Fox New anchors, right-wing websites and talk-radio hosts around the country are ginning up a wave of mass hysteria about the decision by the Obama administration not to attempt a military rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. (Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria. I kid you not.)
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.
But I have a question.
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.
As Defense Secretary Leon Panetta explained, “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
That would be Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They are men of training and experience; they know where our military assets are located; they know their capabilities, and they know the difficulties involved in inserting and extracting an armed force into an uncertain situation in another country.
It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. But that is real life. This is not a Hollywood movie.
Here’s how Fox News reported the news above:
The most provocative piece of that report is the claim that a Special Forces team stationed at an air base in Signonella, Italy, two hours from Benghazi, was ready to intervene but orders were never given. But here’s how such mass hysteria gets fed by partial information, in both senses of the word “partial”. As it turned out, the Special Forces team in question was not based in Sigonella but had to be assembled and transported there from elsewhere in Europe.
“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”
Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor.
That makes no sense. It is such a ridiculous notion that in most eras it would never even be broached in public debate. But this is an era in which many are predisposed to believe the most ridiculous things if it justifies their hatred of Obama, and a time in which when emotions are heightened by a hard-fought presidential campaign. So nonsense reigns.
– Jay Bookman
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Logical Dude
October 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
Yep, that’s the way to “wait for all the information” to come in from the ground.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
10 questions:
1.) To whom did the president give the first of his “three very clear directives”—that is, “make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to?”
2.) How did he transmit this directive to the military and other agencies?
3.) During the time when Americans were under attack, did the president convene a formal or informal meeting of his national security council? Did the president go to the situation room?
4.) During this time, with which members of the national security team did the president speak directly?
5.) Did Obama speak by phone or teleconference with the combatant commanders who would have sent assistance to the men under attack?
6.) Did he speak with CIA director David Petraeus?
7.) Was the president made aware of the repeated requests for assistance from the men under attack? When and by whom?
8.) Did he issue any directives in response to these requests?
9.) Did the president refuse to authorize an armed drone strike on the attackers?
10.) Did the president refuse to authorize a AC-130 or MC-130 to enter Libyan airspace during the attack?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Well jm is going to get a chance to share all his brilliance regarding that Sicilian base.
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
I thought we wore this one out last night…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
DowninAlbany… you forgot Liz Cheney’s “Mr. President, did you go to sleep that night?”
Mr. President, did you actually step away to go to the bathroom?
Mr. President, why did you not micromanage your military commanders?
Mr. President, do you know why my father lied to the American people and why he never answered these questions regarding his lies?
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Sounds par for the course for the wingnuts. They are devoid of honor.
Tom Rogers
October 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
Tyrone Wood said everything that needs to be said about Obama and his paper tigers: “Where the (bleep) is the Spectre?”
Rightwing Troll
October 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
8 WATERGATES!!!!… 8… COUNT THEM…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
“RIGHT WING HYSTERIA… Blah, Blah, Blah…”- JAY BOOKMAN
LOL! It sounds like JAY is showing us his LEFT-WING HYSTERIA!
Getting nervous, Jay???
Tick tock, tick toc, tick tock, tick tock!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
10.) Did the president refuse to authorize a AC-130 or MC-130 to enter Libyan airspace during the attack?
11.) Which rental car agency was responsible for ground transportation from the airfield [Hertz, Avis, Budget or Enterprise]
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Republicans and there faith-based realities.
“I say it so it must be so otherwise God would not let me say it is so.”
Rightwing Troll
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
“Sounds par for the course for the wingnuts. They are devoid of honor.”
And truth, credibility, honesty, morals… the list goes on and on…
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
DowninAlbany… you forgot Liz Cheney’s “Mr. President, did you go to sleep that night?”
Mr. President, did you actually step away to go to the bathroom?
Mr. President, why did you not micromanage your military commanders?
Mr. President, do you know why my father lied to the American people and why he never answered these questions regarding his lies?
EXACTLY the answer I anticipated. Defend and deflect!
Logical Dude
October 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. ”
Okay, when did they ask, when were they denied?
Now, it can be argued that the terrorists/ militants / activists/ freedom fighters were just going after the CIA and not the Ambassador.
Because, you know, the CIA has such good standing worldwide.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
10.) Did the president refuse to authorize a AC-130 or MC-130 to enter Libyan airspace during the attack?
11.) Which rental car agency was responsible for ground transportation from the airfield [Hertz, Avis, Budget or Enterprise]
More of the same…defend and deflect! Thanks for confirming my suspicions!
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
I’m going to ask the same question I asked last night. You’re the Man at 1600. The call comes in. What would you do?
JosyJo
October 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Sure it’s a right wing conspiracy….unless it is your son who is killed waiting 7 hours for help that never came with three request denied. Two drones were there most likely with weapons that could have aided these men. Yes it’s a right wing conspiracy if you are a liberal who wants this to go away so you can elect a president who blames this on a video to save his job and goes out to campaign that day after these men lost their lives and blamed their murders on a video for weeks and weeks after. And I guess you can call it a right wing conspiracy if you are the liberal press who wear Vote Obama badges instead of Press badges.
Cspike
October 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Mr. Bookman, your reasons for Romney’s silence are unimaginative and uncomplete. How’s this for a reason: he got tired of arguing with someone who was just going to lie. What good does it do to get into a “You did,” “No, I didn’t” confrontation?
As to the “harm’s way” argument, common sense would indicate that you would at least move forces in the direction of the conflict. Even if you decided not to engage them, at least they’d be in the vicinity. You’d have options. Not doing anything leaves you with exactly no options. You’re obviously an educated man. Doesn’t that strike you as being the least bit odd that they did NOTHING?
And you do realize that General Ham has very likely been relieved of duty since the attack. If that turns out to true, who are you going to blame then?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
josef, I don’t remember seeing jm actually concede that his claim was false. Then again, we never seen any of the wingnutz just admit tht they were wrong.
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
USMC
You better be nice to Big Daddy. He took up for you downstairs, you know.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
Suspicions? We’s got a regular Sherluck Holmes here on this blog…….
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
(Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria.
Sounds crazy to me. Then again the idea of the Obama administration running guns to Mexican drug cartels via the fast and furious program sounded crazy.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
Reports suggest that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama didn’t see things the same on Benghazi. She wanted more security for diplomatic personnel, but Obama said no.
Common Sense
October 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
One of the few duties that POTUS has is to defend the citizens of the United States. This man is not an infant or a child. He does not have to wait for someone to “advise” him.
There was a real-time feed to the White House. He chose to do nothing. Nada. Zip.
Isn’t it time you quit making excuses and start asking some hard questions? Or are you afraid of what the answers will be?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
More of the same…
defend and deflectderisive mocking!Your welcome.
Steve Gooditis
October 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
It was 9/11 for gods sake with prior attempts made not only on that embassy but on others! That was a hint and a half on your a$$ to fortify the embassy! What glaring clue could they not pick up on? Just shows that nobody has common sense!
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Enough of this. We all know it was the video’s fault.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Lt. Col. Tony Schafer told Fox News that sources were telling him that the President was watching the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya in real-time. Schafer told Fox that “only the President” could have ordered backup for the Americans who were under siege by terrorists so the President was most certainly informed of the situation as it was unfolding. “I hate to say this,” Schafer said, “according to my sources, yes, [the President] was one of those in the White House situation room in real-time watching this. And the question becomes, ‘What did the President do or not do in the moments he saw this unveiling?’ He — only he — could issue a directive to Secretary of Defense Panetta to do something.”
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Haven’t you heard, Jay. President Obama had a live feed. He’s got one everywhere. How else do you think those drones get to where he needs them when he needs them on a moment’s notice. President Obama just did not want to do anything over there and Republicans know this to be the truth because it is all part of their faith-based reality.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Reports suggest that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama didn’t see things the same on Benghazi.
Reports suggest that I will be the starting quarterback in the Super Bowl.
Class of '98
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Jay, I have never met you, but based on your picture you bear a striking resemblance to Katherine Sebelius.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Admission: Steve Gooditis has NO common sense……
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Reports suggest that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama didn’t see things the same on Benghazi.
Reports suggest that I will win the Oscar for best director.
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Good Fight
I went back this afternoon and looked at last night’s after I left…nobody, friend or foe of Barack’s, could give a rational response to what they would’ve done in the President’s shoes…
JP
October 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
Only Jay and Chris Matthews believe their god-king is telling them the truth…it was all because of a YouTube video…no really it was. Pathetic.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
I do not have much of an issue with the way the 7 hours were handled as none of us have been given enough information to know why they chose to do what they did.
All of that will come out in time.
My issue was the handling in the aftermath.
Who exactly told Jay Carney and Susan Rice to continue to lie to the American people and blame this on a you tube clip?
One would assume that those orders did have to come from very high up or the administration is running a dangerously loose ship. Allowing mouth pieces for the administration to say whatever they want.
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
“Sounds crazy to me. Then again the idea of the Obama administration running guns to Mexican drug cartels via the fast and furious program sounded crazy.”
Well, if it sounds crazy, then there must be some truth to it…obviously.
What a bunch of maroons.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
JAY,
It’s what we don’t know that we don’t know..for every source you cite that suggests this tragedy was handled with flying colors, another builds not unreasonable cases for the opposite..
Seems the right are getting under your skin with this issue as much as you on the left get out of the 47% issue…
I think the right should continue to pursue this with all vigor…despite what you said the other day, no way you and the liberal lunatic fringe that dominates this forum would hesitate to attack Romney if the shoe was on the other foot…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“You better be nice to Big Daddy. He took up for you downstairs, you know.”–josef
He did? Well hush my mouth, child! Thanks Jay. I still think Jay is nervous!
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOQOXYoOzE
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”
Jay,
I bet there is a good number of left wingers questioning this event too.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
Reports suggest that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama didn’t see things the same on Benghazi.
Reports suggest that I will be spending the evening with Candace Swanepoel.
Erwin's cat
October 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
I think Mitt had/has more than just those 2 options…just sayin’
Cspike
October 29th, 2012
4:50 pm
Logical Dude, you need to change your name to Insensitive Dude. People are dead, and you’re being snarky?
As to your questions–when did they ask, when were they denied?–that’s exactly what I’d like to know, too. But Obama ain’t saying.
You posed the questions. Why do YOU think we don’t have answers?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
“nobody, friend or foe of Barack’s, could give a rational response to what they would’ve done in the President’s shoes…”
josef,
I woulda done the same as the president and just blamed a video for 2 weeks.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Reports suggest that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama didn’t see things the same on Benghazi.
Reports suggest that I will win the Oscar for best director.
Talk about derisive mocking…pot, meet kettle!
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
“Debbie, questioning a poster’s military service — and personally, I have no doubt of USMC’s service — constitutes a personal attack on this blog. Please cease”–Jay BOOKMAN
Thank you Jay, while I COMPLETELY disagree with your politics, I really do like you.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
I’m going to ask the same question I asked last night. You’re the Man at 1600. The call comes in. What would you do?
You ask your Military and CIA what assets you have on the ground and get their asses over there, at the very least see if any drones are around.
To lie to the American public is a disgrace, and if anyone on this site doesn’t think he and others in his administration didn’t lie, then you are a pathetic.
Josef, what would you do? Jay wants to try and make this out not to be Obamas fault just like his crap piece on Fast & Furious.
Fox is the only station who seems to really care about this abortion.
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
This is the perfect issue for the right wing echo chamber to get cons into a tizzy and off into fantasy land.
Lots of uncertainty about what happened…”reports” coming up the grapevine and out of the woodwork.
Of course most people don’t buy into the nuttiness nor do they want to explore wingnuts’ crazy theories.
Have fun, morons!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
I bet there is a good number of left wingers questioning this event too.
I’m questioning where is that $6 a gallon gas by the election that you were predicting.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
Not making any predictions about the outcome next Tuesday, but I honestly think Glenn Beck will throw a rod and stroke out right there on live television if Obama wins.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
“I think Mitt had/has more than just those 2 options…just sayin’”
Dontcha know? Jay speaks for Romney.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Reports just in from Republicans confirm that if embassies were established in private businesses such as the Holiday Inn Express instead of government-run facilities, we would not be having this discussion.
Cspike
October 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Good points, TAXPAYER, but consider this: those drones didn’t just appear out of nowhere. How did they just happen to be there at exactly the right time? I heard a report that it would have taken three hours for them to arrive. Does anyone know anything about this?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
“You better be nice to Big Daddy. He took up for you downstairs, you know.”–Josef
That’s kind of like biting the hand that feeds you, isn’t it. Shame on me! As you were!
Erwin's cat
October 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Republicans know this to be the truth because it is all part of their faith-based reality.
last I read Obama is a self-identified Christian…Why do you criticize our President for being Christian?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor.
And, I suppose all 518,000 (is that close to a “million-billion?) are right-wing zealots?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
“Of course most people don’t buy into the nuttiness nor do they want to explore wingnuts’ crazy theories.”
You mean crazy theories like 9/11 was an inside job by W?
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Keep
Well per Jm’s post last night, I think he said the base in Sicily has the “usual weaponry”………..
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
I googled “benghazi traitor” and had 525,000 “hits.” But, what’s 7,000 among friends?
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Yep cause no lobs would ever do such a thing??
Google Bush 9/11 conspiracy.
Heck one even received an appointment to the White House
N-GA
October 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
Those right-wingers are really “workin’ for a livin’”. The problem is they are working for the enemy. They make the old SDS look like Minutemen!
St Simons
October 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
hey you can put a question mark at the end, and say ANYTHING!
what a trick! Everyone try it!
Does Ann have sex for money with the pool boy?
Is Mitt really Eddie Haskell from ‘Leave It to Beaver?’
deegee
October 29th, 2012
4:56 pm
What is it with all of these chicken hawks and their obsession with military maneuvers?!?!?!? It’s not a game of Battleship. I almost lost my breakfast yesterday after listening to Karl Rove, of all people, carrying on about armed drones. What a bunch of losers.
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Yes.
Crazy theories like that.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Danged iPhone picking my words for me.
Libs not lobs
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”
Hysteria??? Kind of like this, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wgJoepQmS4
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
Republicans have also confirmed that it was indeed Obama that made it impossible for drones to fly to Benghazi. Republicans acknowledge that they had only approved in their budget a maximum of $1.80 per gallon for fuel and President Obama knew this and did nothing to keep fuel prices at that level until the next appropriations bill was passed and signed into law.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Good Fight
I went back this afternoon and looked at last night’s after I left…nobody, friend or foe of Barack’s, could give a rational response to what they would’ve done in the President’s shoes…
Joseph, Not one of us knows what the President has at his disposal, but we all know what he didn’t have.
Lets face it he had an important date the following day and he really couldn’t be bothered.
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
I never said there weren’t conspiracy theorists on the left.
I’m just not one of them.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
“Libs not lobs”–Marty
Same difference!
Logan Sexton
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
Mr. Bookman, you are the usual blind Obama follower who will uphold Obama no matter what he does. There is no justification for what happened at Benghazi. Obama, the Pentagon, etc., are all guilty of standing idly by while those Americans died. No attempt whatsoever was offered or even thought of. They all watched while the atrocity took place. I listened to the father of Tyrone Woods, a very forgiving man in view of what happened to his son, whose death may rightfully be blamed on the incompetents in Washington, and what he said is totally believable, having nothing to do with the fictional right wing hysteria garbage you clam. You may invent all the excuses and pass the blame on that nonsensical “right wing hysteria” all you want, but your liberal arrogance and ignorance won’t change a single fact. If you can’t report the news accurately, I suggest you find another job.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
I google Benghazi traitor and got “About 518,000 results (0.24 seconds)”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
josef, I don’t know that a rational person can give an answer without first having the information I was asked last night. Well other than a few posters of assery who are just “geniuses in their own mind.” Like all good Americans who are not trying to make everything a political issue, I am sure that the President asked for rescue options. If the event been 4 weeks rather than 4 hours, there would have likely been actions. 4 hours was just not enough time to pull anything together. It appears that efforts were underway and it is likely a great deal of information is classified for good reason.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
The Other Half
What would I do? I won’t even speculate. Most likely, I’d do what I suspect the rest of us here would do, I’d say, “oh, sh*t!”
We can argue the being prepared, we can argue how to handle it once it’s happened, but in real time as it was occurring?
Many, it seems, say bomb the hell out of ‘em. And blast the consulate and its inhabitants into oblivion in the process?
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
OK, CSpike, let’s deal with your points one by one:
How’s this for a reason: he got tired of arguing with someone who was just going to lie. What good does it do to get into a “You did,” “No, I didn’t” confrontation? By that notion, Romney might as well quit campaigning altogether. It’s really a silly argument on your part.
“As to the “harm’s way” argument, common sense would indicate that you would at least move forces in the direction of the conflict. Even if you decided not to engage them, at least they’d be in the vicinity. You’d have options. Not doing anything leaves you with exactly no options. You’re obviously an educated man. Doesn’t that strike you as being the least bit odd that they did NOTHING?
As reported above, they didn’t “do nothing.” Clearly, Panetta, Ham and Dempsey had high-level discussions about whether a rescue mission was feasible and should be recommended to Obama. They decided otherwise. In addition, as also reported above, Special Forces teams were assembled and moved to a potential staging area in Sicily, as reported above, but the window for action was closed by then.
“And you do realize that General Ham has very likely been relieved of duty since the attack. If that turns out to true, who are you going to blame then?”
“Very likely been relieved of duty?” Yes, I know that’s the hottest right-wing rumor on the Internet. Except Ham hasn’t been relieved of duty at all. He’s doing the same job today that he did last month, running AfriCom. Yes, his eventual replacement as head of AfriCom has been named as part of the regular rotation of responsibility, but Ham will stay on the job until the new appointee is confirmed by Congress next year. Gen. Dempsey, head of the Joint Chiefs, was even forced to respond to that nonsense, saying the rumor is “absolutely false” and is part of ““routine succession planning.”
Believe me, if a four-star general had been relieved of a major command because of a serious disagreement with his civilian bosses, we would ALL know about it.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
last I read Obama is a self-identified Christian…Why do you criticize our President for being Christian?
I would say that it is you that criticizes the President, Erwin, not I. Unless of course you care to cite a post from me making the claim that you claim to be the truth. Anyway, that’s quite the faith-based reality you got there.
Lynnman
October 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
What Jay misses is the shameful lack of professional journalism integrity being shown by media outlets like the Atlantic Journal. No interest. No questions. No desire to look at anything that may make Pres Obama’s administration look bad. Lucky Fox is at least looking at this. What would have happened if Jay were investigating Watergate (where their were no deaths by the way?)
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
Here is a beer for JAY! On ME!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDFFiEFTiDU
Erwin's cat
October 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
I googled “Beatles to reunite” and got 1,540,000 hits 0.57 sec
What a fun game!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:02 pm
Other half: Lets face it he had an important date the following day and he really couldn’t be bothered.
Well we know which lower half that was pulled out of.
EricEpicHolland
October 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
What is the military for if not to defend the people of America? The President should not have needed to deploy anyone to save these Americans, he should have listened the many times they begged for security. Obama should have known that Britain pulled out because of the attacks and threats. If he was unaware, why? Don’t you want someone who is reliable? If he did know, why was security not sent before this tragic event happened? Why did he lie to all of us when he was sent emails and could watch the event play out real time from a drone? Either way the paper falls Obama comes off as weak. Anyone who is avoiding these questions is doing so primarily for political gain. Your “Right-Wing hysteria” comment is way over the top (except for maybe Glen Beck, he is goofy to say the least…). Either way this slanted perspective deflects the very questions many of us Americans have about Obama’s decision. Could he really go to sleep for a fundraiser the next day, knowing that his own ambassador and other would be killed without help? Seems to me like the president lied when he said his goal was to “keep the American people safe”, should be “keep the American People safe as long as it doesn’t hurt my campaign or image”.
