GOP believes it benefits by making voting difficult
Republicans believe — for valid statistical and historic reasons — that lower voter turnout increases their odds of success. So they have not been shy about using a variety of means, legal and otherwise, to try to keep voter participation as low as possible.
In Virginia, the state has begun an investigation into the destruction of voter-registration forms by a company that was hired by the state Republican Party. On Sunday, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli sent out an email to his fellow Republicans, celebrating the fact that “when I looked yesterday, so far there are over 357,000 absentee votes cast. That’s barely over 70 percent of the 2008 total. That’s bad for them.”
In Ohio, Secretary of State Jon Husted, also a Republican, had to be forced by federal court order to open early voting to all Ohio citizens. Long voting lines over the weekend in Ohio testified to the importance of that ruling. Husted also had to be forced by court order to count votes that are accidentally cast in the wrong precinct because of poll-worker, not voter, error. Husted was more than willing to just toss those votes aside, stripping those who cast them of their right to be heard.
Furthermore, as the Toledo Blade reports, “Thousands of absentee ballot applications may have been rejected because Mr. Husted’s office did not send 33,000 updated registration records to local election officials until after the deadline for changes.”
The biggest problems, however, are occurring in a state all too familiar with election litigation and controversy. With immensely long lines already apparent throughout the state, Florida Gov. Rick Scott refused to extend early voting opportunities, breaking with the precedent set by his two predecessors in the office, both of whom were Republican. And in what may have been a freelance effort to shut down voting — nobody in an official capacity would ever approve such a stunt — early voting was interrupted Saturday at a Democratic precinct in Winter Park by the discovery of two “suspicious packages,” which had to be destroyed by a bomb disposal unit.
As Andrew Cohen writes in The Atlantic:
” … what is happening this weekend in Florida is simply unacceptable. According to a local election official interviewed by CBS News’ Phil Hirschkorn, the last “early voter” in line for Saturday’s truncated early voting in Palm Beach County finally got to cast a ballot at 2:30 Sunday morning, which means that voter waited in line for more than seven hours. In Miami, another traditional Democratic stronghold, the wait was said to be nearly as long. On Sunday, voters all over the state were begging judges and county officials for more time to vote.
This is happening not because of a natural disaster or a breakdown in machinery. It is happening by partisan design. Alarmed by the strong Democratic turnout in early voting in 2008, Republican lawmakers, including Gov. Rick Scott, reduced the number of early-voting days from 14 to eight….
If Florida’s election officials, and its Republican lawmakers, and its state and federal judges, all were required to stand in line for seven hours to vote, those long lines would go away forever. You know it, I know it, and so do those officials.”
No public official — no American patriot — ought to try to discourage fellow Americans from voting. No political party ought to advance its own prospects by trying to reduce rather than increase participation in the most fundamental rite and right of democratic self-government.
Because if that’s your route to power, you’re doomed to failure in the long term, and you ought to be.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
November 5th, 2012
5:48 pm
JamVet,
He freaked out after Sandy and attacked christie. too.
Glad he will be gone soon.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
5:49 pm
Obama should offer free abortions from 2-4PM on Weds if he wins, like that free Doritos Taco Bell stolen base offer from the World Series
Heh, heh, heh.
josef
November 5th, 2012
5:50 pm
DOGGONE
“…how many are voting for him because he’s not Obama?”
I’d hazard about the same number who are voting for Obama because he’s not Romney.
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
5:51 pm
@kayaker 71
November 5th, 2012
5:14 pm
Do all of those “stolen” votes that the evil Repubs stole equal all the names that ACORN took to the polling place from tombstones in 2008. Bookman implies that Republicans make it difficult for people to vote but so far, the only ones complaining are Democrats. Are you implying that it is harder for a Democrat to vote than it is for a Republican? That’s hogwash, Bookman, and you know it.
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There’s simply no proof to back up claims that ACORN tampered with ballots.
Yes, CONS are making it difficult for people to vote.
