Peggy’s story: The cruel cynicism of the voter ID crusade
Hans von Spakovsky, a former Fulton County Republican party official and now a star of the right’s nationwide effort to suppress voting through strict voter ID protocols, continues to pretend that in-person voting fraud constitutes a major threat to American democracy.
Yet when challenged to present evidence of such a threat, as he was in a recent article in The New Yorker, he continues to fail.
For example, in responding to the New Yorker article, von Spakovsky listed a series of recent alleged voting fraud cases that to his mind justified the expense, bureaucracy and obstacles to voting created by voter ID laws. They were:
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– the Democratic nominee for Maryland’s first congressional district removed from the ballot after it was discovered that she had registered and voted in both Maryland and Florida in the 2006 and 2008 elections;
– an Arkansas legislator resigning after pleading guilty (with three other defendants) to committing voter fraud;
– a Canadian couple and a Mexican citizen arrested for illegally registering and voting in Iowa;
– a New Jersey resident convicted on multiple counts of voter fraud;
– three Indiana residents (including a former Democratic mayoral candidate) indicted for voter fraud;
– three Ohioans indicted for double voting;
– a Mexican drug dealer’s guilty plea for voting illegally in the 2008 presidential election;
– Florida’s discovery of nearly 200 non-citizens illegally registered to vote, and
– a city-council race in Vernon, Calif., overturned owing to voter fraud.
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That’s the best he could do?
Once again, none of the examples could have been prevented through voter ID. Requiring a drivers license to vote, for example, does nothing to prevent non-citizens from voting because citizenship is not noted on the license.
Also note that none of the examples cited by von Spakovsky involved an organized effort to alter an election through fraudulent in-person voting. Several involved absentee balloting, the easiest and most popular way to abuse the electoral process. However, it is noteworthy that the Republican Party has in general tried to expand absentee voting without tightening oversight because that’s the means that many of its own voters tend to prefer.
Peggy Cobb
Which brings us to the story of 97-year-old Peggy Cobb of Sandy Springs, as related in an email from her son Bill:
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“I now have a crystal clear, visceral understanding of why some politicians think voter ID laws are so important. The suppressive power of this law to deter people from voting is far greater than I realized. Meet my mother.
She is 97, in good health and with virtually all her marbles (bad hearing loss, though), living an active, independent life in Sandy Springs. She moved here four years ago or so. Had one knee replaced a couple years ago.
Peggy has voted in every presidential election since she was eligible, and most if not all others, too. She pays attention to this stuff more than a lot of people I know. She insists, often with me chafing, on hearing the other side.
She has a Fulton County voter registration card and has voted in every election when she’s been here. Her expired Indiana driver’s license used to be enough ID at the polling booth. No more.
But all she had to do was go to a driver’s services office, show the necessary documents, and get her Georgia Voter ID. Some waiting. No fees. Great deal.
So Peggy gathered up her voter registration card, some utility bills, bank statements, rent receipts and tax returns and went to Driver Services. They said “Great, you have everything you need. Except a birth certificate.”
She went back home and eventually figured out how to order a birth certificate from Minnesota, where she was born and married. Six weeks later, it arrived. Peggy returned to Drivers Services very enthusiastic, since the election was only a couple weeks off. They said “Great, you have everything you need, except the last name on your birth certificate isn’t the same as on all these other documents.”
Well of course not, she got married in 1943. What else could that middle initial “V” stand for except her maiden name, Vanstrom?
No Georgia voter ID card for Peggy without a marriage certificate.
I rarely ever see my mother near tears, but I did then. Some combination of rage and foreboding maybe. Luckily, the Minnesota county that has her marriage certificate is very user friendly. They even do same day turn-around and overnight delivery, if you pay for it. Time was short. $53. But UPS screwed up and misdelivered it, so Minnesota sent another one (no charge) to my house. My wife and I made sure one of us was home all day to sign for it.
