Boehner: ‘We’re willing to accept new revenue’
It’s a long, torturous road from word to deed, but this could be huge …
“Republicans are “willing to accept new revenue” to tame the soaring national debt and avert an ugly battle over the approaching “fiscal cliff,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday in a speech that offered a potential path to compromise in year-end budget negotiations.
With President Obama reelected and Republicans returned to a slightly smaller majority in the House, Boehner (R-Ohio) said Tuesday’s election amounted to a plea from voters for the parties to lay down their weapons of the past two years and “do what’s best for our country.”
“That is the will of the people. And we answer to them,” Boehner said, according to advance excerpts of a speech he planned to deliver at an afternoon news conference at the Capitol. “For purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we’re willing to accept new revenue, under the right conditions.”
We’ll see what Eric Cantor, Tom Price and Paul Ryan, among other GOP House members, have to say about this. Boehner also repeated his opposition to raising revenue by increasing tax rates, suggesting that he would accept doing so by altering the tax code. But the ice might be breaking.
– Jay Bookman
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Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
7:11 pm
The congress is more blue today, take the hint GOP.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:12 pm
“Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.”
But, but, but he probably went to church
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:14 pm
josef,
Here’s the thing. I would have no problem if Warren claimed ancestry if she actually lived it or actively acknowledged her ancestry with involvment. I see no evidence of this although you say she has been involved in Indian “things”. According to what I’ve read I see zero involvement in Indian “things” and the woman won’t even publicly answer stories about her ancestry. At that point she has no credibility with me. And as I posted her credibility also seems to be lacking with a number of Native Americans. This also is an interesting read on her.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2012/senate/2012/09/15/elizabeth-warren-family-has-mixed-memories-about-heritage/cPMflfaOlndM1jFbimJ4tM/story.html
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:16 pm
Doggone,
And in other words you can’t disprove my assertion. Why am I not surprised?
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
Thulsa
Well if you own any guns, as I do, I would hope you know how to use them.
That was a funny post.
“and we know how to use them”.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
“And in other words you can’t disprove my assertion”
I don’t have to prove anything. YOU made the claim…show your proof. Because *I* am at perfectly liberty to think you are blowing smoke until I see your proof. And I do think you’re blowing smoke. Your attempts to make it look like it’s ME that has prove something is all the PROOF I need.
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
7:18 pm
12 more years
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:19 pm
Doggone,
Did you say something about proof???
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21496/gun-ownership-higher-among-republicans-than-democrats.aspx
Republicans also are more likely than independents or Democrats to say they personally own a gun. About 4 in 10 Republicans (41%) say they own a gun, while 27% of independents and 23% of Democrats say this.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Thulsa
Okay, take the word of one of your “real” Indians. Whenever Unmentionable is asked if he does “Indian (or more often ‘Native American’) things” his answer is, “no. I do things Indian.” Why should she have to answer questions about her ancestry? Do you? And you know what I mean by that.
And since He ne ha is here, are you going to question his “Indianess” because he’s a successful Sea Island country club snob?
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
“Did you say something about proof???”
Personally, I think they overweighted the poll with Republicans.
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
7:20 pm
Well, if you start confiscating guns, then the Hispanics and African Americans can’t shoot each other up anymore?
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:21 pm
The Cherokees and Jews have both always been odd in membership considerations. You can be Cherokee by DNA and yet not recognized as a member. And same with Jews. I worked with a girl whose father was a Jew and she had a Jewish last name. Her mother was an Episcopalian. She couldn’t understand why people thought she was a Jew – could be my last name, she told us one day. Well yes, and maybe your looks.
And Liz Warren is entitled to minority status if the law says she is, which apparently it does.
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
7:22 pm
and another thing. Suppressing the vote, making it generally more of a pain in the ass for your constituents to vote, hitching your wagon to that whole screw-democracy thing… how’d that work out for ya?
moonbat betty
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
Thulsa, difference is some do it legally…
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Here’s the thing. I would have no problem if Warren claimed ancestry if she actually lived it or actively acknowledged her ancestry with involvment”
Here’s the thing, thulsa. Many of us have some Native American ancestry and either don’t know it or don’t achknowledge it. I do, some number of generations back. I don’t actively involve with it, but it’s there. Nothing wrong with claiming it or not. I also have an ancestor who owned slaves, but I sure don’t actively identify with that fact. Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress, but do all the descendants claim him? It’s up to the individual, and I suspect if most of us did some research, we’d find quite a multi-cultural mix.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:24 pm
Oscar
You might want to check with Towncrier on who is a “real Jew”. He seems to be the expert.
