Last pre-election jobs numbers look solid, encouraging
The final jobs numbers of the election season, released just before the final weekend of the election season, show that “Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 171,000 in October, and the unemployment rate was essentially unchanged at 7.9 percent,” according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
That job growth is slightly higher than the 2012 average growth of 157,000 per month.
Adding to the optimism, August job growth was revised upward from the reported 142,000 to the more current 192,000, and job growth for September was also revised upward from 114,000 to 148,000.
– Jay Bookman
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Morality?
November 2nd, 2012
11:31 am
Dead beat dads……. plenty of dead beat mamas out there too – unfortunately. I’m taking care of two beautiful children now that were abandoned by their dead beat, drug addict mama…. And to think we have a Prez that “experimented with croakcaine. Could he be “experimenting” while in office? Perhaps this is the explanation for Obama’s strange behavior in his 1st debate? Can we have random drug testing for the Prez?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:31 am
LORD @ 9:49
Fox does all those things you suggest there is no denying that…this is the standard for all biased journalists these days…have you not noticed..
Please keep putting words in my mouth…i guess you overlook my very consistent commentary on gay rights, abortion rights and the like…
If you are pre-occupied in an effort to define my politics as a parry to posts on other subjects…have fun with that:-)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:31 am
… but conservatives – unlike leftists – are not sycophants.
We will be greeted as liberators.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
I see last month’s Fox News job truthers are humming the opposite tune this month.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
… but conservatives – unlike leftists – are not sycophants.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself.
Morality?
November 2nd, 2012
11:32 am
BDZFO – BRAIN DEAD ZOMIBIES FOR OBAMA
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:33 am
DANNYX @ 10:35
Do you assign any credibility to any pollsters who don’t suggest BO is favored? Just asking..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:33 am
… but conservatives – unlike leftists – are not sycophants.
Yellow cake uranium from Niger.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
11:35 am
And to think we have a Prez that “experimented with croakcaine. Could he be “experimenting” while in office?
Naw George Bush has BEEN out of office. Catch up with the times……..
alex
November 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
let’s see reasonable (read mediocre) people: unemployment drops from 8% to 7.8% and things sre great , happy days are here again…goes to 7.9% and the report is SOLID, hmmmm. Mired in mediocrity, we chose the same; not reasonable in my world, should not be in yours or your CHILDRENS..
Bloomberg comes out for OBAMA…let’s all run the NYC marathon, I have been thru a hurracaine, no time to run a marathon, well at least we cannot get a large soda for the race, Shhhesh
Steve-USA
November 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
Still pretty weak numbers, although they are going in the right direction. I agree with Warren B. in that these numbers will continue to improve no matter who is elected on Tuesday.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:36 am
KAMCHAK
The Iraqi claim was complete BS which was solidly classified as an embarrassment when the Russia and china got most of the oil rights.
I do want to point out that we will see equally ridiculous promises (it will save money of pay for itself) about the HC bill…the government will never be able to squeeze payment to providers or actually cut other waste in the system….guess we will see but money will as usual change hands and the politicos will go easy on the cuts..
Regnad Kcin
November 2nd, 2012
11:37 am
When the unemployment rate goes up, cons say, “BAD!!!! This proves Obama’s an evil Kenyan socialist!!!”
When the unemployment rate goes down, cons say, “BAD!!!! People left the workforce!!! This proves Obama’s an evil Kenyan socialist!!!”
And some say cons aren’t consistent…
mm
November 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
“Astute people by now should know to take anything presented by the corrupt liberal msm and its hacks with a grain of salt.”
I am really sick of the cons calling the MSM liberal. They have let Mitt lie for 2 years and very seldom call him out.
alex
November 2nd, 2012
11:38 am
Oh, I forgot, OBAMA is serious about climate change…..
Bloomberg
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Stevie Ray,
I believe that if the election were to be held today president Obama would win. And since the election is only four days from today, I think he will win then too.
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
“Do you assign any credibility to any pollsters who don’t suggest BO is favored?”
