Peggy’s story: The cruel cynicism of the voter ID crusade
Hans von Spakovsky, a former Fulton County Republican party official and now a star of the right’s nationwide effort to suppress voting through strict voter ID protocols, continues to pretend that in-person voting fraud constitutes a major threat to American democracy.
Yet when challenged to present evidence of such a threat, as he was in a recent article in The New Yorker, he continues to fail.
For example, in responding to the New Yorker article, von Spakovsky listed a series of recent alleged voting fraud cases that to his mind justified the expense, bureaucracy and obstacles to voting created by voter ID laws. They were:
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– the Democratic nominee for Maryland’s first congressional district removed from the ballot after it was discovered that she had registered and voted in both Maryland and Florida in the 2006 and 2008 elections;
– an Arkansas legislator resigning after pleading guilty (with three other defendants) to committing voter fraud;
– a Canadian couple and a Mexican citizen arrested for illegally registering and voting in Iowa;
– a New Jersey resident convicted on multiple counts of voter fraud;
– three Indiana residents (including a former Democratic mayoral candidate) indicted for voter fraud;
– three Ohioans indicted for double voting;
– a Mexican drug dealer’s guilty plea for voting illegally in the 2008 presidential election;
– Florida’s discovery of nearly 200 non-citizens illegally registered to vote, and
– a city-council race in Vernon, Calif., overturned owing to voter fraud.
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That’s the best he could do?
Once again, none of the examples could have been prevented through voter ID. Requiring a drivers license to vote, for example, does nothing to prevent non-citizens from voting because citizenship is not noted on the license.
Also note that none of the examples cited by von Spakovsky involved an organized effort to alter an election through fraudulent in-person voting. Several involved absentee balloting, the easiest and most popular way to abuse the electoral process. However, it is noteworthy that the Republican Party has in general tried to expand absentee voting without tightening oversight because that’s the means that many of its own voters tend to prefer.
Peggy Cobb
Which brings us to the story of 97-year-old Peggy Cobb of Sandy Springs, as related in an email from her son Bill:
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“I now have a crystal clear, visceral understanding of why some politicians think voter ID laws are so important. The suppressive power of this law to deter people from voting is far greater than I realized. Meet my mother.
She is 97, in good health and with virtually all her marbles (bad hearing loss, though), living an active, independent life in Sandy Springs. She moved here four years ago or so. Had one knee replaced a couple years ago.
Peggy has voted in every presidential election since she was eligible, and most if not all others, too. She pays attention to this stuff more than a lot of people I know. She insists, often with me chafing, on hearing the other side.
She has a Fulton County voter registration card and has voted in every election when she’s been here. Her expired Indiana driver’s license used to be enough ID at the polling booth. No more.
But all she had to do was go to a driver’s services office, show the necessary documents, and get her Georgia Voter ID. Some waiting. No fees. Great deal.
So Peggy gathered up her voter registration card, some utility bills, bank statements, rent receipts and tax returns and went to Driver Services. They said “Great, you have everything you need. Except a birth certificate.”
She went back home and eventually figured out how to order a birth certificate from Minnesota, where she was born and married. Six weeks later, it arrived. Peggy returned to Drivers Services very enthusiastic, since the election was only a couple weeks off. They said “Great, you have everything you need, except the last name on your birth certificate isn’t the same as on all these other documents.”
Well of course not, she got married in 1943. What else could that middle initial “V” stand for except her maiden name, Vanstrom?
No Georgia voter ID card for Peggy without a marriage certificate.
I rarely ever see my mother near tears, but I did then. Some combination of rage and foreboding maybe. Luckily, the Minnesota county that has her marriage certificate is very user friendly. They even do same day turn-around and overnight delivery, if you pay for it. Time was short. $53. But UPS screwed up and misdelivered it, so Minnesota sent another one (no charge) to my house. My wife and I made sure one of us was home all day to sign for it.
