Hurricane Sandy produces two storm-tossed allies

It is remarkable that what we used to expect to happen is now something unusual to be commented upon.

Sadly, I can already hear the cries of ‘traitor’ and “RINO” from our usual suspects.

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I watched a few clips of this guy last nite. Found myself asking what’s his motive……
Something fishy here, I think…

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Obama has been the first to make overtures to republicans many times in various issues and policies but they have rebuffed his efforts at bipartisanship. They had no intention of working with him but as they’ve stated numerous time, their effort is to see that he is a one term president. Such short sighted and narrow mindedness has hampered the economic recovery process and if anyone is to be blamed for the slow recovery, it’s the republicans in Congress.

I commend Gov. Christie for putting aside partisanship and taking the helping hand of government when it’s offered and that his constituents need. But I have no illusions that this bipartisanship will last after the crises is over.

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and long as I’m in “letting other people do the thinking for me” groove, the A-man basically has it right about how to regard Gov. Christie this week.

I watched Chris Christie evolve from being his usual mostly pointlessly dickish self before the storm fully hit to being someone who seemed to be generally concerned with trying to solve the massive problem he was now faced with.

That doesn’t mean I love the guy, but I do think he was, unlike many in his party, actually seeing that it was his job to do stuff.

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Kinda like saying the guy who shows up first for class is the guy who aces the course, eh?

LOL!!
Just doin’ what everybody else does……still waiting for my Reward…

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How many people affected by this storm? The nonChristie Republicans are gonna have to come up with a higher percentage than 47 for the number of moochers in our country.

http://tinyurl.com/bhjluya

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Ready for The One to be One And Done, Bookman? It’s coming in five days, and there’s not a damn thing you or the other liars in the media can do about it.

I can’t wait to watch you carp and whine. Only thing that will be better is when the AJC goes belly up and you’re out on the street with the rest of the trash.

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Tundra

Oh, I know. Just havin’ a little fun pinging you this morning.

Your reward?

Well, lemme see… I know!

Four more years!!!

Howzat?

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Note the irony: the last time we had a BUSINESSMAN face a natural disaster, it took THREE DAYS for the government to get resources in place; with a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER at the helm, resources were pre-positioned and action IMMEDIATELY taken. It took the BUSINESSMAN almost a WEEK to be on the ground; it took the COMMUNITY ORGANIZER 48 HOURS to be on the ground…….

Who would have thunk it???

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Don

Good point. It is consistent with his history.

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Well we know that most of the diatribe about Obama being the “worse president evah” and “not able to work with Republicans” is a load of malarkey. It seems that Christie has confirmed it but most of the remainder of his tone deaf party has hearing problems. We may however be seeing a trend when audiences begin to laugh at idiotic claims like those of michele Bachmann.”

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GANTT

I would recommend a nice triple cream brie (St Andre perhaps) or a hard orange cheese like Mimolette to go with that whine of yours…let me know if I can recommend others..

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Politicizing a f’ing hurricane. Disgusting.

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if you are stupid/naive enough to change your vote to BHO because he visited the area and said a few nice words, then there isn’t a whole lotta hope for the future ….

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gaaaaannnnnntttttt

sounds like

grrrrruuuuunnnnnttttt

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Fox News viewers may not know what you’re talking about, Jay. While other news networks covered the storm’s aftermath, the actions and remarks of the President and Gov. Christie, Fox News covered remarks by Republicans critical of the President over Benghazi. Fox led with Benghazi accusations in Republican fantasy land, then briefly mentioned that the President and Christie toured storm damage in NJ. Then they quickly pivoted back to Benghazi remarks. This illustrates why Fox News viewers are the most poorly informed news watchers, and believe more false information than viewers that watch other news stations.

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if president……would Judas Chrisiie lecture us on proper dietary habits?
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He can’t even govern his self,
Let alone others……………….but then again……we are talking about New Jersey.
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lol

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Gantt

Don’t hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel!!!

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Oblarma is just spiking the ball again and using a natural desaster to gets reelected. This does not take the attention away form his murder of Ben Gazi or the LIES!

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I guess Romney doesn’t listen when the Red Cross tells people to NOT send food items. That causes transportation and storage problems. They DO want people to send cash so they can put it to use immediately where it is needed.

Idiot

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu2SJbmhu2I

Starting at 2:30 in the clip shows you how much love Christie has for Romney (who even tried to play a “community organizer” on Monday ).

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everything has a political calculation…

For some reason that doesn’t apply to Conservatives on Sunday morning talk shows. They must leave their calculators in the limo.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE

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Well I guess when you think GM owns Jeep and there are drone attacks on WI wedding parties, yapping about someone’s weight seems to make sense. While Christie’s weight may be perceived as a political liability, it is still overly childish to try to act like some school yard bully and saying he can’t “govern his self”. Clearly, as you were ignorant before, you are ignorant about real weight control issues. It is far from being a simple governing matter. It is a complicated issue. But bullies usually don’t care for anything but being childish.

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Did anyone happen to notice that Romney’s post-Sandy view of FEMA and the role of the federal government

“”Gov. Romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their jurisdictions,” said the statement by spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg. “As the first responders, states are in the best position to aid affected individuals and communities, and to direct resources and assistance to where they are needed most. This includes help from the federal government and FEMA.”

Read more: http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/sandy-update-disaster-relief-obama-romney-differ-on-federal-role#ixzz2AySlfOw9”

Sounds remarkably like the FEMA mission statement?

“FEMA’s mission is to support our citizens and first responders to ensure that as a nation we work together to build, sustain, and improve our capability to prepare for, protect against, respond to, recover from, and mitigate all hazards.”

and

“The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is the central agency within the Federal government for emergency planning, preparedness, mitigation, response and recovery. Working closely with State and local governments, FEMA funds emergency programs and offers technical guidance and training. FEMA stands ready to deploy any Federal resource in a catastrophic disaster. These coordinated activities ensure a broad-based program to protect life and property and provide recovery assistance after a disaster. ”

“The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is the central agency within the Federal government for emergency planning, preparedness, mitigation, response and recovery. Working closely with State and local governments, FEMA funds emergency programs and offers technical guidance and training. FEMA stands ready to deploy any Federal resource in a catastrophic disaster. These coordinated activities ensure a broad-based program to protect life and property and provide recovery assistance after a disaster. “

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BYTEME

Morning..I didn’t see any info on white Cleveland voters (who always lean DEM) voting early…I know he commented on youth vote and others but I don’t recall all the metrics…

Sorry to post something contrary to your hopes but it is fun to see the discrepancies in the polls…and analyses….

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“you did not build that by yourself”….does those words still apply? will those businesses be able to rebuild without the help of the government?

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The caption under the pic should read:
Christ, man, you need to come to the gym with me……

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Thomas Heyward Jr.

“but intelligent people know that when these types of Laurel and Hardy Politicians start “cooperating”………..one better hold on to your walllets or hold on to what civil liberties that one has left.”

O-kaaay, intelligent person, please tell us if “hold onto your wallets” means we should not provide any relief in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy and also tell those of us who have difficulty following your intelligent train of thought what civil liberties we’re about to lose because Pres Obama and Gov Christie are working together in the aftermath of a national disaster?

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Granny

United States Neocon Contingent.

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Christie is a crass political animal

If Obama wins, he has a 2016 opportunity

He’s throwing mitt under the bus

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BTW, did everybody see Luckovich’s take on Romney’s FEMA?

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He’s throwing mitt under the bus

Then rolling over him. Then putting the bus in reverse to roll over him again. Then stomping on the brake while jamming the other foot on the accelerator… then releasing the brake.

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If you are too stupid to see the truth about Oblarm’s muder of Ben Gazi, you can find it here: townhall.con.

Not at the LIBERAL MEDIA like the AJC is defactoe owned the corrupot Chicago-Obama machine. Just listen to Hannity to here the truth. Not the LIBERAL MEDIA spin zone. I’m gonna cancel my subscription to the AJC and they will go out of business.

