GOP believes it benefits by making voting difficult
Republicans believe — for valid statistical and historic reasons — that lower voter turnout increases their odds of success. So they have not been shy about using a variety of means, legal and otherwise, to try to keep voter participation as low as possible.
In Virginia, the state has begun an investigation into the destruction of voter-registration forms by a company that was hired by the state Republican Party. On Sunday, Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli sent out an email to his fellow Republicans, celebrating the fact that “when I looked yesterday, so far there are over 357,000 absentee votes cast. That’s barely over 70 percent of the 2008 total. That’s bad for them.”
In Ohio, Secretary of State Jon Husted, also a Republican, had to be forced by federal court order to open early voting to all Ohio citizens. Long voting lines over the weekend in Ohio testified to the importance of that ruling. Husted also had to be forced by court order to count votes that are accidentally cast in the wrong precinct because of poll-worker, not voter, error. Husted was more than willing to just toss those votes aside, stripping those who cast them of their right to be heard.
Furthermore, as the Toledo Blade reports, “Thousands of absentee ballot applications may have been rejected because Mr. Husted’s office did not send 33,000 updated registration records to local election officials until after the deadline for changes.”
The biggest problems, however, are occurring in a state all too familiar with election litigation and controversy. With immensely long lines already apparent throughout the state, Florida Gov. Rick Scott refused to extend early voting opportunities, breaking with the precedent set by his two predecessors in the office, both of whom were Republican. And in what may have been a freelance effort to shut down voting — nobody in an official capacity would ever approve such a stunt — early voting was interrupted Saturday at a Democratic precinct in Winter Park by the discovery of two “suspicious packages,” which had to be destroyed by a bomb disposal unit.
As Andrew Cohen writes in The Atlantic:
” … what is happening this weekend in Florida is simply unacceptable. According to a local election official interviewed by CBS News’ Phil Hirschkorn, the last “early voter” in line for Saturday’s truncated early voting in Palm Beach County finally got to cast a ballot at 2:30 Sunday morning, which means that voter waited in line for more than seven hours. In Miami, another traditional Democratic stronghold, the wait was said to be nearly as long. On Sunday, voters all over the state were begging judges and county officials for more time to vote.
This is happening not because of a natural disaster or a breakdown in machinery. It is happening by partisan design. Alarmed by the strong Democratic turnout in early voting in 2008, Republican lawmakers, including Gov. Rick Scott, reduced the number of early-voting days from 14 to eight….
If Florida’s election officials, and its Republican lawmakers, and its state and federal judges, all were required to stand in line for seven hours to vote, those long lines would go away forever. You know it, I know it, and so do those officials.”
No public official — no American patriot — ought to try to discourage fellow Americans from voting. No political party ought to advance its own prospects by trying to reduce rather than increase participation in the most fundamental rite and right of democratic self-government.
Because if that’s your route to power, you’re doomed to failure in the long term, and you ought to be.
– Jay Bookman
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td
November 5th, 2012
2:15 pm
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:13 pm
“Thank you 1959 GOP for waking up the sleeping Giants, this is why Blacks, Latinos are breaking voting records thru out the country. ”
Link please?
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
Tealiban Party
Those country know Obama is a leader and will not bully the world, how did that bully work out with the last administration? 3500 Americans dead 911, 4,0000 American soldiers dead.
snoqualmiefalls
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
But Jay, no mention of Romney having a secret mistress in Cuba, no mention of Romney getting real close to the Mexican drug cartels, no mention of Romney’s good friend Raul Salinas, former Prez of Mexico ensconsed in Ireland since Mexico and Ireland have no extradition treaty. It’s gotta be the LIBERAL press that is keeping these facts to themselves… but hey the people have a right to know all about this sorid affair, don’t they? Just like the people have a right to know all about our communist, socialist, Buddist, Muslim, Keynan terrorist, President Obama. there’s a sucker born every minute… ha ha ha
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
td — “One weekend (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) to vote in person at your local precinct with a voter id. Absentee voting must be for military or people out of the country only. If you can not make plans for one weekend every four years then you do not need to vote.”
So if I got stuck in another city for two weeks like I did right after 9/11, that’s just too bad for me, huh?
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
“Wrong. The State Legislatures get to decide how the electors are chosen”
Nope. They get to choose WHO they are, and how their votes are allocated…but the general population votes on electors for each candidate
ad
November 5th, 2012
2:17 pm
I see our GOP posters still don’t have any proof cited of this massive movement of illegals voting for Democrats. Also, how are all those absentee voters (largely GOP’ers) presenting their picture ID’s?
bookman parrot
November 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
Jay,
You are right. We should let dead people vote, and people go from precinct to precinct and vote multiple times, and what the hell, let foreign nationals vote as well … no wait that would be the liberal way… oh yeah you support that though.