Yesterday, back to Drivers Services. A friend drove her. They said, “Great, you have everything you need, except your Social Security number doesn’t match our system. Sorry, no exceptions.”
The friend, who had only bargained for lunch really, drove Peggy home to search for more papers with her Social Security number on it, then drove her to a Social Security office in Marietta. The agent could find nothing amiss, and gave her some papers.
Drivers Services finally relented and gave Peggy a Georgia voter ID yesterday, 5 days before the election. What would she have done without that determined friend?
You probably can’t truly appreciate the physical and emotion toll this ordeal has taken on Peggy. She definitely can’t believe it.
“Why is Georgia doing this to me! Do they want me not to be here? I thought government was supposed to make voting as simple as possible. I don’t understand it!”
I explained the reason for Georgia’s anti-fraud requirements with a joke I heard a long time ago. It begins with a guy standing around constantly snapping his fingers.
“Why are you doing that?” someone asked.
“I’m keeping the elephants away.”
“What? There’s never been an elephant within a thousand miles of here!”
“See, it’s working.”
The reality, of course, is much more mean-spirited and pernicious. Peggy got the joke right away. But she’s still not happy. It’s not funny. At all.
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No, Peggy’s not happy. In a later message, she herself spoke of her frustration with what she calls “Beautiful Georgia, my adopted state as I finish life’s journey.” Voting absentee, she says, “seemed sensible.” But on the other hand, she wanted to once again feel the excitement of voting in person, on Election Day.
“This year 2012 held new significance … my last year ever to vote in a presidential election. I wanted to feel part of this great privilege, wanted to again walk out of my precinct tapping my Georgia Peach voter sticker. Even if the day were dark, gloomy and cold, the sun would be shining.”
But “government intrusion stripped me of my established legal right to vote in 2012 unless I complied with new restriction laws…. I will vote in person on Nov. 6 but my spirit is broken. Trust in the government of my adopted state is shattered, a cruel joke.”
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
November 4th, 2012
8:48 pm
Obama.
cnn has them tied.
getalife
November 4th, 2012
8:51 pm
Gallup corrected to a tie.
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
8:53 pm
cnn has them tied.
So, CNN is into bondage now? Isn’t that a GOP operative with the party credit card kinda thing?
RF
November 4th, 2012
9:02 pm
“Talking like that will get you anything you want!! He’s IN josef!!”
I’ll just have to go now and get my nails did…
getalife
November 4th, 2012
9:04 pm
Bro,
cnn works closely with the gop so bondage and strip clubs get a lot of business
RF
November 4th, 2012
9:04 pm
“Isn’t that a GOP operative with the party credit card kinda thing?”
Shhhhhh, they don’t like you talking about it or they’ll have to take back the invite to the “conference” in Vegas…
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
9:10 pm
getalife & RF
Brosephus™
November 4th, 2012
9:10 pm
Y’all have fun… It’s lights out time here.
Josef
November 4th, 2012
9:13 pm
K’chak
THANKS!! I’ll learn that since that particular thing drives me up the fr*kkin wall!!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
November 4th, 2012
9:16 pm
Goodnight all!! Debbie and the boa are turning in for the night. C U guys tomorrow!
Same bat time.
Same bat channel
Same bat sh##t crazy people!
getalife
November 4th, 2012
9:17 pm
“The final PEW poll has Pres. Obama at 50%, Romney stuck at 47%.
Poetic justice! 47%” HP.
moonbat betty
November 4th, 2012
9:27 pm
Polls show that liberals prefer hotdogs over hamburgers by a 3 to 1 margin.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
9:31 pm
Polls show that Kamchak prefers brunettes over blondes by a 20 to 1 margin
Does Zjay only have radical lefts agreeing to his BS?
November 4th, 2012
9:38 pm
Looking forward to the results on Tuesday!!!! Who with a normal brain wants 4 more years of this administration?
getalife
November 4th, 2012
9:40 pm
“Who with a normal brain wants 4 more years of this administration?”
Four more years!
Be a better sore loser this time.
