now, on your computer, using technology that was developed there.
California raised taxes to save that system. Georgia on the other has been slashing education. Just today Georgia State announced another layoff.
bookman parrot
November 8th, 2012
8:52 am
it would be nice to know that BHO and libs respect that same “what is best for the country” … the whole country and not just their “followers”.
i don’t make anything near $250,000 and i will bet my taxes (whether it is new or cancelling Bush tax cut… no sematics) will increase substantially, while stupid spending of gov’t will continue irresponsibly
Oscar
November 8th, 2012
8:52 am
Thousands of private industry pensions ( like mine ) have been cut or eliminated . And most tax paying citizens do not have any form of retirement.
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Most of that is due to global competition. Not the government.
And you, a conservative, want the government to interfere with business and do what.
Paul
November 8th, 2012
8:52 am
Morning, Brosephus.
Nicely said. It’s the schizophrenic view of government we so often see on display here.
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