Peggy’s story: The cruel cynicism of the voter ID crusade
Hans von Spakovsky, a former Fulton County Republican party official and now a star of the right’s nationwide effort to suppress voting through strict voter ID protocols, continues to pretend that in-person voting fraud constitutes a major threat to American democracy.
Yet when challenged to present evidence of such a threat, as he was in a recent article in The New Yorker, he continues to fail.
For example, in responding to the New Yorker article, von Spakovsky listed a series of recent alleged voting fraud cases that to his mind justified the expense, bureaucracy and obstacles to voting created by voter ID laws. They were:
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– the Democratic nominee for Maryland’s first congressional district removed from the ballot after it was discovered that she had registered and voted in both Maryland and Florida in the 2006 and 2008 elections;
– an Arkansas legislator resigning after pleading guilty (with three other defendants) to committing voter fraud;
– a Canadian couple and a Mexican citizen arrested for illegally registering and voting in Iowa;
– a New Jersey resident convicted on multiple counts of voter fraud;
– three Indiana residents (including a former Democratic mayoral candidate) indicted for voter fraud;
– three Ohioans indicted for double voting;
– a Mexican drug dealer’s guilty plea for voting illegally in the 2008 presidential election;
– Florida’s discovery of nearly 200 non-citizens illegally registered to vote, and
– a city-council race in Vernon, Calif., overturned owing to voter fraud.
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That’s the best he could do?
Once again, none of the examples could have been prevented through voter ID. Requiring a drivers license to vote, for example, does nothing to prevent non-citizens from voting because citizenship is not noted on the license.
Also note that none of the examples cited by von Spakovsky involved an organized effort to alter an election through fraudulent in-person voting. Several involved absentee balloting, the easiest and most popular way to abuse the electoral process. However, it is noteworthy that the Republican Party has in general tried to expand absentee voting without tightening oversight because that’s the means that many of its own voters tend to prefer.
Peggy Cobb
Which brings us to the story of 97-year-old Peggy Cobb of Sandy Springs, as related in an email from her son Bill:
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“I now have a crystal clear, visceral understanding of why some politicians think voter ID laws are so important. The suppressive power of this law to deter people from voting is far greater than I realized. Meet my mother.
She is 97, in good health and with virtually all her marbles (bad hearing loss, though), living an active, independent life in Sandy Springs. She moved here four years ago or so. Had one knee replaced a couple years ago.
Peggy has voted in every presidential election since she was eligible, and most if not all others, too. She pays attention to this stuff more than a lot of people I know. She insists, often with me chafing, on hearing the other side.
She has a Fulton County voter registration card and has voted in every election when she’s been here. Her expired Indiana driver’s license used to be enough ID at the polling booth. No more.
But all she had to do was go to a driver’s services office, show the necessary documents, and get her Georgia Voter ID. Some waiting. No fees. Great deal.
So Peggy gathered up her voter registration card, some utility bills, bank statements, rent receipts and tax returns and went to Driver Services. They said “Great, you have everything you need. Except a birth certificate.”
She went back home and eventually figured out how to order a birth certificate from Minnesota, where she was born and married. Six weeks later, it arrived. Peggy returned to Drivers Services very enthusiastic, since the election was only a couple weeks off. They said “Great, you have everything you need, except the last name on your birth certificate isn’t the same as on all these other documents.”
Well of course not, she got married in 1943. What else could that middle initial “V” stand for except her maiden name, Vanstrom?
No Georgia voter ID card for Peggy without a marriage certificate.
I rarely ever see my mother near tears, but I did then. Some combination of rage and foreboding maybe. Luckily, the Minnesota county that has her marriage certificate is very user friendly. They even do same day turn-around and overnight delivery, if you pay for it. Time was short. $53. But UPS screwed up and misdelivered it, so Minnesota sent another one (no charge) to my house. My wife and I made sure one of us was home all day to sign for it.
Yesterday, back to Drivers Services. A friend drove her. They said, “Great, you have everything you need, except your Social Security number doesn’t match our system. Sorry, no exceptions.”
The friend, who had only bargained for lunch really, drove Peggy home to search for more papers with her Social Security number on it, then drove her to a Social Security office in Marietta. The agent could find nothing amiss, and gave her some papers.