They are even making it difficult for OTHER CONS TO VOTE.
CONS are “Cutting off the nose to spite the face.”
They will pay for trying to STEAL THE VOTE.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 5th, 2012
5:51 pm
JAMVET
I don’t think your guy needs to spike the ball over OBL…he wouldn’t have a the chance to make the easy decision if he didn’t benefit from rebuilt ME intelligence network…anyone would have made the same decision..
As a liberal, do you see any issue with Obama sending tacit approval to the world that it is ok to use drones to assassinate folks on foreign soil? I’m getting the impression that the Taliban will completely take back Afghanistan shortly after we split, al queda continues its expansion likely back to pre war levels…of course this is better than sending our troops over there but it’s an interesting precedent for liberals to establish..
I don’t think we should have gone to war at either…our arrogance continues to write checks our piggie bank can’t cash…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
5:52 pm
Doggone/GA
You owe me a soft drink — Mountain Dew Throwback will “dew” just fine. I had my first one just the other day. Do you find that it tastes different than regular MD?
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
5:52 pm
We have not remotely recovered Adam…the unemployment rate is very unstable (despite the spin it did actually go up…)…
I think any and most Americans would gladly take adding 130k jobs per month if the other option was to lose 500k-700k in that same month. When the economy bottomed out, I remember reading an article that stated that when we were about to see a substantial recovery begin, unemployment would actually go up for a while. That would be because of people re-entering the job market after giving up. If we see jobs being added and the unemployment rate climbing, that could be the reason.
I’d much rather take the more optimistic approach to this, especially since you can’t spell American without I-C-A-N as opposed to taking your overly pessimistic view on things. That’s just me though.
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
5:53 pm
Obama should offer free abortions from 2-4PM on Weds if he wins, like that free Doritos Taco Bell stolen base offer from the World Series
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Myth Robme should offer FREE RELIGIOUS UNDERWEAR if
he wants to win.
Maybe they could help him WIN.
heeheeheeheehee
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
5:55 pm
Make payment of either income tax or property tax a prerequisite to vote.
What part of the 24th Amendment to the United States Constitution do you not understand?
“1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.” — 24th Amendment
Paul
November 5th, 2012
5:56 pm
When a Party can’t convince a majority of voters of the superiority of their cause and has to resort to lies, deception and suppression to gain power, that Party is a stain on the democratic process.
Power and money. Corrupt acts always get down to power and money.
Old Goober
November 5th, 2012
5:57 pm
As a liberal, do you see any issue with Obama sending tacit approval to the world that it is ok to use drones to assassinate folks on foreign soil?
As a Republican lackey, do you see any issue with G.W. Bush fabricating a rationale for attacking another nation and with torturing people on an American base to obtain information?
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
5:57 pm
Make payment of either income tax or property tax a prerequisite to vote.
You do realize there are millions of foreign nationals who pay US income taxes and/or property taxes, right? If that becomes a prerequisite to vote, how do you draw the line as to who can and can not vote?
Paul
November 5th, 2012
5:57 pm
Kamchak
My interruption: yes, it does. But as is true with most things, it doesn’t taste nearly as good as the memory of my childhood tells me it should -
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 5th, 2012
5:58 pm
GETALIFE
If it were me, i’d go easy on predicting not only tomorrow (your guy will win) but the customer satisfaction surveys the will come out of FEMA’s/Obamas performance with Sandy…
The tone has changed from Obama getting quick photo ops to reality setting in and FEMA getting poor scores.
Its getting ugly…how long did it take Bush’s dopes to get water to the big easy?
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
5:59 pm
“Do you find that it tastes different than regular MD?”
Yep, but I also think it tastes better. But like a lot of drinks sweetened with cane suger it has to be really cold. It start to get cloying as it warms up.
Paul
November 5th, 2012
5:59 pm
“how do you draw the line as to who can and can not vote?”