I know you can do it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
9:43 pm
Why would a normal brained person want to go back to Republican rule?
Does Zjay only have radical lefts agreeing to his BS?
November 4th, 2012
9:44 pm
getalife?
Eating Doritos I presume?
Does Zjay only have radical lefts agreeing to his BS?
November 4th, 2012
9:48 pm
Hey Kamchuck?
Easy if you want more out of your life than sitting in a cube working for someone! Have some initiative?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 4th, 2012
9:54 pm
Easy if you want more out of your life than sitting in a cube working for someone! Have some initiative?
I’m self-employed, sportshoe.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Eating brains, I presume.
getalife
November 4th, 2012
9:56 pm
“Eating Doritos I presume?”
No.
Mary Elizabeth
November 4th, 2012
10:00 pm
Note to GMare -
Holding you in my thoughts and prayers tomorrow. Hang tough and think positive!
RF
November 4th, 2012
10:03 pm
Nighty-night kiddies. Alex Wagner is doing “The Last Word” tonight on MSNBC. I soooo like that fiery little gal!!! See y’all on the verandah tomorrow evenin’.
Old Goober
November 4th, 2012
10:11 pm
So how about it, West Virginia? You up for four more years of the domestic energy hater?
I went to college in West Virginia’s Kanawha Valley, close to the Kanawha River. Often, you could not see the sun until 1 p.m. because of the smog. You could not eat the fish you caught because they were loaded up with mercury. I won’t even mention the paint-stripping quality of the air. All these were effects of the coal-fired power plants in the area. Until you’ve lived there and experienced the effects of burning coal, I suggest you stop crying out to West Virginians for a relaxation of the environmental regulations now in effect. You and the shills who put on the ads boasting of “clean coal” seem to have little concern for the health and lives of West Virginians. Profit seems to be the only concern for too many industrialists and their minions.
Gmare
November 4th, 2012
10:26 pm
Thanks, Mary Elizabeth. Must say this is becoming a very LONG evening, in large part because there is a no alcohol rule for 24 hrs prior to surgery. SIGH!
Mary Elizabeth
November 4th, 2012
10:35 pm
Well, I’ll just have to have a Malbec for you this evening, Gmare, and I’ll toast to your successful surgery when I do. Just think how much you’re going to enjoy your next Chardonnay when you get back home. Remember: “No pain, no gain!” Blessings to you. Goodnight, my friend, and pleasant dreams. Be thinking of you in the a.m.
Cloudodust
November 4th, 2012
10:41 pm
See we’re still at it here. Go Vols, Go Romney…
Gmare
November 4th, 2012
10:46 pm
Mary Elizabeth, was it you who said you are having a root canal tomorrow? If so, good luck with that.
St Simons
November 4th, 2012
10:46 pm
Colin Powell ad is DEVASTATING, on Fla & Ohio teevee.
doink, checkmate.
Cloudodust
November 4th, 2012
10:50 pm
Stick’n w/ my assessment. I’ve a son, gay, that voted Obama. A One issue man is he. He wants to be a label. I failed…I’ve a daughter that wishes to stand on her own two feet and voted Romney, a success am I…
getalife
November 4th, 2012
10:56 pm
mitt will lose as predicted.
Our country will survive another four years.
Thank God.
St Simons
November 4th, 2012
11:04 pm
Democrats are waiting 7 hours to vote down here across the state line
Rick the D*k is at 25%, so he is trying to stop them.
He knows he & his holy rollers are gone in ‘14
So he’s scorching the earth on his way down.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
5:53 am
No right to vote even in the Amendments. Read Bush v. Gore
Yep, there’s a SCROTUS decision that’ll be hailed for centuries to come I’m sure.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
6:22 am
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you, Nate
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/state-and-national-polls-come-into-better-alignment/#more-37179
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 5th, 2012
6:54 am
UsinUk,
Good Morning! I just posted your 0622 site on my face Book page. Thank you. Keep up the good work!