Bjenkum
October 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Jay, I was around for Reagan/Lebanon, USS Cole, Kobar Towers and this is an msm non story compared to those. And there where no coverup lies on those to boot. The president is a moral coward.
Navy wife
October 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Regarding Romney not pouncing on this, you forgot option 3: When your opponent is hanging himself, get out of the way…
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
Benghazi is to take your mind off the many positions Romney has had on birth control, abortion, entering Pakistan to go after terrorists, tax cuts, deduction eliminations, whether the government should get involved in aiding people after natural disasters, whether he doesn’t care about 47% of the people, that Romneycare was the model for Obamacare, that his religion believes that you can baptise the dead and you need to wear special underwear, that his grandfather had 12 wives, that he owns a dancing horse and a garage with an elevator, that he said he’d left Bain capital before it shut down companies only to find out that the papers filed with the SEC said he was still heading up Bain, that he got multiple deferments to keep from being drafted so he could go to France, that Massachusetts wouldn’t re-elect him, that he begged the Federal government for hand-outs for the Salt Lake City Olympics, that his advisors are all GW Bush advisors, that his company out sourced jobs to China, that he’s got gobs of money stored off-shore in the Caymans and Switzerland and that he’s keeping his tax records a big secret for some reason. Look at Benghazi – don’t look at the man behind the GOP curtain!
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
But your post was that it is par for the course for cons.
When in reality it is par for both sides as evident by a quick google search.
You must have forgot to type that part.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:05 pm
Lucky Fox is at least looking at this.
Yes, lucky…. the 3 richard man… Peter Johnson Jr., Ailes hitman and personal attorney, is looking into it deeply dontchaknow…. “well I have no evidence for this but…..” oh the integrity….
East Cobb RINO, Inc (LLC)
October 29th, 2012
5:05 pm
…got tired of arguing with someone who was just going to lie…
That is why I do not discuss politics with conservatives.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
I don’t think Obama’s guilty of high treason but he and his administration should be held accountable for incompetency and for the attempted cover up of facts. It’s now well documented that though necessary requests for additional security were ignored and later denied. Some military experts dispute the statements that there wasn’t any viable reaction force assets that could have assisted. One retired Air Force General stated that F-16’s out of Aviano, Italy could have been scrambled to at least fly intimidating low altitude runs over the attackers that very well could have caused them to break off their assault. Obama has not handled this well nor has Clinton.
eddy
October 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
Only Jay and his trolls believe that the reaction to the Benghazi attack and massacre of the 4 Americans is out of proportion to the actual event. Obama and his surrogates lied, tried to cover it up and now have been caught in their lies. So it was the video says Obama and his minions…PS, Jay, his minions represent the official position of the Obama administration and they did not “just make it up on their own”. Now trying to reinvent history when the facts and data don’t support any of their made-up story. But of course, Zippy is not man enough to stand in front of a microphone and give a detailed version of what actually happened (Oh wait, I must go to a fund raiser). Some people will lose their jobs because of this plus numerous other screw-ups…thankfully Obama will be one of them. I know, I know….I’m racist for having an opinion that is opposite what Obama stands for. I don’t dislike him because of his color but because of his absence of character, leadership and general incompetence.
Frank
October 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
Gen. Ham has been arrested for preparing a special forces team to enter Libya on9/11. That was his assessment of the situation before being relieved of duty. His expert opinion! And the special advisors to the president waved him OFF!!! Why?! I, we, the American people just want to know why! Now we can’t criticize our prez bcuz there’s an election coming up? We don’t care about that, give us answers!
READ JAY! then look again at your opinion piece
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/10/rogue-u-s-general-arrested-for-activating-special-forces-teams-ignoring-libya-stand-down-order-2487316.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=beforeitsnews
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
Jay, I was around for Reagan/Lebanon, USS Cole, Kobar Towers and this is an msm non story compared to those.
I was around for the French and Indian war and Battle of 1812
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
USMC
October 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
Maybe so but we all know on this blog there are those who would prefer to focus on a typo than what is the point being made.
Wanted to clear up any confusion and blame my iPhone.
That’s 750 I should have kept in the bank
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
We can argue the being prepared, we can argue how to handle it once it’s happened, but in real time as it was occurring?
Josef, Isn’t being prepared supposed to mean if anything happens we have the ability to re-act immediately.
Obama is the CIC and it is his responsibility to make sure we are prepared, the buck ( or in his case 1 penny ) stops with him.
Our Military is supposed to have contingencies for anything like this, obviously they didn’t.
Joseph
October 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
Whether you like it or not Jay this is a huge story. Obama simply let people die because he wouldn’t make a decision to go in to help… I guess libs like you don’t mind collateral damage….
Keepmyfreedom
October 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
Option Three: Romney is talking about restoring our economy instead, since he is confident the truth will come out because the excuses and the evidence are so far askew that no logical person could possibly believe the distortions of this Prez and his lap dogs. This won’t be the first time this “leader” abandoned his country and duty: http://freebeacon.com/five-times-obama-has-apologized-for-america/ The problem with Libs is that they are so sanctimoniously righteous that they are blinded by their ideology and completely abandon any attempt to comprehend the truth. Jay, find another career because you’re not very good at this journalism gig.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
DownInAlbany @4:30,
I assume you pursued the answers to those questions each time our diplomatic facilities were attacked when Bush was president (about a dozen). If so, what did you find out? If not, why not? Is it possible that you only care about the answers to such questions when a Democrat is in the White House?
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Ah, and Frank takes it all a step further: General Ham has been ARRESTED!!!
RB from Gwinnett
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Help ‘em cover it up Jay. That’s what real journalists do, right?
This is pathetic even for you, but what else should we expect from a worthless liberal rag that hasn’t even run a story on the issue as if its not happening. What the hell ever happened to the media wanting the truth? Geez…
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
I google Benghazi traitor and got “About 518,000 results (0.24 seconds)”
And, your point is….?
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Damn, Albany, you’re a regular Nuremburg inquisitioner. Monday morning quarterback much? Where were you when the dunce of death, Bush II, unleashed the most costly misadventure in terms of human life and treasure in the history of the nation? Will you be prosecuting Bush for his war crimes?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
It’s now well documented that though necessary requests for additional security were ignored and later denied
Nope. You know where Tripoli is?
Scrivener
October 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Option three: People (like those found on this blog) have been accusing Romney of politicizing this incident, and he’s trying not to do that and figures that the media should be taking the lead, which, of course, they’re not.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
General Ham has been hung, drawn and quartered.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Navy wife
October 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
Regarding Romney not pouncing on this, you forgot option 3: When your opponent is hanging himself, get out of the way…
Or 3b: When your opponent is digging a hole for himself, don’t take the shovel away from him!
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Other half
Like I said, we can argue the “could’ves” BEFORE the attack, and we can argue the “shouldn’t'ves” AFTER the attack, but it’s the attempts to apply those to the events in real time that I find specious…
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
All of you right wing partisans don’t give a rats ass about people dying in Benghazi. But you do care a whole lot about bringing this president down. You’re the worst of the worst.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
One retired Air Force General stated that F-16’s out of Aviano, Italy could have been scrambled to at least fly intimidating low altitude runs over the attackers that very well could have caused them to break off their assault
Wow, retired AF generals knowing what planes are on a base currently and their ready status. Someone needs to ask that general where the security breaches are that he gets that info….. unless of course, he did not really know anything. I mean Del did not post a link for a source.
DebbieDoRight -Will Be Good And NOT Ask Questions About Anyone's "Supposed" Military Service. AMEN.
October 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
josef: I thought we wore this one out last night…
Well, the Boortzie’s and the LimpBalls as well as the Koch Brothers don’t want this one to go away yet. It’s all over Breibart, again; as well as on all the talk radio shows. Again.
barking frog
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Benghazi is not going away.The
investigation is not in a war zone
and does not involve the attackers
thus should be finished.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
General Ham is being served in the main lobby in a white wine reduction.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
DownInAlbany @4:30,
I assume you pursued the answers to those questions each time our diplomatic facilities were attacked when Bush was president (about a dozen). If so, what did you find out? If not, why not? Is it possible that you only care about the answers to such questions when a Democrat is in the White House?
Are you a “truther?”
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
“Nope. You know where Tripoli is?”
Non-argument you haven’t been keeping up with the developments.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
What say you, DownInAlbany?
You asked a lot of questions? Did you seek and find the answers to such questions the dozen or so times that our diplomatic facilities were attacked under Bush? Or do you have one standard Republican presidents and a different standard for Democratic presidents?
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
The GOP game plan – Anything to take the focus off of Romney. If it makes you fox-addicts feel better, go ahead.
ohtriton
October 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Jay your wrong on all accounts. If you had ever served in a spec ops unit or as a PMC you would understand that rescuing and or giving the guys on the ground what they need to defend themwelves and win the fight is always possible if a commander has experience and guts which the pres does not have. I served in the military and US state dept for 18 yea and I’ve never experienced this utter disregard for the US, empathy toward our enemies, and sheer incompotence as the pres has displayed in the last four years. Keep backing and making excuses for this terrible pres and person so we can continue to increase our debt and allow our enemies to come to our door step.
PS. Fox has got it the closest to being correct than any other news orgnization. Don’t hate.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Republican operatives have spotted the General. He is under house arrest at the local Holiday Inn Express. Word on the streets of Benghazi is that he likes their continental breakfast.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
RB
You have stated numerous times that he AJC has not run any stories on Libya. As usual you are wrong.
http://projects.ajc.com/search/?term=libya&x=0&y=0
You can take the time now to take out the ones that are from Wingfield, Bookman and Dupree and read to you are content.
Glad I could assist. Don’t mention it.
Anytime.
Joseph
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
I guess Obama didn’t want to be bothered so he really couldn’t engage on Benghazi….
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
mbtc
“Bush II, unleashed the most costly misadventure in terms of human life and treasure in the history of the nation? ”
Say what? No fan of Bush, myself, and not of the opinion that Iraq II wasn’t a boondoggle…but, really, have you this little knowledge of American history?
Try that little misadventure back a century and a half ago on for size…
DebbieDoRight -Will Be Good Forever and Ever. AMEN
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
All of you right wing partisans don’t give a rats ass about people dying in Benghazi. But you do care a whole lot about bringing this president down. You’re the worst of the worst.
Word.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
“That’s 750 I should have kept in the bank”–Marty
That bad, huh? I just got the HTC OneX. It is simply AMAZING… for a phone.
Anyway, I agree with you on the snarky little typo comments traded on the blog. It’s funny, isn’t it?
Their political stance CANNOT be argued logically/realistically, so they paint their opposition as Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted.
Or they point out a typo
markie mark
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
if the right is all so full of crap, why doesnt the media demand a full investigation so that can be shown or seen by the world? I dont see any of the “mainstream” print OR TV news media making even an attempt. Politics? I dont know, but I suspect. But I damn will bet ya that if W was in office right now that would be headline news every night. They may not find anything done wrong, but the truth would be chased like nobodys business, and answers would be demanded.
ConServAmerican
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
1) The president took an oath to protect our soverign nation,That includes ordering protection of our diplomats and staff in Benghazi utilizing all means necessary to accomplish the job.
2) It is a fact that the White House knew within minutes of the attack, and chose to do nothing. Remember folks, we live in a time where everywhere in under video surveillance.
3) Why all the mis-information coming out of the White House in the days after the attack? Why did our United Nations Ambassador Price go out on public speaking engagements trying to blame this all on some anti-muslim video on YouTube that had some 16 hits prior to the White house blaming in the for the Banghazi attack?
4) Remember we lost 4 true American Hero’s in that Benghazi attack.
guy
October 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
You don’t have to question this administration’s attitude about Libya as they are lost. Seriously, we need to come home from all these countries because they don’t want us there to begin with.Then,we won’t be having our people murdered in their country. When you go into their country these things will happen.It is not worth it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
DownInAlbany,
You’re confused. Trutherism has to do with the attacks on 9/11.
I’m asking you about the attacks on U.S. consulates, embassies, and other diplomatic facilities during Bush’s time in office? Or did Fox News not tell you about those?
Rightwing Troll
October 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
So now we’ve moved from just “denying assistance” to “Obama ordered troops to stand down and ordered a general arrested for trying save Americans”???
Wingnuts are thick… but consistent… you can always count on them to raise their game if they don’t think their poutrage is taking hold…
Union
October 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
i did read somewhere that an ac-130 and some drones were in the area and could have been used.. sure.. if you wanted to take out the whole compound.. when we speak of precision.. the kill box is in direct correlation to the size of the ammo..
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
It’s now well documented that though necessary requests for additional security were ignored and later denied.
No conceivable security detail in Benghazi would have been sufficient to fight off a force of some 150 armed men, which is the estimate I’m now seeing. It merely would have added to the American death total. Without the support of host-nation personnel — and there was none in Benghazi — most full embassies could not withstand an assault of that size.
Embassy Marines are not there to protect the embassies; that is the job of the local host-government military.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
What say you, DownInAlbany?
You asked a lot of questions? Did you seek and find the answers to such questions the dozen or so times that our diplomatic facilities were attacked under Bush? Or do you have one standard Republican presidents and a different standard for Democratic presidents?
Yes, I did ask a lot of questions. All of which you’ve chosen not to answer.
Yes, I followed Bush’s mistakes as closely as O’s.
No, I do not have double-standards.
I have answered your questions. Will you answer even one of mine?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
Oh, and Marty, I only paid $325 for the HTC One X…. Not to rub it in.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
RB
Will even help you out a little more. When you open the link and see the list. The ones that do not say “blog” are the stories and not the Bookman, Wingfield, etc pieces………
Do not mention it man; glad to assist.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
Republicans confirmed today that President Obama had no part in the death of Osama bin Laden.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
“Nope. You know where Tripoli is?”
Somewhere close to the Halls of Montezuma?
DebbieDoRight -Will Be Good Forever and Ever. AMEN
October 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
Being good sux.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
Non-argument you haven’t been keeping up with the developments
Wingnut developments (aka wild speculation), you’re right. You got facts? Real facts? Cause so far your “facts” are being smashed faster than Gallagher smashes watermelons at a farmer’s market.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
DownInAlbany,
You’re confused. Trutherism has to do with the attacks on 9/11.
Not confused at all! I know what a “truther” is. I suppose you blame Bush for 9/11 (the original)?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:20 pm
But I damn will bet ya that if W was in office right now that would be headline news every night.
How is that media investigation going in the search for answers about the weapons of mass destruction, sport?
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
Romney’s plan for fixing the economy will only get us deeper in debt. He has no balanced tax plan, he’s backed off gov. spending cuts and he claims he’s going to increase military spending. Of course, he’s a citizen of the world, so it doesn’t really matter to him how the country’s finances are – just the finances of the uber-rich.
DebbieDoRight -Will Be Good Forever and Ever. AMEN
October 29th, 2012
5:21 pm
No, I do not have double-standards.
BushSh##t
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
josef –
debbie, oh please, you can be a “little” bad. We like bad Debbie.
Rob Jones
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
With only some of the facts in due to presidential stonewalling, this is clearly a HUGE scandal that points to both Obama’s warped views on how to label and deal with Islamic terrorists, but his very intergrity for lying and now covering up what happened, what he knew and when he knew it. 4 Americans were murdered after hours of siege and calls for help. The ambassadors residence was set afire with him inside–this happened in real time at the WH. Panetta’s excuse of not sending military without know all facts is patently absurd. The order to withhold came from the very top–I’m sure Obama would clear himself if he could. Instead he refuses to answer questions.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
DebbieDoRight -Will Be Good Forever and Ever. AMEN
October 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
All of you right wing partisans don’t give a rats ass about people dying in Benghazi. But you do care a whole lot about bringing this president down. You’re the worst of the worst.
More like, 4 Americans are dead and all you care about is protecting the president! Works both ways, sport.
Rightwing Troll
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
“josef: I thought we wore this one out last night…”
It’s the only “watergate” they got… the previous 7 fizzled out, went as limp as one of our resident wingnuts without his viagra…
indigo
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and, as a result, thousands of Americans have been killed.
4 American civilians died in Benghazi.
This kind of manufactured hysteria is just one of the many proofs that
the far right is desperate for a whiter White House.
Conservative denials of this become more and more hollow with each passing day.
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
“Remember we lost 4 true American Hero’s in that Benghazi attack.”
And you could really give a isht about that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
i did read somewhere that an ac-130 and some drones were in the area and could have been used..
I did read somewhere that I will be driving for the ELF team in the Monaco Grand Prix.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
cons are racists and terrorist sympathyzers .
barking frog
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
DebbieDo
I’m in the market for a personal
attacker if you are available. I was
the commanding general at Pensacola
Beach invasion in 1973.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I’ve just been watching Fox continue to flay this dead horse. The level of willful stupidity on display is stunning.
Mr. Snarky
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
“But your post was that it is par for the course for cons. When in reality it is par for both sides as evident by a quick google search.”
Perhaps it is, but not in my circles. I don’t waste my time with such pursuits. You guys seem to have plenty of time to waste.
‘Course maybe it’s just a pleasant distraction from the fact that it looks like Mitt is headed for defeat.
Greg
October 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
I wonder if Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein had waited till all the facts were in that we would have had a Watergate. I commend Jay for his outstanding writing. He’s won a lot of awards for his skills. With that said, you can be a great composer and still be wrong. Keep up the good work Jay. How’s your brother Paul and Ed feeling these days?
Greg
Rightwing Troll
October 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
“More like, 4 Americans are dead and all you care about is protecting the president!”
Where are the crocodile tears for the 4,486 Americans who died for W’s lies?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
…but his very intergrity for lying and now covering up what happened…
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
tired of the lies
October 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Until we clear DC of ALL INCUMBENTS no truths will ever be disclosed.
EJ Moosa
October 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
“No conceivable security detail in Benghazi would have been sufficient to fight off a force of some 150 armed men, which is the estimate I’m now seeing. It merely would have added to the American death total. Without the support of host-nation personnel — and there was none in Benghazi — most full embassies could not withstand an assault of that size. ”
They were there on behalf of who? The United States government.
Just how long did those there who were US citizens defend the site?
It was a cowardly response from a cowardly President who was more concerned about injury to the attackers than to the defense of the Americans.
It’s pathetic leadership/
Obama is NOT someone you want getting the 3 am call. Hillary said it. Obama has confirmed it.
Hell, he cannot even handle the call during normal business hours.
markie mark
October 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
All I see from the left here is a willingness to accept whatever the left “powers that be” feeds them, in a way they would never accept if the administration was to the right…..amazing….you I watch you guys enough to know most of you are intelligent, even though I disagree with your politics….
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
“Clearly a huge scandal” – uh – no. Cooking CIA data to make the case to go to war, outing a CIA agent who was the wife of someone who tried to tell the truth and being responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of others – that’s a “huge scandal.” This isn’t even as big as Reagan’s getting the Marines killed in Lebanon. This is just something to take the focus off of Romney’s wish-washy positions on the issues and lack of any viable plan for the future. Romney’s whole schtick is “I’m not Obama.” Sorry, that’s not a plan.
Brosephus™
October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Geez…
I long for the day before microwave ovens, instant noodles, instant photography, and other crap that helped us to devolve into this instant gratification, instant results society.
I’m sitting this one out as speculating does nothing at all to bring back those four lives, nor does speculation solve the issues of what really happened.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
All I see from the left here is a willingness to accept whatever the left “powers that be” feeds them…
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
We will be greeted as liberators.
The invasion of Iraq will pay for itself.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
Meanwhile, John McCain has confessed that President Obama was one of the Keating Six.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
There’s no way this unfortunate incident can be glossed over and the administration is learning that lesson the hard way. If there’s truth to a report that Obama was actually seated in the situation room watching the assault in real time his credibility will be forever ruined as this nations CnC.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”–JAY BOOKMAN
No Hysteria, just the Fact!