Ask JamVet. He diagnosed him as being a “fake Jew”.
Jay
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
As Thomas Paine might observe, a number of summer patriots have passed through here today.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
“Here’s the thing. I would have no problem if Warren claimed ancestry if she actually lived it or actively acknowledged her ancestry with involvment”
While I thought is was a little corny in my opinion, in the end, it really doesn’t matter whether you have an issue or not.
If it upsets you too much, move to Mass and vote against her in 6 yrs.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
“Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress”
Here’s some information you might find interesting. His mistress was not “African” – she was, at most, half-black. She was the half-sister of Jefferson’s dead wife. They had the same father.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:26 pm
From CNN. “The poll also found that 72% of Republicans feel protecting gun ownership is important, while 27% of Democrats feel that way.”
Could it be that the reason Repubs feel so much more strongly about gun ownership is because they are more likely to own one? Ya think???
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/politics/obama-romney-guns/index.html
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:27 pm
RF
How ’bout last night, eh! I been as Maya Angelou would say, “singing and swinging and making merry like Christmas!”
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:27 pm
Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress
____
What is not often stated or know is that Jefferson’s wife and his mistress were half sisters. They had the same father. I’ve always found that interesting.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:28 pm
“Could it be that the reason Repubs feel so much more strongly about gun ownership is because they are more likely to own one?”
Or could it be because they are stupid enough to tell an anonymous pollster that they do? Personally, I prefer the uncertainty that not telling projects.
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:28 pm
@josef and thulsa: don’t make no difference now considering she whooped up on Pretty Boy. I probably shouldn’t say this, but what the heck: Scott Brown, as good-looking as he is, is way too fake and phony. If I were stuck on a deserted island with him, I’d become celibate.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:28 pm
Oscar – you owe me a coke! (Except I prefer Mountain Dew)
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:29 pm
Maybe I’m just upset because my ancestor did not register as a Cherokee and get on the right rolls, and I can’t claim any tribal benefits. How much money do those casinos bring in.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:29 pm
Some on the right claimed Obama was coming to take guns away when he thrashed McCain in 08.
Did anyone get their guns taken away? I remember the NRA selling that story and all it did was drive up the price of guns and ammo. The NRA along with the gun industry laughed at the gullible all the way to the bank.
I expect nothing less this time. Prices will probably run up in the short term, but will level off and come back down.
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:30 pm
““singing and swinging and making merry like Christmas!””
I’ve had to be subdued today, but I made sure I save a couple of cold ones to toast the day yet again!!
Mick
November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
So, florida still doesn’t know who won? Pathetic and all of this mess will be laid at the feet of rick “the disaster” scott, the governor only a mother could love, well that’s not for sure either…
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:28 pm
____
Remind me why I owe you a Coke. Seems to have slipped my mind.
Get Real
November 7th, 2012
7:31 pm
I do not believe a word Obama says, again revenue is not the problem. It will be interesting as we move forward (no pun intended)and perhaps even the MSM will grow weary of covering for him now that the election is over; stranger things could happen in our new 50-50 society…..
clem
November 7th, 2012
7:32 pm
boehner cannot control his house…..gerrymandered districts protect the hard headed. see what happens in statewide senate races….dems did much better and more jobs on the line. accept compromise tpers…..the winning side should have more sway. if prez proposals don’t work you guys get your turn in 4 years.
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
“this mess will be laid at the feet of rick “the disaster” scott, the governor only a mother could love”
And I suspect the voters will remember come his next election. I’d lay bets on his getting trounced when the time comes.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
BOTH
You beat me to it! I was going there. He decided, along with Scout, that I’m a “real Jew.” Why? Because, I guess, I’m interested in “Jewish things.” Am I less so than jewcowboy (also not a “real Jew”) or ZamVet? I make a bigger to-do of it for sure, but that doesn’t make me any more or less a MOT than they.
I’ve said here before that Unmentionable gets his feathers in a ruff over what he calls the “woo-woo people” who insist that Indians are natively possessed of some special spiritualism encoded in the DNA and accessible through some ceremony. He swipes at me during the High Holy Days and Pesach when I become observant. He calls me “a woo-woo Jew!”