I can’t really answer that, there aren’t any left.
appleseed
November 2nd, 2012
11:39 am
Turning away non union workers(if that happend)during a catastrophe,would be comparable to republican congress trying to make Obama a one term president during this recession.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
STEVE-USA
100% concur…those who thing trickle down government or trickle down theory affect these numbers in any meaningful way would do well to try to establish credible outcomes with such..
The economy is recovering despite what BO has done or Romney will do and it will continue on that path…how the number went up and BO supporters are hailing the chief and think this legitimizes his policies are simply blue sheep..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
I do want to point out that we will see equally ridiculous promises (it will save money of pay for itself) about the HC bill…
Yeah, because invading a foreign country that didn’t attack us is EXACTLY THE SAME as trying to provide healthcare for the citizens of this country.
Mighty Righty
November 2nd, 2012
11:40 am
Jay, you missed your calling. Instead of working for peanuts as an insignificant columnist for a second rate, dying newspaper you could have made a fortune as a late night comedian. In September with the “reported” unemployment rate drop a couple of points you reported it was sign of a big improvement in the economy, while this months report is an increase odf a similar amount in the unemployment rate is “unchanged”. While you continue to hide news about Benghazi, the scandal mounts. Catherine Herridge may very well get a Pultizer for reporting this scandal while the “don’t ask don’t tell” left pretends americans did not die as the result if the presidents inaction. The scandal includes the fawning left wing media who in my opinion are traitors to the principals on which this country was founded. Meanwhile, millions of people in New Jersey ansd New York are starving with out electricity and gasoline. Obama’s useless photo ops are over and very little is being accomplished at the federal level.
paulo977
November 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
Also what the Brits think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/nov/02/us-economy-171000-jobs-obama
Splavistic
November 2nd, 2012
11:41 am
What I STILL don’t understand is how an Evangelical Christian can let themselves vote for a Mormon. They may be de-listed as a cult on Graham’s site, but they still rank as one on CARM.
http://carm.org/joseph-smith-quotes
If Obama was a Mormon, they’d skewer him on Fox “News”.
Rightwing Troll
November 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
“Newt Gingrich will appear at a New American Energy Opportunity Foundation “Gas Can Man” event taking place at the Pentagon Liberty Store at 2300 Columbia Pike tomorrow [Nov 2] from 7:00 AM to 9:00 AM. Drivers will be provided with $1.84 a gallon gasoline “to dramatically show voters what life was like before President Obama imposed onerous restrictions on domestic oil and gas exploration that resulted in soaring gas prices,” according to NAEOF spokesman Joe DeSantis.”
Why not go back 6 months and sell that gasoline at the price from JULY 2008??? Hmmm…..????!??
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
11:43 am
I’m beginning to think that the permanent personal hard on that Righty has for Jay looks suspiciously and exactly like the permanent personal hard on that Joseph has.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm…
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
Look — it’s GWB out campaigning for Romney this week:
["'Blackout' imposed as George W. Bush speaks at Cayman Islands investment conference"]
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/02/14875519-blackout-imposed-as-george-w-bush-speaks-at-cayman-islands-investment-conference
LOL– Now that’s the way to really show support for Romney!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:45 am
KAMCHAK
Don’t move the goalposts..my comment is that very few of the fiscal promises, regardless of type, that involve exceptional numbers never materialize….comparing wars (which I didn’t support..im a true pacifist) to HC bill as a response make zero sense to me…
Rightwing Troll
November 2nd, 2012
11:46 am
http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/07/gas-prices-1.html
RECORD HIGHS wingnuts… you own it, even if you don’t want to acknowledge the TRUTH… Which is the whole reason gas prices were so low in Jan 2008 was because of W’s complete decimation of our economy.
Welcome to the Occupation
November 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
Mighty Righty: “While you continue to hide news about Benghazi, the scandal mounts.”
No evidence of any scandal here, Mighty Righty, just the hue and cry of people like you who desperately want one, and need one.
Steve-USA
November 2nd, 2012
11:47 am
“Also what the Brits think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Who cares what the Brits think in between bowing to the Monarch?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
….comparing wars (which I didn’t support..im a true pacifist) to HC bill as a response make zero sense to me…
And yet, you did it anyway.
