Boehner: ‘We’re willing to accept new revenue’
It’s a long, torturous road from word to deed, but this could be huge …
“Republicans are “willing to accept new revenue” to tame the soaring national debt and avert an ugly battle over the approaching “fiscal cliff,” House Speaker John A. Boehner said Wednesday in a speech that offered a potential path to compromise in year-end budget negotiations.
With President Obama reelected and Republicans returned to a slightly smaller majority in the House, Boehner (R-Ohio) said Tuesday’s election amounted to a plea from voters for the parties to lay down their weapons of the past two years and “do what’s best for our country.”
“That is the will of the people. And we answer to them,” Boehner said, according to advance excerpts of a speech he planned to deliver at an afternoon news conference at the Capitol. “For purposes of forging a bipartisan agreement that begins to solve the problem, we’re willing to accept new revenue, under the right conditions.”
We’ll see what Eric Cantor, Tom Price and Paul Ryan, among other GOP House members, have to say about this. Boehner also repeated his opposition to raising revenue by increasing tax rates, suggesting that he would accept doing so by altering the tax code. But the ice might be breaking.
– Jay Bookman
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DannyX
November 7th, 2012
5:33 pm
“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”
What was the tax rate back then?
Logical Dude
November 7th, 2012
5:34 pm
Techron: In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.
So how about we go back to the tax rates back then?
Would you support that?
As a first step?
josef
November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm
ZamVet
…and the gays
…and the Indians
…and the women
…and the Hillibillies
…and the Latinos
well, you get the point…
ad
November 7th, 2012
5:35 pm
Techron- I think you’re thinking of a de Tocqueville quote, not a Jefferson quote. Also, while things were great in the 50’s and 60’s (for the Beaver and Wally), there really wasn’t much competition in the world for American made goods. Europe and Asia were still rebuilding from the war and we were the only game in town, so, yeah, things were different and I don’t think we’re going back.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
5:36 pm
Obama even won Ryans district in WI.
Maybe he will keep his vote getting machine in place for the Congressional elections
ad
November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
You know what really steams me? That Thulsa joke isn’t even original. It’s been around talk radio and the right press for months.
DannyX
November 7th, 2012
5:37 pm
“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”
Btw, lighten up, go to the state of Washington, light one up and get yourself gay married.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
5:38 pm
In the South, all you need is the (R) after your name, and you can win an election.
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/11/dead_man_beat_incumbent_in_bib.html
BIBB COUNTY, Alabama — Like so many others tonight, Alabama State Sen. Cam Ward, R-Alabaster, turned to Twitter to congratulate a candidate he supported who won his race.
In a strange twist, however, Ward noted that candidate — Charles Beasley — died weeks before the Bibb County Commission race he won tonight.
District 1 incumbent Walter Sansing, a Democrat, lost to the Republican Beasley 51.7 percent to 48.3 percent or 917 votes to 858.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
5:40 pm
In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.
Union representation in the work force was 35%
Full benefits provided for employees.
Orange12
November 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
I think I must have died and gone to hell. Four more years of Obama.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 7th, 2012
5:41 pm
With any luck there might be enough lame duck republicans heading out the door to vote for what is best for the country and not how Boehner/Cantor tell them to vote.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
Bro
Don’t blame me.
I only voted in Ga, NC, PA and OH
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
Drones and Black-sites ain’t cheap.
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And obama likes him some drones and black-sites.
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lol
Logical Dude
November 7th, 2012
5:42 pm
Techron. . . were you a driveby or can you answer these questions resulting from your post?
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.
Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
“Techron. . . were you a driveby”
Maybe the name is a clue: http://www.techron.com/
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
5:46 pm
NoCom
I’m thinking that I should have gotten an absentee ballot from home for old time’s sake.
The GOV
November 7th, 2012
5:48 pm
“Ask not what you can do for your country but what you can do for yourself.”
Any lobbyist
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 7th, 2012
5:49 pm
“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”
And higher tax rates.
The GOV
November 7th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.”
Sometimes they had a “picnic” and I’m not joking.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 7th, 2012
5:51 pm
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
5:45 pm
In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.
Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.
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WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.
.
sheeesh
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
5:52 pm
“In the 50s and 60s, we were actually a solid country with a stable financial situation, a strong defense and a stable society with decent moral standards.”
