The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses

What happens when a lie goes astray?

You may recall the right wing’s hysteria last week over the way that events had supposedly played out in Benghazi, Libya. Stoked by inflammatory, deeply irresponsible misreporting on Fox News, they insisted that this scandal was bigger than Watergate, and that for his cowardice President Obama would be disgraced as commander in chief and impeached and removed from office should he win a second term.

Oh, they were in fine, fine form, braying like so many hounds certain they have finally treed the fox.

President Obama, we were told, had AC-130 gunships within an hour of Benghazi but refused to use them to try to intervene on behalf of his ambassador. We had Special Forces units ready to go just two hours away, at Sigonella Air Base in Sicily, but a cowardly Obama again barred a rescue operation, fearful that it might endanger his re-election if it went astray.

And twice — TWICE!!! — former SEALs at a nearby CIA compound had requested permission to intervene in the assault on the U.S. consulate, but twice they had been ordered to stand down and do nothing. Finally, the ex-SEALS defied orders from Washington, made their way to the consulate and rescued some of their fellow Americans. Obama, in contrast, was ready to just let them all die.

Fox News also reported that upon returning to the CIA annex, those same ex-SEALs had “lasered” a mortar targeting their position in hopes that an AC-130 would arrive to take it out, but again no help came. That same mortar later killed two of those ex-SEALs.

But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, and in all its details, that story has proved to be false.

– There were no orders from the CIA or anyone else to stand down. According to a CIA timeline released last week, once those at the CIA annex learned that the nearby consulate was under attack, an ad hoc rescue mission was quickly put together and launched within 25 minutes.

– As Pentagon spokesman George Little described it Friday, “there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night. The closest gunship was in Afghanistan, some 2,500 miles away. The two surveillance drones that eventually reached the scene in Benghazi also had to be reassigned from elsewhere; neither was armed.

– Contrary to the Fox report, there were no Special Forces units available for insertion into the situation. Soon after word of the attack reached Washington, a special ops team was scrambled from a training facility somewhere in Central Europe — some sources have reported Croatia — and transported to Sigonella.

In addition, a second special ops unit was immediately alerted and transported from a military base here in the United States to Sigonella, as an option should a hostage situation develop. In other words, major preparations were underway to provide a military option should the opportunity arise to use it.

But as Little put it last week, the units “did not arrive until after the entire sequence of events was complete. … They were in Sigonella many hours after the attacks.” Two platoons of specially trained Marines had also been hustled to Sigonella, but again too late for intervention.

– Finally, there had been no “lasering” of the mortar position used to attack the CIA annex in the second phase of the assault. (That second phase occurred more than seven hours after the attack on the consulate had ended). There was no reason to use a laser in that fashion — the SEALs knew they had no air cover to intervene — and more importantly, no opportunity to do so.

According to the CIA, its personnel at the annex were not even aware that the mortars existed until mortar shells began falling on their position; from beginning to end, the deadly mortar attack lasted all of 11 minutes.

In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong-headed. No facts exist to justify the overheated rhetoric and allegations directed at Obama and top officials in his administration, but no apologies will follow either. Quite the contrary, I’m sure.

– Jay Bookman

749 comments Add your comment

Hell-bent

November 5th, 2012
8:50 am

Of course it did! You try to use your propaganda platform to stir up the uneducated with all kinds of lies, what do you think will happen? The sad part is, that the dumb people who hear it actually believe it ’cause they heard it on Faux Noise.

Back in the USSA

November 5th, 2012
8:50 am

First. You go Jay, tell ‘em. Tomorrow’s the big day. We won’t be worried ’bout Barry ‘cept for his lame duck, pardonin’ felon, implimentin’ the last vestiges of Communism days until January. Go Mittens.

Back in the USSA

November 5th, 2012
8:51 am

Oops….second.

Back in the USSA

November 5th, 2012
8:51 am

& 3rd, and 4th…

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
8:52 am

In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly

no. that last word is incorrect. You have to have a sense of shame in order to be embarrassed, and FoxNewers simply don’t.

They’ll be back with more fact-free crap in the days ahead. (They are still peddling an extremely suspect “Noble, Selfless Alabama Power Utility Volunteers Turned Away by Evil Union Thugs” story on their homepage, I see.)

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:53 am

Fox news jumps the shark again…

Their viewers, however, do not care and now anxiously await the next wild goose chase…

However, despite being led about by the rings in their noses again, they will feel ‘victimized’ by the ‘liberal MSM’ and certain, CERTAIN I say, that despite this whole thing being completely overblown and misrepresented…that’s okay, cuz Obama is an American hating, socialist, Muslim, Kenyan that attended Rev Wright’s racist Christian church for 20 years…

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:53 am

Sock puppets coming out early…must be worried…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am

I posted the CIA story to my Benghazi-addled friends … they’re saying that the CIA is lying to protect the WH and it’s all just a CYA exercise.

you want to talk about “can’t handle the truth”? FOX viewers definitely can’t.

Aquagirl

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am

Oh, our armchair special ops warriors were mistaken? We’re not awash in these manly-men and big guns that deploy just like our con experts fantasize at night in the privacy of their beds?

Nah, it’s a coverup.

Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am

Someone died and Obama lied. THAT IS A FACT!

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:55 am

But, Amb. Stevens was sodomized!

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am

y’see…

I have a cow orker whose browser homepage is set to FoxNews. I only learned this last week, but it really does explain a lot, as to why this person seems to operate in a parallel universe when discussing some of the most mundane-imaginable things. I am reminded of a discussion some months ago regarding some minor change to flex-plan medical benefits coverage; this person was so angry you’d think a coronary might be in the offing. Of course now I realize it’s because OSAMAKKKARE was surely to blame.

That’s embarrassing to me to behold, and if that’s what Jay meant earlier I stand corrected for my post @ 8.52.

beachmom

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am

Thanks for the reality check, Jay. The second one will be tomorrow night/early Wednesday morning for Fox News viewers.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am

“Someone died and Obama lied. THAT IS A FACT!”

um

no.

that’s the point.

Reading is Fundamental.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:57 am

“But, Amb. Stevens was sodomized!”

sort of tells you what the FOX folks daydream about …

East Lake Ira

November 5th, 2012
8:57 am

Less than 36 hours to go… Can we quit Mitt then?

larry

November 5th, 2012
8:58 am

Remember when the term “yellow journalism” used to be relevant?

Thats why i always compare Fox News to the National Inquirer, they sometimes get a news story right every once in a while.

I’m actually suprised that someone hasnt sued Fox News for the lies they have told throughout the years. Like they have sued the National Inquirer.

Doggone/GA

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am

“what do you think will happen?”

I think the better question is: what do they WANT to happen? IMO, they probably want to scare people into not voting for Obama…and they probably succeeded with a lot of voters.

Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am

USIN….No, it is a fact. Even the president accidently admitted that he knew about it before the claimed he had earlier. HIS OWN WORDS!

Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am

If the white turnout increases on Election Day, it will be very difficult for the president to win. If it decreases, it will be very difficult for him to lose. Rasmussen Reports currently estimates that white turnout will be similar to the 2008 totals. Black voters, however, are far more likely to have voted already than any other segment of the electorate.

East Lake Ira

November 5th, 2012
9:00 am

Articles of Impeachment are ready and waiting for Obama once he wins.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:00 am

‘ HIS OWN WORDS!’

Really? Where?

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am

Fox News and the Romney campaign …………………..

WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN’ FACTCHECKERS!!!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am

“No, it is a fact. Even the president accidently admitted that he knew about it before the claimed he had earlier. HIS OWN WORDS!”

yay!!!

I’ll play!!!

please show your work and provide a quote.

Doggone/GA

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am

“Reading is Fundamental”

And reading comprehension is essential

independent thinker

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am

Really Jay – Fox News lied??? Shocks me to my core. Mittens lied – never! Ryan a good Catholic boy lied? can’t be. This is all a bunch of Malarkey made up by the left wing media.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
9:02 am

Well, we’ll think of something else. Anyway, the election is tomorrow so there’s no big hurry to come up with something right away. After tomorrow it won’t matter anyhow.

Have a good Monday everybody. It sure is nippy out here. I hope a big fire breaks out in your comfy offices. It will serve you right. Not that I’m resentful or anything.

Marty Huggins'

November 5th, 2012
9:03 am

Because if there is one thing we can all rest easy about its that the CIA always and I mean always tells us the American citizens the truth about everything.

Anyway,

I was never really worried about the incident itself.
More about who told Rice and Carney to mislead the American public for days if not weeks after the initial attack.

Jay you easily cast Fox News as liars.
How much consideration if any have you given about those intentional deceptions and conflicting stories broadcast by mouthpieces of the administration?

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:03 am

If the white turnout increases on Election Day, it will be very difficult for the president to win. If it decreases………..

Just a gut feeling i have, I think, on the Presidential side, the race in Georgia will be too close to call for most of the night come Tuesday. I may be wrong, but its just a gut feeling i have.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am

Independent – 9:01 – word.

Lee

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am

larry…I respect you opinion but there has been no data to show that Obama has any sort of chance of winning Georgia. Ohio and Florida are the key factors and I believe Romney will take both.

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am

Amazing fox opionion news are only as low as their viewers, we lost 3500 Americans 911 on our own soil, never did you see fox and idiots continue to dig in the truth on those attacks.

Obama has kept these right wing idiots safe for 4 years without any threats to Americans, we lost 4 during his whole term, yet the last administration lost 3500 and the nut jobs are quiet, these people are why people around the world label white conservatives as racist and bigots.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am

All this by Jay this morning might be true. But, the guy and three others are dead, and you can’t write that away. He asked for more protection prior to his death. You can’t write that away. On the Anniversary of 9/11 in a hostile Muslim country to US policy, he was left with downsized protection. you can’t write that away. He was murdered under Obama’s command, and you can’t write that away. Spin it all you want. The four men are dead. Write that away.

DawgDad

November 5th, 2012
9:06 am

OK, you sad leftist shills — explain what I saw at the memorial service, with Hillary proclaiming it was all about a video. Explain Susan Rice. Explain why that compound was there in the first place, in the middle of what is essentially a war zone where the host nation government is not in control.You cannot, with any shred of credibility.

straitroad

November 5th, 2012
9:06 am

You are reporting from planet Jay and appear innately incapable of objectivity. Not to worry though, your president will exact revenge on his fellow Americans. Ah, the perils of going off prompter…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 5th, 2012
9:06 am

May I suggest some light reading on SEDITION.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Sedition_Act.aspx

Lee

November 5th, 2012
9:06 am

I guess some of you didnt watch the last debate when the President slipped up and got called out for saying that he knew about Benghazi and was talking in the rose garden about the incident. I am sure you guys have a hard time remembering that.

Jeffrey

November 5th, 2012
9:07 am

I’ve said it before, you have to be afraid of something to watch fox news. Muslims, gays, immigrants, govt, hurricanes. It doesn’t matter what you are afraid of they’ve got you covered.

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 5th, 2012
9:08 am

I just hope there are no ‘issues’ on election day as in 2000. Let’s all hope that one side has a clear win however small. Then let’s move on regardless of who is the winner.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:09 am

‘I am sure you guys have a hard time remembering that.’

You must be having a hard time backing up your lie…

indigo

November 5th, 2012
9:09 am

“deeply irresponsible”

That’s just a polite way of saying “flat out lying”, which is precisely what we’ve come to expect from Big Business owned Republican toadies who do and say what they’re told, when they’re told. Big Business CEO’s will stop at nothing to get Romney elected because, if that happens, they will smile and talk with confidence about “our man in the Oval Office”

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:09 am

Blacks and Latinos have broken records on early voting in Georgia and Fla. Ohio more then 2008, what happen to Obama supportors not being excited by fox and idiots?

Mike

November 5th, 2012
9:10 am

So, the same CIA that works under the current Adm. says “this is what really happened” several weeks after the fact, and you believe it?

John

November 5th, 2012
9:10 am

Bookman, there really is no other way to say this. You are a jackass. I’m sure if Obama led the Jews to the gas chambers, you’d still support him. You, sir have no credibility or any brains.

DannyX

November 5th, 2012
9:11 am

Jay, this is like the birther hysteria a few years back. Remember when you asked people not to comment on the birther issue because it was so ridiculous? Well, the whole birther issue ended up taking on a life of its own and became overwhelming to the point where the Fox News fantasy couldn’t be ignored. These same people are creating another hysterical myth with Benghazi. They will ignore common sense and the facts to feed their rage. There is no stopping them. Fox News knows how easily manipulated their viewers are, and their viewers happily follow along.

Ironically the Bengahzi bump that Fox News thought would go to Romney has gone to Obama. Fox News tried to manufacture an October surprise and it backfired.

The Truth

November 5th, 2012
9:11 am

Obama killed my son. Words spoken by the father of one of the Seals that died.

bookman parrot

November 5th, 2012
9:12 am

that darn Fox, trying to have Mr. Untransparent, finally be transparent as he said he would, but never had any intention of abiding by. kinda like a full fledged LIAR.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:12 am

‘I’m sure if Obama led the Jews to the gas chambers, you’d still support him. ‘

The head exploding has already begun…

Lee

November 5th, 2012
9:13 am

DawgDad

November 5th, 2012
9:13 am

“These same people are creating another hysterical myth with Benghazi.”

The lies put forth by Hillary and Susan Rice are no myth. Sorry for the inconvenience of facts.

Fly-On-The-Wall

November 5th, 2012
9:13 am

John at 9:10 – that sir was way over the top. You should be banned from any an all blogs for comments like that. But so you don’t scream 1st Amendment rights, you should at least be timed out.

Mick

November 5th, 2012
9:14 am

**He was murdered under Obama’s command, and you can’t write that away**

Poor choice of words, so, yes we can WRITE that away…

Cosby

November 5th, 2012
9:14 am

the problem is the way the USA is preceived…we are weak! There was signs that protection and military show of force was needed but as usual, the annoited one chose not to engage…to busy building his celebraty status among the illerate masses / voters. That tingly feeling down the leg again!

Mr Right

November 5th, 2012
9:14 am

No matter which candidate wins Tuesday, it’s clear the media didn’t just cover this election, they shaped it. To paraphrase Dickens, it was the best of coverage and the worst of coverage.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:15 am

Are their any prominent members of the GOP that have criticized the gross incompetence of Fox’s ‘reporting’ on this?

GoodScout

November 5th, 2012
9:15 am

You don’t get it. They don’t care. Their model is trumpet the lie, embed it in the brains of the simple-minded (a growing demographic in this country, sadly) and then by the time the truth catches up to point out the utter fallacy of what they’ve been saying, they’re already on to the next Big Lie. They don’t care that you, or the fact-checkers prove them wrong. Their model works. How do you think a party that empowered rich, predatory Wall Street plutocrats to destroy this country can nominate a rich, predatory Wall Street plutocrat and he can get 48%-plus of the nation’s votes!

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:15 am

Obama’s Time is up tomorrow.What a Waste of 4 years. This Regime from the Top allowed our People to be Murdered and left them to die because of the firestorm it would have created Internationally. Jay Bookman is a Total Liberal Loser. Your Time is up too. Romney/Ryan.Landslide.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:16 am

Ah back to work lib-turds…..or in the case of the frequent posters on here, back to stealing from your employer while you feverishly post something no one cares about on Jay’s blog. Berating the number ! news channel in the US is not going to change anything.

Georgia “too close to call”…now that there is funny stuff and a sure sign of the need for IQ tests in order to vote.

Mick

November 5th, 2012
9:16 am

We are perceived to be so weak that….we killed bin laden! Yes, that surely was an act of weakness if there ever was one…

Jay

November 5th, 2012
9:16 am

Thanks, John, for your willingness to debate issues in a rational, fact-based manner….

Geez.

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:17 am

Blacks and Latinos have broken records on early voting in Georgia and Fla. Ohio more then 2008

That’s the reason why i have a gut feeling that Ga. will too close to call for most of the night Tuesday.
Plus the fact that most people do not trust Romney , or will not vote for him because of religous purposes ( Mormonism is a ” cult” ). Do not assume that white voters automatically voted for Romney. The day i voted, a couple had to remove their Gary Johnson for President caps, so i think Johnson may eat into Romney’s vote totals.

Romney may still win the state, but i think it will be closer than people think.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:17 am

‘the annoited one chose not to engage…’

No. Fox lied to you…deal with it.

clem

November 5th, 2012
9:17 am

99.9% of faux folks would wet themselves if they had to make these war decisions….that is the ones with brains

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:17 am

“I guess some of you didnt watch the last debate when the President slipped up and got called out for saying that he knew about Benghazi and was talking in the rose garden about the incident. I am sure you guys have a hard time remembering that.”

so, that should make it extra-extra easy to find the quote …

we’re waiting …

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

Instead of fox and bigots showing benefit concert for hurrican victims hannity and scum bags spent hours bashing Obama, fox and scum and their low IQ viewers care less about other Americans until a storm destroys their homes and trailers, only then we these hypocrites call upon Gov and Femma.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

Golly…I can see the righties are unhappy that President Obama
missed what they saw as an opportunity to drop some bombs on human beings.

Isn’t that just too too special!

Shirley McGuire

November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

This President is covering something up. He lies to the American people and the media should be ashamed to be a part of this insult. Americans died in Benghazi because the president didn’t give them the security they needed and asked for AND refused to go to their aid as they were being killed. This information should be on every news channel and in every newspaper around the United States BEFORE the election. If you want this man to lead you for the next four years vote for him. As for me, I’ll take Mitt Romney any day AND Fox News. At least they don’t cower down when it comes to telling the truth!

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

‘This Regime from the Top allowed our People to be Murdered and left them to die because of the firestorm it would have created Internationally. ‘

No. Fox lied to you…deal with it.

straitroad

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

You guys just cannot stand the fact that every news organization isn’t in the tank for your Lord O. There are those of you on the left that are more concerned about re-writing history in favor of obama than you are about the four who were killed.

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

DannyX and Granny Godzilla are total Losers. Get some fresh air and get that Liberal chip off your shoulder. All that hate and nonsense you carry around is not healthy. Envy is a sin btw….Enjoy your American Idol President being defeated tomorrow. Have a Nice day.

TBone

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

Some folks are willing to accept any amount of incompetence by the Obasma regime for the sake of what? Americans dying evidently don’t rank up there but a half-assed robbery of a donor list by a paranoid republican is treason. Can’t wait for tomorrow unless the hoodlums steal this election.

Grasshopper

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

It was the video’s fault!

It was the video’s fault!

It was the video’s fault!

bulls_3y3

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

Why the blind eye Jay? An ambassador died and the response from Washington is questionable. FOX News is not the only one reporting the facts on 9/11/12. All you do is stir things up and not doing your job as a reporter makes you part of the problem.

Patriot

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am

Mr. Bookman, you sir, are a disgrace as a journalist and now as an American. I realize you live to rip Fox News and everyone on the right, and that is your choice. But Americans died and Barry is in cover up mode, a mode he is well versed in. His days are numbered – in fact, ONE comes to mind.

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:20 am

Berating the number ! news channel in the US is not going to change anything.

Didnt know ! was a number

And you say voters need an IQ test to vote ??

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:20 am

‘Americans died in Benghazi because the president didn’t give them the security they needed and asked for AND refused to go to their aid as they were being killed. ‘

No. Fox lied to you…deal with it.

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
9:20 am

Jay Bookman The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses
8:45 am November 5, 2012, by Jay

What happens when a lie goes astray?

You may recall the right wing’s hysteria last week over the way that events had supposedly played out in Benghazi, Libya. Stoked by inflammatory, deeply irresponsible misreporting on Fox News, they insisted that this scandal was bigger than Watergate, and that for his cowardice President Obama would be disgraced as commander in chief and impeached and removed from office should he win a second term.

Oh, they were in fine, fine form, braying like so many hounds certain they have finally treed the fox.

President Obama, we were told, had AC-130 gunships within an hour of Benghazi but refused to use them to try to intervene on behalf of his ambassador. We had Special Forces units ready to go just two hours away, at Sigonella Air Base in Sicily, but a cowardly Obama again barred a rescue operation, fearful that it might endanger his re-election if it went astray.

And twice — TWICE!!! — former SEALs at a nearby CIA compound had requested permission to intervene in the assault on the U.S. consulate, but twice they had been ordered to stand down and do nothing. Finally, the ex-SEALS defied orders from Washington, made their way to the consulate and rescued some of their fellow Americans. Obama, in contrast, was ready to just let them all die.

Fox News also reported that upon returning to the CIA annex, those same ex-SEALs had “lasered” a mortar targeting their position in hopes that an AC-130 would arrive to take it out, but again no help came. That same mortar later killed two of those ex-SEALs.

But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, and in all its details, that story has proved to be false.

– There were no orders from the CIA or anyone else to stand down. According to a CIA timeline released last week, once those at the CIA annex learned that the nearby consulate was under attack, an ad hoc rescue mission was quickly put together and launched within 25 minutes.

– As Pentagon spokesman George Little described it Friday, “there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night. The closest gunship was in Afghanistan, some 2,500 miles away. The two surveillance drones that eventually reached the scene in Benghazi also had to be reassigned from elsewhere; neither was armed.

– Contrary to the Fox report, there were no Special Forces units available for insertion into the situation. Soon after word of the attack reached Washington, a special ops team was scrambled from a training facility somewhere in Central Europe — some sources have reported Croatia — and transported to Sigonella.

In addition, a second special ops unit was immediately alerted and transported from a military base here in the United States to Sigonella, as an option should a hostage situation develop. In other words, major preparations were underway to provide a military option should the opportunity arise to use it.

But as Little put it last week, the units “did not arrive until after the entire sequence of events was complete. … They were in Sigonella many hours after the attacks.” Two platoons of specially trained Marines had also been hustled to Sigonella, but again too late for intervention.

– Finally, there had been no “lasering” of the mortar position used to attack the CIA annex in the second phase of the assault. (That second phase occurred more than seven hours after the attack on the consulate had ended). There was no reason to use a laser in that fashion — the SEALs knew they had no air cover to intervene — and more importantly, no opportunity to do so.

According to the CIA, its personnel at the annex were not even aware that the mortars existed until mortar shells began falling on their position; from beginning to end, the deadly mortar attack lasted all of 11 minutes.

In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong-headed. No facts exist to justify the overheated rhetoric and allegations directed at Obama and top officials in his administration, but no apologies will follow either. Quite the contrary, I’m sure.

– Jay Bookman
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..46 comments Add your commentHell-bent

November 5th, 2012
8:50 am
Of course it did! You try to use your propaganda platform to stir up the uneducated with all kinds of lies, what do you think will happen? The sad part is, that the dumb people who hear it actually believe it ’cause they heard it on Faux Noise.

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November 5th, 2012
8:50 am
First. You go Jay, tell ‘em. Tomorrow’s the big day. We won’t be worried ’bout Barry ‘cept for his lame duck, pardonin’ felon, implimentin’ the last vestiges of Communism days until January. Go Mittens.

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November 5th, 2012
8:51 am
Oops….second.

LinkReport this comment.Back in the USSA

November 5th, 2012
8:51 am
& 3rd, and 4th…

LinkReport this comment.stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
8:52 am
In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly

no. that last word is incorrect. You have to have a sense of shame in order to be embarrassed, and FoxNewers simply don’t.

They’ll be back with more fact-free crap in the days ahead. (They are still peddling an extremely suspect “Noble, Selfless Alabama Power Utility Volunteers Turned Away by Evil Union Thugs” story on their homepage, I see.)

LinkReport this comment.Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:53 am
Fox news jumps the shark again…

Their viewers, however, do not care and now anxiously await the next wild goose chase…

However, despite being led about by the rings in their noses again, they will feel ‘victimized’ by the ‘liberal MSM’ and certain, CERTAIN I say, that despite this whole thing being completely overblown and misrepresented…that’s okay, cuz Obama is an American hating, socialist, Muslim, Kenyan that attended Rev Wright’s racist Christian church for 20 years…

LinkReport this comment.Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:53 am
Sock puppets coming out early…must be worried…

LinkReport this comment.USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am
I posted the CIA story to my Benghazi-addled friends … they’re saying that the CIA is lying to protect the WH and it’s all just a CYA exercise.

you want to talk about “can’t handle the truth”? FOX viewers definitely can’t.

LinkReport this comment.Aquagirl

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am
Oh, our armchair special ops warriors were mistaken? We’re not awash in these manly-men and big guns that deploy just like our con experts fantasize at night in the privacy of their beds?

Nah, it’s a coverup.

LinkReport this comment.Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:54 am
Someone died and Obama lied. THAT IS A FACT!

LinkReport this comment.Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
8:55 am
But, Amb. Stevens was sodomized!

LinkReport this comment.stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am
y’see…

I have a cow orker whose browser homepage is set to FoxNews. I only learned this last week, but it really does explain a lot, as to why this person seems to operate in a parallel universe when discussing some of the most mundane-imaginable things. I am reminded of a discussion some months ago regarding some minor change to flex-plan medical benefits coverage; this person was so angry you’d think a coronary might be in the offing. Of course now I realize it’s because OSAMAKKKARE was surely to blame.

That’s embarrassing to me to behold, and if that’s what Jay meant earlier I stand corrected for my post @ 8.52.

LinkReport this comment.beachmom

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am
Thanks for the reality check, Jay. The second one will be tomorrow night/early Wednesday morning for Fox News viewers.

LinkReport this comment.USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:56 am
“Someone died and Obama lied. THAT IS A FACT!”

um

no.

that’s the point.

Reading is Fundamental.

LinkReport this comment.USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
8:57 am
“But, Amb. Stevens was sodomized!”

sort of tells you what the FOX folks daydream about …

LinkReport this comment.East Lake Ira

November 5th, 2012
8:57 am
Less than 36 hours to go… Can we quit Mitt then?

LinkReport this comment.larry

November 5th, 2012
8:58 am
Remember when the term “yellow journalism” used to be relevant?

Thats why i always compare Fox News to the National Inquirer, they sometimes get a news story right every once in a while.

I’m actually suprised that someone hasnt sued Fox News for the lies they have told throughout the years. Like they have sued the National Inquirer.

LinkReport this comment.Doggone/GA

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am
“what do you think will happen?”

I think the better question is: what do they WANT to happen? IMO, they probably want to scare people into not voting for Obama…and they probably succeeded with a lot of voters.

LinkReport this comment.Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am
USIN….No, it is a fact. Even the president accidently admitted that he knew about it before the claimed he had earlier. HIS OWN WORDS!

LinkReport this comment.Lee

November 5th, 2012
8:59 am
If the white turnout increases on Election Day, it will be very difficult for the president to win. If it decreases, it will be very difficult for him to lose. Rasmussen Reports currently estimates that white turnout will be similar to the 2008 totals. Black voters, however, are far more likely to have voted already than any other segment of the electorate.

LinkReport this comment.East Lake Ira

November 5th, 2012
9:00 am
Articles of Impeachment are ready and waiting for Obama once he wins.

LinkReport this comment.Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:00 am
‘ HIS OWN WORDS!’

Really? Where?

LinkReport this comment.larry

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am
Fox News and the Romney campaign …………………..

WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN’ FACTCHECKERS!!!

LinkReport this comment.USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am
“No, it is a fact. Even the president accidently admitted that he knew about it before the claimed he had earlier. HIS OWN WORDS!”

yay!!!

I’ll play!!!

please show your work and provide a quote.

