The Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi collapses
What happens when a lie goes astray?
You may recall the right wing’s hysteria last week over the way that events had supposedly played out in Benghazi, Libya. Stoked by inflammatory, deeply irresponsible misreporting on Fox News, they insisted that this scandal was bigger than Watergate, and that for his cowardice President Obama would be disgraced as commander in chief and impeached and removed from office should he win a second term.
Oh, they were in fine, fine form, braying like so many hounds certain they have finally treed the fox.
President Obama, we were told, had AC-130 gunships within an hour of Benghazi but refused to use them to try to intervene on behalf of his ambassador. We had Special Forces units ready to go just two hours away, at Sigonella Air Base in Sicily, but a cowardly Obama again barred a rescue operation, fearful that it might endanger his re-election if it went astray.
And twice — TWICE!!! — former SEALs at a nearby CIA compound had requested permission to intervene in the assault on the U.S. consulate, but twice they had been ordered to stand down and do nothing. Finally, the ex-SEALS defied orders from Washington, made their way to the consulate and rescued some of their fellow Americans. Obama, in contrast, was ready to just let them all die.
Fox News also reported that upon returning to the CIA annex, those same ex-SEALs had “lasered” a mortar targeting their position in hopes that an AC-130 would arrive to take it out, but again no help came. That same mortar later killed two of those ex-SEALs.
But as predicted here, none of that turned out to be true. None. From beginning to end, and in all its details, that story has proved to be false.
– There were no orders from the CIA or anyone else to stand down. According to a CIA timeline released last week, once those at the CIA annex learned that the nearby consulate was under attack, an ad hoc rescue mission was quickly put together and launched within 25 minutes.
– As Pentagon spokesman George Little described it Friday, “there was no AC-130 within a continent’s range of Benghazi” that night. The closest gunship was in Afghanistan, some 2,500 miles away. The two surveillance drones that eventually reached the scene in Benghazi also had to be reassigned from elsewhere; neither was armed.
– Contrary to the Fox report, there were no Special Forces units available for insertion into the situation. Soon after word of the attack reached Washington, a special ops team was scrambled from a training facility somewhere in Central Europe — some sources have reported Croatia — and transported to Sigonella.
In addition, a second special ops unit was immediately alerted and transported from a military base here in the United States to Sigonella, as an option should a hostage situation develop. In other words, major preparations were underway to provide a military option should the opportunity arise to use it.
But as Little put it last week, the units “did not arrive until after the entire sequence of events was complete. … They were in Sigonella many hours after the attacks.” Two platoons of specially trained Marines had also been hustled to Sigonella, but again too late for intervention.
– Finally, there had been no “lasering” of the mortar position used to attack the CIA annex in the second phase of the assault. (That second phase occurred more than seven hours after the attack on the consulate had ended). There was no reason to use a laser in that fashion — the SEALs knew they had no air cover to intervene — and more importantly, no opportunity to do so.
According to the CIA, its personnel at the annex were not even aware that the mortars existed until mortar shells began falling on their position; from beginning to end, the deadly mortar attack lasted all of 11 minutes.
In conclusion, last week’s entire controversy was spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong-headed. No facts exist to justify the overheated rhetoric and allegations directed at Obama and top officials in his administration, but no apologies will follow either. Quite the contrary, I’m sure.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
10:57 am
Regnad Kcin
November 5th, 2012
10:53 am
“Fred – 10:32 – sorry, but second after Louis Armstrong is Eva Cassidy”
Gotta toss in the Marley version…
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And Mr. Strawberry speaks up lol. I had never heard it before Backwards Nick, but it’s got possibilities………… I just like it slower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0l84IJVPVI
Thulsa Doom
November 5th, 2012
10:57 am
Just another day of racial hatred coming from the kook left as usual with comments from GM and Monroe. Soooo predictable.