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Granny,

Ben Gazi has joined the “Choir Invisible”

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What are they supposed to do, Bright One?

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As for Obama and Christie, I can see them both inviting Mitt to join them for a beer.

Old joke I heard in SLC: how do you keep a Mormon from drinking your beer on a fishing trip? Invite two of them.

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I’m gonna cancel my subscription to the AJC and they will go out of business

hehehehe

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

November 1st, 2012
8:27 am

If you want to take the irony even further: the BUSINESSMAN wants to privatize disaster planning and recovery….and he sends things that are NOT NEEDED nor REQUESTED to a disaster; the COMMUNITY ORGANIZER is sending in the proper assets to begin reconstruction and has the right personnel in place to coordinate the efforts!!

This was NOT a low-bar situation!! If you compare the thought processes of the BUSINESSMAN (Bush/Romney) to the COMMUNITY ORGANIZER (Obama), you’ll see the difference in a profit approach vs. a systemic approach….and the systemic approach is what’s needed NOW!! THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE!!!

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both suggest that the swings and indication suggests Romneys ultimate outcome is increased by enough points to win Florida, Ohio and Virginia

Karl’s own 10/29 map indicates Ohio is still leaning Obama… as is Nevada, Wisconsin, NH, and Iowa.

I buy Romney winning Florida (although the West Palm Beach Republican operative is quite annoyed that Obama GOTV effort there is far surpassing Romney’s). I even think Virginia is a possibility. I think the rest of the states still under consideration are all Obama’s at this point. The polls have been pretty stable lately on this.

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“Politicizing a f’ing hurricane. Disgusting.”

Both sides do it…Katrina ring a bell?

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Politicizing a f’ing hurricane. Disgusting

Unlike, say, politicizing the death of an ambassador… or politicizing military purchases… or …

Politicians do politics. That’s their job. It’s the grunts under them who are doing the actual cleanup. Ok, except for Cory Booker, who was out in the middle of the hurricane providing aid to his constituents and using Twitter to keep up a running conversation.

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Yesterday, Rush Limbaugh was spitting outrage at the nation’s appreciation about FEMA’s very quick and clean response. “Why are people so thrilled with Obama for being presidential? He IS the president. Big Deal. He’s just doing his job.. What is wrong with people? ” etc. etc. etc.

The Rushannities are all featuring “reformed democrats” as call-in testifiers. You should hear the garbled transmissions. “I voted for Carter, Clinton, and Obama, but now, after this FEMA disaster for Romney, I now know I was wrong for four decades. Only Romney can get the economy back, and then our freedoms will be secure.” etc. etc. etc.

Love Luckovich today. “Bucket List”. Inspired Comedy.

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“Both sides do it…Katrina ring a bell?”

I don’t give a crap who does it, it’s disgusting. I don’t play “this side that side” games.

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The Christie, Obama little love fest was purely symbiotic and due to this unfortunate weather disaster. Christie needs to get as much as he can for the people in his state and Obama needed to appear presidential. Jay’s doing yeoman work in attempting to help Obama in this final hour but his effort won’t move the needle.

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“Why are people so thrilled with Obama for being presidential?

Pictures of Bush riding in a helicopter above the fray, very non presidential as American bodies float in the streets of America might start the bidding off.

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“The nonChristie Republicans ”

There you have it.. 10 posts in…

The usual wingnut response… divide everything into “us” vs. “them” … nevermind the fact that “us” and “them” are all AMERICANS… I’m going back to reading the thread now, I’ll bet I’ll be finding the word RINO soon…

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aul

November 1st, 2012
8:48 am

Thomas Heyward Jr.

“but intelligent people know that when these types of Laurel and Hardy Politicians start “cooperating”………..one better hold on to your walllets or hold on to what civil liberties that one has left.”

O-kaaay, intelligent person, please tell us if “hold onto your wallets” means we should not provide any relief in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy and also tell those of us who have difficulty following your intelligent train of thought what civil liberties we’re about to lose because Pres Obama and Gov Christie are working together in the aftermath of a national disaster?
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There is nothing wrong with providing relief EVEN to Jersiacks.
Why do people like you and Bookman feel as if it has to go through Steny Hoyer or Obama’s hands first?Last time I checked..the federalies HAVE no money.
What happened to you dude?
I would consider sending some sardines or something up there but I will not because the “relief” money has already been stolen from me.
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And as far as Civil Liberties………………

Christie Canceled Halloween last night.
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duh

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So Obama responded quickly to the second national emergency, you know the one just before the election. Now he is a saint! He parted the waters and citizens can walk on dry land. Oh by the way, you unemployd, I heard they need workers in New Jersey but I am sure you must have a union card.

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“We will leave no one behind….expect for those in Benghazi.” – Obama

Don’t ask, don’t tell

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This “match” is of a short term necessity for NJ. I’m sure if Christie had the time to expand, he’d say that bigger (non-emergency crisis) picture that Romney is the better fit to create jobs, turn our economy around and get America back on its feet. He’d also say Obama is a free wheeling spender who will raise our national debt to 20+ trillion in a second term.

Look people, I get the changes to society that liberals want, but not at the sake of our country in a time of financial crisis. We simply can’t afford the amount of entitlements that the left enjoys and we certainly cannot afford Obamacare. Remember when Kennedy said ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country? Best thing you can do is set aside those society-laden wants for now and vote for the candidate who will set us on the right path to recovery. ROMNEY

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“He parted the waters and citizens can walk on dry land. ”

willieb– and Mitt did what? I mean, other than running his usual TV ads that LIE LIE LIE!

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Recon

” due to this unfortunate weather disaster. Christie needs to get as much as he can for the people in his state”

So your position is that when national disasters strike the citizens of the entire county have a responsibility to assist?

Rightwing Troll

“The usual wingnut response… divide everything into “us” vs. “them” … nevermind the fact that “us” and “them” are all AMERICANS…”

So we can count on you, in the future, to make no distinctions based upon party affiliation, conservative or liberal, or upon how conservative or how liberal a person or group is? That your future posts will only say “American”?

This should be fun to watch.

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One last comment, then back to work.

All who want to see unity in the federal government – vote for Romney. You will not get it if Obama is reelected. That is plain and undeniable.

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“Mitt lied, people died”.

That’s reserved for where it belongs. A poor president who either ignored the plea’s for additional security or failed to properly manage his state department resulting in the death of four Americans and then attempting to cover it up. The damning cable directly sent to Secretary of State Hillery Clinton one month before the attack proves beyond doubt the gross malfeasance that exists within this administration.

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saving America!

With more Bush policies? That is “saving” America?

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Has Mitt decided what other government funding he would cut in order to fund FEMA now that he is a big FEMA fan? How about food stamps and unemployment benefits for openers.

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JohnnyReb – you may be right (far right) in saying that there will be no unity if Obama gets elected. The GOP’s only goal for the last 4 years has to been to prevent Obama’s second term. The approval rating for Congress is at an all time low. I don’t negotiate with terrorists, so I’ve voted for Obama.

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TaxPayer

November 1st, 2012
9:24 am
How about the Red Cross and donations across the country like that after 9/11. Oh no the guvment got to do it right?

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A Republican governor in a Democratic state being civil to a Democratic president who will win his state next week, and who also holds the purse strings to the federal disaster relief largesse? How strange. And Christie has about as much chance of winning a Republican presidential nomination as Rudy Guilliani did. Just let it go for what it is: The Jersey Shore got battered by a storm, the federal government will help out, and Christie can play nice with Obama until he gets as much of what his state needs to recover as he can.

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“I don’t negotiate with terrorists, so I’ve voted for Obama.”

You dont negotiate with terrorists you simply plot to overthrow this Respresentative Republic.

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The Insurance Companies have a point: The Eastern Seaboard has a pre-existing condition of being at or below sea level, and since when does a Hurricane cause flooding? (since Adam?) This is why so many want to deep six capitalism’s illogical intrusions into Religion: Floods are an act of God. Decline Payment. Next.