Yesterday, back to Drivers Services. A friend drove her. They said, “Great, you have everything you need, except your Social Security number doesn’t match our system. Sorry, no exceptions.”
The friend, who had only bargained for lunch really, drove Peggy home to search for more papers with her Social Security number on it, then drove her to a Social Security office in Marietta. The agent could find nothing amiss, and gave her some papers.
Drivers Services finally relented and gave Peggy a Georgia voter ID yesterday, 5 days before the election. What would she have done without that determined friend?
You probably can’t truly appreciate the physical and emotion toll this ordeal has taken on Peggy. She definitely can’t believe it.
“Why is Georgia doing this to me! Do they want me not to be here? I thought government was supposed to make voting as simple as possible. I don’t understand it!”
I explained the reason for Georgia’s anti-fraud requirements with a joke I heard a long time ago. It begins with a guy standing around constantly snapping his fingers.
“Why are you doing that?” someone asked.
“I’m keeping the elephants away.”
“What? There’s never been an elephant within a thousand miles of here!”
“See, it’s working.”
The reality, of course, is much more mean-spirited and pernicious. Peggy got the joke right away. But she’s still not happy. It’s not funny. At all.
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No, Peggy’s not happy. In a later message, she herself spoke of her frustration with what she calls “Beautiful Georgia, my adopted state as I finish life’s journey.” Voting absentee, she says, “seemed sensible.” But on the other hand, she wanted to once again feel the excitement of voting in person, on Election Day.
“This year 2012 held new significance … my last year ever to vote in a presidential election. I wanted to feel part of this great privilege, wanted to again walk out of my precinct tapping my Georgia Peach voter sticker. Even if the day were dark, gloomy and cold, the sun would be shining.”
But “government intrusion stripped me of my established legal right to vote in 2012 unless I complied with new restriction laws…. I will vote in person on Nov. 6 but my spirit is broken. Trust in the government of my adopted state is shattered, a cruel joke.”
– Jay Bookman
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DannyX
November 3rd, 2012
12:37 pm
“Darn right..stinking republicans ruin everything they touch…the legacy of all those rotten liars over the past 50 years is the root of all evil today…all they do is ruin our buzz and make it impossible to get done the things that us progressives stand for…they have a lot of nerve!”
“Great idea, clearly god knows those evil church going evangelicals are just good for attending church and more importantly putting money in the baskets…who needs that?”
Glad you are starting to get the message Stevie Ray, good for you.
DannyX
November 3rd, 2012
12:40 pm
“get over it CONS, your time is nearing the end!”
Just 3 more days!!!!!
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
12:40 pm
kamchuk.
Close enough, and as far as Obama winning this election. I wouldn’t count my chickens before they hatch. So to speak spurt.
lynnie gal
November 3rd, 2012
12:40 pm
Conservatives who read this story and commented support for these draconian ID laws are reacting with the same hard-headed, hard-hearted response that will cost them this election. When they go to renew their driver’s licenses or voter ID’s they will have to produce those documents and maybe a few of them will be turned away for lack of documentation. It would serve them right.
indigo
November 3rd, 2012
12:42 pm
Kamchak – 12:17
When I said “both candidates”, I meant in every presidential election since this has been an issue.
A little reading comprehension, please.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 3rd, 2012
12:42 pm
“You want to vote? Tough.”
Get in line early on voting day !!!
indigo
November 3rd, 2012
12:44 pm
Brosephus – 12:14
That is not what I asked.