According to the theme of the thread, first they gotta register Republican -
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
6:00 pm
@Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
5:52 pm
Doggone/GA
You owe me a soft drink — Mountain Dew Throwback will “dew” just fine. I had my first one just the other day. Do you find that it tastes different than regular MD?
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Beware of the DEW.
Have you heard about the MOUNTAIN DEW MOUTH?
When dentists examined the teeth of adolescents who drank a steady diet of Mountain Dew, they observed a high level of tooth decay.
Beware of the DEW.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
6:01 pm
Paul
Sierra Mist switched over to sugar from HFCS a couple of years ago and I noticed the change in taste immediately. Not worse, just different.
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
6:02 pm
…anyone would have made the same decision..
Says you.
I don’t buy it
Willard is a pansy without the balls to have called the thumbs up on that mission.
The downside was politically HUGE.
And had those SEALS been captured and tortured or even out-right killed, the cons here would still be partying.
The skinny lite black guy punked the chickenhawks in the GOP…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
6:03 pm
Have you heard about the MOUNTAIN DEW MOUTH?
I drink more beer than MD.
Beer belly is my bane.
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
6:04 pm
Obama should offer free abortions from 2-4PM on Weds if he wins…
Geez! Can’t you Republicans get your women to pay for their own damn abortions?
LOL!
Marc
November 5th, 2012
6:05 pm
Jay hwy do you and every liberal out there not see the difference between having laws that protect the legitimate voters vote being negated by illegal voters? I forgot the vast majority of voter irregularities have been perpetuated by the left that’s why. If you can’t win fair cheat the MO of the Democratic party!
josef
November 5th, 2012
6:09 pm
ZamVet
Republican “women” don’t need no abortions. They got balls…!! (from last p.m.)
Thomas
November 5th, 2012
6:09 pm
Sign of an inept and lazy writer:
“Republicans believe”
really- all Republicans believe this to be true Jay Bird?
So not being a lazy arse I blogged and got this:
President Obama told a crowd of college students on Wednesday (August of this year) that Republicans are “banking” on low voter turnout in November and hoping that the key demographic, which catapulted him to the presidency in 2008, will just stay home this time around.
So I then google “Democrats want low white turnout”.
interesting.
Jay Bird- it is a great country that you make a generous living putting out such folly.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
6:10 pm
Jay hwy(sic) do you and every liberal out there not see the difference between having laws that protect the legitimate voters vote being negated by illegal voters?
Marc
How do you and every conservative out there not see that the crap you’re peddling as protecting legitimate voters does not do what you say and does nothing to stop illegal voting?
I forgot the vast majority of voter irregularities have been perpetuated by the left that’s why.
Got proof, or is this “fact” colonesque in reality?
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
6:12 pm
Joe:
I think your aim’s off, Righty.
“If States have authority and control over the conduct of their own elections, then where, exactly, does the SCOTUS derive the authority to tell a State how to conduct an election and recount the votes therefrom deriving?”
“The answer is in what the Scotus itself said in Bush v. Gore, e.g. ‘don’t rely on this decision as a precedent,’ which was itself an unprecedented statement.”
“The SCOTUS *could* have allowed FL to proceed with the recount with a single standard, with the understanding that if not complete by the deadline, the State’s EVs would not be awarded, thereby throwing the election to the Congress to decide.”
You are off on several points. Just because the constitution allows states to determine the method of selecting electors does not mean the state is not bound by those sections of the constitution that require citizens to have equal rights. For example the Democrats could not just count those areas of the state they so desired. Would you have thought it okay to just recount the military bases in the Florida pan handle or just the white neighborhoods?
The supremes didn’t want the decision to be precedent because the circumstances of each election would be unique.
The federal law requires all votes to be in by a deadline to avoid endless recounts and endless law suits by sore losers.