GT
November 5th, 2012
10:57 am
Morality? I think God has judged you already, and sentenced your poor soul with stupidity. Hell of a thing stupidity, it effects you vision, your hearing, even your looks, yet most people who have it don’t even know it. And it is a generational curse; it quiet often is passed from generation to generation, much like the tribe of Cane. I don’t know what you did to deserve such a severe case of it but not even Oral Roberts could cure what you’re sentenced with. One thing about stupidity it is general painless to the victim, but gives pain to others who are well and have to come in contact it.
independent thinker
November 5th, 2012
10:58 am
OBAMA WINS – Stock Market predicts winner on Tuesday (absent Republican shenanigans)-
“”"”"”"”"”"”"”There is a 94% chance you’re going to read that headline on Wednesday morning.
That’s because the direction of stocks has been a solidly reliable predictor of prior presidential elections.
For Mitt Romney, this is grim news indeed.
Though I’ve discussed the market’s ability to predict elections before, here’s a quick review:
When the stock market sported gains in the two months before the election, the incumbent was re-elected 15 of 16 times. Conversely, when the stock market declined during that time, the opposition won 10 of 12 races. The combined data, which InvesTech Research compiled, shows that the stock market predicted the next president a mind-blowing 25 of 28 times (89.2%).”"”"”"”"”"”"”"”
http://www.wyattresearch.com/article/obama-wins-
And how much is the stock market up since the day Obama was inaugurated???????
Romney folks better start rigging those voting machines they control. Turn away 180,000 legitimate minority voters like they did in 2000 in Florida- Get Scalia ready to write an opinion that Mitt’s civil rights were violated by Candy Crolie; Get Fox News to announce Obama ordered the killing of those folks in Bengazhi and has a Muslim prayer mat in the White House, Bill Clinton caught in the act with a campaign aide; Ryan discovers Medicare is out of funds; Biden diagnosed with early dementia- Hurricane Sandy directed to NJ by secret military operation; Ben Laden Alive and living in Benghazi; GM and Chrysler bought out by Chinese firm; Romney releases his tax returns and paid astounding amount of taxes!
C’mon cons something might just work.
willie lynch
November 5th, 2012
10:58 am
gm
November 5th, 2012
10:56 am
Stop making sense.
gm
November 5th, 2012
10:58 am
williebkind
Did Paul Ryan not vote against the Ledbetter act? has Mitt the Liar ever come out and say he supports equal pay for women?
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
10:59 am
Willie Lynch: No problem sir. When I checked I was hoping I was wrong because I would have loved to have heard Ray Charles sing that song. Hell ANY song, he was one of my favorites.
But when I checked all the Youtube versions that said Ray, they were Louis.
williebkind
November 5th, 2012
11:01 am
“Amazing that anyone would even listen, or watch Fox.”
They should and I come to AJC. I have learned the progressive communists liberals have spent many hours educating themselves in propaganda and acquiring the ability to talk down to their own kind while keeping them as a base block for voting purposes. However I have also learned nothing is equal to them if it is not part of their agenda. Conservative women do not have equal rights as liberal women.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
GM
My point is that any and all presidents get too much undeserving credit for outcomes they have little or no control over..
Dodd Frank has nothing to do with profits…it is a failure because we lost and we still have 5 or so banks that are too big to fail….disaster of a risk to continue to take…why do you suppose Dodd Frank didn’t break them up (which would, among other things, create competition for banks to actually put meaningful money in play)?
They got money from all…particularly Goldmann…who basically dictates fiscal policy..
Jay
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
I know I’m going have to say this repeatedly over the next few days, but PLEASE: Do not stoop to name-calling and insults. It reflects poorly on you and on your political position and contributes to the nasty tone of our politics in general.
Plus, it will get you banned. And this would be a bad time to be banned.
Morality?
