Rasmussen polling data make Obama the favorite
I don’t know who will win the presidency come Nov. 6. I do know, however, that at this point, based on polling, Barack Obama remains the clear favorite to win an electoral-college majority.
I understand that’s a controversial statement among some. Sites such as Nate Silver’s fivethirtyeight.com have become targets of sustained attacks and critiques by supporters of Mitt Romney for making similar statements. But it’s nonetheless true.
To document that claim, let’s take a look at the race using a data source that ought to sidestep all conservative claims of “skewed polling” and “media bias,” etc. Let’s examine it using numbers generated solely by Rasmussen, using definitions of “leaning” and “tossup” states as applied by Rasmussen. And before we do, let’s take a moment to establish just how Republican-leaning the Rasmussen numbers really are by looking at state polling data.
Colorado: Rasmussen has Romney up by four points, which is a fairly large margin. Yet of the 10 polls released in that state in the last two weeks, eight have Obama up. The only only other poll showing a Romney lead in Colorado — an American Research Group poll released Oct. 28 — has Romney up by just one.
Ohio: Of the 21 polls released in the past two weeks, only one — Rasmussen — has Romney in the lead, in Rasmussen’s case a lead of two points. Most other polls give Obama a two-to-five-point lead.
Wisconsin: Rasmussen’s latest poll, released Oct. 25, puts Paul Ryan’s home state in a tie. Every other poll conducted in the state since Aug. 21 — more than two dozen in all — has put Obama ahead, the most recent ones by a margin of two to six points.
Now, it may turn out that Rasmussen is right and almost everyone else is wrong. That can’t be discounted. But for our purposes, there’s no doubt that by using Rasmussen in our analysis, we are using numbers most favorable to the Republican cause.
And what does Rasmussen tell us?
Well, if you look at its electoral college map, using Rasmussen-generated polling data, we find the following breakdown:
Obama and Obama-leaning states: 237 electoral votes
Romney and Romney-leaning states: 206 electoral votes
Tossups: 95 electoral votes
In other words, to get to the magical 270 electoral votes, Romney needs to win 64 of the 95 tossup votes available. That’s 67.4 percent, or two out of three available votes.
To get to the magical 270 votes, Obama needs to win just 33 of the 95 tossup votes, basically a little more than one out of every three tossup votes.
That’s why Obama is the favorite. Having to win one out of three is a lot easier than having to win two out of three.
It is true, of course, that favorites don’t always win. The Florida Gators were favored over the Georgia Bulldogs last week in Jacksonville, but the Gators got beat. Six turnovers will do that to you almost every time, and that’s a turn of events that the oddsmakers didn’t anticipate. Likewise, it is entirely feasible that come Tuesday — especially given a somewhat wacky polling environment — Obama will join the Gators on the long list of favorites who went down in defeat.
But using the data source most favorable to the Republican cause, that’s not the way to bet.
– Jay Bookman
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Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
1:43 pm
Brocephus? What’s your Saturday look like? Got some decent afternoon football before the big Saturday night blow out…………..
I want to check this place out. I saw it listed as one of the top 10 sports bars in America……
http://www.statsatl.com/
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
@BRO
I hope you are right, but corporate America has been in the “do more with less” mindset for 10 years now.
In order to get the less back to more, we will need a lot more of the “more”.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 31st, 2012
1:44 pm
I’m a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with…cause we’re smart and they are not
October 31st, 2012
1:18 pm
And what the Hell does ANYONE see in the guy. He’s a walking piece of incompetent ideologue who the press in covering up for him.
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As opposed to hiding from the press?:
It’s been nearly three weeks since Mitt Romney’s last interview (if you count sitting down with Newsmax to be an interview) and it’s been more than a month since he last answered a question from his traveling press pool.