Fact, is Bush won four state wide voter counts. He won the original election, he won the automatic recount, and he won two post election media counts which is why for wnyone to say if the Democrats had been allowed more time Gore would have won is simply not true because Bush won each post election recount as well as the actual recounts. So all the whinning about more counts is meaningless because there were two more statewide counts by the media and Bush won those as well. My point is that Democrats.to this day lie about the results of that election without mentioning tat one of the major news networks called the election for Gore befofre the polls closed in the panhandle which is heavy Republican terrirtory. That vote was supressed by the false news costing Bush several hundred if not several thousand votes which might have made a recount not neccessary. So, keep dreaming. Bush won fair and square. Close to be sure, but nothing funny happened.
Wilbur
November 5th, 2012
6:14 pm
Democrats believe that they benefit by making fraud easy. They have depended on voter fraud in close elections for generations.
If it’s important that every vote count, it’s an unavoidable truth that election integrity is just as important.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
6:14 pm
Doggone/GA
Cloying — an apt description and I hadn’t noticed that until you just brought it up.
Boris Badnoff
November 5th, 2012
6:15 pm
How could anyone not vote for Our Beloved Messiah considering his endorsements? Extremely impressive: Vladimir Putin, the Czar of Russia who dedication to free speech and democracy is validated by the imprisonment of the notorious Pussy Riot; Raul and Fidel Castro who have taken Cuba to the same level of economic development as the USA will be after another 4 years of Our Beloved Messiah; Hugo Chavez, the liberator of Venezuela, Honey Boo Boo, noted philosopher, and our own Jay Bookman, internationally renowned unbiased political commentator. As Michael Palin said in “A Fish Called Wanda”: Revenge. Revenge. Revenge. The Maya may rescue us after all.
ragnar danneskjold
November 5th, 2012
6:15 pm
Proof of Nate Silver’s genius:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/11/03/magazine/538-gdp-election-calculator.html
F. Sinkwich
November 5th, 2012
6:23 pm
Lib ilks think this Silver guy is some sort of Nostradamus.
Figures.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
6:27 pm
Proof of Nate Silver’s genius:
Well, given that Huntsman has often been seen as a much better choice to actually defeat Obama, that whole calculator might have a bit of truth connected to it. If Romney comes up short, I’m sure the self flagellation will begin shortly thereafter along with the what if’s about Huntsman.
Truth-o-meter
November 5th, 2012
6:27 pm
Mick, glad you were able to vote. Now what are you people going to do to get rid of gov. Scott? I will never spend another penny in Fla. as long as he is gov.
F. Sinkwich
November 5th, 2012
6:29 pm
“Well, given that Huntsman has often been seen as a much better choice to actually defeat Obama,…”
Sez who? You?
Bwaahahahahahahaha
ragnar danneskjold
November 5th, 2012
6:29 pm
Just sat down with an electoral map, assumed Romney would lose Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan, but I still have him winning. I differ from Joe Trippi by giving Romney Wisconsin, Colorado, and Virginia. Those six states seem to be the ones to watch – if Obama loses as many as three of them, he loses the election, he has to take four out of six. Romney could run the table and finish with 325.
ragnar danneskjold
November 5th, 2012
6:32 pm
While I admit having fun at the expense of those locked into Nate Silver’s analysis, note his clear-eyed odds for Romney assuming a rotten growth rate of 2.25%.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
6:33 pm
Brosephus™
I forgot the vast majority of voter irregularities have been perpetuated by the left that’s why.
Got proof, or is this “fact” colonesque in reality?