The President of the United States blames a major Terrorist attack on a YOUTUBE VIDEO!
So, either Pres. Obama:
1) LIED to the American people
OR
2) Is an INCOMPETENT Commander in Chief
It’s really that simple folks, The Lib/Socialist can try and muddy the water, but the facts remain: Obama is being dishonest or is inept OR both!
markie mark
October 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Kamchak, I am not and have never been, your sport. And each news item is separate….but hey, lets not investigate ANYTHING you may disagree with, right?
Former Marine
October 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Explain how the SEALS got killed on site? SEALS are “Special Forces” and were painting the target for distruction when they were killed. Seems this reporter is as far LEFT as he claims the rest of us are far right. REAL TIME INFO??? Like we had at Normandy? WAKE UP..the guy who wrote this is part of the problem
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Our Obama detractors are constantly harping about how we are being seen in the outside world. I’d suggest that they take a look at how the foreign press is seeing them in this…
Scrivener
October 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Jay says:
“I’ve just been watching Fox continue to flay this dead horse. The level of willful stupidity on display is stunning.”
I’d say that time will tell that Fox has been right all along, and you, Jay, and your fellow travelers on this blog will be shown to be the stupid ones.
Rob Jones
October 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
You really have to be silly to equate a war authorized by congress and based on overwhelming bipartisan belief of WMD in Iraq with what went down in Benghazi. It is either dishonest or ignorant to argue that way, but that is the way of the Left.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
If it were not for all that cheap Iraqi oil we have now thanks to the Bush/Cheney administration there’s no telling how low gas prices could be today. I’m thinking it could be $1.80 per gallon easy.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
Recon
Who is reporting that Obama actually watched in real time?
Could you post that link?
Thanks
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
YO KAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Got snow? I forget exactly where you are but just saw on Channel 2 (WSB) a bunch of snow where they were in N. Carolina. The reporter said he was about an hour north of…….. crap, I forget, Asheville? Is that about 4-5 hours from here? I think he said Yancey. There was a good bit of snow.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
“I’ve just been watching Fox continue to flay this dead horse. The level of willful stupidity on display is stunning.”–JAY BOOKMAN
I KNEW IT!
Jay Bookman watches FAUX News! Where is Fred when we need him to castigate JAY!
Cspike
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
Jay, how about this from the Wall Street Journal:
There was an “announcement earlier this month that Gen. Ham will be replaced as head of the U.S. Africa Command. On Monday, Gen. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, said that Gen. Ham’s reassignment from the Africa command was not because of Libya.” (William McGurn, 10/29/12)
Yeah. I’m sure it was just a coincidence.
Seriously?
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
I got an idea………
You can give me 300
That way you can be all trendy and say you paid for an iphone5 and I can feel better about my stupidity.
Just saying
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
Well we may never know since liberal media outlets refuse to ask any questions at all. They’re to bsy trying to determine if Romney still backs that candidates view on abortion.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
“Explain how the SEALS got killed on site? SEALS are “Special Forces” and were painting the target for distruction when they were killed.
They weren’t SEALs, they were former SEALs. And they got on site because they were hired to be there as private contractors to provide security.
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
I’m going to ask the same question I asked last night. You’re the Man at 1600. The call comes in. What would you do?
Why, I would make a mud puddle out of em and splash them till they ain’t no more.
markie mark
October 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
and at least, Kamchak, THAT WAS AN INVESTIGATION…by everybody and their brother…(but you knew that)
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
BROSEPHUS
@ 5:27
Your mouth to G-d’s ears…
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
October 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
If it is no big deal, why concern yourself with it? Your continuing preoccupation with the subject indicates you know there is more there than the state-controlled media will cover, and you are trying to get everybody to “move on”. As Democrats like to say, the “seriousness of the charge” warrants further investigation. Y’all jump all over stuff with way less information than this.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
markie mark
Did the FBI stop their investigation?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
Hey! There’s Fred.
Man, you missed the Master Plan I laid out for the Dawgs winning the BCS CG! It was a beauty!
I’ll give you a hint: It starts with an UNRULY and Nasty Defense!
Jeffrey
October 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
I was discussing politics with a fox news watcher. They started saying outrageous things, so I said,”easy fox news”. The person knowing what I meant replied,”no this is true”. Telling dontcha think.
DwayneL
October 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
No need for Romney since he’s talking about his plan to fix the economy, something that obama doesn’t have! His failings on Liyba are coming out every day. This president is a moron and will be replaced very soon!!!
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
Rumor has it that FOX News beats those dead horses as much as they do in order to properly tenderize the meat for their cafeteria. They save a lot of money as compared to better cuts of beef. That Murdoch is a real tight wad according to anonymous reports from Doocy and Hannity.
RB from Gwinnett
October 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
Keep, seriously????? You’re calling blog posts news reporting??? I thought you clowns claimed jay was just an opinion writer and now you want us to accept other opinion writers as news???
Choke down another gallon or 2 of that koolaid, keep.
Rob Jones
October 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
It would be presposterous to think that this author or the media in general would be handling this outrageous incident and coverup if it was Bush in office. They would be all over it and rightfully so. This is not going away, it is only going to get worse. It will destroy what’s left of Obama’s legacy. The presidency is already lost. Romney will win handily next Tuesday and the Benghazi story will continue to get worse for Obama.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
I heard reports that the news room at Fox has Sponge Bob on 24 hours a day….. if reports are true, they may have improved their credibility.
Thomas
October 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Bookie- were you comatose during the media’s daily filleting of W for 8 years? Much of it was more than well deserved. The WH for four years has been dealt with kid gloves. There is no right or wrong answers. There are only correct answers. The media from both sides enable the extremist views.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
TBS,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2951777/posts
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
ORANGE
Okay, and how would that have saved the lives of the Americans inside the consulate?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
“That way you can be all trendy and say you paid for an iphone5 and I can feel better about my stupidity.”–Marty
My girlfriend, who loves her Iphone, started playing with my HTC phone this weekend and now wants to get one. It was funny to watch.
She kept saying, “Honey it’s SO big!”
Boy, talk about an aphrodisiac! I loved it!
Moderate Line
October 29th, 2012
5:37 pm
Jay is either attacking Romney or defending Obama. Whenever your defending you are losing.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
It would be presposterous to think that this author or the media in general would be handling this outrageous incident and coverup if it was Bush in office.
It would be…except for the fact that there were a dozen such attacks on diplomatic facilities when Bush was in office…and the media barely noticed.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
In all fairness you nor foxnews has near enough information to make a declaration either way.
Unless you have been given information the rest of the public does not have yet.
Unless you are of the opinion that administrations both past and present have been less than truthful with us.
Or maybe there were WMD and this attack was about a video.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
ORANGE
Okay, and how would that have saved the lives of the Americans inside the consulate?
This should be very enlightening…
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
Bush and the neocon Wolfowitz – Iraq would pay for its own reconstruction with its oil money. That didn’t work out so well. Where’s the Fox outrage?
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Mitt won’t sully himself with this. This “prong” of the attack to win back the presidency for the oligarchs is left to the noise machines on radio and tv. If only a few dunces and tools fall for it and perpetuate the narrative, like our right wing friends on here, perhaps, just perhaps that will put them over the top. That’s their very transparent reasoning. And, who’s to say, it might work. But I doubt it. Sandy will steal their thunder. And I guarantee the furor over this will end next Tuesday, as it’s usefullness will be over.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Former Marine
October 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Explain how the SEALS got killed on site? SEALS are “Special Forces” and were painting the target for distruction when they were killed. Seems this reporter is as far LEFT as he claims the rest of us are far right. REAL TIME INFO??? Like we had at Normandy? WAKE UP..the guy who wrote this is part of the problem
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Actually your lack of higher brain functions and ability to comprehend the written word are part of the problem, not Jay’s OPINION piece.
SEALS are NOT Special Forces. Special Forces are Special Forces. They are an elite ARMY unit. SEALS are an elite NAVY unit. They are both part of the Special OPERATION group.
Stick to saying “aye aye gunny” and leave the thinking to those better suited for it there sport.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”–JAY
JAY, Will you at least admit that Benghazi was a Terrorist attack and NOT the result of a YOUTUBE video, which Obama and the UN Ambassador, professed for the longest time??
Susan Rice on Benghazi Libya: Not pre planned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG64×31wyCU
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
The WH for four years has been dealt with kid gloves.
No, it is just that this administration hasn’t f’ed up one tenth as often…
Cspike
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Jay: “No conceivable security detail in Benghazi would have been sufficient to fight off a force of some 150 armed men, which is the estimate I’m now seeing. It merely would have added to the American death total. Without the support of host-nation personnel — and there was none in Benghazi — most full embassies could not withstand an assault of that size.”
So completely not the point, man. Ask anyone in the military. They’ll just laugh at you.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
VAST RIGHT WING
“… the state-controlled media…”
Uh, if you mean “government” controlled, you might have an argument. But us’uns here in the Good Ole US of A, ain’t got no “state controlled” media…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
…silly to equate a war authorized by congress and based on overwhelming bipartisan belief of WMD in Iraq…
It would behoove you to research the vote on the Iraq resolution, sport.
In the House of Representatives, 126 voted nay to the 82 that voted yes. 61% voted nay
In the Senate it was 21 nays to 29 ayes. 42% nay
147 total votes nay = 57% of Democrats voted against invading Iraq.
Overwhelming support?
Not hardly. sport.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Recon
Thanks. Damning if true. Do you have any background on the rt Lt Col?
If it has real legs, I am sure it will come out.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
JAY, Will you at least admit that Benghazi was a Terrorist attack and NOT the result of a YOUTUBE video
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/25/the-right-wing-is-losing-its-last-two-marbles-over-benghazi/
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Okay, and how would that have saved the lives of the Americans inside the consulate?
It may or may not have Josef depending on what the real timeline of events actually was. One thing is for sure – it would send a large message to the people concerned.
pogo
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
The Obama interview with the Denver reporter on the 26th tells you about everything you need to know about what Obama knew and when he knew it on the Benghazi terrorist attacks. If Obama would have been a bank robber being interviewed by detectives instead of a so-called “president” being interviewed by a TV reporter he would have immediately been pegged as a lying SOB. He dodged, he blinked over and over again and he came across as a total liar. Make no mistake, he knew immediately it was a terrorist attack but because he was afraid of making waves with the Muslim leadership in Libya he would not order defensive measures for our Ambassador and our troops during the attack. If a republican president would have done the same as Obama, Jay and the resto of the useless liberal press would have already been calling for a Congressional investigation. But since they are unthinking ideologues who care about nothing but getting their man re-elected, they aren’t. But rest assured Jay. This story is hurting Obama badly and you know it or you wouldn’t be putting so much emphasis on it. Maybe you should be heading for the fainting couch old boy.
RB from Gwinnett
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Jay, you and your cohorts are just the “useful idiot” this administration needs to do whatever the hell it wants. Congratulations!!
Moderate Line
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor.
+++++
Google 9/11 Bush Conspiracy you get 13,200,000 results.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
USMC: Check this guy out, I think you’ll like him. The link is to his youtube channel. the one that will play is about football, but the rest are political. I forget who I first got this from, it may have been Scout. LOL I have subscribed to him.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Interesting that now Obama’s telling Morning Joe on MSNBC that it’s possible that some messed up on the Benghazi attack and they will be held accountable. Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
RB
How is that reading going on those articles you claimed were not ran in the AJC regarding Libya?
From the Center
October 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
Where would the main stream media and the Liberials stand on this if it took place during a Republican administration. They would be doing the same thing I am sure.
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
These attacks on the President are just nonsense. Any excuse to critize the President and spread more hate. Not just nonsense but brainless nonsense.
dennis
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
While there are questions about security before and during the terror, our president lied to the american people by blaming ‘the video’ for 2 weeks. Please note they knew it was a terror attack as found by Obama’s own words and subsequent documents. Would you vote for someone willing to lie to us folks and let him run the country? It certainly seems like BO is playing politics with the 4 americans who were killed. Sad for common folks
SPC
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
The administration’s stories just don’t add up. If they are so deliberate, why was the video story put out so quickly? An attack on an embassy is an act or war. It’s hard to believe this administration was not getting real time information as events were unfolding.
I think the simple answer is they didn’t know what to do, so they took no action.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
Fred
No snow here as of yet, though it’s just above freezing and the sky is spitting out moisture. The forecast is 50% chance of precip with a low of 30.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
“Interesting that now Obama’s telling Morning Joe on MSNBC that it’s possible that some messed up on the Benghazi attack and they will be held accountable. Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.”–Recon
Just like his “stance” on HomoSexual “marriage”.
Obama was against HomeSexual “marriage” BEFORE he was for it….
He EVOLVED, now he walks UPRIGHT!
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
dennis
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
____
Your statements are completely unture, misleading and ill founded.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
Question
Why didn’t Bush shoot down those planes hitting the WTC…we ALL saw them coming…and, no, I’m not being snarky, just applying that logic of knowing what was going on in real time…
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
_________
Your credibility which was small to start with has become non-existence.
To bad for the Marines and their reputation that you continue to use the handle USMC.
saywhat?
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
“Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.”
Or the investigation is. Better this than making up his mind how it happened first, then twisting, falsifying, discounting or making up the facts as needed to fit the pre-ordained conclusion. (cough-cough-IRAQ WMD-cough-cough)
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
People that watch Fox news weren’t voting for Obama to start with. I don’t know why Bookman brought this up except that, perhaps, he thinks the hysteria is amusing and is illustrative of the mentality (or lack thereof) of the right-wing. It’s almost as funny as watching Romney run away from the Tea-party-type bs and over to Obama’s positions on every issue as the election nears.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Would you vote for someone willing to lie to us folks and let him run the country?
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Man behind the Curtain
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
This post of the day deserves reposting:
Mitt won’t sully himself with this. This “prong” of the attack to win back the presidency for the oligarchs is left to the noise machines on radio and tv. If only a few dunces and tools fall for it and perpetuate the narrative, like our right wing friends on here, perhaps, just perhaps that will put them over the top. That’s their very transparent reasoning. And, who’s to say, it might work. But I doubt it. Sandy will steal their thunder. And I guarantee the furor over this will end next Tuesday, as it’s usefullness will be over.
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
___
Too bad your opinion never evolves. Your credibility is a little bit less than that of USMC and your damage to the Marines is greater.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
USMC, It sounds like he’s going to be offering up a scape goat to get the focus off himself.
Aquagirl
October 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
Thanks. Damning if true. Do you have any background on the rt Lt Col?
If it has real legs, I am sure it will come out.
The hysteria over a retired LTC’s statement based on his unspecified sources is typical of our fright-wing. They’ve read a few too many Tom Clancy novels and fancy themselves experts.
Too bad most haven’t done more than wanking from their armchairs, we’d have overrun every terrorist stronghold in the world. Big talkers, little peni—um, doers.
Hcalla
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
At least your writing about it Jay, if even just to badmouth those that want to know whats going on. The truth will come out it always does eventually. There was a time when reporters aggressiveness sought the truth and didn’t use words like the right or the left for that matter in a way that just inferred they had to be incorrect just because their ideology differed from from the authors. You diminish your profession and your readers for the short time they will follow you
Justin Case
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Jay do you have a crush on Obama or something??
Peter
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Weapons of mass destruction……..anyone remember that lie ?
Selective memory by Republican’s………along with ” Mission Accomplished ” !
Another great Republican Lie.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
From the Center: “Where would the main stream media and the Liberials stand on this if it took place during a Republican administration. They would be doing the same thing I am sure.”
From the Center,
The same thing did take place during a Republican administration…about 12 times, give or take.
I don’t know who you think you’re fooling, but in the interest of full disclosure, you might consider changing your handle to “From the Right.”
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
…overwhelming bipartisan…
My ass.
Just another neocon lie that our uninformed, willfully stupid guppies swallow hook, line and sinker.
A sizable majority of Democrats voted against letting the Worst Ever horrifically botch that invasion and occupation…
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Right wing hysteria?
How many contradictory statements do you have to have from the administration before you come to the conclusion that there is indeed a cover up???
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
I thought the USMC user name stood for unusually small mental capacity.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
Hot dang! Does this all mean we can have a impeachment right away? Maybe we won’t need to wait till January for Romney to take office. Beleive me, I’ll burn up every vacation day I got to watch the impeachment on TV. I want Bob Barr back to head the thing—dig him up if he’s dead ’cause I ain’t seen hide nor hair of him for months—and maybe we could bring old Newt back. He ain’t doing nothihg but sending out e-mails begging for money to pay his wife’s debts at Tiffanys.
Trader—ain’t that good for the Death Penalty?
saywhat?
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
CJ @ 5:52- make that “from the far right”
deegee
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
I’m sure that by now the old folks at the home have tuned Fox News out even though it’s still blaring away in the community room. Thank God for the hurricane or this 24X7 Libya coverage would have bored them to death, literally.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
ORANGE
So, the bottom line is that the lives of those inside were secondary to “making a point?”
And do you think that had we done that that Libyans would have turned out in the tens of thousands to express their grief that their friend had been killed by terrorists?
Isn’t tracking down, capturing and bringing to trial under the rule of law of the terrorists making a more civilized point? And I am of the opinion that once the Tunisian and Libyan regimes get through with those they see as out to destroy their revolutions, their next attack will be in hell…
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
I think there was slightly more time to make a decision between the start of the attacks on 9/11 and their conclusion and the start of the attack in Benghazi and its conclusion.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Right wing hysteria?
How many contradictory statements do you have to have from the administration before you come to the conclusion that there is indeed a cover up???
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Namejacking a regular is frowned upon. I imagine namejacking the blog moderator and writer probably is as well.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
mitt stopped but the cons can’t . Brainwashed like zombies by rw meadia.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
Why didn’t the USMC protect the ambassador. Why! WHY!
clem
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
love all this monday morning qbing…..they have to do something to take everyone’s eye off of mitt the twit, the bold massachuesetts warrior……
if obama was willing to risk something like the bin laden raid, why would he be hesitant in libya? folks on right will say anything. they are entitled to answers but several right wing folks have said calmer heads are in order. guess the right can’t rely on vote , they need their iran hostage situation to tilt the meter in swing states.
maybe obama erred here, remains to be seen. but no one can deny that romney makes trump look like a piker when it comes to the carny game.
Coyote
October 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Having boots on the ground, and trying to get people in position to get on the ground are two different things. I know exactly what its like to be on the ground in an unfamiliar area as a situation unfolds. There is a reason we train for such situations. The problem I have with the situation is nobdy but POTUS ever thought the “movie”had anything to do with it, so why push it so hard and for so long?
If “all means needed” were desired and ordered by POTUS, where are those cables and why were no assets moved? Even if they began any type of attempt forces would have moved from CMD positions and that would also create cable trails and ant-whistle blower deflection rhetoric? Yet we hear crickets when its brought up?.
When you know Americans are attacked, you move assets to react “simultaniously” as you gather and put facts together, you do not step back and conduct a 48 day investigation, then begin to react. That is the lib line on this one? Not even remotely plausable.
Why is Gen Ham releived on 12 Sept. if he agreed with Panetta and the Admin. about the propper reactgion?
Why is the Navy CMDR of the Strike Group in the Middle East getting the same treatment with little or no explanation?
Too many coincedences and way too little coming from the Admin to defuse any of them. Sorry but this smell is def coming from a skunk.
No appology or action can ever make me forget Hillary standing in front of the families of the fallen and blaming the Benghazi tradgedy on a movie, that level of selfless preservation in the face and presence of true Americans is unforgivable. I am very unhappy with the current leadership, and genuinely concerned who will answer the next time I pick the radio up and ask for Air assets or re-enforcements.