Shareholder’s Meeting at noon today. Lets get the refreshments ready. Lets see, we’ll need those cute little finger sandwiches. Water, coffee, and soda.

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Bet the yanks have a better understanding of what New Orleans, Biloxi and Gulfport went thru, less jokes about how stupid those folks were for not leaving and living in a city under sea level, kinda like Hoboken. We are all in it together.

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Williebkind — “You dont negotiate with terrorists you simply plot to overthrow this Respresentative Republic.”

Give it a rest, Willie. Leave the Tim McVeigh rhetoric for the crazoids.

Unless, of course, you’ve joined them.

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Well, when I seen this Christie and Obama together on the TV, I just couldn’t get the old Jack Spratt nursery rhyme out of my head.

Anyhow, I figure if the guvmint can’t get enough people in there to clean up all that trash, Christie will just eat it.

Have a good Thursday everybody.

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“Bush spent less than Obama! You need numbers?”

Don’t know much about our system of government, do you?

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Williebkind

November 1st, 2012
9:32 am
“With more Bush policies? That is “saving” America?”

Bush spent less than Obama! You need numbers?”

Bush caused more DAMAGE than Obama….and Obama’s trying to get things straight!!

Remember….what’s the last act in the circus? The clean-up crew…cause they have the clean up all of the stuff the elephants left behind!!!

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G. Heathen — “As a young man embarking on my first trip to that foreign land, my Dad offered this sage advice: “If you have any trouble, talk loud and raise hell.”

I actually had to coach one of my consulting firm’s sales reps on how to deal with Southern business execs. She was having trouble closing sales in places like Nashville, Atlanta and Birmingham and wanted to know ‘why all those old men talk so slow and can’t make up their minds.’

I had to explain to her that ‘we *know* y’all Yankees think we’re stupid country folk, so they’re *obliging* you so you’ll drop your guard. Then they’ll take advantage of you.’

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LEADERSHIP
BIPARTISANSHIP

And the conservatives HATE both of those things.

Nice try on claiming unity and leadership, conservatives, but you lose when tested.

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Both of these men are just doing their jobs….. nothing more. Heaping praise on either of them is akin to giving a trophy to everyone, no matter who won. Bozo can’t stand Christie, never could. Christie is just caught in the middle….. essentially wanting to do his job but needing government help to accomplish it. And guess who hold the wallet……. Bronco Bamma, who is aching to look presidential with at least something.

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Shorter kayaker: OH MY GOD STOP TALKING ABOUT UNITY! It’s killing Romney’s chances! WHIIIIIINE!

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Jay, it is just you.

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Georgia

November 1st, 2012
9:31 am

The Insurance Companies have a point: The Eastern Seaboard has a pre-existing condition of being at or below sea level, and since when does a Hurricane cause flooding? (since Adam?) This is why so many want to deep six capitalism’s illogical intrusions into Religion: Floods are an act of God. Decline Payment. Next.
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See Federal Subsidizing of Flood insurance…………………………………dummy.

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Williebkind

November 1st, 2012
9:40 am

Are you NOT SEEING the truth? — THAT’s the question!!

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I think Christie is just hoping Obama will introduce him to bruuuuuuuuce.

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Williebkind — “Be afraid JHM be very afraid.”

I kept flying every week after 9/11 (and was in the Washington metro area on 9/11), so if I’m not afraid of al-Qaeda, I’m certainly not afraid of teh Intertoobz Revolootionaries.

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JHM…Sorry, I can’t hear you over the noise of all this heavy equipment cleaning up New Jersey, New York and Delaware. Get back to me once the bulldozers, loaders and dump trucks are gone.

Cute but stupid

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Adam — “BIPARTISANSHIP”

“And the conservatives HATE both of those things.”

I bet they’re slagging on Christie this morning for being bi-curious.

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Meanwhile, new unemployment claims have dropped….. an astounding 2%. Seems that 9,000 people are off the rolls but we still have 363,000 who filed. The jobs numbers are not cooperating, liberals. Something is wrong.

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The spirit of cooperation and compromise that one characterized our governance was undermined by Newt Gingrich’s scorched-earth tactics starting in the 90s. Since then, the heaping helpings of extreme bias offered up by the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Fox & Friends, Sean Hannity, et. al., have made for an even more polarized climate where the base will brook no middle ground. So it is indeed rare to see and hear this type of demonstration of bipartisanship. President Obama went into his term with hopes of reaching across the aisle, but the Republicans would have no part of it. This intransigence is costing them the confidence of the American people — or at least those that haven’t been brainwashed by Fox News.

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Mary Elizabeth,

Evidently you either unaware or have ignored the Obama administration’s mishandling of the recent tragedy in Libya that took the lives of four Americans there in service to our government and to our country.

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Don’t you just love writing COPY?

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ad: “This has gotten them a solid South, voting GOP all the way to the bottom of every measurment on education and wealth..”

They’ll vote for the psychopath twins no matter what.

Well, short of last-minute revelations that Romney has been living a Sandusky-like double life. Or short of him claiming he’s “bigger than Jesus”, or some other such outrage to get the rubes all riled up.

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@ GT – you might want to ask Mayor Cory Booker how fast the left will throw you under the bus for saying something nice about a Republican. Both sides do it dude. Until we get away from this “us vs them” mentality we are never going to be able to fix this mess.

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‘This regime’s secrets and shenanigans will eventually come to light.’

More likely, Romney’s tax returns if he’s elected.

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When individuals fund a charitable remainder unitrust, or “CRUT,” they defer capital gains taxes on any profit from the sale of the assets, and receive a small upfront charitable deduction and a stream of yearly cash payments. Like an individual retirement account, the trust allows money to grow tax deferred, while like an annuity it also pays Romney a steady income. After the funder’s death, the trust’s remaining assets go to a designated charity.

Isn’t that just so “charitable” of the Mitt. Assuming of course that giving to yourself is called “charity”.

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You CONS should move to Bengazi since you care so much. Big Smart Govt is doing its job for a change . So all of you Robme lovers can Suck it on Nov6…. 4 more for 44…

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when you someone

that should be ” when you put someone”

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Kayaker , that sure is hypocritical. You say “Don’t heap praise on them” for doing their jobs and then go on to heap scorn on the President for….doing his job.

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Mary Elizabeth—–
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The possibility of having another President who lives out political spin of truth as reality is abhorrent to me. President Obama does not experience others in a surface way nor does he condone political spin as truth, in large measure. Remember that on Nov. 6.
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I…along with other decent people will remember our civil liberties that we lost and the blood of brown women and children.
You should read this.
From a prog that actually has principles.
Devestating.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/why-i-refuse-to-vote-for-barack-obama/262861/

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bucket: “you might want to ask Mayor Cory Booker how fast the left will throw you under the bus for saying something nice about a Republican”

Cory Booker is thrown under the bus — and I’m throwing the bus into reverse once again right now to back over him once more for good measure — not for “making nice” with a Republican but because he’s a total fake, an astroturf politician who’s been propped up by right-wing education and financial interests throughout his entire career. The guy is entirely in the Arthur Davis mold.

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T. Heyward — ” I shudder to think of what an armed Federalie goon did to any children caught out Trick-or Treating.”

What a pathetically ridiculous statement.

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IABF — “200 marines were killed in Beirut under Reagan”

And one of them was a friend of mine.

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My sincere condolences..

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“Chrisitie DID cancel halloween and I shudder to think of what an armed Federalie goon did to any children caught out Trick-or Treating.”

I shudder to think about kids out in costume with no streetlights on, emergency vehicles flying about and possibly live, downed power lines laying about…As for what “armed FEDRALIE goons” did to kids last night… that’s just in your sick and twisted fantasy… there were no Mexican Fedralies in NJ last night, nor were there “armed” Federal agents out enforcing Christies State level proclamation…

I’m sure there’s a HUGE issue in NJ this morning with all those people who bought candy and didn’t have a single trick or treater…

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24 million unemployed will cry if Obama is re-elected

Because then there will be no hope, no change, and not much of a future

Elect Mitt and let’s put America back to work

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“But we’ll spend $billions to rebuild these areas so they can be wiped out again by some future storm.”