LinkReport this comment.Doggone/GA

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am
“Reading is Fundamental”

And reading comprehension is essential

LinkReport this comment.independent thinker

November 5th, 2012
9:01 am
Really Jay – Fox News lied??? Shocks me to my core. Mittens lied – never! Ryan a good Catholic boy lied? can’t be. This is all a bunch of Malarkey made up by the left wing media.

LinkReport this comment.Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
9:02 am
Well, we’ll think of something else. Anyway, the election is tomorrow so there’s no big hurry to come up with something right away. After tomorrow it won’t matter anyhow.

Have a good Monday everybody. It sure is nippy out here. I hope a big fire breaks out in your comfy offices. It will serve you right. Not that I’m resentful or anything.

LinkReport this comment.Marty Huggins’

November 5th, 2012
9:03 am
Because if there is one thing we can all rest easy about its that the CIA always and I mean always tells us the American citizens the truth about everything.

Anyway,

I was never really worried about the incident itself.
More about who told Rice and Carney to mislead the American public for days if not weeks after the initial attack.

Jay you easily cast Fox News as liars.
How much consideration if any have you given about those intentional deceptions and conflicting stories broadcast by mouthpieces of the administration?

LinkReport this comment.larry

November 5th, 2012
9:03 am
If the white turnout increases on Election Day, it will be very difficult for the president to win. If it decreases………..

Just a gut feeling i have, I think, on the Presidential side, the race in Georgia will be too close to call for most of the night come Tuesday. I may be wrong, but its just a gut feeling i have.

LinkReport this comment.USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am
Independent – 9:01 – word.

LinkReport this comment.Lee

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am
larry…I respect you opinion but there has been no data to show that Obama has any sort of chance of winning Georgia. Ohio and Florida are the key factors and I believe Romney will take both.

LinkReport this comment.gm

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am
Amazing fox opionion news are only as low as their viewers, we lost 3500 Americans 911 on our own soil, never did you see fox and idiots continue to dig in the truth on those attacks.

They never tried to blame it on a stupid video either…whether or not aid could have or could not have been given is beside the point…

The Obama admin. knew it was unsafe through emails that Stevens sent to the State Dept.. why was he not either brought out of there or given better security before 911.
Bottom line, Obama knew it would look bad so they tried to cover it up and then he had the nerve to go to Vegas for a fundraiser…disgusting

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:20 am

Lord Help us? You have no relationship with the Lord. Weak Liberal Turd is a better handle.

ATL Tiger

November 5th, 2012
9:21 am

This is pathetic. There is no journalism anymore. This has cover up written all over it, please explain how the administration for weeks blamed this tragedy on a youtube video when all documents, emails, etc say nothing of the sort. Why even promote that story? C O V E R U P

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
9:21 am

Republicans are biased, ignore factual information, and only choose to listen to news that suits them and their views in order to affirm their beliefs.

Same for Democrats though.

Ol' Timer

November 5th, 2012
9:21 am

As Mark Twain said, “Get all the facts first, then you can distort them as you please.”

The amazing thing is that so many people are willing to believe the unbelieveable that it makes misinformation outlets like Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Hannity et al players in the age of instant news and analysis.

Twain went on to say that “a person who WON’T read has no advantage over a person who CAN’T read.”

Reading and reaching independent, rational conclusions has given way to “ditto-heads” who have someone else do the work for them, interpret it and give them the condensed and distorted version.

And, so it goes. . . .

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
9:21 am

whoops sorry about that..didnt mean to copy all that

Owl

November 5th, 2012
9:22 am

Then 2 weeks of “the video” are now justified? Be carefull what you wish for Jay- if he goes down on this you’re going to have to endure 4 years of defending Joe Biden.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:22 am

“You guys just cannot stand the fact that every news organization isn’t in the tank for your Lord O.”

ah, yes, the pervasive myth of the liberal media – the lie the right loves to cling to, regardless of the facts

“‘Americans died in Benghazi because the president didn’t give them the security they needed and asked for AND refused to go to their aid as they were being killed. ‘”

benghazi /= Tripoli (where the security was ACTUALLY requested)

Deal with it

November 5th, 2012
9:22 am

Bookman- try to be respectful of the assassinated ambassador. Bottom line: it happened on Obama’s watch. Deal with it and quit being such a partisan hack.

RAMBLE ON!!!

November 5th, 2012
9:22 am

I wonder why Britain didn’t have anyone killed at their embassy Jay?

…oh that’s right, they didn’t make that you tube movie.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:22 am

‘You have no relationship with the Lord.’

Fox lied to you…deal with it.

Jay

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

And by “in the tank,” straitroad, you mean reliant on facts?

Seriously, how can you defend Fox’s reporting on and handling of this issue? I guess you simply can’t, which is why we have gotten nothing but personal attacks on this post from the right, with no effort at rebuttal other than &*#&$*(&#$(# you little $&*(#&$*!!!

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:05 am
Amazing fox opionion news are only as low as their viewers, we lost 3500 Americans 911 on our own soil, never did you see fox and idiots continue to dig in the truth on those attacks.

They never tried to blame it on a stupid video either…whether or not aid could have or could not have been given is beside the point…

The Obama admin. knew it was unsafe through emails that Stevens sent to the State Dept.. why was he not either brought out of there or given better security before 911.
Bottom line, Obama knew it would look bad so they tried to cover it up and then he had the nerve to go to Vegas for a fundraiser…disgusting

German Shepherd Dawg

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

Jay,

I disagree with almost everything you write.

I’m also not sure about all of your purported facts in this article, but that said, the guy named John @ 9:10 embarrassed all of us other guys named John.

This is why I post here as “German Shepherd Dawg.”

I do agree with one thing you said. Geez.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

Love MY President using the ” revenge” word. What scares me…He means it.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

“How do you think a party that empowered rich, predatory Wall Street plutocrats to destroy this country can nominate a rich, predatory Wall Street plutocrat and he can get 48%-plus of the nation’s votes!”

Pluto has a political party? Dang it, why didn’t Fox news tell me so I could back the Disney candidate?

Bob

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

Great election. The south gets to choose between the devil and a black man. Yes they choose the devil. Vote against the Republican party for 100 years for freeing the slaves and against the democratic party for the last 48 for giving them the right to vote.

Marty Huggins'

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

President Obama has dropped plenty of bombs on plenty of people, men, women and children.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am

I love it.

Not only have the wheels come off the Romney campaign, but the Romney supporters on Jay’s blog are foaming at the mouth and are raging about total bulldada.

Dance, puppets! DANCE! (laughing, clapping) :D

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:24 am

‘try to be respectful of the assassinated ambassador.’

Yeah, make up a bunch of pure BS, spin it and repeat it ad nauseam like Fox…much more patriotic…

Mr Right

November 5th, 2012
9:24 am

Ok folks, move on, nothing happened here, just four people died!

Paul

November 5th, 2012
9:25 am

Sunday paper had an article about Africa Command (one of the unified-warfighting commands). They share a quick response team with European Command. Are mostly training-oriented. Are headquartered in Germany because of African nations’ sensibilities.

They’re the ones who would direct military ops in Libya. Article noted what Jay posted: as far as readily available assets, there weren’t any.

USinUK

“I posted the CIA story to my Benghazi-addled friends … they’re saying that the CIA is lying to protect the WH and it’s all just a CYA exercise.”

What I hear is “well… so why didn’t the administration have those assets ready?”

When the story about the CIA timeline was originally brought up, it was like panning for gold on Mars trying to get a conservative blogger to address the issue. I don’t expect today will be any different.

But I will turn in to Fox News today to hear their corrections and retractions.

(cue snorts and laughter…. now!)

Recon 0311 2533

November 5th, 2012
9:25 am

Four Americans dead and you read this kind of irresponsible spin, disgusting. The fact remains that requests for additional security was denied even though all the evidence justified those requests. Obama and the state department attempted to cover up this administrations gross incompetence just to get through the election. This was an insult to those who lost their lives at Benghazi in service to our country, those who’ve previously lost their lives in service to our country, those now risking their lives in service to our country, all of their families and to Americans in general.

monroe

November 5th, 2012
9:26 am

Obama will win reelection easily on tuesday—all the white racists will have to go back home and deal with it—4 more years!!!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:26 am

So Cons, how does it feel to have wasted three weeks of your life chasing fairies?

mm

November 5th, 2012
9:26 am

And tomorrow night the Faux News crowd will be claiming that Obama stole the election.

You know it’s coming.

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:26 am

“Love MY President using the ” revenge” word. What scares me…He means it.”

HE Sure Does! Should scare everyone. What a murderous evil Man. Revenge for what? Wake up you morons.

Mr Right

November 5th, 2012
9:27 am

Love MY President using the ” revenge” word. What scares me…He means it

Do I need to run for cover if I vote for Romney? Where’s that drone?

Alpharetta Dave

November 5th, 2012
9:27 am

The real truth is, had it not been for the persistence of Fox News, we would have all believed the out and out lie about the video that the administration, with the ever so willing aid of the media, was feeding us. Just what were they trying to cover up with their continued insistence that the Benghazi violence was not terrorism? You, the complicit left wing media and all of the Obama zombies can criticize Fox all you want but at least they look beyond the image and the propaganda that America is being fed. Journalism in this country has earned a reputation as being less trusted than lawyers and politicians. Just maybe, if you guys did your jobs and actually did some true investigative reporting instead of feeding us the administrations talking points, you could once again earn the trust of the American people. I wouldn’t believe anything I read in the AJC. Even the football scores are suspect.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:27 am

‘Four Americans dead and you read this kind of irresponsible spin, disgusting. ‘

Facts are here, the ‘irresponsible spin’ is on Fox. Your post would be much more appropriate there…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 5th, 2012
9:27 am

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:19 am
DannyX and Granny Godzilla are total Losers. Get some fresh air and get that Liberal chip off your shoulder. All that hate and nonsense you carry around is not healthy. Envy is a sin btw….Enjoy your American Idol President being defeated tomorrow. Have a Nice day

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Love you too my little parsley butter dumpling!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:28 am

“Love MY President using the ” revenge” word. What scares me…He means it.”

oh, FFS … would someone please gather up about a dozen fainting couches … I think we’re going to need them today.

Brian

November 5th, 2012
9:28 am

It’s interesting that because you don’t like FOX, everything they say is a lie. Would you also crucify CNN or MSNBC if the shoe were on the other foot? Doubtfully, because of how and what you believe you don’t think it’s possible for CNN or MSNBC to lie, they would never do that? But FOX doesn’t stand for what you believe so they are automatic liars. It works both ways people. The left lies about the right to push what they want and the right lies about the left to push what they want. Good job of keeping the flames fanned Jay. I don’t care what you say, journalism is no longer unbiased, it’s us vs. them.

Rickster

November 5th, 2012
9:28 am

Well… Fox just had to go overboard to overcompensate for the almost complete lack of coverage by the other major news outlets.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:28 am

‘What a murderous evil Man.’

Oh boy…the con sheep are losing it…

Lee

November 5th, 2012
9:29 am

Currently polling is stating it is virtually a dead heat. It is going to all come down to Florida.

Travis McGee

November 5th, 2012
9:29 am

Where’s the outrage over the thousands of young men and women who died for a lie and the tens of thousands who are maimed and broken in defense of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfelt Weapons of Mass Destruction lie?

Where are the masses turning our to greet their liberators?

There are liars and damn liars and statistics. . . .but these statistics DON’T LIE!

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:29 am

There were twelve embassy attacks during the Bush administration…….

I dont recall very much outrage or calls for an investigation on any of the attacks……….

Please tell me all the conservatives were outraged on each one of the 12 attacks and the loss of life that happened on those attacks.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:30 am

‘had it not been for the persistence of Fox News’

Fox lied to you…deal with it.

Mr Right

November 5th, 2012
9:30 am

And tomorrow night the Faux News crowd will be claiming that Obama stole the election.

You know it’s coming

Sounds like you know the libs are cheating, you should report it!

saywhat?

November 5th, 2012
9:30 am

Looking forward to this Wednesday morning, when our little republican friends wake up to find that God has peed in their cornflakes.

UNCLE SAMANTHA

November 5th, 2012
9:30 am

OBAMA LIE

pass the AHCA and your premiums will go down………… just got out of our insurance meeting for 2013 and premiums are only going up 32%

Thanks Donkeys
Wish you would have just been honest with me

Count Down

November 5th, 2012
9:31 am

Is anyone going to show facts to refute what Bookman wrote today?

Let me guess instead of facts there will be gnashing of teeth, rants, raves and deflections in efforts to hide the FACT thay many on this blog bought into the Fox and talk radio hype.

You bought into, not because you wanted to know the truth, but it fed your political narrative.
Like you, it is that simple.

Good day.

Thomas Heyward Jr

November 5th, 2012
9:31 am

“In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong-headed. No facts exist to justify the overheated rhetoric and allegations directed at Obama and top officials in his administration,”
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Right ….it shouldn’t have been any controversy.
Just a typical neo-con foreign policy bought to you by Fed.gov.
People die……………for no gain…………..Standard procedure.
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“but no apologies will follow either.”
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Neo-cons NEVER apologize.

Jason

November 5th, 2012
9:31 am

There is nothing here that impugns Romney, even though some commenters are trying to bootstrap the FoxNews reporting to Romney. Romney was extremely circumspect in how he discussed Benghazi. I personally regret the reporting of the Benghazi incident, because it saps credibility from the GOPs quest to defeat Obama. And Obama has plenty of exposure over real issues; we don’t need Benghazi. To the commenters who act so smug about FoxNews, you might want to note that FoxNews isn’t running for president. As much as the left would like to think so, FoxNews is not a proxy for Romney. So don’t gloat so much about FoxNews’ embarrassment, lest you find you were celebrating the battle while losing the war.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Polls show four more years!

Liars and cheaters still never win.

cllwken

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

I guess you were the wise one to get fed information at the last minute from the Obama Administration so we should believe your sources…..GA please! You pretty late on this as usual. I don’t believe nothing the Obama backed administration fed u at the last minute. I’m a veteran and going by witnesses rescued and the parents of the victims. Don’t believe you or your sources only because u believe the current administration’s lies.

Krystal'sBalls

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Obama haters…

The proverbial FOOT is on your throats and with no letup. The neck will be snapped tomorrow.

BELIEVE it!

Ben The Independent

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Mr Obama refuses to comment on the Benghazi issue and the main stream media covers him by not commenting on it; so, why is your (Jay) report attacking a non-issue? It’s obvious the administration has something it doesn’t want covered. The bad old FNC will not ignore an issue that stinks to high heaven.

Ben The Independent

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Mr Obama refuses to comment on the Benghazi issue and the main stream media covers him by not commenting on it; so, why is your (Jay) report attacking a non-issue? It’s obvious the administration has something it doesn’t want covered. The bad old FNC will not ignore an issue that stinks to high heaven.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Cons, up your antidepressants TODAY. Time is running out….

cllwken

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

I guess you were the wise one to get fed information at the last minute from the Obama Administration so we should believe your sources…..GA please! You pretty late on this as usual. I don’t believe nothing the Obama backed administration fed u at the last minute. I’m a veteran and going by witnesses rescued and the parents of the victims. Don’t believe you or your sources only because u believe the current administration’s lies.

Mr Right

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:30 am

‘had it not been for the persistence of Fox News’

Fox lied to you…deal with it.

Obama lied, admit it!

cllwken

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

I guess you were the wise one to get fed information at the last minute from the Obama Administration so we should believe your sources…..GA please! You pretty late on this as usual. I don’t believe nothing the Obama backed administration fed u at the last minute. I’m a veteran and going by witnesses rescued and the parents of the victims. Don’t believe you or your sources only because u believe the current administration’s lies.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Marty Huggins’

November 5th, 2012
9:23 am
Granny Godzilla – Union Thugette
November 5th, 2012
9:18 am

President Obama has dropped plenty of bombs on plenty of people, men, women and children.

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Yes he did.

After soul seraching, study, input and data.

For a person of compassion, even when justified, it must be a tough call.

The violent and loose talk of the right in the last few weeks is an embarrassment to our nation.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:34 am

Newsflash: Jay and his ultra smart, super intelligent 15 blog regulars hate Fox News.

How many right side political bloggers(note I didn’t use the word journalist) spend over 50% of their time bashing MSNBC? Oh that’s right, no one watches MSNBC let alone takes them seriously.

Aquagirl

November 5th, 2012
9:35 am

with no effort at rebuttal other than &*#&$*(&#$(# you little $&*(#&$*!!!

Mark T made a pretty creative spam rebuttal. That wall of text is a might fine blunt instrument.

I give credit where credit is due.

Of course if his spam was unintentional I’m sure it will never occur to him that inability to make a simple blog post might mean he’s not quite up to judging complex secretive military and State department operations.

Recon 0311 2533

November 5th, 2012
9:35 am

“Facts are here, the ‘irresponsible spin’ is on Fox. Your post would be much more appropriate there…”

You should do yourself a favor and discontinue being led around by the nose because clearly you haven’t been following this incident yourself.

Mary Elizabeth

November 5th, 2012
9:35 am

“But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, and in all its details, that story has proved to be false.” “. . .but no apologies will follow either. Quite the contrary, I’m sure.”
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No apologies will be forthcoming because the rightwing has known from the beginning that they were pedaling lies to win elections – just as Romney has spewed knowing lies about Jeep’s taking jobs from Americans for overseas jobs. Bain did that, not Jeep. Gov. Romney even doubled down on this Jeep lie after it was exposed. That shows his basic disrespect for the intelligence of, and the character of, the American people – because he does not think that the American people will be able to see what he is doing and/or because they do not care what he is doing in trying to make lies appear as truth.

Are these the leaders we want influencing our nation, with their values and their spinning of lies as reality – which they will expect every cititzen to fall neatly in line to accept as truth? Not this citizen.

I encourage all who support President Obama to turn out in large numbers, today and tomorrow, to vote for him. Even in Georgia, you can still effect his overall numbers nationally in the popular vote. Make your vote and your voice count. Do not let billionaires control the direction of our nation. Let the voices of common American citizens control that direction through their votes, which will reflect their core values.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:37 am

“How many right side political bloggers(note I didn’t use the word journalist) spend over 50% of their time bashing MSNBC?”

know why?

they can barely spell it.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

“Cons, up your antidepressants TODAY. Time is running out….”

Lib-turds – up your crack buy at the corner today – it will mellow you into a non-rioting state of mind come Wednesday.

ragnar danneskjold

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

Leftists wish this Benghazi thing would just go away.

It was just a YoutTube video. It had nothing to do with terrorism, but if it did, it had nothing to do with democrats talking about killing bin Laden 22 times at the convention the week before.

Benghazi was just a outgrowth of Middle East protests everywhere except in Iraq, but the Muslim Brotherhood people really like Obama and the US, they just have a funny way of showing it.

Is Benghazi a reflection of the failure of the Obama foreign policy, or is it merely a failure to plan, anticipate, and defend American interests? We report, you decide.

TB

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

And the AJC claims it is not a liberal rag!!! Jay Bookman & that moran who draws the inciting & unscrululous cartoons need to be on the unemployment line so they have more time to worship their great & powerful OBAMA!!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

I wouldn’t believe anything I read in the AJC. Even the football scores are suspect.

Well, it sounds like you’ve given up all hope for your country and will be looking for another country to call home.

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

Paul: Sunday paper had an article about Africa Command (one of the unified-warfighting commands). They share a quick response team with European Command. Are mostly training-oriented. Are headquartered in Germany because of African nations’ sensibilities.

They’re the ones who would direct military ops in Libya. Article noted what Jay posted: as far as readily available assets, there weren’t any.

True Foxists don’t let little details, such as facts, get in the way of their fits of ideological peauxtragery. I would have thought you had learned that by now, Paul. Shame on you.

:)

Ad

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

Fox “News” is pretty much an instrument of the Republican Party and they display the same level of integrity. I don’t know what happened to the decent people who used to be Republicans – I guess some of them still vote R and others have just died off. It’s a shame the party has gone so far to the right that nominating a cultist for president and adopting mindless Tea Party mantras as policy are considered acceptable.

Count Down

November 5th, 2012
9:38 am

Many wondered why Romney didn’t pounce on this issue during the debates?

hmmmmmmmmmmm

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:39 am

‘because clearly you haven’t been following this incident yourself.’

So what in Jay’s post is incorrect?

ATL Tiger

November 5th, 2012
9:39 am

So about that youtube video…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
9:39 am

Recon — “Four Americans dead and you read this kind of irresponsible spin, disgusting.”

Then maybe you and your ideological compatriots should stop *engaging* in that kind of disgusting, irresponsible spin.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:39 am

Is the World Trade Center a reflection of the failure of the W foreign policy, or is it merely a failure to plan, anticipate, and defend American interests? We report, you decide.

fixed……

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
9:40 am

Fox just had to go overboard to overcompensate for the almost complete lack of coverage by the other major news outlets.

Our Rickster has summarized what I have felt, for over a decade, is the prime directive of Fox News. Fox News is founded on the belief that the so-called “mainstream media” (really a huge circle of corporate conglomerates) is way biased to the left, and so the only way for Fox to be “fair and balanced” is for them to be at least as biased to the right.

That is why, for example, they felt that they needed to give Mitt Romney 80 percent more airtime the week before the election than they gave Obama.

This sort of thing justifies, in the minds of the FNC viewers, what they probably know in their hearts is not “balanced” coverage at all.

the truth...

November 5th, 2012
9:40 am

Jay Bookman you and your followers are traitors………….that is the truth………..

larry

November 5th, 2012
9:41 am

MSNBC doesnt claim to be a news operation, Fox News does!!

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
9:41 am

It was just a YoutTube video. It had nothing to do with terrorism

Rags, as you’ve been told many times: When you have to lie to make a point, you have no point.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
9:41 am

Mayor Reed on cnn says four more years!

Dirty Dawg

November 5th, 2012
9:41 am

If we thought the 2000 vote was screwed up, you ain’t seen nothin yet. This time the Republican-controlled election apparatus in the several states have a plan to disrupt, deny, confuse, litigate and, ultimately, flip the vote and voters. This is what ‘the greatest Democracy in the world’ has devolved into. Yes the Republicans are poised to double, and triple if need be, down this time around…particularly since it worked so well those other times. Only thing is, ‘this time’ Democrats won’t sit still for it. No more backing down ‘for the good of the country’…to hell with that…the best thing for the country is for the Republican Party to be obliterated and never again return. For the party name ‘Republican’ to be made so toxic – when all the truths are finally made public – that like the Nazi Party, no one would dare declare they were ever a member…one can wish can’t one?

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:41 am

Not Many Obama Stickers on peoples cars around here. Funny… What are all the Liberals and Zombies going to do tomorrow when your American Idol gets sent packing. WE THE PEOPLE will win. Deal with it Haters.Pull those Old stickers off your crappy cars tomorrow. Facts are pesky things… BHO has been a terrible FAILURE and you all know it.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
9:42 am

I demand a apology from fox and the unhinged after this election.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:42 am

Cons, get your shovels ready. Less than 24 hours till the landslide.

mwuahahahahahaa

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
9:42 am

oh, FFS … would someone please gather up about a dozen fainting couches … I think we’re going to need them today.

There’s a stack of moldy army cots out back that will be more than sufficient.

Rickster

November 5th, 2012
9:42 am

Whether or not the Fox News story is false, what remains to be true is:

1. Ambassador Chris Stephens sent repeated warnings that Al Qaeda was strengthening.

2. Ambassador Chris Stephens sent repeated warnings that the consulate in Benghazi could not withstand a coordinated assault and asking for increased security.

3. Ambassador Chris Stephens sent warnings that the embassy was under attack.

4. Ambassador Chris Stephens and three others died in the assault, which was viewed in real-time by parties high up in the administration.

5. The next morning, Pres. Obama made a statement referring to an “act of terror” – then hopped on AF1 and went to a Nevada fund raiser.

7. Intelligence officials briefed administration officials and congressional leaders that they knew the attack was an organized terror attack – not a mob attack.

8. For the next two weeks, Pres. Obama, SecState Clinton, WH Spox Carney and Ambassador Rice publicly and repeatedly stated that the deaths were result of mobs enraged by an anti-Muslim video – which they knew at the time they made those statements was completely untrue.

9. True to Hillary’s word (spoken to the father of one of the dead) the film maker was arrested.

10. Ambassador Chris Stephens and three others are still dead.

Jay’s doing everything he can to distract his readers from 1-10.

Sad, Jay. Sad.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:42 am

Wow. Republican nutcase stupidity is at an all time high. Reading their comments today makes me worry about the collective intelligence of this Country due to them and talk radio. They continue to lie and spout the talk radio lies.

I especially like Del’s, “You should do yourself a favor and discontinue being led around by the nose because clearly you haven’t been following this incident yourself.”

This comes after he posts that funds were cut for embassy defense but FAILS TO REPORT that they were CUT BY REPUBLICAN CONGRESS. But his FOX MASTERS didn’t tell him to report that FACT that the Republicans slashed the State Department budget.

Comical, simply comical. The lack of shame they feel as they drag 4 dead Americans through the streets and through the mud in pitiful attempts to discredit our President and our Country.

Semper Fi there feller, Semper Fi………

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 5th, 2012
9:43 am

Someone above stated that there already were conservative heads exploding and that’s true, but it’s still pretty much isolated to the severely radical right for now, but wait until tomorrow…right wing heads will be going off like a string of firecrackers. it ought to be fun. I smell desperation in the air…smells like a progressive victory. ha ha.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:43 am

“Fox “News” is pretty much an instrument of the Republican Party and they display the same level of integrity. ”

seriously! could you imagine the outrage if NBC or CBS reporters were out campaigning for Obama?? but nary a peep about Hannity, et al, out stumping for Romney.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
9:43 am

Don’t act surprised at political exploitation.
Fear fear fear.
Abortion, don’t provide birth control, or prevent a problem as long as you can exploit the results.
Guns, even without threat of assault weapon restriction let’s be afraid of it as we manipulate gun sales out the roof. Debt, let’s maintain two theaters of war but cut social spending. God bless.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 5th, 2012
9:43 am

Oh yes, clean up in the red aisle…

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
9:43 am

Mayor Reed has been a Total Disgrace too BTW. Great Job with Occupy Atlanta sir support. You better get your resme Ready too. What a Clown.Just a puppet for Washington.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
9:44 am

Oh and Jay, your piece in yesterday’s paper edition was real good.

So why aren’t we getting it here?

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
9:45 am

Many wondered why Romney didn’t pounce on this issue during the debates?

Just a reminder–there was a FOREIGN POLICY debate.

Obama had actually BROUGHT IT UP, himself.

Romney pivoted to something else.

Why was that? Well, I’ve heard a whole lotta this, in response, when I have asked that precise question in these threads, myself.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
9:45 am

Enter your comments here
Regan buried 200 marines in Lebanon and he’s the hero.

indigo

November 5th, 2012
9:45 am

This essay, and the comments, constitute a real IQ test.

Cons, here’s a hint. You don’t score either in the top or the middle of the intelligence spectrum.

JIMBOB

November 5th, 2012
9:45 am

Jay,

Are you a shill for US policy or supposedly a writer that is supposed to stand up for the people and question the treasonous policies and behaviors of the US ruling class?

Sure looks like the former. Oh, and if all else fails, just tell everyone that the real problem are Jewish land owners that are resisting ethnic cleansing.