And the space race and a little thing called Nam.
a voice in the wilderness
November 7th, 2012
5:52 pm
ahhh, the good old days…
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
5:53 pm
“Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that”
Nope, just someone who knows the history of the United States
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
5:54 pm
“The march toward the “United States of Greece” will continue……”
____________________________________________________________________
…. to be thwarted by President Obama and the Senate Democrats, as Republicans desperately try to institute an economically destructive austerity on the backs of the middle class and the poor.
(Finished it for you.)
courthouse snitch
November 7th, 2012
5:54 pm
how long before secession talk? the south will rise again!
Matti
November 7th, 2012
5:55 pm
Doggone/GA: “Romney is to blame. Not Paul Ryan and not Grover Norquist. Romney.”
It’s not my place to point fingers (and as long as he goes away, I don’t really care), but I have to wonder what the Republicans were thinking. A year ago, none of them could stand this guy. Heck, Billy Graham didn’t even take him off the cult list until last month! He was so disliked that they entertained an passel of “you gotta be kidding me!” candidates, until each, one by one, self-deported from the race by doing or saying something utterly absurd. Romney was the nominee because he was the last one standing, probably because he (a) doesn’t drink, (b) doesn’t discuss the particulars of his religion, and (c) has more money than Davey Crockett. Ever criticized as a flip-flopper, it was this chameleon ability to say exactly what the current audience wanted to hear that kept his candidacy alive.
If I were a devoted Republican today, I’d be upset with those who hijacked my party so far into right field that running a solid, old-school, Eisenhower-type candidate is no longer an option. (But I’m not so…. YAYYYY!
)
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
5:58 pm
I wonder if Boehnor is moderating because he saw what Obama did in OH.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.
Nope, simply someone who knows history and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers. You would probably know these things if you joined reality and left your little “world” behind.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
Shorter Boehner- “I will do whatever I have to do to keep my job.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
6:02 pm
JAY
The problem is going to be the offset of cuts…particularly if DEMs want to start increased taxes pronto by cuts 10 years down the road…that should be a non-starter for GOP and I couldn’t agree more…any position that puts cuts many years down the road is offensive to taxpayers..or should be..
F. Sinkwich
November 7th, 2012
6:02 pm
It’s fun to see all you free-lunchers wetting panties in anticipation of soaking the evil rich.
You are the majority so you can wreck the economy any way you like.
Go for it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 7th, 2012
6:03 pm
…and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers.
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
November 7th, 2012
6:04 pm
I wonder if Boehnor is moderating because he saw what Obama did in OH.
His district in SW corner is safe for him. If anything offering to compromise could hurt him in his red district.
ad
November 7th, 2012
6:04 pm
The scary thing to any Repub. who works with the Dems to solve the deficit crisis is that, the next time he/she is in a primary back home, the Tea Partiers will run someone to their right. Since so few people vote in these primaries, the hard-core, social conservatives dominate the voting. What is it they say about all it takes for evil to triumph?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
6:05 pm
THOMAS
I understand a set of 4 drones plus support to kill costs about $130 million…
Maybe we put that to the cuts…or buy less….will never happen of course because defense contractors spread an even layer of jam on congress’ bread..
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
6:05 pm
Shorter Eric Cantor (from Byte-me’s 4:34)- “We promise to compromise by agreeing to let Obama do everything our way.”
Logical Dude
November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Matti: but I have to wonder what the Republicans were thinking
Well, the viable candidates were thinking that there was no way to actually defeat Obama, so they are/were deferring to 2016.
Of the candidates that DID run, only Romney was able to even make it a close race. If you thought it was a blow-out yesterday, any of those other candidates would be lucky to get half of Romney’s electoral votes.
Maybe if the media gave Huntsman more coverage, he could have been a more viable candidate, but I didn’t hear enough about him to make a decision on that. It was all about the Fox News Candidates, plus Romney.
I think Romney being the top choice out of those who ran was the best result possible. Alas, the results were as expected.
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
6:07 pm
Any tea party rallies today?
josef
November 7th, 2012
6:08 pm
I’ve always found it interesting that those who long for the last generation (here the 50s and 60s) and excoriate the current generation seem to forget that the state of affairs today are of their own making, their legacy. It there is a failure, and I for one don’t believe there is. then it is their fault. However, when I look back at what the 50s and 60s left for progeny, all-in-all, they did a good job. And so did their children. I’m a baby boomer. When I look at our own kids, as Unmentionable says, “we must’ve done something right.”