Just in the last couple of days there are reports of the NAACP inside a polling place in Houston, TX promoting Obama and moving their favored voters to the head of the line in violation of laws. There have been votes for Romney being tallied by the voter machines as votes for Obama in North Carolina, Ohio and other states. (Strange the reverse has not happened!) There have been reports of Democrats threatening riots, and harm to Romney including murder that have not been investigated by our racist Justice Department. There are reports of Miami, Dade and Broward counties, Florida polling places being held open extra hours in violation of state laws, All majority Democrat counties. There is a report of a Democrat in Virginia caught live on TV teleing a reporter how to cheat the sustem and vote multiple times. There is a Democrat in Maryland running for office that was caught voting in Florida as well as in Maryland. There is the president of the United States himself advocating class warfare and seeking “revenge” which sounds like violence to me. Just a few examples of Democrat voter fraud while there are no known cases of Republican voter fraud. None. All of the above examples of Democrat fraud have been reported by the media. Look them up.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
6:35 pm
SHEETS!
nobodyyouknow
November 5th, 2012
6:39 pm
I’m in my 70’s. I just don’t see what the problem is with having to show picture I.D. to vote.It will not stop all voting fraud but its a start You have to show I.D. for everything else. And please stop with the “disinfranciseing talk”. I’m sick to death of that. What ever happened to the term all the media was useing “grivetaus” (spelling?) They stopped using it this election. I guess neither candidate has “grivetaus”.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
6:40 pm
True this is a Romney internal poll. But then most of the other polls are Democrat generated so this is about the same only different.
Exclusive: Romney UP one point in Ohio and TIED in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, according to his campaign’s internal pollingRomney is also three points up in New Hampshire
But he is trailing in Nevada, according to campaign pollster Neil Newhouse
If the figures hold true Romney will almost certainly become the 45th President of the United States
By Toby Harnden
PUBLISHED: 15:28 EST, 5 November 2012 | UPDATED: 18:23 EST, 5 November 2012
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..Mitt Romney is ahead by a single percentage point in Ohio – the swing state that many believe could decide the election, according to internal polling data provided to MailOnline by a Republican party source.
Internal campaign polling completed last night by campaign pollster Neil Newhouse has Romney three points up in New Hampshire, two points up in Iowa and dead level in Wisconsin and – most startlingly – Pennsylvania.
If the Romney campaign’s internal numbers are correct – and nearly all independent pollsters have come up with a picture much more favourable for Obama – then the former Massachusetts governor will almost certainly be elected 45th U.S. President.
RF
November 5th, 2012
6:46 pm
“Just in the last couple of days there are reports of the NAACP inside a polling place in Houston, TX promoting Obama and moving their favored voters to the head of the line in violation of laws.”
as reported by breitbart.com……yeah, folks are really gonna believe that source.
The Florida polls were held open because folks had been in line as much as seven hours. If they were in the line before scheduled closing time, should they have just shut and locked the doors like they did Sunday in the middle of the day because they weren’t ready for the line? With a TEN PAGE ballot, what do you expect?
RF
November 5th, 2012
6:49 pm
“Lib ilks think this Silver guy is some sort of Nostradamus.”
Yeah, kinda like the right worships and signed pledges for Grover Norquist.
Figures.
RF
November 5th, 2012
6:52 pm
Is it just me, or do the wingnuts seem especially agitated today? Generally those who are confident of a win don’t get so snippy. Are you that afraid that the moderate Dem might just win again despite all your conspiracies that never were and all the Kenyan Muslim/Socialist/America Hater bullshyte you’ve screamed for four long years?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
7:01 pm
Is it just me, or do the wingnuts seem especially agitated today?
They’re also agitated upstairs in the new thread.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
7:11 pm
The Obama administration kicked out volunteers from the National Guard, Army and Air Force who are in New York to assist the victims of hurricane Sandy from their sleeping accomodations in a National Guard Armory where they have been sleeping in shifts because of lack of accomodations. The reason, Victoria Secret Models need the space to put on a show. In addition, the show is using badly needed generators that could be used to provide power to victims of the hurricane as well. This is what happens when Obama puts the resources of the federal governmnet at the victims disposal and stands at their backs. What a derilict. One thing is clear from Obama’s actions in Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and hurriicane Sandy is you can’t count on Obama to help you if you are in trouble. Now in fairness to Obama he does take care of his friends, especially the ones who make large donations or can draw a crowd.