TiredOfIt

November 5th, 2012
9:45 am

The Truth
November 5th, 2012
9:11 am

Obama killed my son. Words spoken by the father of one of the Seals that died.
++
“One” How many thousands have said that about Bush and Cheney

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
9:46 am

Now just listen to Jay and you progressive liberals coming out with a time line provided by this administration. Of course Fox was suspicious and was reporting events/stories as they could find them and be credible–no one else was. Now that poor slob is still in JAIL over that video that was fed to the American public by no other than this administration. If you lie to me once why should I believe you the second time? Oh I know because you said this is the truth this time. Oh and Jay where did you get all these facts?

Paul

November 5th, 2012
9:46 am

“The real truth is, had it not been for the persistence of Fox News, we would have all believed the out and out lie about the video that the administration, with the ever so willing aid of the media, was feeding us. ”

And Alpharetta Dave is reduced to saying the CIA got it wrong on why the attack occurred.

Yup, if the CIA had got the analysis right this never would have happened.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
9:47 am

T. “Truth” — “Jay Bookman you and your followers are traitors………….that is the truth………..”

This disabled veteran says bite your tongue.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
9:47 am

If you lie to me once why should I believe you the second time?

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

‘ If you lie to me once why should I believe you the second time?’

This from an Romney supporter and Fox viewer…omfg…

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

MSNBC doesnt claim to be a news operation, Fox News does!!

I don’t know if that’s precisely true, but here is something undeniable:

MSNBC bills itself as “The Place for Politics.” This does not imply that they are trying to be objective; it subtly acknowledges that you are getting entertainment on that cable channel, mostly from the left-of-center (Rachel, Ed, Lawrence) but also from the right (Joe Scar).

FNC continues to claim it is “Fair and Balanced.” It says “We report, you decided.”

Those are very different missions, I think.

mm

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

I have a feeling the Fox News ratings will start to nosedive after the election when the cons finally realize FN has been lying to them for the last few weeks concerning Mitt’s chances in the election.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

Kam – 9:42 – get out the Febreeze – I think it’s going to be that kind of day

Welcome to the Occupation

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

Jay, all this is true enough, and hardly surprising. Those of us who’ve been watching the right exploit this ridiculous propaganda PR outfit “FOX” masked as a journalistic organization are hardly surprised.

But aren’t you starting to become a little like MSNBC in this case, passing up deep analysis of a troubling situation for cheap points that preach to the partisan choir?

What about the revelations on Friday that major media organizations at Washington’s request concealed the fact that the supposed consulate Navy personnel were not security details but were actively working with the CIA? In fact, there were apparently more people working for the CIA at the embassy than there were embassy personnel there. This obviously had a profound effect on how the story was received broadly in the early going, but in ways that can’t easily be assimilated either into a ready-made FOX or a MSNBC-friendly narrative.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

Now that poor slob is still in JAIL over that video that was fed to the American public by no other than this administration.

No willie my boy, that man is in jail over PAROLE VIOLATION from the many crimes he was convicted of.

Of course he’s a DRUG ADDICT so I see why you right wingers love him so………….

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

” If you lie to me once why should I believe you the second time? ”

they’ll greet us with flowers as liberators!!

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

‘ If you lie to me once why should I believe you the second time?’

We will, in fact, be greeted as liberators…

We can have these tax cuts and still have trillions in surplus…

DannyX

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

“Leftists wish this Benghazi thing would just go away.”

ragnar, why is that? Obama’s approval ratings have gone up, and he got a bump in the polls since Fox News started their Benghazi craziness.

Paul

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

Brosephus

“True Foxists don’t let little details, such as facts, get in the way of their fits of ideological peauxtragery. I would have thought you had learned that by now, Paul. ”

It’s the eternal tension between reason and faith, Brosephus.

Union

November 5th, 2012
9:49 am

mm
November 5th, 2012
9:26 am

And tomorrow night the Faux News crowd will be claiming that Obama stole the election.

You know it’s coming.

nah.. he bought it..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
9:50 am

I have a feeling the Fox News ratings will start to nosedive after the election when the cons finally realize FN has been lying to them for the last few weeks concerning Mitt’s chances in the election.

I held a similar opinion of talk-radio some thirty years ago.

Boy, was I mistaken.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:50 am

” Regan buried 200 marines in Lebanon and he’s the hero.”

you forget … he avenged their murders!!

the fine folks of Grenada never saw what hit ‘em!!

DannyX

November 5th, 2012
9:50 am

“We can have these tax cuts and still have trillions in surplus…”

Lol! That one is my favorite.

Btw, when is Iraqi oil going to start paying off the massive war debt?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:50 am

mm

November 5th, 2012
9:48 am

I have a feeling the Fox News ratings will start to nosedive after the election when the cons finally realize FN has been lying to them for the last few weeks concerning Mitt’s chances in the election.
+++++++++++++++++++++++

Have you lost your ever loving mind? FOX will double down and tell those losers that the election was “rigged” and the *mainstream media* is helping to cover it up and the completely ignorant brainwashed asshats that worship FOX will come here and repeat the lies……….

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
9:51 am

Cons, When will you be tired of being lied to on a daily basis?

Romney isn’t talking about it, the majority of US news agencies aren’t talking about it.

Only 1 source of info. And you Cons eat it up like it’s the word of god.

Ad

November 5th, 2012
9:51 am

Romney will probably win – in Georgia. Of course, Romney’s going to lose the election, but, given that Georgia is a Mormon stronghold, I give Romney the edge here.

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:51 am

Mark T

3500 Americans dead 911 under W, only 4 Americans dead in 4 years under O, no attacks on American soil.

Sorry I would take O keeping America safe any day over a rep administration, oh I forgot O is different in you right wings mind.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

When confronted with the hard, cold facts, the irrational Obama and Uncle Sam haters are reduced to straitroadisms…

lovelyliz

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

Fox News motto: We Make It Up As We Go Along

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

Paul

If I were you, I’d side with reason in this case. I don’t think there’s enough faith in the world to beat reason this time.

Count Down

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

Recon

You say you have followed this incident, yet you haven’t refuted anything in the article with facts.

You rant and rave well. That is about all.

Big bark, no bite

UNCLE SAMANTHA

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

MSNBC doesn’t exist anymore
Microsoft did not want to be associated with the garbage
So now its just NBC

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

“know why?

they can barely spell it.”

oooohhh what a snappy quick witted comeback. How long did it take you to come up with that one?

Don’t you have enough liberalness in the UK to keep you happy and out of the political discussions in the US? I hear the Cotswolds are beautiful this time of year.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

Well Ga will go Romney and possibly get a conservative super majority. Life is good here. I am sure they will have NJ and NY cleaned up for you transplants to return soon. Of course if you want to rebuild with FEMA funds you must be union.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:53 am

““We can have these tax cuts and still have trillions in surplus…””

the Iraq war will pay for itself in oil … also a knee-slapper

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:53 am

Count Down

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

Recon

You say you have followed this incident, yet you haven’t refuted anything in the article with facts.

You rant and rave well. That is about all.

Big bark, no bite
+++++++++++++++++

Not even a big bark, more like a yappy dog nipping at ankles…………..

Donovan

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

Shame on you, Jay Bookman, the Democrat controlled media, and the incompetent Obama regime. This whole affair could have been avoided had the priorities for American safety been followed.

You all know the facts that led up to the massacre. You all sat on those facts for fear of looking bad for election reasons. You all should be condemned for your politicizing actions. You all will be held accountable tomorrow for your political actions.

What is absolutely galling and beyond the standards for individual responsibility is your blame game. Fox News had the courage to investigate the suppression of this story and had to extract the buried stories from the White House, State Dept., the CIA, and the Defense Dept. By doing so, all the stories did not match up to the cover-up that is still going on. Is it any wonder that the investigation is being kept on hold until AFTER the election?

This morning’s commentary by Jay Bookman and the ridiculous carping by his myrmidons point out why this election is so important. America has a choice between allowing left wing lunatics to continue their assault on social responsibilities or voting for the removal of this social cancer that has run rampant for the last 4 years.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

“Don’t you have enough liberalness in the UK to keep you happy and out of the political discussions in the US?”

yay!!!

haven’t heard that one in AGES … thanks for dusting it off

once a citizen, always a citizen.

deal with it.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

i’d be willing to bet people who blast Fox News go ahead and view any news they gather as biased if it doesn’t match their world view or valid if it does.

Same for Republicans though.

It is funny watching one side call the other “sheep”.

kimmer

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

So Jay. Just for grins and giggles let’s just assume all of the things you say about Fox New’s are true. Even under that assumption what we are left with is you nutting up about a news network jumping to conclusions and NOTHING to say about the President of the United States CLEARLY misleading the american people about this incident for weeks!

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

Jessica Lynch, Pat Tillman,”You didn’t build that” and other right wing nonsense. When you have nothing fabricate.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

L. “Nightmare” — “oooohhh what a snappy quick witted comeback. How long did it take you to come up with that one?”

Given the lameness of your own comebacks, you might want to sharpen up your own rhetoric, Cowboy.

And if you’re going to wear a handle like that, try harder in general. You’re coming across more like a clown than like any nightmare I’ve ever had. (giggling) :D

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am

‘the Iraq war will pay for itself in oil … also a knee-slapper’

The war (Iraq) will be short…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am

” Fox News had the courage to investigate the suppression of this story”

you know, I was going to :lol:

but the sad thing is this numpty actually BELIEVES that …

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am

Has Fox even once reported on the House Republicans outing the CIA and some of the Libyans who were aiding the US?

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am

6 days in Florida, nice to see so many whites with Obama signs stickers in their yards, goes to show the difference between the Geogia bigots who still vote against their interest because they hate Obama, even though the last 2 gov in Georiga has destroyed this state.

Marty Huggins'

November 5th, 2012
9:56 am

Jay,
Could Fox News just received bad intelligence about what had happened?

You know just like the administration did in blaming this on a video?

How do you know that the administration was just an accident and Fox was intentionally misleading?

I only ask because I cannot find the article in which you blast the administration the way you did in this piece.

I am more bothered by an administration lying to us than a news group.

Wonder why it took CIA this long to release timeline hmmmmmm?
It’s not like the story is new???????
Did it take them this long to put that timeline together?

Who told Carney and Rice to lie to us the American People?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
9:56 am

Well, I seen today’s polls. I’m scared #1 Foxy Lady’s getting her fingers limbered up. And you know what she always tells us Republicans. O me!

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:56 am

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
9:52 am

“know why?

they can barely spell it.”

oooohhh what a snappy quick witted comeback. How long did it take you to come up with that one?

Don’t you have enough liberalness in the UK to keep you happy and out of the political discussions in the US? I hear the Cotswolds are beautiful this time of year.
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Are you a complete and utter moron or do you just lack the reasoning abilities to figure out that she is a US CITIZEN who LIVES in Great Britain at this time?

Or in your typical Republican manner do you just wish to trample all over the constitutional right of our fellow citizens because YOU don’t agree with them and lack the reasoning ability to debate with them?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
9:57 am

“The war (Iraq) will be short…”

well, then there’s the classics: “trickle down” … and “welfare queens” …

Lord Help Us

November 5th, 2012
9:57 am

‘Fox News had the courage to investigate the suppression of this story and had to extract the buried stories from the White House, State Dept., the CIA, and the Defense Dept.’

It takes COURAGE to lie?

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
9:57 am

Maybe you need to read more and spout off at the mouth less…I apoligized for the mistake right after it happened

Bob

November 5th, 2012
9:57 am

Easier to make people vote against anything than for something. Hard to believe birthers couldn’t convince people Hawaii isn’t a state. A Christian man married to his first wife with a beautiful family and great values and a great American. But in the south we wanted Newt Gingrich. Lying, adulterating, powerbating Newt. Mitts on the ticket because of the Midwest, not the south. Still we are just voting against the President, not for Mitt. Sad, sad sad

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
9:57 am

Donovan — “Fox News had the courage”

I normally don’t respond to Donovan because he’s about on BOW’s level, but I had to highlight this piece of jibber-jabber from him.

FNC possesses no courage. FNC simply shills for the GOP. It doesn’t take guts to kiss the behinds of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich; just a lack of self-respect.

Jeff

November 5th, 2012
9:58 am

Fox News is the only channel that is reporting what needs to be reported. The real news about Libia is how the president did not listed to warnings and beefed up security at all the emabassy’s in hot spots. But you, Bookman are a typical left wing socialist. This country is more divided now than at anytime since the civil war, if the division was across state lines I think there would already be violent conflicts. The left including your beloved president has been the key instigator to this division and this will get worse no matter who wins on Tuesday. Our enemys are loving this! Obama is a divider and so are you, People like you started this hatred!

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
9:58 am

…yet you haven’t refuted anything in the article with facts.

That is not what he does. Not today, not yesterday, not tomorrow.

For Del, opinions = facts.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
9:58 am

Even under that assumption what we are left with is you nutting up about a news network jumping to conclusions and NOTHING to say about the President of the United States CLEARLY misleading the american people about this incident for weeks!

So you argue that a lie supported by other lies somehow ISN’T a lie? Really? How exactly does that work? I mean once you concede that the supporting lie IS in fact a lie, it kind of takes away support for the lie it’s supporting. See how that works?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
9:59 am

Even drudgey has abandoned this issue. They’re down to one link, and it’s not in the coveted top left hand corner.

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:59 am

If Mitt is elected all minorties should let poor, middle class whites go fight and die in the wars that he will , while his sons take their family vacation.

Could you imagine if Obama had 5 sons who never served? fox and nuts would go crazy.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
10:00 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am
6 days in Florida, nice to see so many whites with Obama signs stickers in their yards, goes to show the difference between the Geogia bigots who still vote against their interest because they hate Obama, even though the last 2 gov in Georiga has destroyed this state
__________________________

Yes, because one must be a racist to vote against Obama.

well played.

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
10:00 am

Wonder why it took CIA this long to release timeline hmmmmmm?
It’s not like the story is new???????
Did it take them this long to put that timeline together?

Ummmmm….. if you were following the story, you would know that it took time for FBI investigators to get into Benghazi to start the investigation. Why would the CIA declassify and relase information before investigations could be done into the incident? Only incompetent people or people pushing an ideological meme would want information released before the investigation could be completed.

bookman parrot

November 5th, 2012
10:00 am

To monroe
November 5th, 2012
9:26 am
You sound as “racist” as any those you accuse that don’t want your messiah Democrat in office.
Just stating the facts. Just the facts.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:01 am

“Even drudgey has abandoned this issue.”

Drudge??? that’s sooooooooo 1990s …

now, it’s all about Breitbart, babbee …

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:02 am

Obama is a divider? Were you on meth when Romney said he didn’t have to care about 47% of the country?

Fox induced hysteria over Benghazi

November 5th, 2012
10:02 am

[...] induced hysteria over Benghazi And LOTS of lies……. http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blo…azi-collapses/ Excerpt: But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, [...]

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
10:02 am

IF Romney wins do we all get magic underwear?

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
10:02 am

Fox News is the only channel that is reporting what needs to be reported. The real news about Libia is how the president did not listed to warnings and beefed up security at all the emabassy’s in hot spots.

Pay attention please. The US Embassy is in Tripoli. Benghazi was a Consulate. They are not one and the same. Beefing up Embassy security would have done diddly squat for security in Benghazi.

Geez… You would think Fox News would know the difference between an embassy and consulate and have the common sense to educate their viewers.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:03 am

“Why would the CIA declassify and relase information before investigations could be done into the incident?”

if they released it early, it would indicate a cover-up

if they release it late … it indicates a cover-up

heads, I win

tails, you lose.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 5th, 2012
10:04 am

Ragnar: “Leftists wish this Benghazi thing would just go away ”

This leftist doesn’t.

I hope for it to remain on the front burner and be fleshed out at great length.

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
10:04 am

I noticed this and I believe I noted it yesterday. When the final weekend
polls came out Sunday at 11am, all the sudden Faux ‘news’ suddenly
on a dime dropped the breathless 24/7 lying and had two solid hrs
of Obama butt kissing. Me & mrsstsimons sat speechless on the
couch for 30 min.

I broke the silence with “Are we on planet kolob?”

larry

November 5th, 2012
10:04 am

I still haven’t read any out rage over the 12 embassy attacks and the loss of life of the previous adminstration.

Dont tell me you are just out raged over the attack of a consulate under THIS admininstration.
I also havent read very much over the budget cuts by the Republican house for embassy and consulate security. I guess security doesnt cost money.

“We have to cut somewhere”.

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

November 5th, 2012
10:05 am

Worst President ever……..based on results all others have been measured by. If you like some big ole guvment tit, he’s yo man.

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
10:05 am

gm<———–racist

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:05 am

flagboy?

No one expects anything different from Georgia conservatives voters, not ever electing any minorties as Sen or Gov speaks for itself.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:06 am

“Worst President ever……..based on results all others have been measured by”

yep. George Herbert Walker Bush sure was.

Road Scholar

November 5th, 2012
10:06 am

Real Talk:”Not Many Obama Stickers on peoples cars around here. Funny…”

Not many Romney/Ryan bumper stickers or yard signs either! Now that’s funny! Esp in a red state. I suppose Obama voters didn’t want their cars vandalized by conservative nut jobs based on how evident they are based on their responses on this blog!

I still have this question: Why on the anniversary of 911, did the Ambassador feel he just HAD to be in Benghazi? He knew his security was weak. He had no “cavalry” to save the day. He had to suspect the local security forces.

Oh and those who have stated “Obama killed the ambassador” you have forgotten the NRA mantra…guns do not kill, it is the person holding it that kills!

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:06 am

Geez… You would think Fox News would know the difference between an embassy and consulate and have the common sense to educate their viewers.

Geez, now Brocephus has lost HIS ever l;loving mind……… Damn Bro, what makes you think thta FOX even remotely want an educated viewer? I fine you 100 blog point for gross incompetence. One USUALLY looks to a talk radio puppet for such an offense…….

:mrgreen:

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
10:07 am

9,000 parents who don’t have their children any more over Chimpy
McWarhardon’s duh excellent Iraq adventure –

they’re not impressed with your sudden faux outrage, cons

digusting really

I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not

November 5th, 2012
10:07 am

Old Mark T………We’re all racists if we vote for Romney. That’s a given on here anyway.

deegee

November 5th, 2012
10:07 am

“Rasmussen points out another number: 27 percent of Americans say the upcoming election has negatively affected their personal relationship with a friend or family member.”

Isn’t that approximately the same percentage associated with the hard core Republican base?

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
10:07 am

Fred

My bad….. :oops:

Krystal'sBalls

November 5th, 2012
10:08 am

@Real Talk

Who would want to “F” up their nice automobile with a BUMPER STICKER that they WORK so hard for to purchase and maintain?? Not me!

That might give you a little insight.

Rickster

November 5th, 2012
10:08 am

For years the left chanted “Bush Lied – People Died.”

Now, the right can chant “People Died – Obama Lied”

Of course, the first statement has been proven false. British Intelligence did in fact show Hussein gtried to by uranium.

The second statement has been proven true.

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

If anybody wants to see the real Mitt – hint, Jesus rules from Missouri.

http://youtu.be/TxMD02zU9SE

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

13 Americans embassy attacks under W not a single word from fox and bigots,

Mark T when ever someone presents facts to you right wing nuts jobs they are racist, gets old”””

GT

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

In an interview last night on 60 Minutes we had a discussion on the divisiveness of modern politics. The program brought in the leaders of the Senate from but parties and they literally looked like a set of twins. They both smirked and talked very guardedly about their contribution to the gridlock and the interviewer kept asking the questions as if the American public wanted this or that and wanted to know why they weren’t getting it. Never once did the 60 Minutes interviewer venture the opinion that a divisive press may be doing a lot of the damage. News made to order, paid for to back whatever opinion you wish to have for that day. Now you have two entirely different camps listening to two entirely different sets of “facts” tailored to their needs. I am sure we had this in the south before the War Between the States, the Atlanta paper backing human slavery, state’s rights to this slavery, and there were many a good Christian person who was sucked in by it. Not since the Civil War have we had this unifact reporting, returning us to those days where people strutted their immoral, misguided views in public and just like those times you have two countries forming in this country again. Once again you see a church landing on the wrong side of these issues, to stay popular with the masses. We need a way to force the honesty issue which there will be days neither side will enjoy nor want to hear it. Stop having news run out of the entertainment side of the network.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

Dear cons,

Our President whooped you again.

Self deport.

Thanks.

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

85% of Faux viewers are over 65 (Arbitron dot com)

tick…tick….tick….Ti-i-i-ime……..

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

Obama effed that Benghazi thing up as badly as could be done. Even the liberal CNN posted the wire transcripts that prove that the administration knew what was going on and lied.
If I were a democrat, I wouldn’t even mention Benghazi, because obama messed up big time, period. There is nothing you can do about that fact.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:10 am

““Rasmussen points out another number: 27 percent of Americans say the upcoming election has negatively affected their personal relationship with a friend or family member.””

facebook has been some serious kind of ugly for the last month

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:11 am

3500 Americans dead under W on American soil, 4 Americans dead off American soil, right wing nut jobs this is not even close.

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
10:12 am

so many sockpuppets, so few letters in the alphabet….

No sockpuppet Wednesday! join the movement!

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
10:12 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:59 am
If Mitt is elected all minorties should let poor, middle class whites go fight and die in the wars that he will , while his sons take their family vacation

those are facts?…na, thats a racist statement

dmartin72266

November 5th, 2012
10:12 am

Yeah. Nobody screwed up. Ambassadors get killed all the time. You horrible right-wingers, don’t you know a movie killed those people. A movie, I tell you.

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:12 am

85% of Faux viewers are over 65 (Arbitron dot com)

tick…tick….tick….Ti-i-i-ime……..
———————
early onset Alzheimers?

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:13 am

No defending FOX on the whole “no nonunion utilities allowed in Sandy clean-up”…I even bought that BS…looks less and less like anything other than poor communication re the Benghazi issue…I’m sure more alledged facts will surface from both sides…

FINN

If Romney wins, do we get our own planet or just a plot on his? If Obama wins, what are the current odds on time it will take to cut deficit? If Romney wins, what are the current odds on time it will take to cut the annual deficit?

We will continue accepting dysfunctional outcomes from dysfunctional system regardless…too bad no one in DC has the balls to effect real change…both are following traditional strategies, both are suspect in outcomes….we need balls in DC to figure it out…like that will happen.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:13 am

No attacks on the Homeland, no economic collapse, no scandals or losing wars.

Even the cons know our President is a keeper.

Four more years!

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
10:13 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
9:55 am
6 days in Florida, nice to see so many whites with Obama signs stickers in their yards, goes to show the difference between the Geogia bigots who still vote against their interest because they hate Obama, even though the last 2 gov in Georiga has destroyed this state.

facts…nope…racist statement

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
10:14 am

Just a gut feeling i have, I think, on the Presidential side, the race in Georgia will be too close to call for most of the night come Tuesday. I may be wrong, but its just a gut feeling i have.

If we’re going with predictions for calling Georgia for Romney I’ll go with 7:00PM and 3 nanoseconds

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
10:14 am

” British Intelligence did in fact show Hussein gtried to by uranium.”

Con logic – “gtried to by uranium” = “weapons of mass destruction”.

Seriously, dude? Wow!

Mick

November 5th, 2012
10:14 am

brosephus

Alabama with nick satan just keeps rolling…we will have a not so nice welcoming committee when arrives here for the orange bowl! Go ducks!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:15 am

“Yeah. Nobody screwed up. Ambassadors get killed all the time. You horrible right-wingers, don’t you know a movie killed those people. A movie, I tell you.”

too bad the GOP-led Congress has been cutting financial support for embassy security.

but, yeah, you’re right – it’s ALLLLLL Obama’s fault.

Butch Cassidy (I)

November 5th, 2012
10:16 am

Realtalk – “Not Many Obama Stickers on peoples cars around here.”

Wow, can’t find many Obama stickers in a red state. Shocker! Hey Real, did you know that there aren’t many bibles in Iran?

Michael B

November 5th, 2012
10:16 am

I noticed that a previous comment regarding the dozen embassy attacks during Bush went unanswered – very interesting, looks like the wingnuts have no answer for that either. Also, Marty – please get back to work

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
10:16 am

dmartin72266

November 5th, 2012
10:16 am

Also, if this is what happens when the administration does everything right, can you imagine how bad it will be when they DO screw up?

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deegee

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

I would bet that 50% of the 85% are over 80. The only time that Fox News isn’t blaring away in the activity room of my mother’s old folks home is when they are showing a re-run of Casablanca.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

Rickster — “Of course, the first statement has been proven false. British Intelligence did in fact show Hussein gtried to by uranium.”

Trying to buy uranium does not = weapons development program. :roll:

Maybe you could show us where all of Saddam Hussein’s centrifuges were?

Ohright, didn’t actually have any.

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

Krystal’s Balls… Probally one of those people that spend all of your money on Your car and air jordans but still live in an Apartment. I understand. Keep hoping for Change.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

GT

November 5th, 2012
10:09 am

In an interview last night on 60 Minutes………

+++++++++++
Sorry, I quit reading after that. I didn’t know folks still watched that lie packed show. To me they are as credible as FOX……….

dmartin72266

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

A movie, I tell you!

Darone

November 5th, 2012
10:18 am

even with fox making up lies, it will not help the racist republicans. Look for an easy reelection for the President! He needs 4 more years to clean up all the bush problems.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:18 am

AD

Agreed but remember how the typical lifespan is growing…they also vote…..

Welcome to the Occupation

November 5th, 2012
10:18 am

“Liberal Chicks are UGLY”:

Hey kid, with your still developing little cranium, aren’t you supposed to be in school right now? By my watch you’ve been due for 3rd period oh about 19 min now, better get hoppin.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:19 am

That’s not true
Must of come from Fox

rc

November 5th, 2012
10:19 am

Not hardly J bird. You always lie to cover PresBO
How about we ship your backside over to Bengahzi to practice your BS!!

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
10:20 am

…based on results all others have been measured by.

For the Bush voting meat, opinions = results.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:20 am

“““We can have these tax cuts and still have trillions in surplus…””

the Iraq war will pay for itself in oil … also a knee-slapper”

all we go to do is require UsinUk to pay for her own birth control pills.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:20 am

“The only time that Fox News isn’t blaring away in the activity room of my mother’s old folks home is when they are showing a re-run of Casablanca.”

I’m shocked! SHOCKED to find FOX news in an old-folks home!!

(sorry, I had to)

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
10:20 am

Donovan

November 5th, 2012
9:54 am

The investigation is going on right now. Should they say today we are done and there’s nothing there, you clowns would be saying “cover up”.

I am just amazed at the time frame you cons have for anything related to the Obama administration. It took nearly 20 years to come out of the Great Depression, the Japanese economy has yet to recover from it’s “recession” of the 80’s, yet President Obama was suppose to correct this calamity in 4 years, Now there is supposed to be answers for the deaths of 4 Americans in a foreign country, without a stable government to provide assistance in the drop of a hat.

I’ll never understand the pass you cons gave to Bush/Cheney after 9/11 which took the lives of 3000+ Americans. But in your world that makes since. “….it’s a wonderful world”, Ray Charles version.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:21 am

Mark T

12 years of rep Gov in Georgia, last or next to last in every catagory from jobs to education but Georgia conservatives continue to vote rep, facts not racist, typical blind georgia southerner conservatives.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
10:21 am

“Are you a complete and utter moron or do you just lack the reasoning abilities to figure out that she is a US CITIZEN who LIVES in Great Britain at this time?