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
“Remind me why I owe you a Coke”
7:26 Here’s some information you might find interesting. His mistress was not “African” – she was, at most, half-black. She was the half-sister of Jefferson’s dead wife. They had the same father.
7:27 “What is not often stated or know is that Jefferson’s wife and his mistress were half sisters. They had the same father. I’ve always found that interesting”
hiram
November 7th, 2012
7:34 pm
Georgia is likely to vote Democratic in 2016, and it’s all abstract to Republican peons. The state’s Republican elite (carpet barons, chicken barons, international onion farmers, and their handpicked governor) deserve all of the credit.
NBC’s Chuck Todd examines the nation’s changing demographic, and predicts that in 2016 the Hispanic populations in Georgia, Texas and Arizona are likely to be much larger (andvote Democratic).
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/nightly-news/49734825/#49734745
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:35 pm
“Thomas Jefferson had children by both his white wife and his African mistress, but do all the descendants claim him?”
Not quite sir. There are a couple of historians who believe those children were fathered by Jefferson’s brother who had done quite a bit of philandering with the slave girls and was known to take advantage of them. Its an interesting controversy but we don’t know for sure. The timeline also indicates that Jefferson was out town on business/govt affairs when at least one or more of the kids was fathered.Its interesting stuff.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/true/primer.html
Jeffersons Could Have Been the Father of Eston.
This DNA study testing the Y chromosome found that there was a link to “some” Jefferson, but not necessarily Thomas, having been the father of Eston, Sally Heming’s youngest son. These DNA tests indicated that any one of 8 Jeffersons could have been the father of Eston and there was nothing to indicate it was Thomas. The 8 possibilities identified by the DNA tests are Thomas, Randolph (Jefferson’s brother), Randolph’s 5 sons, and a cousin George and in 5 of Randolph’s sons, who were in their teens or 20s when Sally Hemings was having children. Since no one has ever denied that it was likely that “some” Jefferson fathered at least one of Sally Heming’s children, these recent DNA tests only provide more certainty to what we already knew or suspected. Since the only available DNA evidence comes from direct male lineal descendants of persons who have descended from a common male line with Thomas Jefferson (father, grandfather, etc.), the test is inherently nonspecific. The same Y chromosome existed in Mr. Jefferson’s brother Randolph, who lived 20 miles from Monticello, and in 5 of Randolph’s sons, who were in their teens or 20s when Sally Hemings was having children.
New Woodson DNA Tests.
DNA tests performed on 1 Eston line came up positive, but tests performed originally on 5 Woodson lines in November 1998 came up negative, as did a recent DNA test on a 6th line performed in March 2000. These results should demonstrate beyond any reasonable doubt that Thomas Jefferson was not the father of Tom Woodson. The Woodson DNA tests are important because if Tom Woodson is Sally Heming’s Paris-conceived son and could be shown to have Jefferson DNA, it would then be almost certain that Thomas Jefferson was his father, since Thomas was the only Jefferson in Paris at the time who could have impregnated Sally. Last week the Thomas C. Woodson Family Association declined to attend The Monticello Association’s Annual Business Meeting to be held on Sunday, May 7. The Woodson Family Association’s President, Robert Golden, stated that the care of the Jefferson family cemetery and possible burial there “is not of interest to the Woodson Family Association itself but might be of interest only to specific individuals within the Woodson family.”
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:33 pm
____
I noticed you beat me to the draw on that one. Just put it on my Tab.
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
“He calls me “a woo-woo Jew!””
Just tell him that’s only when he works the spirit-stick the right way….;-).
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
Get Real
If you do not believe anything Obama says, you really need to stop believing in what your favorite right wing pundits and website are saying. See their election predictions as a prime example.
Take care now
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:36 pm
“Or could it be because they are stupid enough to tell an anonymous pollster that they do? Personally, I prefer the uncertainty that not telling projects”
Okay. So polls don’t mean anything. Just like those polls that showed Obama caught up and held an ever so slight lead were inaccurate.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:37 pm
OSCAR
Ah! Somebody who DOES know the history and those rolls… fascinating and untold chapter in Southern history, that one…
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:37 pm
josef
It is comical how serious they are when they make their “jewish” assessments…………. They really believe it or put on a good show.