God Bless America
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Turn off fox zombies.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.
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What did Bush know, and when did he know it? Was he in the situation room or the lunch room during these attacks? Was his hair parted to the left or to the right, and if to the left, was that a sign of sympathizing with the attackers? Is it too late to string former President Bush up for treason?
Too many questions remain unanswered. Where was the mainstream media when we needed them?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Damn, Albany, you’re a regular Nuremburg inquisitioner. Monday morning quarterback much? Where were you when the dunce of death, Bush II, unleashed the most costly misadventure in terms of human life and treasure in the history of the nation? Will you be prosecuting Bush for his war crimes?
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
Let’s just cut to the chase, shall we?
O’bozo wanted to do everything he could to avoid a “Desert One” or a “Blackhawk Down” disaster just weeks before the election. So he did NOTHING.
Very sad, but not surprising…
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
You chickenhawks obviously know nothing at all about the anti-war voices in this country.
Remember Cindy Sheehan?
You fake conservatives dumped on that woman constantly.
Remember when Charles Whats His F&ck of the supposedly uber-liberal ABC News told her to give it up and go home?
Wake up and look around.
And see how your fellow POS neocons could give a flying ____ about our personnel overseas.
The cowardly, crap candidate of yours blamed THEM for sympathizing with their attackers!
And you loved it.
You are just PO’d that a) Osama bin Laden is dead and b) it was only four American lives lost instead of 40 or 400.
No more chickenhawks in power.
But better luck in 2016.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
“Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
Oh, I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the umpteen thousand posts claiming “if this had been Bush the mainstream media never would have” yadda yadda yadda.
EloiseGM
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
On Day 02 of Benghazi killings…OBAMA, CLINTON, RICE, knowingly lied to the American People. They all blamed an American resident, youtube filmaker, for the Murders, not the Terrorists. Their APOLOGY TOUR, about how horrible American Free Speech is , lasted for 17 days…. “Oh, we’re so sorry, we’re so sorry!! Please forgive us!- we disagree with this hateful video…” BIZARRE! THAT”S what we are upset about. In less than 2 days, the maker of the ‘Video’, was arrested, and JAILED. He’s STILL in JAIL!! While the Murderers walk around Benghazi with smiles on their faces, and chatting to Journalists at the Hotel Cafe. Who’s Side is OBAMA on…? He’s Jailed an American to appease the Jihadists…. and has NO intention of answering back the evildoers, who’s actions, merit, Swift, Brutal, Large, RETALIATION.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I’ve just been watching Fox continue to flay this dead horse. The level of willful stupidity on display is stunning.
Because we cannot expect CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc to follow the story…
RF
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Here we go again. No matter what anyone says, no matter what facts come out, no matter what anyone in the military says could or couldn’t happen in the time frame from when we knew the attack was happening to when it ended, the right will say it’s Obama’s fault. Too many assume they know it, and they don’t need facts.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
As far as I know, there is no statute of limitations on treason. Whatever questions you have for Benghazi should apply to Karachi, Riyadh, Taskkent, Damascus, Athens, Istanbul and others as well. Maybe we can save the taxpayers a few bucks and try both Bush and Obama together.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
MARTY
Was there? In something of this nature you only have a split second in time to react. And, no, I’m not trying to draw a parallel between the two. I’m just saying that the criticism of Obama here is along the same lines of Bush’s critics yapping about him and is reaction in the schoolroom.
Again. my question…what would you have done?
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
As far as I know, there is no statute of limitations on treason. Whatever questions you have for Benghazi should apply to Karachi, Riyadh, Taskkent, Damascus, Athens, Istanbul and others as well. Maybe we can save the taxpayers a few bucks and try both Bush and Obama together.
MaryLS
October 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
“I don’t think Obama’s guilty of high treason.” — Actually I do. I think he is giving weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood — and he will be significantly weakening the US Military. I also think that as more details come out about this (most likely after the election), Obama will be impeached. This is far, far worse than Watergate. If Obama wins, get ready for a Biden Presidency.
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
“Isn’t tracking down, capturing and bringing to trial under the rule of law of the terrorists making a more civilized point? And I am of the opinion that once the Tunisian and Libyan regimes get through with those they see as out to destroy their revolutions, their next attack will be in hell…”
Josef, Bring to trial? How far along are the self admitted 9/11 culprits as far as getting justice.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
So who shall we vote for?
I’m assuming you are calling Romney a chickenhawk, but President Obama has sent more troops overseas than Bush did.
As I recall President Obama does not have a military record to speak of.
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Even the Israelis have had attacks on their embassies resulting in deaths. Nobody takes security more seriously than the Israelis, yet it happened – even with Bibi as Prime Minister.
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
Marty – I think you mean Obama has brought more troops home than Bush did.
barking frog
October 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
Marines are not at embassies
for protection. They are there
to scare off evil spirits with the
dress uniform.
Joe Citizen
October 29th, 2012
6:15 pm
Help me with something please? When did the protection of American citizens on sovereign ground no longer become the responsibility of the commander in chief? I must have missed that change in constitutional law.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Read my earlier post.
I do not have a high enough security level to have enough information to say what I would or would not do.
When all of the facts are released I will make a venture. However it will be based solely on my limited military experience.
As I have said before I had more of an issue with how the situation was handled after the fact and who told the mouthpieces of the administration to continue to falsely claim that it was because of a video.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
ORANGE
The 9/11 ones are in American custody…Tunisia and Libya are a different ball of wax in that arena and they have a lot more riding on getting down to bidness…
ad
@ 6:11
Yep.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
“Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
Oh, I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the umpteen thousand posts claiming “if this had been Bush the mainstream media never would have” yadda yadda yadda.
Jay, we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided. To imply otherwise is absolutely disingenuous.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Real Amricans want to get the terrorists.
Wilbur
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
45 days after the fact after weeks of BS from Obama blaming a video he knew was not the trigger and weeks of equivocating there OUGHT to be hysteria about a commander in chief being a feeble hairless weenie.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
The MSM doesn’t care a wit about four dead people, including an Ambassador, if any revelations result reflecting badly on their chosen one, O’bozo.
The MSM got that radical elected, so they have vested interest.
His incompetence matters not. He’s one of them.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided
DownInAlbany,
So where are the links to the main stream media’s critiques Bush’s performance after the attacks listed in my 6:02 post?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
No scandals.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
…we all know that…
Who exactly, granted you the authority to speak on behalf of “all”?
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
MARTY
Which is why I said we can argue before and after, but the while is specious…
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
“Help me with something please? When did the protection of American citizens on sovereign ground no longer become the responsibility of the commander in chief?”
I think that started 20 Jan. 2009
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
joseph,
It appears from the initial attack until the attack was held off it was around 6 hours.
http://m.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/
Timeline near bottom.
I do not recall thee being 6 hours between plane crashes in 2001.
yourstruly
October 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Fantastic stories don’t grow out of thin air. They grow when one sector (journalists) fail to ask obvious questions that those responsible (elected officials) ought to answer and have not.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
cons love them some terrorists.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided
DownInAlbany,
So where are the links to the main stream media’s critiques Bush’s performance after the attacks listed in my 6:02 post?
I’ve answered all of your questions I plan to answer…until you man up and answer ONE of mine!
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Me? I think we ought to take the Condi Rice approach…
Dharma Bum
October 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Obama has done a lot of good in the foreign policy department, but this whole Benghazi mess is not helping him.
I would hope that the American people could come together when a terrorist attack like this occurs, but instead partisan hacks on both sides would prefer politicizing the deaths of four Americans.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
Marty, you figure it out.
With Barry’s very mixed record, Flip could have won this election easily.
But, he is unfit to lead. And the weakest GOP candidate for the White House in 80 years.
Weak, vacillating, unprincipled. And even plenty of people in the GOP know it, though few will publicly admit it.
He is on the greatest fool’s errand in American politics – being a reasonable centrist trying to appease the rabid, lunatic fringe dominated GOP machinery and base.
Thus, he stinks on ice.
So, you Republicans First, Last & Always rubes go ahead and pretend he doesn’t.
And pretend that you are voting FOR him and not just AGAINST the Uppity Muslim…
After this loss, maybe he’ll go away for good…
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
“In an interview that aired today, President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.” ”
Yo, O’bozo, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Putz.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
ORANGE
So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
Why did mitt stop?
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
DownInAlbany,
I’m not answering ONE of your questions because you don’t care about the answers. You only care about replacing a Democrat in the White House with a Republican.
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity. Otherwise, your just an opportunistic, Republican voter who cares nothing about the people who were killed in Benghazi and everything about electing more Republicans.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Dharma Bum
@ 6:23
Yep.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
your = you’re
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:28 pm
I will go with Hillary Clinton.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity.
But…but…but…Bush was a real ‘murican that I could have a beer with, and SHUT UP!
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
Yo, O’bozo, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Yep, that is why Osama bin Laden is dead.
Right, Andy?
dubs
October 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country. How DARE you make jokes about a terrorist attack. In case you don’t know an American Embassy is considered American Soil.
I’m not as concerned about what happened that day as I am to Obama’s lies about a “Spontaneous Demonstration” and a youtube video. He says he needs to do a full investigation that will have to wait until after the election, but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
He has done that too be it basically by using the withdrawal times arranged before he took office.
But he has also sent more inform yourself better.
“The deployment of the support troops to Afghanistan brings the total increase approved by Obama to 34,000. The buildup has raised the number of U.S. troops deployed to the war zones of Iraq and Afghanistan above the peak during the Iraq “surge” that President George W. Bush ordered, officials said. [continued...]”
http://warincontext.org/2009/10/13/more-us-troops-deployed-overseas-under-obama-than-bush/
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
DownInAlbany,
I’m not answering ONE of your questions because you don’t care about the answers. You only care about replacing a Democrat in the White House with a Republican.
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity. Otherwise, your just an opportunistic, Republican voter who cares nothing about the people who were killed in Benghazi and everything about electing more Republica
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…something that you are obviously uninterested in?
Father of Slain Benghazi SEAL to Obama: “It’s Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward”
Do you think this father deserves answers?
Yesterday, former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane added this on Obama’s non-response to the Benghazi 9-11 terrorist attack:
“To have known what he had available, to have known that Americans were under fire, and to have done nothing, is dereliction of duty that I have never seen in a Commander in Chief from a president of any party. Outrageous.”
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
MARY
Obama arming the Muslim Brotherhood? When? Where?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
No scandals cons.mitt would have many. Mitt will lose.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
indigo
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and, as a result, thousands of Americans have been killed.
4 American civilians died in Benghazi.
This kind of manufactured hysteria is just one of the many proofs that
the far right is desperate for a whiter White House.
Conservative denials of this become more and more hollow with each passing day.
Yep! Lets bring race into it because as we all know it was the Black vote that got him elected, Turd brain.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
Father of Slain SEAL to president: ‘Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward’…
drudgey spam
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
The other half of your brain.
Red card?
Or yellow?
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:36 pm
dubs
October 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country. How DARE you make jokes about a terrorist attack. In case you don’t know an American Embassy is considered American Soil.
I’m not as concerned about what happened that day as I am to Obama’s lies about a “Spontaneous Demonstration” and a youtube video. He says he needs to do a full investigation that will have to wait until after the election, but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.
Dubs, You should never come on here with the truth, because all they will do is call you names.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
“Yep, that is why Osama bin Laden is dead.”
But AQ is very much alive, in spite of O’bozo’s fantasies. He, like you, think that since Osama is dead, America has vanquished all its ME enemies.
People who think that are weenies who sing Kum-bye-ahhhhhhh everyday instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegience.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
DUBS
“you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country.”
And the partisan righties don’t? Peas in a pod, imeoiauo.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Isn’t that cute?
dubs and the other half pretending to be two different bloggers…
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
“So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?”
Why yes Josef. I think that pretty well covers it.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
drudgey spam
The ONLY answer ole Kammy has for any facts that do not fit his / her narative!
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
cons love them some terrorists
Getaclue, Please get one, Please.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…
But you couldn’t care less about justice for the Americans (not to be confused with “people”) killed in the attacks at our diplomatic facilities when Bush was president.
Like I said, DownInAlbany, you have two sets of standards.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
ORANGE
Perhaps. But I still so no rational, pragmatic and effective answers to that…
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Isn’t that cute?
dubs and the other half pretending to be two different bloggers…
Jamit Vet, I don’t have the first clue who Dubs is and I think Jay can probably verify that.
I at least don’t foam at the mouth, like you do and I don’t have to use my Military backround to get sympathy.
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:43 pm
Josef, If that timeline was indeed 4 to 6 hours. DOD had ample time to organize and implement a strike.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
He, like you, think that since Osama is dead, America has vanquished all its ME enemies.
No, fool. That is why he keeps droning their asses into oblivion. And supporting NATO bombing runs into Libya, etc.
You soft-on-terror neocons are just gonna have to suck it up and realize that the skinny black Muslim punked you at your own national security game.
Gawd, you guys are easy.
And BTW Andy, nice job saluting him for killing OBL.
LOL!
You feel better, don’t you?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
The ONLY answer ole Kammy has for any facts that do not fit his / her narative[sic]!
Not my problem that you are embarrassed by drudgey, sport.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But I still so no rational, pragmatic and effective answers to that…
You really weren’t expecting specifics, were you?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
“So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?”
Uh, more than NOTHING?
superDave
October 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Jay Bookman is an idiot. He knows nothing. Never served in the military. Never served his country in any capacity. He is a joke and a weasel.
Gessiewtf
October 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Obama gave the order to stand down three times, because it was in his personal best interest to do so. Since the mainstream media is behaving in the exact same fashion as Gramma and the Venezuelan press, because they are hell-bent on re-electing their candidate, we will probably not know the exact reasons for his treasonous decision until after the election. If he gets elected he will be impeached. With the Americans left to die on American soil, he went to bed, did not attend the morning security briefing, and flew to Vegas. The man is not fit for the office he holds, and msm can suppress the truth all they want, but it will come out eventually. The CIA nor the very angry and disgusted military will not fall on their bayonette
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
“Josef, If that timeline was indeed 4 to 6 hours. DOD had ample time to organize and implement a strike.
And you base that on your extensive experience planning military rescue operations into a hostile, unknown environment, General Orange?
indigo
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Rob Jones – 5:29
The “overwhelming bipartisam belief of WMD in Iraq” was based on Congress actually believing Bush and Cheney were telling the truth.
Are you wearing blinders on purpose or just blowing smoke?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Sock-puppet parade.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Half, perhaps you should trying using both sides of your brain.
And since you brought it up, little Dick Cheney, go find the nearest military recruiting station.
You know, where they will teach you all about that corny “service before self” and “a code of honor” kind of stuff.
Hell, they might just turn you into a real man!
Dharma Bum
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
All that seems to matter to Republicans and Democrats anymore is name-calling… this blog is proving that point perfectly… no substance, just snarky one-liners and chest beating.
smitty
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
kamchak………or another way to put the iraq war resolution vote counts would be…..
40% of house democrats voted aye
58% of senate democrats voted aye
to go along with nearly all republicans for a 70% aye vote from all elected representatives…..not bad
for plurality and somewhat bipartisan…..
compare that with passage of obamacare which had ZERO republican votes in either the house or senate and 34 house democrats who also voted NO………with nancy “i’ll read the bill later” pelosi and harry pushing the final bill through illegally via reconciliation……now thats bipartisanship at its finest…..have a nice day
nancy
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
Plain and simple, if Obama wants all of us “wingnuts” to shut up about this, all he has to do is get on the liberal news media and tell us all exactly what happened. Tell us why help was denied BEFORE 9/11. Why help was denied during the attack. Let us see the video he watched. Prove us wrong. But, I suppose he won’t be able to do that until AFTER the election. Because he knows if we know what he knew, he’d lose. If he handled everything correctly, we’d know all about it by now
Gessiewtf
October 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
You Sir, are a simpleton.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
That is Admiral Orange to you, Jay.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Indigo, It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
The CIA was in horrible shape just before Bush took office and also during his years in office, they still need a lot of help as is obvious by all the love shown towards us around the World.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Indigo, It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
The CIA was in horrible shape just before Bush took office and also during his years in office, they still need a lot of help as is obvious by all the love shown towards us around the World.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
“Black man voting” is flying under false colors, so to speak. If he continues, he will be banned.
Aquagirl
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Sock-puppet parade.
Because if you’re so confused you 1) can’t tell the difference between a consulate and embassy, and 2) think an embassy is “on home soil” then all you have left is sockpuppeting. Because real people laugh in your face a lot.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
Sorry for the double post.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
…..not bad
for plurality and somewhat bipartisan…
The original claim was “overwhelming”.
You might as well put those goalposts back where you found them. I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night, sport.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
“The “overwhelming bipartisam belief of WMD in Iraq” was based on Congress actually believing Bush and Cheney were telling the truth.”–Sock Puppet
No Sock Puppet, the Congres doesn’t just go off of what the Executive Branch says…
Congress looks at Intelligence reports as well. Wake up and learn to read and think for yourself.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…
But you couldn’t care less about justice for the Americans (not to be confused with “people”) killed in the attacks at our diplomatic facilities when Bush was president.
Four years ago, then-candidate Barack Obama decried what he described as “the politics of insult.”
“You don’t deserve a bunch of name-calling,” he told a Virginia crowd in the summer of 2008. “You don’t deserve a bunch of mudslinging.”
CJ, you are following the O play-book word for word. Somehow I am not at all surprised. Defend, deflect and namecall…’cause that’s all ‘ya got, isn’t it? Man up and admit!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
Not even in the same time zone as the truth.
Just sayin’.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
Orange
Strike what, where, how?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
“You soft-on-terror neocons are just gonna have to suck it up and realize that the skinny black Muslim punked you at your own national security game.”
Oh, you mean like O’bozo giving Iraq to Iran?
Or O’bozo raising the ol’ white flag in Afghanistan?
Or O’bozo being such a ‘fraidy cat he thinks losing four lives is better than risking a “Desert One” or “Blackhawk Down” possibility?
I have tape of a conversation between O’bozo and the ambassador:
“Chris, sucks to be you. I have an election to win.”
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Half, perhaps you should trying using both sides of your brain.
And since you brought it up, little Dick Cheney, go find the nearest military recruiting station.
You know, where they will teach you all about that corny “service before self” and “a code of honor” kind of stuff.
Hell, they might just turn you into a real man!
JamitVet, Are you sure that your not GetaClue? You really sound like him.
Keith
October 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
I hate to feel this way but it appears that President Obama wanted Christopher Stevens dead (or didn’t care if he died) based on current info. I don’t have a clue as to why but I would like to hear a full account from the administration BEFORE the election. Waiting for voting to end is highly suspect and not confidence inspiring.
Michael
October 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
I would like to know how long the Navy Seals practiced for the assault on the OBL compound in Pakistan. From what I understand they had a mock up of the suspected compound and probably did several practice runs.
The situation in Benghazi was over in one night. I think the faux outrage here is disingenuous. Our arm chair John Waynes apparently wanted to be airlifted into a town with significant enemy forces in the middle of the night. I think you should take another look at Black Hawk down. You might learn something about night time operations in unfamiliar urban areas against an unknown number of assailants.
Obama’s problem is that he did not learn from Bush’s cover up of the killing of Pat Tillman. In that case Tillman’s death was used for political gain, and his family did not know it was friendly fire until a month after the event. This, in spite of the fact that General McChristal warned Washington that it was probably friendly fire before the funeral.
It happened in the spring of 2004, and was handled so well, that I don’t recall any issue being raised during that election year.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
SINKWICH
“Uh, more than NOTHING?”
Okay. What?
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
“but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.”