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
I gave an opinion and said God will be the final judge…. your side SUCKS. There is no Both Sides to you… outed you as an Obama supporting Liberal long ago. I am a fiscal conservative – did not vote for Obama or “W” as both are fiscal, big gub’ment liberals. Obama, along with the liberal congress, increased the Fed debt by $6,000,000,000,000 in just four short years and our economy is flat at best. There is no sign of a real recovery. Obama is a tax and spend SOCIALIST. Brain dead zombies for Obama follow him over the Fiscal cliff like lemmings.
Aquagirl
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
I think we have the phrase for the day. i love it, pantyhose puppets.
I think that should go in the permanent lexicon. We need a name for all these wives, girlfriends, next-door neighbors etc. our con menz cite as proof they know teh wimmen stuff. They have entire wardrobes full of these pantyhose puppets endorsing their every thought.
williebkind
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
gm:
You didnt get the memo?
flagboy?
November 5th, 2012
11:03 am
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
10:53 am
And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.
__________________________________
. . .
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
11:03 am
Ah, I see now.
Kyle has a thread up about charter schools with only 100 or so comments, so in order to rant against Obama, the sock-puppets have to come here.
Too funny!
Rafe Hollister
November 5th, 2012
11:04 am
http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/10/30/cooling_out_the_voters
You are being played for patsies, Libs.
willie lynch
November 5th, 2012
11:04 am
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
10:59 am
Yeah, I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part. Armstrong is great but maybe Ray would have laid down a great version too.
Oscar
November 5th, 2012
11:04 am
Conservative women do not have equal rights as liberal women.
-________________
Strange statement. I thought everyone had equal rights.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Independent Thinker
Another item to consider is who will end up spending more to win this auction? History suggest in presidential and congressional elections, whoever spends the most has 94% chance of winning..
Also, don’t the Redskins have some play in this as well..??
O. Pinions
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
So what you are saying Jay is that we acted decisively, but we were just out planned, out maneuvered, out smarted, and then totally out gunned by a group of young people upset about a video.
Screw the news coverage about what did not happen. Just talk about what DID happened.
You seem to be saying that we did respond like the most powerful nation on earth, just way too late to be effective.
Cause no one could have read the August cable and thought we might be vulnerable and made any plans to respond if all hell broke loose on 9/11. Like the coordinated attack mentioned in the CABLE.
But President O led us fearllessly, and we did our very, very, very best but no options were available. Our ambassador and three other Americans just got lost in the fog of war and then killed. . . by a group of upset, well-armed video critics.
We really do just need to wait and read the comprehensive report. It will certainly make us feel better and give us a much more favorable version of the truth.
beam me up
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
I don’t watch television news, period. When I did, I blocked the Fox News channel just to be sure that I didn’t accidentally end up wasting my time on it. I did go to lunch last week in an establishment that had Faux News on, and I was really surprised that they were trying to make the Libya thing the top story. My only thought was “Huh. That’s weird. That hasn’t been news in weeks.” Later on I heard the whole thing explained as a Fox News generated non-controversy. The conservative echo chamber is a very peculiar place.
Regnad Kcin
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
“And Mr. Strawberry speaks up lol.”
I prefer the phrase “of eclectic taste.”
Welcome to the Occupation
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Has a single person on this forum stepped back for one second to look at the broader picture here and ask not what this or that PARTY has to gain from any particular narrative but what the US foreign policy establishment might have to gain?
Unbelievable the inability of people here to actually step out of the little cage that has been constructed for you and look at things from maybe a broader and more historically informed perspective.
alex
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Jay, instead of the same old partisan bull, write something that actually stimulates the thinking, for instance the Economist just released it’s endorsement for Obama, not exactly ringing ( the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t); none the less this comes from a slightly right of central-pro-business magazine of some influence. Will this change most people’s votes:NO, but at the very least could lead to some interesting perspectives……
barking frog
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Hopefully, after tomorrow most of
this filthy prognosticating will stop.
williebkind
November 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Aquagirl:
Do you believe conservative women have equal rights as progressive liberal women? If so explain it.