But, then, I’m a die-hard optimist and a starry-eyed idealist…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 7th, 2012
6:08 pm
BRO
I bet you $1 that Ron Paul is a brief’s man…”sniffing the crotch.” classic
Kudos…I have no clue what that dude was saying…but it is interesting to consider that dixie democrats had something to do with the invention of the Klan..how things have changed..
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
6:09 pm
Publicly throw Norquist under the bus to advance your credibility.
That’d be a good start.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:09 pm
I understand a set of 4 drones plus support to kill costs about $130 million…
If you use them domestically to attack wedding parties, the costs are much less because you don’t need that much support.
Tundra Dude
November 7th, 2012
6:10 pm
The scary thing to any Repub. who works with the Dems to solve the deficit crisis is that, the next time he/she is in a primary back home, the Tea Partiers will run someone to their right.
Bingo! Nailed it!!
Rabbit
November 7th, 2012
6:10 pm
New revenue, improved health costs, and new economies like those that will emerge from smart strategies like the Preaidents fuel standards initiatives. This is the way back. Education.
Thomas Friedman has written some good books on how to produce our way back from the cliff.
Yes, we’ll have to change Medicare and maybe social security but not drastically.
This country is the birthplace of new ideas. When the formerly robust republican party moves back from being the party of no and embraces the possibilities, we’ll do fine.
Matti
November 7th, 2012
6:11 pm
Logical Dude,
Yes, I can see that. We had Kerry in 04, no chance in heck, and to tell the truth, nobody much liked him either. He’s okay as a Senator I guess, but he was simply not Prez material. Repubs need to understand that the Dems totally know what they’re feeling right now, (been there!!) and yes, this too shall pass.
As for Huntsman, I like him, but he self-deported from the race when he confessed to believing that the Earth is round.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 7th, 2012
6:12 pm
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:01 pm
WTF……………What country was that?
Kenya?
Gotta be a Goverment worker to say something like that.
Nope, simply someone who knows history and doesn’t sniff the crotch of Ron Paul’s dirty boxers. You would probably know these things if you joined reality and left your little “world” behind.
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I know history too.
Somehow I missed the part about whiteys killing black dudes with impunity and pride in the 50’s and 60’s.
i’ll try to refresh myself.
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I do wonder about the death rate of Blacks in Chicago on a typical saturday night though ..or the death rates of blacks in federal prisons on any given day………..in this……..Obamanation……….in 2012.
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I will assure you…………………they good do worse……than the bad ole days.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:13 pm
Stevie Ray
I don’t know if Thomas is the same poster here who was previously known as “jt”. They both share a somewhat disconcerting love for Ron Paul and seem to think we have federalies here in America. I only tease him about the Ron Paul stuff because he seems to have it in for me because of the nature of my employment.
Re the Dixie Democrats: Whenever you have the time, go back and research the political leanings then vs now. When you look back 100 years ago, both parties had their own left and right factions within the party. We have pretty much eliminated that now, and the current parties have very little resemblance to the parties of old.
ad
November 7th, 2012
6:14 pm
Stevie Ray – you make a good point. Almost every cut in spending will be fought by those who benefit from the spending. Kraft came out against cuts in food stamps. I’m sure Lockheed doesn’t want cuts in the production of fighter aircraft. It’s going to take some guys with chutzpuh to pull the trigger on cuts – maybe more than pulling the trigger on increasing some taxes.
josef
November 7th, 2012
6:14 pm
BROSEPHUS
Gotta hand it to Alabama…not only do dead people vote, they elect their own candidates!
Jack
November 7th, 2012
6:15 pm
Dow dipped 300 plus today. Probably Bush’s fault.
F. Sinkwich
November 7th, 2012
6:15 pm
What is in our future? Look west!
“Californians approved a measure Tuesday that raises taxes on the wealthy and hikes the state sales tax.”
O’bozo voters are going orgasmic in CA, hoping to propagate their brand of socialism nationwide. And the majority of this country embraces it.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 7th, 2012
6:17 pm
Bro…………I don’t “have it in for you”.