Nowhere on earth is immune to natural disasters. What would you have use do? Find a disaster free planet to move to?

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K71 — “We are getting ready for the biggest tax increase in US history as of January 1, 2013.”

No, we’re not. You’re quite simply lying about that.

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TaxPayer — “Isn’t that just so “charitable” of the Mitt. Assuming of course that giving to yourself is called “charity”.

A CRUT is apparently analogous to the GRAT, which is something that Mr. Cassidy sometimes mentions here in his posts.

Speaking of Mr. Cassidy, has he posted since Sandy blew through? He’s in Manhattan IIRC, but I don’t know precisely where.

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“Blatant, outright lies from someone who knew all along that these figures would be forced on the public by the end of the first term.”

Why? Did his crystal ball tell him that he would be subjected to a racist, klan filled congress who would obstruct his every move, even to the detriment of the American people, simply to try and score political points? Those taxes don’t have to go up, but that’s obviously what W and his wingnut congress meant to happen.

Maybe it was W who had the crystal ball and it told him that after 8 years of his policies America would need the higher taxes to pay for all his disasters.

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kayaker 71
“Now those are lies, curious. Blatant, outright lies from someone who knew all along that these figures would be forced on the public by the end of the first term.”

Political talk and mostly due to the expiration of Bush’s tax cuts.

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Speak of the devil, there’s Butch now.

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“Retired” Military Endorsements:

OBAMA:

Headline (NBC): “Obama touts Powell’s endorsement before Virginia crowd”

General Wesley Clark, USA, (Ret)
General Colin Powell, USA (Ret)
Major General Paul Eaton, USA (Ret)
Admiral Donald Gutter, USN, former JAG of the Navy, (Ret)
Admiral John Nathman, USN, (Ret)

ROMNEY:

Headline (Marine Corps Times): “Romney unveils list of retired brass supporters”

Admiral James B. Busey, USN, (Ret.)
General James T. Conway, USMC, (Ret.)
General Terrence R. Dake, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral James O. Ellis, USN, (Ret.)
Admiral Mark Fitzgerald, USM, (Ret.)
General Ronald R. Fogleman, USAF, (Ret)
General Tommy Franks, USA, (Ret)
General Alfred Hansen, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald Jackson Hays, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Thomas Bibb Hayward, USN, (Ret)
General Chuck Albert Horner, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Jerome LaMarr Johnson, USN, (Ret)
Admiral Timothy J. Keating, USN, (Ret)
General Paul X. Kelley, USMC, (Ret)
General William Kernan, USA, (Ret)
Admiral George E.R. Kinnear II, USN, (Ret)
General William L. Kirk, USAF, (Ret)
General James J. Lindsay, USA, (Ret)
General William R. Looney III, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Hank Mauz, USN, (Ret)
General Robert Magnus, USMC, (Ret)
Admiral Paul David Miller, USN, (Ret)
General Henry Hugh Shelton, USA, (Ret)
General Lance Smith, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Leighton Smith, Jr., USN, (Ret)
General Ronald W. Yates, USAF, (Ret)
Admiral Ronald J. Zlatoper, USN, (Ret)
Lieutenant General James Abrahamson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edgar Anderson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marcus A. Anderson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buck Bedard, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral A. Bruce Beran, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Lyle Bien, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Harold Blot, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General H. Steven Blum, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bowman III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Mike Bucchi, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter E. Buchanan III, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard A. Burpee, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Campbell, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General James E. Chambers, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward W. Clexton, Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General John B. Conaway, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Marvin Covault, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Terry M. Cross, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William Adam Dougherty, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Brett Dula, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Gordon E. Fornell, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral David Frost, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Henry C. Giffin III, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Peter M. Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Richard D. Herr, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas J Hickey, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Walter S. Hogle, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Ronald W. Iverson, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Donald W. Jones, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Douglas J. Katz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Jay W. Kelley, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Tom Kilcline, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Timothy A. Kinnan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Harold Koenig, M.D., USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Albert H. Konetzni, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Buford Derald Lary, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Frank Libutti, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Stephen Loftus, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Michael Malone, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward H. Martin, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John J. Mazach, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Justin D. McCarthy, USN, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William McCauley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Fred McCorkle, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Joseph S. Mobley, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Carol Mutter, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Dave R. Palmer, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John Theodore “Ted” Parker, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry L. Parks, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles Henry “Chuck” Pitman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Steven R. Polk, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral William E. Ramsey, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Joseph J. Redden, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Clifford H. “Ted” Rees, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Edward Rowny, USA (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Dutch Schultz, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Charles J. Searock, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General E. G. “Buck” Shuler, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Alexander M. “Rusty” Sloan, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General David J. Teal, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Billy M. Thomas, USA, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Donald C. “Deese” Thompson, USCG, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Herman O. “Tommy” Thomson, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Howard B. Thorsen, USCG, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William Thurman, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Robert Allen “R.A.” Tiebout, USMC, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral John B. Totushek, USNR, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General George J. Trautman, USMC, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Garry R. Trexler, USAF, (Ret.)
Vice Admiral Jerry O. Tuttle, USN, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Claudius “Bud” Watts, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General William “Bill” Welser, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Thad A. Wolfe, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General C. Norman Wood, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Michael W. Wooley, USAF, (Ret.)
Lieutenant General Richard “Rick” Zilmer, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Chris Adams, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry Amos, USN (Ret.)
Major General Nora Alice Astafan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Almon Bowen Ballard, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General James F. Barnette, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Barrow, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John R. Batlzer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jon W. Bayless, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John E. Bianchi, USA, (Ret.)
Major General David F. Bice, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Linda J. Bird, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Black, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Peter A. Bondi, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John L. Borling, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Tom Braaten, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert J. Brandt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jerry C. Breast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Bruce B. Bremner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Brown III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David P. Burford, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Calvert, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay A. Campbell, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry Canterbury, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James J. Carey, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Nevin Carr, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Stephen K. Chadwick, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W. Lewis Chatham, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeffrey G. Cliver, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Casey Coane, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Isaiah C. Cole, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stephen Condon, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard C. Cosgrave, USANG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert Cowley, USN, (Ret.)
Major General J.T. Coyne, USMC, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Crates, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Tommy F. Crawford, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James P. Davidson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Kevin F. Delaney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James D. Delk, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Robert E. Dempsey, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jay Ronald Denney, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Robert S. Dickman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James C. Doebler, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas O. Dollar, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Hunt Downer, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas A. Dyches, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Jay T. Edwards, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John R. Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Francis L. Filipiak, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James H. Flatley III, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Charles Fletcher, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bobby O. Floyd, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Veronica Froman, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Vance H. Fry, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral R. Byron Fuller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George M. Furlong, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Frank Gallo, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ben F. Gaumer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harry E. Gerhard Jr., USN, (Ret.)
Major General Daniel J. Gibson, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Andrew A. Giordano, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard N. Goddard, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fred Golove, USCGR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Eric Grant, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Jeff Grime, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Kent Guest, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Tim Haake, USAR, (Ret.)
Major General Otto K. Habedank, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas F. Hall, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald P. Harvey, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Leonard W. Hegland, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John Hekman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John A. Hemphill, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Hereth, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Wilfred Hessert, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Hickman, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey Higginbotham, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General Jerry D. Holmes, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Weldon F. Honeycutt, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steve Israel, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James T. Jackson, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John S. Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tim Jenkins, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Ron Jesberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Pierce J. Johnson, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven B. Kantrowitz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Kavanaugh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Dennis M. Kenneally, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Michael Kerby, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Kunkel, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General Geoffrey C. Lambert, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Arthur Langston, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas G. Lilly, USN, (Ret.)
Major General James E. Livingston, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Al Logan, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General John D. Logeman Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Noah H. Long Jr, USNR, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Don Loren, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Andy Love, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Thomas C. Lynch, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Steven Wells Maas, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert M. Marquette, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Larry Marsh, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Clark W. Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General William M. Matz, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Gerard Mauer, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. McDaniel, MD, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral E.S. McGinley II, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Henry C. McKinney, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert Messerli, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Douglas S. Metcalf, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John W. Miller, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Patrick David Moneymaker, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Mario Montero, USA, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Douglas M. Moore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Walter Bruce Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General William Moore, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Burton R. Moore, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James A. Morgart, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Stanton R. Musser, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John T. Natter, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert George Nester, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General George W. Norwood, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert C. Olsen, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Raymund E. O’Mara, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert S. Owens, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John F. Paddock, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Robert W. Paret, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert O. Passmore, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Earl G. Peck, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Richard E. Perraut Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gerald F. Perryman, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral W.W. Pickavance, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral John J. Prendergast, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Fenton F. Priest, USN, (Ret.)
Major General David C. Ralston, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Bentley B. Rayburn, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Harold Rich, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Roland Rieve, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Tommy F. Rinard, USN , (Ret.)
Major General Richard H. Roellig, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Michael S. Roesner, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William J. Ryan, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Loran C. Schnaidt, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Carl Schneider, USAF , (Ret.)
Major General John P. Schoeppner, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Edison E. Scholes, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. Shumaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William S. Schwob, USCG, (Ret.)
Major General David J. Scott, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hugh P. Scott, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Richard Secord, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral William H. Shawcross, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Joseph K. Simeone, USAF and ANG , (Ret.)
Major General Darwin Simpson, ANG , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Greg Slavonic, USN , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral David Oliver “D.O.” Smart, USNR, (Ret.)
Major General Richard D. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Donald Bruce Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Paul O. Soderberg, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Robert H. “Bob” Spiro, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Henry B. Stelling, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Daniel H. Stone, USN, (Ret.)
Major General William A. Studer, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Hamlin Tallent, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Hugh Banks Tant III, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Larry S. Taylor, USMC, (Ret.)
Major General J.B. Taylor, USA, (Ret.)
Major General Thomas R. Tempel, USA , (Ret.)
Major General Richard L. Testa, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Jere Thompson, USN (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Byron E. Tobin, USN, (Ret.)
Major General Larry Twitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Russell L. Violett, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General David E.B. “DEB” Ward, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Charles J. Wax, USAF, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Donald Weatherson, USN, (Ret.)
Major General John Welde, USAF, (Ret.)
Major General Gary Whipple, USA , (Ret.)
Rear Admiral James B. Whittaker, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Charles Williams, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral H. Denny Wisely, USN, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral Theodore J. Wojnar, USCG, (Ret.)
Rear Admiral George R. Worthington, USN, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur Abercrombie, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John R. Allen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Loring R. Astorino, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Averitt, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Garry S. Bahling, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald E. Barnhart, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Charles L. Bishop, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Clayton Bridges, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jeremiah J. Brophy, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General R. Thomas Browning, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David A. Brubaker, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Chalmers R. Carr, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Fred F. Caste, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Clements, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Christopher T Cline, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Peyton Cole, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard A. Coleman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mike Cushman, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Peter Dawkins, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Sam. G. DeGeneres, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General George Demers, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Howard G. DeWolf, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Arthur F. Diehl, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David Bob Edmonds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Anthony Farrington, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Norm Gaddis, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert H. Harkins, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas W. Honeywill, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stanley V. Hood, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General James J. Hourin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack C. Ihle, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas G. Jeter, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General William Herbert Johnson, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Kenneth F. Keller, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Wayne W. Lambert, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jerry L. Laws, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Thomas J. Lennon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John M. Lotz, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert S. Mangum, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Frank Martin, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joe Mensching, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard L. Meyer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Lawrence A. Mitchell, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael P. Mulqueen, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ben Nelson, Jr., USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jack W. Nicholson, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Maria C. Owens, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dave Papak, USMC, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Gary A. Pappas, USANG, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Robert V. Paschon, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allen K. Rachel, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Jon Reynolds, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Edward F. Rodriguez, Jr., USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Roger Scearce, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Dennis Schulstad, USAFR, (Ret.)
Brigadier General John Serur, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Joseph L. Shaefer, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Graham Shirley, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Raymond Shulstad, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Stan Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Ralph S. Smith, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Donald Smith, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General David M. Snyder, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Michael Joseph Tashjian, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Richard Louis Ursone, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Earl Van Inwegen, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Terrence P. Woods, USAF, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Mitchell Zais, USA, (Ret.)
Brigadier General Allan Ralph Zenowitz, USA, (Ret.)