Regnad Kcin
November 5th, 2012
11:06 am
But I agree – you can’t beat Satchmo’s!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
11:06 am
Fred
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kKw_MKHYg
last one …
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:06 am
JAY
Thanks…name calling also signals concession of the debate to the name callee…
gm
November 5th, 2012
11:06 am
williebkind
What that buddy?
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Flagboy — “And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.”
You know nothing whatsoever about me, drive-by, so unless you’re going to engage me in a dialogue about myself, you’re just blowing smoke.
And last I checked, this was a non-smoking blog.
ER
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
I could not believe your comments regarding Benghazi and the death of four americans. Were did you aquire your information? And, Yes, you can move special forces within an hour off any carrier, outpost, etc. These special agents fought for 7 hours trying to stay alive thinking we were coming to save them. If one of the dead were your brother, son, father, cousin, etc., would you have researched it the same way you just attacked FOX News with your information? If you do not think this is a cover up or a major mistake in responding you are in another world. Try reporting with an open mind and do your own research as reporters use to do. Opinions or personal beliefs are not part of finding out the truth in journalism. Do yourself a favor, go back over the facts (memos, emails from the consulate and Stevens emails to the State Department) , Have you spoken to any of the actual people in charge who received the requests for help or the few who managed to get out with the help of the four who died, Also the White House and President said it was a terror attack during his third debate. Call him a lier…….. You are apparently very liberal and discount anything someone who is viewed as a conservative. How sad, I watch all news stations to get a feel of what our country is about. Unfortunately, people tend to take the word of mainstream media as gospel because they cannot form their own opinion, follow what their parents did or listen to neighbors.
Contact government offices connected to this scandal and use the “Freedom of Information Act” to acquire the documents to show the truth. It can’t be classified unless we are hinding something. When these Americans were killed they were on American soil, and the attack was considered an “An Act of War”. All countries have the same rights.
willie lynch
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Morality?
November 5th, 2012
11:02 am
So are you supporting Romney?
Oscar
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
My point is that any and all presidents get too much undeserving credit for outcomes they have little or no control over..
________
They can get too much credit and also too much blame. Same as football coaches and quarterbacks.
Bob
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Name calling. Not much thought goes into that. Most republicans don’t know what a liberal is, just like they don’t know the Georgia state flag is a replica of the original confederate flag. Hate prevents thought. Anger allows you to follow the path of least resistance. In English. The President nor the SOS could have done anything to prevent or save the ambassador in Lybia. But exploiting the dead is a political trademark. That’s why we keep abortions around when we have had birth control for 50yrs.
Morality?
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
GT – Off your lithium again I see. Your petty insults don’t bother me. Praying for your full recovery.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Mitt Romney is proof some people would be willing to elect a cardboard cut out than see this man reelected Pres.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
11:08 am
Jay, instead of the same old partisan bull, write something that…
Go to blogspot.com.
Create your own blog.
“Write something that” you wish to discuss.
See how easy that is?
They BOTH suck
November 5th, 2012
11:08 am
Morality
You respond in the manner you wish to respond in and I will do the same. Your comments are not immune from someone replying to them.
You will need to take that up with the AJC if you are so thin skinned that you feel you can post and not expect to have someone reply.
So I stand by my statement. You are questioning someone’s beliefs and I called you out. Will do it again if I feel inclined to do so.
I have called out several bloggers for speaking about Mormonism in a negative manner as well. You may or may not have read those post. That is your problem, not mine.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
11:08 am
R. Hollister — “You are being played for patsies, Libs.”
It’s sad to see an intelligent, educated man like Dr. Sowell fall so far. They *do* say that the mind is the first thing to go in old age.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 5th, 2012
11:09 am
They have entire wardrobes full of these pantyhose puppets endorsing their every thought.
I’m all bumfuzzled. I thought it was “binders full.”
curious
November 5th, 2012
11:09 am
Morality?