Charles Douglas Edwards
November 5th, 2012
7:14 pm
The United States of America is a democracy. It is the home of the brave and the land of the free.
Every eligible citizen should have the right to cast a vote. The right to vote is the heartbeat of a free society and democratic society.
Voting is a right that many have fought for. Many Americans have lost their lives fighting for the rights of people to vote.
Any man, group or organization that would willfully try to suppress, intimidate, deceive or deny you the right to vote is unpatriotic and goes against the very fiber of a free country.
You may not vote for me so you cannot vote.
The United States of America should encourage all it citizens to vote and make the process as easy as possible.
WE THE PEOPLE STAND UP AND REJECT VOTER SUPPRESSION !!!
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
7:23 pm
Mighty Righty
There have been reports of dogs humping in the French Quarters. If that’s all you have, I wouldn’t quit my day job. I understand that living in an echo chamber, such as you do, makes those things seem like OHMYGOSH!!!!! when there would be sirens and bells going off all over the place if there were really voter “irregularities” going on.
kayaker 71
November 5th, 2012
7:24 pm
Wonder if that Black Panther thug will show up in Philadelphia tomorrow and give a speech on killing white babies? Now there’s a true Democrat.
RF
November 5th, 2012
7:40 pm
“The Obama administration kicked out volunteers from the National Guard, Army and Air Force who are in New York to assist the victims of hurricane Sandy from their sleeping accomodations in a National Guard Armory where they have been sleeping in shifts because of lack of accomodations.”
Got a link to that…other than breitbart.com or wnd.com?
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
8:16 pm
@Wilbur
November 5th, 2012
6:14 pm
Democrats believe that they benefit by making fraud easy. They have depended on voter fraud in close elections for generations.
If it’s important that every vote count, it’s an unavoidable truth that election integrity is just as important.
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CONS believe that they benefit by STEALING. They have depended on STEALING in close elections for generations.
Like they did in 2000 WHEN THEY STOLE THE ELECTION
between Bush/Cheney and Gore/Lieberman.
It is not the mouse who is the thief, it is the hole that allows the mouse in.
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
8:19 pm
@kayaker 71
November 5th, 2012
7:24 pm
Wonder if that Black Panther thug will show up in Philadelphia tomorrow and give a speech on killing white babies? Now there’s a true Democrat.
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Wonder if the KKK/Tea Party thugs will show up at any of the polls and give
a speech on white pride?
NOW THERE’S A TRUE CON.
What is the difference between stealing an office and stealing a purse?
November 5th, 2012
8:25 pm
@Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
6:40 pm
True this is a Romney internal poll. But then most of the other polls are Democrat generated so this is about the same only different.
Exclusive: Romney UP one point in Ohio and TIED in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, according to his campaign’s internal pollingRomney is also three points up in New Hampshire
But he is trailing in Nevada, according to campaign pollster Neil Newhouse
If the figures hold true Romney will almost certainly become the 45th President of the United States
By Toby Harnden
PUBLISHED: 15:28 EST, 5 November 2012 | UPDATED: 18:23 EST, 5 November 2012
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The former Massachusetts governor will almost certainly be elected 45th U.S. President.
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The former Massachusetts governor will almost certainly be elected 45th U.S. President?
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Thank you for that joke.
I NEEDED A GOOD LAUGH.
Adam
November 5th, 2012
10:22 pm
Stevie Ray: We have more than “remotely recovered” thanks to the overall trend, and the fact that the BLS has under estimated job gains for over a year now.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 6th, 2012
9:24 am
Doggone — “And all it would take is a bribable DB operator to get false information in there.”
Which is why you don’t rely on a Single Point Of Failure like *one* DB operator. Seriously, that’s one of the *easiest* things to fix; a simple division of labor, where *multiple* operators have to mutually agree to any changes
“And there there’s the issue of talented hackers. “Read Only” is only as good as the sys op who maintains it.”
You can’t hack into a system that’s physically disconnected from a network, Doggone.