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I’m telling you, you haven’t SEEN unhinged con yet.
FBI better be ready Wed morning.
They’re not going extinct quietly. Noooo sir.
Its gonna be Jerry Springer trashy.

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“24 million unemployed will cry if Obama is re-elected”

Non-government ADP announced today that 158,000 private sector jobs were created in October. Stop crying.

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0311 — I’ll see your list of Generals and Admirals and raise you one four-star Secretary of State.

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““But we’ll spend $billions to rebuild these areas so they can be wiped out again by some future storm.””

yay!!!

I’ll play!!

tell me – where would you have people build that is immune to any kind of natural disaster?

Please, be specific.

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Scout, 10:09,

Priceless!!

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Rightwing Troll

November 1st, 2012
9:21 am

It is awesome that BO decided to actually (role play at least) trying to actually do something other than campaign since….July or August? Too bad he continues to campaign in the process…

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

November 1st, 2012
10:09 am

so what!! You need your own blog…could have just posted the link….

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Consumer Confidence at highest rating since feb, 2008…

Cons, your talking points are fizzling one by one…

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Williebkind — “Compromise to a liberal is for me to give up my beliefs and traditions and accept their vile disgusting behavior and beliefs.”

Not in the least.

Compromise to this liberal is your beliefs and traditions stay in your home and out of government, just like everyone else’s.

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Thomas Heyward, Jr., Christie canceled Halloween last night because the power is still out everywhere! Jeez. You want kids walking around in the dark with trees and possibly power lines still down?

Christie “rescheduled” Halloween for this Monday.

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0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

Dont make toooo much impact, they get scarrrrrrreddd.

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Compromise to a liberal is for me to give up my beliefs and traditions and accept their vile disgusting behavior and beliefs. Is that simple enough?

You could have simply said I don’t know as opposed to making up sh*t. But, you do what you do best.

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Recon — “Joe at least you can giggle, laugh and point which must mean that spending your days in Jay’s daycare for unproductive adults is good for your spirits, however, in my case I have other things to do. see ya”

Oh, gosh, the ‘You Post More Than I Do So You Must Be Unemployed’ internet gambit! Never seen THAT one before! (snicker)

Hey, since you’re going back to work, fill ‘er up with unleaded and check under the hood, willya?

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“Thomas Heyward, Jr., Christie canceled Halloween last night because the power is still out everywhere! Jeez. You want kids walking around in the dark with trees and possibly power lines still down?”

… cuz nothing says “trick or treat libertarian stylie” quite like a kid getting electrocuted.

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Kayaker 71 @ 10:11

Thank you.

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Curious,

What are the odds that some of those military dudes publicly supporting BO will actually vote for Romney? Stranger things have happened..

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JHM – “Speaking of Mr. Cassidy, has he posted since Sandy blew through? He’s in Manhattan IIRC, but I don’t know precisely where.”

Hey Joe, I’ve posted sporadically since Sandy. In regard to your comment, I’ve always advocated the CRUT, not sure what the GRAT is that you are referring to. I live in the Tribeca area, still got water issues.

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USinUK — “… cuz nothing says “trick or treat libertarian stylie” quite like a kid getting electrocuted.”