Or in your typical Republican manner do you just wish to trample all over the constitutional right of our fellow citizens because YOU don’t agree with them and lack the reasoning ability to debate with them?”

Thanks, I couldn’t figure that out for the life of me. I thought USinUK was a misspelling of ustink. Being a republican I am really dim-witted and only can function after getting my fill of Fox news each day. There – doesn’t that fit your canned stereotype better?

Actually I can’t debate with shear ignorance and those who sit on a pedestal looking down on those who disagree with them and shout the same mantras over and over again.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:21 am

Dang, I missed the obl movie.

Good thing I already know the ending.

obl is dead and GM is alive.

Four more years!

deegee

November 5th, 2012
10:21 am

I considered putting a FORWARD sign in my yard but I was afraid of what would happen to my house and cars.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:21 am

“all we go to do is require UsinUk to pay for her own birth control pills.”

I use an IUD … but thank you for your concern.

(oh, and if people are paying for their insurance premium, THEY ARE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN BIRTH CONTROL PILLS)

dmartin72266

November 5th, 2012
10:22 am

Why won’t anyone listen to me? A movie killed them. It’s all the movie’s fault! We arrested the movie guy. For crying out loud, people!

Verbal Kint

November 5th, 2012
10:22 am

larry

November 5th, 2012
10:04 am
I still haven’t read any out rage over the 12 embassy attacks and the loss of life of the previous adminstration.

———————————————————————-

How many Americans were killed in those 12 attacks? It would be interesting to compare.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
10:23 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:05 am
flagboy?

No one expects anything different from Georgia conservatives voters, not ever electing any minorties as Sen or Gov speaks for itself.
_______________________________

Right, right. you have proven your point that one must be racist to vote against Obama.

Well done.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:23 am

” I thought USinUK was a misspelling of ustink. Being a republican I am really dim-witted and only can function after getting my fill of Fox news each day. There – doesn’t that fit your canned stereotype better? Actually I can’t debate with shear ignorance ”

um. yep. you DO fit our stereotype.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:23 am

DARORN

Of what use is it to bring up racism in this election? Obama may well win but those constantly raising the race issue are concerning to me if Obama loses…suggesting all GOP’s are racist is like suggesting all of BO supporters vote for him for the free goodies…neither is true.

Cheap shots both of them…

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:24 am

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

Krystal’s Balls… Probally one of those people that spend all of your money on Your car and air jordans but still live in an Apartment. I understand. Keep hoping for Change.
+++++++++++++++++++

Here is a typical Republican talk radio listener. In order for him to feel “good” about himself he has to insult someone else. Notice the code words? “Spend more on car and air jordans.” What he means, but lacks the balls to just come out and say is that Krystal’s balls is Black. Like being Black is a shameful thing.

The hate and bigotry the right oozes from every pore is alarming………….

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:25 am

L. nightmare – what does “shear ignorance” mean? Is that something that pilots must worry about?

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
10:25 am

USinUk. . i have to ask. . . whereabouts in the UK are you? I spent a year in Birmingham. . .it was, in a word, depressing.

Jackie

November 5th, 2012
10:25 am

Does anyone really BELIEVE the government is going to release highly sensitive and classified information concerning foreign policy?

Where does one find this information real-time?

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:26 am

You lost cons.

Are you going to be better sore losers this time or keep up your bs for 16?

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:26 am

flagboy?

not ever electing any minorties as Sen or Gov speaks for itself. These facts will never change, you can dress it up all you want to, if its a duck call it a duck,

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
10:26 am

“Sorry, I quit reading after that. I didn’t know folks still watched that lie packed show. To me they are as credible as FOX……….”

Could you lib-turds come up with something other than “they lie” as a theme in your arguments?

Mark T

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

Current and former intelligence officials tell Fox News that a classified State Department cable sent Aug. 16 — and which said the Benghazi consulate could not defend against a “coordinated attack” — would certainly have gone to the White House National Security Council staff.

“The National Security Council sees everything,” a former senior intelligence official told Fox News. “The staff are sitting on top of all the cable traffic which means the national security advisor (Tom Donilon) and deputy national security advisor (Denis McDonough) have some explaining to do. If Libya was of interest to this administration, the national security staff saw it.”

Current and former intelligence officials said that North Africa — specifically the growing lawlessness in eastern Libya, the sizable CIA presence and the estimated 20,000 loose weapons — were of keen interest to the White House national security team and the intelligence community. There is growing evidence that the attack was designed to flush out any remaining western influence in eastern Libya, and specifically the growing CIA presence.

“To have not read it would be negligent,” the former senior intelligence official said.

Fox must have paid them tom say that…stay classy libs

Mr. Snarky

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

I’m SHOCKED, SHOCKED by all this I tell you! SHOCKED!

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

flagboy – I spend 11 years in Birmingham. It was very depressing, but you could always do your Christmas shopping during the Auburn/Alabama game.

TiredOfIt

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

Peach Tree Ridge HS in Gwinnett (Sugar Loaf area) voted for Obama in a mock school election. Could Gwinnett go blue?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

Note that if you see improprieties at voting locations tomorrow, use your cell phones to shoot video and that video can be posted at:

http://www.videothevote.org/

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:27 am

FRED

I couldn’t agree more on 60 Minutes which I generally loathe..however the interview that aired with Clown Reid and Joker McConnell epitomized dysfunction of voters

However, the piece on McCollough was awesome..he’s my favorite historian…pretty amazing stuff…of course I was only watching waiting on the falcons game to start

Mr. Snarky

November 5th, 2012
10:28 am

The cons were hoping this would be Obama’s Iran Hostages.
I’m glad to disappoint.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
10:28 am

Where does one find this information real-time?

FoxNews, drudgey, fincherstew, breitbart….

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:28 am

L. nightmare – you don’t want people to point out when Fox lies? Makes sense.

Citizen of the World

November 5th, 2012
10:28 am

Stephen Colbert did a hilarious parody of the Fox News bunch and the way they gin up these issues by just repeatedly asking speculative questions over and over and trying to pass it off as actual reporting.

Combine that with the “they/critics/some people are saying” tactic and you have a time-honored technique of introducing a lot of unsubstantiated hooey into the minds of your viewers without doing any true investigative reporting or presenting any actual facts. The fact that so many people are taken in by this shows the need for some media analysis education starting in grammar school, probably.

Fox News viewers, I know you want to believe that you are getting the straight poop, but all you are getting, really, is poop.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:28 am

From the war college: proxy war for dummies. Set up theater of conflict away from your weakest defense, ie Iraq, invade, wave flag and invite your enemy to attack. Trail bread crumbs to there attack points and destroy. Add create cover story ie WMD’s. It worked perfectly. But it’s expensive. Add creating homeland security and TSA and you have created debt. Not criticizing what President Bush did, just don’t vote out a good honest President because he has to pay for it.

Eileen Sullivan-Katz

November 5th, 2012
10:29 am

Really, Fox news lies? I am an independent voter. I voted for Bush. When he lied about Iraq I was out raged. I then voted for Obama. Now Obama is covering his lies about Benhgazi. I have been following this since day one when our trusted president told us the attack was all over a video. I drank the kool aide. Then more and more came out. Of course then all questions regarding Benhgazi will be answered after the election. Why not now? We new every minute detail after Bin laden was killed, even pictures of the situation room.
This is a cover up. If Obama is reelected do we really want to be discussing his lies for the next four years? Our country is falling off the clift financially. Before you vote or put your own spin on Benhgazi, do your homework. I have and our president is lying to all of us.

paulo977

November 5th, 2012
10:29 am

Granny Golly….”.I can see the righties are unhappy that President Obama
missed what they saw as an opportunity to drop some bombs on human beings.”
_________________________________________________________

Very well put Granny …..this is what the “righties ” are all about …… Here at home it is all about starving to death the weakest in the society !!

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
10:29 am

Could you lib-turds come up with something other than “they lie” as a theme in your arguments?

The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
10:30 am

“Could you lib-turds come up with something other than “they lie” as a theme in your arguments?”

Have you presented any facts in regards to this article to refute what was stated?

deegee

November 5th, 2012
10:30 am

Fox News listeners believe that Hannity has binders of ex-generals and CIA agents that hang out with their ex-coworkers and they discuss highly classified information over a pastrami sandwich and a beer. That’s how they get their foreign policy scoop.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:30 am

L. “Nightmare” — “Could you lib-turds come up with something other than “they lie” as a theme in your arguments?”

Why should we cast our pearls before swine? It’s the same argument *your* side is using. (laughing, pointing) :D

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
10:30 am

“You lost cons.

Are you going to be better sore losers this time or keep up your bs for 16?”

Hmmm, which side is talking about rioting and assassinating if their man doesn’t win?? The question on every one on the rights mind is; “how long before the first riot starts when Romney wins?”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

do we really want to be discussing his lies for the next four years?

So, if we vote for Romney you folks will shut up about this made-up BS? Really? Promise?

Mr. Snarky

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

Was Vince Foster sited at Benghazi? I’m sure this is somehow related.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

dmartin72266

Still no bites.

Try different bait, if you want to continue to troll.

The Truth

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

You’ve written a nice little piece about Fox News and the misreported “cowardice” of Obama, the CIA reports, Special Ops, Navy Seals, etc. A few days ago D. Ignatius published a Washington Post article, writing among other things: “It’s a story of individual bravery, but also of a CIA misjudgment in relying on Libyan militias and a newly formed Libyan intelligence organization to keep Americans safe in Benghazi. While there were multiple errors that led to the final tragedy, there’s no evidence that the White House or CIA leadership deliberately delayed or impeded rescue efforts.”

Now maybe you’ll consider writing an article about the truth. The truth about Obama’s, Hillary’s, Jay Carney’s and Susan Rice’s lying for 2 weeks about the anti-muslim film, better known as “the video” that supposedly caused the riot that caused the Benghazi mob-induced “random” September 11th attack that killed Ambassador and three other American heroes. Of course, as we all know or at least we all should know (the media other than Fox News has tried their darndest to not publish the truth), it was known almost immediately that the Benghazi attack was a well-planned terrorist attack, not random mob violence.

On September 12th Hillary Clinton stated that “some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet….”

On September 14th White House press secretary Jay Carney said: ”We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent.”

Why would the Admnistration send out Susan Rice for several days to unequivocally claim the attack was video, mob-induced? On September 16th, Susan Rice spoke at the United Nations stating: “We do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned….Our current best assessment, based on the information that we have at present, is that, in fact, what this began as, it was a spontaneous – not a premeditated – response to what had transpired in Cairo… .”

Finally, on September 19th the Director of National Intelligence before Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs stated under oath: “They were killed in the course of a terrorist attack on our embassy. …”

Yet also on September 19th, Carney continued to plead ignorance stating: “… Right now I’m saying we don’t have evidence at this point that this was premeditated or preplanned …”

And then finally on September 20th, nine days after the obviously preplanned Benghazi attack, Carney stated: “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack. Our embassy was attacked violently, and the result was four deaths of American officials.” (Interesting that all of a sudden it became self-evident in one day?)

Hillary finally admitted on September 21st, 10 days after the attack: “… what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.

Yet on September 25th, when he was on “The View” and was asked about Hillary’s terrorist attack statement, Obama said: “We’re still doing an investigation. There’s no doubt that (with) the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault, that it wasn’t just a mob action. We don’t have all the information yet, so we’re still gathering it….

Why wouldn’t he just come out and tell the truth? Here he was, 2 weeks after the attack, after Hillary and Carney both had finally come forth and admitted it was a terrorist attack, yet he couldn’t flatly state that it clearly was a well-planned terrorist attack?

Have you given any thought to writing about this? Are you in the least bit concerned why the administration would go to such lengths to cover up the truth? Do you care? Maybe this is bigger than Watergate and quite frankly, it doesn’t really compare – remember no one was killed at Watergate. Are you teetering on journalistic “cowardice” (to use your word) and irresponsible misreporting by not reporting on this? Or are you simply willing to let this aspect of the administration’s botching and coverup of the Benghazi attack to go unreported because you like some much of the other media are doing your best to protect the very poor excuse we have as President of the United States and his Administration?

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

Nightmare, apparently thinks that he is relevant.

And scary.

In one manner of speaking, he is!

Debbie Bowdish

November 5th, 2012
10:31 am

I can not believe the lack of coverage over what happened in Libya and the President of the US not being charged with something etc.etc. I’m just an average American women who follows Fox News daily , sometimes hourly to understand what is happening around the world and in the USA, thank you very much Fox…This election is not about what’s right for America but rather vote for me because I’ve done nothing!!!
I’m now wondering what President Obama statement ment, vote for REVENGE, what are his true colors coming out? Who is predudice now I wonder? Is this infact what he’s saying underneath it all? What does he want revenge for, it’s really mind boggleing to say the least…
I’m a Registered Conservative, but soon will change to a Republican and vote totally Republican for sure…Put your THINKING CAPS ON AMERICANS!!!Mitt Romey all the way…

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:32 am

psssssttttttt Willie Lynch: It’s Louis Armstrong who did Wonderful World. Israel Kamakawiwo`ole’ did the second best version of it, but no one can top ole Louis…….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xoMhCT-7A

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:32 am

Eileen – you need to do your homework. No, I don’t mean on Benghazi, I mean that, based on your post, you probably need to go back to school, take some English classes and do your homework.

Man behind the Curtain

November 5th, 2012
10:32 am

Can you say “wag the dog”? White men are such willing dogs to wag. Would have been putty in Hitler’s hands.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
10:32 am

This fact remains – the embassy told the administration they were vulnerable to attack before hand and received no help. They asked for help during the attacks and received none. Obama is a failed Prez…………. naive to the realities of this world and naive as to how the economy works. He is a socialist, big gub’ment failure.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:33 am

Whats amazing when the storm came thru Tuscaloosa, Alabama a couple of years ago Obama had to go there and help those people, you did not hear one rep southerner rep say we dont need Femma or Obama.

These righties are the worse hypocrites ever, when the next disaster comes to Georgia these Obama haters and bigots better hope hope he is in office because Mitt is going to let their homes and trailers float along 75.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:33 am

“USinUk. . i have to ask. . . whereabouts in the UK are you? I spent a year in Birmingham. . .it was, in a word, depressing.”

hahaha … no kidding!! I’m in London – work in Hammersmith and live in the Surrey ‘burbs

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:33 am

Real Americans want to get the terrorists.

cons want to get our President

And they blame losing on a storm.

It is bs like this cons.

That is why you lost.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
10:33 am

gm – you’ve proven yourself to be a fool, and i’m not one to say that lightly because the fact that any of us think posting crap on an AJC blog is worthwhile makes all of us a little foolish. But you’re a step beyond most.

I won’t be debating with you. If it makes you sleep better at night to think that race is the only reason why someone wouldn’t vote for Obama, fine. sleep well.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:33 am

L. Nightmare — “Hmmm, which side is talking about rioting and assassinating if their man doesn’t win??”

The right.

Plenty of talk like that all over the right-wing blogosphere this past weekend; they’re already planning what to do when (they claim) Obama “steals” the election.

Never any consideration from them than Romney could get his hiney beat; no, if the black guy wins, it MUST be because he cheated and stole the election. :roll:

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
10:34 am

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
10:34 am

IF Romney wins do we all get magic underwear?

No, but I hear you get a set of itchy long johns. Libruls get broom straws sewed into the crotch.

Butch

November 5th, 2012
10:34 am

Hard to believe these Fox haters whine about dishonesty and stupidity when they spend most of their time over at MSNBC watching the likes of Al Sharpton…….

Resist We Much!!

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:34 am

And how does the president deliver a speech to the United Nations 13 days later where he references that anti-Islam video six times when referring to the attack in Benghazi?

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
10:35 am

Monroe – “White racists will go home”…… and what will the Black racists do? This election is not about the RACE CARD. It’s about the economy and Obama’s failed “plan” for recovery. FIRE OBAMA!

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:35 am

BOB

How much longer will your party blame and deflect to BUSH? GEEZ, sounds more like 4 more years of blaming BUSH..happy daze….easy now to monday morning quarterback on the mistakes BUSH made…but constant comparison to BUSH simply indicates a very low bar your guy is being held to…both took credit when positive despite having zero credible evidence (jobs..economy) that presidents have any control over same….

If he wins, maybe he can make time to honor 2008 macro promises….most of which were complete BS…saying anything to get elected…they are all the same..

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
10:35 am

yeah London is a peg or two above B’ham i reckon.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:35 am

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
10:26 am

Could you lib-turds come up with something other than “they lie” as a theme in your arguments?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I thought there were rules here against name calling. I don’t feel that I should have to be abused and be called excrement because someone lacks debating skills.

Jay?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:36 am

“Morality” — “This fact remains – the embassy told the administration they were vulnerable to attack before hand and received no help.”

Here are some more facts for you. The *embassy* is in Tripoli. The ambassador was killed in Benghazi, several hundred miles away. Additional security at the *embassy* would not have helped the *ambassador.*

Pay attention to detail, please.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:36 am

Why wasn’t it news after the president said what he said in the second debate, knowing what they had in that “60 Minutes” tape — why didn’t they use it then? And why is it taking Fox News to spur other media organizations to take the Benghazi story seriously?

Ad

November 5th, 2012
10:36 am

Look, Obama could have Osama bin Laden killed and some of these idiots would think he’s still not doing his job.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:37 am

Fred – 10:32 – sorry, but second after Louis Armstrong is Eva Cassidy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBBGSgO16M

Carlos

November 5th, 2012
10:37 am

Romney is part of the plot to get Obama re-elected!

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:38 am

Debbie Bowdish

Continue to stand in line with male conservatives who dont even think you derserve equaly pay for work, and by the way you are the 47% Mitt was talking about but have no pride or care what this man says about Americans.

If elected I hope you enjoy your sons or daughers going to war while his kids take summer vacation, you make me realize how mental conservative women are.

paulo977

November 5th, 2012
10:38 am

For FOX NEWS to dredge this up now is really an indication that there is desperation in the republican camp as all else has failed to turn away many from Obama . Unfortunately there are still many who will believe the lie …..But Karma is very powerful so they should beware!!!!

Mr. Snarky

November 5th, 2012
10:38 am

I have to say the rhetoric from the right, though scary and pathetic, is entertaining.
Some of you guys really have gone off the deep end.
Oh the bitterness and rending of garments if you lose.
Whatever you do, don’t read Nate Silver’s blog.

Jackie

November 5th, 2012
10:38 am

Reading the enclosed link gives the reader ample evidence as to the actual events that led up to President Bush’s assertion that Saddam Hussein “wanted” to buy “yellowcake.”

The reports from British Intelligence, the CIA and the Senate Intelligence Committee clearly show the whole affair hinged on an Italian document that proved to be false.

http://www.factcheck.org/bushs_16_words_on_iraq_uranium.html

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:39 am

I’m a Registered Conservative, but soon will change to a Republican and vote totally Republican for sure…Put your THINKING CAPS ON AMERICANS!!!Mitt Romey all the way…

What’s more fun than regular lies are “registered” lies. Can someone PLEASE tell me how one “registers” to be a Conservative?

LOL They need to find smarter sock puppets. The right is getting desperate with all the sock puppet “women” today.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:39 am

mitt tried Penn. because he lost the swing States.

He will lose Penn. too.

They call this one around 9 pm for our President again.

Start acting like Americans instead of lying racists zombies and you might win 16 cons.

Or not. Your choice.

Liberal Nightmare

November 5th, 2012
10:39 am

“Why should we cast our pearls before swine? It’s the same argument *your* side is using. (laughing, pointing) ”

Referencing the Bible – impressive for a lib – or did you even know it was a reference from the NT?

Actually “my side” can say the O-dumber lied and back it up:

“I didn’t raise taxes once.”

When President Franklin D. Roosevelt started Social Security, “it only affected widows and orphans,” and when Medicare began, “it was a small program.”

On preventive care “saves money.”

Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.

I could go on, but this one is too easy.

GT

November 5th, 2012
10:40 am

To compare Benghazi to 9/11 is an insult to the people who suffered from 9/11. 9/11 actually saved the weak Bush administration and in doing so may have done more collateral damage to this country than just those buildings. Bush was put in office with a minority of the vote, by the Supreme Court. Not a very popular president and then the country were under attack, patriotism trumped witlessness, and we pulled together. If Benghazi was in any shape or form in this category or a crisis the American public would take form as it did in the 9/11 crisis and even the Sandy crisis and pull together. That the opposition does not find this a necessary mode of operation in itself either shows the right doesn’t sense this to be one of those kind of crisis or have absolutely no reverence for the kind of event they are now describing, and in a close election have become disparate.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:40 am

Dreams of the south:
Easier to dream of being a rich white man than a black president if your white. But dreaming won’t get you either. Mitt, son of a Govenor and auto executive, I’m sure he had to work for everything he’s got. You know, like every other millionaire. Waite that’s not true is it. 80% of all millionaires are made at birth. Yes, born into it. Let’s vote for a man whose claim is to have not lost his inheritance.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:40 am

Williebkind — “And why is it taking Fox News to spur other media organizations to take the Benghazi story seriously?”

I don’t think most other news organizations take FNC seriously in the first place, so your question is specious.

If you go walking around in Times Square, you can talk to some people who claim to have taken rides on flying saucers, but I don’t think even you would claim that those people are ’spurring’ us to take the alien invasion threat seriously.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
10:41 am

Fred

The “registered conservative” blogger is just parroting Hannity. That is the same exact words he uses.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:42 am

“sock puppet “women””

would that make them pantyhose puppets?

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:42 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:38 am

You are a liar, vile disgusting liberal with hate in your heart. I am so glad my kids are not liberal.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:43 am

175k jobs created last month, 800k lost every month under the last 3 mos of W, this is not about the economy this is about loyalty, and white conservatives dont have any when it comes to African American President, this is not minorties saying this, if you nut jobs turn off fox and bigots you will see the world thinks southern conservatives are racist and bigots.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
10:43 am

Obama and the Dems just pledged $1,000,000,000 U.S. tax dollars to the so called “Muslim Brotherhood” and they couldn’t afford to reinforce the defense of our embassies. The “Muslim Brotherhood” openly supports the destruction of Israel…….. is Obama a Christian? He opposes much of God’s truths on homosexuals, abortions, etc. He might be a Jane Fonda, Oprah so called Christian that reinvents the Bible to suit himself…. that’s my opinion – God will be his final judge.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:44 am

L. Nightmare — “Referencing the Bible – impressive for a lib – or did you even know it was a reference from the NT?”

Underestimating your opponents is why you lose, conservative. Please, continue to make that mistake. (laughing, pointing) :D

“Actually “my side” can say the O-dumber lied and back it up”

Actually, that’s called Moving The Goalposts; it’s a logical fallacy and a sign of desperation on your part. If you have evidence of the President lying about Benghazi, then trot it on out and stop wasting my time with bulldada about FDR. (giggling) :D

“I could go on, but this one is too easy.”

It certainly is. If you can’t stay on topic, it is simple indeed to knock your argument out from under you.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
10:44 am

willie,

They are libs.

They just do like you and lie to your face about it.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:45 am

USinUK: I have to disagree. I liked Eva, but she tried to showcase her voice to much in thta song, it just needs to be sung simply like it was written. But that is why we have chocolate and vanilla, and for the real strange folks, strawberry, because opinions and tastes vary.

I’ll bet we both agree that no one does it like Louis though. :lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:45 am

williebkind — “You are a liar, vile disgusting liberal with hate in your heart. I am so glad my kids are not liberal.”

A hit dog will holler. (laughing) :D

Proud American

November 5th, 2012
10:45 am

Lee, please go take your medicine.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:46 am

williebkind

Name one thing in my comments are not true? I have love in my heart, I call a duck a duck, people like you try to hide who you really are.

Citizen of the World

November 5th, 2012
10:46 am

A lot of these posters — The Truth, for example — use the same tactics as Fox News. Notice how the last two paragraphs of his post are just questions.

Freedom Riders 1961

November 5th, 2012
10:46 am

Advocates call burning of Freedom Riders sign a chance to unite

An act of vandalism this weekend that damaged a sign marking the site of one the darkest moments in Anniston’s history presents an opportunity to unite the community, religious leaders and civil rights activists said Sunday.

Volunteers on Sunday replaced part of a sign, damaged by fire Saturday night, marking the site of the planned Freedom Riders Park on the spot where a mob in 1961 burned a bus carrying civil rights demonstrators.

Pete Conroy, the co-chair of the park’s organizing committee, said the wooden sign announcing the park on Alabama 202 was burned by a fire set sometime Saturday night.

“It’s disappointing,” Conroy said. “But I think it emphasizes the need for understanding and education and the need for the kind of positivity that we’re trying to bring with this park.”

A back panel on the wooden sign was completely burned away. It told the story of the attack on Mother’s Day 1961, when a mob firebombed a bus carrying Civil Rights activists through the state testing a Supreme Court ruling mandating integration of travel facilities.

http://www.annistonstar.com/view/full_story/20715364/article-Advocates-call-burning-of-Freedom-Riders-sign-a-chance-to-unite?instance=home_lead_story

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:47 am

Oh so all Christians are Republicans. Yes YOU are why we the constitution proclaimed the need for separation of church and state.
Oh my.
Donate your social security check to the needy. Waite youre convinced theyre just lazy.
Bigots racist and hypocrites. It’s tough being white and non racist in the south. I have to hide.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
10:47 am

Morality

If God will be his final judge, you do not seem to be waiting for your God to do just that.

Did your God appoint you as a surrogate judge?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:47 am

USinUK:would that make them pantyhose puppets?

Woot!!!!!!!!! I think we have the phrase for the day. i love it, pantyhose puppets.

OBIWAN

November 5th, 2012
10:48 am

I really wish that you left wingnuts would just tell the truth, you don’t care that the 4 people killed or that the president lied for 2 weeks about it, when we all knew it was a lie. Isn’t that really the left wing truth? How can you possibly vote for this lying sack of s*&%t, could it be that you like people who lie? If Obozo had half a brain he would have said one thing, “When we have the facts we will let the American people know.” But let’s make up a lie and tell the world that lie, at the UN, and then throw Hilary under the bus… Does that show you this guy’s character, oh I forgot, the left likes people who lie to them, and throw their allies under the bus…. My mistake…

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
10:49 am

Fred (gasping) – you don’t like Eva???

but, yeah, you’re right, it’s all personal taste. I think she was amazing – truly a loss.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:49 am

JHM:

That is not an argument! Fox is the leading cable news and yet there are many who never watch but receive huge amounts of misinformation about Fox therefore having an opinion based on false intelligence. We call it redirecting. Also call it deceiving.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

For every gub’ment “created job there are 75 added to the food stamp rolls and the those on disability have tripled under Obama. To Obama one person moved from the unemployment rolls to gub’ment disability is another gub’ment created job. FIRE OBAMA!

GeorgiaBoy

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

Have any of you Faux News lemmings considered that national security and the CIA’s ability to work behind the scenes might have been compromised (or at least complicated) by the early release of what we’re now being told what happened?
No?
Because Rush & Sean told you so?
I see.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

GM

Can you make a legitimate argument that BO or his policies have anything to do with jobs numbers? Credit for these kind of outcomes to the WH and policies is absurd…

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

OBIWAN — “How can you possibly vote for this lying sack of s*&%t, could it be that you like people who lie?”

I left the GOP after 20+ years of voting for Republicans because I got *tired* of people who lie.