Please tell us again how FDR was only elected twice and has his term extended by Congress due the the emergency of WW2.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:09 am
BEAM ME UP
I have a very hard time differentiating news from entertainment….when the media became news, the news became more than suspect…..who is trustworthy? ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, MSNBC, NPR? IMO they all have about as much credibility as congress..
alex
November 5th, 2012
11:09 am
@ beam me up: a great example of confirming your bias….set your phazers on “stun”
Steve-USA
November 5th, 2012
11:11 am
STEVIE RAY@11:09
I agree.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:11 am
OSCAR
Truer words have never been spoken…it’s not an election, it’s an auction..
A vote for either is a vote for the status quo with is unacceptable…sad..
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
11:11 am
ER
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
I could not believe your comments regarding Benghazi and the death of four americans. Were did you aquire your information? And, Yes, you can move special forces within an hour off any carrier, outpost, etc.
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He told you where he got his information. Fox made theirs up.
yes you CAn move Special Forces within an hour. But move them WHERE? You can’t move them from Fort Bragg to Benghazi in an hour.
Open oyur eyes and your mind please. You are being conned.
RW-(the original)
November 5th, 2012
11:12 am
The “registered conservative” blogger is just parroting Hannity. That is the same exact words he uses.
In New York you register by party affiliation and there is a Conservative Party.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
11:12 am
wow, Rafe – Town Hall??? you don’t say!!!
next thing, you’ll point to Breitbart and the WashingtonTimes
UNCLE SAMANTHA
November 5th, 2012
11:12 am
THIS JUST IN FROM FOX NEWS
Cox Enterprises makes more money from AUTOTRADE.com than it does from the AJC……………… will take the paper to online only in 1 year then sell it to NEWSCORP!!!!!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 5th, 2012
11:12 am
And so the melt down begins….
Mark in mid-town
November 5th, 2012
11:13 am
Whatever Fox News’ faults, they are one of the few news organizations attempting to do any real reporting on the issue, as opposed to accting like the Palace Guard for Obama. Lucky for you Jay, you’ve got lots and lots of company in the msm where most seem to view that their role is to protect Obama from anything damaging, regardless of how much of your souls you need to sacrifice in the process. Is this really why you got into journalism in the first place?
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
11:14 am
How about we have a noon “cooldown” thread about Eva Cassidy and then another tooth and nail blow out to finish the afternoon and evening?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYyQcQSqpbI&feature=related
They BOTH suck
November 5th, 2012
11:15 am
RW
Can you register as a conservative here in GA? Maybe the blogger lives out of state or maybe just parroting Hannity just like a stated?
Never heard Hanitty mention the Conservative party, just conservative, however you could be correct.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
11:15 am
Chimpy McWarhardon’s duh excellent Iraq adventure –
My work is done here.
Regnad Kcin
November 5th, 2012
11:15 am
“And so the melt down begins….”
Granny, methinks it’s gonna be ugly through at least Thursday…desperate folks say desperate things…
pete
November 5th, 2012
11:16 am
Wow! What you call a “Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi”, I call 4 Americans killed by terrorists. No bias there, right Jay?
Bob
November 5th, 2012
11:16 am
Do you really believe the President just allowed them to die.
Really. Just didn’t think it was worth it. Really. Didn’t feel like blowing something else up and looking Presidential. Really.
All conspiratorist should rally behind those Irag WMD’s. Where were you when we invaded a country under false pretenses.
What a joke. Yes as you peak out from the sand people see and and hear FIRST what they want to hear.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:16 am
MORALITY @ 11:02
Wow, thats some solid, and really well thought out perspectives…I see a correlation between those with invisible friends and castigation of any with differing opinion
Your concede debate with sandbox antics..
BOTH
Funny how when either of us challenge BO the first response for a select group here is to challenge our independence as means to deflect from issue at hand..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
11:16 am
Fred –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyYYSSuNmog
RealTalk
November 5th, 2012
11:17 am
Here is a typical Republican talk radio listener. In order for him to feel “good” about himself he has to insult someone else. Notice the code words? “Spend more on car and air jordans.” What he means, but lacks the balls to just come out and say is that Krystal’s balls is Black. Like being Black is a shameful thing.