Drivers Services finally relented and gave Peggy a Georgia voter ID yesterday, 5 days before the election. What would she have done without that determined friend?
You probably can’t truly appreciate the physical and emotion toll this ordeal has taken on Peggy. She definitely can’t believe it.
“Why is Georgia doing this to me! Do they want me not to be here? I thought government was supposed to make voting as simple as possible. I don’t understand it!”
I explained the reason for Georgia’s anti-fraud requirements with a joke I heard a long time ago. It begins with a guy standing around constantly snapping his fingers.
“Why are you doing that?” someone asked.
“I’m keeping the elephants away.”
“What? There’s never been an elephant within a thousand miles of here!”
“See, it’s working.”
The reality, of course, is much more mean-spirited and pernicious. Peggy got the joke right away. But she’s still not happy. It’s not funny. At all.
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No, Peggy’s not happy. In a later message, she herself spoke of her frustration with what she calls “Beautiful Georgia, my adopted state as I finish life’s journey.” Voting absentee, she says, “seemed sensible.” But on the other hand, she wanted to once again feel the excitement of voting in person, on Election Day.
“This year 2012 held new significance … my last year ever to vote in a presidential election. I wanted to feel part of this great privilege, wanted to again walk out of my precinct tapping my Georgia Peach voter sticker. Even if the day were dark, gloomy and cold, the sun would be shining.”
But “government intrusion stripped me of my established legal right to vote in 2012 unless I complied with new restriction laws…. I will vote in person on Nov. 6 but my spirit is broken. Trust in the government of my adopted state is shattered, a cruel joke.”
– Jay Bookman
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RF
November 4th, 2012
11:34 am
“Yet Nathan Sproul hardly seems to have missed a beat. Just as the scandal hit the national mainstream media with a report by Michael Isikoff at NBC, similar ads were being posted in other states, namely Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia, New York and New Jersey, for almost identical jobs with another enitity, Issue Advocacy Partners. Some of the listings are connected directly to Sproul’s Lincoln Strategy Group. Others use Sproul’s Tempe, AZ, business address for contact information”
Geez, one guy can create all that??? And we thought taking down ACORN was going to solve the voter fraud problem. Maybe we need to get someone in a pimp suit to go make an authoritative video for us. Where’s that O’Keefe kid these days?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
11:34 am
…how can you suggest that blacks and minorities feeling more connected to BO regardless of his putrid track record representing them, has anything to do with who is standing in front of me at the grocery store?
Wow, you are clueless.
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:34 am
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
November 4th, 2012
11:08 am
What voting materials do you need Fred?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The signs, Express poll machines, voting certificatres, pens, sticker that say I voted, DRE (voting) cards, provisional ballots and provisional ballot station……. all the stuff I need to set up the polling place tomorrow for the election Monday. The County delivers the actual machines.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 4th, 2012
11:35 am
“Democrats got caught red-handed with A.C.O.R.N ”
Classic example of the way right wing propaganda goes straight from fever swamp to talking point without ever having to have the slightest grounding in fact.
RF
November 4th, 2012
11:36 am
josef: English mostly, and I work with struggling readers when we have enough to make a class, and some credit recovery for desperate seniors trying to graduate. I really like working with the struggling kids.
Midori
November 4th, 2012
11:37 am
hi Josef,
today is my 57th birthday. I was going to go for a walk, but I have tons of housework to do.
sounds glamorous, huh?
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RF
November 4th, 2012
11:38 am
“Classic example of the way right wing propaganda goes straight from fever swamp to talking point without ever having to have the slightest grounding in fact”
They don’t need facts. The hive mind just KNOWS….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 4th, 2012
11:38 am
MIDORI
I will comment and surprise, support your comment vis a vis your and Kamchaks mutual admiration society…GOP are the most guilty of voter suppression since the 1950’s and likely before…that fact is impossible for any GOP to dispute..
Obama told us Washington can’t be changed from the inside (despite his famous words in 2008..”the days of lobbyist controlling the DC agenda are over”..what a bunch of crap), I guess the DEMS need to change the voting inequities from the outside..