RF
November 3rd, 2012
12:44 pm
One thing I can pretty much guarantee is that if the Republican party had a strong candidate instead of the grudingly supported Romney, there wouldn’t be such fuss about this. They weren’t wailing about it and passing all these laws in 1980 when it was obvious they’d win. Realize this, Georgia has over 5 million registered voters. To change an election by even ONE percent, you’d have to have FIFTY THOUSAND fraudulent votes. How’s that gonna happen?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 3rd, 2012
12:45 pm
“It’s not the voting that’s democracy; it’s the counting.” Tom Stoppard
“Voting is a right best exercised by people who have taken time to learn about the issues.” Tony Snow
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 3rd, 2012
12:46 pm
HOURGLASS
Hmmm….all republicans fault for racism? Dig deeper:
http://russp.us/racism.htm
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 3rd, 2012
12:48 pm
RF
Can’t disagree but IMO the REP simply want Obama out…I think they are beyond caring who his replacement is…
Matti
November 3rd, 2012
12:48 pm
Scout,
Reading your comments today, this song came to mind, and I just had to dedicate it to you and all those who say the things you say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJK9PLOATOQ
Old and Angry White Republican
November 3rd, 2012
12:48 pm
I’m gonna be a minority member by 2020. Dang.
DannyX
November 3rd, 2012
12:48 pm
There is a large illegal alien population in Gwinnett County, why haven’t they been busy stuffing the ballot box there? County, school board, state, all white Republicans except for 1.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 3rd, 2012
12:49 pm
(CNN) — “In an era when shadowy hackers can snatch secret government files and humble big businesses with seeming ease, it’s an unavoidable question as Election Day approaches: When we go to the polls, could our very votes be at risk?”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/03/tech/innovation/electronic-vote-security/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
RF
November 3rd, 2012
12:51 pm
Here’s a little more math: There are roughly 150 million registered voters, give or take out of about 205 million eligible. To change an election by even one point would mean you’d have to have 1,500,000 votes…and that’s just to move the needle ONE point. How could anyone, or any group, manage over one million fraudulent votes per one point in election totals nationwide?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 3rd, 2012
12:52 pm
Some of us on here have been willing (for most or at various times) to put our lives on the line for this Republic and the right of its “citizens” (repeat citizens) to vote.
When you can say that ………….. I will give your opinion more weight.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 3rd, 2012
12:54 pm
P.S. Notice I said your “opinion” …………. not your vote. The Constitution gives you that.
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
12:55 pm
indigo
I know what you asked. My point is, how many other Western countries offer the same promise that the US offers? None, which is one of the primary reasons why other countries don’t have the same issues with immigration to the extent that we do. Another reason is because our immigration laws are far more relaxed than most other countries due to our freedom to move about and around without encountering delays.
RF
November 3rd, 2012
12:55 pm
“I think they are beyond caring who his replacement is”
And that is what makes me very, very sad about this election. Instead of it being about two strong candidates and who’s plan for the future of this country is best, it’s about getting Obama out of office, the future be damned. That doesn’t speak well for the country or for the Republican party, and I’ve voted for more Republicans than I have Democrats over the years, believe it or not!
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
12:59 pm
Please, con hacks like scout don’t care about anything but getting our President.
Lets cut the crap scout.
You proved your true colors.
You are a horrible American.
Corey
November 3rd, 2012
1:02 pm
My conservative brethen, we are thirty plus years into the “Conservative Movement” now, and I ask once again, other than some states passing amendments to bar same sex marriage and restricitons on abortions, are we better off as a nation? Resonalbe responses, please.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
1:06 pm
Corey,
cons are worthless tools to help wealthy Americans that need no help from them.
The con movement is worthless except for the wealthy.
Carlos
November 3rd, 2012
1:07 pm
Fulton County is not run by Republicans. Personally, I filled out a voter registration card, in person, WAY AHEAD of the deadline, at the North springs Annex because I wanted to vote in an upcoming election.
I wasn’t registered by the election. Fancy that!
indigo
November 3rd, 2012
1:07 pm
Brosephus – 12:55
I don’t think it’s any harder to move around in Canada, England, Wales, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, or Ireland than in the US.
And, in fact, these countries have much stricter rules on immigration than we do. And, even though we think our country is the greatest in the world, there are good opportunities in other countries as well.
So, I just want to know how we managed to wind up with millions of illegals and totally ignore our immigrations laws? Who dropped the ball? Are we Americans so ignorant and naive to believe we can just ignore these laws and not pay a huge price in time?