Actually Dubs, if you’ll get your head out of the Fox brainwashing machine, you’d know that on the same day in Cairo, protests over the video were very heated. There were also protests in other areas at the same time and several days afterward. The president didn’t make that up- it’s in the news.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
More Bad news for the Obama Regime…
New Projection of Election Results: Romney 52, Obama 47
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-poll-projects-romney-52-obama-47_658066.html
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
MADONNA BOOED AFTER TOUTING OBAMA IN LA. CONCERT
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PEOPLE_MADONNA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-28-04-26-51
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
No Sock Puppet, the Congres doesn’t just go off of what the Executive Branch says…
Congress looks at Intelligence reports as well. Wake up and learn to read and think for yourself.
And how did the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, vote? He voted no, which is one reason I didn’t cut Hillary much slack for voting yes.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
nancy nailed it.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
I am sure all Republican’s would agree there is no such thing as Global warming…heck peace and calm is all we expect from the weather !
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
“And how did the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, vote? He voted no, which is one reason I didn’t cut Hillary much slack for voting yes.”–Jay
Jay, the point is that The U.S. doesn’t just go to WAR because Dick Chenney and G’Dud dial up Congress and say we are going. Congress voted on going into Iraq based on INTELLIGENCE reports; NOT “W” saying We’re going in, Boys. I know that doesn’t fit your distorted and dishonest portrayal of Bush.
Media has no soul
October 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
To post such a rubbish piece after several good men gave their lives for this country in Benghazi, including two of our best & brightest Navy Seals, is unconscionable. They were left to die, & despite the media’s dereliction of duty, everyone who is following this story knows it.. It’s time for Obama & his cowardly minions to go.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
USMC . Really what you are saying is the Bush Administration did not protect America, and couldn’t really figure out what was happening..even with the intelligence they acquired.
But we all know the truth.the war was about the Oil, and all was a scam.
Bush, Cheney and the buddies……. bilked America..and they did a great job putting America behind ten plus years….and cost American tax payers trillions for the benefit of a few.
You should be proud of the few…….
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
In other news, a 3.9 along the New Madrid…
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:11 pm
USMC . the US went to war after they convinced Powell to tell the tall tale at the UN.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I disagree, USMC. As the infamous Downing Street memo reported, “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of going to war. The intel was cooked to support the policy that needed supporting.
The critical “tell” is the fact that after Saddam let the UN inspectors into his country, and after he gave them absolute freedom to inspect where they wanted, and after those UN inspectors visited the sites that the CIA claimed were WMD sites and found absolutely nothing, even after all that, we forced the withdrawal of the inspectors and invaded anyway.
The WMD were an excuse. Nothing more.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
“Bush, Cheney and the buddies……. bilked America..and they did a great job putting America behind ten plus years….and cost American tax payers trillions for the benefit of a few.”–Peter
Peter is in Meltdown mode because he knows Jimmy Carter Light… I mean Obama is going to LOSE!
What does your statement have to do with Benghazi exactly???? Your HATE and bluster for Bush/Cheney is duly noted.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I would like to know how long the Navy Seals practiced for the assault on the OBL compound in Pakistan.
I believe they trained for about six months in preparation for the eventual mission.
Uh, more than NOTHING?
General Andy says:
Ready! Fire! Aim!
The man just makes up out of thin air a bunch of lies that would not get past a quick tenth grader.
Not that the cartoonish sock puppets here are anything more than illustrative of the collective lack of courage and grey matter in the right wing, but which one is half-brained?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
“SINKWICH
“Uh, more than NOTHING?”
Okay. What?”
Well, I’m not as smart as your Preezy of the Stezzy, but I’ve heard of things like bullets, missiles, jet fighters, drones, and such. What didn’t your idiot ask a general what options were available?
He did NOTHING. Four dead.
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Mental health professionals have a name for the condition you wingnuts are experiencing these days: Projection. You Cons are just p!ssed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld etal have all been so dishonored by their actions that your Party can’t even speak their names to the American people anymore — you don’t even invite them to your big party in Tampa this past August! It’s not the liberals fault that you Cons got on board with that very bad idea of invading and bombing Iraq to smithereens, and committing lie after lie about the reasons why you wanted to do that all that war-mongering.
You’re all foaming at the mouth for some type of “scandal” that you can dump on Our President, all because you’re feeling so damn guilty for all the crimes that you have allowed your Party to commit against Americans and the rest of the world. Deal with it, Cons — you’re being dumped again on Nov. 6th!
Obama/Biden 2012 — Forward We Go!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
JAY,
Seems you and everyone but Fox News are hoping and praying that this issue goes away and in a hurry…that won’t happen anymore than it would happen if shoe on other foot…they had a drone in the air, told local operatives to stand down, identified this as a clear act of terror as confirmed by BO’s rose garden banter..and at going on 2 months now, no explanation why the accounts by the adminstration were so muddled..
You can click your rosy slippers as much as you like but this isn’t going to go away simply because you think you, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and the NYT’s (that with their own poller silver who resume includes nothing pre-ceding 2008) have a corner on the truth..
It’s not gonna go away so maybe you should keep trying to get more information and ask yourself why the bungled communications?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
JAY BOOKMAN: “The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
I just got done with dinner and saw your post.
May I ask why you have to be so bitter and call me a name such as rube?
Can you. It answer for why your hypocrisy of calling one candidate a chickenhawk and the other you gloss over with no mention. Then still don’t respond when asked about it.
Nevermind you don’t know anything about me and obviously not that I voted for Obama in 08.
Guess that makes me a republican.
Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are always wrong and it doesn’t mean you have to call names.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
GOLDIE
Wow, did you write that yourself? Seems like standard lunatic left hand jive who are projecting that the BO adminstration handled this in the correct fashion…you nor I can possibly know so any suggestions to the contrary are absurd..
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
It’s going away, Stevie Ray, and it’s going away in a little more than a week.
Now, it’s entirely possible that investigations under way by the State Department will come back and say we should have done this better and we should have done that better. That’s why they do after-action reports in the first place, to improve operations and reduce chances of repeating the same mistake.
But the operatic melodramatic BS that the right is pushing will end after the election, one way or the other.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
sink **Oh, you mean like O’bozo giving Iraq to Iran?**
Correction: it was the previous president who handed iraq over to iran, saddam functioned as a counter weight and we had him boxed in; iraq war of choice? Very ignorant call…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
I think Goldie needs to start listening to RUSH LIMBAUGH and watch more FOX News to educate herself.
She sure is Ignorant.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/180
Classic post! But, but, it was a video, no wait, it was terror, no a video, no wait terror…how the Libs can so quickly dismiss this is similar to an ostrich sticking its head in the sand…comical
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
So Jay now wants to talk about the Iraq thing from a decade ago instead of Benghazi?
It’s because he lost the argument. Even rabid lefties can’t defend O’bozo’s disregard for American lives.
Bummer.
Greg
October 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
Jay you have been drinking too much kool-aid. The expert Gen. Carter Ham that you mentioned was reassigned last week. Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command. The truth will come out. I really do not understand why we are even having the election since if Obama is elected we will just have to impeach him. At least Richard Nixon did not get anyone killed he just covered up something he had no direct involvement in.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
JAY
It won’t go away no matter who wins…you know better than me that the GOP will keep the heat on and keep focus on this…certainly with more feroicity than they are now…if Romney wins, it will still be pursued but certainly relegated..
You and lib outlets don’t cover this because you are biased and won’t hear of your guy being criticized…what’s new…lunatic left fringe you are….
Rick H.
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Go to Hell you son of a bitch
David
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Jay, who pays you to write this nonsense? Answer me this.. Why was Stevens’ security drawn-down prior to 9/11? Panetta says a military response would’ve been “too risky”.. Then why do we bother to have a military if they won’t accept “harm’s way”? So, this whole thing started because of a “YouTube video”. That’s all we heard from 0bama, Clinton and Susan Rice for days was “YouTube video”.. How can military intervention in response to a protest over a video be considered “TOO RISKY”? Jay, there ARE legitimate questions but unfortunately you’ll never be able to ask them because although 0bama is busy HOLDING PRESS CONFERENCES FOR HURRICANE SANDY, HE APPARENTLY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT WHY FOUR AMERICANS ARE DEAD IN BENGHAZI. Jay, if you don’t think there is a COVER-UP going on here, you are the most naive 0bama shill that ever walked the Earth. Put on your ‘objective’ glasses and SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS; A COVER-UP!
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Well, I’m not as smart as your Preezy of the Stezzy, but I’ve heard of things like bullets, missiles, jet fighters, drones, and such.”
To fire at what? Anyone in a turban? Oh wait, that might include some of the locals providing security. Blow up buildings? Well, since we didn’t know where our people all were, that’s a bad idea. At what exactly were they supposed to fire all that ammo? Did the attackers put on bright orange tags or have some specific marking to indicate who they were?
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Forbes magazine, Nov. 2011 — “A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed…”
Ignorant Cons.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Greg:
The expert Gen. Carter Ham that you mentioned was reassigned last week.
No, he wasn’t. He holds the same job and responsibilities today that he did prior to the attack.
Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command.
If by “stories” you mean made-up fictions, you are correct. Any other reading of the word “stories” makes that a false statement.
The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.
Bob Selby
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
“It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives.”
It sounds like Mr. Panetta and our top military knew it wasn’t an impromptu, video-outrage mob protest. Seven hours, battle, mortars, multiple locations….the point you are indirectly making Mr. Bookman is the inconsistency between what the President and his reports shared with the media for days, and what POTUS actually knew at the time of the attack…
As a journalist, how do you reconcile that?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
JAY
Who is this RICH cat and why is he first assuming hell exists, and second issuing an invitation for unnamed individual to visit permanent-like…do you have no minimum posting requirements?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Mental health professionals have a name for the condition you wingnuts are experiencing these days: Projection. You Cons are just p!ssed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld etal have all been so dishonored by their actions that your Party can’t even speak their names to the American people anymore — you don’t even invite them to your big party in Tampa this past August!
Wow, who knew that you could diagnose such a condition over the internet? WHAT will they think of next? Today’s technology simply amazes me.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
From Defense Management——————————–this happened within a coupla hours———————
“The UK’s Royal Air Force on Aug. 22 boasted that its Reaper drones helped uncover a stash of heroin with an estimated street value of over £10 million. The Reapers, remotely piloted by members of the RAF’s 39 Squadron, tracked two vehicles after determining that they were likely to contain the hidden compartments typically used by drug traffickers. One vehicle was low on its suspension, while the rear of an accompanying flatbed truck appeared too shallow, suggesting a hidden storage area. A raid on the two vehicles by Afghan National Security Forces and theUS MARINE CORPS led to the seizure of 1,208 kilograms of dry opium and 59 kilograms of processed heroin. (Defence Management, Aug. 22)”
.
Throw a few million dollars worth of Opiate money in the mix……….and everybody would have been alright.
.
But then again………….maybe there WAS a few million dollars of Opiate money involved.
.
Ya can’t trust the federalies.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
“bullets,”
Fired from guns you got there how?
“missiles, ‘
Targeting what?
:jet fighters,”
Aiming at the compound?
“drones,”
Zapping what?
“and such.”
None of which would have gotten those inside out alive…
“What didn’t your idiot ask a general what options were available?”
Why is he MY idiot? He’s just as much YOURS. Did he ask or didn’t he…and why a general? Army, Marine, Air Force? Why not an admiral?
Doug Book
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Another liberal defending Obama in spite of the overwhelming evidence of his guilt in betraying 4 men to their death. Gee, what a shock!
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
David: to summarize your post: “It’s a cover up and I just know it…don’t bother me with facts!
That about right?
Now as to press conferences about Sandy. Hello? Do you think any president or candidate is going to ignore that monster? How Bush-like would that be? What do you expect him to do, hold a Benghazi hearing and press conference from FEMS HQ or maybe the boardwalk at Atlantic City? Get a grip dude.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Anyone with a brain knew when OBAMA/UN Ambassador Rice said the Benghazi TERROR incident was caused by a YOUTUBE video that something didn’t pass the smell test.
What a joke. It’s almost as bad as telling the enemy in Afghanistan WHEN you plan to pull your troops out.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
**Even rabid lefties can’t defend O’bozo’s disregard for American lives.**
Gee….didn’t the previous guy, uh like disregard the lives of over 4,000 american soldierrs and 30,000 severely wounded soldiers or maybe upwards of 100,000 innocent iraqi dead and your raging about 4? Saturday night in orlando is getting at least 4 americans killed every weekend…
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
“Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are always wrong and it doesn’t mean you have to call names.”
Uh ohhhh, Marty, now he’s gonna call you a chairborn, Pluto-person, corporator and such.
His vocabulary is kinda limited.
Dirty Dawg
October 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
What Romney knows is that the ‘false flag’ aspect of this whole sorry mess will one day be ‘outed’…and they want to be able to have plausible deniability. And for those that are saying this is worse than Watergate…first of all, the facts will reveal the reality, but of greater import is the knowledge that the Watergate burglars were acting on Nixon/Republican paranoiria that the Democrats had evidence at their headquarters of Nixon/Kissinger/Agnew’s sabotage of Johnson’s efforts to end the Vietnam war back in ‘68, just so the Republicans could win a damned election…the sabatage succeeded…the war contined for another four years and another 25,000 US soldiers died…but Nixon got returned to office – for a while. Now, you want to talk about traitors?
butterdezillion
October 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
Tyrone Woods was on the top of the CIA annex building, shooting to protect the building (and the 30 people he had helped rescue) from enemy fire. He took the time out to laser-paint the source of the enemy fire for an armed drone that was on-site, while coordinates for the target were sent to the drone as well. Obama and his regime refused to trust Woods to tell them where the enemy was shooting from.
Retired General Keane told Geraldo Rivera that the drone has narrow vision and couldn’t see. They had the target painted by a guy who had already risked his life to rescue 30 people, was risking his life to be on the top of the building protecting the 30 people he had just rescued, and was later found dead on that building killed by the target he had painted after having fought with blood-caked weapon to defend those people. Why in the heck would leadership distrust a guy of that caliber?
Under those rules of engagement, the only enemies we could ever fire at are the ones that are directly seen by a general in Washington DC. Why don’t we just line up our soldiers and shoot them all if that’s the anal micro-management and distrust of our military heroes that this regime operates under?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Classic
Woods, Doherty, and others who were part of the CIA’s response team, were not stationed in Libya to protect the U.S. consulate or the embassy in Tripoli. Prior to the attack, their mission had been to locate and collect more than 20,000 shoulder-held missiles known as MANPADS, which had gone missing after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.
“hell Vern, I coulda swore they were here a minute ago…I just went to pee..”
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
Maybe I’ll meet you there, Rick H.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“To fire at what? Anyone in a turban?”
Would let ‘em know we’re serious, don’t cha think?
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command.”
Bwaaa — are these “stories” from the same website where Romney saw “a story” about Jeep exporting American jobs over to China??? All these “stories” that you Cons conveniently write every day about on the Internet machines???
LOL!
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“Correction: it was the previous president who handed iraq over to iran, saddam functioned as a counter weight and we had him boxed in; iraq war of choice? Very ignorant call…”–Mick
-not intended to be a factual statement!
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
So who is the next US ambassador to Libya that will work for Hillary or Obama?
.
Do they have to draw straws?
.
Personally……I think that the warmonger Leiberman would make a good pick.
Or possibly Powell.
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
“What a joke. It’s almost as bad as telling the enemy in Afghanistan WHEN you plan to pull your troops out.”
Just like your guy Mitt agreed to do during the last debate… ignorant Con.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
“The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.”
After the election, huh Jay?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
“Maybe I’ll meet you there, Rick H.”–JAY
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
Jealous Often?
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
The question is, how many independents’ votes will be swayed by this last ditch effort to impugn Obama’s integrity and capability? My guess is, not many at all. Most will see it for what it is: a last ditch effort to impugn Obama’s integrity and capability. This is the right wing preaching to the choir, straining on the toilet to release one more attack on Ocean Obama, eyes bugged out, blood pressure pegging.
Not defending Obama. Just a moderate’s view of a bunch of whiny, irresponsible tyrants doing what they do best.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
“Would let ‘em know we’re serious, don’t cha think?
No, Sinkwich, it would let them know that we AREN’T serious.
Serious people don’t wade into a situation and start killing people indiscriminately just to prove a point about how tough they are. Adolescent gang members with no brains or sense of morality, and no confidence in their own masculinity, do that.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
usmc – not intended to be a factual person…
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
You seem to be jumping to a conclusion about your own whereabouts, USMC.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
“Just like your guy Mitt agreed to do during the last debate… ignorant Con.”–Tarnished
It’s not always what you do, it’s how you do it. But is sounds like you are not complex enough to grasp that idea.
Cell phone Much???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:35 pm
Adolescent gang members with no brains or sense of morality, and no confidence in their own masculinity, do that.
We also call them neocons or simply Republicans. Where was the USMC when the ambassador was killed. The USMC let us down. Why! WHY!
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
The bottom of the ditch, if that high, is hardly referred to as “up”.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
JAY
@ 7:32
Beat me to it and said it better…
RICK H
The Imam Torquemada SENDS people to hell…jeeze, Mec, get with the program…
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
Can you. It answer for why your hypocrisy of calling one candidate a chickenhawk and the other you gloss over with no mention.
Either you are exceedingly “new” here or you are poorly read.
I’ve blasted BHO since before he was elected. I warned my fellow liberals (NOT to be confused with Democrats) to be prepared to be very disappointed in him. I voted against him and explained in detail why.
Had Ralph Nader not been an option, I would have voted for John McCain. Who unlike Flip, has a pair and is a solid, decent man of principle. I would have been unhappy in doing so, but would and will never vote for Obama.
Ultimately, there is very little real difference between Barack and George – both are pro-war/war criminals, pro-corporation and anti-working class. They take their marching orders from the same 1% plutocracy.
At least Obama is not pro-torture, anti-science (can you say globally cooled, Rick Perry?) and anti-environment as well.
And if you are so easily offended by the word rube, you are probably not going to do very well here. Even so, my apologies.
Gentsu Gen
October 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
Option 3: Romney is smart enough to let the media outrage over the President’s refusal to release details about this–and specifically and most importantly what his personal involvement was (which requires no ‘investigation”; I’m willing to accept that his memory is good enough)–and he’s just waiting for enough of the truth to be revealed before Nov 2 to have an impact.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:39 pm
“You seem to be jumping to a conclusion about your own whereabouts, USMC.”–JAY
That was Funny, Jay! Touche!
Ed Miles
October 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Jay Bookman, you are a coward! Hard to believe there are Americans like you living in this country!
Very sad!
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:42 pm
ooooooo…lions, tigers and benghazi’s..watch out!!!
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:42 pm
IMAM, USMC
Y’all might want to take a sweater, though…
http://weather.yahoo.com/united-states/michigan/hell-2419784/
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
““Would let ‘em know we’re serious, don’t cha think?
No, Sinkwich, it would let them know that we AREN’T serious.”
Serious means if one tries to assault an American embassy or consulate, or is anywhere near such an assault, it’s gonna be a bad day for you.
That is “serious.”
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:44 pm
“We also call them neocons or simply Republicans. Where was the USMC when the ambassador was killed. The USMC let us down. Why! WHY!”–Taxpayer
LOL! What a stupid statement, but then again look who said it. Not much intelligence there.
I think Taxpayer was at the rally, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
JoeThePimpernel
October 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Are you f*****g kidding me?
If Benghazi is “right-wing hysteria,” then Watergate was Left-wing hysteria to the tenth power.
People died in Benghazi on Ubama’s watch. Keeping our ambassadors safe is at the very top of the list of the feral government’s responsibilities. Ubama has usurped so many domestic powers that he has no right to usurp, but the things he is actually supposed to be doing we give him a pass on?