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:39 am
LOL I just noticed that this stupid blog didn’t auto reset the time for daylight savings……..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:39 am
ABC News: “US Air Force Struggles With Aging Fleet”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-air-force-struggles-aging-fleet-17635726
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 4th, 2012
11:40 am
KAMCHAK
Care to enlighten me on the clues I appear to be incapable of identifying…it’s better to stick to the points …of course you preferred method is to name call…which tells all that you concede..
Go find your game chief..
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:40 am
MIDORI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy 57. I had my birthday Monday. Wife got me Kevin Gillespie’s new cook book and my daughter gave me a kiss lol.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
11:41 am
Care to enlighten me on the clues I appear to be incapable of identifying…
No.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:41 am
NBC News: “NYC crime falls by one third in wake of superstorm Sandy”
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/04/14915710-nyc-crime-falls-by-one-third-in-wake-of-superstorm-sandy?lite
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
11:41 am
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIDORI!
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:43 am
Hey Kam. Let’s go have a beer for Midori’s birthday lol. Any excuse is a GOOD excuse for a beer………
Welcome to the Occupation
November 4th, 2012
11:44 am
RF: “They don’t need facts. The hive mind just KNOWS….”
Exactly. Textbook definition of a paranoid: one who never doubts, but only KNOWS.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
11:44 am
In a liberal view, it seems that anyone who shows up at the polls should be able to vote, whether he is entitled to vote or not.
In a conservative view, they want people to show an ID to vote, but they don’t give a sh*t as to whether the person on the ID is the person that’s actually on the list in the first place.
Easiest remedy to end this farce of “securing the vote” would be to ensure accurate and secure registration and continuous updating of voter registration lists. Remove 3rd parties from being involved with it altogether and make government do it’s damned job.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
11:44 am
Fred
Sounds like a plan. How’s the appliance repair job coming along?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:45 am
USA Today: “USS Enterprise sailing home from final voyage”
“The USS Enterprise is sailing home to Virginia after the final deployment for the world’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.
The Navy says the USS Enterprise is scheduled to return to its home port in Norfolk on Sunday. The ship will be deactivated in December after more than 50 years of service.”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/11/04/uss-enterprise-final-voyage/1680333/
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 4th, 2012
11:46 am
Great read for you LIBS that support the success of HOPE and Change…i guess it really has helped people after all..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/two-journeys-that-began-full-of-hope/2012/11/03/bb3ddebe-253d-11e2-9313-3c7f59038d93_story_2.html
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
11:47 am
African Americans, as a group, are far worse off now than they were when Obama came to power and the gap between whites and blacks in terms of wealth and income has increased under Obama’s tenure. The overall rate of unemployment may be close to where it was when Obama took office, but black unemployment is up 11%.
Anybody with enough common sense to use Google would quickly find that Black American unemployment has historically been twice the national average. Geez… Stupidity and laziness rears it’s head over Russia again…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:47 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns
to the left and Jokers
to the right..here I am… :
Re: Kammie @ 11:41 that means you won ! Good going !
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:48 am
Kam: The guy wasn’t at the bar he usually hangs out at, he had already left. I’m going to hit it up again at 12:30, that’s when he usually stops by there on Sunday’s.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
11:48 am
Spot on about african americans being adversly affected by Obama but still 96% will continue to support him…unemplyment still rising over 14% which is read is worst in 27 years..
And it’s co-signed…
Can any of y’all actually Google this stuff and learn instead of simply repeating what you hear? You wouldn’t sound so out of touch and uninformed if you actually tried.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:49 am
“Anybody with enough common sense to use Google would quickly find that Black American unemployment has historically been twice the national average. Geez… Stupidity and laziness rears it’s head over Russia again…”
And Obama had four years to improve black employment figures but instead made it worse by giving jobs to illegal immigrants.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
11:49 am
P.S.
Keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:52 am
Scout: How long before they christen a new Enterprise have you heard? This one was the 8th Enterprise wasn’t it?
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:53 am
And Obama had four years to improve black employment figures but instead made it worse by giving jobs to illegal immigrants.
Why don’t you write fantasy books? As much as you make sht up on this blog you could at least get paid for it……..