JamVet
November 3rd, 2012
1:08 pm
get, ask any of these cons what they love about our representative democratic government and our system of laws.
Chirp….
Chirp….
Chirp….
Tundra Dude
November 3rd, 2012
1:15 pm
I have a friend who is trying to get a birth certificate for his elderly mother so she can renew he drivers license, They are telling him it will take 6 weeks.
Could be worse. It took 5-6 months to get a duplicate Naturalization Cert thru Homeland Security…costs $400.00.
Took only 3 weeks,(and 10 Euros) to get a duplicate BC from a tiny village in the former E. Germany.
Recon 0311 2533
November 3rd, 2012
1:20 pm
Good thing Peggy is in good health because if she had to go to a doctor she would have to show an insurance card along with a photo I.D. The left despises voter I.D. laws but it’s not because of tender hearted feelings toward the elderly and the poor.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
1:26 pm
Adding on regulations to vote is ignorant like the rest of the con ideas.
They have to blatantly lie, flip flop and try to cheat to win.
It is time for a reckoning for the right in our country.
JamVet
November 3rd, 2012
1:32 pm
The great American, Peggy Cobb, deserves a whole lot better than these disgusting Republican fascists in Georgia…
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
1:34 pm
“VOTING IS THE BEST REVENGE” drudgey.
Don’t let the blatant liars, flip floppers and cheaters win.
MLM
November 3rd, 2012
1:34 pm
The true crime is our low turn out for elections.
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
1:35 pm
Without a valid picture ID, How are you going to know if they are the same person who is listed on thw pictureless ID paper they just presented you with?
TaxPayer
November 3rd, 2012
1:35 pm
Some cons that have enlisted in the past think they have more rights than others.
Not in this land.
St Simons
November 3rd, 2012
1:38 pm
Peggy, the tell was when they found out you were from Minnesota.
This bunch of goatmolesting rednecks weren’t ABOUT to let you near
a voting booth no matter what you showed them.
drip…drip…drip….every day, the avg guy (& most women) hate
you more & more.
When the people get mad enough, they’ll get even, cons.
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
1:38 pm
“VOTING IS THE BEST REVENGE”
Yeah, that’s just what we need in a National Presidential election. Getalife, are you casting your ballot out of revenge or are you voting to suppossedly better the nation?
Gee
November 3rd, 2012
1:39 pm
Funny how these GA Republicans are so worried about voter “fraud”. The real fraud being perpetrated is how they govern. Foxbusiness.com-not exactly a liberal operation- has deemed this state the “most corrupt in the nation. Don’t believe me? Read this:
. Georgia
> Overall grade: F (49%)
> Public access to information: F
> Legislative accountability: F
> Political financing: F
> Ethics enforcement agencies: F
Georgia has the worst levels of corruption risk and lack of accountability of any state in the country. The state scored a D or worse in 12 of the 14 categories. The state’s biggest problem is the absence of a strong ethics enforcement agency. Republican governor Sonny Perdue managed to get an ethics bill through the legislature, but by the time it passed, his proposals to ban gifts to state workers and clearly define appropriate campaign spending had been stripped out. According to State Integrity reporter Jim Walls, while Georgia has provisions to prevent certain kinds of corruption in campaign finance and lobbying, the state is full of unaddressed loopholes and lax enforcement. “About 2,000 Georgia officials, including one in five sitting legislators, have failed to pay penalties for filing their disclosures late, or not at all.”
Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/investing/2012/03/22/americas-most-corrupt-states/?intcmp=sem_outloud#ixzz2B7u08vLN
Mick
November 3rd, 2012
1:41 pm
This is pretty funny-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDxOSjgl5Z4&feature=youtu.be
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
1:43 pm
Orange,
I am voting for no more collapses or wars.
Four more years.
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm
Gee,
You get an F. Vote them out if you don’t like them!
