Hard-right heros West, Bachmann and King face a test
Three of the most virulently conservative voices in the House are facing tough re-election campaigns. All three are leading, but not by much, and in two of the races the GOP candidates are attempting to separate themselves from the harsh personas that they themselves had manufactured.
U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Fla.
In Florida, there’s Allen West, who was up by anywhere from one to nine points in October, depending on which poll you believe. As Politico reports:
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“Rep. Allen West’s GOP primary opponent endorsed the controversial Floridian’s Democratic challenger Wednesday and is slamming West.
“As a Republican for over 30 years, I’m embarrassed by the radical fringe that has taken over the party,” Martin County Sheriff Bob Crowder said in a statement released through Democrat Patrick Murphy’s campaign.
“Sadly, Allen West is their poster child, and the hateful, divisive comments he’s made throughout this campaign make it clear to me he’s the wrong choice for our district. I’m endorsing Patrick because he has the right temperament and respect for others – including people he doesn’t agree with. Unlike his opponent, Patrick will be able to work with both parties to make a difference for our community.”
West defeated Crowder in August with almost 75 percent of the vote.”
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In Minnesota, there’s Michele Bachmann, who’s running in a district redrawn to be safe for a Republican. Even with that advantage and a huge campaign treasury, she’s only up by somewhere between two and six points, depending on which October poll you believe. And as the Minneapolis Star-Tribune reports, the previously strident Bachmann has adopted a different strategy for keeping her job, trying to portray herself as moderate, responsible and bipartisan.
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“I’ve worked with Democrats across the aisle to get a lot of things done and it’s important we do that,” Bachmann said (in a Thursday debate). “I’m a very independent person.” She used the debate to tout the times she had bucked her own party, saying “I didn’t believe George Bush … that we were looking at financial Armageddon,” and stressing her work with Democrats on the St. Croix River bridge.”
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And in Iowa, U.S. Rep. Steve King is taking much the same survival tack to hold onto his lead of two to seven percentage points in his newly drawn district:
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“Iowa State University political science professor Steffen Schmidt said the race has proven tighter than expected.
“They’ve both been pretty smart in how they’ve run their campaigns,” Schmidt said.
Schmidt said King has “adjusted his campaign rhetoric somewhat,” and tacked away from far right positions that were popular among voters in the former 5th congressional district.
“He hasn’t really run on that pure, true tea party conservative agenda,” Schmidt said. “That is probably smart, because the district is more complicated now. You’re not going to appeal as much with your hard-core positions on things like illegal immigration to a new bunch of voters in parts of the district who are moderate.”
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In the end, all three GOP candidates may win their races, but the narrowness of their apparent margins and — in the case of Bachmann and King — the necessity to tack back toward the center to stay viable says a lot about the mood of the American voter.
– Jay Bookman
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Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm
“As Ben Dover votes yes for the charter amendment next Tuesday.”
Not even close.
Hope you don’t prognosticate for a living. Else you’ll be dependent on government handouts.
Oh wait………..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 2nd, 2012
3:48 pm
Ben Shockley:
“Liberals are so compassionate…always willing to lend a helping hand to the poor and the downtrodden, as long as they can do it with money confiscated from the top 10%……”
Thank you !
Let’s compare Obama’s and Romney’s actual and percentage contributions to charity again shall we ?
Williebkind
November 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm
“And the answer to that question appears to be “divert, divert, divert…. to the video for days.
josef
November 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm
On topic…
Well, ain’t that sumpin…
ZamVet
When you check in, here’s a surprise
“Americans in Israel Vote GOP
A poll shows that 85 percent of American-Israelis went for Romney”
tabletmagwww..com/jewish-news-and-politics/115491/americans-in-israel-vote-gop?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tabletmag+%28Tablet+Magazine%29
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
3:50 pm
When you cut through all the crap, all the blogs, all the campaign ads, that’s really what it boils down to. A group of people (liberals) who think people who want to spend their own money are selfish and greedy, but people who want to use government force to help themselves to OTHER people’s money are compassionate and righteous.