But you seem to be unable to own that, sport.
H. E. Pennypacker
November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
Rags,
No weeping, but for your biased view of the collapse blaming the CRA and Fannie and Freddie in an attempt to paint the bubble as the fault of people interfering with free markets and those silly poor people.
I was an investment banker for 10 years up until 2000 and saw the creation of many financial instruments designed for no other reason other than to avoid taxes, accounting rules and regulations, and to generate huge fees.
Securitizations allowed financial institutions to originate mortgages and have no reciprocity to the risk involved. With the help of complicit rating agencies, that created a huge demand for mortgages of all types and banks like WAMU, Wachovia, Citi, and others reduced lending standards and provide mortgages to people that could not afford them. When people realized they could not afford the payments, they created instruments that had teaser rates that would increase their rates and payments in the future to induce them to come back in and refinance and generate another large fee. All in the interest of pumping more volume through the system and paying obscene near-term bonuses to those in structured finance.
The lack of regulation was the cause, not too much government.
Let’s look at the lack of material refinancings to help dampen the disaster…..well these instruments were sold off into securities with multiple tranches and serviced by banks who no longer had skin in the game. The servicers financial incentives were to keep the portfolio current so foreclosure helped them, yet resulted in no losses to their books. Looking at the investors, an interest rate reduction would have hit all tranches equally, so if you were in the top tiers, where defaults hit you last, your motivation was not to allow a reduction as it would impact your ongoing revenue, while a straight foreclosure would miss your tranche and only hit those at the bottom tiers. Once again, the free market allowed unregulated financial instruments to hurt the economic recovery.
Fannie and Freddies complicity in this all is generally isolated to their role as a large consumer of these securitized instruments, thus increasing the demand for loan originators to provide mortgages, fueling the growing bubble.
I will agree with you on BASEL II, the fact that regulators allowed more creative ways to reduce capital in our financial insitutions was folly and thank goodness the U.S. had minimal exposure to the new rule or TARP would have been much larger. European banks remain less strong in part due to their subscribing to BASEL II and the folly that bank markets regulate themselves.
I have to run and I suspect that over a beer we might actually find a few things we agree upon, like the benefit of a free market, but recent market history has proven a free market must be balanced with appropriate oversight.
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
Splavistic @ 11:41,
I believe it is simply because the average W.A.S.P. will do anything to prevent a Black Man another term at President. And I agree, the Mormon “faith” is strange, indeed.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
11:48 am
Las Vegas Review-Journal Destroys Obama
In one of the most blistering denunciations of Barack Obama ever penned, the Las Vegas Review Journal published an editorial today that excoriated Obama not only for his ineptitude in the Benghazi attack, but also his duplicity afterward and the cooperation of a supine press:
The Obama administration sat by doing nothing for seven hours that night, ignoring calls to dispatch help from our bases in Italy, less than two hours away. It has spent the past seven weeks stretching the story out, engaging in misdirection and deception involving supposed indigenous outrage over an obscure anti-Muslim video, confident that with the aid of a docile press corps this infamous climax to four years of misguided foreign policy can be swept under the rug, at least until after Tuesday’s election … The official explanation for why Obama administration officials watched the attack unfold for seven hours, refusing repeated requests to send the air support and relief forces that sat less than two hours away in Italy? Silence.
The RJ also charged Obama with impotence as he flew off to Las Vegas instead of dealing with the attack.
Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America’s reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?
The RJ pulled no punches about the Obama Administration‘s efforts to destroy our economy and accused Obama of continually flat-out lying to the American people.
This administration is an embarrassment on foreign policy and incompetent at best on the economy – though a more careful analysis shows what can only be a perverse and willful attempt to destroy our prosperity. Back in January 2008, Barack Obama told the editorial board of the San Francisco Chronicle that under his cap-and-trade plan, “If somebody wants to build a coal-fired power plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them.” He added, “Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” It was also in 2008 that Mr. Obama’s future Energy Secretary, Steven Chu, famously said it would be necessary to “figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe” – $9 a gallon.