I only call out nonsense.
Like your following——-
“Yep, those moral standards were so decent that a White man could kill as many Negroes as he wished without fear of being punished. It didn’t matter if he used a gun, rope, or explosives. Hell, the more he killed, the more he was revered.”
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It serves no purpose and only inflames racial animosity.
You should leave that to your boss.
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Good night.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
6:18 pm
josef,
Elizabeth Warren is 1/32nd native American. Do you really believe that entitles her to claim minority status?
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
6:18 pm
Tundra
Here in the Pittsburgh area there were several TPers running against incumbant Democrats.
Each and every one got their ass handed to them LOL
Child, please
November 7th, 2012
6:18 pm
How about bringing up what will happen under the “cliff”. $800 billion a year in spending cuts ($55 billion each from defense and Medicare), increasing the 2% back into FICA, including another 25 million people in the always popular AMT), increasing everyone’s tax rates, increasing tax on dividends to up to 39% from 15% today (the elderly will love that), reduced unemployment benefits, reinstitution of marriage penalty in tax codes. Other tax increases for everyone as well. In other words, ALL THE THINGS THE POLITICIANS SHOULD HAVE THE STONES TO DO ANYWAY. That would balance the budget, while creating a large recession, but it’s past time to be babies about it. Pain for all, sorry, the 1% don’t have enough money to pay 1/10th of the annual deficit if they were taxed at 100%. Time for everyone else to buckle down, stop buying all the beer and cigarettes, personal electronics, cellphones, etc. and live within their means. The upside of the election.
Matti
November 7th, 2012
6:19 pm
Why can’t Lockheed Martin build something we NEED? How about customized planes for those who fight wild fires? How about police helicopters? I’m all for employing smart, capable people. Let’s just pay them for something we need, not stuff we don’t use.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
6:20 pm
Frank
Join Jm and look very far west for your future (like Singapore) LOL
Lord Help Us
November 7th, 2012
6:22 pm
I am not seeing much patriotism from the wingnuts today.
Country first…right?
Dekalb comments
November 7th, 2012
6:24 pm
Where is “Mighty Righty”? I do miss our encounters here on the blog…
As for the stock market drop, this is expected. Had Robme been elected the market would have quieted because the “fix” was in. Immediately upon assuming the Presidency he would have attempted to permanently extend the Bush tax cuts plus place more for the rich. But he still would have had the little problem of the Democratically-controlled Senate.
The market is justifiably nervous. Hopefully the President that was re-elected and the lame-duck Congressional members will act to avoid the fiscal cliff. If not, this was the Republican’s “baby” and so they should be plastered with it forever.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Somehow I missed the part about whiteys killing black dudes with impunity and pride in the 50’s and 60’s.
i’ll try to refresh myself.
Lemme help you out a bit…
http://mshistory.k12.ms.us/articles/62/the-civil-rights-movement-in-mississippi-on-violence-and-nonviolence
In 1955, Reverend George Lee, vice president of the Regional Council of Negro Leadership and NAACP worker, was shot in the face and killed for urging blacks in the Mississippi Delta to vote. Although eyewitnesses saw a carload of whites drive by and shoot into Lee’s automobile, the authorities failed to charge anyone. Governor Hugh White refused requests to send investigators to Belzoni, Mississippi, where the murder occurred.
In August 1955, Lamar Smith, sixty-three-year-old farmer and World War II veteran, was shot in cold blood on the crowded courthouse lawn in Brookhaven, Mississippi, for urging blacks to vote. In Local People, John Dittmer writes “although the sheriff saw a white man leaving the scene ‘with blood all over him’ no one admitted to having witnessed the shooting” and “the killer went free.”
On September 25, 1961, farmer Herbert Lee was shot and killed in Liberty, Mississippi, by E.H. Hurst, a member of the Mississippi State Legislature. Hurst murdered Lee because of his participation in the voter registration campaign sweeping through southwest Mississippi. Authorities never charged him with the crime. According to Charles Payne in his book, I’ve Got the Light of Freedom, “black witnesses had been pressured by the sheriff and others to testify that Lee tried to hit Hurst with a tire tool. They testified as ordered. Hurst was acquitted by a coroner’s jury, held in a room full of armed white men, the same day as the killing. Hurst never spent a night in jail.”