You’ve gone way past delusional and have finally arrived at your aiding-and-abetting the enemy destination.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Republicans are seriously delusional. They want to be in a perpetual war that is funded by perpetual tax cuts. Then again, Republicans do live their lives in faith-based realities.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
MILES
You might wanna thing twice…Big Daddy’s a half-hillbilly military brat with a mean streak…this urbane sophisticate intellectual day job is just a cover…:-)
Georgia
October 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
So Glenn Beck proved that it was Hillary all along. She alone knew that Obama was reading “My Pet Goat”, when Benghazi broke.
Empty hair is the new potted plant. Trump is a potted plant, the first one I’ve ever seen. The stench just isn’t fading. I wonder how many heads are rolling. Who didn’t move heaven and earth to stop him? Wow. I certainly don’t care to ever see Trump again, or hear that commanding delivery of his.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
“ooooooo…lions, tigers and benghazi’s..watch out!!!”–Mick
Great Mick, tell that to the 4 people killed due to Obama’s Ineptitude.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
That is one of the few times I have seen you post anything of that sort.
Maybe you could give us some links of other times you have done so.
May I ask why me pointing out basically exactly what you posted makes me a Republican Rube I believe is what you called me?
I have maintained for the last two years that President Obama is GWB with a better tab and a different stance on abortion.
From what you have posted I assume you are voting then for the the lesser of two evils?
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Given the Ed Miles post and others, I suspect we must have been posted at some right-wing site ….
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
General Andy roars!
Ready! Fire! Aim!
(He went to the Dick Cheney Academy of Military Response.)
Which is to say we went to war with the dipsh*t VP we had not the competent VP we would have liked to have…
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
Where was the USMC when the ambassador needed him/them. The USMC failed US and the ambassador. Why! WHY! Why is the USMC a failure. What do they need? More money? A guaranteed pension plan!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
7:49 pm
Given the Ed Miles post and others, I suspect we must have been posted at some right-wing site ….
Drive-by trolls.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
So a YouTube Video was at fault for the deaths at Benghazi, that’s it.
And the Obama regime sent the militia out to arrest a citizen in California…. Sad!
That’s worse than the Apple Dumplin’ Gang!
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
IMAM
You sayin’ they ain’t from ’round cheer?
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
usmc
I like how you blame the president instead of the people who attacked…convoluted blame, that’s the heart of this matter…
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
USMC–the epitome of empty and of course he needs someone to tell him. It’s not as though that straw man has a brain.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:52 pm
And after a little checking around, I found it: It’s “The Revenge of the Freepers!”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2952063/posts
My favorite post so far on that thread:
“If Stevens was offed because the Russians had figured out that he was managing the CIA operation running weapons to Syria through Turkey, or because of his long relationship with the President and the knowledge that he is at least bisexual, then Zero would need him dead in either case, lest he be nabbed and forced to talk.
Should that news finally make it past the MSM spike, it then wouldn’t be just “right wingers” who would be “hysterical.”
I’m not going to read further, but I have a feeling that one will be hard to top. But hey, if you find something even more entertaining, feel free to post it. I’m running off to meet some folks.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
“Y’all might want to take a sweater, though…”–Josef
St Simons
October 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
If the wingnutz reeeeeally wanna manufacture some outrage to excite
their base to show up, they should look into that watermelon patch
in the back yard of the white house, or that picture of the president
with the bone in his nose & a cig in his mouth. You’ve seen the emails.
THAT’ll stir em up.
Cmon cons – think ‘target marketing’
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
“Which is to say we went to war with the dipsh*t VP we had not the competent VP we would have liked to have…”
Biden? He’s as incompetent as you are.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Marty, it would seem that we both have each other pegged incorrectly!
From what you have posted I assume you are voting then for the the lesser of two evils?
Then you assume incorrectly.
I do not do that. I vote my conscience and for the man I think is the best one in the race.
“That lesser of two evils” crap is just code for the Republicrat stranglehold on our democracy. (I love how that d word drives the neocons apesh*t!)
Nader is much more correct – the proper phraseology (put that in your vocabulary pipe and smoke it, Andy) is the evil of the two lessers.
And again I have made repeated posts about who I will cast my vote for and why.
http://www.voterocky.org/
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
USMC
Me? Well, I HAVE been to Hell and back!
vince
October 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
This is why I DO NOT GET The Atlanta Urinal any more. Jay is a A$$ and I will not support it.
sara
October 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Hey Jay, would you be willing to fill AmbassadorSteven’s job in Libya? I’m sure you’ll agree it is perfectly safe…right?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
“I like how you blame the president instead of the people who attacked…convoluted blame, that’s the heart of this matter…”–Mick
No Mick, I am not afraid to BLAME the TERRORIST for the attack on Benghazi.
IMAM Obama on the other hand WAS scared to call it a TERRORIST attack.
OBAMA BLAMED THE ATTACK AT BENGHAZI ON A FRIGGIN YOUTUBE VIDEO! What a moron. This is what happens when you put a man in office with NO experience.
What a joke!
JKL2
October 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
USMC- MADONNA BOOED AFTER TOUTING OBAMA IN LA. CONCERT
Can we at least agree that she’s a slut?
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:57 pm
Cmon cons – think ‘target marketing’
That’s easy for you to say but come on! A Republican that thinks!
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
I think most people in the electorate now view Obama as a self serving president with little regard for the true good of our country. Benghazi only illustrates once again for many what’s already known about this narcissistic president. He puts himself above what’s right but his followers refuse to acknowledge his short comings only because of their blind allegiance to an ideology that the majority of Americans repudiate.
TurnThePage
October 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
What’s amazing is all the foreign policy successes we don’t hear about because they were successful and deemed not useful political footballs to attack the President with.
Ask yourself this: Are you angered by the death of our ambassador because he was killed brutally by a mob or because you now are apart of an angry mob yourself and want the taste of blood satisfied?
Let it go…Romney already has because there’s nothing there.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
“Me? Well, I HAVE been to Hell and back!”
That’s why I’m hanging with you, Josef!
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
vince
You did exactly that by coming on the AJC website then clicking on the article.
The AJC and Bookman appreciates your patronage.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
C’mon, General Andy.
Even by your lameass standards that last one was childishly weak. (An air ball of blogging, as it were.)
Up your game or go back to Kyle’s, where you are exalted as a mental giant of Republican thought…
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
usmc
Your poutrage is the real joke….maybe you’ll get your wish and romney will be your man, it’s almost a certainty that events will occur, then we’ll see if the etch a sketch is working properly…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
“Can we at least agree that she’s a slut?”
I will go as far as MORON or USEFUL IDIOT, well…. you do have a point there.
I just don’t want to get on Jay’s bad side.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
This is why I DO NOT GET The Atlanta Urinal any more. Jay is a A$$ and I will not support it.
I just love it when cons show up to tell everyone that they are not here to support the AJC. They’s so funny.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
recon
Glad you think that you speak for “most americans”, I wouldn’t even go there…
brianhd71
October 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
I wouldn’t call it hysteria. Why don’t you explain how Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods can beg for help while their lives are on the line and our president can go to bed early because he has to campaign the next day. How does that make sense in any universe? Blame it on a video. Make it go away! We can’t brag about sending the terrorists on the run while our embassy burns!
Violating Libyan soveriegnty? What about ours? Why weren’t US Marines stationed their already? This is the most incompetent administration since Carter, but the real shame is the lack of coverage by the mainstream media and the piss poor excuses by Jay Bookman
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
Odd how the con poutrage is so perfectly synchronized with the finger movements of their owners. By the way, why did the USMC fail our President. Why! WHY! The USMC fails and people die! Good thing he has reliable Seals.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
“Your poutrage is the real joke….maybe you’ll get your wish and romney will be your man, it’s almost a certainty that events will occur, then we’ll see if the etch a sketch is working properly…”–MICK
Whatever Mick, you still don’t make any sense; even when you try and use big words you are not comfortable with.
Aren’t you the one that was Championing Socialism a few months??? That’s what I thought!
josef
October 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
MICK
Not all Americans, just the closet cases…
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Mick you speak for 20%…enjoy it, while the rest of us concern ourselves with what’s best America and our children.
josef
October 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
MICK
Those children being only those come by “the natural way” of course…
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
Why don’t you explain how Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods can beg for help while their lives are on the line and our president can go to bed early because he has to campaign the next day.
But he stayed up and watched the whole thang on live feed! You really need to synchronize your faith-based reality with the rest of the faith-based con realities.
YouLibs
October 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
If you don’t have an economic policy that you’re willing to lay out clearly for the electorate, if you’re not willing to be transparent about your taxes for the past few years, if the only thing you have to offer to those of the electorate who got the Y chromosome is a trip backwards for forty years, but you want to get your hands back on the power structure, what do you do?
You lie, you obfuscate, you make people afraid of gay folks, you make people afraid that someone is going to take their guns away, and most recently, you make Benghazi seem like a bigger deal than 9/11/01. It’s pretty disgusting to me.
Jessica
October 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Can you honestly say that what happened in Benghazi is getting too much media attention, or even adequate coverage? It appears that the so-called journalists in this country have chosen not to investigate the incompetence and/or corruption here because they are afraid it will look bad for the President. It’s no secret that the media folks generally like Obama and don’t want to hurt his chances for reelection – even if that means ignoring something as important as what happened in Benghazi. It’s sad and shameful that the only ones who are willing to actually look into the whole mess are the hacks at Fox News.
josef
October 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
TAXI
@ 8:06
Logic and proportion having fallen sloppy dead…
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
recon
I’ll gladly enjoy my life with those 20 percenters if you somehow think you are with the other 80…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
“Odd how the con poutrage is so perfectly synchronized with the finger movements of their owners. By the way, why did the USMC fail our President. Why! WHY! The USMC fails and people die! Good thing he has reliable Seals.”
I don’t need to say anything, Taxpayer.
You make yourself look like the idiot you truly are. It’s fun to watch! Have at it!
Billybob
October 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
blah blah blah……….the lie about a video to the people of america and to everyone listening to hussein at the UN will come out in the investigation and we can talk again jay…..8 days until your ideology is out of power and buried by hussein’s own words for years to come……enjoy lib
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
mick, thank you…I am and I will.
josef
October 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
YOU LIBS
“…you make people afraid of gay folks, you make people afraid that someone is going to take their guns away…”
Well, as long as they don’t take away the gay folks guns…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
“But he stayed up and watched the whole thang on live feed! You really need to synchronize your faith-based reality with the rest of the faith-based con realities.”–W-2 Taxpayer
Taxpayer is voting for a CHRISTIAN! But don’t tell her!
Oh the outrage!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
You make yourself look like the idiot you truly are.
Oh, the irony.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
“You make yourself look like the idiot you truly are. It’s fun to watch! Have at it!,” USMC exclaims as he types single handedly while winking at himself in the mirror.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
The good news?
You fake conservtives and your fake conservative candidate only have eight more days of this particular hell.
THEN…
You get to move to the next inner circle in Dante’s story!
Hang tough, and don’t go too postal, though.
2016 is just around the corner!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
…..8 days until your ideology is out of power and buried by hussein’s own words for years to come…
Another prediction bookmarked.
Will you still be here after the election?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
The libs are in a panic about what’s appearing more each day as their impending loss and America’s rejection of socialism.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
USMC, the faux comrades are in a panic.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
usmc
I think that you need this issue to justify your politics, because at the end of the day, all you conned that feign such sorrow over “four lives lost” just seem to using their deaths for your own political means…
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
Why is it that Republicans interpret “faith-based” to mean “Christian”? Probably some Pavlovian response. They really need to consider branching out and getting a fact-based education.
BufordP
October 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QebIV1e0IwU
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
Just heard that Rasmussan poll in Ohio was +2 for Romney, any chance that is true, after being way behind last several months? No MSNBC followers need respond, thanks!
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Of course “Billybob” will be here after Romney loses. Just writing as Bobbybill or Bubbajohn or gawdknowswho…
Del, took off in a huff and that lasted exactly how long?
The cons cannot quit this place.
Granted, Kyle’s is not the Rue Morgue that Wooten’s place was, but as often as not, it blows…
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
recon
You have met the enemy and it is yourself, the libs don’t even care if you exist…
garyk
October 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
October 25, 2012, Daily Kos: “CNN confirmed yesterday that US intelligence has for the first time publicly acknowledged that some of his assailants belonged to the same al-Qaeda groups…(The Issue raised about) security at the Benghazi consulate is really secondary to the question not being discussed about what the US Ambassador was doing there. How is US national security actually impacted by US covert involvement in regime changes in the region? That is the major policy issue nobody is now talking publicly about. Nonetheless, one can now safely conclude that the larger policy issue of US coordination of regime change operations in the MENA region is implicated by these events, and that there are serious second-thoughts emerging about the wisdom of allowing Islamic militants to be recruited, armed and trained in areas that the US has recently had a role in regime change. “
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
Granted, Kyle’s is not the Rue Morgue that Wooten’s place was, but as often as not, it blows…
Kyle’s is the kiddie table and Criberius holds sway there.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
“the libs don’t even care if you exist…”
Gee mick, you’re a too cool…well you know the rest.
weetamoe
October 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
Or option three: keep quiet and let the nasty vulgar little martinet bring about his own demise. Meanwhile the father of the heroic Navy Seal weeps; Mr Nakoula languishes in solitary; a group of school children are led in a song demonizing the candidate who dared challenge our dear leader; the Pakistani doctor who fingered Osama lingers in solitary; and the reluctance of major media outlets to even report on or discuss such things is adding to the divisiveness and mistrust that might well doom us all. But as said little martinet explained, he *won.*
USMC
October 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
OBAMA ACCEPTS ‘OSAMA BIN LADEN’ DONATIONS….
http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-accepts-osama-bin-laden-donations/
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:25 pm
Whirled Net Daily?
Birthers.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
“Serious means if one tries to assault an American embassy or consulate, or is anywhere near such an assault, it’s gonna be a bad day for you.”
OK. Say Elbonia has a consulate in Cape Hatteras. Now by virtue of a treaty with the UK, Elbonia has a Naval Air Station in the Bahamas.
Now Elbonia does something that riles up the good folks in NC and they march on the Elbonia consulate. It’s a big, mean, nasty, boisterous crowd.
According to your post, Elbonia would be justified in sending in a squadron of A-10’s to strafe NC Rte 12 ?
Joseph
October 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Obama watched the attack in real time Bookman… Its sad that you just can’t except another failure by this failed President……
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/28/Report-Obama-Watched-Benghazi-Attack-From-Situation-Room
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
Jammy, now you know it wasn’t in a huff…I proved a point. Of course you blog over on Kyles and typically get your butt kicked, but kudos for going back for more.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
OBAMA ACCEPTS ‘OSAMA BIN LADEN’ DONATIONS….
Tales from the Crypt! I liked that show.
dp0706
October 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Jay Bookman is a pathetic excuse for a journalist. Its typical of liberal to ignore the facts when it comes to their own but if this would have happened when Bush was in office it would have been front page news every day until the election. Notice how the fatality numbers in Iraq/Afghanistan are not/have not been reported since Obama took office? Gee I wonder why that is……
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Obama watched the attack in real time Bookman
We all did! I mean it was broadcast on CBS and NBC and ABC.. Oh! The cons didn’t get the live feed! Well, FOX News could have gotten the live feed too if they had only said please to President Obama like he asked.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Look isn’t serious, is he?
Methinks it’s likely. Obviously an O’bozo voter.
Or maybe a pinko like Nader.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Foaming at the moth breitbart?
This just keeps getting better and better!
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
USMC
Me? Well, I HAVE been to Hell and back!
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If you are talking about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell,_Michigan
Then I have been there and back as well. I was there the day President Nixon resigned. I was at a church summer “wilderness camp.” We spent a couple of days camping out and learning to survive then went 3 or 4 days on canoes down a river (it was really a creek lol). We stopped in the Hell store on the river where I saw Nixon on the TV resigning. LOL i was a kid and remembered more that I was in Hell, than the significance of the President resigning.
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
Just today Obama said AGAIN, that the ‘folks’ who are responsible for the attack will be brought to justice. He STILL can’t call them TERRORISTS. Can some enlightened sycophant explain to me why? Other than he is MUSLIM sympathizer. Otherwise, it makes no sense.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
USMC.. Obama is in a fight no doubt, will he win.too close to call…….But he DID save the country after the Bush charade……
The Bilking of America for a few…….. the proud the Filthy Rich in the WAR Machine and oil industry.
If the blind lemmings want to hand the powers back to the same crowd, I cannot do a thing about it, but I will vote, and as we know it will not really count, as the other real scam on American’s is the electoral college.
Bush lost the popular vote, but was handed the election 5-4 by the Republican Supreme Court…..if Romney wins the court will move farther to the right, American’s WILL lose more freedoms, and you can be proud you were a part of the shackling of All Americans.
Unfortunately you and your family will lose, because you are not part of the 1%…..if you were you wouldn’t be on this blog.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Jammy, now you know it wasn’t in a huff…I proved a point
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
I suppose maybe it was VIDEO EXTREMISM that was responsible for this attack since no one in this administratiion is allowed to use the term ISLAMIC EXTREMISM.
Dantes
October 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Panetta’s excuse flies in the face of logic and facts. The military is frequently called to missions where there is little or no intelligence. Certainly, they had a drone overhead and someone was attacking the embassy. Hmmm, that’s not hard to figure out, anniversary of 9/11 in a jihadi stronghold. What more did they need to know.
Panetta is lying, and someone in his command structure is lying or derelict of duty.
This is a pretty pathetic attempt at a cover up, even by the low standards of the ajc.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
What exactly is a Muslim sympathizer?
I think there are 700 million or more Muslims.
Does he sympathize for all of them and all their actions or just some of them and some or all their actions?
Explain exactly how that works since you seem to know so much.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Bookman @ 7:25
“The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.”
And will that include that it was a “terrorist” attack ?
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
Of course you blog over on Kyles…
Just to torture you jarhead cut and runners…
On topic, option three is that Flip got so mercilessly hammered over sticking both feet in his nasty mouth from the get go on this matter – by saying that our personnel overseas sympathized with their attackers – that he has cut and run from it altogether.
A timid, weak, little man, unfit to lead.
But these cons could not care less and will vote for him anyway.
Sucks to be them…
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
Unfortunately you and your family will lose, because you are not part of the 1%…..if you were you wouldn’t be on this blog.
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Really? People who make $345,000 aren’t allowed to blog here? I guess I better quit persuing this next business deal or I may be banned……..
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
LIberal Pariah:
“Just today Obama said AGAIN, that the ‘folks’ who are responsible for the attack will be brought to justice. He STILL can’t call them TERRORISTS.”
Two points:
1) If “you” say “folks” that makes you a racist.
2) Bookman can’t bring himself to call them terrorists either.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
“all you conned that feign such sorrow over “four lives lost” just seem to using their deaths for your own political means…”
Kinda like Cindy Sheehan, code pink, and all the anti-war protestors who mysteriously collectively disappeared the day W left office and O walked into office. Where they really anti-war? Or just anti-Bush? The fact that they’ve all but disappeared from the face of the earth as we drone bomb civilian villages in Pakistan gives us the answer.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
My previous comment is in moderation.
Whether you see it or not it was really good!
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
“The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.”
Unfortunately, post election but I think enough has come out now to help make the difference next week.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
Jammy, now you know it wasn’t in a huff…I proved a point.
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Yes it was in a huff and you proved no pont. Well unless the point was that when you call Americans who aren’t far right wing nutcases traitors who should be shot and get called on it you can’t get the person who sets you straight banned for taking you to task…………..
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
I read a comment that says it all. “When Obama needed the SEALs the SEALs risked their lives and when the SEALs needed Obama he watched the SEALs DIE.”
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
“Whether you see it or not it was really good!”
That would be a first, but don’t care whether I actually see it or not.