I will say that anyone that taints the voting process by illegal methods should be jailed.
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
td
Turn off low information fox and look at the lines in the Latinos and blacks areas, of course Fox is not going to show you iditos this because they dont want to scare the bigots and exremist on the right.
Tealiban Party
November 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
Those country know Obama is a leader and will not bully the world, how did that bully work out with the last administration? 3500 Americans dead 911, 4,0000 American soldiers dead.
Exactly GM. I found it interesting that Pakistan is the only place favoring Romney. I guess birds of an extremist feather, still do flock together.
GT
November 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
The electorial is going to kill ya. Just like it did Gore. Payback is going to be hell but I seriously think O will win the electoral college and lose the popular vote.
bookman parrot
November 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
you could just as well title your propaganda “dems believe anything goes, legal or not, helps them”
Jap6205
November 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
I don’t get it. I see all of these comments about how people disagree with the tactics the republicans use. But Georgia is still a republican state. Someone please explain this to me.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:19 pm
Jack — “Since all the lastest polls favor Romney, he can put the Obama column in that dumpster.”
So you slept through the weekend, huh?
St Simons
November 5th, 2012
2:20 pm
oh yeah Rush is blubbering nonstop about the redskin theory.
i got your redskin theory right here, buddy.
no comments yet on his dominican boys theory.
Don't Tread
November 5th, 2012
2:20 pm
“When fat little heirs pay a lower tax rate on interest income they “earn” while out on their fancy sailboats, drinking french booze and snorting south american blow than a hard-working parent “earns” putting in a long day’s back-breaking work, then somebody’s not paying a fair share”
There’s a lot of hate and wealth envy in one sentence, with a side order of unfounded accusations of criminal behavior.
Other people have more money than you, and maybe some inherited it. Get over it.
td
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
td — “One weekend (Friday, Saturday and Sunday) to vote in person at your local precinct with a voter id. Absentee voting must be for military or people out of the country only. If you can not make plans for one weekend every four years then you do not need to vote.”
So if I got stuck in another city for two weeks like I did right after 9/11, that’s just too bad for me, huh?
You had 3 years and 11 months to make sure you were home for the weekend to vote so yes to bad for you under these circumstances. BTW: Under your example, you could get on a bus or rent a car and be in Georgia in 12 hours.
Get Real
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
ad, yes I completed an entire identity theft on line to get my fake absentee ballot..you caught me…..good grief, is that all you got?????
STEVIE RAY
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:18 pm
WTF? Who cares and why on earth would you submit such a missive? I think I flared up my arthritis just scrolling past this useless cut and past job..just damn
Common Sense
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
“Nope. They get to choose WHO they are, and how their votes are allocated…but the general population votes on electors for each candidate”
Sorry, but you are wrong. Each state legislature decides. The fact that all states have chosen generally selected the same method does not make it a right.
They could change if they wanted to. Get your facts straight.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
“We should let dead people vote, and people go from precinct to precinct and vote multiple times”
got proof that that happens in large enough numbers to justify inconveniencing the many millions of honest voters?
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:21 pm
The other half of your brain.
Obama will win, if not can not wait till he sends poor, middle classs whites to die for the war he will start, while his sons take vacation, what a party of idiots.
GT
November 5th, 2012
2:22 pm
The other half of your brain I will give you even a better list that support Georgia football, but that doesn’t mean their politics is any good.
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:22 pm
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:16 pm
Tealiban Party
Those country know Obama is a leader and will not bully the world, how did that bully work out with the last administration? 3500 Americans dead 911, 4,0000 American soldiers dead
It worked out just about as good as Kennedy with over 58,000 American troops dead in Vietnam.
Do people like you really get to vote?
Donovan
November 5th, 2012
2:22 pm
Doing your part as an eleventh hour DNC surrogate? Please, is that all you’ve got?
You people own the franchise on election shenanigans. Have you all forgotten the Black Panthers outside the polling place? How about the DOJ trying to sue states from cleaning up the voter registration rolls? Ever hear of A.C.O.R.N.? What about your union thugs throwing nails in the parking lot of a Tea Party rally? Slashing tires on GOP vans in Wisconsin? SEIU thugs threatening Las Vegas casino workers to get Harry Reid elected.
This is a Jay Bookman appeal to rally the pathetic troops for Obama. Nice try, liberals.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
November 5th, 2012
2:23 pm
If Obama wins, where do you go to get your 40 acres and a mule?
bookman parrot
November 5th, 2012
2:23 pm
this crap of GOP wanting to go back to the 1950s is a bunch a lib baloney. but it is scaring the simpletons to vote for BHO.