DannyX

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

BREAKING…

Fox News- During the attack, Fox News reports that President Obama was aware of the situation unfolding in Benghazi, but instead of doing anything Obama sat frozen at his oval office desk unable stop reading his “My Pet Goat” book. Obama’s refusal to put down his book is said to have caused the death of four Americans.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:50 am

The thee motivators. Praise, shame and intimidation.
Fear is the big intimidator.
Used by poor parents bad all politicians.
Moderation people, moderation.
Where’s a good coach when you need one.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
10:51 am

willibkind

Based on your 10:49 post, are you able to provide substantiated information to refute what Jay’s articles states?

Show him up with facts. You do have them, right?

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
10:51 am

Libs, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, vote Obama. Don’t let any light seep in through your fingers as you try to hold them over your eyes, while also trying to plug your ears. The Obama spin machine leads the willfully uninformed.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:52 am

Morality?

Wow, and the white christian preachers we really should listen to them? I mean they hate Obama who is providing health care to sick women and children, and helping the poor, I’m sure God is really please with the rep party who is trying to stop these things.
This does not surprise anyone when it comes to white preachers like Billy Graham who supports Mitt, this is the same Billy who refuse to help Martin Luther King when he was getting his head beat in, or how about the white preachers who had a rope in one hand hanging blacks while holding the bible in the other hand.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
10:52 am

Rafe

Jay could be lying. If you think he is, refute him right quick so we can all get a chuckle.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:52 am

“A hit liberal dog will holler. (laughing) :D

There fixed you error.

John Locke

November 5th, 2012
10:52 am

Awesome story Jay. The administration has some explaining to do. Why our President’s Dept of State Rep Susan Rice suggested that this was in response to a video, while the President claims he said it was a terrorist attact, while his Press Secretary James Carney said the attack was in response to a video apparently contridicting the President has not been explained other than “fog of war” End of day both the President and Carney should have been on same page by day two. Not 10 days later. Still valid questions to be asked.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

“Fred – 10:32 – sorry, but second after Louis Armstrong is Eva Cassidy”

Gotta toss in the Marley version…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

Don’t let any light seep in through your fingers as you try to hold them over your eyes, while also trying to plug your ears.

We will be greeted as liberators.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself.
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

USinUK; I’m typing slowly since you missed it last time…… I DO like Eva, just not that song lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRNleKBDCNw&feature=related

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

Williebkind — “That is not an argument!”

Says you.

“Fox is the leading cable news”

1) Train wrecks draw crowds

2) Justin Bieber sells more records than Bach, Brahms and Beethoven put together, but classical music is still better than bubblegum pop.

“and yet there are many who never watch but receive huge amounts of misinformation about Fox therefore having an opinion based on false intelligence.”

How often do you watch MSNBC? How often do you read Mother Jones? How often do you read the Washington Post or the NY Times? Maybe *your* opinions are based on false intelligence.

“We call it redirecting. Also call it deceiving.”

And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
10:54 am

Capitalism and greed are not fundamentals of democracy. It’s just a by product and should not be used to determine the path of liberty. We are all Americans and none more special than the other according to the constitution.

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
10:54 am

Amazing that anyone would even listen, or watch Fox.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
10:54 am

williebkind

“Name one thing in my comments are not true?”

“Continue to stand in line with male conservatives who dont even think you derserve equaly pay for work”

Ok, give me a source and I wont call you progressive liberal liar.

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
10:55 am

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:32 am

Thanks for the correction.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:55 am

“A hit conservative dog hollered.” (laughing) :D

There. Fixed YOURS.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:56 am

STEVIE RAY

Oh now he should not get any credit for the numbers, but gets blame when the numbers are bad, do you people hear yourself? so if regulations are so bad why are CEO’s making record profits and wall street is on a 6 year high?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:57 am

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

“Fred – 10:32 – sorry, but second after Louis Armstrong is Eva Cassidy”

Gotta toss in the Marley version…
++++++++++++++++++++++++

And Mr. Strawberry speaks up lol. I had never heard it before Backwards Nick, but it’s got possibilities………… I just like it slower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0l84IJVPVI

Thulsa Doom

November 5th, 2012
10:57 am

Just another day of racial hatred coming from the kook left as usual with comments from GM and Monroe. Soooo predictable.

GT

November 5th, 2012
10:57 am

Morality? I think God has judged you already, and sentenced your poor soul with stupidity. Hell of a thing stupidity, it effects you vision, your hearing, even your looks, yet most people who have it don’t even know it. And it is a generational curse; it quiet often is passed from generation to generation, much like the tribe of Cane. I don’t know what you did to deserve such a severe case of it but not even Oral Roberts could cure what you’re sentenced with. One thing about stupidity it is general painless to the victim, but gives pain to others who are well and have to come in contact it.

independent thinker

November 5th, 2012
10:58 am

OBAMA WINS – Stock Market predicts winner on Tuesday (absent Republican shenanigans)-

“”"”"”"”"”"”"”There is a 94% chance you’re going to read that headline on Wednesday morning.

That’s because the direction of stocks has been a solidly reliable predictor of prior presidential elections.

For Mitt Romney, this is grim news indeed.

Though I’ve discussed the market’s ability to predict elections before, here’s a quick review:

When the stock market sported gains in the two months before the election, the incumbent was re-elected 15 of 16 times. Conversely, when the stock market declined during that time, the opposition won 10 of 12 races. The combined data, which InvesTech Research compiled, shows that the stock market predicted the next president a mind-blowing 25 of 28 times (89.2%).”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”

http://www.wyattresearch.com/article/obama-wins-

And how much is the stock market up since the day Obama was inaugurated???????

Romney folks better start rigging those voting machines they control. Turn away 180,000 legitimate minority voters like they did in 2000 in Florida- Get Scalia ready to write an opinion that Mitt’s civil rights were violated by Candy Crolie; Get Fox News to announce Obama ordered the killing of those folks in Bengazhi and has a Muslim prayer mat in the White House, Bill Clinton caught in the act with a campaign aide; Ryan discovers Medicare is out of funds; Biden diagnosed with early dementia- Hurricane Sandy directed to NJ by secret military operation; Ben Laden Alive and living in Benghazi; GM and Chrysler bought out by Chinese firm; Romney releases his tax returns and paid astounding amount of taxes!

C’mon cons something might just work.

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
10:58 am

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:56 am

Stop making sense.

gm

November 5th, 2012
10:58 am

williebkind

Did Paul Ryan not vote against the Ledbetter act? has Mitt the Liar ever come out and say he supports equal pay for women?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:59 am

Willie Lynch: No problem sir. When I checked I was hoping I was wrong because I would have loved to have heard Ray Charles sing that song. Hell ANY song, he was one of my favorites.

But when I checked all the Youtube versions that said Ray, they were Louis.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
11:01 am

“Amazing that anyone would even listen, or watch Fox.”
They should and I come to AJC. I have learned the progressive communists liberals have spent many hours educating themselves in propaganda and acquiring the ability to talk down to their own kind while keeping them as a base block for voting purposes. However I have also learned nothing is equal to them if it is not part of their agenda. Conservative women do not have equal rights as liberal women.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

GM

My point is that any and all presidents get too much undeserving credit for outcomes they have little or no control over..

Dodd Frank has nothing to do with profits…it is a failure because we lost and we still have 5 or so banks that are too big to fail….disaster of a risk to continue to take…why do you suppose Dodd Frank didn’t break them up (which would, among other things, create competition for banks to actually put meaningful money in play)?

They got money from all…particularly Goldmann…who basically dictates fiscal policy..

Jay

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

I know I’m going have to say this repeatedly over the next few days, but PLEASE: Do not stoop to name-calling and insults. It reflects poorly on you and on your political position and contributes to the nasty tone of our politics in general.

Plus, it will get you banned. And this would be a bad time to be banned.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

I gave an opinion and said God will be the final judge…. your side SUCKS. There is no Both Sides to you… outed you as an Obama supporting Liberal long ago. I am a fiscal conservative – did not vote for Obama or “W” as both are fiscal, big gub’ment liberals. Obama, along with the liberal congress, increased the Fed debt by $6,000,000,000,000 in just four short years and our economy is flat at best. There is no sign of a real recovery. Obama is a tax and spend SOCIALIST. Brain dead zombies for Obama follow him over the Fiscal cliff like lemmings.

Aquagirl

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

I think we have the phrase for the day. i love it, pantyhose puppets.

I think that should go in the permanent lexicon. We need a name for all these wives, girlfriends, next-door neighbors etc. our con menz cite as proof they know teh wimmen stuff. They have entire wardrobes full of these pantyhose puppets endorsing their every thought.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

gm:

You didnt get the memo?

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
11:03 am

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
10:53 am

And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.
__________________________________

. . .

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:03 am

Ah, I see now.

Kyle has a thread up about charter schools with only 100 or so comments, so in order to rant against Obama, the sock-puppets have to come here.

Too funny!

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:04 am

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
11:04 am

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
10:59 am

Yeah, I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part. Armstrong is great but maybe Ray would have laid down a great version too.

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
11:04 am

Conservative women do not have equal rights as liberal women.

-________________

Strange statement. I thought everyone had equal rights.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

Independent Thinker

Another item to consider is who will end up spending more to win this auction? History suggest in presidential and congressional elections, whoever spends the most has 94% chance of winning..

Also, don’t the Redskins have some play in this as well..??

O. Pinions

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

So what you are saying Jay is that we acted decisively, but we were just out planned, out maneuvered, out smarted, and then totally out gunned by a group of young people upset about a video.

Screw the news coverage about what did not happen. Just talk about what DID happened.

You seem to be saying that we did respond like the most powerful nation on earth, just way too late to be effective.

Cause no one could have read the August cable and thought we might be vulnerable and made any plans to respond if all hell broke loose on 9/11. Like the coordinated attack mentioned in the CABLE.

But President O led us fearllessly, and we did our very, very, very best but no options were available. Our ambassador and three other Americans just got lost in the fog of war and then killed. . . by a group of upset, well-armed video critics.

We really do just need to wait and read the comprehensive report. It will certainly make us feel better and give us a much more favorable version of the truth.

beam me up

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

I don’t watch television news, period. When I did, I blocked the Fox News channel just to be sure that I didn’t accidentally end up wasting my time on it. I did go to lunch last week in an establishment that had Faux News on, and I was really surprised that they were trying to make the Libya thing the top story. My only thought was “Huh. That’s weird. That hasn’t been news in weeks.” Later on I heard the whole thing explained as a Fox News generated non-controversy. The conservative echo chamber is a very peculiar place.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

“And Mr. Strawberry speaks up lol.”

I prefer the phrase “of eclectic taste.” :D

Welcome to the Occupation

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

Has a single person on this forum stepped back for one second to look at the broader picture here and ask not what this or that PARTY has to gain from any particular narrative but what the US foreign policy establishment might have to gain?

Unbelievable the inability of people here to actually step out of the little cage that has been constructed for you and look at things from maybe a broader and more historically informed perspective.

alex

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

Jay, instead of the same old partisan bull, write something that actually stimulates the thinking, for instance the Economist just released it’s endorsement for Obama, not exactly ringing ( the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t); none the less this comes from a slightly right of central-pro-business magazine of some influence. Will this change most people’s votes:NO, but at the very least could lead to some interesting perspectives……

barking frog

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

Hopefully, after tomorrow most of
this filthy prognosticating will stop.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
11:05 am

Aquagirl:

Do you believe conservative women have equal rights as progressive liberal women? If so explain it.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:06 am

But I agree – you can’t beat Satchmo’s!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
11:06 am

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:06 am

JAY

Thanks…name calling also signals concession of the debate to the name callee…

gm

November 5th, 2012
11:06 am

williebkind

What that buddy?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

Flagboy — “And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.”

You know nothing whatsoever about me, drive-by, so unless you’re going to engage me in a dialogue about myself, you’re just blowing smoke.

And last I checked, this was a non-smoking blog.

ER

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

I could not believe your comments regarding Benghazi and the death of four americans. Were did you aquire your information? And, Yes, you can move special forces within an hour off any carrier, outpost, etc. These special agents fought for 7 hours trying to stay alive thinking we were coming to save them. If one of the dead were your brother, son, father, cousin, etc., would you have researched it the same way you just attacked FOX News with your information? If you do not think this is a cover up or a major mistake in responding you are in another world. Try reporting with an open mind and do your own research as reporters use to do. Opinions or personal beliefs are not part of finding out the truth in journalism. Do yourself a favor, go back over the facts (memos, emails from the consulate and Stevens emails to the State Department) , Have you spoken to any of the actual people in charge who received the requests for help or the few who managed to get out with the help of the four who died, Also the White House and President said it was a terror attack during his third debate. Call him a lier…….. You are apparently very liberal and discount anything someone who is viewed as a conservative. How sad, I watch all news stations to get a feel of what our country is about. Unfortunately, people tend to take the word of mainstream media as gospel because they cannot form their own opinion, follow what their parents did or listen to neighbors.

Contact government offices connected to this scandal and use the “Freedom of Information Act” to acquire the documents to show the truth. It can’t be classified unless we are hinding something. When these Americans were killed they were on American soil, and the attack was considered an “An Act of War”. All countries have the same rights.

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:02 am

So are you supporting Romney?

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

My point is that any and all presidents get too much undeserving credit for outcomes they have little or no control over..

________

They can get too much credit and also too much blame. Same as football coaches and quarterbacks.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

Name calling. Not much thought goes into that. Most republicans don’t know what a liberal is, just like they don’t know the Georgia state flag is a replica of the original confederate flag. Hate prevents thought. Anger allows you to follow the path of least resistance. In English. The President nor the SOS could have done anything to prevent or save the ambassador in Lybia. But exploiting the dead is a political trademark. That’s why we keep abortions around when we have had birth control for 50yrs.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

GT – Off your lithium again I see. Your petty insults don’t bother me. Praying for your full recovery.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

Mitt Romney is proof some people would be willing to elect a cardboard cut out than see this man reelected Pres.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:08 am

Jay, instead of the same old partisan bull, write something that…

Go to blogspot.com.
Create your own blog.
“Write something that” you wish to discuss.

See how easy that is?

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:08 am

Morality

You respond in the manner you wish to respond in and I will do the same. Your comments are not immune from someone replying to them.

You will need to take that up with the AJC if you are so thin skinned that you feel you can post and not expect to have someone reply.

So I stand by my statement. You are questioning someone’s beliefs and I called you out. Will do it again if I feel inclined to do so.

I have called out several bloggers for speaking about Mormonism in a negative manner as well. You may or may not have read those post. That is your problem, not mine.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:08 am

R. Hollister — “You are being played for patsies, Libs.”

It’s sad to see an intelligent, educated man like Dr. Sowell fall so far. They *do* say that the mind is the first thing to go in old age.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
11:09 am

They have entire wardrobes full of these pantyhose puppets endorsing their every thought.

I’m all bumfuzzled. I thought it was “binders full.”

curious

November 5th, 2012
11:09 am

Morality?

Please tell us again how FDR was only elected twice and has his term extended by Congress due the the emergency of WW2.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:09 am

BEAM ME UP

I have a very hard time differentiating news from entertainment….when the media became news, the news became more than suspect…..who is trustworthy? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, NPR? IMO they all have about as much credibility as congress..

alex

November 5th, 2012
11:09 am

@ beam me up: a great example of confirming your bias….set your phazers on “stun”

Steve-USA

November 5th, 2012
11:11 am

STEVIE RAY@11:09

I agree.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:11 am

OSCAR

Truer words have never been spoken…it’s not an election, it’s an auction..

A vote for either is a vote for the status quo with is unacceptable…sad..

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
11:11 am

ER

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am

I could not believe your comments regarding Benghazi and the death of four americans. Were did you aquire your information? And, Yes, you can move special forces within an hour off any carrier, outpost, etc.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

He told you where he got his information. Fox made theirs up.

yes you CAn move Special Forces within an hour. But move them WHERE? You can’t move them from Fort Bragg to Benghazi in an hour.

Open oyur eyes and your mind please. You are being conned.

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
11:12 am

The “registered conservative” blogger is just parroting Hannity. That is the same exact words he uses.

In New York you register by party affiliation and there is a Conservative Party.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
11:12 am

wow, Rafe – Town Hall??? you don’t say!!!

next thing, you’ll point to Breitbart and the WashingtonTimes

UNCLE SAMANTHA

November 5th, 2012
11:12 am

THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS

Cox Enterprises makes more money from AUTOTRADE.com than it does from the AJC……………… will take the paper to online only in 1 year then sell it to NEWSCORP!!!!!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

November 5th, 2012
11:12 am

And so the melt down begins….

Mark in mid-town

November 5th, 2012
11:13 am

Whatever Fox News’ faults, they are one of the few news organizations attempting to do any real reporting on the issue, as opposed to accting like the Palace Guard for Obama. Lucky for you Jay, you’ve got lots and lots of company in the msm where most seem to view that their role is to protect Obama from anything damaging, regardless of how much of your souls you need to sacrifice in the process. Is this really why you got into journalism in the first place?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
11:14 am

How about we have a noon “cooldown” thread about Eva Cassidy and then another tooth and nail blow out to finish the afternoon and evening?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyQcQSqpbI&feature=related

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:15 am

RW

Can you register as a conservative here in GA? Maybe the blogger lives out of state or maybe just parroting Hannity just like a stated?

Never heard Hanitty mention the Conservative party, just conservative, however you could be correct.

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:15 am

Chimpy McWarhardon’s duh excellent Iraq adventure –

My work is done here.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:15 am

“And so the melt down begins….”

Granny, methinks it’s gonna be ugly through at least Thursday…desperate folks say desperate things…

pete

November 5th, 2012
11:16 am

Wow! What you call a “Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi”, I call 4 Americans killed by terrorists. No bias there, right Jay?

Bob

November 5th, 2012
11:16 am

Do you really believe the President just allowed them to die.
Really. Just didn’t think it was worth it. Really. Didn’t feel like blowing something else up and looking Presidential. Really.
All conspiratorist should rally behind those Irag WMD’s. Where were you when we invaded a country under false pretenses.
What a joke. Yes as you peak out from the sand people see and and hear FIRST what they want to hear.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:16 am

MORALITY @ 11:02

Wow, thats some solid, and really well thought out perspectives…I see a correlation between those with invisible friends and castigation of any with differing opinion

Your concede debate with sandbox antics..

BOTH

Funny how when either of us challenge BO the first response for a select group here is to challenge our independence as means to deflect from issue at hand..

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
11:16 am

RealTalk

November 5th, 2012
11:17 am

Here is a typical Republican talk radio listener. In order for him to feel “good” about himself he has to insult someone else. Notice the code words? “Spend more on car and air jordans.” What he means, but lacks the balls to just come out and say is that Krystal’s balls is Black. Like being Black is a shameful thing.

The hate and bigotry the right oozes from every pore is alarming………….

HEY FRED, It is Liberals that and closed mineded Bigots who claim they are so Inclusive. You are not, and it is always people like you with Your DOG Whistles. We all knew who holds the racism days. It is Fools Oboma Stickers on their cars.Sadly, This sickness holds no color.

I love all Americans and like Atlanta, Still Too Busy to Hate!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
11:17 am

“What you call a “Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi”, I call 4 Americans killed by terrorists”

did you hear the point when it whistled over your head?

DannyX

November 5th, 2012
11:17 am

“I gave an opinion and said God will be the final judge…. your side SUCKS”

Morality, I hear God and Jesus were up in heaven cheering on Shock and Awe. They also love the way Republicans worship the rich and despise the poor, you guys really changed their minds on that one.

Lee

November 5th, 2012
11:18 am

All of the talking and mud slinging is for not now. I really do not believe there are too many “undecided” voters left.

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:18 am

In New York you register by party affiliation and there is a Conservative Party.

There is a Liberal Party as well–Rudy Giuliani snagged a spot on their ballot back in 1989 (he also ran as a Republican.)

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:20 am

They Both Suck

First, you can’t handle the truth. Google, Benghazi and read whatever comes up, there is not much out there that explains or clears the regime; there are multiple questions and lots of emails and cables, all reflecting poorly on this regime, but no answers are forthcoming to refute the evidence available or the allegations. We are past the suspicion that something doesn’t add up and are onto who is going to take the fall. Hopefully after the election, a John Dean whistle blower will step forward with the truth, although you willfully blind sycophants will be shouting him down as he/she tries to speak.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:21 am

PETE,

No different hysteria from both sides…amendment to outlaw abortion, get more God into politics, granny off the cliff, Romney criminal, outsourcer, murderer….OMG…why should we all go on living?

We are all gonna perish…may be time to build that shelter stocked with can goods and sterno..

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

USinUK: I’m listening to your now but look what I found when I posted the last one. I never knew “she” did this song. “She” is definitely one of my all time favorites as well.

(Eva is killing that song. Probably the best version of it I’ve heard. I think like it better than the original, sorry Mr. Withers…… ok, I’ll say I like them equally. They should have done a duet.)

Steve-USA

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

Lee – “All of the talking and mud slinging is for not now. I really do not believe there are too many “undecided” voters left.”

I bet a high percentage of people who post here have already cast their actual vote.

Only one day to go (hopefully.we don’t have to wait on lawyers and lawsuits) so everyone might as well calm done and see what happens.

larry

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

I just read where Romney has sought out Glenn Beck to campaign for him.And Beck is campaigning for him. Boy, talk about despirate.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

Willie – YES I have already voted for Romney! Why? Obama has failed on the economy. It is that simple. $6,000,000,000,000 down the drain – mostly to Lib causes, kickbacks and payoffs to supporters won’t get my vote. $1,000,000,000,000 pledged by Obama for the “Muslim Brotherhood” who has as their ultimate goal to wipe out Israel and the U.S. won’t get my vote. Ignoring pleas for assistance by our Ambassadors and getting them killed won’t get my vote. This election is not about the Race Card, the Gender Card, the Age Card, the Victim Card, etc, etc etc like the SOCIALIST left wants it to be. It’s about the ECONOMY and Obama’s four year failure and tragic wasteful increase of the Fed debt. We can’t afford 4 more years of Obama. Time is short and the fiscal cliff is near. If Romney fails I will vote him out too. This isn’t about being loyal to a party – Dem or Repub. It’s about being loyal to what’s best for the health of the U.S. economy and our economic survival.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

MORAITY

Can you give us visual as to exactly what your god looks like?

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
11:23 am

curious

November 5th, 2012
11:23 am

Where’s USMC with his “Obama lied, people died”?

It looks more like FNC lied or, at best, parroted individuals that have an agenda; Destroy Obama, even if they have to destroy the USA in the process.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:23 am

I hear God and Jesus were…

Why is it always just god and jesus and no mention of the holy ghost?

Is there a bias against the heavenly haint?

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
11:23 am

Hopefully after the election, a John Dean whistle blower will step forward with the truth, although you willfully blind sycophants will be shouting him down as he/she tries to speak.

No, we will listen and weigh what they say. Then we come to a conclusion.

Then we will go back to mocking your kind for letting Fox News lead you around by your noses.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

STEVE

It’s about now that I wish I’d invested in liquor wholesaling…damn another missed opportunity to retire young..

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

Mark in Midtown
11:13 well said!

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

As to the alleged enthusiasm gap wherein the metric applied is the number of bumper stickers and yard signs?

I have observed that in my neck of the northern-ATL-burbs, generally, the GOP faithful were a bit slower to don the usual proclamations. in 2008, it seemed that these things sprouted up out of nowhere immediately after the national convention, i.e., right after Labor Day.

In 2012, I’ve seen a similar number of proclamations, but they all seemed appear right after the first debate.

Which would indicate, to me, that there is a lot of bandwagoneering going on. (pretty typical really, for either side–who wants to mess up their car if they know it’s in a lost cause?)

Steve-USA

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

Typo. Down not done. Jeez I hate doing that.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Flagboy — “And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.”

You know nothing whatsoever about me, drive-by, so unless you’re going to engage me in a dialogue about myself, you’re just blowing smoke.

And last I checked, this was a non-smoking blog.
________________________________

I simply copied and pasted what you typed. I don’t see what I did wrong.

and as for knowing you. . . this is the internet. . . and it’s a blog. with anonymous names and handles. . . I’d hazard to guess not many here know much about each other. It rarely stops anyone from posting their opinion though.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
11:24 am

I hear they found a cigar and a blue dress in Benghazi……

MAC

November 5th, 2012
11:25 am

When Obama loses tomorrow, we’ll see real hysteria

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
11:25 am

mrsstsimons reminds us that it is a felony, even in this New Somalia
of a state, to make a medical diagnosis in writing without a license.

She sees a lot of amateur con Marcus Welbys today.

She is offering con counseling Wednesday, which she can do heheh

Lee

November 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Steve….I agree. I DO think it is going to be a very close election. It is all going to come down to Florida. I think Romney has Ohio.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Israel “IZ” Kamakawiwoʻole does another great, ethereal version – check it out, too, if you get a chance…

-Strawberry Man :)

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:26 am

Stevie

What is funny is that I have never said I didn’t lean left. I have stated that numerous times. As well as saying that while leaning left, I do not think either party does a good job of governing. Just because I agree more with the overall Democrat platform doesn’t mean I think they run the “show” any better than Republicans or agree with everything they do.

When they get caught up in a “blog name”, as you say, they have little to nothing to talk about.

That is Morality’s MO when he is unwilling to debate. He asked about my voting record for Presidents a few weeks ago. I listed them all out. Morality has yet to list who he has voted for except to say, he didn’t vote for Bush or Obama.

I’m on record stating that I think Obama is mediocre and I challenge anyone to show a post where I have did much praising of him.

They can show where I have ripped the right and numerous Republican politicians. In their mind that automatically equates to me agreeing with all things Democrat and all elected Democrats, I guess.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:26 am

The wiping out of Israel, both Granny and Fiscal falling over a cliff, takeover by the Muslims…oh my…what’s a middle aged white guy to do?

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
11:28 am

Can you register as a conservative here in GA?

You don’t register by party in Georgia.

Mickey

November 5th, 2012
11:29 am

What a joke ! I cannot stop laughing, you say Fox Lies? Take your head out of the hole and stop lying to yourselves, our current president is a joke!!!!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

November 5th, 2012
11:29 am

ooooooooo Fred … I loves me some Annie Lennox!!

check out Emeli Sandi – I’ve listened to this track about 5 times today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=883yQqdOaLg

OBIWAN

November 5th, 2012
11:29 am

Joe Hussein Mama;
So you believe the Obozo lies? I left the democrat party after seeing that they ARE 100% NOT FOR THE PEOPLE, they are 100% about themselves. If you all like Obozo so much move the south side of Chicago, he has done such a good job there, right? You all cry about the “Bush” wars, but more people are shot and killed in the south side of Chicago than in both wars, yeah your correct he has done such a good job…right?

George Watson

November 5th, 2012
11:29 am

If they can make it against the law to cry ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater when there isn’t one, they can make it against the law to report bogus news in an attempt to throw an election. This is voter fraud the most heinous kind. Where’s a good Attorney General when you need one.

Ronald Reagan

November 5th, 2012
11:30 am

People died & Barry H. lied!

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Rafe

Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it true.

Refute what the article says and we all get a chuckle.

I nor you know the exact truth. You think you do because what you have heard meets your narrative, however that doesn’t make it so, no matter how bad you want to believe it.

You can click you heels together 1000 times, but no matter how bad you want to be in Kansas, unless you start walking, get in car or on a plane……. you wont be in Kansas.