Mick
November 5th, 2012
7:14 am
Yes, I think the repubs have shot themselves in the foot here in sunny florida, they loaded up the ballot with 11 referendums and the ballot is 10 pages long! I waited three hours to vote saturday, but surely it will take repub voters just as long to get through it. It’s a despicable tactic along with rick “the disaster” scott refusing more time to vote, it will probably cost the repubs florida…
St Simons
November 5th, 2012
7:18 am
ROMNEY DID NOT PAY 100 MILLION IN TAXES
This morning, investigative reporters at a quality Dutch newspaper, De Volkskrant, published a story that Mitt Romney avoided $100 million in dividend taxes using a complex route that ran through The Netherlands. The mechanism used an arcane clause in the tax treaties that determine which country can tax which type of income when a construction, in this case a private equity fund, runs through multiple countries. Some of the data came from legal documents filed with the Dutch Chamber of Commerce. The reporters repeatedly asked Romney to comment on the story but he refused.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
7:22 am
Remember Remember the 5th of November
Gunpowder Treason and Plot!
I see no reason why Gunpowder Treason
Should ever be forgot
Happy Guy Fawkes Day!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Day
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
7:22 am
And a very happy birthday to my dad who is still rockin it at 86.
MadMax
November 5th, 2012
7:22 am
A great story Jay. But isn’t government the answer for every ill that befalls us? Ian’t government the most efficient and expeditious solution to every real and percieved threat. And as you mention in your story, is that the best you can do? You want to throw the baby out with the bath water because you don’t agree with the law. We have somewhere between 12 -20 million people who are in this country illegally and you get upset about Peggy and not about the inefficiency iof government. But in the same breath, you tell us not to worry about government run health care. There will be no death panel but when you put bureaucrats in positions like this, things happen and you get “Peggys” (exceptions that should not happen but do.
St Simons
November 5th, 2012
7:25 am
One of these things must be true –
Obama is sooo awesome he gained 3-7 points in 3 days.
Gallup, Pulse, & Mason-Dixon were full o crap for 95% of the time.
heheh
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
7:42 am
okay, this has me absolutely crying laughing today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2TcvKyKzIw
(yep. this kid’s gonna need counseling)
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 5th, 2012
7:48 am
St Simons,
I feel noe like I did when i went to bed last night with the Falcon game still going on. I felt that if the game went as planned the Falcons would win, but I felt that little bit of trepidation, too. I’m sure that I will feel the same way tuesday night too. President Obama should win, but still I worry some.
______________
Now…I am a long time Bookmaniac here, but one who has decided to change his persona. Got tired of the other. My new persona represents a place and a name near and dear to me. My catchphrase represents my all time favorite musical group…just thought you’d like to know you are not dealing with a stranger…just someone forever strange…
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
7:56 am
Obama is sooo awesome he gained 3-7 points in 3 days.
Those highly respected national pollsters gotta put food on their families too.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:03 am
dB – is our children learning?
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:05 am
UnU, I think that kid in the video @ 7.42 has learned all he needs to know.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:05 am
But isn’t government the answer for every ill that befalls us?
Straw man! Getcher straw man here!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:08 am
“But isn’t government the answer for every ill that befalls us?”
yep … when I can’t reach something on the high shelf, I call gummint!
big hairy spider in my bathroom? gummint!
not sure what to watch on a Sunday night?? GUMMINT! (especially a problem now that Downton just finished last night)
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:08 am
Speaking of nutty, counterproductive anti-government foolishness, I really gotta read this guy’s book.
He appeared on On the Media this weekend and had a great bit on why we Americans have such crappy Internet connections (most of us probably don’t know just how horrible ours compares to most of the rest of the industrialized world).
http://www.onthemedia.org/2012/nov/02/americas-lagging-internet/
Put short, it’s because we’ve allowed the “free market” to screw us.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 5th, 2012
8:09 am
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:05 am
Yes, I agree…disgression being the better part of valor, and all that.