Mr Heyward apparently thinks that the Eeeeevil Noo Joisey Gubmint jackbooted thugz0rz will shoot and wrestle to the ground any unauthorized trick-or-treaters as a threat to good order and teh SOSHULIST regime.

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RIGHTTROLL

Romney isn’t president and has no ongoing duties except to his party….what governing has BO done in the past several months beside this that fits his job description?

They all do the same thing..

The continued reference to GWB suggests many don’t have any other game than to confirm their guy has met or exceeded this poor example…he has acutally copied many of GWB’s tactics…

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…biblically impaired…

The phrase of the day, RT!

Fortunately, Christianity is not a religion. (Just ask the corporal…)

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“What are the odds that some of those military dudes publicly supporting BO will actually vote for Romney?”

Active duty military is heavily wingnut, veterans are usually Democrats. Once they return from their wingnut wars and realize wingnuts will greet them at the airport, give them a cup of coffee and walk away, they usually turn to the party who will take care of them in return for their sacrifices…

That being said, active duty folks are tired of wingnut warmongering… I wouldn’t be surprised if they were voting a little more democratic this year.

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JamVet

November 1st, 2012
10:16 am
Why dont you do something humanitarian and get with PETA and help design the memorial for the dead fish.

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“he has acutally copied many of GWB’s tactics…”

On that much, we can agree…

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“What are the odds that some of those military dudes publicly supporting BO will actually vote for Romney? Stranger things have happened..”

Probably about the same for the ones publicly supporting Romney.

In the end, the most likely winner will get the support so that the money continues to flow to both the military industrial complex and our recently created intelligence industrial complex.

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LORD

How much credit really goes to the WH and congress? Although a common scorecard, these folks have very little influence on the free market…I think tax policy, stimulus etcetera don’t remotely near the influence all suggest…Obama didn’t change gas prices, he didn’t increase or decrease unemployment (except perhaps for the infrastructure jobs of which I have no numbers)

All of you give him credit for good outcomes but blame all bad on a guy that hasn’t governed since 2008..Kinda like taking over a football team as coach promising hope and change…who has a less that stellar record 4 years in and is trying to keep his job by saying the coach 4 years ago is making it impossible for him to make a change.

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So a bunch of old retired men who live fat because of wingnut warmongering support the wingnut?

HUGE surprise there… HUGE… of course their retirement and healthcare is guaranteed… the grunts coming in off the field… no so much.

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Adam – 10:20 – SNAP!!!!

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TROLL

Hard to disagree…if Obama wins, he will undoubtedly have to repay those chits with favors…If Romney wins, he will undoubtedly have to repay those chits…

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godless – “USinUK. Do you think it’s wise to rebuild homes that have been demolished twice in 50 years by storm surge? Would you spend your money to do it?”

A lot of contractors will make money during the rebuilding process.

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“Religion “binds”. Christianity “frees” !

“Religion emphasizes precepts, propositions, performance, production, programs, promotion, percentages, etc. Christianity emphasizes the Person of Jesus Christ, and His life lived out through the receptive Christian believer.

Christianity is not religion! Christianity is Christ! Christianity is “Christ-in-you-ity.” Jesus Christ did not found a religion to remember and reiterate His teaching. Christianity is the personal, spiritual presence of the risen and living Lord Jesus Christ, manifesting His life and character in Christians, i.e. “Christ-ones.” Paul explained, “It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me” (Gal. 2:20).”

http://www.christinyou.net/pages/Xnotrel.html

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2 opportunists that seek to advance their careers on the suffering of the populace. The promises of money,money money would advance anyones career. I would think a $16,000,000,000, 000 deficit would be paramount, but spending even more is the order of the Commander-in-Chief.

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Brocephus – “Uh oh… Here comes BLSgate 2: The sequel.”

it’s ADP … not even a federal agency …

OH!!! The horror!!!

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Christianity is religion.

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‘How much credit really goes to the WH and congress? ‘

Dude, do a little research on the 1993 deficit reduction Act. Look at how many in the GOP voted for it (hint: 0), look at the floor speeches and press releases from the GOP about how this would devastate the economy and ‘burn a hole in the deficit.’

Then, look at the results (deficits to surplus, 22 million jobs and the longest sustained economic growth in our nations history).

The man that engineered that economic policy is a big fan of President Obama…

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BRO

What does “September’s increase has halved to 88,200 new jobs from an initially reported 162,000″ mean? So will unemployment for September be revised with an increase?

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“Snoop Thuggy Thug”

Thug-olicious!

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Broke ethics law hiding millions, say good government groups
by Greg Palast
Toledo, Ohio – Wednesday October 31, 2012
For Mitt Romney, it’s one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon he will charged with violating the federal Ethics in Government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bail-out.
At a press conference in Toledo, Bob King, President of the United Automobile Workers, will announce that his union and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) have filed a formal complaint with the US Office of Government Ethics in Washington stating that Gov. Romney improperly hid a profit of $15.3 million to $115.0 million in Ann Romney’s so-called “blind” trust.

http://zdroberts.wordpress.com/2012/11/01/uaw-files-charges-against-romney-on-his-auto-bail-out-profiteering/

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If Scout and his ilks are living embodiments of Christ, no wonder God sent Sandy…

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UAW-10:37

October surprise? (a day or two late…)

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Stevie Ray

The ADP report is done by a private company.

http://www.adp.com/

http://www.adpemploymentreport.com/

I don’t even think they’re using the same numbers as the actual BLS numbers. I saw that article and figure it will cause some commotion, especially considering the BLS stated they may have to delay their report because of the storm. Since Sandy hit, I haven’t heard anything else on the potential delay of the BLS report.

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I totally agree with that! However, all the rebuilding paid for by the tax payer will go to unions and I have a problem with that.

Well then, quit whining and go jump in a lift bucket and string up some power lines. Or, go grab a nail gun and a circular saw and start building. What’s stopping you?

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willie, why don’t you go do something humanitarian and kiss Donnie Birther’s ass?

I’m sure you’ll find it 1% yummy…

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“Yeah cause all those thug linesmen and first responders are just takers”

Are all linesman and first responders union workers?

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“Wow the unions are at work already to get their share of the booty from Sandy’s wrath.”

No, I’m pretty sure the main thrust of the article was that Mittens was hiding his unethical, criminal, massive gains from the Auto bailouts he bashes at every turn…

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Scout has proof that Christianity can be supported by the Laws of Physics and hence is not based on faith and therefore is not a religion. It’s real simple. You see, the bible has three dimensions and therefore has volume and it has contains paper (unless you limit the discussion to the virtual version and then all bets are off) so it has mass. Hence by Newton’s Law, the bible is confirmed to have weight and so by extension Christianity is supported by the Laws of Physics.

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LORD

Don’t discount the other factors that (self admittedly boosted things for Clinton) aided this outcome…dot.com boom helped create massive additional tax numbers and the like…I hear you but point is that it is very difficult to attach job growth in any specifics to this or any plan…

Both sides have strong opinions but here is a well written opinion by a source you will not like…but its another side of the story..

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2008/11/why-government-spending-does-not-stimulate-economic-growth

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@Bro

BLS says employment numbers out tomorrow at 8:30A
http://www.bls.gov/

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The October surprise was Christie endorsing our President like mitt did in the last debate.

Why change leaders?

Even republicans love our President.

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Who is Donnie Birther?

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UAW — “For Mitt Romney, it’s one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon he will charged with violating the federal Ethics in Government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bail-out.”

November surprise, beaches.

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TP – I don’t believe religion and science to be mutually exclusive…not everything is binary

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Or, go grab a nail gun and a circular saw and start building.

I hear you can just pick up a power line and plug-’er-in, pretty much anywhere you look

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cnn is finally mentioning mitt wanted to end fema.

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B. Cassidy — “On a positive note, it’s much easier to get around the city on the Can Am since the storrm.”

Can Am? Is that one of those three-wheeled bikes from Canuckistan?