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Which would indicate, to me, that there is a lot of bandwagoneering going on.

stands,

I don’t disagree with that, but isn’t bandwagoneering more useful the closer it happens to coincide with election day?

alex

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

@kamchak, that was SO helpful,now go read the endorsement , learn something NEW and report back… Sheesh

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

BOTHSUCK

I hear you…anyone who buys either parties platform hook, line and sinker is not creative or capable of independent thought…..simply regurgitating partisan ads and talking points and getting hysterial and emotionally unhinged…

independent thinker

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Someon remind me how many Americans died on 9-11 while our so-called National Security advisor sis not do her job? and how many died while our president read “My Pet Goat”? And how many Americans died in Embassy attacks while Bush was in office? And how many American died in Iraq for a totally wasted war so that Iran would have an ally instead of an enemy? And how many died in Afghanistan to keep in power a corrupt government.?

And how many died in Libya to remove a dictator who was the first major terrorist to use a passenger airplane to kill Americans?

And how many Marines died in Lebanon when our saint of a president took no action and let Hezbollah claim victory?

Ahh but that evil black Muslim in the White House purposely let four Americans die in Benghhazi because he wanted to cover up his inability to wipe out Al-Quaida and actually sympathizes with radical Muslims who have infiltrated his government.

Quite a story- who wrote it ?Hannity; M. Bachmann or Limbaugh or Rove?

Welcome to the Occupation

November 5th, 2012
11:31 am

Morality?: “This election is not about the Race Card, the Gender Card, the Age Card, the Victim Card, etc, etc etc like the SOCIALIST left wants it to be. It’s about the ECONOMY”

Huh? That would be a very strange sort of socialism that cared only about things like gender and race and nothing at all about ECONOMY.

Socialism was born in a concern over the ECONOMIC ravages of capitalism and that continues to be the life and blood of any socialism worthy of the name.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:32 am

SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:32 am

RW

Thanks for being the best advocate you can for the “registered conservative”, but it was pretty weak to say the least.

Maybe next time, buddy. Maybe next time

Aquagirl

November 5th, 2012
11:32 am

Aquagirl:

Do you believe conservative women have equal rights as progressive liberal women? If so explain it.

Yes. And I’m happy to explain my reasoning if you’ll explain why you’re flinging a random question my way. Given your history I can’t discount you’re asking because you’re an angry guy with a stick up his rear end, and I’m not here to jump for your amusement.

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:32 am

Jay,

If their were no military or CIA assets available to come to the aid of these brave diplomats and warriors, that makes me think we do need a bigger Navy as Romney said, and Barry mocked. Why with all the unrest happening in the middle east, do we not have a aircraft carrier group assigned full time to the Med. Could it be that the are all deployed in other hot spots, like the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean.

Fred ™

November 5th, 2012
11:33 am

Time to go set up for tomorrow. Ya’ll be NICE to each other lol.

GT

November 5th, 2012
11:33 am

My question is how many building will be burned down in the south when Obama wins this time. And in those burnings will we be able to filter out terrorist from the usual suspects. You will have the Waffle House gang who are harmless, but maybe some Taliban seek into that group of disgruntles and help torch the landscape with them, kind of merge the two causes. Then, like strangers robbing a bank together, one stranger pulls out his gun and starts shooting up the place killing a few folks. The Waffle House gang now tries to disengage but the Taliban is loading up the guns for a second roll of fireworks. “Who invited these guys?” “I thought you said you were related to them?” the Waffle House gang are heard saying as they leg a retreat.

Once you enter the non reality of militate it get real, real fast.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:33 am

SUCKS – I DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM – BUT YOU DO. Have you ever had an idea yourself or do you jut like whine about those that oppose Obama’s socialist agenda?

Thulsa Doom

November 5th, 2012
11:34 am

So what George Watson is really saying is that dan rather and CBS 60 minutes should have been arrested years ago.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:34 am

…now go read the endorsement , learn something NEW and report back…

You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that I somehow answer to you, sport.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:35 am

Mark in mid-town — “Whatever Fox News’ faults, they are one of the few news organizations attempting to do any real reporting on the issue, as opposed to accting like the Palace Guard for Obama.”

Next you’ll try to tell us that they’re doing real reportage now because they feel so guilty about being Bush’s “palace guard” for eight years. :roll:

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
11:35 am

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:22 am

What has Romney shown? When he left Mass. they were 47th in job creation. He’ not even going to win the state he governed. He claims ties to Michigan and that states a toss up. He’ll win Utah but that has to do with the religious ties of that community and he didn’t even get the endorsement of the states largest and most influential newspaper.

It seems to me those who know Romney best are not in his corner. Knowing him seems to cause a dislike for him.

Since most of your rant was about Obama being a socialist and and a bunch of other blabber, what is it that Romney offers that has your support?

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:35 am

Morality

You are the last person to speak about whining.

You do nothing else when you post.

Have a tissue

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 5th, 2012
11:36 am

I hear they found a cigar and a blue dress in Benghazi……

Whatever you do, DON’T smoke that cigar! I’m warning you.

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:36 am

but isn’t bandwagoneering more useful the closer it happens to coincide with election day?

hmm. I honestly don’t know.

I never thought of “bandwagoneers” as anything more than shorthand for “timid people who wait until they have decided it’s safe”, i.e., a mild insult, but I wasn’t really using it as such just now.

(further complicating things, I’ve almost exclusively used it to describe sports fans, not political junkies, so less was riding on it.)

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
11:37 am

RW: If we’re going with predictions for calling Georgia for Romney I’ll go with 7:00PM and 3 nanoseconds

I’m going with 7:00:01 due to a glitch in Fulton Co. :)

—————————-

Mick

I’m hoping we can run the table and return to Miami. I guess it could be a 20 year anniversary celebration of the Alabama vs Miami championship game which was the 1st BCS game. :)

Krystal'sBalls

November 5th, 2012
11:37 am

@RealTalk
November 5th, 2012
10:17 am

3300 sq ft HOME
401K , IRA, metals, savings…
ONE car payment, all otherS PAID FOR!
low 800 FICO

SORRY “CHARLIE”

And no I don’t drive an Escalade, although I am sure you would feel MUCH better to know that I did.

Goldie

November 5th, 2012
11:37 am

Shame on Fox Noise– its fans are ignorant and filled with misplaced hatred!

:(

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Have you ever had an idea yourself or do you jut like whine about those that oppose Obama’s socialist agenda?

Sez the drudgey spammer.

Whatsamatta?

Why haven’t you posted your usual screed about Samuel L. Jackson

The Truth

November 5th, 2012
11:38 am

Since January 2009, a net of 194,000 new jobs have been created. During that same time, 14.7 million have been added to the food stamp rolls.

Simply put, BO’s policies have not produced jobs. During his time in office, 14.7 million people were added to the food stamp rolls. Over that same time, only 194,000 jobs were created—thus 76 people went on food stamps for every one that found a job.

…. thought you might be interested ….

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:39 am

Flagboy — “I simply copied and pasted what you typed. I don’t see what I did wrong.”

“I’m not a bit surprised.”

“and as for knowing you. . . this is the internet. . . and it’s a blog. with anonymous names and handles. . . I’d hazard to guess not many here know much about each other. It rarely stops anyone from posting their opinion though.”

Most of the regulars here *do* know each other, at least by reputation.

You, not so much.

Thereby making your opinion of me worthless.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:39 am

They can call GA now.

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Bush’s “palace guard” for eight years.

Of course back in the day, we DFHs used to refer to them as the “Press Corpse.”

Thulsa Doom

November 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Brocephus,

Not that it matters but the first Bcs title game was UT and fsu in 98.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Jay – you are like a magnet for the obsessive, militant, Marxist far out left. Nut cases and bi polar abounds here for our entertainment. Whining, crying and gnashing of teeth when the subject of “God” comes up! Gasp! Heaven forbid!

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:40 am

ooh, can I call OK and UT for Romney? I always wanted to do that.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
11:41 am

Since January 2009, a net of 194,000 new jobs have been created. During that same time, 14.7 million have been added to the food stamp rolls.

Week old smelly drudgey spam

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
11:41 am

The unhinged wing has shown up.

Let’s hope they just blog crazy stuff.
and that the FBI is ready for tomorrow.

We knew this would happen though, didn’t we?

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:41 am

538’s got O as a 7-1 favorite.
InTrade’s got O at 2-1.

“Smells like…victory…”

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
11:41 am

Paul Ryan to Right-Wing Activists: Obama Policies ‘Compromise Judeo-Christian Values’
alternet.org

Obma must be like Christ? Maybe he is the 2nd coming? Oh oh oh….

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:41 am

OBIWAN — “Joe Hussein Mama; So you believe the Obozo lies?”

No, I absolutely don’t believe the “Obozo lies.” The lies you people tell about the President are inexcusable.

“I left the democrat party after seeing that they ARE 100% NOT FOR THE PEOPLE, they are 100% about themselves. If you all like Obozo so much move the south side of Chicago, he has done such a good job there, right?”

I’m staying right here and too bad for you if you don’t like it.

“You all cry about the “Bush” wars, but more people are shot and killed in the south side of Chicago than in both wars, yeah your correct he has done such a good job…right?”

I love the sound of conservative heads exploding. (laughing, pointing) :D

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:43 am

the obsessive, militant, Marxist far out left.

I will present you with the same challenge I presented our MIA “USMC” over a year ago, who posted that Jay was “far out of the mainstream.”

just which particular view popular here by those who are to the left of you, is “far out left”?

I will own up to having one rather unpopular view–I think the death penalty is stupid and should be abolished. That is about it for me.

Seriously, what is “far out left” in these comments threads, “Morality?” And where, pray tell, are the “Marxists”?

George Watson

November 5th, 2012
11:43 am

PS In what way was this lie ‘astray’? When did intentional repetition of untruths and unsubstantiated fantasy become an unfortunate error. A more interesting approach might have been some quick research on how many Americans had heard and believed this nefarious work of fiction, and suggested it had influenced their vote. That would be a scandal worth demanding answers to – not to get apologies, but heads, preferably on pikes. ;-)

Paul

November 5th, 2012
11:43 am

RW-(the original)

Could to have you back. Nice to have a person able to articulate a reasonable position from a certain political viewpoint here on the blog.

Haven’t seen that for a lonnnnnnnnnnng time.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:44 am

R. Hollister — “If their were no military or CIA assets available to come to the aid of these brave diplomats and warriors, that makes me think we do need a bigger Navy as Romney said, and Barry mocked. Why with all the unrest happening in the middle east, do we not have a aircraft carrier group assigned full time to the Med.”

Ever hear of NATO? :roll:

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
11:44 am

I’m going with 7:00:01 due to a glitch in Fulton Co

Brosephus,

You’ll be closer to right on all the non-Fox channels since they’ll call the Obama states, if there are any :-) , first

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:44 am

stands

I think it is safe to call Idaho, Nebraska, Wyoming, both Dakatos and South Carolina as well.

William J. Clinton

November 5th, 2012
11:44 am

I did not have sexual relations with that woman!

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
11:44 am

Just think, 36 hours from now the mittens will be off our TV’s until 2015!

getalife

November 5th, 2012
11:45 am

Our President remains undefeated.

Great news for our country.

Depression sets in for the cons.

stands for decibels

November 5th, 2012
11:46 am

I think it is safe to call Idaho, Nebraska, Wyoming, both Dakatos and South Carolina as well.

You forgot Poland! Kansas!

…but seriously, I am just interested in *who* gets to bravely call those states. I think we should be generous and allow different regulars here make the call.

Bradley

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

“Obama killed my son. Words spoken by the father of one of the Seals that died.”
Thats a pretty disgusting comment and I feel ashamed that you would ever use that as an attack. By that logic any time Bush sent a troop overseas he was personally responsible for killing him. Please, people, think before you talk. And before people jump down my throat, its absolutley horrible that anyone had to die, but to blame it on a president? The big picture needs to be looked at, and the fact that somehow the president, single handed has brought everything down is outlandish.

RW-(the original)

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

Paul,

I’m just breifly loitering here, but it’s good to “see” a few old friends still around. What’s the latest Cowboys news after last night?

Thulsa Doom

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

The kook echo chamber is particularly loud today. At least 90 decibels.

ATLien

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

@independent thinker 11:31 Spot on. But, I suspect we won’t hear anything from the conservative posters in this forum regarding that. Or if they do post the comment will center around “we’re not talking about the past we’re talking about now” The blind hypocrisy of these people is galling and offensive.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

You mean Samuel L. Jackson’s interview with Ebony? Why haven’t I brought up today? Because you already know what he said and I know that SLJ lied about why he vote for Obama. He voted for Obama because he is a left of center, socialist democrat……. and that’s the real reason he voted for him. We both know that he wouldn’t vote for Herman Caine ” ’cause he’s black.”

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:47 am

“Morality” — “Whining, crying and gnashing of teeth when the subject of “God” comes up! Gasp! Heaven forbid!”

The only whining, crying and gnashing of teeth I see in here when god is mentioned is that coming from the conservatives who get all butthurt that the atheist posters don’t bang down on their knees and start singing hosannas.

Some people don’t believe in your god. Get over it.

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:48 am

They Both Suck

My point exactly, no matter how loud one yells, a deaf man never hears you. The willfully deaf are even more of a challenge, sign language doesn’t work well either, as usually, they are willfully blind as well.

If anyone reads what is known about Benghazi and absorbs that their is a lack of information coming out of the WH, an honest thinking person realizes they are either stalling or hiding something. If they are just stalling, then why?

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:48 am

SUCKS – to handle your whining we need to get out the sponge mop….. I prefer a Swiffer for Liberal tears myself.

Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.

November 5th, 2012
11:48 am

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
11:48 am

It’s not over till it’s over.
Yogi Berra

JohnnyReb

November 5th, 2012
11:49 am

Jay, what a partisan hack you verge on becoming. Just because you don’t agree, or wish it was not so, does not mean it not true.

There are several US Senators and Representatives that believe there is more to be learned of the incident.

Typically, FOX is the only big boy carrying the water. The rest are complicit in Obama’s coverup.

Anyone who defends Obama sending out the dogs to try and persuade people the attack was from the video has no concern of their credibility.

This thing is far from being over.

JackThrock

November 5th, 2012
11:50 am

Jay – We don’t know what the facts are on Benghazi as they are still coming out. And you’re right, there are conflicting reports from DOD, CIA, NSC and ground reports from Benghazi itself. Within hours of the Bin Laden attack, however, the president reported to the American people exactly what he ordered, what was done, and how it was done. We don’t have that here, which makes the optics for the admin bad. If the optics were good for the president, there’s no way the president would not be out front on this, not least because of the political benefits. But he’s not. He has vacillated significantly. He has equivocated. Why not just hold a press conference with president, VP, SoS, DefSec, NSA, Joint Chiefs head, and CIA director? Lay it out there. Explain to the American people what was done, when, by whom. It has been nearly 2 months. The reason I and many others think he has not is because the optics are bad for him, because there was a breakdown somewhere, and because we failed to protect our men on a battlefield. Perhaps, I am wrong. But until and unless the president and his chief advisers lay out the events, others will fill a vacuum, even if incorrectly.

Ben

November 5th, 2012
11:50 am

The controversy at its base is still there, you just continue to ignore it.

Why was Obama lying and blaming this on a video (and thus a US citizen) for two weeks after he knew it wasn’t true?

Yes, I know, lies are only bad when a Repuiblican said it, lies are fine when Obama says them because he never does anything wrong, so obviously he had a good reason to lie to us for weeks. So what was this reason?

Nice strawman argument, Jay. Hardly anyone is talking about that stuff, they are talking about how Obama lied and blamed a video. Why don’t you respond to the actual controversy instead of this junk no one is talking about?

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:50 am

“The kook echo chamber is particularly loud today. At least 90 decibels’

And, Thulsa, EVERYONE on the blog agrees!

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
11:51 am

Just realized. Life without Mitt will be a great relief and improvement. Only a couple of more days and he will fade into memory. I feel better already.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
11:51 am

mitt will be gone and the one that wears the pants in the family said no more campaigns with the unhinged cons yelling at her.

They will be fine and the cons have plenty of other wealthy Americans they can slobber on.

Life is good.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:51 am

He is not my God. He is everyone’s God. You have the free will to reject him if you wish. God still loves you.

JohnnyReb

November 5th, 2012
11:52 am

I see many of the Lefties are practing their statements for the Obama defeat – it’s all because of the racists.

No, it’s because he is not an acceptable POTUS and the majority reject his policies.

But, I get ahead.

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
11:53 am

Ben

November 5th, 2012
11:50 am

_____

It’s a non issue. Give it up. Nothing happened that can be blamed on Obama and Obama did nothing wrong.

independent thinker

November 5th, 2012
11:53 am

And again how many Americans died in the only war Obama started- Libya compared to Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan??
Hey folks when you put our folks in harms way -sh-t happens.
My son has a classmates who was one three siblings who were foster children adopted by a couple who were assigned to Kenya by the CDC. the mother was killed in the Kenya embassy bombing. I do not remember everyone blaming Clinton for her death and others.
Cons just desperate to claim Al-Quaida not wiped out by Obama; Ever hear of the Salafis and Wahabis??? Why were they not wiped out by your boy Bush in the war on terror?
Why did your patron saint turn tail and run when 249 Marines were killed by Hezbollah?

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:54 am

Rafe

I have not exonerated nor condemned anyone relating to the Libya incident.

Seems you have or are leaning that way.

Some already have the entire administration charged, convicted and executed while others claim the opposite.

____________________

Morality

I picked up the tab and have a wet vac heading your way to clean up your constant crying. You must have your duck shoes on to keep your feet dry.

Also sending some Gouda and Pepper Jack to go with that whine of yours.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:54 am

Our ambassador asked for help – he got none. However, “The Muslim Brotherhood” has been pledged $1000,000,000 of our tax dollars by Obama – shows where his allegiance lies.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:55 am

“Morality” — “He is not my God. He is everyone’s God.”

No. You are quite simply wrong.

“You have the free will to reject him if you wish. God still loves you.”

I don’t care to get into a discussion with you today about your nonexistent deity.

Go pray and participate in your religious services and rituals to your heart’s content, but don’t bother pretending that people who don’t adhere to your religion are going to play by your rules.

Regnad Kcin

November 5th, 2012
11:56 am

It seems the only defense for Fox on this blog is the “The outlier is always true” theory…

Obama is over

November 5th, 2012
11:56 am

Who cares what FOX news says? The American public watched Obama speak before the U.N.and blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video. Then Susan Rice spoke on the Sunday talk shows continuing the spin. These speeches were unfiltered by MSNBC, Fox, and any other service. Obama then denied it all in Debate #2 before the eyes of the American public. This was particularly damaging to Obama because it removed the only success of his administration-”I killed Bin Laden”. Killing bin Laden is not a foreign policy. The entire Benghazi episode highlights what has become the hallmark of the Obama presidency- lack of accountability and responsibility. It’s Bush’s fault, it’s the Tsunamis’ fault, it’s the evil 1%, it’s Congress’s fault, it’s Wall St’s fault, ad nauseum. At some point, President Obama must grow up and accept responsibility for his own actions, or more importantly, his inactions. His re-election campaign has been based on completely ignoring his time in office. We have spent four years and $5 Trillion playing the blame game. I am really tired of all the divisive rhetoric, misinformation, and partisan crap we have been inundated with for the past year or so from both parties and particularly the media. I guess that is the brave new world of 24/7 electronic media that has to fill time with endless in your face soundbites. It seems that the arts of diplomacy and negotiation are no longer essential for successful politicians. It is more important to gauge which party is “winning” at any given moment.Obama’s inabilty to create a bipartisan coalition on anything has resulted in one of the most mediocre administrations in history.

St Simons

November 5th, 2012
11:56 am

The Wednesday Rush show will be epic, one for the ages.

if the ***** *** pig shows up for work.

Now run along trolls. Your leader is ’bout to speak.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
11:57 am

SUCKS – you are such a waste.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
11:57 am

Enter your comments here
Is it really WIN at all cost. Florida cutting early voting from 14 days to 8 days.
Yes goob, it’s easier for the boss to take off to vote than it is the lowly worker.
Let’s go back to just land owning white males allowed to vote. It would be awesome. Only aristocrats would be military officers and we only target soldiers not officers in battle.
The good ole days.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:58 am

O is O — “I am really tired of all the divisive rhetoric, misinformation, and partisan crap we have been inundated with for the past year or so”

Coming from a poster named “Obama is Over,” this comment is MOST risible and humorous. (giggling) :D

You don’t often see a poster turn into a troll mid-post.

Thulsa Doom

November 5th, 2012
11:58 am

So why are the kooks so loud today? Is it desperation because of a possible mitt victory and an imminent reduction of their beloved welfare state? Or is it glee over an impending Obama win and the expectation of 20 trillion in debt, even more folks on food stamps, and mediocre economic growth for another 4 years?

Rafe Hollister

November 5th, 2012
11:58 am

For those who want to read a differing opinion on the CIA timeline (not from Fox)

http://dewgeneral.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/cia-account-of-benghazi-simply-not-true-libya-scandal-being-suppressed/

British sources on the ground in Benghazi said they are extremely frustrated by the attack and are still wondering why they weren’t called for help. “We have more people on the ground here than the Americans and I just don’t know why we didn’t get the call?” one said.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
11:58 am

Morality

Would your God be proud of you and the negative comments you throw at those who do not agree with your views?

Paul

November 5th, 2012
11:58 am

RW-(the oiginal)

same as ever – Jerry micromanages and takes no responsibility, we can expect a new head coach and another season goes down in flames.

getalife

Condolences. Lou Holtz had it right – LSU was the better team but Alabama won the game.

nobodyyouknow

November 5th, 2012
11:59 am

I am sick and tired of hearing about the Bengazzi attack. I am NOT taking it lightly that Americans were killed. The truth will come out eventually. Its a wonder the American people know anything about events like this. The news media on BOTH SIDES are so biased. Yes FOX news is conservative and yes NBC and MSNBC are liberal. My concern is the media on both sides should report the damn news on the FACTS. O’bama has been attacked every since he’s been in office, as BUSH was when he was in office. I know Jay you hate to hear “if Bush were in office” bla, bla bla. But its true. His name is mentioned by the O,bama crowd. “Look what I enherited”. all the time. I get so frustrated reading your columns and others because you NEVER critize O’bama’s crowd when we all know he makes bad decisions. Please don’t come back with “name them”. You are far more informed than I and you know the history of this administation the past 4 years. I just don’t understand why you and your peers are not more concerned about the future of this country than party affiliation? I vote for who I think will do the best for this country. Sometimes its a Democrat, sometimes a Republican. The political parties always do the same thing, get some person with a great appearance, personality, attractive family, likable, good speaker, (no matter experience) and stick them in front of the media and they do the rest. If you and your buddies would just look at everything on both candidates and leave party out of it the country would better off.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
11:59 am

The last four years gave us our economy and auto industry back, occupations ended, no scandals and no attacks on the homeland.

This President did a great job and the cons know it.

The Obama’s are role models are there are none from the right.

He is calling for unity to govern for his second term to solve problems.

Will the right cooperate?

Hell no..

willie lynch

November 5th, 2012
11:59 am

JackThrock

November 5th, 2012
11:50 am

It would seem to make sense that having all the information on a surprise attack against you (Bengazi) would be a lot harder than disseminating information on an attack you planned. It’s really difficult for me to understand where you people keep coming up with this time frame.

RB from Gwinnett

November 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Sorry, Jay, but no 2-bit blog writer is going to convince the people who actually care what happened in Libya to stop asking questions. From Foxnews.com this morning..

“”1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they’ve hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel who are on loan to the agency. They don’t leave Benghazi airport until 4:30. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport, obtaining vehicles, and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they correctly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the Al Qaeda-linked Ansar al-Shariah militia that mounted the consulate attack.”

So the U.S. Ambassador to Libya is at the Benghazi hospital and suspected dead. The CIA contractors know that, but they can’t get there because the hospital is surrounded by the Al Qaeda-linked group Ansar al Shariah, the “militia that mounted the consulate attack.”

This goes up the chain communication at 1:15 a.m. on Sept. 12. The White House, the Situation Room, and all of those paying attention to intel channels know that the guys on the ground have determined the group that’s behind this. It’s the Al Qaeda-linked militia that are still fighting and have the hospital surrounded.”

So, Jay, when you’re done with all the other BS “divert, dodge, and deny” stories, how about you tell us where in this picture the BS story about the youtube video comes into play. You know, Jay, the video they were blaming this crap on for 2 full weeks after the attack.

You’re a hopeless stooge, Jay. Atlanta deserves better.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:01 pm

Christianity is not a religion and I have already explained. But, not being a Christian, you would not understand. I don’t hate you because you are not a Christian…… have good day.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

History will judge this Presidency as one of the most successful in history. Think like it’s 2012 not 1861. Just think. What really drives you. Forget what your neighbors. YOU, just think.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
12:02 pm

Media’s coverage of 2012 race was a war on truth and no matter who wins, the American public loses

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:04 pm

getalife – would the left cooperate? Same answer and Hairy Weed said as much last week. Neither side is willing to cooperate. TERM LIMITS for Congress.

No

November 5th, 2012
12:05 pm

Don’t you realize that calling out “white racists” makes you the racist in the room?

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

Media’s coverage of 2012 race was a war on truth and no matter who wins, the American public loses

And so the capitulation begins….

getalife

November 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

Paul,

Holtz is having a good year picking winners.

Alabama did not play their best football but still managed to win.

Championship teams get it done.

DownInAlbany

November 5th, 2012
12:06 pm

500 Admirals and Generals Endorse Gov. Romney Today

I would guess because they know they cannot trust the current administration. Go ahead, jump on me, won’t change my mind.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:07 pm

History will judge Obama and the far left as an economic failure that takes us over edge of the fiscal cliff in his 2nd term – if reelected.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:07 pm

TERM LIMITS for Congress.

We already have TERM LIMITS, they’re called ELECTIONS.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

Obama’s Dems are paying out millions to install bird houses in forests that are already abundant with natural bird habitat while Bhengazi burns.

Wasting time here no doubt

November 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

Where will all the little propagandists go when their self-respect and credibility disappear forever in the crush of the truth? What happens to your infantile prating when your little rag is gone forever? Speak up, Jay. I can’t hear you . . . and nobody else appears to be listening . . .

getalife

November 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

no morals,

Yeah, mitt thought he could end ObamaCare and Medicare and the left would cooperate.

mitt is not real and will be gone.

curious

November 5th, 2012
12:08 pm

Hope all those big time contributors to the various candidates get a good return on their investment.

Unless they want nothing but a better life for all Americans.

They BOTH suck

November 5th, 2012
12:09 pm

getalife

Have to give Bama credit on that last drive, but Myles coached you guys out of the game.

The 4th and 2 run instead of a FG attempt then an FG attempt instead of a punt in efforts to pin Bama inside the 10.

Mett looked good. Receivers dropped some key passes.

LSU is probably the best 2 loss team and better than many 1 loss teams.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:10 pm

What happens to your infantile prating when your little rag is gone forever?

Isn’t it deliciously ironic that an infantile prater whines about infantile prating?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:11 pm

RB — “Sorry, Jay, but no 2-bit blog writer is going to convince the people who actually care what happened in Libya to stop asking questions”

Fight The Power, RB! (laughing, pointing) :D

curious

November 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

DownInAlbany
November 5th, 2012
12:06 pm
500 Admirals and Generals Endorse Gov. Romney Today
“I would guess because they know they cannot trust the current administration. Go ahead, jump on me, won’t change my mind”

Trust Obama for what?