Compare that with President Obama who in just the past two weeks has sat down for interviews with NBC’s Brian Williams, at least seven local news stations, and the Des Moines Register editorial board. The president also took a question from a White House reporter following his Hurricane Sandy statement and agreed to interviews with The Tonight Show’s Jay Leno, The Daily Show’s Jon Stewart and MTV’s Sway Calloway. And keep in mind that President Obama did all that even though he doesn’t have the luxury of being able to make campaigning his full-time job.
Given the closeness of this race, you’d think Romney would take advantage of every opportunity available to him to get his message out, especially with President Obama making himself available. Instead, Romney’s running from the media. So here’s the question: What’s Mitt afraid of?
~Jed Lewison @ DK
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
That’s a better-reasoned answer than “he’s a Marxist Kenyan anti-colonialist who hates America,” or some version thereof, which we often hear from her opposite number.
I’ll go one better. It’s a better reasoned answer than “he added trillions to the debt”.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
So, now after all of the Rasmussen polls that favored Romney were not valid, according to liberal spin, Rasmussen now becomes the bell weather poll of the campaign. That finger in the air is alive and well.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2012
1:45 pm
oh, and speaking of well-reasoned arguments…
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2012/10/after-the-storm-anti-obama-attack-ad-finds-new-life-updated/
Stay classy, Virginia GOP.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
Jamvet…..left her 20%. That what us 1%’ers do ya know.
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
@ Jay
Yeah but it means I should consider changing my handle to “Look before I leap (usually)…”
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
’ll bet you dollars to donuts (of course depending on the donuts they may be worth more than a dollar) that the young lady doesn’t make it to the polls.
I’ll bet dollars to donuts that this young lady is just as mythical as the big __________ lady in line at Whole Foods paying for prom burka filled shopping carts with food stamps
scott
October 31st, 2012
1:46 pm
What are you libs going to do when everything comes crashing down on you next Tuesday? Well…i know we will have to wait probably a few more weeks because you will be whining about getting cheated….that the election was stolen….your normal playbook. For Obama to be neck and neck at this point of the election is not good. It sure isn’t going to get any better for you. Even his lame attempt at caring by actually sitting in the situation room for briefings when a serious situation emerged(its funny how he couldn’t do the same thing when 4 Americans were being killed in Libya though) will not fool the American voters. He is done and we can finally turn the page on this joke of a POTUS amateur who is in WAYYYYY over his head over to somebody who actually knows what he is doing. 6 more days and then a couple more months of lameduck. Hopefully, this idiot cannot destroy the country any more than he has the last 4 years. Hopefully, Al Quaida won’t attack another embassy so this clown will not cost more American lives through his inaction and ineptitude. Think about it…if he wasn’t willing to do anything while running for reelection…..what will he do after getting stomped? I hope he doesn’t make good on his promise to Russia to offer more flexibility after the election.
Jay
October 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
No way, Tech Man. Mama didn’t raise no fool!
james
October 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
Jay, If you go back to 2008, Rasmussen was the only poll that was consistently on target. All of the other polls came close as they tried to correct their mistakes to give themselves a pat on the back. Rather listen to Rasmussen than you concerning the polls.Yours are just wishfull thinking.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
You were talking to someone who DOESN’T worship talk radio.
….who was undoubtedly trying to get back to her job instead of listening to some guy trying to engage his “cute twentysomething” server in feverish political obsession.
I was a relatively cute twentysomething at one time and it’s amazing how many men think they’re entitled to your time. You could explain Einstein’s theory to them and they’d still pronounce you a bimbo. You might as well say as little as possible and get the hell away from them ASAP.
Has anyone polled the gas station guy yet?
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
Fred
I’ve been wanting to check that place out for a while. Any spot that has beer taps at the table can’t be bad. Mommy will be at work, so it will be me and the sidekick watching football together all evening. We may have to put something together at that spot though, as I really want to take a peek inside that place.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
I guess I could of kept asking, like the polls do, until someone told me ” He’s just a loser doing a bad job.”
Rightwing Troll
October 31st, 2012
1:48 pm
I’ll go one better. It’s a better reasoned answer than “he added trillions to the debt by paying W’s bills”.