______________________
Did you see my post earlier about the “In and Out of the Closet” dinner?
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:38 pm
“Just put it on my Tab”
Instead of putting the Tab on you?
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:38 pm
You mean Sally was two-timing Thomas. Say it ain’t so.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:39 pm
Thulsa
It is ok man. I know you thought Romney was surging and indicated as much.
They had to make it seem that there was a contest.
They needed you to watch at least until 9:30.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:40 pm
“Just like those polls that showed Obama caught up and held an ever so slight lead were inaccurate”
And here all this time I thought they were over-weighted with Democrats.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:41 pm
RF
Makin’ whoopie! It’s an Indian thing…
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:42 pm
Doggone
That was the best excuse of them all. Many on the right thought every major pollser, including Rasmussen who used to do polling for Bush, were all incorrect.
That is called desperation and gullibility.
Them damn liberals. They run all the polls and they are for Obama.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:42 pm
BOTH
I caught that one and meant to respond when the post changed…that was rich!
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:43 pm
BOTH: isn’t Dick Morris and his “over-weighted” thing just toooooo funny? That from a man with no neck.
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:44 pm
“Makin’ whoopie! It’s an Indian thing”
And I do soooo love it when Tonto gets that gleam in his eye….
Get Real
November 7th, 2012
7:44 pm
Good Evening Suck
As I said, we live in a 50-50 nation; I saw the vote did you? I just choose to not have my head stuck in my a$$; it tends to impair your viewpoint. You should pull it out every now and then as it might provide you some clarity
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:45 pm
“That was the best excuse of them all”
And now, all of a sudden, they’re dead accurate all the time! Think it’s short-term memory loss, maybe?
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:45 pm
How can you tell a liberal on the blog without reading the post? They’re the ones with the smiley faces..
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:46 pm
Get Real
Don’t be angry at anyone but yourself because you bought into the right wing hype.
Little cloudy today here in the ATL, but the sun will shine again
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:48 pm
RF
Why would anyone follow Dick “McCain will run away with this election” Morris?
He was a hack for Clinton and a hack today, yet many on the right can’t get enough. I give him credit. He can be wrong 1000 times and they come running back each time.
Get Real
November 7th, 2012
7:50 pm
Suck…I have not bought into any hype; but I can do simple math. The debt train will keep on rolling us right over a cliff but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff…it is truly incredible but it is what it is…
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:50 pm
“How can you tell a liberal on the blog without reading the post? They’re the ones with the smiley faces..”
Let’s play Doomy’s game, shall we? It’s a well known fact that progressives have a better sense of humor than conservatives.
And no, Doomy, before you ask…I do NOT have proof.
Reality
November 7th, 2012
7:51 pm
Please allow me to translate the words of these republicans….
“We will agree to additional revenue to help curb the debt crisis. This includes increasing taxes on the middle class and getting rid of all deductions for the middle class such as the home morgage deduction and the medical bills deductions.
In no form or fashion will we agree to increase taxes on the wealthy. This means no increase in their capital gains or on their income for anyone making more than $250,000.”
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:51 pm
“but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff”
got proof?
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:52 pm
Get
Based on Ryan’s own budget, did he care?
Debt must be addressed, but you are fooling yourself if you think the Republican Party is the party of fiscal sanity.
You can argue Democrats have been worse at certain times and I can argue Republicans have been bad as well. However they like your money as well.
So yes, please do the math
Jay
November 7th, 2012
7:53 pm
““but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff”
That’s the latest wording. Heard it on Fox today. They lost because all these people want “free stuff.” It makes them feel morally superior for having lost.
Oscar
November 7th, 2012
7:53 pm
What conservatives don’t understand is that the election was not between cons and liberals, it was between cons and moderates and liberals. There are not that many liberals around. But plentyof moderates.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
7:54 pm
How about a big cheer for us fake Jews!
Us liberal fake Jews, at that!
OK, off to join friends and celebrate this great country and her great people.
Not that I ever need an excuse.
Stay thirsty, my friends…
Hava nagila הבה נגילה Let’s rejoice
Hava nagila הבה נגילה Let’s rejoice
Hava nagila ve-nismeḥa הבה נגילה ונשמחה Let’s rejoice and be happy
Hava neranenah הבה נרננה Let’s sing
Hava neranenah הבה נרננה Let’s sing
Hava neranenah ve-nismeḥa הבה נרננה ונשמחה Let’s sing and be happy
Uru, uru aḥim! !עורו, עורו אחים Awake, awake, brothers!