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
11:54 am
And Obama had four years to improve black employment figures but instead made it worse by giving jobs to illegal immigrants.
And when you have to lie to make a point, you never really had a point to make in the first place.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 4th, 2012
11:55 am
Good thing things are better for the 18-24 year olds…projecting only 34% or so will vote this time compared to 0ver 50% voting (largely for the incumbent) in record 2008 turnout…these subtle diddy’s are why DEMS should still be concerned…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-young-voters-arent-feeling-obama-mania-this-time/2012/11/02/e9a97024-1c5a-11e2-9cd5-b55c38388962_story.html?tid=pm_pop
RF
November 4th, 2012
11:55 am
““Anybody with enough common sense to use Google would quickly find that Black American unemployment has historically been twice the national average.”
And presidents from both parties haven’t been able to change that.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
11:55 am
Midori
Happy Birthday!!!!!!!!!
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
11:59 am
This is kind of sad. A sea otter jumps on a boat to escape some killer whales, but her babay didn’t make it. They DON’T show the baby otter being eaten at least…….
http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/39711/sea+otter+jumps+on+a+boat+to+avoid+getting+eaten+by+killer+whales+video/
TaxPayer
November 4th, 2012
11:59 am
When Mitt loses, will Billy reinvoke cult status on Mormonism.
josef
November 4th, 2012
12:01 pm
FRED, et al who like to cook..a brief listing cookbooks.made in Mississippi..
http://jesseyancy.com/
RF
I liked working with those kids, too. My new post this year is out of the classroom, and while I’m enjoying it a lot, I do miss the classroom.
Jm
November 4th, 2012
12:03 pm
National debt accumulated per job created over the last 4 years
$250,000 per job per year
Obama fail
America can do better
josef
November 4th, 2012
12:03 pm
MIDORI
Yeah…happy, happy!
Midori
November 4th, 2012
12:06 pm
thanks for the good wishes, guys.
gotta get to work.
see ya later.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 4th, 2012
12:06 pm
BRO/RF
Of course unemployment is twice as high as you suggest…now based on that BS hope and change crap, try telling the 15% or so out of work that it’s ok, it was the same under Bush…Go for it.
Obama’s great letdown of all minorities and particularly college kids or those otherwise between 18 and 24 living with their parents are better off…I certainly would have thought his rhetoric that he spewed in 2008, he would certainly buck the trend..
He’s done nothing for these folks except PelosiCare…of course the jury is still out as to the outcomes there..
josef
November 4th, 2012
12:08 pm
midori
“…gotta get to work.”
Hunh? I thought you were melanin enhanced…
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
12:08 pm
josef: I left my favorite online Mississippi “cookbook” for jesse,
http://www.deepsouthdish.com/
If you get a chance, peruse it. Mary has some awesome recipe from the MS Gulf Coast. LOl It’s where I got the Shrimp and Grits recipe for.
Fred ™
November 4th, 2012
12:09 pm
Gotta split. I’ll call you Kam as soon as I finish. Set something up with anyone else who wants to as well.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:11 pm
RF
They CAN’T change it either. That change has to come via the private sector.
appleseed
November 4th, 2012
12:11 pm
Mighty the stench you smell,being the same smell Venezuelan Hugo Chavez smelt,when he followed Bush to the podium.Once Romney stops going all over the country,air should be less polluted,smell much better.The cans of food he gave being 4 cans on a turntable appearing as more.Like his cheating notes,some claimed to be a stiff handkerchief.Mighty fraud?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:12 pm
Fred:
According to this there have been six.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
November 4th, 2012
12:13 pm
Ok, help me here guys, both parties please. Obama is re-elected, Dems remain in control of Senate, and Repubs remain in control of House. Nothing changes, it stays the frigging same. House will never allow high-earners to pay more in taxes, both parties never agree on anything. Same old dodo!! Nobody wins! Eventually the middle-class(includes me) will have to pay more for those who’s life is dependent upon govt(Tax-payers).