Paul
November 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm
Keep Up
Yeah, I know. But as JamVet pointed out so long ago, it’s more about the people who peruse these pages who never post -
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:47 pm
clem
November 2nd, 2012
2:46 pm
What’s Obama’s number? He does have a number, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++
Obama’s WHAT number? His DRAFT Number? I KNOW you aren’t so stupid as to ask THAT question are you?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Anybody seen Adam since I asked him if he favors socialism?
They BOTH suck
November 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
Scout
Your God may not see Obama as an evil King. That would be your interpretation.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
josef:
I posted that same article yesterday and it was not well received but since you’re a liberal you should do fine ……………….
In any case:
“NEVER AGAIN !”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
Hey, let’s talk about Mitt’s slimey attempt to run a campaign event as as storm relief event and then to have his campaign buy “donations” to pretend others gave them.
Oh wait, that would be too high a right for Senior Digits.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
reach not right
pete
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
Notice that Jay is not mentioning how dems run the show in NY and NJ. That place is in absolute chaos, but Obama is out campaigning in Vegas while folks in NY and NJ are suffering. I thought you were the party of compassion? Where are the dem leaders of your party hiding at? This goes beyond disgusting, this is absolutely pathetic. You own it dems, you and your asinine policies. It is heartbreaking to watch these people suffer while the pathetic president is out trying to get re-elected. This is sad…absolutely sad. I hope the voters of this country are watching, and will take out their frustration on Tuesday.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 2nd, 2012
3:53 pm
They BOTH suck:
“Your God may not see Obama as an evil King. That would be your interpretation.”
True ………. and yet again He might.
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
Let’s compare Obama’s and Romney’s actual and percentage contributions to charity again shall we ?
Not that it’s particularly germane to any discussion at hand, but that’s impossible, since the latter individual hasn’t released his tax records.
josef
November 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
ZamVet
Ooops… here it is…
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/115491/americans-in-israel-vote-gop
Steve
November 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
It’s a very small segment of NY and NJ that is “suffering.” The President doesn’t swoop in, cape and all, like Superman, and instantly fix the damage from a superstorm that hits the megalopolis. Why aren’t you blaming Christy? The state and local communities are supposed to be the ones to fix the messes, and the Fed govt provides extra money.
Williebkind
November 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
“to admit he’d been taken in by erroneous reporting.”
As I heard on TV Fox news reported what they received from people in the area or associated with the event. The liberal media was showing a video and collaborating with the administration to deceive the American public it was not terrorism but a vile video. Now which media do you prefer?
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
3:52 pm
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:47 pm
clem
November 2nd, 2012
2:46 pm
What’s Obama’s number? He does have a number, right?
++++++++++++++++++++++
Obama’s WHAT number? His DRAFT Number? I KNOW you aren’t so stupid as to ask THAT question are you?
Nope, but, you were stupid enough to respond!
You people don’t do sarcasm very well, do you?
Dunwoody Granny
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
DowninAlbany –
If you’re talking about Obama’s draft number, the draft had ended before he was old enough to be eligible. I was born in 1954, and the last men drafted were about my age. Numbers were drawn for a couple of years after that, but almost certainly not into the ’60s when Obama was born.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
Steve
November 2nd, 2012
3:55 pm
It’s a very small segment of NY and NJ that is “suffering.” The President doesn’t swoop in, cape and all, like Superman, and instantly fix the damage from a superstorm that hits the megalopolis. Why aren’t you blaming Christy? The state and local communities are supposed to be the ones to fix the messes, and the Fed govt provides extra money.
Funny, that’s not how the libs thought Bush should have handled Katrina!
clem
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
down in albany, my guess is that obama has your number.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Paul, agreed.
They BOTH suck
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
josef
That number you cite could very well be true. However it took me all of 30 seconds yesterday to show that the organization which did the polling and bills itself as a “non partisan” org is ran by a Republican Billionaire out of of NYC.
Of course when contacted about their polling, his office refused to comment.