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
8:09 am
Good morning, gang.
The big carnival wraps up tomorrow!
Hallelujah!
For Corbin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTHoKEd-Gjo
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:18 am
Hallelujah!
Hallelujah, Hare Krishna, it’s all good. “But it takes so long, my Lord.”
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
8:19 am
Straw man! Getcher straw man here!
Wait until tomorrow. There’s a new straw man coming out that has the kung-fu grip and flame retardent straw. You can set fire to that mofo for days before he burns down.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:22 am
aw heck. Let’s have a more upbeat (and earlier) version of that Harrisong…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mabaEff0s-E
Billy absolutely rocks it, if you’ve never heard his studio take (and I hadn’t, until just now.)
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
8:24 am
Put short, it’s because we’ve allowed the “free market” to screw us.
America, the home of the invisible hand job….
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:26 am
without the happy ending.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:27 am
“America, the home of the invisible hand job….”
without any kind of “happy ending”
Paul
November 5th, 2012
8:27 am
Happy Birthday to Daddy USinUK!
St Simons
“ROMNEY DID NOT PAY 100 MILLION IN TAXES”
Legally. One would think at least one Democratic Congressman would introduce legislation to close the loophole. But… Congress put it there, didn’t they?
______________________________________________________________
Light a candle, put on sackcloth and ashes, do whatever it is you do: Texas is going to elect another whacko Tea Party senator.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:27 am
dB – curses!! I owe you a coke
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:28 am
Hiya Paul!!!!
Thanks for the dadkins birthday wishes
independent thinker
November 5th, 2012
8:28 am
Simple solution is to have a national id card for government benefits and voting like other countries. But the cons howl about this solution because it smacks of big government allegedly intruding on their precious rights. How pathetic.
what Jay is describing above is clearly an attempt to get around the Voting Rights Act. How about a poll tax next?
Lord Help Us
November 5th, 2012
8:29 am
One thing is for sure, with people like Nate Silver putting Obama at 86% chance of winning and across the GOP people picking Romney to winn 300+ electoral votes…the party in denial and living in an alternate reality will definitely be exposed…
indigo
November 5th, 2012
8:29 am
Stands – 6:52
That is true. It’s also true that, with each passing year, whites get closer to NOT being the majority.
Since many whites already vote Democrat, it’s just a matter of time till the Republicans start singing a different tune.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 5th, 2012
8:30 am
If O gets 300 electoral votes I think we can call that a mandate.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:31 am
“If O gets 300 electoral votes I think we can call that a mandate.”
until candidates can get more than 60% of the pop vote, I don’t think that’s a fair statement.
Brosephus™
November 5th, 2012
8:33 am
USinner & dB
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:34 am
Ok, that was a little… scary? no, that’s not the right word.
Misty Fyed
November 5th, 2012
8:35 am
OMG>…I had to show a library card to check out a book….Cant they just trust me? Can Jay write an article about that? This demands action. ‘They are suppressing my right to read a book. Of course I could just get a library card.
Paul
November 5th, 2012
8:36 am
St Simons
Was there a link to the article? If Romney avoided $100 million in dividend taxes, that meant he’d have had income of two-thirds of a billion dollars.
Numbers seem kinda funny -
fair and balanced
November 5th, 2012
8:37 am
Okay so people in NY and NJ are really suffering badly and need help. So left wing NBC and MSNBC hastily put on a one hour concert to raise private money for the Red Cross Friday Night and the President similarly mentioned the need to provide private assistance in his campaign speeches . So where was the response of the cons who espouse small government and private initiatives?????????? I did not see a Fox News telethon or hear Grover, Hannity, Boortz, Limbaugh , O’ReillyCoulter and the other right wing mouthpieces donating and promoting private aide. Why is that???????????????????????????????????
I would expect Romney, Grover, Trump, Adelson and Karl could easily raise enough from those Repub gizillionairres to house the 40,000 homeles in NY and NJ for a few months.In fact W. could have don that Friday while talking about offshore investing Friday in the Caymans behind sealed doors. Shame on you cons.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 5th, 2012
8:37 am
I figure the election will be called for President Obama in 39 hours.