Just saying
Pizzaman
October 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
Jay,
I didn’t read any comments except the one I see from Joseph at 8:27 PM. Joseph states that the President “watched the attack in real time”. And Joseph you know this how? Were you actually there to see the live feed? What else can you expect from those who hate the President so much that they will “create” anything.
Joseph I personally know General Ham and if he says a rescue wasn’t possible then a rescue wasn’t possible. So continue to spew your venom. Nobody with a brain take’s Beck, Limbaugh or any other Obama hating talking head seriously. But I seriously hope Willard doesn’t win. He’ll make bush/cheny look like saint’s.
Vote early, vote often. Ignore republican voter ID, vote absentee.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
“He STILL can’t call them TERRORISTS.”
It wouldn’t be nice of Obama or politically correct for that matter to call them terrorists.What Obama should have called them is man made disaster enablers.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Just to torture you jarhead cut and runners
Sorry but Marine Corps Vets don’t pay much attention to you…maybe you can do better with bus drivers.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Whether you see it or not it was really good!
Don’t really care to hear your repeated pillow talk to your wife.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Whichever regular posted this article on that site Bookman found, didn’t know that all the additional hits would not hurt AJC or Bookman at all………
Too funny
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Muslim Sympathizer means that you have an affinity for the view of the Muslims more than the country of which you are the President. As witnessed by apologies and appeasement to that particular group of people instead of standing up for America. Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism and it shows in our foreign policy. The history of our nation with respect to other nations is not perfect, but we damn sure don’t owe an apology to people who have murdered Americans and continue to do so. I don’t need a cowboy president but it would be nice to have one with some balls.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
So out of 300 million Americans pizzaman just happens to personally know this General Ham. Sure ya do.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Liberal Pariah
Thanks for the response. Do all Muslims think alike?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Hmmmm….. Del brings up Cindy Sheehan. Meanwhile over at FreeRepublic:
Sure…right-wing conspiracy.
I am so sick of liberals screaming to high heaven about atrocities that happened under Bush, when there was no proof to back up their claims, and then are silent when Obama commits NUMEROUS atrocities that ARE factually proven to have happened.
Cindy Sheehan comes to mind….
21 posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 7:45:03 PM by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
___________________________
So now is Del/Recon also Luck9teen or just taking some teen ideas as his own…..
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
LP
How many Muslims did you personally converse with before you were able to extrapolate the assertions that you are making?
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
Not at all and you know that.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
I read a comment that says it all. “When Obama needed the SEALs the SEALs risked their lives and when the SEALs needed Obama he watched the SEALs DIE.”
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Yeah that comment says a lot. It says anyone who believes that made up crap is an idiot.
It’s funny how the major chicken hawks of this country, Rush, Sean, Neal, Beck, ect…….. are all military experts although none of them has spent a nano second of time in the military or had the balls to risk their life in combat……..
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Forget all the conspiracy theories. Jay, why all the misinformation after the event? POTUS says the morning after, in the Rose Garden, ‘act of terror’ and claims that means he and his administration knew it was a terrorist attack. Then, for the next three weeks he and his administration claim the attack was in response to the video. Please, just answer that question. I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up and you guys in the media are scared to ask the most basic questions, choosing instead, to criticize the real journalist who are seeking real answers. That speaks for itself. I’m thrilled to review the sentiments of this blog. Clearly, Americans are still engaged and feel, rightfully, they deserve answers.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
…have one with some balls.
There’s your sign.
Do you need to borrow DDR’s feather boa?
Just Saying..
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
DowninAll-bennie:
11) Do you already have a conclusion that renders answers to 10 Questions meaningless?
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
I am specifically speaking of the ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS who have documented their intentions by their words and actions. I know it’s hard to understand because you aren’t allowed to say ISLAMIC EXTREMIST but that’s who I am referencing. I have yet to see Obama push back on that particular brand of Islam, or ‘folks’ as he calls them.
mark
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
The author makes many preposterous statements. Perhaps the worst is that “Libyan sovereignty” was a reason not to save tens of American diplomats trapped by a mob in a loosely governed country.
Joseph
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Pizzaman:
Watch the interview. Lt. Schafer says he’s got information that said he did. You can believe who you want but there’s no denying this is a complete and utter failure on the part of the President….
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
You can’t be a real American unless you served in the military…who knew?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up…
Oh noes, bloggers reeking havoc!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
Well Doom when it comes to telling tales from the Whole Food lines, we know you are the best for making it up. Are you going to post as a woman again any time soon?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up and you guys in the media are scared to ask the most basic questions, choosing instead, to criticize the real journalist who are seeking real answers.
Pray tell who are the “real” journalists of whom you speak?
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Kinda like Cindy Sheehan, code pink, and all the anti-war protestors who mysteriously collectively disappeared the day W left office and O walked into office.
Ooops, Doomy.
Wrong.
Dead wrong.
In August 2009, Sheehan protested at Martha’s Vineyard during President Barack Obama’s stay there. According to ABC News: “Sheehan invoked Senator Ted Kennedy’s passing as part of her message, noting that he was firmly anti-war and how he said his proudest vote as a senator was his 2002 vote against the Iraq war.” On October 5, 2009, Sheehan was arrested with 60 others at the White House protesting President Obama’s continuation of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. She told CNN: “I think the mood of the country and the mood of our movement is getting a little bit more desperate, and (that) this will be the time to be able to translate our tireless activism and work for peace.” On December 10, 2009, Sheehan protested on the streets of Oslo, Norway, as President Barack Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize.
On March 20, 2010, Sheehan was again arrested in front of the White House, along with seven others, after they defied orders by officers of the United States Park Police to clear the sidewalk on Pennsylvania Avenue. On July 12, Sheehan and four other activists were on trial in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia stemming from the arrests. The government decided not to try three others arrested that day, and had their cases dismissed. Sheehan and two others were acquitted of crossing a police line, while the other two were found guilty.
That one woman has more courage than the entire “leadership” (what a bad joke) in Washington DC put together…
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Thanks for another profound liberal witicism Fred.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Keep up the good fight still trying to get into a fight but she just can’t make it.
Rochelle
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Do you know that the Ambassador’s own father asked the politicians NOT to use his son as a pawn in their campaigns??? THAT is why Romney hasn’t said anything. He is respecting the father’s wishes and THAT is honorable, in ANY book.
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . . this information is now ABOVE TOP SECRET CLEARANCE . . . of course none of the Obama followers want this information to come out before the election. It’s a shame someone with a blog has ANY pull in something like this . . . people will use what he’s said to back up their sad, excuses as to why Obama didn’t do what he should have. A real President not only takes credit when good things happen(Bin Laden), but goes down with the ship when he’s responsible for the failings. OBVIOUSLY, Obama would never do the latter.
Lissa M.
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Please tell me this Jay fellow is not actually employed by the AJC as a journalist!
Oh, and btw, check out all the blog posts on Huff Po that begin with “If/When Obama loses”…
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
LP
I have used the word Muslim extremists myself, so all that crying you do is hardly needed or called for when you post here.
When you say push back, would using drones not be push back? Would authorizing the military to conduct air-strikes over Libya be any sort of “push back”?
Would the tightening of sanctions on Iran be any sort of “push back”?
You are welcome like anyone else to opine on what he has done or not done, but at least have some intellectual honesty…….. That might be tough for you based on what I have read in the past and today, but you can do it.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
doom
Benghazi and the iraq war have no congruity, yet to you cons it just seems to be served up right for your needs, namely an election. How come six weeks after 911 we weren’t running around blaming bush???
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . .
Please note that jay has DEBUNKED this several times already.
Drive-by trolls should really take the time and read through the comments.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Hey Del, you making more “points” any time soon….. Girl, you is funny. FTroop salute.
Junior Samples
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Bush and Cheney must be at fault here per Obammy.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Ahhh…poor Fred.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred . I am happy you make $300 k plus a year…..and you can brag.. probably makes up for other insecurities…….
But the fact is you are not part of the money i am talking about……if you were making say 10 Million plus a year odds are you wouldn’t be here…..and really the folks that are making it happen with the inside scoop are making more than that…..the Arthur blanks of the world are not even in that group.
But if you are happy to brag…then more power to you !
Derek
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
I thought the AJC had fired Cynthia Tucker because she was too liberal and was hurting their circulation and ad revenue, but I was wrong she just had a sex change operation and came back as Jay Bookman, trying to fool us!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred
Jay has stepped out for this evening, and it is unsure whether he will return.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Kam, no…. its now “above top secret clearance” you know that means only people who can see it are those who see the real birth certificate and the school records.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Thanks for another profound liberal witicism Fred.
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Really? Anyone who drinks not of the Rush Limbaugh koolaid is a “liberal?”
Pray tell, regale me with his qualifications to make judgements on military strategy and tactics? I mean since he did not serve where did he get all his experience from? Call of Duty 4?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
JamVet,
Surprise surprise. I guess she still was protesting. Few of us knew though since her and the anti-war protesters largely disappeared from the evening news after O came into office. I guess they get lots of air time when W is in office but very little play time when its O in office. Good to know at least 60 of them still existed after W left. The other several thousand of them? Hell I dunno.
Really?
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
JamVet – “That one woman has more courage than the entire “leadership” (what a bad joke) in Washington DC put together…” Just lost ALL respect for you!
Cherokee
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
“I have yet to see Obama push back on that particular brand of Islam”
Then you’re not paying attention. Ever hear of drones? Obama has taken our far more terrorists than his predecessor ever did. He just doesn’t call a press conference everytime it happens.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
@F. Sinkwich
I posted my hypothetical to try and determine if you thought the policy of “Ready, Fire, Aim!” was applicable to all or reserved for the US.
You responded with insults.
Typical.
If you want to advocate an engagement policy that is based on “Don’t Fluck with us”. Fine! State it and back it up. Else you are just another clueless sock puppet whose lips are glued to Rush’s derriere.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
1) HURRICAN “SANDY”:
WASHINGTON — Hurricane Sandy is expected to slam the East Coast and the federal government is shut down—but the U.S. servicemen who guard the outdoor Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery will remain on duty.
“THEY WILL NOT ABANDON THEIR POST,” an employee who answered the Arlington Cemetery’s phone confirmed to Yahoo News. He identified himself as “George,” but was not authorized to speak on the record to the media.”
2) BENGHAZI:
But “someone” abandoned our men in Benghazi. I hope they can live with that.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
Rochelle
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . . this information is now ABOVE TOP SECRET CLEARANCE . . .
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Really? Then how are you privy to it? Do you possess the “above top secret clearance” and have the need to know? If so then didn’t you just violate the law by disclosing that information?
Just damn. Do you know how silly you sound?
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yet, strangely enough, Del, you hang on my every post. Before you ran off in a pout to the safety of Kyle’s, you would respond to posts of mine, not even directed at you. Regularly. To the point where you couldn’t even keep your cool with me.
So are you just not representative of Marine vets or simply lying?
LOL, either way you are really way too easy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCxbHjhRKhw
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
“Pray tell, regale me with his qualifications to make judgements on military strategy and tactics?”
Fred,
You obviously have no idea how many games of stratego and battleship some of us played as kids.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
**But “someone” abandoned our men in Benghazi. I hope they can live with that.**
Spoken as if he were an eye witness – not,,,
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Oh my!
Some mystery meat doesn’t like my views very much.
Whatever will I do???
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Fred@8:54pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier. Yes, I know, you will claim since he works for FNC that he’s not real, so save your time and mine, but his reporting on this issue has been superior. At least he’s asking the questions. Face it, Fred, people want answers and 90% of the media refuse to ask the questions.
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
You don’t have to patronize me BOTH. I am a big boy and seem to be one of the few intellectually honest bloggers on here (you of course included)
Obama’s efforts so far have been ineffective and certainly, perceptually, nothing to deter future attacks. If the efforts you cited are his foreign policy with respect to TERRORISM, why can’t he call it what it is? I honestly don’t believe he sees them as the enemy they are because he was raised by his mother and grandparents with a different view of America. Even different from MOST Liberals on this blog.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
Derek
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
I thought the AJC had fired Cynthia Tucker because she was too liberal and was hurting their circulation and ad revenue
Probably. But it also hurt that her columns were full of nothing more than hot air kook rhetoric and hyperbole. The woman wouldn’t know a fact if it bit her in the ass.
jimbob
October 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
Jay’s support for treasonous US leaders, essentially serving as a US State Department shill, is quite sad and pathetic.
But it’s to be expected from someone that would try to sweep this type of treason under the rug but would blame Jewish landowners for the reasons that Muslims do these things.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”–JAY BOOKMAN
LEFT-WING Hysteria in the White House: Obama blames a YOUTUBE video for a Terrorist attack…
… then send the troops to arrest the “film maker” in CALIFORNIA… Go figure!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier.
Aaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnndddd, I quit reading.
Jack
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
What we have to do is shut down those bad old talk show hosts that don’t kowtow to liberal superiority and say bad things about Obama. The nerve of those people.
Just A Grunt
October 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
Hey Jay, before you go running off at the mouth why not pick up the phone and contact somebody in the military rather then relying on what somebody else has written that happens to reinforce your opinion. Everybody seems to be hung up having a Special Ops team swooping in. FACT: There is an Airborne brigade stationed in Italy, they would have had a unit on standby already. They always do, it’s one of those funny things the Army does. Known variously as a Quick Reaction Force (QRF) or Immediate Reaction Force (IRF) Size of the force varies but it wouldn’t have taken long to add to it. They were an hour away. With the available air assets they could have flown there in Blackhawks and fast roped in. If needed within 2 hours they could have probably had a company (100 men) on the ground. Pannetta’s claims about not wanting to go in without all the intel sure didn’t prevent us from going into Grenada, Panama, Somalia, or a dozen other operations. I could go on and on but for those of us with experience in such things his explanation doesn’t pass the smell test and by trying to throw the military under the bus he is opening up a whole can of whup ass. I have also seen were a contingent of Marines were at an airfield in Tripoli and were also forbidden from moving. You know just talking to my friends in arms. Amazing what you can find out by talking to folks in the veteran community.
John
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Don’t worry about it Bookman, President Romney will get to the botom of it soon enough.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
LP
That last response was much better and defined compared to your “Muslim sympathizer” post. While still having a differing opinion, that at least provides something more specific than that paint sprayer you started using.
And for the record, I have called him mediocre. I don’t see him as the total failure that many on the right see him as, but surely nothing special.
Too bad, Mitt the flip is his competition.
Really?
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
JamVet – never mind, just another effing ahole. “Suck it” BOOM
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
LP
excuse me
“Him” meaning Obama
Mick
October 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
usmc
Does not the you tube video that…you know had the arab world out in the streets across the middle east muddy the waters a bit? Seriously, to them it was sacrilege.
Funny how all those street thugs slowly retreated back to their lives, waiting in the wings for the next “insult”…
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
Please Fred. Regale me with tales of Obama’s extensive military service and his countless daring tales of clandestine combat missions. Please post his medals that he has earned.
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Yep, Kamchuck or whatever, I knew you wouldn’t recognize real journalism and would have no response to it. The truth is hard. I understand. When you can’t answer, you just criticize.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
JamVet, this is a blog…I don’t like you or dislike you. When I’m on the blog and certainly off of it, I don’t give you a thought. Hopefully, I’m the same for you. Political blogging isn’t important, or at least it shouldn’t be except for maybe Jay, because that’s how he makes his living.
Johnny
October 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Shameful. Tyrone Woods, this is a true hero, sacrafised his life to save others yet story completely covered up by the state media. Surprising being the state media was anxious to lift up dubious heros like Cindy Sheehan.
Obviously from the head line of this article just another of the state medias political hacks wrote this. Obama covers and lies , Tyrones father claims murder on this one by the state department. Do the citizens of the once great nation of America a favor and start reporting the truth.
Don Abernethy
October 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
More liberal spin to cover up another screw up by the democrats that the media tries to hide.
Cam
October 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Sorry Jay, but Benghazi was a major Obama debacle and this issue has nothing to do with Mitt Romney. BTW, I don’t support Mitt Romney or Barack Obama.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
I knew you wouldn’t recognize real journalism and would have no response to it.
Real journalism?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks, sport.
I needed that laugh.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred . I am happy you make $300 k plus a year…..and you can brag.. probably makes up for other insecurities…….
But the fact is you are not part of the money i am talking about……if you were making say 10 Million plus a year odds are you wouldn’t be here…..and really the folks that are making it happen with the inside scoop are making more than that…..the Arthur blanks of the world are not even in that group.
But if you are happy to brag…then more power to you !
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Where did you come up with $300,000? Those are YOUR numbers. You really should stick to the truth. As to the rest, you said the 1 percenters. One percenters start at $345,000 per year. If you MEANT 10 million you should state that. Don’t get mad at me because we can’t read your mind, only the words you type.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
I honestly don’t believe he sees them as the enemy…
Then you should run for the mayor of Simpleton.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
How about those Christian riots in New York City when the “P*ss Christ” (crucifix in a jar of urine) came back for a second tour last month !
How many were killed ?
Ahem
October 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Jay offers his readers but two options, as if to say there could be no more and thus insulting the intelligence of all but his mind-numbed sycophants. There could be any number of options but let me just pose this one:
Option three. With most of the media clearly on the side of, and pulling for an Oblunda victory, Mitt Romney has chosen to look presidential and stay focused on the economy and what is on the minds of potential voters. He is wise enough to understand how the media operates and how they twist and spin. I think he has shown exactly why he is the optimal choice over Status Quo Bro. He knows that at some point the truth on Benghazi will come to light and he also understands that anyone paying attention has figured out that the Oblunda administration is not being forthright. He knows he will never get a fair shake if he pushes the Benghazi matter and he also knows that at this point in the election cycle, to do so would distract from his winning strategy. The Economy.
twistedmuser
October 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
I like how you tried to change the narrative of the story. Its not what the reaction was or wasn’t, it’s about the fact their story changes every time their mouth opens.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
True Grit,
Your wasting your time. Some people don’t understand the difference between the hard news anchors like a Brett Baier or Sheppard Smith and the partisans on Fox like Hannity or O’Reilly. Not much difference if any between how Shep Smith covers hard news stories like the storm or current events than say Peter Jennings at ABC. But people on the kook left already have their groupthink pre-conceived views and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Just a grunt:
The interval between the coup and the invasion of Grenada was 11 days – not 6 hours.
And we lost 19 troops.
Somalia – well that went real well for the US, didn’t it?
Panama – 5 days between the assault on the army officers at the checkpoint and the invasion. And we lost 23 troops with another 300 or so wounded.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Fred@8:54pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier. Yes, I know, you will claim since he works for FNC that he’s not real,
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No, I will say he’s not a real journalist because his degree is in English and political science, NOT Journalism. Sarah Palin worked at FOX as well, that didn’t make HER a journalist either. I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……………
Try again, I’m not a brain washed talkradio/FOX sock puppet. I actually think.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Ahem
As the Republican nominee hasn’t Romney been receiving intel briefs for a month now?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
You libs should hang your heads in shame. Yes in shame for supporting a president who would throw four good American lives away and excuse his actions and that of his administration with lies and subterfuge.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
“Jay offers his readers but two options, as if to say there could be no more and thus insulting the intelligence of all but his mind-numbed sycophants.”
True. But his groupthink sycophants like it that way- not having to think is easy. Easy is good.
Peace
October 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
The president has more important things to do than get involved in protecting the lives of white Americans in Libya … or providing answers to questions about the murder of a white border guard with weapons the administration sold to the Mexican drug cartels. He saves his actions for important things such as the assertion that Cambridge police officers “…acted stupidly” for detaining that black university professor, or to comment on the shooting of that black teenager in Florida. I think there is a pattern emerging here.
nobodyyouknow
October 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
From what I understand from all the reporting on that situation those diplomats were very worried and concerned about the things they heard weeks before. They had asked for additional security weeks before but got no response. It would not matter who was in the Whitehouse. In a bad situation like that whoever is the President is going to get the blame, If Bush had been President the Dems. would be all over him, and everybody knows its true.