But again, the numbers could be true, but it is interesting to follow the money and it didn’t take long to reveal that the polling organization not what it advertises itself to be.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:57 pm
Dunwoody Granny
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
DowninAlbany –
If you’re talking about Obama’s draft number, the draft had ended before he was old enough to be eligible. I was born in 1954, and the last men drafted were about my age. Numbers were drawn for a couple of years after that, but almost certainly not into the ’60s when Obama was born.
Yup, we have a second bite!
josef
November 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm
SCOUT
I did find that interesting…American Israelis do tend to be more conservative, but not nearly so in such numbers…
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm
clem
November 2nd, 2012
3:56 pm
down in albany, my guess is that obama has your number.
Well, tell him to give me a call. It’s about time for Friday oysters and Corona at The Catch!
Paul
November 2nd, 2012
3:58 pm
Williebekind
Do I have this correct? Some were reporting updates as they developed, as vetted by the CIA, others were reporting an anonymous source and stating they had the highest confidence the source was correct. Those who reported developments continued to do so while the anonymous source was shown to be incorrect.
And you go with the network that sticks by the discredited source? Is that it?
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
3:59 pm
Numbers were drawn for a couple of years after that, but almost certainly not into the ’60s when Obama was born.
We know WHEN he was born, but, my question is…WHERE was he born?
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
You people don’t do sarcasm very well, do you?
Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, that’s fitting for you. However, given the level of stupidity of many of the far right wing fanatical posts, it’s impossible to tell who is being sarcastic and who is actually that stupid.
I mean let’s take you for instance. Aren’t you one of those who seem to think thta Obama was supposed to teleport himself magically to Libya armed with an M60 and go all Rambo on the folks attacking the embassy? Give that thought pattern how is one to know how much more ignorant you could be?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
stands for decibels
November 2nd, 2012
3:54 pm
“Let’s compare Obama’s and Romney’s actual and percentage contributions to charity again shall we ?”
“Not that it’s particularly germane to any discussion at hand, but that’s impossible, since the latter individual hasn’t released his tax records.”
Well, except that he did release his tax records. According to the New York Post;
Romney the giver
The big news from tax returns
By JOHN PODHORETZ
Last Updated: 12:35 AM, September 22, 2012
Posted: 11:23 PM, September 21, 2012
John PodhoretzWe learned yesterday that last year Mitt Romney paid $1.9 million in taxes on an income of $14 million — and gave $4 million to charity.
The year before, he made $21.6 million, paid $3 million in taxes and gave $3 million to charity.
So, to recap: Mitt Romney has, in the past two years, paid almost $5 million in taxes while giving away $7 million. And, as he said, he has paid the taxes he was supposed to pay according to the laws of the United States, which is all that is required — legally, morally and practically — of anyone.
If you’ve been reading my columns for the past couple of years, you know I’m perfectly capable of being critical of Romney. I did so the other day, and radio host Mark Levin called me a “trash-mouther” who was “giving aid and comfort to Obama.”
APWith open arms: Mitt Romney has given $7 million to charity the last two years, while paying $5 million in taxes.But the release of these tax records leaves no doubt about one thing: Mitt Romney is an extraordinarily, remarkably, astonishingly generous man. A good man. Maybe even a great man.
That is all. There is no “but.” Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, stupid or a liar.
It’s important to talk about how charitable deductions work, because there is great confusion about them and their effect on the amount people pay in tax as a result.
You will hear it said, by people who are either ignorant or have an axe to grind, that the charitable deduction is a tax shelter. It is anything but.
Shelters are investments that work to protect money from being taxed by the government. In effect, every dollar in them is put there either so that it can earn money or so that it can be used to lower a person’s tax burden.
Now consider the dollar given to charity. If you’re Mitt Romney, your dollar would be taxed at a rate of 35 percent by the federal government — the highest rate. When you give that dollar to charity, you are, in effect, excused from paying 35 cents of it to the government.
But here’s the key: You don’t get the other 65 cents back.
If you simply kept that dollar for yourself and paid tax on it, you’d still have 65 cents of it in the bank.
By giving that dollar away to charity, you lose that 65 cents entirely. It goes to the charity, as does the 35 cents you’d have paid to the IRS.