Uru aḥim be-lev sameaḥ עורו אחים בלב שמח Awake brothers with a happy heart
Uru aḥim, uru aḥim! !עורו אחים, עורו אחים Awake, brothers, awake, brothers!
Be-lev sameaḥ בלב שמח With a happy heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtv5qe5o3c
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:56 pm
“The debt train will keep on rolling us right over a cliff but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff”
No, they’re just realistic enough to realize you have to balance spending cuts with added revenue. They also know you can’t cut tax rates by 20% willy-nilly and they know you can’t write a blank check to DOD that they didn’t even ask for. They know you can’t start unfunded wars that go on for years without end and keep the defense contractors in yachts. They know you can’t pay LIP SERVICE to the middle-class while you let the rich screw them again and again. They see the economy for what it is- consumer driven from the middle out. And when it’s all said and done, they know that ultimately the phrase “promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty” are not mutually exclusive phrases. You can, and we will, do both and live to tell about it.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
7:57 pm
I dedicated Fleetwood Mac’s “Landslide” to our right leaning bloggers last night. Hope you enjoyed it.
The pain will be over soon, but tonight, I dedicate one more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db542C4id5A
RF
November 7th, 2012
7:58 pm
Reality: Until they get their brains out of Norquist’s grips, they’ll never agree to anything sensible in taxation. One of them is going to have to stand up and say, “Grover, you were wrong and I refuse to be controlled by your far-right lunacy.” I’ll be waiting to hear some reasonable facsimile thereof…
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:59 pm
“They know you can’t start unfunded wars ”
I think if I could kill this meme I could die happy. Not unFUNDED…unBUDGETED. The wars were FUNDED with borrowed money that was supplied by off-budget spending bills.
RF
November 7th, 2012
8:01 pm
BOTH: I LOVE that song!!! Heard that on the night of my first official date in high school….that was also the night I realized which team I was really playing for, but that’s another story. Gotta love it when some good 70’s rock fits the bill!
Get Real
November 7th, 2012
8:02 pm
RF
Yes….half the country wants stuff and does not care about debt; you are grossly naive not to think that. At the end of the next four years I shudder to think what this country will look like
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
Jam
And again, congrats on the prediction. You called a “whuppin” months ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCtdKWWfZG8
This song is dedicate to Romney & Ryan……….. must have been tough last night. The right wing media had ran interference for months with hype and distortion. Had people thinking they were going to win, but all day yesterday it was becoming apparent that the witching hour had struck
RF
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
Doggone: you are so right, and I will definitely correct my verbiage for that. They were funded indeed, and we’ll spend the next ten years paying them off…sad.
josef
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
ZamVet
That you should post that one! It was the song in my heart today…
And from Fiddler…
“G-d would like us to be joyful, even when our hearts lie panting on the floor. How much more can we be joyful when there’s really something to be joyful for!”
L’CHAIM
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
8:03 pm
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman.”
– Thomas “Clinton” Jefferson
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
8:04 pm
“half the country wants stuff and does not care about debt”
got proof?
St Simons - he-ne-ha
November 7th, 2012
8:05 pm
Warren should do the War Dance of Remembrance for mr pickuptruck
that would be funny, both from the outside & the inside
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
8:05 pm
“we’ll spend the next ten years paying them off…sad.”
Exactly! If not longer. There is interest on all that money, after all.
Get Real
November 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
Good night La La Land libbies; the next 4 years will be proof, but I do not believe it will take that long
josef
November 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
Hey, “stuff” is what we’re all about…it’s what made this country great…we just need to learn to share out stuff…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
Good night La La Land libbies…
Toodles, princess.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:06 pm
This is what Rove was hearing during is now infamous meltdown last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOEQTJV_3-w
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
http://www.theonion.com/articles/moments-leading-up-to-romneys-concession-most-like,30295/
RF
November 7th, 2012
8:07 pm
“half the country wants stuff and does not care about debt”
Which half was it that ran up such an impossible debt after starting with a balanced budget with some surplus budget money laying around? Let me think… it’s coming to me….guy from Texas that nobody in his party mentions these days… OH that’s right, Dubya!!!!