There, now it’s factual AND true…
Rightwing Troll
October 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
Ewww… (squeals excitedly…) we have ANOTHER 1% frequenting the libural blog… thats 2 now… we’re uptown!!!
Mick
October 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
Momentum swings can change a football outcome as we all have seen. In politics, the same can be true and mitt had his moment in the sun but the momentum shift seems to be going in the incumbents direction as we near the close out. I think the new jersey governor did obama a big favor extolling his leadership during this crisis in the northeast. Romney has been flat since his big night in colorado, the air is out of the ballon and his latest round of silly car commercials makes him look rather small minded and desperate…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2012
1:51 pm
Aquagirl, what? You are suggesting that them Hootergirls are not really interested and hanging on those questions and interplay that some old geezer says and may just be “playing along” in hopes of bigger tips? Shocking I tell ya!!!!
Has anyone polled the gas station guy yet? — josef? [apologies to josef
]
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
I hope you are right, but corporate America has been in the “do more with less” mindset for
1030- 40 years now.That mindset won’t change. What will change is when the “less” can’t keep pace with the demand. That will require hiring of more, which will increase the circulation of money through the economy. Our economy works in cycles. For a while, we were in a “doom” cycle where everything was leading to us going downward. Now, we have reversed and are beginning a climb upward. It starts as a trickle and begins to pick up steam as more and more people have more money for consumption. No business will turn down the opportunity to make more money, even if that requires hiring more people.
Z
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
President Obama has been up in most of the toss up states for months according to the poles, I don’t see those states changing horses in these last few days.
Republicans, they’re either Rich or they just don’t know the facts, open your wallet to see which one you are.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
james — “Jay, If you go back to 2008, Rasmussen was the only poll that was consistently on target.”
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. That doesn’t mean that the stopped clock is right at any other time.
After the 2010 midterm elections, Silver concluded that Rasmussen’s polls were the least accurate of the major pollsters in 2010, having an average error of 5.8 points and a pro-Republican bias of 3.9 points according to Silver’s model. He singled out as an example the Hawaii Senate race, in which Rasmussen, in a poll completed three weeks before the election, showed incumbent Daniel Inouye only 13 points ahead, whereas in actuality he won by a 53% margin – a difference of 40 points from Rasmussen’s poll, or “the largest error ever recorded in a general election in FiveThirtyEight’s database, which includes all polls conducted since 1998″.
Emphasis mine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports#Nate_Silver
scott
October 31st, 2012
1:52 pm
Granny. You are joking right? You are actually hyping up Obama talkign with the media and havign press conferences? Were you okay with his transparency when he went months without holding press conferences? The guy hides every chance he gets. Oh…and his appearance with Brian Williams and Jon Stewart really count for something don’t they? I am sure they asked all of the tough questions, didn’t they? I’m sorry but a question like “what is your favorite color?” hardly proves that he is up in front of the media fielding tough questions. But I guess it fools simple-minded people like yourself so it works to some extent.
Adam
October 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
“Statistically unlikely” and “very possible” are not mutually exclusive terms. In fact, they can represent two ways of stating the same reality.
Hey, where are all the people who say Jay is “far left” right about now?
Splavistic
October 31st, 2012
1:53 pm
Obama WILL win. There is no doubt about it amongst the bookies, worldwide. The media is just trying to keep the hype alive to sell more ads. Obama is going to be a clear winner, and the GOP is going to implode. Finally.
TJ
October 31st, 2012
1:54 pm
My question is “how are all those displaced people in the NE gonna get to the polls?” A miracle in the works if all those voting spots get up and running by Tuesday. No matter who wins, there will be lawsuits claiming folks were denied their right to vote….Food for thought…
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
1:54 pm
Kam: I disagree. That sounds like an answer a 20 year old would give. You know me lol, i ask that question to youngsters all the time as well as to adults. Did you check out that link on my 1:43?
Bro: I just googled their location. They are also by Legal Seafood, who I THINK has gotten some really good reviews………… I want to eat there sometime as well. Legal Seafood has an inauguration party lol.