That he won’t keep feeding the Military-Industrial Complex?

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

Christianity is not a religion…

This made up out of thin air nonsense and insanity AGAIN?

Lordy be…

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

What do you really care about?
Did you donate to the familie memorial?
No, you’re just in the cycle trying to start a fire.
Envy vs jealousy
You really hate seeing the President do good.
We’ve never ha any President who knowingly allowed an ambassadors death.
Poisoning the water.
Not a real American. Just exploit the dead.

Beyond The Middle of the Road

November 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

All I’d like to say is regardless of your political leanings please vote tomorrow if you already haven’t.

DownInAlbany

November 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

Finally, there had been no “lasering” of the mortar position used to attack the CIA annex in the second phase of the assault. (That second phase occurred more than seven hours after the attack on the consulate had ended). There was no reason to use a laser in that fashion — the SEALs knew they had no air cover to intervene — and more importantly, no opportunity to do so.

Sources who have debriefed the team that was at the CIA annex the night of the attack in Benghazi say that the CIA operators from the Global Response Staff, or GRS, were equipped with Mark 48 machine guns and had two types of laser capability. Each weapon had both a “passive” as well as a “visible” laser that could be used against the Libyan attackers.

The presence of laser capability on the roof of the CIA annex confirms what Fox News sources that night in Benghazi originally said, which is that they had laser capability and for 5 hours and 15 minutes were wondering where the usual overhead air support was, especially since, according to this source, they radioed from the annex beginning as early as midnight asking for it.

The presence of lasers raises more questions about why air support was not sent to Benghazi even protectively once it became clear that the fighting had followed the CIA rescue team back to the annex.

U.S. military officials say they “thought the fighting was over” after the team left the consulate and that there was a lull in the fighting.

Whose source is reliable?

larry

November 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

I have seen several on here blaming Obama and his policies or his stances calling him all sorts of things from dumb to weak, saying these people are dead because of him. Well pointing out a little history here on Embassy attacks.

Under President Eisenhower in 1958 the Ankara Turkey Embassy was attacked.

3 under Embassies were attacked under President Nixon (Phonm Penh, Manila and Nicosia) with a total of 3 killed.

The 1983 Beruit Embassy attack was under President Reagan’s watch which killed 63 employees and contractors total 17 being Americans. There were also 6 more Embassy attacks during his Presidency with a total of 31 more killed.

Under George HW Bush there was an RPG attack on the Bogata Embassy.

Under George W Bush there were 11 attacks on US Embassies with a total of 60 killed.

If this one is Obama’s fault because he is a “bad leader” wouldn’t you have to say all the others above were bad leaders too? Embassies were attacked under their watch and in many cases more people were lost. If not how do you justify saying Obama is responsible for this while the others weren’t when the same things happened while they were President?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:13 pm

“Morality” — “Christianity is not a religion and I have already explained.”

It most certainly *is* a religion, your wish to the contrary notwithstanding.

“But, not being a Christian, you would not understand.”

Given that you’re not an atheist, what makes you think you understand *my* position? :roll:

“I don’t hate you because you are not a Christian…”

I didn’t say a single word about hate, but I find it very illuminating indeed that you felt you needed to say that.

” have good day.”

And you as well.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

KEEP saying it but Elections are not TERM LIMITS. There is no limit to the number of consecutive terms a member of Congress can run for reelection. If you want bipartisanship we need TERM LIMITS. Congress is broken – politicians in both parties are more loyal to their party than they are to the U.S.A. Priority #1 is to get reelected. without regard for what is best for the recovery of our economy and our survival as a nation.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
11:39 am
Flagboy — “I simply copied and pasted what you typed. I don’t see what I did wrong.”

“I’m not a bit surprised.”

“and as for knowing you. . . this is the internet. . . and it’s a blog. with anonymous names and handles. . . I’d hazard to guess not many here know much about each other. It rarely stops anyone from posting their opinion though.”

Most of the regulars here *do* know each other, at least by reputation.

You, not so much.

Thereby making your opinion of me worthless.
___________________________

I don’t know where you quoted “I’m not a bit surprised from”. .anyway.

Despite what you think, I honestly don’t have an opinion about you. my point is both sides in this take any piece of information that suits them and uses that as the basis of their belief. Most of us no longer use information to inform us; we use it instead to verify our own beliefs ideas. For one side to say the other is blind to the truth while the other side has all truth on their side. . .well. . . . it’s a pretty narrow-minded way of looking at things.

From Time Magazine:

“The bias extends to how people digest news. In a 2007 study published in the Quarterly Journal of Political Science, participants were asked to rate the bias contained in a single news report that was alternately identified as originating from Fox News, CNN and a fictional television station. Simply changing the brand attached to the report changed people’s views of the information. People made assumptions about the veracity of the news independent of what the news actually reported. “As a result, individuals sometimes create bias even when none exists,” concluded authors Matthew Baum of Harvard and Phil Gussin of UCLA. The effect was stronger among those who knew more about politics.”

So, that’s my point. feel free to respond or whatever. If it’s something about how my opinion is “worthless” because of my notoriety on the AJC blogs. . so be it.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/10/03/blue-truth-red-truth/#ixzz2BMm3AENf

getalife

November 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

Both,

I agree on your analysis and LSU dropped passes all year long. We had less penalties against Alabama.

Les is taking some heat down here on those calls because the kids were playing so well, he did not need any tricks. He was not conservative on making calls like he usually is.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:15 pm

DIA — “500 Admirals and Generals Endorse Gov. Romney Today”

“I would guess because they know they cannot trust the current administration. Go ahead, jump on me, won’t change my mind.”

How many of those 500 are working for defense contractors and stand to make a LOT of money if Romney gets elected and embarks on his promised military buildup?

Follow the money, DIA. Follow the money.

Caniac1026

November 5th, 2012
12:15 pm

Obama has already lost the veteran vote in my estimation. Any of my friends in or out of the service that share their political beliefs have totally bailed on him. Warriors are quick to defend their mates (which is as it should be), so any news where soldiers were discounted or left to rot help quickly make their decisions. And the conservative media machine has been giving them an easy decision to make by utterly vilifying him from day 1.
Fox proves yet again that fear leads our country around like a dog on a leash.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:16 pm

… the people who actually care…

The key point being care about what?

And who?

That is where the biggest hypocrites in the country – the Bush voters – and their self-righteous faux concern for other Americans falls apart.

getalife

November 5th, 2012
12:17 pm

The gop will keep the house so yes we need term limits.

It is working in Louisiana.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:18 pm

If you want bipartisanship we need TERM LIMITS.

Again — reelection rates for congress critters is in the 80-90% range, so it’s a good bet that those bitching about TERM LIMITS, is not expressing any sort of poutrage against THEIR CONGRESS CRITTER, but someone else’s like Hairy Weed.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:18 pm

It’s American politics, there is no truth.
Silly rabbit.
Belief without thought is fertilizer for ignorance.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:20 pm

I felt the need to say I don’t hate you. Why? Every time I mention God here I am attacked with hateful comments from non believers. The hate comes from non believers, not real Christians, but I am not including you as a hater…… there are others on here that despise Christians. God said that we would be attacked so I expect it.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:20 pm

JOE

Follow the money…indeed..both sides equally love cash from defense, wall street and the like…

DownInAlbany

November 5th, 2012
12:20 pm

How many of those 500 are working for defense contractors and stand to make a LOT of money if Romney gets elected and embarks on his promised military buildup?

Follow the money, DIA. Follow the money.

I don’t know. How many?
Follow the money? Now, that’s a bipartisan comment if ever I’ve seen one…

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:21 pm

1026, then it is highly interesting that you fashion your name after a never-served American coward…

Hell, Herman was so gutless he lied about “being too young” to even fight for Civil Rights! And fight for this country? You gotta be ________ me…

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/lawrence-odonnell-calls-out-herman-cain-cl

Mr. Snarky

November 5th, 2012
12:22 pm

5 38 Has Obama’s chances of winning at 86%.
Not that the wingnuts wanted to know that.
I’m just trying to prepare you for what will likely be a defeat.
Sometimes its better to just rip that bandaid off.
You’re welcome.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
12:22 pm

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes “We already have TERM LIMITS, they’re called ELECTIONS.”

Yeah that does a lot of good for people like Pelosi in her district. Even the conservatives keep some in there far beyond their usefulness. But when the liberals get a bad they get a bad one forever.

indigo

November 5th, 2012
12:22 pm

Under Bush’s watch, over 3,000 people were killed in the 9/11 attack. After that, thousands more killed and crippled for life by Bush’s and Cheney’s lies about WMD’s in Iraq.

Cons offer a deafining silence on this.

Meanwhile, in an attack that is still being investigated, and is far from being clearly explained, 4 Americans die.

Cons scream BLOODY MURDER and demand Obama take full blame, even though we still don’t have any evidence he did anything wrong.

And, you cons honestly wonder why we liberals think so many of you are gullible, simple tools of your Republican political idols.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:23 pm

Morality, quit lying. You are breaking the Ninth Commandment.

But you do an excellent job with the Eleventh!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:23 pm

Flagboy — “I don’t know where you quoted “I’m not a bit surprised from”. .anyway.”

I mistakenly included quotes there. Thank you for pointing it out.

“Despite what you think, I honestly don’t have an opinion about you. my point is both sides in this take any piece of information that suits them and uses that as the basis of their belief.”

Sides, yes. Individuals, not necessarily. You appear to be blurring the distinction between the two.

“Most of us no longer use information to inform us; we use it instead to verify our own beliefs ideas. For one side to say the other is blind to the truth while the other side has all truth on their side. . .well. . . . it’s a pretty narrow-minded way of looking at things.”

That might have been true, had I been speaking about a *side.* However, as you no doubt noticed, I wasn’t. I was speaking to an *individual.* Yet here you are, offering oblique criticism of side-vs-side arguments, when that’s not what was happening.

“So, that’s my point. feel free to respond or whatever. If it’s something about how my opinion is “worthless” because of my notoriety on the AJC blogs. . so be it.”

If you’re going to make an oblique criticism of what *sides* do, that’s all well and good. Yet you applied that criticism to two *individuals,* and it is objectively possible to know whether those *individuals* consider information that runs counter to their opinions and beliefs — yet you exerted no effort to do so.

Seems to me that your criticism was simply a matter of a target of opportunity, chosen because you (probably) knew nothing about either participant and simply ascribed group goals, beliefs and opinions to both of us.

Tsk, tsk. Lazy.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:24 pm

GETALIFE

I always thought term limits were a good thing but in reality, the best way to get ALL in DC primarily working for us is to amend constitution to get all but public money out of elections…until then we can expect zero change from you guy or the other..

Not sure if we have a meaningful pool of folks who would want elected position unless the rules are changed above..

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:24 pm

Fear Old Highway 41 #1*** X X X
The great electorate motivator.
Turbotax says my household is in the top 3% of this great country, but I would rather have a 4% tax increase than life without Medicare and Medicaid in a few years.
And no big bird.
Would turbotax lie?

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
12:25 pm

500 Admirals and Generals Endorse Gov. Romney Today

_______

500 more reasons to vote for Obama.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:26 pm

TERM LIMITS – will eliminate the partisan, party loyalists, like Hairy Weed on BOTH sides – so that eliminates the argument that I would vote to keep my favorite. With TERM LIMITS he/she would be gone on both sides after a set number of terms. I like 3 four year terms for the House and two 6 year terms for the Senate. I would also do away with Congress having control over their own pay raises, perks, etc.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:27 pm

“Morality” — “I felt the need to say I don’t hate you. Why? Every time I mention God here I am attacked with hateful comments from non believers.”

No, you’re not. I’ve witnessed some of those ‘attacks,’ and I’ve also witnessed you, Recon and 0311 being asked what ‘attacks’ they were talking about. In every case, none of you responded to that question.

“The hate comes from non believers, not real Christians”

No, it doesn’t. You are quite simply wrong.

“but I am not including you as a hater…… there are others on here that despise Christians.”

I’m going to give you the same challenge that other christian regulars in here have been given.

Name the posters in here “that despise Christians.” I’d like to know who they are.

“God said that we would be attacked so I expect it.”

In your expectation of being attacked, you wrongly accuse others of attacking you who have done no such thing.

Oscar

November 5th, 2012
12:28 pm

We don’t need term limits. What we need is to outlaw gerrymandering of house distircts.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:28 pm

S. Ray — “JOE, Follow the money…indeed..both sides equally love cash from defense, wall street and the like…”

I think you’ll find a LOT of money behind those 500 flag officers mentioned a little while ago.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:29 pm

Yeah that does a lot of good for people like Pelosi in her district. Even the conservatives keep some in there far beyond their usefulness. But when the liberals get a bad they get a bad one forever.

(shrug)

As I said, reelection rates for congress is in the 80-90% range. Again — it’s a safe bet that those bitching about congressional term limits don’t have their own representative in mind when mindlessly spouting this nonsense.

If you want term limits, then be the change you seek and vote out the incumbent in the general election.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:30 pm

INDIGO

Blaming Bush for 911 and blaming BO for 9.11.12 are kinda different despite issues you may view as similar…BUSH had gutted intelligence network in ME so no quality info to move on…good for obama the network got rebuilt before he took office…..Obama apparently has incompetence from his key folks at least relative to the fumbling way the issue was covered by Dod and WH et al…

Also, it appears that DoD, CIA or other had requests for additional support but were unable to provide…possibly for plausible reasons but it does stink that this happened on 911

Can’t blame either for either….anymore than you can give them credit or blame for economy ups and downs..

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:30 pm

But exploiting dead people.
Win at all cost.
And you think a binder full of woman could have helped.
There is no accountability on the shock news shows.
Lie now, denie later, never apologize.

FromNorthernVa

November 5th, 2012
12:31 pm

A mediocre and incomplete editorial. There are multiple aspects to Libya. First, the administration’s desire to be less intrusive in the Middle East caused security to be lesser than optimal. There are published, redacted emails to that fact. Is this true or false? Second, the administration’s immediate response to the incident was not that the consulate and safehouse were disclosed – and that there had been a coordinated terrorist attack – but that the violence was a mob (there was none) stirred to frenzy by some obscure anti-Muslim video (it was obscure). Why was Rice sent to perpetrate this? Why not admit that we got caught with out pants down. It’s a huge tragedy. But the Obama MSM insisted on perpetrating a falsehood. None of you on this blog, in fact, really, know who was available and who wasn’t. We have SOF teams throughout the middle east in many location, all with credible transport. Were they all unavailable? I do know the ride from Italy to Benghazi is 2 hours and the scenery isn’t that great. The point is – we don’t know. What we do know is that these CIA disclaimers are all coming out 1 day before an election – as opposed to three weeks ago. So this is late breaking news? Doesn’t smell right to me. Third, so while this distinguished group of readers takes great joy in blasting Fox News, Fox is not the issue. The point is there’s been no credible explanation for the death of our ambassador – and with very few exceptions – the MSM has done nothing to uncover WTF happened. The WH explanations have been incomplete, inaccurate, inconsistent. You are acting like masses that are more concerned about justifying your 2008 vote and going along for the MSM ride than being inquisitive, concerned citizens. I don’t know what happened in Benghazi – but I have been around long enough to seen and smell BS when it’s laid out for me. It was a terrorist attack, 4 Americans dies and Fox News uncovered it. And the President kept his fundraising schedule in tact.

Dharma Bum

November 5th, 2012
12:31 pm

The questionable biases inherent in Fox News reporting do not excuse the fact that the Obama administration has been less than truthful and surprisingly unclear about the security concerns in Benghazi.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:32 pm

Win or lose this country and the world is on the edge of economic disaster. We can’t afford ONE more year of Obama’s “No Plan” economic plan to reduce the Fed debt. Obama has the wrong priorities. That is why I did not vote for him……. he gives us no chance of economic survival.

Caniac1026

November 5th, 2012
12:32 pm

@JAM Vet
The 1026 is from by two favorite hockey players, who will hopefully be remembered long after this mess.
Ron Francis and Erik Cole.
I have no love for Herman Cain, but I understand your confusion :)

Partisay

November 5th, 2012
12:33 pm

Morality…you speak of how history will judge. How will it judge this:

The Republican-controlled Florida Legislature last year cut the number of days available for early voting from a maximum of 14 days to eight days. “I decided to open because we are allowed to do so,” said Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher.

Bucher noted that voting in her county did not wrap up until 2:30 a.m. Sunday. Her office started accepting absentee ballots at 9 a.m.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A judge extended early voting hours in one Florida county on Sunday after the state Democratic Party sued in an effort to give people more time at the polls.

Some voters had faced waits several hours long on Saturday, the last scheduled day of early voting. The judge ruled on a lawsuit filed late Saturday in Orange County after an early voting site was shut down for several hours. The Winter Park library was evacuated when a suspicious package — a cooler — was found outside. It was later detonated by a local bomb squad.

So they cut early voting days back and we have people standing in line until the early morning hours? And we have a bomb threat that shuts down a polling place for most of the last day, and the republicans say, “too bad.”

How will histoy judge this election with all the obvious tactics the republicans have used to suppress the vote?

Rightwing Troll

November 5th, 2012
12:33 pm

Wingnuts have NEVER let actual truth and fact get in the way of good poutrage…

paulo977

November 5th, 2012
12:33 pm

Fred …. Eva ? .She does have a certain quality in her voice that soothes ….
Just to take a pause from the madness around and fly like a bird

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJFmM2gGhqY

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

TERM LIMITS – will eliminate the partisan, party loyalists, like Hairy Weed on BOTH sides – so that eliminates the argument that I would vote to keep my favorite.

We have TERM LIMITS, they’re called elections.

You just don’t have what it takes to vote against the incumbents that you love.

Again — be the change that you seek and vote against your beloved incumbents.

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Not that it matters but the first Bcs title game was UT and fsu in 98.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_NCAA_Division_I-A_football_season

The 1992 NCAA Division I-A football season was the first year of the Bowl Coalition, and ended with Alabama’s first national championship in thirteen years—their first since the departure of Bear Bryant. One of Bryant’s players, Gene Stallings, was the head coach, and he used a style similar to Bryant’s, a smashmouth running game combined with a tough defense.

The members of the Bowl Coalition were the Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl Classic, and Fiesta Bowl. Under the agreement the Sugar Bowl, Orange Bowl, and Cotton Bowl Classic hosted the Southeastern Conference, Big 8, and Southwest Conference champions, respectively, and then a pool of at large teams was formed between the Atlantic Coast Conference champ, the Big East champ, Notre Dame, and two conference runner ups from the Big 8, SWC, ACC, Big East and Pac-10. The highest ranked host team would play the highest ranked at-large team. If the two highest ranked teams were both at-large teams, the championship game would be hosted by the Fiesta Bowl.

So for this year, (host) SEC champ Alabama played (at-large) Big East Champ Miami-FL, the Orange Bowl featured (host) Big-8 champ Nebraska and (at-large) ACC champ Florida St., the Cotton Bowl Classic featured (host) SWC champ Texas A&M and (at-large) independent Notre Dame, and the Fiesta Bowl featured (at-large) Big East runner up Syracuse and (at-large) Big 8 runner up Colorado.

The Bowl Coalition is the granddaddy of the BCS. Alabama won the first title under the system by beating Miami. The BCS is the current version, but it originally began in 1992 under a different name.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Joe. .as they say. . .

“A hit dog will holler.”

sorry you took offense to your own post.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Kam, to your point, that feckless Tom Price didn’t even really have to campaign to keep his dead red seat.

So, I’ll be stuck with that loser until he dies…

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
12:37 pm

And Jesus said: I turned the 5 loaves and two fishes into significant quantities to feed 5,000 men, I deserve to make some money off my hard work..”

Rightwing Troll

November 5th, 2012
12:37 pm

I for one look forward to Weds morning. Not because I feel “my” candidate has a lock, but because I’m ready for the politicking to be behind us.

If Mittens prevails, I’m down with a president Mittens, teatards got punked in the primaries, middle of the road Mittens is what you’ll get, and that ain’t so bad.

Brosephus™

November 5th, 2012
12:37 pm

RW @ 11:44

Excellent point!!! :)

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:38 pm

Flagboy — “Joe. .as they say. . .“A hit dog will holler.”

I’ve already posted that several times here in the last couple of weeks. In fact, I’m pretty sure I posted in on this very thread earlier today.

“sorry you took offense to your own post.”

Excellent, presumptuous *and* wrong, all in the same sentence.

I took offense at *your* post, not my own. We’d both be better served if you leapt to fewer conclusions and asked more questions.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:38 pm

I read the comments against Christians and God….. expect you have too. You have a God given right to your misguided opinion. Not going to take all day to find exactly where and who said what. That would delight them for me to mention their name. Not going to give them the satisfaction. Thought you promised to ignore me anyway – was there a time limit on that?

Jefferson

November 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

Morality is way full.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

November 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

We can’t afford ONE more year of Obama’s…

Yeah, that’s why we are giving him four, not one.

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:40 pm

It was terrorist. The bad guys attack us and you attack the President. You give strength to our enemy and claim superior patriotism. Very sad. Yes it’s sad. If he is not your President today you don’t deserve to vote tomorrow.
Period.
Yes, I’m white, born raised and educated in the south. I’m married to my first wife, have three sons, and an honorable discharge from USN. I’m 51 years old and telling you that questioning authority is your civic obligation. But where were you when President Bush was in office? This is politics not patriotism.

TaxPayer

November 5th, 2012
12:42 pm

Hows does that saying go now, there are liars and damn liars. Any cons on here retracting their damn lies. I didn’t think so.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:42 pm

Party loyalty of the loyalty to the U.S.A. is treason. TERM LIMITS

will the "REAL" Mitt Romney please stand up

November 5th, 2012
12:43 pm

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:43 pm

Party loyalty over loyalty to the U.S.A. is treason. TERM LIMIYS

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:45 pm

Morality — “I read the comments against Christians and God….. expect you have too.”

No, I don’t think I have. Clearly they’ve stuck in your mind, so I wonder why it’s so hard for you to recollect them or the posters who posted them.

“You have a God given right to your misguided opinion.”

No, I have a right to my opinion. Your imaginary deity doesn’t enter into the matter.

“Not going to take all day to find exactly where and who said what.”

Yeah. I didn’t think so. It’s easy for you to make accusations, but not so easy for you to substantiate them, is it? What was that about bearing false witness?

“That would delight them for me to mention their name. Not going to give them the satisfaction.”

Actually, if you and the other christian faithful on this board could *substantiate* these attacks you speak of, Jay might do something about it. But perhaps you prefer making up these imaginary attacks so you can play at being persecuted?

“Thought you promised to ignore me anyway – was there a time limit on that?”

Oh, so you DO remember who posted what! Great! :D

Now let’s see you articulate who posted those nasty attacks about christians. Surely you can remember that, too! :)

Jay

November 5th, 2012
12:45 pm

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:45 pm

Voting for Party LOYALTY over LOYALTY to the U.S.A. and for what’s best for our economic survival is TREASON.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:46 pm

Cainaic,

If you know me at all, you know that I have the penchant for opening wide and inserting both feet! (it’s a gift!) Mea culpa.

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This is all due to you. There is not a day that goes by that I don’t tell someone about the incredible strength VoteVets.org has because of supporters like you.

We have a ton to do during the rest of the year, next year, and beyond. We’ll keep you in the loop, every step of the way.

But for now, our most urgent duty is to exercise the right that so many fought and died to protect – the right to vote.

Thanks for all of your support.

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Iraq War Veteran
Chairman, VoteVets.org

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
12:46 pm

Joe – last one. I promise.

“In your expectation of being attacked, you wrongly accuse others of attacking you who have done no such thing.”

carry on.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

JOE

Look no further than auction process for president we are witnessing…6 billion is what I’m hearing???

At $500 per month, this amount could feed a million people…or we can use it to buy 200 drones including infrastructure to support….

Ridiculous..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

November 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

Party loyalty over loyalty to the U.S.A. is treason. TERM LIMIYS[sic]

What about loyalty to a beloved incumbent?

Be that change you seek and vote against your beloved incumbent in the general elections.

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

Not going to take all day to find exactly where and who said what. That would delight them for me to mention their name. Not going to give them the satisfaction.

The very long version of, I have nothing.

Nada, zero, zip.

I saw about 15 seconds of the Creflo Dollar show on TV last night and wished for a moment that I had become a charlatan of the cloth like him. Talk about huge money!

lefty_316

November 5th, 2012
12:48 pm

Wow. I’m absolutely shocked that a “news” organization headed up by a born-again conservative Christian would tell such lies.

Just kidding. Part and parcel of being a member of the religious right is being a professional liar.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:49 pm

Flagboy — ““In your expectation of being attacked, you wrongly accuse others of attacking you who have done no such thing.”

Again with the presuming and not so much with the asking. Do you imagine yourself a telepath?

“carry on.”

Done.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:49 pm

JAY

So what’s your projection as to what amount will Obama win this thing?
Worried about voter turnout?

I think he will win…

Richmond

November 5th, 2012
12:50 pm

The nearest gunship was in Afghanistan? Isn’t Afghanistan a land-locked mountainous country?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:50 pm

S. Ray — “JOE Look no further than auction process for president we are witnessing…6 billion is what I’m hearing??? At $500 per month, this amount could feed a million people…or we can use it to buy 200 drones including infrastructure to support…. Ridiculous..”

Come now. Did you miss my point? Is this just obfuscation on your part?

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:50 pm

Don’t want Jay to do anything about it. can take care of myself……. and I believe in free speech – unlike many atheists.

Bill Campbell

November 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Jay! Ask any veteran about their Commander-in-Chief! th community organizer who would never fight for his country will be impeached!

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

Anything over your country during war is treason. Questioning authority is not. Exploiting the dead is over the line.
If you didn’t like the last 4 years……….then you shouldnt have voted for W y’all.

Partisay

November 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

“Voting for Party LOYALTY over LOYALTY to the U.S.A. and for what’s best for our economic survival is TREASON.”

“You have a God given right to your misguided opinion.”

I love it when you can use the same person’s words – 2 different posts – against them…..

Jay

November 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

Stevie Ray, I’m not what you’d call “confident” that Obama will win.

Do I think he will? Yes. But I can see circumstances in which he doesn’t.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
12:51 pm

Without going into the whole thing about Bengazi and Fox news and all of that, I do believe more will come out about Bengazi and the entire situation after the election.

Serious question: Is the guy who made the movie or whatever still in jail? if so, for what?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:52 pm

Richmond — “The nearest gunship was in Afghanistan? Isn’t Afghanistan a land-locked mountainous country?”

“Gunship” in this instance refers to an AC-130 *aircraft,* as Jay clearly indicated.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
12:52 pm

MORALITY

How exactly can you suggest one economic strategy is more likely to be successful than the next?

Trickle down effect from lower taxes or trickle down effect from our ever expanding government….at least they are also expanding in incompetence..

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
12:53 pm

Morality — “Don’t want Jay to do anything about it. can take care of myself…”

By crying about it and not actually *saying* who the attackers were and what attacks they made? Are you serious?

“…. and I believe in free speech – unlike many atheists.”