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
1:45 pm
Getalife,
Sounded like you were voting out of revenge to me. You did post that.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
1:48 pm
Orange,
cons just want our President gone and don’t care about our country destroyed again by the gop.
Our President always said don’t boo, vote.
yuzeyurbrane
November 3rd, 2012
1:48 pm
My view is that the voter suppression laws were the result of a criminal conspiracy to deprive American citizens of their voting rights because they came from certain demographic groups that tended not to vote Republican. If there were a criminal or Congressional investigation I have no doubt that ample evidence will be found that these laws did not just spring up by coincidence since 2008. Von Spakovsky and his co-conspirators should have been prosecuted long ago and, if convicted, put in the slammer.
Faye
November 3rd, 2012
1:49 pm
As usual, Newt is full of crap.
mobilebay
November 3rd, 2012
1:52 pm
I demand:
1. To withdraw funds from an account without ID
Carl W. Goss
November 3rd, 2012
1:55 pm
Just another example of GOP voter suppression. Make it as difficult as possible for the poor, the elderly and African-Americans in the inner cities to vote, and perhaps they’ll be so discouraged they won’t even try. This works to the advantage of the GOP, since these groups tend to vote democratic.
Nice to know people are fighting back.
Los Angeles
josef
November 3rd, 2012
1:55 pm
When I turned 18 there were two things on the day’s agenda. Registration for the draft, and register to vote. Pretty much a one stop affair, it was. Stop in first to sign up for Vietnam, two doors down and register to vote. All they wanted to see at the latter was the document from the former. All they wanted at the former was to fill out a form asking me when and where I was born. No identification requested. Oh, they did ask me race, creed and next of kin, whether or not I was a student, employed or both, along with the current address, telephone number, and social security number if I had one (believe it or not!). Still, though, no piece of paper was required for any of all that. Form filled out, temporary document received, and down the hall, show the document, sign a form (or make my mark) and put on the rolls.
I guess since it was Mississippi, the idea was that if you were willing to attest that you were either born or lived in the G-dforsaken place, that was good enough. On the more serious note, however, the philosophy was that if you were signing up to go get shot in the name of the state, then, by damn, you could vote for who was running the state. If the state wasn’t being too picky about who was canon fodder, then they shouldn’t be too picky about who could vote, either.
Of course, that was a simpler time and place.
H.E. Pennypacker
November 3rd, 2012
1:57 pm
MobileBay,
First off, bank accounts are not constitutionally protected.
Secondly, get an ATM and you can withdraw money without an ID card any time.
H.E. Pennypacker
November 3rd, 2012
2:01 pm
Get a debit card would have been clearer.
I love these false equivalents.
Luckily Nate Silver has his Obama odds up to 83.7%.
josef
November 3rd, 2012
2:03 pm
As for the topic at hand, aside from the “suspected” aim to limit the franchise, the whole megillah that lady had to go through is at bottom line just one more example of the bureaucracy run amok. Georgia gets a richly deserved black eye in this one.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
2:07 pm
orange,
“Romney’s Final Message: Vote With Us, Or You’re Fired” AOL.
Bow down.
Recon 0311 2533
November 3rd, 2012
2:08 pm
Gee It wasn’t Fox that wrote that report on the most corrupt states, it was the Center for Public Integrity, a left leaning organization that omitted some of the most well known corrupt states like Illinois, California, New York and New Jersey. You can see that Fox News is indeed fair and balanced even reporting leftist viewpoints.
bman
November 3rd, 2012
2:09 pm
Hey people….times have changed.
Try opening a restaurant and see how many hurdles stand in your way. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t always so difficult. It is what it is….
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 3rd, 2012
2:12 pm
Close enough…
National average for a gallon of gas on Friday November 2, 2012 = $3.50.
And you say $3.50 is close enough to $6?
Is that faith based math you are doing?
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When I said “both candidates”, I meant in every presidential election since this has been an issue.
Since this is the 1st presidential election that this has been an issue, you’re talking about only 1 election.