Tundra Dude
October 31st, 2012
1:55 pm
I’ll go one better. It’s a better reasoned answer than “he added trillions to the debt by paying W’s bills”.
There, now it’s factual AND true…
Senator Hatch would agree:
” Six years ago, it was standard practice not to pay for things,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah. “We were concerned about it, because it certainly added to the deficit, no question.”
Jefferson
October 31st, 2012
1:55 pm
The GOP crap eaters, have an aquired taste for it.
Adam
October 31st, 2012
1:55 pm
scott: What are you libs going to do when everything comes crashing down on you next Tuesday?
Scott, how would you like to put that to a wager?
Adam
October 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Splavistic: Obama is going to be a clear winner,
Yes he is.
and the GOP is going to implode. Finally.
Nope. They will live on.
Dean
October 31st, 2012
1:56 pm
Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters out there. NBC, CNN and CBS are the worst. Even my Obama-leaning neighbor admits as much. The media will do and say anything to re-elect this incompetent president. Obama was in Ohio recently stating to his drones that he does what he says? Really? Since when? One would have to be an idiot or drugged to believe that. Bottom line is this — if you’re unemployed or on food stamps and want to remain unemployed or on food stamps, vote for Barack Obama.
Tech Man
October 31st, 2012
1:58 pm
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2012
1:47 pm
Wait staff income is based on tips. Yes, you would give your customer’s time.
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
1:58 pm
“I’ll go one better. It’s a better reasoned answer than “he added trillions to the debt”.”
Well at least that comment is factually correct. But misleading.
As an avowed Keynesian, that fact that we added to the debt during the worst economic downturn in 80 years, is to me, a good thing.
That said, some of the spending was questionable. Would like to have seen more investment in infrastructure or at least have the states use the money handed over used for that purpose as opposed to shoring up sagging state coffers and balancing their budgets.
Jefferson
October 31st, 2012
1:59 pm
If the GOP loses, they will be sore losers and do even more harm to the US than before. End of year won’t be funny.
There was a day when they would have pulled together to help the US, but cheerio screwer GOP senators and the pin heads tea potty reps are plain children.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
1:59 pm
Dean — “Rasmussen is one of the most accurate pollsters out there.”
Based on what, exactly?
Jay
October 31st, 2012
1:59 pm
Rasmussen had a good year in 2008, a bad year in 2010. In Nevada, it had Sharron Angle winning by four; she lost by five. In Hawaii, it had Inouye winning by 13. He won by 48. It also overestimated the performance of GOP candidates by almost four points on average.
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
2:00 pm
Fred
One of my co-workers has recommended Legal a few times. They have a location at Crystal City in Alexandria, VA near the Hilton, but I missed a few opportunities to check them out when I was in the area up there.
Jefferson
October 31st, 2012
2:00 pm
Dean is full.
Lord Help Us
October 31st, 2012
2:00 pm
Cons will eat Mitt alive starting next Wednesday morning…
He will join Sarah on a reality show by Summer and be humping reverse mortgages like Fred Thompson in a couple of years…
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:00 pm
Wo…….. it’s the end of the month, my welfare check must be in. Time to go get some beer and my Obama phone.
Barack's the best
October 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
I asked a friend the other night who he’d be voting for. His response: “I left South Africa for one reason [blacks] and there’s no way in hell I’d vote for the African.” I’m not kidding. To which I responded: “If we were to look at the past 4 years with some degree of objectivity, you’d actually see that he [the African] has done a pretty good job.” His response: “Don’t care what he has done or not done; he’s black.”
There ya have it, folks. Welcome to the South.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2012
2:02 pm
President Obama has been up in most of the toss up states for months according to the poles
but enough about the Presidential erections.
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:04 pm
Has anyone polled the gas station guy yet?
I use Qiktrip, they are on the average extremely intelligent and aware of what’s going on, it wouldn’t be a fair sampling.