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:14 pm
“Two-Thirds of New Jobs Go to Legal & Illegal Immigrants”
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/volpe/two-thirds-of-new-jobs-go-to-legal-illegal-immigrants/
“National Suicide: Obama to Screw Over Blacks [and the rest of America] to Illegally Grant 800,000 Illegal Aliens Work Visas”
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/national-suicide-obama-to-screw-over-blacks-and-the-rest-of-america-to-illegally-grant-800000-illegal-aliens-work-visas/
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:15 pm
Of course unemployment is twice as high as you suggest…now based on that BS hope and change crap, try telling the 15% or so out of work that it’s ok, it was the same under Bush…Go for it.
Dude, it has absofreakinlutely nothing to do with “Hope and Change”, “Compassionate Conservatism”, or any other political bullsh*t. It’s simple FACT based upon private sector hiring. You can go back as far as Reagan, and you will see the historical unemployment rate for Black America is twice the national average. You don’t have to tell Blacks that as we already KNOW IT.
There’s this saying that’s been in the Black community since before I was born that says I have to be twice as good, twice as smart, and bust my ass twice as hard to be on equal footing with everyone else. Time and time again, that has been proven to reside somewhat in facts based upon the last hired, first fired M.O. and other stuff that goes on.
Instead of reciting that right wing BS, why don’t you go research something for once? Nobody believes in political Bullsh*t. Blacks simply know that the money pushers behind conservatism really don’t give a Damn about us. That’s why Blacks support the Democratic Party.
Jackie
November 4th, 2012
12:16 pm
Wonder how the Repubs in the US House will handle the request from President Obama for emergency aid for folks in NY, NJ, CT, VA and NC due to historic Sandy?
Will their talking points be fashioned around “we can not afford it?”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:16 pm
“President Obama’s Stand for Illegal Immigrants, Slap In Face For Blacks”
http://newsone.com/2021107/president-obamas-stand-for-illegal-immigrants-a-slap-in-the-face-for-blacks/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:18 pm
“Will black voters grouse over Obama move to aid young illegal immigrants?”
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/President/2012/0618/Will-black-voters-grouse-over-Obama-move-to-aid-young-illegal-immigrants
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:19 pm
“You Wonder Where The Black Jobs Went?”
http://tarpon.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/you-wonder-where-the-black-jobs-went-obama-needs-the-illegals-to-vote/
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:21 pm
“Obama Jobs Program: Help Illegals Compete with Americans for Scarce Jobs”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/15/obama-jobs-program-help-illegals-compete-with-americans-for-scarce-jobs
kayaker 71
November 4th, 2012
12:21 pm
Bozo doesn’t give a damn about the black community. He is not an American black…. he is a Kenyan black. The only thing that he wants from the black community is their vote and their allegiance. Nothing else. He had a chance to change things in this country by attempting to heal the racial divide. He did nothing but make it worse. I wonder, for the life of me, besides his skin color, why anyone black would ever vote for him….. or anyone else for that matter.
Matti
November 4th, 2012
12:21 pm
Scout,
I personally find it too offensive to post, but — since you’re stuck on the subject — please go to youtube and look up “Blacks for Romney.” Short video (1:22), but I think you’ll enjoy it.
You’re welcome.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:21 pm
Bozo doesn’t give a damn about the black community.
You don’t give a damn either. What’s your point?
TaxPayer
November 4th, 2012
12:22 pm
Nine million private sector job losses created by Bush’s Great Recession and Republicans want more of the same. Why stop at nine million when there is so much potential for more.
Just imagine the loss in payroll taxes alone due to those lost jobs. If each job paid the national average of $43,000, the lost annual payroll taxes alone would be $43,000 x 9,000,000 x 0.153 = $59 billion.
If only the Republican Party had been serious about their 2010 jobs campaign and had created more than zero jobs to date…
indigo
November 4th, 2012
12:22 pm
joseph – 10:57 “equating such fraud to a single class of people”
That is one of the worst cases of reading incomprehension I’ve ever seen posted here. I should have known that trying to talk sense to an 8th grade Christian Academy student would be a complete waste of time.
By the way, aren’t you supposed to be in church now, punkie?
Your Christian Academy school does very well in teaching paranoia. You see racists behind every tree.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:23 pm
Matti @ 12:21
In the words of our infamous Kammie ……………… “No”.