It’s likely, given these numbers, that over the past 20 years the Romneys have donated more than $50 million to charity. Do the math: Under current tax law, if he’d kept the money, he’d have $30 million more than he has now. (That’s extremely inexact, but you get the idea.)
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:01 pm
BOTH
That’s why I used the Tablet citation…generally reputable and not so partisan as the other places the poll was cited…
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:02 pm
Maybe stands needs to do some research and stop parroting what he reads at Moveon or DailyKos
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
4:02 pm
Benny. I’ve go treal bad news for you. McCarthyism and the witch hunts died a shameful and horrific death sixty years ago.
Quit trying to breathe life into that Republican corpse. You neocons look like slimy and blithering idiots for doing so.
Speaking of replacing some of the more awful human beings in the US Congress…
Arizona Tea Party Candidate Jeff Flake’s hostile position on Veterans issues has him in the fight of his life. Vietnam Veteran and VoteVets PAC endorsed candidate Richard Carmona, who is tied in the latest polling, and up 45-41 in their internal polling that was released.
Indiana’s Joe Donnelly is starting to pull away from Tea Party candidate, Richard Mourdock, who you recall said pregnancy caused by rape was God’s will.
Another enemy of veterans, Virginia’s George Allen is falling farther and farther behind, in his race against Tim Kaine.
North Dakotans have noted how supportive Heidi Heitkamp has been of Veterans, while her Senate opponent, Rick Berg, has consistently voted against Veterans – even against giving them the right to take Veterans Day off from work!
Missouri’s Claire McCaskill, has always been there for Veterans. Right now, polling is showing her as the favorite in her race against Todd Akin, ranging from a lead of 2 points to 6 points.
Illinois and Hawaii – In some of the most satisfying news, I’m happy to report that both Tammy Duckworth and Tulsi Gabbard, Iraq War Veterans, are running strong races, and if they win, will become the first female combat Veterans ever elected to Congress. Neither race is over, and no one is declaring victory, by any means, but polling does look good. Your support has been crucial to both of them, so I felt it was important to let you know how things were going in their races. Additionally, in Illinois, VoteVets-endorsed Veteran, Bill Enyart is in a neck-and-neck race for Congress, but even a recent Republican-leaning poll showed him up by 5, which is great news!
Go veterans! Throw the cowards out and put more of our own in there!
SPC
November 2nd, 2012
4:02 pm
Everyone needs to start moving to the center.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:03 pm
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:00 pm
You people don’t do sarcasm very well, do you?
Sarcasm is the lowest form of humor, that’s fitting for you. However, given the level of stupidity of many of the far right wing fanatical posts, it’s impossible to tell who is being sarcastic and who is actually that stupid.
I mean let’s take you for instance. Aren’t you one of those who seem to think thta Obama was supposed to teleport himself magically to Libya armed with an M60 and go all Rambo on the folks attacking the embassy? Give that thought pattern how is one to know how much more ignorant you could be?
Nope, I didn’t expect Obama to do anything in Libya, but, it would have helped if he had gotten the hell out of the way and let real men do their jobs! Of course, this coming from sports like you that give Obama credit for killing Bin Laden!
And, just for the record, I don’t believe in teletransportation or that Superman can actually fly.
Woolman
November 2nd, 2012
4:04 pm
If Romney wins and the republicans win control of the senate will you promise to leave the country? I mean, you won’t have anything to write about since your woorthless president and his cronies like harry reid won’t be around. by the way, whatever happened to Nancy Pelosi?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm
Shockley: Maybe stands needs to do some research and stop parroting what he reads at Moveon or DailyKos
That has got to be the funniest post of the day from the guy who posts first without evidence….. hows that evidence of the MARTA bus driver with the $100k salary coming Bennie? YOU doing the research?
They BOTH suck
November 2nd, 2012
4:05 pm
josef
The article ran in tabletmag (new one to me and I will check it out), however they cite the same poll from iVOTEISRAEL that was the same poll cited in the article Scout posted yesterday.