A little reading comprehension, please.
RF
November 3rd, 2012
2:18 pm
“Georgia gets a richly deserved black eye in this one”
Imagine what it’s like for those who don’t have the family and friends to transport them around and call all over the country to get copies? We moved my dad to a smaller house closer to my younger brother and me after Mom died, in a different county. He was born and raised in Atlanta,served in the Air Force, and has had a driver’s license since 1956. He was quite ruffled by having to dig up his birth certificate and SS card to renew his license and change the address, not to mention the waiting time to do it. He was lucky- my mom was a packrat and a paper keeping fool who had every document filed and stored carefully. The old fart is a staunch Republican and griped for weeks about the bullsh*t laws this state is passing that make everything so difficult (he added a LOT of colorful language there I’ll leave everyone to insert at will). He remembers the 60’s and how hard it was to register to vote for some people then, and he said this is just an updated version of the same thing.
BunnyK
November 3rd, 2012
2:18 pm
“Voter ID requirements suppress fraud, just like checking ID for beer and tobacco supress underage drinking and smoking!”
And people are required to show ONE PIECE of ID in order to buy cigarettes or alcohol. ONE. You can hardly compare what Peggy went through to that.
BunnyK
November 3rd, 2012
2:23 pm
“Try opening a restaurant and see how many hurdles stand in your way. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t always so difficult. It is what it is….”
You’re comparing voting, a constitutionally guaranteed right, to opening up a restaurant? That makes no sense. Classic case of apples and oranges. Go back to school and take a class in critical thinking.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
2:24 pm
Looks like the polls will not correct much this cycle.
The President will win it again.
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
2:27 pm
indigo
You basically answered your own question. Our immigration laws are purposefully lax. We make it easy to enter and leave the US for a reason. Commerce. The harder we make it to enter and depart the US, the more money it costs businesses to move their people and goods about.
We don’t ignore our immigration laws. We simply have immigration laws that mirror our other laws, such as tax law. They are so complex that experts don’t always know what’s legal vs what’s not.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 3rd, 2012
2:32 pm
The harder we make it to enter and depart the US, the more money it costs businesses to move their people and goods about.
And that ladies and gentlemen is the crux of the issue.
Cheap labor.
As long as unemployment numbers are low, “the illeeegalz” is a non issue.
Doggone/GA
November 3rd, 2012
2:32 pm
“Without a valid picture ID, How are you going to know if they are the same person who is listed on thw pictureless ID paper they just presented you with?”
And how do you know on a mailed in ballot?
CdnObserver
November 3rd, 2012
2:36 pm
Most of us cannot believe the controversy over voting in the US. This is essentially a non-issue in developed nations. In Canada, where I’m from, elections are administered by an independant federal agency whose manager is approved by parliament and who must adhere to its mandate ( the current one evidently was unanimously approved ). Voting is quick and simple, I’ve never had to wait more than 5 minutes and paper ballots are universally used, though it must be noted that we don’t have the citizen initiatives that you do . There are scattered complaints of voting irregularities, but nothing of any real consequence and our elections are cheap and short. Why all the fighting, why don’t Americans trust each other? How come you only have 2 parties for that matter?
AU Liberal in ATL
November 3rd, 2012
2:37 pm
Everybody knows what this is about, and it has absolutely nothing to do with voter fraud. It’s impossible to fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
gdrla
November 3rd, 2012
2:38 pm
Gee Newt – as a native Floridian from Tampa – moved here 40+ years ago I recall many conversations in my youth & in the years since when in FLA with the ’snowbirds’ who laughed about the fact that they voted in person in Florida & via absentee ballot ‘back home’. And they were mostly conservative & Republican – seems as if abuse can be on BOTH sides of the aisle.
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
2:39 pm
Kamchak
Yep!!