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
Vote for more American exceptionalism like this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/03/curiosity-self-portrait-photo_n_2066944.html
We built that robot.
Four more years!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
TOHOYB — “We, the undersigned, proudly support Governor Mitt Romney as our nation’s next
President and Commander-in-Chief.”
As I’ve asked on several of the last few threads, how many of those flag officers are employed by, executives of or principals in defense companies or contractors?
Follow the money.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
“A sample of public opinion in 21 countries for the BBC published two weeks ago found that if the planet was a giant electoral college, U.S. President Barack Obama would win an unprecedented landslide on Tuesday. Thumping majorities in many countries, Canada included, supported Obama’s re-election”.
The foreignors would vote for Obama for exactly the same reason that Democrats in this country will. One they have no idea what he stands for or the think he will destroy the United States. Two, he is the only name they have heard of. Three, they are polically immature useful idiots. Four, they are merely expressing something they have heard thinking it makes them sound intelligent.
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:25 pm
I believe that Jay prays every night for Romney to win, that way he has job security for the next 4 years. That way he will have someone degrade.
DannyX
November 5th, 2012
2:25 pm
“So you slept through the weekend, huh?”
JHM, I think that when Jack says “all the latest polls” he means “all of the Rasmussen polls”.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:27 pm
“Get your facts straight”
We still vote for the electors. Get YOUR facts straight.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:27 pm
Alas, there is no Constitutional right to vote for POTUS.
Alas, the Constitution doesn’t give rights to do anything. The Constitution protects rights that are considered granted by our Creator. Big, big difference there. The Constitution actually leaves voting legislation and such to the States. As a result of doing that, there have been protections enshrined in the Constitution to keep the states from stomping on the rights that citizens have.
gm
November 5th, 2012
2:28 pm
The other half of your brain.
It worked out just about as good as Kennedy with over 58,000 American troops dead in Vietnam.
Kennedy died in 63, how could he be responsibe?, it was Nixon you idiot, this is you right wing nut jobs problem you try to change history,and you wonder why Georgia is never a factor, gee
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:28 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:24 pm
TOHOYB — “We, the undersigned, proudly support Governor Mitt Romney as our nation’s next
President and Commander-in-Chief.”
As I’ve asked on several of the last few threads, how many of those flag officers are employed by, executives of or principals in defense companies or contractors?
Follow the money.
Joe, One thing for sure, Repubs & Dems all levae office Millionaires. Take a look at how many Millions that Obama is worth today and what he was worth when he took office, there’s a prime example.
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
The polls show a President Obama victory.
Lying, cheating and stealing are sins.
You lose sinners.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
“Have you all forgotten the Black Panthers outside the polling place?”
You can’t forget what never happened.
southpaw
November 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
What makes people-
Interesting read. I particularly liked this part later in the article:
Back in the United States the culture war was going strong, but I had lost my righteous passion. I could never have empathized with the Christian Right directly, but once I had stood outside of my home morality, once I had tried on the moral lenses of my Indian friends and interview subjects, I was able to think about conservative ideas with a newfound clinical detachment. They want more prayer and spanking in schools, and less sex education and access to abortion? I didn’t think those steps would reduce AIDS and teen pregnancy, but I could see why the religious right wanted to “thicken up” the moral climate of schools and discourage the view that children should be as free as possible to act on their desires. Conservatives think that welfare programs and feminism increase rates of single motherhood and weaken the traditional social structures that compel men to support their own children? Hmm, that may be true, even if there are also many good effects of liberating women from dependence on men. I had escaped from my prior partisan mindset (reject first, ask rhetorical questions later), and began to think about liberal and conservative policies as manifestations of deeply conflicting but equally heartfelt visions of the good society.
Junior Samples
November 5th, 2012
2:30 pm
May be time to bring in ACORN and the black panthers to monitor elections like in 2008.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:31 pm
Mighty Righty @ 2:03
Democrats are famous for paying people to vote and to commit registration fraud. The examples of ACORN are well known and numerous.
When are you going to start raising hell about Republicans, Strategic Allied Consulting, and/or Nathan Sproul? Until you address that, all your whining is for naught as it expressly shows you don’t truly give a rats ass about fraud. You’re nothing more than a partisaned whiner.
DannyX
November 5th, 2012
2:32 pm
“I believe that Jay prays every night for Romney to win, that way he has job security for the next 4 years. That way he will have someone degrade.”
I think the other half of your brain is crazy! There will always be tons of Republicans to mock, no matter who wins. Remember the parade of crazy the Republicans trotted out during primary season? How about the current batch of Republican Senators. Right here at home we have Gov Deal, and the rest of the Georgia Republican circus.