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
“…but enough about the Presidential erections.”
Have we not had enough China bashing here for one day?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
Fred — “They are also by Legal Seafood, who I THINK has gotten some really good reviews………… I want to eat there sometime as well.”
Legal Sea Foods was MUCH better 10-15 years ago, IMO. They used high-quality fish and seafood and prepared it simply. In short, they let the fish/seafood shine on its own. They offered a Chef’s Choice; three small (3-4 oz) portions of whatever fish the chef felt like giving you, and I *never* was served a bad one of those.
Now, IMO, they’ve tarted up the menu with some gee-whiz preparations that sometimes overwhelm the still-great quality fish and shellfish on the menu. My advice when dining at Legal: have the chowda for an appetizer, then stick with anything prepared *simply.* If they need more than a single phrase to describe how it’s prepared, stay away from it.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:06 pm
SAVE THE EARTH- RECYCLE JOKES
Last Thursday while walking to lunch on the corner of Market and East Bay, I passed what appeared to be a homeless man standing on the corner of Wentworth and East Bay holding a hand-made sign that read, “Vote Obama, I need the money.”, I laughed to myself and admired the man for his misplaced, albeit blatant honesty.
Once inside one of my favorite restaurants, I noticed that my waiter was wearing a bright blue ,“Obama 12” tie; again I laughed to myself as he boldly and proudly advertised his political preference for all the world, and his customers, to see — just imagine the odds of encountering two such 1st Amendment harbingers of change in less than 10-minutes.
When the check finally came I decided not to tip my waiter and explained to him that I was going to implement a practical application of Obama’s Redistribution of Wealth concept as my own personal socialistic experiment. He stood there in stoic disbelief as I explained to him that I was going to redistribute his rightfully earned $10 tip to someone who I deemed more in need…a homeless fellow standing a few blocks north in front of the Harris Teeter parking lot.
Tech Man
October 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
Lord Help Us
October 31st, 2012
2:00 pm
I doubt that. What is a mere 1% return on $200 million? He doesn’t need a tv income.
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
Barack’s the best
October 31st, 2012
2:01 pm
I asked a friend the other night who he’d be voting for. His response: “I left South Africa for one reason [blacks] and there’s no way in hell I’d vote for the African.”
There ya have it, folks. Welcome to the South.
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Really? THAT is the limit to your reasoning ability? you take a statement of someone FROM ANOTHER F’ING COUNTRY who was raised to hate black people and blame it on the SOUTH?
Are you a complete moron?
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
Look before
It’s stories like this that has me believing our economy will recover quite well.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-hurricane–five-workers-and-1-000-pizzas.html
Logical Dude
October 31st, 2012
2:07 pm
Fred: They are also by Legal Seafood, who I THINK has gotten some really good reviews…
I support and endorse Legal Seafood. although the one (many) in Boston are likely even better.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
Brosephus — “One of my co-workers has recommended Legal a few times. They have a location at Crystal City in Alexandria, VA near the Hilton, but I missed a few opportunities to check them out when I was in the area up there.”
Given your occupation, these might work for you:
There used to be one at National Airport, waaaaay down on the left side of the concourse (as you’re looking out at the runways).
There was also one in the B terminal at Boston’s Logan International.
Both of these locations had limited menus IIRC, though.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2012
2:08 pm
Have we not had enough China bashing here for one day?
Agleed.
(slaps wrist, waits for “your comment is awaiting moderation…”)
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
Take a hard look at Rasmussen’s electoral map. Projected for Bozo, including the leaning and probables, 237 EV. Projected for Romney, 206, including the leaning and probables. That leaves the toss ups, CO 9, FL 29, IA 6, NH 4, NV 6, OH 18, VA 13 and WI 10. These are all toss ups, according to Rasmussen, meaning that they could go either way. Romney needs 64 to win. If you count CO with 9, FL with 29, OH with 18 and VA with 13, this gives Romney additional 69 EVs putting him at 275 and he wouldn’t even have to carry NH, NV, IA or WI, all of which could be in play. All Romney needs is CO, FL, OH and VA and this is a done deal. These states are called tossups for a reason. So don’t start celebrating yet, libs. This ain’t over by a long shot.