Paul
November 5th, 2012
8:37 am
USinUK
Celebrated my dad’s 88th a bit ago. Still works every day. Hope I got those genes!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:37 am
“I had to show a library card to check out a book”
wow.
I didn’t know we had a constitutional right to check out books from the library …
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:38 am
I had to show a library card to check out a book…
Does this latecomer win the “sh-ttiest argument against” award?
Paul
November 5th, 2012
8:39 am
Mysty Fyed
By your analogy, one can vote simply by showing up. No registration, no name on the rolls, no nothing.
I know, I know… some of these ‘but what about” statements are really, really popular on talk shows. Which ought to be a big, red, flag -
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 5th, 2012
8:40 am
Jamvet at 0809,
Well done.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:40 am
“Celebrated my dad’s 88th a bit ago. Still works every day. Hope I got those genes!”
yay! that’s awesome.
My dad’s showing his age – it was a complicated visit a couple of weeks ago – hard to see this man who is my bedrock lose his short-term memory and not be able to follow what’s going on when the entire (loud) family is all in the same room together.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:41 am
“Does this latecomer win the “sh-ttiest argument against” award?”
not really, but I think she does earn an honorable mention.
indigo
November 5th, 2012
8:44 am
Those in positions of power seek to take advantage of those below them.
This is a trademark of Big Business and The Republican Party. All their propaganda and lies can’t mask this to those who refuse to be brainwashed.
Which catagory are you in?
Does Zjay only have radical lefts agreeing to his BS?
November 5th, 2012
8:44 am
Hey McCool!
My friend a business owner with 100 employees has reminded his employees this past Friday that if Obama wins, he shuts his company down. He has the money, he doesn’t need any more. Sad for his employees. The demands that the Fed gov will be placing on his co based on his accountants comments. Hope for those employees!
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
8:44 am
“I had to show a library card to check out a book”
Did you have to show your birth certificate and prove you were a US cititzen to get that library card?
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
8:46 am
Any of you who are still undecided, please don’t vote. If after four years you don’t know what Obama will do then you are too ignorant to vote.
stands for decibels
November 5th, 2012
8:47 am
Butthurt over Benghazi SHEETZ.
Lord Help Us
November 5th, 2012
8:47 am
‘My friend a business owner with 100 employees has reminded his employees this past Friday that if Obama wins, he shuts his company down.’
Your friend is an ashole.
Cosby
November 5th, 2012
8:47 am
So why do I need three forms of ID to “RENEW” my drivers license. Lets see, no ID, you acan vote and vote often..to drive after having a Georgia license over 40 years I need to prove who the hekll I am…yep…makes sense..Your government at work
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:47 am
“Did you have to show your birth certificate and prove you were a US cititzen to get that library card?”
and a marriage certificate if your name changed?
and recent utility bills to prove that you do, in fact, live where you say you do.
indigo
November 5th, 2012
8:47 am
USinUK
I lost my Aunt and Mother to dementia. It’s a very cruel disease and, you just have to be strong and live thru the hurt as best you can.
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
8:48 am
Rock on ex-pat and family!
My mom turns 87 next week and she is fit as a fiddle! Though that is exactly why I made the effort to spend time with her twice this year. (Nebraska ain’t exactly around the proverbial corner!)
Misty, who are you trying to fool? YOU and a library card??? (grin)
Corbin, they’re one of my faves, too. Saw them a couple of years ago for the first time and only then did I realize just what a rock god Justin Hayward truly is!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3JBYPVlq8
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:48 am
“Your friend is an ashole.”
… who needs to be sued.
Mary Elizabeth
November 5th, 2012
8:48 am
Thank you, Gmare.