Again the numbers could be spot on, but seeing that the organization bills it self as non-partisan but is ran by a Republican Billionaire who backs Romney and other right leaning causes, it does beg the question.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
We know WHEN he was born, but, my question is…WHERE was he born?
And you are just *joking* again here, right?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
Keep Up…
Nice attempt at deflecting. But I’m sure stands is man enough to own his lies all by himself.
Regnad Kcin
November 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
“Yup, we have a second bite!”
So…
The game is to say something stupid, and see how many times you get called on it? Doesn’t sound like much fun, but it’s amazing how many cons keep playing it. Kids today, Iguess…
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
Anybody seen Adam? I was so looking forward to that debate of the merits of socialism.
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
Matthew 6:1
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
OBL is dead and the 101st Chariborne is pissed.
LOL!
Things would be MUCH better for them if he were still alive.
clem
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
down in albennny, talk about stupid, that’s why i gave you a sarcastic response…..did the flood of ‘94 wet your wick?
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
The Obama administration sat by doing nothing for seven hours that night, ignoring calls to dispatch help from our bases in Italy, less than two hours away. It has spent the past seven weeks stretching the story out, engaging in misdirection and deception involving supposed indigenous outrage over an obscure anti-Muslim video, confident that with the aid of a docile press corps this infamous climax to four years of misguided foreign policy can be swept under the rug, at least until after Tuesday’s election … The official explanation for why Obama administration officials watched the attack unfold for seven hours, refusing repeated requests to send the air support and relief forces that sat less than two hours away in Italy? Silence.
Just for you, Fred
Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America’s reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
“The game is to say something stupid, and see how many times you get called on it?”
You mean like “Romney hasn’t released his tax records?”
Hmmmmmmm
November 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm
@Ben
I doubt it makes a difference to some of these people, but thanks for blogging the obvious!
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm
ALBANY
“it would have helped if he had gotten the hell out of the way and let real men do their jobs!”
And what. pray tell, qualifies one for being a “real man?” I mean, I’ve got an idea what a “real Jew” is, but a “real man?” I’m serious…not being snarky, even though I do understand they can’t eat quiche just like real Jews can’t eat bacon…
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Our President wins Ohio in a new CNN poll by 3.
Recon 0311 2533
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Not a big Peggy Noonan fan but she does a good job of describing the rise and fall of Obama.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204846304578093230088154020.html
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:06 pm
We know WHEN he was born, but, my question is…WHERE was he born?
And you are just *joking* again here, right?
Now you’re catching on. Stay with me, there, Fred!
They BOTH suck
November 2nd, 2012
4:10 pm
josef
Doesn’t beg the question that any given media outlet ran the story, but who did the polling as well as how they advertise themselves.
Apologize if there was any confusion in my earlier post.
I never heard of IVOTEISRAEL and they could be exactly what they say they are, regardless of who is the finance man, but it didn’t take long to reveal some, let’s say……. discrepancies in terms of the organization.
Either way, going to be a tight race. Romney will probably garner more Jewish votes than McCain, however conventional wisdom is not showing a wholesale shift.
Regnad Kcin
November 2nd, 2012
4:11 pm
Ben, socialism is an imaginary form of distribution of goods and services, like capitalism. Neither exists in its “ideal” form – all societies use a mix of the two. Why do you ask?
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
clem
November 2nd, 2012
4:08 pm
down in albennny, talk about stupid, that’s why i gave you a sarcastic response…..did the flood of ‘94 wet your wick?
Nope, but, it did destroy my home and just about everything we owned! No sheet!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Poor Bennie, can’t back his own posts but now wants to demand from others.
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Adam and stands must be in conference
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Just for you, Fred
Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America’s reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?
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What’s for me? Some stupidty spewed on a blog? I don’t need to read your stupidity again. I’ve seen this stupidity for days now as pushed by the right wing chicken hawk radio talkshow hosts.There ya go showing how you think Obama should have teleported himself to Libya with an M60 and gone all Rambo on “those people.”
DannyX
November 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm
“I was so looking forward to that debate of the merits of socialism.”
College football it is great. It takes in a ton of money and allows the government to fund other sports that otherwise wouldn’t survive.