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
JHM: Thanks, I thought it was a new place lol. I’ll have to do more research. I must have it confused with a different place.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:09 pm
“President Obama has revealed his new re-election slogan — ‘Forward.’ That’s a good message for Obama. He’s telling voters, ‘Whatever you do, don’t look back at all those campaign promises I made.’
– Jay Leno
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
“President Obama will begin a three-state bus tour. I believe the three states are confusion, delusion, and desperation. ” —Jay Leno
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:10 pm
U. Samantha — “When the check finally came I decided not to tip my waiter and explained to him that I was going to implement a practical application of Obama’s Redistribution of Wealth concept as my own personal socialistic experiment.”
Ha ha! (slaps thigh)
You f****d a wage-earner out of a tip! THAT will teach him to vote for someone you don’t approve of!
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:11 pm
“President Obama is slated to appear on one of Oprah’s last shows. He’s hoping it’s the one on which she gives away 14 trillion dollars.” –Conan O’Brien
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:12 pm
I support and endorse Legal Seafood. although the one (many) in Boston are likely even better.
Yeah I know EVERYTHING is better “up north” which puzzles me because if it’s so much better how come we can’t get you damn carpetbagging Yankees to LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry, you teed that one so high that I HAD to drive it down range with a faux poutrage
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:13 pm
Fred — “JHM: Thanks, I thought it was a new place lol. I’ll have to do more research. I must have it confused with a different place.”
There’s only been a Legal in Atlanta for a couple of years, but the ones in the Boston and DC areas have been there for much longer. There’s also one in Palm Beach; don’t know how old that one is.
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
@kayaker
1 scenario out of how many?
I don’t think any thinking voter (con or lib) believes this is over.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2012
2:14 pm
Yes, you would give your customer’s time.
Sure. I worked non-tipping jobs like fast food and was still pleasant to customers. But frankly men who ask anyone personal $#!^ about politics and religion are creepy. They’re also likely to get a vapid-sounding generic non-answer, especially if they’re asking a woman.
In that situation older men don’t usually reward young women for being independent minded, plenty want @$$-kissing and ego stroking so they can feel superior to the dumb bimbo clearing their table. If they’re really interested in the waitress’s political opinions they’re the exception, not the rule.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
Fred — “Yeah I know EVERYTHING is better “up north” which puzzles me because if it’s so much better how come we can’t get you damn carpetbagging Yankees to LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Yankees? Dude, I moved here from Hawaii. The whole US mainland is Yankees as far as Hawaiians are concerned. They’re actually in the tropics out there.
“Sorry, you teed that one so high that I HAD to drive it down range with a faux poutrage.”
Well done, sir!
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:15 pm
JHM: Oh then. That’s what I thought. I new it was a “high end” chain like McCormick and Scmicks, but thought also that it was fairly new here. I usually avoid chains, but M&S’s showed me they can still be good.
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:17 pm
In that situation older men don’t usually reward young women for being independent minded, plenty want @$$-kissing and ego stroking so they can feel superior to the dumb bimbo clearing their table. If they’re really interested in the waitress’s political opinions they’re the exception, not the rule.
Wow, what a bitter bitter soul. I thought I was cynical…………
Look before I leap...
October 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
@JHM
Samantha only flipped the bird at a 47 percenter.
Had it been Romney, he woulda said:
I am going to invest that $10 for you, end up making $100 in dividends and you MIGHT have a job at the end of it.