Jay has plenty of job security as long as there are Republicans.
SBinf
November 5th, 2012
2:32 pm
“you need to read up on the Constitution, there is nothing in it about “the right to vote”. There are many clauses and amendments detailing ways people can’t be denied the ability to vote, but nothing about voting as a “right”.”
Detailing how you can’t be denied the ability to vote means it’s a right. If the action can not be denied to you by the government, it is a right by its very definition.
And of course….there’s that thing called the Voting RIGHTS Act of 1965.
jewcowboy
November 5th, 2012
2:33 pm
The other half of your brain….doesn’t realize what constitutes spam.
Jefferson
November 5th, 2012
2:33 pm
Pips some of you are.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
2:34 pm
If there is one FUC*ING moron on here it’s you Sport!
Red card or yellow, sport?
HDB
November 5th, 2012
2:34 pm
ATL Tiger
November 5th, 2012
1:51 pm
“joe, I can buy a ticket from an airline on the internet. I guess we should allow internet voting.”
try getting on the plane without an id”
It CAN be done!! ….from USA Today:
Traveling Without ID
If your ID is lost or stolen, traveling is possible but can be extremely difficult. According to the TSA, airline passengers traveling without proper identification will be required to provide the TSA officers at the checkpoints with identity-verifying information. This process will add additional time to the screening process. If the passenger’s identity cannot be verified through this process, passengers will not be allowed to board the aircraft.
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/identification-required-airline-travel-13294.html
….so the airline argument doesn’t hold true…….
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:34 pm
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
The polls show a President Obama victory.
Lying, cheating and stealing are sins.
You lose sinners.
Getaclue, How do you know who is cheating, lying or sinning, you sure as hell aren’t God.
Aquagirl
November 5th, 2012
2:35 pm
WTF? Who cares and why on earth would you submit such a missive?
There’s an odd slobbering quality to some armchair generals. They can pull up that list and wave it around but can’t tell you jack crap about the local VA that serves their sainted heroes.
Using the military as your sockpuppet is gross.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
2:36 pm
Melt down.
jewcowboy
November 5th, 2012
2:36 pm
“so the airline argument doesn’t hold true”
And, yet again, airline travel is not a Constitutionally guaranteed right.
Jack
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
For gm’s edification, klan membership consisted solely of Democrats and segregationists were all Democrats as well.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
td — “You had 3 years and 11 months to make sure you were home for the weekend”
You have pretty clearly never had to travel for work; I did for many years. That means that I was on planes EVERY week, td. San Francisco one week, Dallas the next week, Washington the week after that and then Chicago. It’s a lot more difficult than you seem to think it is, and you’ve clearly never had the phone wake you from a sound sleep, telling you that you have a lunch meeting scheduled in Boston and you’d better be there one way or another. The planning that you think is so easy is only easy for you because your life is a lot less complicated and busy than other peoples’. Not everyone has the luxury of being able to plan things that far ahead.
“to vote so yes to bad for you under these circumstances.”
Then screw you and screw your plan. It figures that you’re a conservative; you’re only too eager to screw someone else out of their vote.
“BTW: Under your example, you could get on a bus or rent a car and be in Georgia in 12 hours.”
BTW: you’re high. If you weren’t in New York or Washington on 9/11, then you have no idea how incredibly difficult it was to find transport home that day and the remainder of that week. Amtrak, Greyhound, Trailways and every bus company in the region were all overbooked. Rental car agencies were overwhelmed and had no cars or trucks to rent; I personally know people who carpooled *hundreds* of miles to get home — to DIFFERENT STATES — immediately after 9/11. I’ve even heard of people who rented Ryder trucks to get home.
And when planes DID start flying again, it was nearly impossible to get rebooked; it was 2+ weeks before the airlines got their booking and routings straightened out. If you didn’t already *have* a seat on a given flight in the first few days after flights resumed, you had to fight with several thousand other people who wanted the same seat you were after.
One size doesn’t fit all, td. And shame on you for trying to make it so.
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
Unhinged.
President Obama wins Ohio by 3.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
Stevie Ray: WTF? Who cares and why on earth would you submit such a missive?
I think he’s trying to show that Romney has a lock on the Military and Intelligence Industrial Complexes. At least, that’s what it seems like.
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:38 pm
jewcowboy
November 5th, 2012
2:33 pm
The other half of your brain….doesn’t realize what constitutes spam.
Doesn’t that come in a can, sorry for the pun.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 5th, 2012
2:38 pm
“If the neo-con progressives on the right have to resort to voter suppression to keep the neo-con progressives of the left from voting for their respective war criminal…….then you shall know that your society is surely doomed.”