Yet the president now claims he’s in favor of oil development and pipelines, taking credit for increased oil production on private lands where he’s powerless to block it, after he halted the Keystone XL Pipeline and oversaw a 50 percent reduction in oil leases on public lands.
These behaviors go far beyond “spin.” They amount to a pack of lies.
The RJ concluded:
To return to office a narcissistic amateur who seeks to ride this nation’s economy and international esteem to oblivion, like Slim Pickens riding the nuclear bomb to its target at the end of the movie “Dr. Strangelove,” would be disastrous. Candidate Obama said if he couldn’t fix the economy in four years, his would be a one-term presidency.
Mitt Romney is moral, capable and responsible man. Just this once, it’s time to hold Barack Obama to his word. Maybe we can all do something about that, come Tuesday.
The fiery wrath of proud Americans is back.
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
11:49 am
We have a gop party that do not care if Americans believe them.
It is going to be one sick gop civil war after they lose again.
I look forward to it but if it is a matter of trust, the gop will never win again.
Mighty Righty
November 2nd, 2012
11:49 am
If New York City mayor Bloomberg wanted to help Obama, he would have endorsed Romney. No one outside of the confines of New York City respect the amusing mayor of New York any more than than they respect the retarded Vice President Joe Biden.
curious
November 2nd, 2012
11:49 am
I seem to remember paying over $4/gal for gas in September ‘08. Newt has forgotten that part.
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
““to dramatically show voters what life was like before President Obama imposed onerous restrictions on domestic oil and gas exploration that resulted in soaring gas prices,””
“NEW YORK — U.S. oil output is surging so fast that the United States could soon overtake Saudi Arabia as the world’s biggest producer.”
We are now number 2.
Oct 23, 2012 AP-
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20121024/BUSINESS/310240006/U-S-may-soon-world-s-biggest-oil-producer?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p
Adam
November 2nd, 2012
11:51 am
‘VIRTUAL STANDSTILL’: 171K New Jobs, 170K New Jobless”
I did wonder what new statistic the right wing machine would introduce into the equation when all of the other ones weren’t saying what they wanted…..
curious
November 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
Apparently the Las Vegas Review Journal isn’t a fan of Obama.
Since they have destroyed him, no need to have the election.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
KAMCHAK
I compared fiscal promises regarding, in this example, trillion dollar expenditures…take another look tough guy…
Adam
November 2nd, 2012
11:52 am
let’s see reasonable (read mediocre) people: unemployment drops from 8% to 7.8% and things sre great , happy days are here again
Sorry, but it was 8.3 to 8.1 to 7.8 to 7.9. You act as though a trend makes no difference.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
…take another look tough guy…
Again — but you seem unable to own that, sport.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
11:54 am
R. Danneskjold — “Dear ad @ 11:23, in my 11:27 I was attempting to explain why the “appeal to authority,” so important to leftists, is meaningless to conservatives.”
Ironic troll is ironic.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 2nd, 2012
11:55 am
Whew! I’m sure glad it’s time to eat. I never hardly had time to work in my 5th break of the morning. It’s hard to keep up with what’s going on in the world if you don’t have time to check the news.
I’m just wondering what weirdo band or singer Bookman will come up with to start us on FNM. As for the topic, somebody’s going to get a butt-whomping on Tuesday. We might need to wait a week to learn who won. I hear there’s something like 500,000 absentee ballots to be counted in Ohio and you can’t do that in a few hours. People that think we’re liable to know the winner by 9 or 10 o’clock are in for a suprize.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:56 am
DANNYX
You told what I needed to know from your negative comments regarding Rasmussen…guess you will stay away from that question..
Anyhow, since all of the polls are well within margin of error, and 95 electoral votes are suggested to be uncommitted, it’s silly to boast either way that any of these polls really say anything other than it all depends on voter turnout…
Of course I won’t try to convince you not to take what you are translating to guaranteed a victory for your contestant..