The hate and bigotry the right oozes from every pore is alarming………….
HEY FRED, It is Liberals that and closed mineded Bigots who claim they are so Inclusive. You are not, and it is always people like you with Your DOG Whistles. We all knew who holds the racism days. It is Fools Oboma Stickers on their cars.Sadly, This sickness holds no color.
I love all Americans and like Atlanta, Still Too Busy to Hate!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
11:17 am
“What you call a “Fox-induced hysteria over Benghazi”, I call 4 Americans killed by terrorists”
did you hear the point when it whistled over your head?
DannyX
November 5th, 2012
11:17 am
“I gave an opinion and said God will be the final judge…. your side SUCKS”
Morality, I hear God and Jesus were up in heaven cheering on Shock and Awe. They also love the way Republicans worship the rich and despise the poor, you guys really changed their minds on that one.
Lee
November 5th, 2012
11:18 am
All of the talking and mud slinging is for not now. I really do not believe there are too many “undecided” voters left.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
11:18 am
In New York you register by party affiliation and there is a Conservative Party.
There is a Liberal Party as well–Rudy Giuliani snagged a spot on their ballot back in 1989 (he also ran as a Republican.)
Rafe Hollister
November 5th, 2012
11:20 am
They Both Suck
First, you can’t handle the truth. Google, Benghazi and read whatever comes up, there is not much out there that explains or clears the regime; there are multiple questions and lots of emails and cables, all reflecting poorly on this regime, but no answers are forthcoming to refute the evidence available or the allegations. We are past the suspicion that something doesn’t add up and are onto who is going to take the fall. Hopefully after the election, a John Dean whistle blower will step forward with the truth, although you willfully blind sycophants will be shouting him down as he/she tries to speak.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:21 am
PETE,
No different hysteria from both sides…amendment to outlaw abortion, get more God into politics, granny off the cliff, Romney criminal, outsourcer, murderer….OMG…why should we all go on living?
We are all gonna perish…may be time to build that shelter stocked with can goods and sterno..
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
11:22 am
USinUK: I’m listening to your now but look what I found when I posted the last one. I never knew “she” did this song. “She” is definitely one of my all time favorites as well.
(Eva is killing that song. Probably the best version of it I’ve heard. I think like it better than the original, sorry Mr. Withers…… ok, I’ll say I like them equally. They should have done a duet.)
Steve-USA
November 5th, 2012
11:22 am
Lee – “All of the talking and mud slinging is for not now. I really do not believe there are too many “undecided” voters left.”
I bet a high percentage of people who post here have already cast their actual vote.
Only one day to go (hopefully.we don’t have to wait on lawyers and lawsuits) so everyone might as well calm done and see what happens.
larry
November 5th, 2012
11:22 am
I just read where Romney has sought out Glenn Beck to campaign for him.And Beck is campaigning for him. Boy, talk about despirate.
Morality?
November 5th, 2012
11:22 am
Willie – YES I have already voted for Romney! Why? Obama has failed on the economy. It is that simple. $6,000,000,000,000 down the drain – mostly to Lib causes, kickbacks and payoffs to supporters won’t get my vote. $1,000,000,000,000 pledged by Obama for the “Muslim Brotherhood” who has as their ultimate goal to wipe out Israel and the U.S. won’t get my vote. Ignoring pleas for assistance by our Ambassadors and getting them killed won’t get my vote. This election is not about the Race Card, the Gender Card, the Age Card, the Victim Card, etc, etc etc like the SOCIALIST left wants it to be. It’s about the ECONOMY and Obama’s four year failure and tragic wasteful increase of the Fed debt. We can’t afford 4 more years of Obama. Time is short and the fiscal cliff is near. If Romney fails I will vote him out too. This isn’t about being loyal to a party – Dem or Repub. It’s about being loyal to what’s best for the health of the U.S. economy and our economic survival.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:22 am
MORAITY
Can you give us visual as to exactly what your god looks like?