Thomas Heyward jr 2009
RLJ
November 5th, 2012
2:38 pm
A couple of weeks ago, Jay did a column on how Republicans would react and avoid the facts in President Obama is re-elected. This column gives an idea of how Democrats will avoid what a loss says about their ideas. This will be added to the mantra that apparently only ignoramuses who watch Fox News would vote against the President, so the majority must be ignorant and less intelligent. Honestly, I don’t know who will win but I have no doubt the losing party will spin it well.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
2:38 pm
For gm’s edification, klan membership consisted solely of
Democratsconservatives and segregationists were allDemocratsconservatives as well.Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:39 pm
JHM: One size doesn’t fit all, td. And shame on you for trying to make it so.
Simple minds are only capable of simple thinking and logic.
USMC
November 5th, 2012
2:39 pm
DNC believes it benefits by making voting easy for Illegal Aliens and Dead People.
Matti
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
Why exactly am I supposed to give a rat’s fuzzy what a bunch of government nip suckling retired generals and admirals think?
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
Stevie Ray: WTF? Who cares and why on earth would you submit such a missive?
I think he’s trying to show that Romney has a lock on the Military and Intelligence Industrial Complexes. At least, that’s what it seems like.
I wish I had the same crystal ball that you do, it’s amazing that you don’t know 1 of those people and yet you know where they work.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
DannyX — “JHM, I think that when Jack says “all the latest polls” he means “all of the Rasmussen polls”.
Razzie snapped back several points late on Friday. There was TONS of raging about it in the conservative blogosphere over the weekend.
One Brave American on Free Republic said that he wanted to drag Governor Christie and Mr. Rasmussen behind his boat while he ladled chum over the side to attract sharks.
Madge From Accounting
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
Hi folks do you know in the constitution of Usa there is no federal are that you are made to vote//Not in any law..Just have right vote at age 18 in all states….Look it up folks now Jay not cause Neal Boortz use be on AJC till they fired off…Further more if turn out is huge rommey will win if other well for more years of lettin Muslims take over Usa!
Aren’t you guys sick and tired of repeating that same………………lie / falshooded misstatement? The STATE is the one who authorized you your right to vote and the FEDS upheld that right. The “right to vote” is taken from our original “founding document” t the Articles Of Confederation.
In 1787 the United States had reached an economic and diplomatic crisis. That summer a Constitutional Convention was called to amend the Articles of Confederation. Among the most important issues to be resolved were electing representatives, senators, and the president.
Direct election of the president and vice president sparked contentious debate. The convention settled on the Electoral College – delegates elected by the state legislatures who would reflect the popular vote in their state, a device which would help non-regional candidates. The Constitution also gave Congress the authority to make or alter federal electoral regulations.
Eligibility to vote for representatives would be based on each state’s rules for voting on the state legislature’s lower house. For example, the 1777 New York State Constitution required that a man have considerable wealth to be able to vote for the state Assembly – he had to pay taxes as well as own property worth at least 20 pounds or pay an annual rent of 2 pounds. Ten of the original 13 states had property and/or tax requirements when the U.S. Constitution came into effect.
The states NEED your votes — without your votes they will have NO representation in Congress/Senate and not ONE electoral vote.
So YES you do have a “right to vote” that, even though it is not spelled out explicitly in the Constitution verbatim, is nonetheless upheld by our Amendments:
The Fifteenth Amendment, adopted in 1870, prevented states and the federal government from restricting suffrage based on “race, color, or previous condition of servitude [i.e., slavery].”
the Nineteenth Amendment made women’s suffrage the law of the land.
In 1924 that Congress would pass the Indian Citizenship Act granting all Native Americans, on or off the reservation, citizenship and the possibility of suffrage. In 1956 Utah was the last state to give Native Americans the vote.
1926 would California’s suffrage provision, allowing “no native of China” to vote be overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court. The Chinese Exclusion Act would remain in effect until 1943, when the United States lifted the immigration ban.
Civil rights Act of 196 and Voting Rights Act of 1965
the Jones Act in 1917 would the United States allow Puerto Ricans to elect their own bicameral legislature.
The Jones Act also made all Puerto Ricans citizens of the United States, allowing them to migrate to the mainland when other immigrant groups found the doors barred by the Immigration Act of 1924.
HDB
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:31 pm
Do you remember in 1968 that Kevin Phillips, a Nixon spokesman and designer of the “Southern Strategy” publically came out and said “…black people have no place in the Republican Party.”??
The idea that Democrats are the trailblazers in voter suppression is nuts!! People fail to realize that the Southern Strategy’s main focus was to suppress the minority vote….and this was designed and amplified!!