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
11:57 am
Just got this picture off twitter:
https://twitter.com/venice4change/status/263809278878564353/photo/1
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
11:58 am
ADAM
And you chalk this favorable trend up to your contestants policies? Do you think this trend will reverse itself if Romney wins? I’m a UGA alum and I actually bet $100 for UF to beat the spread…best $100 if ever spent..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
11:59 am
I’m a UGA alum and I actually bet $100 for UF to beat the spread…
Shoulda taken the Dawgs and the under.
jconservative
November 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
More good news for Obama and bad news for Romney.
“11/1/2012 NEW YORK (Reuters) – Consumer confidence rose in October to its highest in more than four years as Americans were more upbeat about improvements in the labor market, a private sector report showed on Thursday.
The Conference Board, an industry group, said its index of consumer attitudes gained to 72.2 from a downwardly revised 68.4 in September. It was the highest level since February 2008, though it came in shy of economists’ estimates for 72.5.
September was originally reported as 70.3.”
Morality?
November 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
Obama’s agenda for his 2nd term? Legalizing and taxing illegal drugs. Legalized nation wide lottery to bail out the economy. Appointing more Marxists to the Supreme Court that will legislate from the bench. Outlawing 32 oz soft drinks within the U.S. (except for D.C.) as payback to Bloomberg for his support. Increasing gub’ment jobs. Outlaw free speech from the Pulpit. Double the number of lawyers in Congress (that should put them over 100%). Implant all babies born in the U.S.after 2012 with a gub’ment, big brother tracking device. Triple payments of tax dollars to abortion clinics that surpass Obama’s new quota system as suggested by Planned Parenthood and promote abortions on demand on nationwide public service T V ads. Remove all tax breaks, deductions and non profit status for all who oppose Obama. Outlaw talk radio and Fox T V. Your tax dollars and big gub’ment at work.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
12:00 pm
DIA — “In one of the most blistering denunciations of Barack Obama ever penned, the Las Vegas Review Journal published an editorial today that excoriated Obama not only for his ineptitude in the Benghazi attack, but also his duplicity afterward and the cooperation of a supine press:”
Gawrsh! Conservatives suddenly relying on the Lamestream Media!
What’s next, Yankees in Jawja? (giggling)
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:02 pm
KAMCHAK
What is it you want me to own up to? That your reading comprehension may be askew this fine morning there..?
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
no morals,
Just stop lying con and fins a hobby.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
Obama’s agenda for his 2nd term?
Making everyone get gay married, then forcing y’all to have abortions.
MAC
November 2nd, 2012
12:03 pm
“Obama Faces Voters With Highest Unemployment Of Any Incumbent Since FDR”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
KAMCHAK
Regarding UGA, I didn’t feel that that line should have been anything less than -14…
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
12:04 pm
No one outside of the confines of New York City respect the amusing mayor of New York…
The Blog Emperor has spoken.
So let it be written, so let it be done!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
What is it you want me to own up to?
I don’t “want” you to do anything, sport.
I merely made an observation.
appleseed
November 2nd, 2012
12:05 pm
This blue sheep hopes you are correct.This blue sheep thinks the Feds printing money the reason economy recovering.This blue sheep thinks after Jan.2013 the sheep will hit the fan either Obama or Romney elected.Feds continue printing sheep get further in debt,every dollar printed makes existing dollars worth less.Red Fox or Blue sheep in white house???.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
Whats counterintuitive about the GOP’s stance on abortion and planned parenthood is that planned parenthood prevents more abortions than would be the case if lunatic right of GOP gets it’s way…
alex
November 2nd, 2012
12:06 pm
regnad(sp?), do you mean Keynesian? Well surelu Obama believes in heavy stimulus packages and yes I do believe that the economy required liquidity in 2008, however we appear to be stagnating now. All this economic theory :hayeck, Schumpeter, is WELL beyond me as it appears to be by everyone in this thread, after all it is the “dismal Science”
Whomever becomes president will have to deal with an unstable world economy and a lessening of overall USA economic power,I’ve got my crystal ball out and all I see is auntie Em
USMC
November 2nd, 2012
12:07 pm
“Last pre-election jobs numbers look solid, encouraging”–JAY BOOKMAN
LOL! Only Jay Bookman and the LEFTWING political operatives could spin an INCREASE in the unemployment rate rising up to 7.9% into:
“SOLID & ENCOURAGING!” LOL!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
Regarding UGA, I didn’t feel that that line should have been anything less than -14…
The line on this week’s game is UGA by 14 and the o/u is 62.