Skip
November 3rd, 2012
2:39 pm
That birth certificate that got me into the Marines and into Viet Nam isn’t good enough for a Ga. drivers license, hospital issued. That laminated SS card I’ve used for 50 years, no good in Ga.for anything. Less intrusive? smaller? only in your dreams.
Gmare
November 3rd, 2012
2:40 pm
Thanks to Peggy & her son for sharing her story with us, and to you, Jay.
Common Sense
November 3rd, 2012
2:41 pm
“I beg your forgiveness but if it weren’t for all those scumbag GOPs, we could definitely solve all our problems..I don’t know how we tolerate them…get over it CONS, your time is nearing the end!”
It’s worked so well in Cuba and North Korea….
Erwin's cat
November 3rd, 2012
2:46 pm
Bro – whats the scoop for parking at the new international terminal ?
beam me up
November 3rd, 2012
2:46 pm
I am encouraged that the Republicans think they have to resort to dirty tricks to have any chance of winning this year. The demographic trends are all working aganst them. In another four years, even the dirty tricks won’t provide any hope. They need a bigger tent. Unfortunately for them, they have run on a platform of intolerance for so long that if they open the door to new constituencies, they risk losing parts of their old base.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
2:47 pm
rudy should be run out of NY City on a rail.
Instead of helping fellow New Yorkers, he is campaigning for romney in Ohio asking our President to resign on Libya.
Piece of crap.
TaxPayer
November 3rd, 2012
2:51 pm
I suspect that Mitt sat down Billy and had a little heart-to-heart with him in order to get him to change him mind about continuing to refer to Mormonism as a cult. It likely went something along the lines of, “Now Billy, I really would like to keep you on in the lucrative role of spiritual adviser to the president but I’m just having a hard time doing that without first changing your title to cult adviser to the president…”
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
2:51 pm
EC
There’s hourly parking right in front of the terminal. There’s also a long term parking deck at the entrance to the terminal. The long term deck has a shuttle that operates back and forth. I don’t know what the costs are though. I haven’t heard anything bad about the parking to date.
Erwin's cat
November 3rd, 2012
2:54 pm
Thx Bro
St Simons
November 3rd, 2012
2:55 pm
Romney’s Final Message: Vote Republican or Youre fired
Romney Staff Throws Christie Under the Bus (must be a modified
suspension bus)
GOP Senate Hopes In Freefall
Murdoch Demands Christie “Re-Declare for Romney”
Oh, next week is gonna be, well, 3 words – Dee-li-cious
Pass the popcorn heheh
Oh, yeah, we’re gonna rub your nose in it, cons
you’ve sure pooped enough on the carpet.
kimmer
November 3rd, 2012
2:57 pm
“That’s the best he could do?”
And the best you could do was a single anecdotal story about a very elderly lady who regrettably had a hard time getting her ID?
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
2:57 pm
EC
I also forgot to mention there is a shuttle that goes between the main terminal and the international terminal. If you take MARTA, you’re still able to move from terminal to terminal without having to navigate the entire airport.
TaxPayer
November 3rd, 2012
3:01 pm
Now you listen to me Chris Christie, you get in line and declare your support for Romney or you’ll never get air time on my shows again. – The Real Rupert
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
Funny thing, in what is considered the world’s most content and arguably its most democratic, Costa Rica, voting is not a right or a privilege, it’s an obligation. In a document check, if your cedula does not indicate you voted in the last election, zapped with a fine. One national document for all purposes. Its a bureaucratic society, all right, and that cedula has to be shown a’plenty. The income to the state coffers from the non voting is not as high as you might think. Folks vote. The idea of not voting just doesn’t make a lot of sense.
Wilbur
November 3rd, 2012
3:05 pm
Voter fraud has been a staple of democrat politics for generations. If our votes are sacred, so is the integrity of the elections. It’s that simple.
Of course Bookman only cares about being able to steal what he cannot earn. Dang! That sounds like a democrat campaign slogan.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
3:08 pm
rudy took Christie ’s place as the fox hack.