Hack into that sys op account and change it to editable and you have an insecure DB.
One of the first systems I ever participated in developing/implementing was a detached, secure payroll line. There was no way to hack into the system because the system wasn’t *connected* to anything hackable.
If you’d like to detail how you could hack into a system that has no physical or wireless connections to *any* other data networks, I’m all ears.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 6th, 2012
9:36 am
Righty — “You are off on several points. Just because the constitution allows states to determine the method of selecting electors does not mean the state is not bound by those sections of the constitution that require citizens to have equal rights. For example the Democrats could not just count those areas of the state they so desired.”
Which wasn’t what happened anyway. The issue wasn’t how the votes were *counted,* but how they were *re*counted. Once again, your aim’s off.
“Would you have thought it okay to just recount the military bases in the Florida pan handle or just the white neighborhoods?”
I love how you leave out key information and then act like your misunderstanding is in some way representative of what actually happened.
“The supremes didn’t want the decision to be precedent because the circumstances of each election would be unique.”
SCOTUS decisions ARE precedent. That’s the whole notion behind Stare Decisis. You DO know what that is, don’t you? Conservatives HATE it.
“The federal law requires all votes to be in by a deadline to avoid endless recounts and endless law suits by sore losers.”
You pretty clearly need reminding of who filed the legal complaint in Bush v. Gore, because it wasn’t the Democratic side. And as far as ‘avoiding endless recounds and endless law suits by sore losers,’ how come you never complain about the 2008 election for Senate in Minnesota? Sore loser Norm Coleman’s lawsuits kept Minnesota from having two sitting Senators for six months.
Frankly, I suspect that sore Republican losers are just fine with you.
“Fact, is Bush won four state wide voter counts. He won the original election, he won the automatic recount, and he won two post election media counts which is why for wnyone to say if the Democrats had been allowed more time Gore would have won is simply not true because Bush won each post election recount as well as the actual recounts.”
So once again, why haven’t I ever heard you complain about the 2008 Senate election in Minnesota? That went on for MONTHS, with Al Franken winning every recount.
Frankly, I think you’re just a hypocrite.
“So all the whinning about more counts is meaningless because there were two more statewide counts by the media and Bush won those as well. My point is that Democrats.to this day lie about the results of that election without mentioning tat one of the major news networks called the election for Gore befofre the polls closed in the panhandle which is heavy Republican terrirtory. That vote was supressed by the false news costing Bush several hundred if not several thousand votes which might have made a recount not neccessary. So, keep dreaming. Bush won fair and square.”
Kinda like Franken, huh?
“Close to be sure, but nothing funny happened.”
Having the SCOTUS stop the recount doesn’t *prove* that nothing funny happened. It just demonstrates that *someone* was afraid of the counts continuing. If the FL EVs hadn’t been counted because of the delay, the election would have gone to Congress and Bush still would have won — so it’s clear that Republicans wanted the recount stopped for some other reason.
Regrettably, we shall probably never know what the real reason was.
Back in the USSA
November 6th, 2012
9:45 am
Jay, I like you personally; you are charming, funny and smart. But, you are a minion of the democrats, an Obama underling, corrupt and disgusting in your attempt to propagandize this election. You are supposed to be a journalist, not a rah-rah cheerleader.
You can do better. You don’t really believe all this tripe you write, do you?
hnbc
November 6th, 2012
10:46 pm
I read about these voter suppression tactics by Republicans and I just want to cry. It is so terribly sad that they believe the only way they can win is by stopping the democratic process in its tracks. One day these tactics will come back and bite ‘em on the you-know-what. I just hope I’m around to see it.
This is something that the federal government needs to take up but I seriously doubt that will happen.
Banderson
November 7th, 2012
11:29 pm
This is still a great country. I mean, college dropouts like Sean Hannity, Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh can make millions selling snake oil. Opportunity abounds, even if they have to pay a tad more in taxes. Of course, they can leave – it wouldn’t hurt my feelings.