I’ll ask again — what do you think you know about atheists? And shouldn’t I take that statement as an *attack* coming from you?

barking frog

November 5th, 2012
12:53 pm

This was the Ambassador’s fault
for being there. The CIA and State
Department got lost in the fog of
war even though it was just a few
clowns with guns protesting a bad
you tube video and now CIA reports
FBI findings in an investigation in
Libya. o.k.

Jay

November 5th, 2012
12:54 pm

“Serious question: Is the guy who made the movie or whatever still in jail? if so, for what?

Yes, he is. He violated his probation on federal fraud charges by

1.) using a false name in the making of that movie (I suspect no movie exists, that the trailer was created to fool his investors into thinking he had actually made the film.

2.) using the Internet, again in violation of the terms of his probation.

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
12:55 pm

Bingo ! Christians just attacked again – nut case above calls Christians professional liars. Enjoy getting under your thin skin!

Bob

November 5th, 2012
12:55 pm

If he’s not YOUR President today, then you don’t deserve to vote tomorrow.
Period.
Don’t pretend to be American. Put your Grey uniform on and go vote.
I served for your right to be ignorant, but not un-American.

flagboy?

November 5th, 2012
12:57 pm

. . . if only using the internet could get more people in prison.

DownInAlbany

November 5th, 2012
12:59 pm

JamVet

November 5th, 2012
12:34 pm

Kam, to your point, that feckless Tom Price didn’t even really have to campaign to keep his dead red seat.

So, I’ll be stuck with that loser until he dies…

And, we are stuck with Sanford Bishop…

Billybob

November 5th, 2012
1:00 pm

jay,
the cover up and lies told by the white house, clinton and rice will come out in the end……misdirection towards fox news will not change the outcome of the investigation into why our gov’t completely lied about a video……….this conservative doesn’t allow lying libs like you to change the actual facts of rice, clinton and white house lies about the situation…….enjoy tomorrow jay, your ilk deserves it!!!!!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:00 pm

“Morality” — “Bingo ! Christians just attacked again – nut case above calls Christians professional liars.”

So when you said that “many atheists” don’t believe in free speech, would that *also* be an attack?

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:02 pm

Billybob — “……….this conservative doesn’t allow lying libs like you to change the actual facts of rice, clinton and white house lies about the situation…….”

I don’t know who you think you are, but it looks to me like you’re trying to set yourself up as some sort of authority.

Madge From Accounting

November 5th, 2012
1:03 pm

Aquagirl: I think that should go in the permanent lexicon. We need a name for all these wives, girlfriends, next-door neighbors etc. our con menz cite as proof they know teh wimmen stuff.

We can take that to sooo many levels! Hmmm how about:

Mittford Wives

Not Ready For Primetime Brayers

The Estrogenly Indentured Servants

Billybob

November 5th, 2012
1:04 pm

jay, 12:54
fraud is illegal and should be punished……why does your radical democrat party not want to institute a voter ID program to eliminate fraud in the voter rolls of this country and guarantee that every person who votes are who they say they are? what say you?

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
1:04 pm

STEVIE – I can agree that the tax code is a disaster and that incompetent spending by the Obama regime and “W” before him is a disaster. I voted for Ross Perot years ago. If Ross Perot was 20 years younger and running on a 3rd party ticket I would vote for him. He is the only candidate that was honest enough to tell us what we needed to hear about the deficit, the tax code and incompetent spending by Congress and the Prez. The fact is – if a politician was to tell you the truth you would not vote for him/her. We get what we voted for…… and that’s our fault.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
1:06 pm

JAY,

I agree..seems that if he gets turnout remotely like 2008 he wins..if not….that of course is the number nobody can accurately project…even a balance approach of 2000, 2004, and 2008 is wrought with reasonable doubt..

Either way, you are going to have some kind of overly giddy and overly pissed off folks..perhaps name calling today is drop in bucket..

Billybob

November 5th, 2012
1:07 pm

i’m the authority of the fact that the highest levels of our gov’t came out with a lie and bogus reason as to why this incident happened and our president spoke in front of the world and proclaimed the same lie two weeks after the fact and these same people have said nothing yet to clear the situation up as to why they lied about it……..authority absolutely

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
1:09 pm

Free speech allows attacks…….. the thought Police in the gub’ment call it hate crimes. So I guess we Christians just got a hate crime put on us. Where do I file with Obama and when do I get my SUPER SIZED check in the mail?

Morality?

November 5th, 2012
1:12 pm

Go ahead an argue with yourself til I return. This won’t pay enough to entertain you 24/7 (smiley face applied for).

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
1:14 pm

Your a liar, he’s a liar, everywhere liars liars liars….

My dad can beat up your dad!

The scenery may change but the song remains the same…

DownInAlbany

November 5th, 2012
1:14 pm

Axelrod Claims Obama ‘Convened the Top Military Officials that Evening’

Did he?

7:25 PM, Nov 4, 2012 • By WILLIAM KRISTOL
David Axelrod was asked this morning on Fox News Sunday about the decision not to deploy military forces to Benghazi the evening of September 11. His response: “The president convened the top military officials that evening and told them to do whatever was necessary and they took the steps that they thought, they took every step they could take.”

And the coverup contnues…

bucket

November 5th, 2012
1:15 pm

Jay is right, the hysteria and misinformation regarding Benghazi is Fox-induced. I mean SOS Clinton, Ambassador Rice, Jay Carney, and the President himself have already told everyone that that entire incident was just a misunderstanding caused by an internet video that the US had nothing to do with.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:17 pm

Billybob — “fraud is illegal and should be punished……why does your radical democrat party not want to institute a voter ID program to eliminate fraud in the voter rolls of this country and guarantee that every person who votes are who they say they are? what say you?”

We would LOVE to have such a program. The problem is that every such program the Republicans propose or try to implement SUCKS.

I have outlined (several times) a Voter ID program here on Jay’s blog that several of our conservative posters seem to like, but most people who respond say something like ‘they’d never go for it’ for some reason or another. Some posters cite cost concerns, some cite privacy issues and others are just plain distrustful of anything but paper ballots.

All that said, though, you are completely wrong when you say that Democrats don’t want to do anything about it. We just want no part of the Republican plans to do it over the last few years.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:19 pm

Billybob — “i’m the authority”

No, you’re not.

“of the fact they lied about it”

“……..authority absolutely”

Absolutely not.

STEVIE RAY

November 5th, 2012
1:20 pm

JOE,

I don’t think I’m misunderstanding your post unless you are suggesting that one party is less influenced by campaign cash and lobby influence than the other?

My point is that the list of those 500 you mentioned and any cash behind them is the rule rather than exception…

bucket

November 5th, 2012
1:21 pm

Make that, “that the” dang proof reader is at lunch!

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:23 pm

“Morality” — “Free speech allows attacks…”

So what are you saying? You’re wrong for complaining about them or wrong for *engaging* in them?

“….. the thought Police in the gub’ment call it hate crimes. So I guess we Christians just got a hate crime put on us. Where do I file with Obama and when do I get my SUPER SIZED check in the mail?”

When do I get mine from you? After all, you just attacked atheists a little while ago.

“Go ahead an argue with yourself til I return. This won’t pay enough to entertain you 24/7 (smiley face applied for).”

Your surrender and concession are noted and appreciated.

Billybob

November 5th, 2012
1:24 pm

everyone get a valid picture id….problem solved……..
and your elected democrat representatives are absolutely not for verifying voter rolls because it ‘disenfranchises minorities’ which is just another strawman argument that your ilk leaders peddle as a reason to let anyone with a pulse, regardless of nationality vote……..you my believe in this, but your elected dems do not

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:27 pm

S. Ray — “JOE, I don’t think I’m misunderstanding your post unless you are suggesting that one party is less influenced by campaign cash and lobby influence than the other?”

No. The *implication* is that 500 flag officers know better than President Obama how to protect and defend the US. But IMO, that’s not why they signed off on that message. I think they did it because most or all of them stand to make a lot of money in their roles as employees or principals of defense-sector companies or contractors; IOW, bought and paid for.

That’s not to take anything away from those flag officers’ military knowledge, experience and judgment, but IMO that’s not where their criticism is coming from. It’s coming from their wallets, I think.

“My point is that the list of those 500 you mentioned and any cash behind them is the rule rather than exception…”

I don’t deny that money talks on all sides. I’m merely pointing out that in the case of those officers, I think money’s talking louder than their rank is.

Billybob

November 5th, 2012
1:27 pm

joe,
was the attack b/c of that video?
after you answer that question, your next thought is that the white house reasoning was a lie since the attack was not b/c of any video…….authority absolutely

older1

November 5th, 2012
1:29 pm

Everybody needs to step back and take a deep breath , could be both sides are being played for a fool. I think PROVERBS chapter 10 verses 10 thru 14 might apply, that is found in the Bible. Don’t forget JEREMIAH 10:23. Have a good day.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:31 pm

Billybob — “everyone get a valid picture id….problem solved……..”

Nope. Several states have a big problem with ID forgery. Problem NOT solved.

“and your elected democrat representatives are absolutely not for verifying voter rolls because it ‘disenfranchises minorities’ which is just another strawman argument”

If y’all care so much about verifying voter rolls THEN START ON WEDNESDAY. Don’t wait to do it until six months before the election. :roll:

“that your ilk leaders peddle as a reason to let anyone with a pulse, regardless of nationality vote…”

If you’re saying a picture ID is sufficient, then YOU are part of the problem. If you’re going to allow voting only with picture IDs, then you’re saying that any illegal who can buy a good forgery should be allowed to vote — because your verification process is insufficient.

“…..you my believe in this, but your elected dems do not”

And you know that how, exactly?

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
1:32 pm

” We just want no part of the Republican plans to do it over the last few years.”

You are correct! You do not believe in compromise unless the conservatives give up their rights, morals, beliefs, and values and accept the progressive liberal/communists beliefs and values. If the voting law does not guarantee the progressive liberals victory in the elections they are against it. So entrenched in their ideology the progressive liberal/communists would allow the dead to vote, illegals to vote, and the mentally insane or incompetent.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:34 pm

Billybob — “joe, was the attack b/c of that video?”

I don’t know. And neither do you. The difference is that I’m willing to admit that I don’t know; whereas you’re claiming to be an authority despite your ignorance.

“after you answer that question, your next thought is that the white house reasoning was a lie since the attack was not b/c of any video…”

Not my thinking at all, but thanks for trying and failing to read my mind.

“….authority absolutely”

Authority not in the least. We don’t have all the facts, but you’re going to rush to judgment anyway.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 5th, 2012
1:36 pm

williebkind — “You are correct! You do not believe in compromise unless the conservatives give up their rights, morals, beliefs, and values and accept the progressive liberal/communists beliefs and values.”

Oh, horsespit. :roll:

Take a nitro pill before you have a heart attack and die.

“If the voting law does not guarantee the progressive liberals victory in the elections they are against it.”

Absolutely incorrect.

“So entrenched in their ideology the progressive liberal/communists would allow the dead to vote, illegals to vote, and the mentally insane or incompetent.”

Denied. But you can jump all over Billybob if you want. He thinks that anyone with a picture ID should be able to vote. Whereas I want to impose a *higher* standard than that so that illegal immigrants with forged drivers’ licenses *can’t* vote.

You are simply wrong.

Mickey

November 5th, 2012
1:38 pm

Jay is a member of the press that has no accountability for their daily lies and even worse the untold stories! They elected this unqualified disgrace and now with all of the evidence to prove this his arrogance is even stronger! The press is our problem and we must find a way to hold them accountable for their lies! Obama is a lie, ask his rev from way back, you know the one he never listened to for 20 years! This is ok for you guys though as your real leader Clinton ABUSED a young lady in the whitehouse and you still worship him!!!! Explain that one, he is still out their speaking for all of you!! My take on that is you all suck! Agreed ??

@eidsonb

November 5th, 2012
1:57 pm

Monroe…Sorry to spoil the party but Romeny wins easily

Don

November 5th, 2012
2:00 pm

I can buy all that. I guess. So long as we continue to talk about the fact that the administration flat-out lied to our faces for days about the attack being a instantaneous reaction to a youtube movie about mohammed.
Did we all forget about that? Or was it a bad dream.
For that, The O is toast. Vote ROMNEY 2012!

Glenn Farrar

November 5th, 2012
2:44 pm

The attack lasted 7 hours. The White house knew about the attack in less than 2 hours. Reinforcements in Italy were 1 hour away. The General in charge of all forces in North Africa requested permission to respond and was told to stand down. The Seals were told twice to stand down. The day before the attack the Ambassador sent an eamil to the adminstration saying Benghazi was a terrorist hotbed and the embassy was “impossible” to defend. An hour before the attack the terrorists were blocking off streets. There is a ton of emails, recorded phone calls, etc backing this up, but the media is quashing it. CBS interviewed Obama the next morning and he said the “attack was not like in Egypt”(ie, spontaneous, but was orgaized by “folks that dont like us”. CBS cut that remark from the interview, but it surfaced later. I have heard it. Then for the next 9 days the Obama Aministration said the protest, in response to a video no one had even heard of until the White House brought it up, escalated into an attack. Within 24 hours Intelligense sources were saying it was a planned attack. Now, 2 months later, still no timeline of who knew what and when they knew it. 2 MONTHS. Obama and the media are stalling until after the election when the true story will no longer matter as far as the election is concerned, but when it does I want all of you to write in saying, “I was wrong”.

Debra Elliott

November 5th, 2012
2:52 pm

I do not find your source for slamming Fox News all that reliable Jay…we have the chickens guarding the Hen House here. If there truly is a “cover-up” – do you seriously believe you’re going to get the real scoop from DC? Don’t flatter yourself. There have been many senators and high ranking military leaders coming forth on Fox – difficult to believe they are a bunch of liars looking to take the President down. I mean -come on-it makes no sense, election or not! I blame much, if not all, of the criticism on this administration – on the President and Hillary. They lost much of their credibility feeding the nation that bogus mob/video story over and over and over again. Anyone with half a brain questioned the hell out of that whooper…which is what we now know it to be. The actions of the President (or lack thereof) have fueled these reports by is decision to not address the nation after the attack. If these are all baseless rumors (which I doubt) – he and Hillary had the power to put those rumors to bed a long time ago- but have not. The only way any of us – You or Fox News is going to know the truth, is a via an independent investigation. Personally – I think Fox News deserves kudos for keeping this story front and center – where it still belongs!

Spokane

November 5th, 2012
2:57 pm

Facts??? We don’t need no stinking facts!

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

November 5th, 2012
3:12 pm

92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.

33 killed at American embassies under Bush.

4 killed at American embassies under Obama.

President Obama was right. He has the BEST record of defending our embassies.

lefty_316

November 5th, 2012
3:27 pm

MORALITY: I see you called me a “nut job” for simply stating the fact that Roger Ailes, the born-again social conservative president of Fox, a professional liar and morally corrupt individual.

1st of all you misconstrued my statement. I did not attack Christianity or all Christians. I simply pointed out the complete lack of intellect, common sense and rational thinking inherent to that cult of Christians that believe the Bible is word-for-word true. And, at the same time, their boundless stupidity has them thinking since they’ve experienced a spiritual rebirth (a dubious claim) they have a free ticket to paradise. Hey could I get 72 virgins to along with that too? Please. Stop the stupidity.

As for that “good Christian” Roger Ailes who runs Fox his track record speaks for itself – obstruction of justice, abandoned his first wife, divorced his second wife to marry a younger woman, etc. etc. etc. In other words a track record that mirrors that of so many of the “good Christian” social conservatives with high profiles.

Now let me ask you MORALITY – do you think it’s important to keep religious issues – gay marriage, abortion, birth control and so forth – out of the decision makers in Congress? I’m inclined to agree with the most brilliant political thinker in the history of our nation on this topic.

“What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people.” James Madison, 1785.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
3:36 pm

Now if this were all white band members Jay would be reporting this:

The halftime show featured a dance-off between someone dressed like Romney and someone dressed like President Obama. At some point, the public address announcer begins narrating a skit.

“I got somebody for you, Mr. Romney,” the announcer said. “Mr. Big Bird is in the house.”

The bird character begins dancing as the Romney character watches.

“You not going to get rid of Sesame Street, Mr. Romney,” the announcer declared.

At that point, the bird punches out Romney – and the character falls to the ground as the crowd cheers.

Several school board members said the performance crossed the line.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
3:40 pm

lefty_316 :

You are an atheist! No christain should argue with you. It is like talking to a stop sign. Now since you are so knowledgeable about the forefathers or is it just the one or two who believes like you, how many faith institutions carry their name or were founded by the forefathers of this great country. How many did profess to be christain or believe in a creator. You might want to read some more of James Madison there sport.

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
3:41 pm

Pass the Cheesy Grits Please

resource please!

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
3:45 pm

Debra Elliott

November 5th, 2012
2:52 pm
Well stated and I totally agree.

4 More!

November 5th, 2012
3:46 pm

relax–Obama will win Ohio and Pennsylvania and wrap up the electoral votes. Romney’s going down big!!! 4 more years!!!!

williebkind

November 5th, 2012
3:52 pm

The world wont end because of Obama if he does win the election. He might add to the misery of it getting here but we will eventually correct all that he does to harm this country’s path to higher morals, financially sound balance sheets, and a military that guarantees our rights and freedoms stay in place.

However if Romney wins, we will see the misery lifted and a real American as president.

Betty Jenkum

November 5th, 2012
3:58 pm

The ten day lie about a spontaneous riot cost Bam all his administrations credibility. This is not going away. The moral cowardice of not telling the truth to the American people must be investigated. This was the most blatant serious lie in the history of the country.

marcdg9

November 5th, 2012
4:19 pm

During the second debate Obama vehemently declared that he called the Benghazi attack an act of terror when he spoke from the Rose Garden on the morning of September 12th. Just a few hours ago CBS releases a previously unreleased portion of a September 12th 60 minutes interview and when directly asked if he believed if it was a terrorist attack he replied: “Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.”

“Obviously it was an attack on Americans”, the question of intent was not asked. The question again was; “was this a terrorist attack” which the president did not answer. Did the president contradict himself? Did he say one thing in the morning and something else in the afternoon? The more new information is revealed the more we see and hear conflicting information from this administration.

Xavier

November 5th, 2012
4:59 pm

Yeah, we’ll see when Congress looks into this, won’t we? Don’t kid yourselves: It’s coming.

sam

November 5th, 2012
5:19 pm

why would Fox ‘News’ apologize? They completeed their mission, they are no more than a propoganda machine. they did exactly what they’re built to do, misinform people who are asking to be misinformed. anyone who honestly believes Fox is set up as a news organization deserves to be as ignorant and misinformed as they are.

sam

November 5th, 2012
5:21 pm

and also, what does it matter if Obama went around acreaming terrorism 5 minutes after it happened? what possible difference would it have made? got forbid we get our facts straight before sending in the bombs..

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

November 5th, 2012
5:41 pm

Do not have time to take apart your argument today, Jay, although I am sure I could. Under the false assumption you are correct, Fox would only have to get about 10,000 more stories wrong to catch up with the state-controlled media, of which the ajc is a part.

marcdg9

November 5th, 2012
5:43 pm

Any chance of a cover up?

Susan

November 5th, 2012
5:58 pm

Very convenient that you, Jay are publishing this 1 day before the election.

Obama AND the mainstream media have had 2 months to clear this up with the American people. Try convincing the families who lost their loved ones in the attack of these lies and coverups. Also, how very convenient that 1) there were no gunships or special forces in the area, 2) units did not arrive until “entire sequences were complete.

Something went terribly wrong in Genghazi and I find it very hard to believe that there wasn’t anything that could’ve been done to help the Americans in Benghazi. Come on, Jay! Why are you the mouthpiece for Obama’s regime and the rest of the mainstream media? Who’s back pocket are you in?

I happen to trust FOXNEWS and have found them to be far more forthcoming, professional, and accurate in their reporting than the mainstream media. They at least do their jobs.

Barbara in the Woods

November 5th, 2012
6:23 pm

Foundation for the Defense of Democracies is still flogging the story; then again, it is run by neo-cons.

http://pjmedia.com/claudiarosett/benghazi-and-the-missing-obama-911-timeline/?singlepage=true

lefty_316

November 5th, 2012
9:15 pm

WILLIEBKIND you made an inquired about faith of our Founding Fathers. Based on the 180 to 200 books I’ve read on the history of America between 1760 and 1810 let me share my conclusions.

The historical community considers that there seven core Founding Fathers, upon whom I will focus. Note that in all instances it is not entirely clear what their beliefs were.

John Jay of New York – Jay was what we would consider today a fundamentalist Christian. He was a staunch believer in the inerrancy of the Bible. He was also noted for his deep hatred of Catholics, and as governor of New York tried to get the state legislature to pass laws that would prohibit Catholics from holding state jobs or serving in the New York Congress. He failed in that quest.

Ben Franklin – By his own description Franklin was a Deist. He once said “When I was 16 somebody gave me a book describing the evils of Deism. The more I read the more I realized it was describing my personal beliefs.”

Thomas Jefferson – He’s been called a Unitarian but was actually a Deist as well. Among other things he was well known for his hatred of fundamentalist preachers.

John Adams – In a letter to Jefferson in 1816 (see the Collective Correspondence between Jefferson & Abagail and John Adams) he described himself as a Unitarian. In another letter to Jefferson he wrote “What pain and misery these gospels have caused over the centuries!”

James Madison – Little Jemmy, as he was known, may have been a Deist but most evidence points to him being an agnostic.

Alexander Hamilton – Until 1801 Hamilton’s only interest in religion was its use as a tool used to manipulate voters. When he his son died in 1801 he found religion and was of course killed himself 3 years later in a duel with Aaron Burr. Contrary to popular belief at the Constitution Convention in 1787 Hamilton did not actually say “we are in no need of divine intervention” when Franklin suggested a prayer to open the proceedings one day. However Franklin’s motion was soundly defeated.

George Washington – Many claims as to Washington’s Christian beliefs have been made over the years. Washington famously never spoke or wrote about his beliefs. He most likely a disinterested Christian or a Deist. William White was the pastor at the church Washington attended in Philadelphia during his first term as president. GW went to church services every Sunday but never took communion and usually left early. In 1795 Pastor White said “I never saw anything that lead me to think Washington was a believer.”

These Founder all came of age during the Enlightenment, which valued logic and reason over the supernatural. And at one time or another they all, except Washington, acknowledged the tremendous influence of John Locke on their political thinking. Much more so than the Bible.

JKL2

November 5th, 2012
9:30 pm

What happens when a lie goes astray?

We end up with President obama.

Vote obama: You were dumb enough to fall for it last time!

The Truth

November 5th, 2012
10:52 pm

Bye, bye Barry. The party’s over!

old timer

November 5th, 2012
11:34 pm

Jay, I’m convinced now that you don’t care about the truth at all. Your either stupid or as big a liar as Obama. Oh yea, I meant to ask you. Who is usually on top? You or luckovich? Does he give you a reach around?

Frank

November 6th, 2012
4:24 am

Here’s a simple question to the left… Why are you voting for Obama?

Frank

November 6th, 2012
4:34 am

It is pathetic on what is happening to this great country. I hope we win tomorrow but voting Romney just isn’t the cool popular thing to do. With so many uniformed, uneducated people out there voting on a President of this once great country simply because of the color of his skin is just sad. And yet, we here on the right are the racist ones. Millions of WellCare collecting, food stamp using people voted in 2008 and will probably do it again this year. It’s sad that people who can’t even spell politics are voting to “make history” or because “Romney sucks.” Please tell me what has Obama actually changed for the better? What has he done to help this nation? What good is moving forward if you are traveling in the wrong direction?

Daniel

November 6th, 2012
2:34 pm

Where did this information come from? Did Bookman cite any sources? I have tried to find more information…..

Vladimir

November 6th, 2012
2:37 pm

Da! You tell them Comrade Bookman! We will have Stars and Stripes stripped from American flag and have sickle and hammer in its place.
Our father, Karl Marx would be proud of you for spreading Socialist propaganda! You should get the Star of Lenin for superb brainwashing you have done to imbeciles in Georgia!
Long live Socialism! You are much closer to Communism! You come to Russia. We have borscht…

-Vladimir Putin

Bozo Bookman

November 6th, 2012
5:08 pm

Look at me – I like to distort what Fox News reports into my own twisted version of what was reported because I work for a liberal newspaper and can get away with it. My liberal readers have no idea what was reported because they don’t listen to or watch Fox News! How fascinating!

jim

November 7th, 2012
2:29 pm

Looking for some photo opps for New York and New Jersey oh!! don’t need that now.Chris Stevens last call isn’t BS but now it’s a mute point, wait you will see,

CB

November 7th, 2012
2:53 pm

Where’s your information that its a lie? Facts are facts pal. And your reporting lacks anything close to resembling a fact.

Craig Smith

November 8th, 2012
11:08 am

Mr. Bookman, your sad attempt to discredit Fox News was second rate at best. First of all, I work in Washington, D.C. as a Legislative Aid for a Committee on the Hill and I can verify that what Fox reported was true. The State Dept did deny all requests made to them for a security detail. I don’t know how someone like is able to keep a stable job because you are wrong. Your liberal media bias is alive and well encompassed with you pathetic agenda. Obama should be impeached, this is worse than Watergate.

ebecca79

November 8th, 2012
3:47 pm

So are you calling the dead Nave SEALs father a liar??? Are you calling those that were talking under oath liars???

Look I agree Fox News sensationalized the story; however, the American people need answers as to what happened. When answers are not given or stories are not straight then the American people begin to smell something fishy.

Mona

November 8th, 2012
5:28 pm

this investigation has just begun It will soon be known who lied and who covered up.

Tim

November 10th, 2012
9:27 am

This propaganda won’t fly, and this administrations failure will become painfully clear.

It doesn’t make sense that we had gun ships in the area, and refused to use them, but how can we possibly believe this administration?

The bottom line is that Americans, good Americans, were raped and murdered, and to think that we refused help is almost too difficult to comprehend.

We may eventually get the answers to what really happened, but the administration has so much work to do to get our economy back on track, that when the investigation starts to get answers, the administration will scream that it’s nothing more than a witch hunt.

The truth is what the American public deserves, non partisan inquiries into what really happened, and good people shouldn’t fall, to protect anyone.

Margaret McIntrye

November 10th, 2012
10:04 pm

Jay, what are you supposed to be? What is the value of your blog if you are so uniformed or just a liar. We now know from emails and real time –recorded information from the CIA, Dept of Defense, that all of the FOX News was true. Further, General Patraeus has now resigned the week before hearings are to begin. Do you also want to pre-empt the hearings and say Patraus is also a liar. You’re a fool. Thank God for FOX News…. they do have the largest audience…..

iratior

November 11th, 2012
8:52 pm

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iratior

November 11th, 2012
9:03 pm

Where are all the comments made on dates after November 5th? Didn’t anybody get to needle the rightwingers about losing the election? They were SO arrogantly sure their man was going to win, but he LOST! LOST LOST LOST! Now all they’re left with is this nonsense that Obama “murdered” someone by not conducting military operations right. Of coulrse, well over 2700 people died because of a terrorist attack in 2001, but that’s OK because a Republican conservative was in power then. Such a stinking double standard.

Dan

November 12th, 2012
7:15 am

Talk about propaganda, this site is full of propaganda. The facts are 4 people are dead and the left has no concern about that. The left will keep their heads buried in the sand. I predict that Obama will be impeached over this.

I also predict that unemployment will jump to 10% by Jan 1, 2013.