Fred ™
November 5th, 2012
11:23 am
LOL forgot to post the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r5oCu7JRR8&feature=fvwrel
curious
November 5th, 2012
11:23 am
Where’s USMC with his “Obama lied, people died”?
It looks more like FNC lied or, at best, parroted individuals that have an agenda; Destroy Obama, even if they have to destroy the USA in the process.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
11:23 am
I hear God and Jesus were…
Why is it always just god and jesus and no mention of the holy ghost?
Is there a bias against the heavenly haint?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 5th, 2012
11:23 am
Hopefully after the election, a John Dean whistle blower will step forward with the truth, although you willfully blind sycophants will be shouting him down as he/she tries to speak.
No, we will listen and weigh what they say. Then we come to a conclusion.
Then we will go back to mocking your kind for letting Fox News lead you around by your noses.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
STEVE
It’s about now that I wish I’d invested in liquor wholesaling…damn another missed opportunity to retire young..
Rafe Hollister
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
Mark in Midtown
11:13 well said!
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
As to the alleged enthusiasm gap wherein the metric applied is the number of bumper stickers and yard signs?
I have observed that in my neck of the northern-ATL-burbs, generally, the GOP faithful were a bit slower to don the usual proclamations. in 2008, it seemed that these things sprouted up out of nowhere immediately after the national convention, i.e., right after Labor Day.
In 2012, I’ve seen a similar number of proclamations, but they all seemed appear right after the first debate.
Which would indicate, to me, that there is a lot of bandwagoneering going on. (pretty typical really, for either side–who wants to mess up their car if they know it’s in a lost cause?)
Steve-USA
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
Typo. Down not done. Jeez I hate doing that.
flagboy?
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Flagboy — “And you’re totally blind to the possibility of it happening TO YOU.”
You know nothing whatsoever about me, drive-by, so unless you’re going to engage me in a dialogue about myself, you’re just blowing smoke.
And last I checked, this was a non-smoking blog.
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I simply copied and pasted what you typed. I don’t see what I did wrong.
and as for knowing you. . . this is the internet. . . and it’s a blog. with anonymous names and handles. . . I’d hazard to guess not many here know much about each other. It rarely stops anyone from posting their opinion though.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 5th, 2012
11:24 am
I hear they found a cigar and a blue dress in Benghazi……
MAC
November 5th, 2012
11:25 am
When Obama loses tomorrow, we’ll see real hysteria
St Simons
November 5th, 2012
11:25 am
mrsstsimons reminds us that it is a felony, even in this New Somalia
of a state, to make a medical diagnosis in writing without a license.
She sees a lot of amateur con Marcus Welbys today.
She is offering con counseling Wednesday, which she can do heheh
Lee
November 5th, 2012
11:26 am
Steve….I agree. I DO think it is going to be a very close election. It is all going to come down to Florida. I think Romney has Ohio.
Regnad Kcin
November 5th, 2012
11:26 am
Israel “IZ” Kamakawiwoʻole does another great, ethereal version – check it out, too, if you get a chance…
-Strawberry Man
They BOTH suck
November 5th, 2012
11:26 am
Stevie
What is funny is that I have never said I didn’t lean left. I have stated that numerous times. As well as saying that while leaning left, I do not think either party does a good job of governing. Just because I agree more with the overall Democrat platform doesn’t mean I think they run the “show” any better than Republicans or agree with everything they do.
When they get caught up in a “blog name”, as you say, they have little to nothing to talk about.
That is Morality’s MO when he is unwilling to debate. He asked about my voting record for Presidents a few weeks ago. I listed them all out. Morality has yet to list who he has voted for except to say, he didn’t vote for Bush or Obama.
I’m on record stating that I think Obama is mediocre and I challenge anyone to show a post where I have did much praising of him.