Fred ™
October 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
Well it’s USMC’s and my favorite time. Ya’ll have fun……..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmcJWPYcr1I
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:18 pm
“The Republicans are so happy about bin Laden they’ve granted President Obama full citizenship.” –David Letterman
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
2:19 pm
JHM
I think the National Airport location is in Concourse C where US Airways operates. I haven’t ventured that far down when in DCA as I’m usually ticketed through Delta or Airtran/Southwest. I can’t recall seeing one in Logan, but I don’t remember which terminal I went through either. About the only thing I can remember is the long assed walk from Terminal A to the Hilton right at the airport. The one good thing about that particular trip was the hotel staff gave me a corner room overlooking the 9/11 Memorial.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:20 pm
“President Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan, he sent the Navy in to shoot at pirates in the Indian Ocean, and now he’s attacking Libya. It’s like he took the Nobel Peace Prize as an insult.” –Jimmy Kimmel
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:21 pm
“President Obama said he was always getting in trouble when he was in middle school. In fact, Obama said he talked so much during class, the teacher had to take away his teleprompter.” –Jimmy Fallon
indigo
October 31st, 2012
2:21 pm
Brosephus – 1:52 “when the “less” can’t keep pace with the demand”
Unfortunately, it’s far more likely Corporate America will do their hiring overseas and, one more time, screw the American worker.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2012
2:22 pm
Aquagirl: In that situation older men don’t usually reward young women for being independent minded, plenty want @$$-kissing and ego stroking so they can feel superior to the dumb bimbo clearing their table. If they’re really interested in the waitress’s political opinions they’re the exception, not the rule.
I’m sorry, I was not listening…..I was looking down your tight shirt. What was that about stroking?
Mick
October 31st, 2012
2:25 pm
samantha @ 2:06
That is some really bad logic on your part and proves that there’s a dim bulb needing change…
Jm
October 31st, 2012
2:26 pm
Jay 1:31
I had the exact same thought when I read that from Adam
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 31st, 2012
2:27 pm
“Mama didn’t raise no fool!” When someone said that to me, my answer always was “what? You got siblings?”
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:28 pm
Q: What does Barack Obama call illegal aliens?
A: Undocumented democrats.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:29 pm
Brosephus — ” I can’t recall seeing one in Logan, but I don’t remember which terminal I went through either.”
This would have been pre-renovation, but it used to be in the terminal that served Delta and United.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 31st, 2012
2:29 pm
Q: How do you know your doctor is not a fan of Obama’s Health Care Plan?
A: He/she has remodeled the waiting room with death paneling.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2012
2:29 pm
Wow, what a bitter bitter soul. I thought I was cynical…
Fred, are you really under the impression an older guy trying to engage a young waitress in political discussion is not usually a dicey situation for the young woman?
I use blunt terms because most men have never really thought about what life is like from anything but their perspective. So if you think I’m cynical it’s simply a complete lack of empathy. You’ve seen responses here to me and other clearly female posters like DDR. It’s just part of life for us and we deal with it and move on.
Erwin's cat
October 31st, 2012
2:29 pm
JHM – Legal Sea Foods was MUCH better 10-15 years ago,
I’d have to agree, but I still make an effort to change plans in Boston when possible to at least visit the ones in the airport
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Unfortunately, it’s far more likely Corporate America will do their hiring overseas and, one more time, screw the American worker.
Nah, they can only do that so much. Just as a farmer can’t make a living by planting his crops on a neighbors farmland, Corporate America has to put money into America at some point in order to continue to have a customer base here. They are smart and shrewd business people, and I’m sure they understand that better than anybody else. It’s a game of risk, and without risks there are no rewards. You don’t risk any more than you are willing to lose though. These companies are not going to risk losing the protections of America as they would not have it as easy in other countries as they have it here. That’s why you won’t see the rich abandon ship as there are very few places they can go and live as they do here.
Dawgs88
October 31st, 2012
2:31 pm
Getting nervous I take it Jay?
As a political scientist, it’s common knowledge that nearly every poll over samples Democrats by at least 3 to 5%. That’s why most polls aren’t taken seriously. An incumbent like Obama who’s constantly under 50% in approval rating across the country faces a steep hill for reelection. Also even ABC news even reported that the gap in Pennsylvania and Minnesota was closing in Romney’s favor so yeah…… Election day will tell the tale.