TaxPayer
November 4th, 2012
12:24 pm
You don’t give a damn either. What’s your point?
That one deserves an AMEN and a HALLELUJAH, Bro.
kayaker 71
November 4th, 2012
12:26 pm
Brochepus, 12:21,
My point is my wonder at the never failing loyalty to Bozo from blacks in this country. He has done absolutely nothing for you but put you even deeper in despair. He has increased the handouts and that idiot from Cleveland with the Bozophone is a great example of handouts gone wild. He has put more people on welfare and managed to take away their independence by making them more government dependent. More food stamps, more government handouts. Is that the way you want to live your life? I sure as hell don’t.
indigo
November 4th, 2012
12:27 pm
RF – 10:58
See my 9:46 am to joseph
paulo977
November 4th, 2012
12:27 pm
Midori …..HAPPY BIRTHDAY …… Enjoy the moment !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBUerD9QR80&playnext=1&list=PLsviN-typ1aQ7LrZx_SvTNYr6krezo1DK&feature=results_vid
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:29 pm
Brosephus:
“Bozo doesn’t give a damn about the black community.
You don’t give a damn either.”
I do.
I fought alongside them, would have died for them, worked with them, backed them up, was supervised by them, served as a brother deacon with them, am next door neighbors with them and life-long friends with them. Just like anyone else.
Obama does NOT have your best interest at heart …………. only his own.
I know it’s hard to see the forest for the trees but four more years of Obama will mean less job opportunities for AMERICAN blacks.
josef
November 4th, 2012
12:31 pm
indigo
Hey, Carlos! I wondered where you’ve been…glad to know they got the wrists sewed back up, you miserable old Coot…
appleseed
November 4th, 2012
12:32 pm
With an Obama win we are less apt to go to war.Where with Romney,and congress chances are high we will be in military war,and price wars.Obama will try to work with other countries,Romney and congress will try to force.With either we face a rough road,from within and out.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 4th, 2012
12:32 pm
Well, the whole story reminds me of the time that all liquor stores had to stay closed on election day. The reason was because back in the day, local politicans would hand out pints of whiskey to anybody that would go in and vote for them. I reckon somebody figured if they closed the liquor stores the politicans couldn’t get the whiskey to hand out. Course, nobody even thought the politicans would be stocking up on pints of whiskey way before election day.
The story also reminds me that absentee voting is the way to go.
That’s how good Republicans voteYou don’t have to show voter ID and nobody even questions who you are. You don’t ever have a hassle and nobody even asks if you handed your ballot to somebody else to fill out. Maybe for a pint of whiskey.Have a good Sabbath everybody.
Jackie
November 4th, 2012
12:32 pm
First, the economic disparity for African Americans has been growing since 1774.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/20/us-income-inequality_n_1898539.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/09/us-income-inequality-its-worse-today-than-it-was-in-1774/262537/
The question to those who have experienced this overt racism, what is it like to be black?
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:33 pm
TaxPayer
I’m really getting tired of this race-based crap. If nothing else, it show’s the true nature of people who post here.
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My point is my wonder at the never failing loyalty to Bozo from blacks in this country. He has done absolutely nothing for you but put you even deeper in despair.
Why wonder about something that you have no true concern about? He hasn’t put me in despair, nor has he done anything to my family. You assume a bit much. Obama has no more bearing on my personal well being than you do. The fact that you attribute a cellphone, started by a “conservative” GW Bush and originally instituted by another “conservative” Reagan, to Obama is proof that you are truly ignorant to the truth and wouldn’t know it if truth shot you in the ass.
As to handouts and crap, that’s not how I live my life, and for you to assume I want to adds to that mountain of ignorance that resides between your ears. You’re just like any other dumbass in that you attribute things to him that he either has not done or has no control over. I really pray for people like you because I can’t honestly believe that any single human being would be so clueless in life.
Matti
November 4th, 2012
12:34 pm
Scout,
You’re preaching to the wrong choir here. What good are your words of astounding brilliance when they fall on deaf ears?
IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT AMERICAN BLACKS, you will cease this blogging wankage right this minute, and haul your cookies of wisdom down to the street outside of Ebeneezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, and evangelize the good folks who exit there.