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
2:42 pm
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:29 pm
“Have you all forgotten the Black Panthers outside the polling place?”
“You can’t forget what never happened”.
Are you that dense? Can’t be that stupid and still function. But here is proof: There are plenty more.
New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case
The New Black Panther Party voter intimidation case, sometimes known simply as the Black Panther Case, is a political controversy in the United States concerning an incident that occurred during the 2008 election for president in the United States. The New Black Panther Party and two of its members, Minister King Samir Shabazz and Jerry Jackson, were charged with voter intimidation for their conduct outside a polling station in Philadelphia. The Department of Justice later narrowed the charges against Minister King Shabazz and dismissed the charges against the New Black Panther Party and Jerry Jackson. The decision to dismiss the charges has led to accusations that the Department of Justice under the Obama administration is biased against white victims and unwilling to prosecute minorities for civil rights violations. These charges have been most notably made by J. Christian Adams, who in May 2010 resigned his post in the Department of Justice in protest over the Obama Administration’s perceived mishandling of the case, and by his former supervisor Christopher Coates.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:42 pm
Brosephus — “The Constitution protects rights that are considered granted by our Creator.”
Actually, the Constitution makes it clear that We The People assert our *own* rights and that the Constitution lays out the limits for the powers that We permit Our government to use in Our name.
The Declaration speaks of granted rights, but the Constitution itself doesn’t.
The other half of your brain.
November 5th, 2012
2:42 pm
Matti
November 5th, 2012
2:40 pm
Why exactly am I supposed to give a rat’s fuzzy what a bunch of government nip suckling retired generals and admirals think?
Probably because they don’t like the way our country is being run. If you ever served your country you may feel different.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
November 5th, 2012
2:43 pm
VOTER FRAUD HAPPENS
so does IDENTITY THEFT
here is an example of VOTER FRAUD that CANT BE DETECTED
SNOWBIRDS are elderly people who live up NORTH but come down to Florida between Jan and Apr………….. they have HOUSES in FL…………………….. all they have to do is ask for an ABSENTEE ballot from FL and vote then also go to the polls in the state in which they live…NEITHER STATE WILL CHECK WITH THE OTHER TO SEE IF THEY VOTED TWICE
Madge From Accounting
November 5th, 2012
2:44 pm
We, the undersigned, proudly support
Governor Mitt Romney
These are all old retired guys who are no longer in the field. What do the troops who are in the field today say? Any word on them?
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
2:45 pm
Fake conservatives and randian rubes, your candidate stinks.
On ice.
To high heaven.
He is unfit to lead.
Better luck in 2016…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E8S1H3y9KE&feature=player_embedded
td
November 5th, 2012
2:46 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:37 pm
Considering that your first post said you was stuck for two weeks then you would not have been able to early vote in GA this year as well.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:46 pm
“Detailing how you can’t be denied the ability to vote means it’s a right”
What the Constution doesn’t say is anything about the ability to vote. It specifically says “The RIGHT to vote…”
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:47 pm
Brosephus — “Simple minds are only capable of simple thinking and logic.”
I knew you’d pick up on that.
Were you working in a similar job as your current one on 9/11?
I had just started a new consulting gig in the Washington area; my employer actually called me to make sure I wasn’t going to quit because of 9/11 (I didn’t).
td
November 5th, 2012
2:49 pm
UNCLE SAMANTHA
November 5th, 2012
2:43 pm
VOTER FRAUD HAPPENS
so does IDENTITY THEFT
here is an example of VOTER FRAUD that CANT BE DETECTED
SNOWBIRDS are elderly people who live up NORTH but come down to Florida between Jan and Apr………….. they have HOUSES in FL…………………….. all they have to do is ask for an ABSENTEE ballot from FL and vote then also go to the polls in the state in which they live…NEITHER STATE WILL CHECK WITH THE OTHER TO SEE IF THEY VOTED TWICE
You are absolutely right. I have a house in GA. and a condo in FL and have no problem getting an absentee from FL and vote in person in GA.
Liberal Nightmare
November 5th, 2012
2:49 pm
Ruh Roh, just heard from my buddies up in Cleveland/Akron at the U of Akron and they are telling me their local polls which are evenly weighted are showing Romney up by 5 points with a margin of 2.5. For those in the dark, southern Ohio is red, only the north has any hopes in carrying the state for the Demographicrats. For the geographically challenged, Akron to Cleveland is blue Ohio and it ain’t looking good for the O-dumber. Surprisingly, the number of undecideds in the polls have dropped to below 2%. You’re toast libs. You won’t see this in the media, but stay tuned for Tuesday night. I’ll be around to rub it in….. assuming I am not a riot victim. Note to self – avoid SW Atlanta Wednesday.