Doggone/GA
November 5th, 2012
8:49 am
“So why do I need three forms of ID to “RENEW” my drivers license”
Because you can KILL people with your car if you’re a lousy, untested, untrained driver. Voting, not so much.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 5th, 2012
8:50 am
All this worry about ID and the GOP Governor of New Jersey Chris Christie has opened up voting by e-mail and fax.
GOP just cracks me up!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
November 5th, 2012
8:50 am
“I lost my Aunt and Mother to dementia. It’s a very cruel disease and, you just have to be strong and live thru the hurt as best you can.”
Indigo –
I am sooooo sorry to hear that!! I can’t imagine how horrible that is. fortunately, this has more to do with age than dementia. He knows who he is, who we are, where we’re going, etc … just can’t remember where I said I’m going to have dinner tonight or how I’m going to get from Atlanta to Washington (he thought I was going to drive when I told him 10 min before that I was going to return the car at Hartsfield when I fly to DC).
It’s not Alzheimers … it’s OldTimers.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
8:51 am
“Did you have to show your birth certificate and prove you were a US cititzen to get that library card?”
A rather uninformed comment. I was required to show a photo ID plus the name of a personal reference to get a card here where I live.
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
9:04 am
Over the week end the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal both editorialized their criticism of president Obama for his lack of candor about Benghazi. I guess Jay would label these two prominent sources of news as “Hysterical”. Anyone who thinks that this administration will be honest about their failures after the election is out of touch with common sense. This administration still hasn’t come clean with the truth about “fast and furious.” The president’s commission he appointed to invesigate himself will conclude the administration didn’t do anything wrong and will distort, lie, obfiscate and conceal the truth while ignoring the facts.
JamVet
November 5th, 2012
9:11 am
My apologies to all concerned for my ungallant 8:50…
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
9:13 am
It has been a week now and the misery from hurricane Sandy continues unabated for millions. I saw an elderly lady begging the president with dozens in agreement, saying, “Mr. President please, we need help, we are dying. We have had no food, water or help for more than three days.” The administration was completely unprepared to deal with this catastrophe in spite of days of advance notice. FEMA today is less effective than it was under the Bush administration. Demand “Change” so these poor people will have “Hope.”
Mighty Righty
November 5th, 2012
9:29 am
So far, the only effective response to the Sandy catastrophy has not come from the government, although surely it could have. It has not come from FEMA or Homeland Security.. It has not come from Obama. It has, . not come from any liberal organization. It has not come from NBC, CBS, ABC, or CNN. Relief has come from the Red Cross and from the Churches, The very people who the left likes to deomonize for their belief in God and charity toward their fellow man are the ones who have thus far provided food, water, blankets, medicine, shelter and volunteers while the government makes speeches and the media pretends there is no problem. Governor Cuomo wise advice was to tell the victims “don’t worry.” Obama said, “we will stand behind you.” Meanwhile the churches, the Red Cross are actually helping with actions not meaningless words.
Soldier Mom
November 5th, 2012
11:10 am
Does anybody know a way to get an online printable version of the ballot measures for Cherokee county? Having my daughters over tonight to go over the measures so we can all vote (their first time)in the morning. It makes the lines go faster if you have your ducks in a row. I have not been able to find one – weird.
Does Zjay only have radical lefts agreeing to his BS?
November 5th, 2012
12:17 pm
Hey “Lord help us” and US in UK!
Love when uninformed responders use the idea of profanity or lawsuit when a comment comes over that they are not happy with! Lord help us comment and you used a expression of profanity – interesting! US in UK thinks my friend should be sued for shutting his company down in Obama wins. Just read the facts about how Uncle Sam is putting the screws to small business! At what point do folks realize that if a biz owner doesn’t make the $ they need because of ridicules mandats, why would any business owner stay open!
He hates it for his employees, but he is not choosing this. Obama’s administration is!
Garden Diva
November 5th, 2012
12:33 pm
Jay,
Re: “evidence” of voter fraud – you don’t know what you don’t know. In other words, voter fraud, like other types of fraud, if done well, might not be identifiable.