I don’t see us giving up 24 points.
Cosby
November 2nd, 2012
12:08 pm
Again, figures lie and liers figure…do not trust any numbers coming out of DC…just look at the CBO and how many different numbers they have on OBAMA Care…The real number is a lot, and I mean a lot, of money is sitting on the sidelines nervious of what taxes will be implimented, what government Regulations will be implimented. My bet is, if it ends up four more years of marxism you will see so much money taken out of the USA it will make you head spin…And for GM – yes.. they are spending a lot of money in Europe on Opel and yes, according to financial journals are investing in China. Crysler – now belongs to Italy as a gifr from Barry and yes, they are looking to move jobs out of the US as they can build the vehicles cheaper and ship them back than they can build them in the US…thanks to the union…keep thinkg the economy is coming back, vote Obama and see the money disappear. give ‘em hell Barry
Morality?
November 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Guess I have to explain every thing in simple terms for you since you can’t keep up. “W” admitted smoking weed and boozing. Obama admitted smoking weed, croak and “experimenting” with other recreational drugs. Can we have random drug testing for the Prez while he is in office? The security of this country is at stake if he is still “experimenting”.. We should drug test all candidates running for Prez BEFORE they get in office. That is policy for other gub’ment jobs so why is the Prez exempt?
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
12:09 pm
Morality, speaking of embarrassing McCarthyite numbskulls…
The task for Alan West’s campaign managers is daunting because he has said so many phenomenally offensive and factually indefensible things. Every time the man opens his mouth there’s a moment of high drama:
Please, Al, just stick to the script. We’re begging you.
Back in July, appearing as he does with hungry regularity on Fox News, West likened Social Security disability benefits to “a form of modern, 21st-century slavery.”
In one cold-hearted breath, the retired Army colonel managed to insult 828,000 fellow veterans under the age of 66 who report receiving disability funds from Social Security. These include both active-duty and retired military.
West’s lame effort to mop up his mess occurred the following night (again on Fox), and featured his now-standard attack on the liberal media for twisting his words.
The recurring migraine for West’s handlers is that his words don’t require any twisting. They just spill out of his head that way, usually in front of a television camera, allowing them to be painfully replayed over and over.
It’s been a gold mine for West’s young Democratic opponent, Patrick Murphy, whose most effective campaign ads are a running montage of West’s indelible sound bites.
A favorite is his 2011 speech to a conservative women’s group in which he declared that those who support Planned Parenthood “have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness.”
What in the world was West babbling about? Are there mandatory spay clinics for guys?
Who knows what he meant, but it was weirdly fascinating to watch.
He actually went on — and some of this you don’t see in the commercial — to urge his audience “to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient . . . because if you don’t, then the debt will continue to grow . . . deficits will continue to grow.”
Oh, now it all makes perfect sense.
Is West insane? That’s a natural question, but the answer is no. He’s just a fringe gasbag who spices his macho act with a little right-wing paranoia.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/11/02/172904/commentary-rep-allen-west-attempts.html
FOAD, MR. Article 15…
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
“You told what I needed to know from your negative comments regarding Rasmussen…guess you will stay away from that question..”
I won’t stay away from that, Stevie. I like Gallup, however, I don’t like their “likely voter” model, it has not been very accurate the past few elections, in fact their “registered voter” model has done better. I think that will be the case this year.
I like Pew, and I like Quinnipiac. When they showed Romney with a good lead back in the middle of October I thought it meant bad news for Obama. They are no longer showing Romney in the lead. I also think PPP skews to the left a bit.