Jay
November 5th, 2012
2:50 pm
Half A Brain, if you resort to namecalling again, you will be banned.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:50 pm
I wish I had the same crystal ball that you do, it’s amazing that you don’t know 1 of those people and yet you know where they work.
You don’t need a crystal ball to figure that out. Who founded Blackwater, XE, or whatever their name is now?? Ex-military. When generals retire, where do they go to work? They end up on the payroll of defense contractors as lobbyists or advisors.
If you don’t believe me, here’s proof from a conservative source.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/11/04/retired-generals-and-admirals-overwhelmingly-support-romney/
An article on the far-left website Truth-out.org offers two alternative explanations for Romney’s overwhelming support from retired generals and admirals, both of which call into question the character of the endorsers.
“I cannot read the minds of these top officers but, based on years of revolving door practices and other types of abuses, maybe many of these officers were motivated by the fact that they had lucrative post-retirement jobs with defense contractors who promise to become even more flush with money if a budget of this size passes. The lure of money for the revolving door might have clouded their judgment,” the article reads.
Nowhere beyond that point does the author attempt to disprove that criticism. In fact, the author completely ignores that because it’s a widely known issue. Just as government workers in national security have begun to flock to the Intelligence Industrial Complex upon retirement from the public sector.
RLJ
November 5th, 2012
2:50 pm
Personally, I agree with GT. Romney wins the popular vote and Obama wins the electoral vote. The Republicans will be fit to be tied and the Democrats will somehow spin it to be a mandate.
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:51 pm
lib,
Funny.
You lose Ohio by 3.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:51 pm
“all they have to do is ask for an ABSENTEE ballot from FL and vote then also go to the polls in the state in which they live”
Yep, that’s right. And Voter ID will do NOTHING to correct that. It’s the absentee ballot system that needs reforming, not in-person voting.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:51 pm
td — “Considering that your first post said you was stuck for two weeks then you would not have been able to early vote in GA this year as well.”
Which is exactly why I voted absentee while I was a consultant. And FWIW, at that time, Georgia didn’t send you an absentee ballot if there was a runoff. You either voted in person or you were out of luck.
They probably have a file on me in the Georgia Secretary of State’s office with the angry letters I sent each time I couldn’t get a ballot for runoffs.
Matti
November 5th, 2012
2:52 pm
Probably because they don’t like the way our country is being run.
So? Why do I care? My tax dollars support their lifestyles, their life-long government health care and pensions, and the nice income they earn from their defense contractor stocks and “consulting” jobs. They don’t support me, and to the best of my recollection, those generals and admirals have never personally defended or protected ME from anything. That they’re still alive only indicates that they sent lesser officers and enlisted men to die for their defense stocks, so why am I still supporting those leeches? That they endorse Rmoney only tells me they are not — and never were — my defenders.
Madge From Accounting
November 5th, 2012
2:53 pm
Are you that dense? Can’t be that stupid and still function. But here is proof: There are plenty more
First off Mighty Whitey — don’t call DogGone dense; especially since she’s NOT dense. that makes you look really weak, pathetic and needy when you do that.
Secondly she’s more or less right — the people involved WERE prosecuted; however, this is a salient point, NONE of the people at the polling place felt threatened. NONE.
the fact that the administration DID pursue a successful prosecution against Shabazz or that it was the *Bush* administration that chose not to press charges. And the especially interesting thing is that the Bush administration refused to press similar charges against the Minute Men in Arizona:
DOJ did not pursue allegations that Minutemen intimidated Hispanic voters with a gun in 2006. Perez testified that in 2006, the Justice Department “declined to bring any action for alleged voter intimidation” “when three well-known anti-immigrant advocates affiliated with the Minutemen, one of whom was carrying a gun, allegedly intimidated Latino voters at a polling place by approaching several persons, filming them, and advocating and printing voting materials in Spanish.” [U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, 5/14/10]
Anti-immigrant activist in 2006 case reportedly had “9mm Glock strapped to his side” at polling place. A November 8, 2006, Austin American-Statesman article reported (from the Nexis database): “In Arizona, Roy Warden, an anti-immigration activist with the Minutemen, and a handful of supporters staked out a Tucson precinct and questioned Hispanic voters at the polls to determine whether they spoke English.” The article continued:
Armed with a 9mm Glock automatic strapped to his side, Warden said he planned to photograph Hispanic voters entering polls in an effort to identify illegal immigrants and felons.