They can show where I have ripped the right and numerous Republican politicians. In their mind that automatically equates to me agreeing with all things Democrat and all elected Democrats, I guess.
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:26 am
The wiping out of Israel, both Granny and Fiscal falling over a cliff, takeover by the Muslims…oh my…what’s a middle aged white guy to do?
RW-(the original)
November 5th, 2012
11:28 am
Can you register as a conservative here in GA?
You don’t register by party in Georgia.
Mickey
November 5th, 2012
11:29 am
What a joke ! I cannot stop laughing, you say Fox Lies? Take your head out of the hole and stop lying to yourselves, our current president is a joke!!!!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
11:29 am
ooooooooo Fred … I loves me some Annie Lennox!!
check out Emeli Sandi – I’ve listened to this track about 5 times today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=883yQqdOaLg
OBIWAN
November 5th, 2012
11:29 am
Joe Hussein Mama;
So you believe the Obozo lies? I left the democrat party after seeing that they ARE 100% NOT FOR THE PEOPLE, they are 100% about themselves. If you all like Obozo so much move the south side of Chicago, he has done such a good job there, right? You all cry about the “Bush” wars, but more people are shot and killed in the south side of Chicago than in both wars, yeah your correct he has done such a good job…right?
George Watson
November 5th, 2012
11:29 am
If they can make it against the law to cry ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater when there isn’t one, they can make it against the law to report bogus news in an attempt to throw an election. This is voter fraud the most heinous kind. Where’s a good Attorney General when you need one.
Ronald Reagan
November 5th, 2012
11:30 am
People died & Barry H. lied!
They BOTH suck
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
Rafe
Just because you want to believe something doesn’t make it true.
Refute what the article says and we all get a chuckle.
I nor you know the exact truth. You think you do because what you have heard meets your narrative, however that doesn’t make it so, no matter how bad you want to believe it.
You can click you heels together 1000 times, but no matter how bad you want to be in Kansas, unless you start walking, get in car or on a plane……. you wont be in Kansas.
RW-(the original)
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
Which would indicate, to me, that there is a lot of bandwagoneering going on.
stands,
I don’t disagree with that, but isn’t bandwagoneering more useful the closer it happens to coincide with election day?
alex
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
@kamchak, that was SO helpful,now go read the endorsement , learn something NEW and report back… Sheesh
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
BOTHSUCK
I hear you…anyone who buys either parties platform hook, line and sinker is not creative or capable of independent thought…..simply regurgitating partisan ads and talking points and getting hysterial and emotionally unhinged…
independent thinker
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
Someon remind me how many Americans died on 9-11 while our so-called National Security advisor sis not do her job? and how many died while our president read “My Pet Goat”? And how many Americans died in Embassy attacks while Bush was in office? And how many American died in Iraq for a totally wasted war so that Iran would have an ally instead of an enemy? And how many died in Afghanistan to keep in power a corrupt government.?
And how many died in Libya to remove a dictator who was the first major terrorist to use a passenger airplane to kill Americans?
And how many Marines died in Lebanon when our saint of a president took no action and let Hezbollah claim victory?
Ahh but that evil black Muslim in the White House purposely let four Americans die in Benghhazi because he wanted to cover up his inability to wipe out Al-Quaida and actually sympathizes with radical Muslims who have infiltrated his government.
Quite a story- who wrote it ?Hannity; M. Bachmann or Limbaugh or Rove?
Welcome to the Occupation
November 5th, 2012
11:31 am
Morality?: “This election is not about the Race Card, the Gender Card, the Age Card, the Victim Card, etc, etc etc like the SOCIALIST left wants it to be. It’s about the ECONOMY”
Huh? That would be a very strange sort of socialism that cared only about things like gender and race and nothing at all about ECONOMY.
Socialism was born in a concern over the ECONOMIC ravages of capitalism and that continues to be the life and blood of any socialism worthy of the name.