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not based on faith and therefore is not a religion

Scout’s Christianity: The soup that eats like a meal.

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STANDS

Why is Romney not having a job relevant to the president attending to his job description?

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The extremes the right will go to divert from Mitt’s slimey “storm relief event” lies…. cheap shots at Joe.

Righties certainly can win the limbo contest….. they can go to new lows at any time.

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You liberals are getting boring again…

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Gantt – Please be sure to bring your own crow here on 11/7, k? Looking forward to seeing you eat it.

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You’re right. Christianity isn’t a religion. It’s a cult.

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“You liberals are getting boring again…”

I know right? The truth is usually nowhere near as sexy as the big steaming pile of lies the wingnuts live on…

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BRO

I am familiar with ADP but it seems like downward adjustments in job growth and particularly GDP growth are the rule rather than the exception..

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mitt’s auto bailout lie ad backfired.

Americans know mitt is a blatant liar like you cons.

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Stevie Ray

I don’t follow that stuff too closely, so I’ll defer to you. Overall though, we have seen continued positive growth, even if it is small. I would rather see that than a continued downward spiral feeding upon itself. Upward spirals have to start somewhere, so it could be that we’re seeing the spring being loaded for a future upswing. Who knows?

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Lets face reality.

The President deserves to win and Americans don’t believe a word from the right.

gop civil war is coming.

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“Scout’s Christianity: The soup that eats like a meal.”

and feeds the 5,000

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“I am familiar with ADP but it seems like downward adjustments in job growth and particularly GDP growth are the rule rather than the exception”

Not sure what the general trend is. I’ve seen upward and downward revisions.
I just wonder what data comes in after the fact that they don’t have during the initial release.

Might be a new government contract opportunity for my s/w data mining firm.

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Dixie:
Where is George W. Bush?

They had to ship him off to political “Siberia”.
For some reason, they don’t want him out here boasting of his record, such as:

Six years ago, “it was standard practice not to pay for things,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah.
“We were concerned about it, because it certainly added to the deficit, no question.”

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“But, when they called him, he refused to do his job, he refused to help and let them die and then, as is his modus operendi, blamed every one else. ”

really??

they called HIM??

They called OBAMA???

got the phone logs to prove it???

I mean, I know that’s a popular meme right now … but, I hate to tell you that there is no evidence that supports that position.

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Pea,

The Dems do not march lock step and bow down for the wealthy like the gop cult.

Lets get real Pea.

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BTW, while he is off campaigning millions of people in the Northeast are in the same dire straits they were in before he came to the rescue. Nothing has changed and won’t for many months and years to come.

So, what do you want Obama to do, stay there for many months and years to come? Do you realize that the longer he’s there, the more resources are pulled away from where they are needed in order to keep the president secure? Just wow….

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USinUK: Righty is lying. What he means is a MERCENARY called his boss for some support………

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If you can’t write the truth don’t type.

No Americans believe you anyway.

Just zip it cons.

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I am sorry but I don’t get all teary eyed because Obama did his job would rather eat broken glass than ever acknowledge anything done well by a non-Republican.

It is not in my Uncle Sam hating, neocon DNA…

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“I totally agree with that! However, all the rebuilding paid for by the tax payer will go to unions and I have a problem with that”

No, they won’t. They will go to the PEOPLE who do the work and who will then spend that money and put it back into the economy.

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I did not have sexual relations with that woman!

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Perimeter Perez!
A shame if true.

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Perimeter Perez!
A shame if true.

Bummer.

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“he wasn’t engaged”
“he watched them die on a live feed”

You idiots are all over the map on this.

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“Maybe the Liberals can drag this one out & “mooch” for several years like they did in New Orleans!”

you mean drag this one out talking about what a FANTASTIC job Obama did with Sandy??

yeah. I think we can totally do that.

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Mighty Righty

” But, when they called him, he refused to do his job, he refused to help and let them die and then, as is his modus operendi, blamed every one else. ”

Wow…. 2,500 active duty Navy SEALs have Pres Obama’s phone number on speed dial.

I learn something new here every day.

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GANTT…” Only thing that will be better is when the AJC goes belly up and you’re out on the street with the rest of the trash.”
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At least you’re honest about the way you and your ilk regard us 47%!!!

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NJ is a net federal contributor (as opposed to recipient), so YES, verily YES, I would rebuild there.

Did I saw make the whole state off limits? Rebuilding in flood prone areas is just plain stupid, and if it were your money alone to waste, I could care less.

A lot of contractors will make money during the rebuilding process.

They will need housing somewhere. Just don’t waste the money to rebuild where the next storm will wash the houses away again.

What’s that old definition of stupid?

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Actual Fox “News” headline, near top of home page:

Late Night TV Roughs Up Mitt, Not Dems

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I don’t believe religion and science to be mutually exclusive…not everything is binary

If you wish to be a follower of faith-based science, that is your right.

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Fred

I saw that one last night. And you can bite my dialup ass!!!

As for Perez, different outlets have been trying to confirm the story, but as far as what I’ve seen, it was reported by Dominican news outlets.

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“She also calls unhinged cons “primates.””

hrm … I think that the orangutans and silver-backed gorillas should be offended.

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If you wish to be a follower of faith-based science, that is your right

what the heck is faith-based science??…why do you think the two can’t coexist?

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Adam

November 1st, 2012
10:55 am
Cult or not, I know we’d be a lot better off without it.

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Fred

I saw it on Fox Sports…

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/pascual-perez-killed-in-stabbing-in-dominican-republic-home-reports-say-110112

But, I haven’t heard ESPN mention it yet this morning.

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So these two ex-seals had a direct line into the Oval (or perhaps Obama’s personal cell phone?) completely by-passing consular security, State, CIA, NSA and JCS?

Hmm – that chain of command thing is a pesky little problem for wing-nut theories that are floating around like the half-digested chili-dogs in a porta-potty at a NASCAR race.

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Damn! A civil discourse between two government leaders. What a freakin’ change.

“Why is propaganda so much more successful when it stirs up hatred than when it tries to stir up friendly feelings.? ~Bertrand Russell

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Coweta county has been hit by tornado’s three of the last five years, time to stop building there?

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JHM – “Can Am? Is that one of those three-wheeled bikes from Canuckistan?

Yep, 2012 Black Can Am Spyder SE5 Roadster.

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“Coweta county has been hit by tornado’s three of the last five years, time to stop building there?”

welp, good grief, I guess we should clear out Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas

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Lastly – and this point has been made a couple of times already, but if CC does want to run for CiC, then he needs to lose some major poundage.

I’m not saying this about his appearance, I’m saying this because he will drop dead on the dais when he’s taking his oath of office

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Peadawg: So is the Republican Party and the Democrat Party.

True enough. It’s one of the reasons I advocate for no parties at all.

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Since we now believe it’s unwise to rebuild in hurricane alley (New Jersey), maybe we should declare tornado alley (Midwest) out of bounds, also.

God forbid they get FEMA assistance.

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Show me a house in Coweta County that has been hit by a tornado in three of the past five years.

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Normal Free…Pro Human Rights Thug…And liking it!

November 1st, 2012
11:33 am

Adam

November 1st, 2012
10:55 am
Cult or not, I know we’d be a lot better off without it.
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Why do you militant atheists feel the urge to bash Christianity at every turn?

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TH FROM MC

Those who can’t see the problem – are the problem! We are all part of the same hypocrisy, yours is just more blatant…

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Yep, 2012 Black Can Am Spyder SE5 Roadster.

Kinda like a motorcycle with training wheels on the front?

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Why do you militant atheists feel the urge to bash Christianity at every turn?

Honestly I am not an atheist. But I deliberately start flame wars sometimes because I love how reactionary Christians get sometimes.

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” but at least keep your mouths shut if you can’t grasp it.”

Make me tough guy.

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Fred: In other words, I do it deliberately just to get a rise out of you. Thanks for playing along

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ADP numbers are higher than expected.

Not quite time to turn out the lights but we can go ahead and pull the blinds, k?