Today. Right this minute. Because ONLY YOU have the stones to do this. Because YOU CARE sooooooo much.
God bless you!
getalife
November 4th, 2012
12:35 pm
mitt and the gop only care about the wealthy.
That single agenda will change after they lose again .
gop civil war is coming.
paulo977
November 4th, 2012
12:35 pm
Brosephus..”There’s this saying that’s been in the Black community since before I was born that says I have to be twice as good, twice as smart, and bust my ass twice as hard to be on equal footing with everyone else.”
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Folks just research the life of Obama and this is absolutely CLEAR …..no silver spoons there!!!!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:36 pm
Jackie:
“The question to those who have experienced this overt racism, what is it like to be black?”
I can never answer that question in that exact manner (although I have experienced discriminaiton in other ways) but I do know what it’s like to have a good job and I would think that every African-American would want that also.
Four more years of Obama will DECREASE NOT INCREASE that chance.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
12:36 pm
He hasn’t put me in despair…
That’s not true. You weren’t aware of this, but I was standing behind you in line at Whole Foods and I saw that your grocery cart was filled to overflowing with despair.
And you paid for it with foodstamps.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 4th, 2012
12:37 pm
Matti @ 12:34
Two points:
1) I don’t work for you.
2) In the words of our infamous Kammie ……………… “No”.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:38 pm
Scout
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!!!!! If you actually cared about Blacks, you wouldn’t have posted all that crap you just did. You may care about Black people you know, but that’s about all I’ll give you credit for. Your true colors show far more than you realize.
Why should Obama care more about me than you? Are we not both equally American? That’s the problem with some of y’all White people. You expected Obama to be some kind of Militant Black Man, and he’s actually been just another politician. What politician DOES NOT have their own self interests at heart?
Four years will be four years whether Romney or Obama wins. Neither one of them CAN do anything about Black employment in the US. That has to come from the private sector. As long as the mindset of this country remains as it is, nothing will change. That’s something that none of y’all seem to be able to wrap your brains around. The president can’t aid employment beyond creating government jobs. If you believe otherwise, then you’re only fooling yourself.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:39 pm
Kamchak
I forgot about that….
Jackie
November 4th, 2012
12:40 pm
@ 0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
You can never understand what it is like to know that you have a responsibility to your family and community and country to be “the best that you can be” and you walk to the plate of life to get the winning hit and you are called out because of your skin color.
How do you square that with your children and family? It all sounds like excuses, doesn’t it?
kayaker 71
November 4th, 2012
12:42 pm
More people on food stamps than at any time in our history, unemployment at nearly 30% in black males from 18 to 25, more black murders in predominantly black communities, including Macon Ga, my home, and in Chicago’s South Side, the most common cause of death in black males between 25 and 35 being violent homicide, nearly 70% of black children born to single mothers having to grow up in a single parent household, about half of the federal prisoners in the country being black males, only 50% graduation rates in high schools throughout the US……. yeah, you all are doing great.
Matti
November 4th, 2012
12:43 pm
Scout,
Don’t flatter yourself. There is NO job for which I would hire you.
I am merely suggesting that your overstated pretense today of caring about “American blacks” is a G–D— LIE.
Suck it, liar.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:44 pm
Kamchak
I forget that, even though my community is as diverse as America itself, we all live on food stamps in the projects. I have to wear my pants hanging off my ass and drive a loud car with 30″ rims.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:46 pm
kayaker
You’re damned right we’re doing great. In a country where the odds are stacked against our surviving and prospering, we’re still doing what we have to do to surive. There’s Black businessmen, Black billionaires, Black millionaires, Black property owners, and everything else that measures “success” here in America. Hell, we even took the White House from y’all. So what?
Doggone/GA
November 4th, 2012
12:52 pm
“Hell, we even took the White House from y’all”
Bro, I think I know what you’re trying to say…but this has an dishonest connotation that I don’t think you meant. You didn’t TAKE the White House…you WON IT.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
12:53 pm
Hell, we even took the White House from y’all.
Took hell.
Y’all traded in all y’all’s food stamps.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
12:55 pm
Doggone
Yep. That sounds better. Thanks!!