Recon 0311 2533
October 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
K71@2:09,
They’re only trying to deal with their fear.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2012
2:32 pm
More info on the slimey Mitt relief event efforts. And to be clear, the slimey part is the false attribution of “donated” items to attendees rather than the campaign. And some conned foolishly bragged about Mitt’s $5000 donation. The deafness of Mitt and his staff to real people is simply dumbfounding and offensive:
campaign aides reportedly spent $5,000 at a local Wal-Mart on supplies that could be put on display. When supporters arrived at the rally-turned-relief event, they were treated to the 10-minute video about Romney’s life, which was first unveiled at the RNC. The event ended with supporters lined up to hand over supplies and meet Romney. But according to BuzzFeed, this donation process was also staged:
Empty-handed supporters pled for entrance, with one woman asking, “What if we dropped off our donations up front?”
The volunteer gestured toward a pile of groceries conveniently stacked near the candidate. “Just grab something,” he said.
Two teenage boys retrieved a jar of peanut butter each, and got in line. When it was their turn, they handed their “donations” to Romney. He took them, smiled, and offered an earnest “Thank you.”
I SEE RED PEOPLE
October 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
I have a strong feeling that Jay will be blogging about Republican claims of widespread voter fraud on or about November 10, 2012.
Jm
October 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Mitt Romney at top of google news searches
Obama nowhere on the list
joe
October 31st, 2012
2:33 pm
Don’t believe what the MSM tells you…polls mean nothing.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
E. Cat — “I’d have to agree, but I still make an effort to change plans in Boston when possible to at least visit the ones in the airport”
And if you’re actually *staying* in the Boston area, it’s well worth the drive up to Essex, MA for a heaping helping of Woodman’s fried clams.
Erwin's cat
October 31st, 2012
2:34 pm
Brosephus — ” I can’t recall seeing one in Logan, but I don’t remember which terminal I went through either.”
There’s one in the main terminal and a Legal Seafood to go in the Delta terminal (i forget the number/letter)
Joe Hussein Mama
October 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
Dawg88 — “As a political scientist, it’s common knowledge that nearly every poll over samples Democrats by at least 3 to 5%.”
I don’t think you’re actually a political scientist and I don’t think you know very much about polling.
Mick
October 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
recon
Amateur pyschological sleuthing or bad case of projection?
Jm
October 31st, 2012
2:35 pm
Tuesday folks. Tuesday and it’s done…..
Jay
October 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
“As a political scientist, it’s common knowledge that nearly every poll over samples Democrats by at least 3 to 5%.
You’re a political scientist like I’m an NBA superstar. No political scientist would ever be caught saying something that silly in public.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
Mitt Romney at top of google news searches. Obama nowhere on the list
Yeah, people know where Obama is but everyone’s lost track of Mittens.
Brosephus™
October 31st, 2012
2:36 pm
JHM
Gotcha. Next time I have to go up that way, I’ll make sure to block off time in my schedule to hit them up while I’m there. There’s a spot in Warwick, RI (Providence) right across from the train station that’s connected to the airport that has the best scallops I’ve had anywhere. The restaurant is attached to a Hilton Garden Inn, and it’s called the Ironworks Tavern. I had their fried scallops, and I’ve been trying to find a reason to fly back up there just to eat there.
Recon 0311 2533
October 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
The libs have the heat on Rasmussen. I guess they’ve forgotten Gallup who was under fire just a few days ago. BTW….Gallup’s reporting that 16% of Democrats will be voting for Romney.
Adam
October 31st, 2012
2:37 pm
It is at this point I feel it important to reiterate that I look at Nate Silver for this stuff because he has been more accurate than anyone when it comes to the statistical analysis of the data, in BOTH 208, AND in 2010, as well as for Walker’s recall. He knows what he is doing and is far less fuzzy about it than most.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 31st, 2012
2:38 pm
He’s not a political scientist but he does play one on TV?