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Didn’t they try to make Ghoul-iani America’s mayor after 9/11. What did he do? This guy tried to parlay that into becoming the next president.

President Obama is the man in charge and he’s doing what you do when in charge. He learned not to follow W’s playbook.

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VOTE YES TO AMENDMENT #1
CHARTER SCHOOLS WORK

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/45-metro-schools-among-states-top-title-1-performi/nSs6T/

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ADP numbers are higher than expected.

You don’t trust that cooked gub’mint data do you? Oh, wait……

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Do sock puppets come in bags or boxes?

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curious

November 1st, 2012
11:47 am

I hope they aren’t rebuilding St Joseph, MO or the hospital in Americus.
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Are you stupid or just being deliberately obtuse (You as well USinUK). godless was quite clear in saying build ABOVE the floodline or leave a beach barrier. You keep twisting his words to the ridiculous, BOTH OF YOU.

He’s absolutely right. Building in a flood plane is stupid. If you CHOOSE to do it, then the financial risk should be YOURS and yours alone, not passed on to the taxpayer. A FLOODPLANE is completely different than a freaking tornado muffin heads.

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Fred

I’m hoping to catch her coming back into the country through Hartsfield someday.

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Fred – “Kinda like a motorcycle with training wheels on the front?”

LOL, more like a snowmobile with wheels.

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““VOTE YES TO AMENDMENT #1
CHARTER SCHOOLS WORK””

Vote yes for handing over power to big-government unelected committees, over-ruling local decisions on what’s best for your communitiy!

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Flood plains and set back lines for dunes should be protected from buildings.
In Georgia we have set back lines from rivers and streams, and restrictions on building in flood plains. Good idea.

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JohnnyReb

November 1st, 2012
9:18 am
What a bunch of crap ! And a demonstration of the futile attempts from the Left to save Obama. A pure sign of desperation is over the top praise for president doing his basic job.

Cons missing the point as usual. According to Romney, who wants to cut FEMA, it’s not the President’s job to deal with huge disasters of this sort. But of course maybe that is based on the performance of certain GOP presidents during past disasters…

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“Update – InTrade now has Obama as a better-than 2-1 favorite…

Cons – go pick up a bargain in Romney shares!”

I have been on the Unskewed Polls website all morning, they gave me the confidence to plop down $100,000 on Romney over at Intrade.

I am going to be rich soon!

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YouLibs

November 1st, 2012
11:59 am

Is a floodplane similar to a swamp boat?
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Ask Rush.

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Righty – you are so amusing! You must have worked very hard to work those numbers. And you, I, and everyone on this blog knows what the true facts are in the situation, so I wonder why you did it. My best guess is, to make yourself feel better?

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‘My best guess is, to make yourself feel better?’

My advice would be to eat more fiber instead…

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Christie = a decent man who cares for the citizens of his state & has extended his hand out for Obama’s friendship and fed assitance.

Nagin = typical hate filled Democrat who would deprive his own residents of any assistance from Bush Jr.

Big, big difference that Jay yet again fails to mention.

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My advice would be to eat more fiber instead…

COLON BLOW!

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MiltonMan

November 1st, 2012
12:05 pm

Christie = a decent man who cares for the citizens of his state & has extended his hand out for Obama’s friendship and fed assitance.

Nagin = typical hate filled Democrat who would deprive his own residents of any assistance from Bush Jr.
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I congratulate MiltonMan. It only took you 3hours and 59 minutes to spin together that lie. Jay will have to come up with something harder for you to blame on Obama or Democrats next time……..

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In Georgia we have set back lines from rivers and streams, and restrictions on building in flood plains. Good idea.

Oscar, in Georgia, those are now called anti-business over-government bad regulations, dontcha know.

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Interesting graphic on areas of the country vulnerable to various types of natural disasters.

http://www.agiweb.org/gap/workgroup/USHazPoster.pdf

Seem we need to relocate everyone to Montana, Wyoming, parts of New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado and northern Wisconsin if we want to live in risk free areas.

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Stop the presses: Rude Pundit has posted something insightful AND sufficiently clean I can actually quote it here!

http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2012/10/a-filthy-end-to-filthy-campaign-of.html

[W]e use the cute phrase “flip-flop” to describe Romney’s change in positions. But they’re not mere shifts in position. They’re lies that get to the core of the man’s beliefs, such as they aren’t. And we could ask if Romney was lying in the past, when he was very moderate, then intensely conservative, or now, when he’s somewhat more moderate again. But, except for abortion, Romney refuses to admit that he’s changed his position. That’s the big lie, the one he has gotten away with more than any other, the one that’s winked at as if “That’s just Mitt.”

(No worries, the rest of the post still has plenty o’ filth to savor, from He Who Proudly Lowers the Level of Political Discourse.)

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Joe Hussein Mama

November 1st, 2012
12:11 pm

Fred — “Why do you militant atheists feel the urge to bash Christianity at every turn?”

A hit dog hollers.
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5 smart ass answers but not one with class. Ok. i get it.

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“Check the tape. Originally pointed the ignorance of rebuilding at locations that were destroyed by storms in ‘62 and aught 12.”

exactly – AREAS – not individual houses.

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Our President just blasted mitt in his final stump speech.

Great stuff.

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Fred — “5 smart ass answers but not one with class. Ok. i get it.”

Your classless query got no better answers than it deserved.

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Classic George Will for those here who have the fortitude to read..

economic themes of Obama’s campaign have been that outsourcing jobs is sinful and that he saved GM, which assembles 70 percent of its vehicles on lines outside America. He thinks that ATMs and airport ticket kiosks cause unemployment but may understand that buying an iPhone involves outsourcing to China the jobs of assembling it. Although his campaign slogan is “Forward!” he evidently wants America to compete with China in the manufacture of T-shirts and toasters. His third economic theme — that he will “invest in” (spend on) this and that — has been inaudible amid the clatter of crashing companies he has invested in.

He’s a tough one to debate…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/george-will-obamas-empty-strident-campaign/2012/10/31/a674ca54-237d-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html

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@JHM

So that leaves us with that tiny bit of Idaho near the Canadian border?

Bleaaaaach!

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Good question:

http://www.alternet.org/election-2012/1-not-so-simple-pretty-funny-question-73-white-evangelicals-who-will-apparently-be

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Joe Hussein Mama

November 1st, 2012
12:18 pm

Fred — “5 smart ass answers but not one with class. Ok. i get it.”

Your classless query got no better answers than it deserved.
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You aren’t the arbitrator ion class, far from it, and you are as bad as a damn Republican for NEVER admitting fault for your lack of manners, class, or knowledge. I don’t know why I keep taking you off the ignore list “ounkin.”

You get bored I guess and just look for someone to target to fight with. Go fight with your own bitter self.

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You know the thing the” Christian” people do is include the church in these lies your man Romney bring in with him. You endorse this stuff and then when it doesn’t happen you have the baggage of people associating the church with the sorry politicians and with liars. You have turned the church into your market place.

The right loves to “me too or you too” every argument thrown at them. And when they are called liars their defense quiet often without facts is you guys are liars too or yesterday’s line was we are inclusive too after the show stealing display in New Jersey. Well you get no where out slinging mud with these guys in this day and time, the press loves it and like a cat fight just lets it go to build up their ratings, never judging who was right or wrong or caring or trying to stop it. Obama doesn’t bring the church into this low brow gathering, he doesn’t allow people to judge this activity and associate it to the Christian movement, something I can assure you God does not endorse either. God has been out of the far right Christian movement a long time, He was replaced by politicians and lobbies. Humans will make mistakes and eventually the daylight forms between the real God and these power thirsty want to bes, but as Newt has displayed that doesn’t stop this train of artificial glory.

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Don’t get me started on “Christians”……..

The boardwalk in Atlantic city is gone.

Major event.

Devastation.

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“The boardwalk in Atlantic city is gone.”

because of teh gheys

or maybe because of the pill

it’s a toss-up

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