Most people in Georgia love socialism.
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
4:13 pm
obl, most of aq and daffy are dead.
Occupations ending.
mitt and christie endorsed our President with other republicans..
Not the time to change leaders.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
November 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm
polling is showing her as the favorite in her race against Todd Akin
Akin polls better with rapists.
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:14 pm
“Ben, socialism is an imaginary form of distribution of goods and services, like capitalism.”
The money our government takes from me and re-distributes to others it arbitrarily deems more deserving is not “imaginary.”
But thanks for playing.
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
4:15 pm
bs is back.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:15 pm
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:09 pm
ALBANY
“it would have helped if he had gotten the hell out of the way and let real men do their jobs!”
And what. pray tell, qualifies one for being a “real man?”
If I gotta ’splain it to you, you more than likely wouldn’t understand.
But, seriously, why attack my words? Why not face the fact that the administration watched, in REAL time as OUR fellow Americans died unnecessarily! But, you insist on deflecting from the meaning of the post. Incredible dishonesty!
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:15 pm
Keep, if you really want to add value to the blog, draw stands a map about Romney’s tax records, k sweetie?
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
4:16 pm
Bennie, the name changer, is good for one thing, and one thing only.
Targeting for the never-ending whack-a-troll game here!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
November 2nd, 2012
4:16 pm
josef:
“I did find that interesting…American Israelis do tend to be more conservative, but not nearly so in such numbers…”
Seriously, I thought they tended to be more liberal.
P.S. Did you see this ? :
“A Conversation with Bernie Marcus”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TKCwSVH7Bw
Regnad Kcin
November 2nd, 2012
4:16 pm
“The money our government takes from me and re-distributes to others it arbitrarily deems more deserving is not “imaginary.””
Imaginary money, Ben? What are you talking about? Why did you bring up imaginary money?
Make some sense, dude!
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:16 pm
BOTH
I just found it interesting…you know what I think of polls anyway, no matter who’s conducting them…
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm
But, seriously, why attack my words? Why not face the fact that the administration watched, in REAL time as OUR fellow Americans died unnecessarily! But, you insist on deflecting from the meaning of the post. Incredible dishonesty!
Link the video.
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:18 pm
Looks like Regnad is another socialist who doesn’t have the moxie to own it or debate it.
To no one’s surprise.
Steve
November 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm
Is Ben going to have a temper tantrum when Obama wins next week? methinks so
pete
November 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm
Getalife-
No, now IS THE time to change. Why the hell should we have to suffer 4 more years? Has he done anything positive? Look what he is doing now. New York and New Jersey are suffering, and he is hiding in Nevada campaigning to keep his job. This guy is worthless, and not deserving of his title.
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm
I do kind of feel bad about blowing Adam and stands off the blog though. You know, compassionate conservatism….concern for the weak…..
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm
ALBANY
I just found it interesting you’d throw that in…and as for Benghazi and real time, that one’s already been hacked to extinction and is no longer even a blip on the public consciousness screen since the “real time” aspect is a totally different bowl of grits from what went into the event and what came out of it…it’s the politicization of a tragic event and is tacky, imeoiauo.
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November 2nd, 2012
4:20 pm
Recon:
“And that really was the problem: He had the confidence without the full capability. And he gathered around him friends and associates who adored him, who were themselves talented but maybe not quite big enough for the game they were in. They understood the Democratic Party, its facts and assumptions. But they weren’t America-sized. They didn’t get the country so well.”
Thanks for posting that ……. it’s fits Carter and Obama equally.
Paul
November 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm
Regnad Kcin
“Why do you ask?”
Attention, not knowledge, IMHO -
Good luck!
Just don’t try diagramming the questions and responses…..
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November 2nd, 2012
4:21 pm
Excuse me: “it fits”
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
4:22 pm
Is Ben going to have a temper tantrum when Obama wins next week?
Ben? No.
His new sock puppet name? Of course.
Trust me the “new” bloggers here next week will be a real hoot…
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
4:22 pm
pete,
There is a list of accomplishments even with the obstruction from your failed party.
Perhaps you need to join reality son.