I believe what this all boils down to is a black man with a stick is frightening. Not pursuing charges against black men with sticks is showing racial bias. A white man with a gun, on the other hand, is doing the government a *favor*, see. Helping to monitor and control the situation. Why on earth would one pursue charges against this white man?
I understand it–why don’t you?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 5th, 2012
2:53 pm
YELLOW CARD!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:53 pm
L. Nightmare — “Ruh Roh, just heard from my buddies up in Cleveland/Akron at the U of Akron and they are telling me their local polls which are evenly weighted are showing Romney up by 5 points with a margin of 2.5.”
Evenly weighted? Pfffffft. You’re giving away your ignorance of polling and statistics.
If you’d left that part out, I might have worried. As it is, you’ve actually *encouraged* me.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:54 pm
HDB @ 2:40
You’ll never get people to admit to that though.
—————
JHM
The Constitution and Declaration go hand in hand when it comes to defining rights. The Declaration established where our rights come from and the idea that we get to assert them as individuals. The Constitution, as you stated, was written to limit government intrusion upon those inherent rights. The rights protected in the Constitution are the same rights from the Declaration, and they both come from the same place.
RB from Gwinnett
November 5th, 2012
2:54 pm
Doggie, “got proof that that happens in large enough numbers to justify inconveniencing the many millions of honest voters?”
Got any proof “millions of honest voters” are being inconvenienced? Even the left wing propoganda mouthpiece AJC doesn’t have any evidence of all these millions of voters who were turned away at the last election for lack of an ID. Where are they?
And why are only D’s unable to get a damn ID?
getalife
November 5th, 2012
2:54 pm
“Democrats will somehow spin it to be a mandate.”
Just another thumpin.
Try working with him.
Jealous Often?
November 5th, 2012
2:54 pm
The only benefit that I can see in a Romney election is that the rednecks I’m surrounded by down here in Georgia will finally turn their frowny faces upside down.
Until Romney utterly destroys us, of course,at which time the frowny faces will return with a long finger pointed at the Democrats.
WTF
November 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
Jealous Often? Your too funny. Dumb as an ox but funny.
Liberal Nightmare
November 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
“These are all old retired guys who are no longer in the field. What do the troops who are in the field today say? Any word on them?”
Overwhelming support for Romney: http://militarytimes.com/projects/polls/2012/results/politics/
They also overwhelmingly supported Bush in 2000 and 2004. There’s a certain demographic that votes democrat no matter who is running, if you subtract that demographic out, the numbers are oven more overwhelming. Guess the military is a bunch of ignorant Fox News watchers according to this blog.
They BOTH suck
November 5th, 2012
2:56 pm
Bro
While not 100% by any means, it is a case of follow the money…….
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:57 pm
Brosephus — “The Constitution and Declaration go hand in hand when it comes to defining rights. The Declaration established where our rights come from and the idea that we get to assert them as individuals. The Constitution, as you stated, was written to limit government intrusion upon those inherent rights. The rights protected in the Constitution are the same rights from the Declaration, and they both come from the same place.”
FWIW, the Constitution is the basis of law in our country, whereas the Declaration carries no such weight. At least, that’s what my First Amendment and Con Law profs told us.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
2:57 pm
JHM: Were you working in a similar job as your current one on 9/11?
At that time, I was straight private sector and climing the success ladder. I had finished my first year in management, and I actually had to travel in Oct 11 for traning for a promotion that I got that same September. Post 9/11, I decided to switch gears and go public to do something for country. My knee kept me out of the military, so I went the DHS route.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:58 pm
Madge, thanks…but: “Secondly she’s more or less right — the people involved WERE prosecuted; however, this is a salient point, NONE of the people at the polling place felt threatened. NONE”
That was not my point. My point was that the Black Panthers were NOT INVOLVED in that episode. It was a tiny splinter group that calls themselves “The New Black Panthers” and they have NOTHING to do with the Black Panthers and have been repudiated by that larger group.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
November 5th, 2012
2:58 pm
DOGGONE
please tell me your name and bank!
how would you like it if your bank let me walk in-person to the bank and withdraw money from your account WITHOUT id?
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
2:59 pm
“Got any proof “millions of honest voters” are being inconvenienced?”
In other words: you got no proof.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 5th, 2012
2:59 pm
L. Nightmare — “Guess the military is a bunch of ignorant Fox News watchers according to this blog.”
Um, there’s a big difference in a passel of retired flag officers and a bunch of junior and mid-grade enlisted soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that Generals and Admirals know what their men and women think and feel.
I’m a disabled veteran and I approve this message.
Misty Fyed
November 5th, 2012
3:00 pm
Or Maybe Republicans simply want something as important as voting limited to those legally entitled to do so. Democrats simply want free access to voter fraud.