NAACP State Director Medgar Evers was gunned down in 1963 in his Jackson driveway by rifle-wielding white Citizens Council member Byron De La Beckwith from Greenwood, Mississippi.
Do you recall James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner? What about Emmitt Till?
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/282379
There’s another article to help you out.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
6:26 pm
Bro
Who was that nutster here a while back that said if Obama won he was going to pack all his guns and kids in his plane and fly south?
If you remember where he said he was going you might warn immigration
Don Abernethy
November 7th, 2012
6:28 pm
With our country full of the type if people who voted for Obama I don’t want to live here any longer and I have NO respect for Obama supporters and hope I never have to associate with any of them.I have nothing in common with them.
ad
November 7th, 2012
6:29 pm
matti – no matter what Lockheed builds, somebody has got to buy it. If it’s the gov., then it costs money. I’m not against Lockheed buiding products with non-military uses, but who is the customer? Gov. cuts in spending, even for those so-called Obama phones, will hurt some people – and not just the poor. Of course, if we keep adding to the deficit past a certain point, more and more of the tax collected goes to pay interest on the debt. Then we have no money to spend and won’t be able to borrow from anyone (read China). So, we’ve got to bite the bullet sometime and I hope the Repubs and Dems can work this out.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
6:30 pm
“With our country full of the type if people who voted for Obama I don’t want to live here any longer ”
Here’s your hat…don’t linger
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:30 pm
Bro…………I don’t “have it in for you”.
I only call out nonsense.
Give me an effin’ break. You can’t respond to me without some snide remark about the government or something. So pardon me if I call bullsh*t on your so called nonsense. When you decide to show respect or decorum, I’ll return it to you. Initially, I tried to be respectful in my responses towards you, but your repeated digs about my employment caused me to lose any respect or decorum towards you.
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josef
Can’t nobody do it quite like we do in the Yellowhammer State. We believe in equal representation of ALL voters, the dead included.
josef
November 7th, 2012
6:31 pm
THULSA
That is the same blood quantum as the current Chief Executive of the Cherokee Nation. The Cherokee are not now, nor have they ever been, self-defined in terms of blood quantum. You can be as blonde and blue-eyed as a Sveeed or black as the ace of spades and still be Cherokee. It’s way too complicated to go into here with the limited space and forum. There is Cherokee Nation citizenship, determined by a Dawes Roll ancestor, and there is the Cherokee people, determined by identity with the culture. Neither is blood quantum. There are full bloods who are not citizens. There are those with far less quantum than your 1/32 who speak the language with native fluency and are recognized for their contributions to the continuance of the cultural identity and heritage.
And what do you mean by “minority status?” Define that for me, and I may be able to better answer your question.
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
6:31 pm
When do we get to start confiscating guns and building concentration camps for the conservatives? Didn’t they insist Obama was waiting for his second term to follow through with these evil plans? If it doesn’t start by the end of January, I’m gonna be pissed.
roswell mom
November 7th, 2012
6:33 pm
saywhat? don’t forget reparations
saywhat?
November 7th, 2012
6:34 pm
Don Abernethy- “With our country full of the type if people who voted for Obama I don’t want to live here any longer and I have NO respect for Obama supporters and hope I never have to associate with any of them.I have nothing in common with them.”
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I can’t imagine any of them will be sad to see you go. Leave and the national IQ goes up and the syphilis rate goes down. Loser.
Brosephus™
November 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
NoCom
I don’t remember who it was. As long as they have the proper paperwork, traveling with firearms isn’t a problem leaving. If he doesn’t declare them upon arrival in whatever country he lands, he’ll probably end up crying to the State Dept to come bail his ass out.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
6:35 pm
“When do we get to start confiscating guns ”
I think we should wait until after Christmas…let ‘em get all those guns as presents and then we’ll have even more to confiscate!
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
6:36 pm
saywhat?
When do we get to start confiscating guns and building concentration camps for the conservatives? Didn’t they insist Obama was waiting for his second term to follow through with these evil plans? If it doesn’t start by the end of January, I’m gonna be pissed.
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More like concentration daycares the way they whine
jconservative
November 7th, 2012
6:39 pm
The Bush/Obama tax cuts expire midnight 12/31/12. No one has to vote on anything or even lift a finger. They will expire.