As far as Rasmussen is concerned I have been predicting for months now that they would show Romney with a good size lead then bring their results closer to the other polls near the end. Right now they are showing Romney tied or in the lead in Ohio, Wisconsin, Colorado, and Iowa, no other pollster sees all of them in the Romney column. I think Rasmussen is a joke.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
Just checkin’ in…
Are the righties still bitchin’ cuz we didn’t clean up their mess fast enough?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
APPLESEED
It is sad that all seem to overlook the fact that several years ago, into GWB Jr’s administration, we had some $800 billion currency in circulation…now we have around $2 trillion…that combined with spending 30% beyond what we get are the most, by far security risks…not terroism, not whatever BS is going on in ME, but our $16 trillion debt which no matter who takes office will climb up to at least $20 trillion in next 4-5 years..The $80 billion a year that would be raised by tax increase on 1%, is already offset by new spending….
Joe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
MAC — “Obama Faces Voters With Highest Unemployment Of Any Incumbent Since FDR”
You left out the part about how FDR got elected four consecutive times, hotshot.
MAC
November 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
If you have to try to “look presidential”, you’re not
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
“Bush Administration and Repubs Create Biggest Economic Disaster Since 1929!”
Adam
November 2nd, 2012
12:11 pm
Did someone say gas prices?
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx
Still going down.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:12 pm
Are the righties still bitchin’ cuz we didn’t clean up their mess fast enough?
In a word?
Yes.
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
12:12 pm
The cons reality bubble is about to pop.
The numbers are moving to President Obama.
Better luck next time cons.
Try living in the real world.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
12:13 pm
JamVet — thanks for that link. Didn’t know Carl Hiassen was writing commentary for McClatchy!
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
12:14 pm
“If you have to try to “look presidential”, you’re not”
Romney thinks he can win just by looking “residential.”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:14 pm
DANNYX
I appreciate that…I’m in the math business and for the life of me can’t figure if registered voters or likely voters is best metric…then you have cell phones and other means that confuse…
Question to me is how many registered voters will actually vote? Or how many likely voter are unlikely to vote?
I do believe that enough electoral votes are up for grabs that either can win…I wonder how late I’m gonna have to stay up Tuesday evening to get an answer…now way i’m buying into that exit voting crap..
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
12:14 pm
I luv me some Carl Hiassen!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
President Faces Voters With Highest Unemployment Of Any Incumbent Since FDR…
drudgey spam
fair and balanced
November 2nd, 2012
12:15 pm
How many jobs have the GOP created during the last four years? How many new jobs has Romney created except for the horse trainer during the last four years? How many American jobs has Bain, Sensata and Delphi shipped off to China while Romney made millions in profits from those companies?
and how much money did the Romneys make that can be traced back to federal auto bailout loans?
Of course we will never know the answer to the last two questions because the King and her Highness decided “we have given you all the information you need”
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
JOE
Didn’t continuity relative to WWII have something to do with FDR’s record term?
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
oe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
12:10 pm
That was very good. bravo!
Aquagirl
November 2nd, 2012
12:16 pm
“W” admitted smoking weed and boozing.
I wish he’d spent more time smoking dope in the WH, maybe we’d have one or two less wars on our tab.
alex
November 2nd, 2012
12:17 pm
@ adam What are you babbling about: let’s see another example of APS education: 7.9 is greater than 7.8%, now it is true that 7.9% is less than 8.2% , BUT the 7.9% came AFTER the 7.8% and a higher number (still with me?) means MORE unemployment. I do not see a trend , I see a stable unemployment in the high 7’s. Empiric observation without the determination of the correlation coefficient or standard deviation…..Sheeesh. NOW ,get back to class….
@Kamchuk : what’s this about “sport”, a “sporting” thug, how unique-very entertaining, please continue….
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
November 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm
FARE&BALANCED
OK, just how many jobs was Romney responsible for offshoring at Bain? BO got a total of 7 pinocchios for three statements toward this end…
I still can’t find a number…you know something the rest of us don’t?
USMC
November 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm
“Did someone say gas prices? http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx
Still going down.”–ADAM
LOL! The un-intelligent and naive Leftwing sheeple are the most gullible!