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Kamchak
So, that’s why he’s called the “food stamp” president?? The things I learn at Bookman’s… I’ve gotta get better in touch with my White ancestry so I can figure this stuff out on my own.
kayaker 71
November 4th, 2012
12:57 pm
Brocephus, 12:46,
Many of those black millionaires are sports figures and entertainers. I’m not talking about those predominantly black people who have “succeeded” in this country….. my comments are directed at those that most of these successful black people don’t even know exist and apparently could care less. A few make a foray into “community service” or some TV spot that makes us feel all warm and fuzzy for a minute but anything long lasting?…… not much to hang your hat on. The projects are still there, the crime is getting worse, more murders and violent crime than in any time in our history and Bozo and his administration could care less. And you vote for this clown, time and again to prove what? That he looks just like you do?
Doggone/GA
November 4th, 2012
12:58 pm
No problem, Bro! I’ve just spent a week getting a new PC set up…and I’m STILL not done, so I’ve decided to take a break and have some interaction other than merely machine!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 4th, 2012
1:01 pm
Suck it, liar.
Oh no! Matti’s went all #1 Foxy Lady on us!
getalife
November 4th, 2012
1:03 pm
I don’t care what color our President is as long as he or she is competent.
No more economic collapses or losing wars.
Four more years!
appleseed
November 4th, 2012
1:05 pm
Why single out the black?We poor white,hispanic any poor or low income know Obama does not desert us.Romney says I don’t need that 47% of the people.Now he’s sucking up to get your vote.Only to desert you if he should get elected.Romney and rich only want to get more money more control.Romney is well educated at breaking,reorganizing,taking company funds,including the pensions,with never a thought,of the welfare of the people hurt while doing this.The Rich peoples president.Hope/vote not.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
November 4th, 2012
1:06 pm
Stevie R: Please examine and let me know what you conclude..
That 1992 has nothing to do with 2008.
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RF: DDR: It’s okay if you’re doing “God’s work” dontcha know?
Yeah so THEY say!
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sn’t it strange none of the knuckleheads commented on the REPUBLICAN crook trying to vote twice?
They can’t read anything that isn’t first posted at Breibart.com
Jackie
November 4th, 2012
1:06 pm
The “increased crime” canard is without merit.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/06/11/12170947-fbi-violent-crime-rates-in-the-us-drop-approach-historic-lows?lite
TaxPayer
November 4th, 2012
1:09 pm
Republicans such as kayaker and scout, et al, knows deep down in their hearts that blacks are still suffering because of all the handouts that Republicans such as themselves have to pay for and so they want to help the blacks pull themselves up by their own bootstraps so they can suceed.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
1:09 pm
kayaker
You’re basing what YOU think is “success” and trying to apply that to others who probably don’t share a common ideal with you.
For example, I don’t make millions, and I don’t make hundreds of thousands, but I consider myself more than successful. H have my own home, 4 cars in the driveway, and can pretty much do whatever I choose to do. The fact that you don’t realize there are millions like me shows that you don’t have the first clue about the Black community. You choose to focus on the small percentage and try to extrapolate that to the majority.
You do and think what you feel you have to do. I understand that opinions don’t have to have any factual content to be a valid opinion, and I respect your opinion as it being yours and totally unhinged to the truth.
As to voting for Obama, if the choice is between him and Romney, it’s better to go with the evil you know versus the one you don’t know. However, there are 4 candidates on the ballot in GA, and only one is definitely NOT getting my vote (Romney).
getalife
November 4th, 2012
1:11 pm
The fact that cons are racists has been proven many times.
It is funny watching them pretend to not being racists but we know they are
It started with the birther movement and has not ended yet.
indigo
November 4th, 2012
1:12 pm
joseph – 12:31
Unfortunately, I always seem to find you here, you little puke.
Doggone/GA
November 4th, 2012
1:20 pm
“joseph – 12:31″
I see that among your many missing accomplishments is spelling
LeRoi2
November 4th, 2012
1:20 pm
At the DEM convention you were required to show 2 forms of ID to be allowed into the hall to hear Obama speak. But these same duplicitous slime balls say you should be able to vote with none.