Regnad Kcin
November 2nd, 2012
4:22 pm
“Looks like Regnad is another socialist who doesn’t have the moxie to own it or debate it.”
You’d think I’d learn not to feed a troll… For a minute I thought Ben might actually want to discuss something – my bad.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm
Look what he is doing now. New York and New Jersey are suffering, and he is hiding in Nevada campaigning to keep his job.
What do you want him to do? Direct traffic? Fill sandbags?
Why aren’t YOU there helping you hypocrite. Put your words into action pack a bag and move out.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm
Bennie, playing tough internet testosterone poster today are we girlfriend?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:23 pm
“Is Ben going to have a temper tantrum when Obama wins next week? methinks so”
Another liberal misconception about conservatives. See, conservatives don’t depend on government for our well being, so we don’t get nearly so excited when our guy wins, nor nearly so bummed when our guy loses.
Conservatives will keep on doing what we do, working hard, making good choices, and winning. Liberals, on the other hand, well….let’s just say that lady who professed that Obama’s election freed her from worry about paying her mortgage and putting gas in her car is probably really bummed out right about now…..
josef
November 2nd, 2012
4:24 pm
SCOUT
I should have said that American Israelis tend to have a greater number of conservatives…I wasn’t very clear since, to my understanding, the mainstream of American Israelis is more liberal…that was why i found this interesting…
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:12 pm
Just for you, Fred
Prompt and strong action from the White House on Sept. 11 might have saved American lives, as well as America’s reputation as a nation not to be messed with. Weakness and dithering and flying to Las Vegas the next day for celebrity fund-raising parties are somehow better?
++++++++++++++++++
What’s for me? Some stupidty spewed on a blog?
No, actually that’s from the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Not exactly known for its conservative slant!
Paul
November 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm
0311
My apologies. All my earlier posts to Recon were to you. The ones about the apparently discredited Fox report about the CIA at Benghazi being ordered to stand down and the fact teams were dispatched.
But I’m sure you could discern they were directed at you, anyhow.
Greg
November 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm
So Jay, when is your article for the hard-left heroes in election trouble coming out? Then again, the AJC may not allow you that much space.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:25 pm
imeoiauo? What the hell does that stand for?
In My Excellent Own Immaculate Awesome Unsullied Opinion?
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm
“For a minute I thought Ben might actually want to discuss something”
I’ve already stated my opposition to socialism and re-distribution of wealth and/or income.
Your move big guy.
DownInAlbany
November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:17 pm
But, seriously, why attack my words? Why not face the fact that the administration watched, in REAL time as OUR fellow Americans died unnecessarily! But, you insist on deflecting from the meaning of the post. Incredible dishonesty!
Link the video.
You apparently have internet access. Look it up for yourself! Dang, do I have to do everything?
JamVet
November 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm
Has he done anything positive?
Of course!
Even though he has been middling, even mediocre. I have given him a grade of C-, which ain’t great, but is infinitely better than the F- of his GOP predecessor.
But that you ask that staggeringly ignorant, no make that willfully stupid, question, indicates that NO amount of data, evidence or facts would penetrate your fog.
And there is plenty of it…
Paul
November 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
“Another liberal misconception”
Is this what Ben’s parents said when he was born?
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November 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
josef @ 4:24
I hear you.
Ben Shockley
November 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
“What do you want him to do? Direct traffic? Fill sandbags?”
I guess you have forgotten the criticism Bush received for not going directly to New Orleans on the first day post-Katrina.
Liberals are some jacked-up funny dudes…..
getalife
November 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
bs,
Our President is a capitalist that saved our economy and auto industry.
Deal with it.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:27 pm
No, actually that’s from the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Not exactly known for its conservative slant!
So you say. Link it so I can see. I don’t trust you.
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November 2nd, 2012
4:28 pm
Paul:
I’ve been shot at and missed more times in my life than you could imagine.
You just missed again.
Fred ™
November 2nd, 2012
4:28 pm
You apparently have internet access. Look it up for yourself! Dang, do I have to do everything?
no. But you DO have to prove your lies.