Sequestration will begin 1/2/2013 and no one has to vote on anything or even lift a finger. It will happen.
Now both sides say they do not want all of either action to take place. That is what they say. But as we sat, talk is cheap.
To prevent both from happening the two sides can sit down and work out a deal. “You scratch my back, I’ll scratch your back.” But do both really want a deal? If they do, they will work out a deal.
Say: You get all the Bush tax cuts but over $500K,
we close all the listed loopholes,
you get sequestration cancelled,
we cut spending $4 trillion
you throw in the Dream Act.
josef
November 7th, 2012
6:40 pm
Don Abernathy
“I have nothing in common with them.”
For which, no doubt, the homo sapiens are somewhat grateful.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
6:42 pm
“And what do you mean by “minority status?” Define that for me, and I may be able to better answer your question.”
josef,
By minority status I mean using native American on job applications to try and gain an advantage as she did. To me minority status should be given to those who suffer a disadvantage possibly due to discrimination towards their minority status. In my view that woman does not qualify by that standard.
And as some Native Americans have pointed out it would be one thing to be 1/32nd and be actively involved in your native ancestry- thus at least affirming your native ancestry. But apparently this woman doesn’t know anything more about native Americans then the average joe blow white guy.She just knows enough to put it on a job application to gain an advantage and that to me is shameful.
And if you’re going to criticize me for the view that she tried to gain advantage from claiming minority status then I better just get in line cause apparently there are a lot of Native Americans who resent her far more than myself.
http://www.mercurynews.com/politics-national/2012/09/elizabeth-warren-what-native-americans-have-said-about-controversy/
Jm
November 7th, 2012
6:43 pm
Lord ain’t from round these parts.
“Country first…right?”
No.
God, family, country. In that order.
But yes, excluding those first 2 items if one doesn’t understand counting, yes country comes first.
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
6:45 pm
My suggestion is that all the numbnuts planning on leaving the country start a website so you can all go at once and SOON..
Take your guns for the takeover of that country then run it the way YOU FLIPPEN WANT TO.
The voters have spoken here so either leave or STFU
The GOV
November 7th, 2012
6:46 pm
“I will assure you…………………they good do worse……than the bad ole days.”
Hopefully this is a typo or poor spelling/phrasing. Otherwise, go back to the rally.
Tealiban Party
November 7th, 2012
6:47 pm
I’m still looking for Kayaker y’all. Kayaker, come out come out wherever you are….
kayaker 71
October 30th, 2012
4:20 pm
Romney…. 320. Bozo…. 218. Count on it.
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
6:47 pm
“When do we get to start confiscating guns”
Good luck with that. There are more of us with guns than you. And we know how to use them.
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
6:48 pm
“There are more of us with guns than you”
Got proof of that?
St Simons
November 7th, 2012
6:49 pm
nice ‘dead pig’ reference, josef. Zoooom
josef
November 7th, 2012
6:51 pm
THULSA
She has been involved in Indian “things.” She could not receive any special consideration since she does not have a CDIB card. Indians are the ONLY minority group in America who have to “prove it.” And. you betcha there are Indians who take issue with her. If you know anything about Indian Country, you know that the conflicts between the various nations are often stronger than the conflicts with the non Indigenous. Just among the Choctaw, the conflict between the Mississippi Band and the Oklahoma Nation can get dicey big time. Same with the Creek east of the River and those in the West. There is a tremendous amount of animosity toward the Five Civilized Nations and others due to the success that the latter have achieved in matters of acculturation, socio-economic and educational advancement, etc.
JamVet
November 7th, 2012
6:54 pm
…I don’t want to live here any longer…
Don, I’ve heard that Teheran is beautiful this time of year!
Jm
November 7th, 2012
6:55 pm
Warren is a holier than thou do gooder
Not toy likely
Not a practical person at all
Neither is Obama
4 more years
Of gridlock
ad
November 7th, 2012
6:56 pm
I see Ole Miss is keeping up their image. I guess they can drop the Black Bears and go back to being Rebels now.
Peter
November 7th, 2012
6:57 pm
Here is something Funny for all to read………..
Republican senator Lindsey Graham’s remark that there weren’t enough “angry white guys” to bring Republicans to power seemed prophetic in the light of President Barack Obama’s victory.