Obama and his rich oil buddies raise the price of gas from $1.87 per gallon to $4 per gallon, but when election time comes around they drop it a few schillings ($3.50/gal) to make the useless idiots “FEEL GOOD”.
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm
“How many jobs have the GOP created during the last four years?”
I know, I know — teacher pick me!
Taipei Personality
November 2nd, 2012
12:18 pm
The election comes down to this…Democrats are expecting equal or better turnout than in 2008. Won’t happen, economy just not doing well enough to expect that. GOP is expecting equal or better turnout than in 2010. That won’t happen either, Romney is just not conservative enough to get that much enthusiasm. Early voting usually favors Dems, but lots of reports that GOP is showing up early too. I expect polling locations to be steady but not crazy on Tuesday. The election is coming down to Ohio. I foresee Obama leading 263 to 253, with Ohio going undetermined for several days if not weeks due to voting machine and absentee ballot issues. Winner gets the spoils. BTW, that also explains why Romney is in PA, he is hedging bets and trying to win next closest (vote, not just geography) state, so that optimistically he could be ahead 273 to 243 and Ohio would not matter. But I don’t see him pulling it off. My hope is that whoever wins takes both EC and popular vote, do not want another 2000!
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
12:19 pm
“I wonder how late I’m gonna have to stay up Tuesday evening to get an answer”
Stevie, we may not be sleeping Tuesday night. I may have to set a results curfew.
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
12:20 pm
President Faces Post-Bush Meltdown/(W)orst Economic GOP Legacy Since Hoover…
Corbin Sharpe. I think, therefore I am...I think.
November 2nd, 2012
12:20 pm
“…Obama and his rich oil buddies…” I guess it IS true that marines are less than stellar thinkers.
Goldie
November 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
And the Cons are heart-broken these days because they wanted so badly for the gas prices to top the $5 mark this year — oh waaahhhh!
Cons why do you hate America so much???
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
November 2nd, 2012
12:21 pm
…what’s this about “sport”, a “sporting” thug, how unique-very entertaining, please continue….
Wonderful, cause when I awoke this morning I said to myself, “Self, what can you do today to entertain alex?”
It’s always gratifying to have confirmation of my accomplishments.
Morality?
November 2nd, 2012
12:22 pm
“Planned Parenthood keeps abortions lower than they would be otherwise.”…….. are you trying to get a laugh? Abortion clinics, run by Planned Parenthood affiliates, are a high profit buzness. More babies die – more money to Planned Parenthood. That is called free enterprise. The Yet Born have no rights in this country. Abortion is discrimination against the Yet Born’s right to live.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 2nd, 2012
12:22 pm
S. Ray — “Didn’t continuity relative to WWII have something to do with FDR’s record term?”
Nope. It’s a popular American myth, though. FDR won his four terms fair and square.
There was talk about *trying* to limit FDR to two terms on the basis that it was somehow ‘traditional’ for Presidents to serve only two terms at most (because of some things Washington, Jefferson and Adams said during their lives), but it wasn’t codified into law until the 22d Amendment was passed in 1947, after FDR had died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
We discussed this a couple of weeks ago; there was disagreement over how long a President could serve, and someone claimed that eight years was the limit. Technically, it’s ten years — you can be elected as President in your own right twice so long as you didn’t inherit the office as VP (due to the death or incapacitation of the President) and serve as Prez for more than 2 years on the dot.
Had Gerald Ford been elected in 1976, he would have been ineligible to run for a second full term, because he served 29 months of Nixon’s second term.
F. Sinkwich
November 2nd, 2012
12:23 pm
Well, it took awhile for O’bozo to bad mouth the Tea Party but he did so today:
““Ruling out compromise by pledging to rubberstamp the Tea Party’s agenda as President -– that’s definitely not change,” Obama said. “In fact, that’s exactly the attitude in Washington that needs to go.””
Tea Party? Are they still out there?
Yup. And they will vote.
St Simons
November 2nd, 2012
12:24 pm
Yes, cons, we’re gonna rub your nose in it.
You’ve certainly pooped on the carpet enough.
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
12:28 pm
The pee party are just cons that call peeing in a cup and giddily handing it to government freedom.