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
3:13 pm
josef
Here, in the United States, that would be considered over regulations and government impeding the personal rights and freedoms of it’s citizens.
Thomas Heyward Jr
November 3rd, 2012
3:13 pm
If Peggy feels violated now…………..just wait until she gets gate-raped by a friendly TSA thug the next time she flies.
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Hopefully …..for her sake, she won’t have to.
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:14 pm
And then there’s Argentina…
“Compulsory for citizens between 18 and 70 years old, non-compulsory for those older than 70. (However in primaries, citizens under 70 may refuse to vote, if they formally express their decision to the electoral authorities, at least 48 hours before the election. This is valid only for the subsequent primary, and needs to be repeated each time the voter wishes not to participate.)”
And they just lowered the voting age to 16…
Some places have decided to make it harder NOT to vote…hmmmm….what a novel idea in state intrusion,,,
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:16 pm
BROSEPHUS
True, that, and I’d tend to agree with it…bad enough having no choice by choice, being forced to go to sign off on no choice kinda ruffles my anarchist feathers…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 3rd, 2012
3:19 pm
Ooooooooh, anarchist feather boas.
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
3:20 pm
Doggone,
Good question as you have to be a registered voter prior to requesting an absentee voter registration. However you can also register to vote for the first time by mail if you possess a Drivers License, State issued ID and another piece of paper that shows the same address as your ID such as a light bill etc. I still think that by requiring a picture ID to vote cuts down on voter fraud
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
3:21 pm
Your Rebel bias is showing josef
bman
November 3rd, 2012
3:23 pm
“You’re comparing voting, a constitutionally guaranteed right, to opening up a restaurant? That makes no sense. Classic case of apples and oranges. Go back to school and take a class in critical thinking.”
I’m pretty sure my point was that times have changed. Nothing is as easy anymore. But thanks for your .02….that’s about all it was worth
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:23 pm
K’chak
I’ll let your borrow it, if DDR says it’s okay…
QUESTION GOPers:
If I show up at the polls smoking a cigarette and swigging from my gin bottle, do I need to show an id?
Brosephus™
November 3rd, 2012
3:24 pm
josef
And we both know you already have enough ruffled feathers.
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:25 pm
getalife
Now, now…that’s rebel with a lower case!
TM
November 3rd, 2012
3:28 pm
If you want to get revenge on Tuesday you are going to need a photo ID
josef
November 3rd, 2012
3:29 pm
IMAM
Don’t know if you’re here, but has the moderator now been programmed to knock out the second of a double post? If so, thanks. If you, thanks.
On the other hand, by repeating myself, I was hoping I might be able to get me a Doddering Old Fool carte blanche to say whatever I d*mned well feel like and not be held responsible.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
3:30 pm
josef,
That would be for a republican
Orange12
November 3rd, 2012
3:31 pm
I thought you libs had this election sewn up. So that being the case. Why are you against showing a legal picture ID at the voting precinct? If you have this thing won a few illegal votes not being allowed isn’t going to hurt you.
Doggone/GA
November 3rd, 2012
3:32 pm
“I still think that by requiring a picture ID to vote cuts down on voter fraud”
What voter fraud? How about some proof that it exists in numbers great enough to change the results of a national election, why don’t you? No one else can, but I’m SURE you have access to proof that no one else has.
DownInAlbany
November 3rd, 2012
3:33 pm
I will vote in person on Nov. 6
I do empathize with this woman, she seems to be a great American, but, this is the bottom line. Much ado about nothing…
Jay
November 3rd, 2012
3:34 pm
“On the other hand, by repeating myself, I was hoping I might be able to get me a Doddering Old Fool carte blanche to say whatever I d*mned well feel like and not be held responsible.
In your case, that was issued a year or two ago, no worries.
getalife
November 3rd, 2012
3:34 pm
Louisiana can register to vote when they get their driver’s license.
They send you a card and you need your id to vote.
I will chant four more years then make a movie of the con’s faces in line.