A decline in the number of white voters and a surge in voters from ethnic minorities and women helped Obama on election night. Ohio, one of the key battleground states, was captured in part through a rise in turnout among African-Americans, who voted overwhelmingly for Obama.
Back in August, Graham had said: “The demographics race we’re losing badly. We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”
The real truth is……… there are plenty of Angy White Guys…….but they are angry at the Republican’s who refuse to do something in the senate…. and are still angry how the Bush Administration Bilked the country and almost caused a second great depression.
Republican’s need to WAKE UP !
Jm
November 7th, 2012
6:58 pm
Don
There are good jobs overseas available
Check them out
They can be hard to get though
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
7:00 pm
McConnell is a failure as a senator and a repub.
RAMZAD
November 7th, 2012
7:01 pm
Republicans had always believed that the way to good government was to:
1 Give tax cuts to the rich.
2 Give more welfare to corporations.
3 Take welfare and healthcare from the poor.
4 Cut our way to prosperity.
5. Blame the snafus on blacks, Mexicans, gays, lesbians and Moslems
Clearly those philosophies are dead, and maybe the whole Republican thing is toast.
Dekalb comments
November 7th, 2012
7:01 pm
Jm….suggest you take a bath in Epsom salts and go to bed.
The PEOPLE have spoken and this is the way it is. We really don’t need your commentary. Warren is extremely practical – protecting you and me from the fucks on Wall Street. Obama has done more in one term than GWB could have done in 10 terms… Well, no, I’m wrong on that point. Obama couldn’t allow the worst terrorist attack on our soil happen on his watch. Only Republicans could do that.
Sounds like Reid is getting a backbone and the new Senate rules will not permit the sniveling republics to block every bill. Yes in the House we have the do nothings. Oh well….hopefully by 2014 the American people will realize the pukes need to go away permanently.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:02 pm
Okay, a family story…
My brother had an electrical engineering firm. The firm had a fairly good size number of employees. They were bidding on a nice little contract in Indian country. They were required to have x number of Indian employees. My sister in law was the personnel director. She was pulling her hair out trying to meet the criteria. She was talking to her Mama in Tulsa and was bewailing the fact that all she needed was one more. Her Mama says, “well, have you put yourself down?” MA, who if you asked her would have said she was Cherokee, but that would have been about it. She told her Mama that she couldn’t because it required a CDIB card. Her Mama laughed, “silly, you’ve got one! Call such and such and get your copy of it.” See, MA had grown up in California, far removed from the rez and had never given it that much thought and had always considered Mama’s “Indian thing” somewhat archaic…and yet, is she an Indian…well, according to the White and Black Man’s definition, yep.
Their own kids? One more or less went back to the rez and the other not so much identified though, if you just looked at her, she would “pass” for a full blood. They both have CDIB cards, but how “Indian” are they…?
Common Sense isn't very Common
November 7th, 2012
7:03 pm
Jm
There are good jobs overseas for tough guy bloggers
Thulsa Doom
November 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
Doggone,
You got proof that we don’t. Cause judging from the frequent posts in the past from liberals about gun loving right wing nuts I think its a fair statement that we have more. Or are those mostly liberals buying up all those weapons at those gun and knife shows? And is it the left or right wing who is very pro 2nd amendment? I think we both know the answers to these questions.
josef
November 7th, 2012
7:05 pm
ad
Yeah, I knew that one was coming! Embarrassing, for sure, but there were only a few dozen of them, about the same number as on the blog here…
And for the record, they’re the REBEL Black Bears!
stands for decibels
November 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
of all the things for a Gooper to be butthurt about, I got to hand it to Doomy for finding the silliest imaginable.
the Indian thing? mein Gott, that fixation is probably what lost that Senate seat. her opponent went from being well liked to coming off like some racist prick.
Jefferson
November 7th, 2012
7:08 pm
We didn’t have a spending problem until we starting cutting taxes. Much of the deficit is owed to Americans not China.
Mick
November 7th, 2012
7:09 pm
sink
I wonder how we ever survived the vaunted 50’s when the tax rate on the rich was more than double what it is now. You and your ilk need to stop walking behind them and picking up their poop – it stinks…
Doggone/GA
November 7th, 2012
7:09 pm
“You got proof that we don’t”
In other words: NO, you don’t have proof. I’m not a bit surprised.