Republicans pay lip service to debt. The Great Reagan himself raised it disproportionately in his administration, but we don’t dare criticize him do we? Bush the Idiot exploded it with two wars, tax cuts, and a Medicare boondoggle.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
8:08 pm
“the next 4 years will be proof, but I do not believe it will take that long”
Well! I can actually agree with that.
josef
November 7th, 2012
8:10 pm
TORQUEMADA
What’s with this “free stuff” already? I got a brother that get it for you wholesale, though…
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:11 pm
Should have been Obama’s campaign theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk1tT0e4deo
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
8:12 pm
You got proof that we don’t. Cause judging from the frequent posts in the past from liberals about gun loving right wing nuts I think its a fair statement that we have more. Or are those mostly liberals buying up all those weapons at those gun and knife shows? And is it the left or right wing who is very pro 2nd amendment? I think we both know the answers to these questions.
Interesting. Given that I’m always called a Liberal here, I am probably one of the more serious gun nuts on the blog. I’m actually in the market for one or two more too. Maybe I’m not a liberal after all.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
8:13 pm
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/281437/36/Alan-Grayson-back-in-Congress
I hadn’t yet heard this piece of good news. If only we could get Kucinich back too.
Recon 0311 2533
November 7th, 2012
8:14 pm
Lets put this under the scope, Blacks came out heavy for Obama because they see him as well Black. The 18 to 30 crowd came out for Obama because it was hip and cool to be with their peer group “in crowd” and many fell victim to their college prof’s brainwashing. Latino’s came out for Obama because they believe that he will open the borders and there will be amnesty for all. Then of course you have the aging hippies along with the aging hippie wannabee’s, such as what you see on Jay’s blog. The latter is a minor voting block. The Black voting block will have their Black candidate novelty wear off, the youth vote will grow up and become more conservative as they gain wisdom from the natural aging process and Latinos will find a greater bound with their Christian brothers as they assimilate into America. The left has won a significant and long sought victory but it will be short lived as the reality of our declining economy sinks in to all Americans along with the failure of socialism in America becomes apparent to all. I remain optimistic for the return to traditional Americanism which has sustained our greatness for many years. God Bless America.
Granny Godzilla
November 7th, 2012
8:14 pm
Wait
Who says Who will be the speaker in the next house?
Didn’t Cantor want that job?
Will we see a power struggle?
Curiouser and curiouser.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
8:15 pm
ay
November 7th, 2012
7:53 pm
““but half this country simply does not care as long as they get stuff”
That’s the latest wording. Heard it on Fox today. They lost because all these people want “free stuff.” It makes them feel morally superior for having lost.
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Lets hope they continue to feel morally superior for a long long time.
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:15 pm
Romney’s sentiments by 11 o’clock last night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
8:16 pm
“Lets put this under the scope, Blacks came out heavy for Obama because they see him as well Black”
Got proof?
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm
Then again, feeling morally superior seems to be an unshakeable conservative trait, win OR lose..
hiram
November 7th, 2012
8:17 pm
@Jay
You don’t have to bother listening to Rush or the Fox entertainment news channel – you can read their talking points here every day. The problem is that some of them get repeated for months.
Murdoch figured out how to make a lot of money by pretending to be a news channel without incurring the costs of real news channels. They don’t incur the costs of news bureaus or reporters. They just employ a staff to sift through real news and pick out something that they can sensationalize to incite their ignorant audience.
Rush makes even more money – his act consists of sarcastic blubbering about insignificant points to incite the same uninformed audience, with frequent breaks to sell soap suds. As long as they can keep a sufficient number of ignorant listeners lost in their parallel universe, where math, science, and facts aren’t matters of importance, the ad money keeps rolling in.
Granny Godzilla
November 7th, 2012
8:18 pm
Recon
And a large number of grumpy old white guys still want to own somebody else.
You stand where you choose to stand.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
8:19 pm
“Lets put this under the scope, Blacks came out heavy for Obama because they see him as well Black. ”
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Don’t forget that all those whites came out for Obama because they see him as white. Just ask Chris Rock.
Message from the Billionaires to the CONS..."We want our money back"
November 7th, 2012
8:20 pm
Mr. Boehner
Fool us once shame on you….
Fool us twice shame on us….
They BOTH suck
November 7th, 2012
8:20 pm
What Recon was thinking as more and more stats were called for Obama?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jCNXASjzMY&feature=relmfu