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Glad to provide some jocularity, Kamchuk, but when people stop seeking the truth because it doesn’t fit their personal politics, it’s not a laughing matter.
I have voted Dem and Rep and I, like many other honest people on this blog, want and deserve answers. You’re blinded by ideology. That’s sad. Just watch the special Baier did. You will see it was clearly not a biased report.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Thulsa @ 9:24
I guess those “kook” lefties would be two peas in a pod with many right leaning bloggers who basically tout all stations not named FOX as liberal media, huh?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
“I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……………”
Fred,
Were you that hamburglar guy?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
If Bush had been President…
Who is this “Bush” that you speak of?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
“Were you that hamburglar guy?”
Nope just hamburger.
GOP Voter
October 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
Option 3: Romney has this one in the bag. Run out the clock without requiring the intellectually inept five percent of remaining undecideds to figure out what Libya is.
nobodyyouknow
October 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
So true peace, he also has to get his appointments set for the ladies on the view, and the Letterman show. They are his biggest fans. After he leaves the Whitehouse in January he needs to get a job on the view. He can sit there and GRIN while those airheads tell him how sexy he is.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Recon: You libs should hang your heads in shame. Yes in shame for supporting a president who would throw four good American lives away and excuse his actions and that of his administration with lies and subterfuge
While you supported Bush and Cheney who lied and how many Americans died. You are a poor excuse for a poster to be telling others to hang their heads in shame based on the silly lies you are spreading and for your shameful exploitation of 4 dead Americans for your nonsense. Disgusting.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Just out of curiosity where’s soothsayer?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
That’s sad.
Ah yes. The passive/aggressive guilt trip aboard the shame train.
Your sadness is your own responsibility, so don’t try to assign that to me.
Been there, done that, sport.
Professionals better than you keep trying to play that card on me.
Just watch the special Baier did.
Can’t I just drive red-hot railroad spikes in my eyes instead?
td
October 29th, 2012
9:34 pm
This is all one needs to know about the massacre of American’s and the response from Obama:
Last night on Geraldo at Large, Charles Woods, the father of murdered Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, sent this message to Barack Obama:
“It’s better to die a hero than live a coward.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
“Ride to the sound of the guns !”
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred,
That response is beyond pathetic.
“I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……”
Really? You think if you don’t have a degree in journalism that you can’t be a real journalist? The fact he doesn’t have a degree in journalism is probably what makes him a better journalist. Your response sounds like the ivory tower mentality that has permeated and destroyed the integrity of journalism. Face it, Fred, you guys are freaking out and you have no answers. Just criticize and demean.
Brett Baier is a reporter. Sarah Palin, when on FNC, was never claiming to be a reporter. Do you understand the difference between reporting and commentating? Guess not.
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred? Silence on Obama’s extensive military experience? It’s deafening.
John
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Obama is lying over an event in which 4 people are dead. What’s despicable is not only that he is lying for purely political reasons, but that you, Bookman, are defending this egomaniac simply because you support his liberal views. I can’t think of a more dishonorable act.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
they both suck,
They are decidedly liberal. I don’t think there is much question about that. Peter Jennings isn’t that bad but Dianne Sawyer is unabashed about it. As is Terry Moran at ABC.
CBS still has the Dan Rather leftist mentality and of the 3 networks NBC is the farthest left. Its not nearly as in your face left as say Hannity at Fox or other Fox personalities. They’re much more subtle about it.
The bias is more in choosing what stories to run and what stories to lead with and which stories don’t even get play. That’s where the bias comes in.
For example when news broke of Romney supposedly bullying a kid 47 years ago that was the lead story on ABC that night. Seriously? An alleged bullying incident from 47 years ago is a lead story on prime time news? And on the Benghazi cover up the main stream media largely ignored the whole story until they had no choice but to start following it- albeit reluctantly.
lbp
October 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
You LIE!
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:37 pm
Yeah sure dumb butt…Iraq as well as the world is free of a ruthless dictator who would have been a lot further along than Iran in developing nuclear weapons. What sheer left wing stupidity.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
Thulsa
Ok buddy
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, sent this message to Barack Obama:
“It’s better to die a hero than live a coward.”
drudgey spam.
Ahem
October 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
I didn’t understand what point you were attempting to make. Even if Romney has been getting briefed, my point is the same as stated. Putting it simply, Romney is a savvy guy and a decent guy as well. The peeps appreciate these traits and will reward Mitt with the job.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
Ftroop stupidity…. to the rear, march.
Ricky
October 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
It does not matter about what happened during the attack, The failure was not having the security there in the fist place.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Just out of curiosity where’s soothsayer?
One of sooth’s conspiracy theories turned out to be true. And so then the men in black showed up at his house and he hasn’t been seen since.
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
Kamchuk:
“Can’t I just drive red-hot railroad spikes in my eyes instead?”
That may be easier for you than facing the facts.
Pizzaman
October 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
tulsa doom @ 8:47, met Gen. Ham on July 8, 2012 as a guest of the ACMC. We had a long conversation about the Army and my step-son who is an Army Master Sergeant under Gen. Ham’s command. It doesn’t take one long to assess the character of our senior Military leaders.
Joseph@ 8:53, watched the video till I saw it was Fox then disregard it completely. BTW: it’s LtCol Whatshisface. not Lt. Big, Big, Big difference.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Just A Grunt
October 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
Pannetta’s claims about not wanting to go in without all the intel sure didn’t prevent us from going into Grenada, Panama, Somalia, or a dozen other operations. I could go on and on but for those of us with experience in such things his explanation doesn’t pass the smell test
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It passes my smell test. We didn’t jump into Grenada Panama, OR Somalia within 30 minutes of a first report. If you really ARE a super duper paratrooper who’s put your knees to the breeze at 1200 (actually 750 for a combat drop) then you would know this as well.
How much time did you spend at Vicenza? When I was there the 173rd hadn’t been reactivated. I wonder how much it has changed……
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Charles Woods sent a
B
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M
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to Obama.
td
October 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, sent this message to Barack Obama:
“It’s better to die a hero than live a coward.”
drudgey spam.
Go watch the actual video or are you a COWARD? BTW: let me know if you need some help with those spikes.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
“A truism worthy of note: . . . Do not fear the enemy,
for they can take only your life.
Fear the media,
for they will distort your grasp of reality and destroy your honor.”
Joe Kelly
October 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
Substitute “Bush” for “Obama” and you would be leading the charge Bookman you partisan hack.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:42 pm
That may be easier for you than facing the facts.
Easier finding a virgin in a wh0rehouse than facts on FoxNews.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
Ahem
You don’t know what Romney knows or doesn’t know.
It could be your fantasy and “bombshell”, if you will, or he may know that the right is hyping it up and nothing is going to come of it.
YOU DO NOT KNOW. Nor do I. That’s why you have read very little from me on this issue in regards to blame or exonerating anyone.
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
‘Fear the media,
for they will distort your grasp of reality and destroy your honor.”’
From a Fox viewer, no doubt…oh, the irony…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight !
“Ftroop stupidity…. to the rear, march.”
Very fitting for you.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
Please Fred. Regale me with tales of Obama’s extensive military service and his countless daring tales of clandestine combat missions. Please post his medals that he has earned.
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Why? He’s not the asshat claiming from behind a talk radio microphone a bunch of lies. Your drug addled Gods are. Don’t change the subject. Stay on point.
Down in Quitman
October 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
Option Three: Romney, in light of massive and continued legacy media conspiracy to protect Obama, decided to not spend limited political and communications capital on doing the media’s job. But… after the election, there will be a reckoning… for Obama and for his slavish media cronies. Bankruptcy awaits the legacy media as the price for their irrelevance and dishonor.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
Doom,
Do you think he’s being water boarded or forced to write I’m a stupid truther 10,000 times on a screeching black board.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
Pizzaman,
That I believe. But meeting the man once and having a good conversation with him doesn’t mean you know him personally. It just means you met him once, had a good conversation with him, and a favorable impression. And I’m sure he probably is a very good man as most of our military officers tend to be.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
John @ 9:35
“Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Obama is lying over an event in which 4 people are dead. What’s despicable is not only that he is lying for purely political reasons, but that you, Bookman, are defending this egomaniac simply because you support his liberal views. I can’t think of a more dishonorable act.”
Very eloquently stated. Thank you.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
BTW: let me know if you need some help with those spikes.
BTW: Let me know when gas hits $6 a gallon.
Is it still gonna happen by election day as you predicted?
td
October 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:44 pm
BTW: let me know if you need some help with those spikes.
BTW: Let me know when gas hits $6 a gallon.
Is it still gonna happen by election day as you predicted?
Go back and find where I made that prediction? You might have to remove those Obama spikes out of your eyes to find it.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
td,
I’ve a feeling that Charles Woods would beyotch slap a punk into next week.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
More bad news for the Obama Regime…
**GALLUP SHOCK** ROMNEY UP 52-45% AMONG EARLY VOTERS
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/29/Gallup-Shock-Romney-Up-7-with-early-voters
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
Go back and find where I made that prediction?
It was the night of this year’s State of the Union address, sport.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
It’s a shame Obama wasn’t keep up to speed on Benghazi as he has been on Sandy.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred? Silence on Obama’s extensive military experience? It’s deafening.
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Geez Louise son, be patient. It’s my birthday and I was opening my presents. Your diversions, evasions, and goal post moving are secondary.
I’ll answer about Obama when you can tell be the strategic value of the Yak dung production in Kabul.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:50 pm
Uh oh ! I saw “sport” !
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:50 pm
You’re right Fred. The subject is Obama’s failure to protect our people brave enough to serve us in a hell hole. Besides, you’re the one who brought Rush into this.
Mrnumbersman
October 29th, 2012
9:50 pm
Maybe another alternative as to why Mitt Romney hasn’t jumped onto this bandwagon is that there is already enough there to create doubt among voters. Look at it like free campaign ads for the Romney camp. All of the benefits and none of the cost.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
John
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Obama is lying over an event in which 4 people are dead. What’s despicable is not only that he is lying for purely political reasons, but that you, Bookman, are defending this egomaniac simply because you support his liberal views. I can’t think of a more dishonorable act.
THANK YOU!
Sally
October 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
I don’t know what he did that night. But what I do know is that he clearly tried to hide something by immediately telling lies to the American public about what happened that night. That alone is enough to disqualify him as a leader of this country.
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
When…yes, WHEN this Benghazi crapstorm subsides, the facts are fully known and it turns out to be exactly what the President has said…then what?
Will you acknowledge you were wrong and question the sources that fed you this crap…or will you step right back up and beg for another manure sandwich?
My guess is the latter…
DBCOOPER
October 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
Our Ambassador is assasinated and the Air Force brat thinks it’s right-wing hysteria? Typical Lib.
1) Sigonela, Italy Air Base is roughly 450 miles away and we let a fire fight go on for over 7 hours with no reaction?
Our president refuses to admit who is resposible even though he knows who it is. And refuses to answer questions or let the American public know the truth.
2) We can’t get a straight answer from the POTUS ? But all he did was run around and brag about Osama Bin Laden.
3) He sent out all his stupid political hacks to blame the deaths on some youtube film nobody including the Libyans had even seen?
4) Hilary Clinton then tries to deflect attention away from the POTUS by taking the blame.
5) When the bodies are brought home she even tells the victims family we’re going to get the person that made the video?
6) The person that made the film is paraded in front of the camera for charges unrelated to the video. This film of him being arrested is played in many countries. To supposedly show Obama’s strenghth?
7) American media ignores the story even though our Ambassador is murdered. First time in over 30 years. To protect a political figure.
Now the little Air Force Brat ,Bookman thinks it’s a right wing made up story? Hilarious and Sad
Hey Jay ‘Turn out the Lights. The party’s over” . The Fat Lady’s warming up
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
What will happen in the streets should Obama lose the election as it appears he very well may? Will the OWS crowd go home peacefully or will we see rioting in the streets?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
Recon,
I think they probably kept him alive and sent him to a remote outpost in a foreign country to keep him from exposing “the truth”. My guess is that they got him picking coffee beans with Juan Valdez somewhere in Colombia. Or coca leaves if that’s what Juan is really up to these days.
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
‘Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Obama is lying over an event in which 4 people are dead. ‘
Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Bush lied lied over an event in which over 4,000 people died…and nary a peep from the dipwads that are apocalyptic about Benghazi.
You partisan hacks squandered any credibility a long time ago…
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
” the facts are fully known and it turns out to be exactly what the President has said…then what?”
And what are the facts? That they blamed a freaking video for the first couple of weeks? How is that gonna change?
Marc
October 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
Jay you have finally stepped over the line with your blind following of Obama. You have no integrity.
There were multiple request by Ambassador Stevens for additional protection.
PLEASE don’t talk about the budget cuts being part of the problem because they had no effect on defense of the embassies. Also check out how much this administration spent during the same period spent on supply embassies in Europe with Volts and charging stations.
There was no protest per the Stevens.
The gun ship could have easily been over target in time to help!
There were three request for permission to help and each time they were told to stand down.
There are men dead and all you and the rest of the mindless Obama cultist can do is cover his a$$. This is shameful. There should be away to hold propagandist like you culpable for what Obama has done to this country will you all turn a blind eye.
While I am it why haven’t you blogged about the tell all book about Joe Biden and his brother?
This is far from responsible journalism.
obama
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
If the polls tighten and they get real close, then I don’t — it was a legitimate question somebody asked because these people, if they’re told, these rabid leftists, if they are told this a slam dunk and it’s over, and Romney wins this thing, it could get bloody out there.
El Rushbo violence porn.
Old Goober
October 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
General Carter Ham is pushing 61. He had several years of service as an enlisted man before becoming an officer—in short, he was a mustang. He is nearing mandatory retirement age—64 or 40 years of service, whichever comes first. If he was fired, he most certainly would not be retained as Commander, U.S. Africa Command, pending confirmation of his replacement. That is not the practice of the Department of Defense—see Secretary Gates’ firing of the commander of forces in Afghanistan, a firing that took effect immediately.
I am aware that some people are desperate for a political story here, but there is none.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
Doom, certainly plausible possibilities.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
Good grief. They were bringing up W earlier as if that has a damn thing to do with the Bengazhi mess or the price of tea in China for that matter. And now they’re bringing up freaking Nixon from 40 years ago. Geez.
td
October 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
Go back and find where I made that prediction?
It was the night of this year’s State of the Union address, sport.
Then it should be easy for you to find it and to prove me wrong? Right? Or could this be just another Obama led LIE?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:50 pm
You’re right Fred. The subject is Obama’s failure to protect our people brave enough to serve us in a hell hole. Besides, you’re the one who brought Rush into this.
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Of course I brought Rush into this. It’s his poutrage that you are perpetuating. I’m bringing you to the TRUTH. and the TRUTH is that a bunch of politically motivated asshats without a seconds time in the military are stirring up a bunch of idiots on a non issue.
If that’s what floats ypur boat then cool. Float away. I myself prefer to get MY information from experts.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
Recon,
Juan knows the terrain in those mountains well. He’ll watch out for Sooth.
RF
October 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
“Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in.”
Well, it’s official now. They’re rewriting history as we speak. Watergate was more than just a itty-bitty teenage stunt for kicks. Maybe we should just write it all down on Glenn’s chalkboard so you guys can erase and rewrite as you go.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Old Goober, “mustang” you must be former Marine Corps…Semper Fi
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
While I am it why haven’t you blogged about the tell all book about Joe Biden and his brother?
While I am it why haven’t you gone to blogspot.com?
While I am it why haven’t you created you own blog where you can choose the topic you wish to whine about?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
td,
I’ve a feeling that Charles Woods would beyotch slap a punk into next week.
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Why? Sounds to me like he’s a whiny little girl. Tell me the difference between this asshat and Cindy Sheehan?
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Fox News has their viewers all riled up, that’s for sure. A buddy who watches Fox because his wife won’t allow any other “news” in their home has mentioned it 3 times in the past week. It was a tragedy but there is no bigger story there. And Fox? They’re simply preaching to the choir.
Meanwhile a Southern Baptist minister was beaten to death by some guy wielding an electric guitar earlier today. Ohhhh strummin’ my pain with his Fender…………….
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
DBCOOPER:
You may be right but I thought he was an “Army Brat” ??
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
‘And what are the facts?’
I said WHEN they are known…as in those things that none of the apocalyptic dumbshiites have but are calling for impeachment nonetheless…those partisan hacks that couldn’t give a fat rats butt about the 4 people that are dead (as demonstrated by their silence in thousands of soldiers killed) and care only about a possible opportunity to justify their preexisting hatred for our President…people like you…
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
“What will happen in the streets should Obama lose the election as it appears he very well may?”
I still think Obama wins but the latest poll I saw today had them tied at 49 each in Ohio. Obama has to have Ohio. He can’t win without it. But if he is only tied at 49 in the polls in Ohio than Romney wins. Greater voter enthusiasm and the fact that undecideds typically break 2-1 for the challenger means its over if that poll is accurate and it holds.
ragnar danneskjold
October 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Silly essay, premised on typically faulty-leftist logic. While Obamaniacs, including the head maniac, have no reservations about throwing mud, Mr. Romney does not need to do so – res ipsa loquitur. For the woefully uninformed, i.e., most leftists, there are three “Benghazi” scandals.
(1) Failure to protect the human assets. As accurately described, the allegation of willful inactivity by the administration during the terrorist attacks. There are two sets of military thinking, one accurately described by our host. The second set, which is prevalent among 80% of the military, is that you get a team there. The administration has been coy about whether there was at least one surveillance drone at the site showing the fight in real time; such drones are not deployed on a moment’s notice, and not without a purpose. The implicit suggestion that such a drone was there by coincidence is more than even a leftist koolaid drinker than absorb.
(2) YouTube lies. More significantly, the administration knew before the end of the firefight, or should have known, that the Benghazi attack was different from the “uprisings” throughout the middle east. (By the way, is everyone here aware that the 9/11/12 Yemen attacks had the indicia of planning found in Benghazi?) I posted on the Bookman blog that next day that the attacks were “different” form those in Egypt and elsewhere. The YouTube story – that a video with 1000 hits from three months earlier – was preposterous from day one. Anyone with half a brain would know that thousands of Egyptians chanting “we are all bin Ladens” probably were reacting to something other than a video they had never seen. The rational mind allows for the possibility that the inflammation was the democrat convention one week earlier, where democrat after democrat crowed about the death of bin Laden. Maybe, just maybe, on 9/11 crazed Islamists inflamed by indecorous democrat behavior, decided to protest.
I do not allege that Benghazi was part of that motivation. The extent of planning in Benghazi and Yemen shows that those actions had been in the works for an extended period, probably since the death of bin Laden.
The president was unable to tell Americans the truth because (1) voters would not reward him for democrats spiking the football in a way that got a career Ambassador killed (which was a likely, if wrong perception); (2) every campaign stop before Benghazi featured the claim that al Qaeda had been decimated, and Benghazi and Yemen disprove the claim persuasively.
(3) The Failure of the “Apology Tour.” The riots throughout all of Arabia – notably excepting Iraq – prove the failure of the president’s foreign policy initiative, which we conservatives derisively call “the apology tour.” Far from creating a basis for dialogue, the president has projected weakness to the world, and the weak leader is rarely rewarded in the Middle East culture. Obama is not loved there, and neither is the US. There were no such riots in Arabia when the despised Bush fil landed American troops in Iraq, to dispatch a tyrant. Feckless policy from a feckless administration is the cause of “right wing hysteria.” Leftists elect to not wake up and smell the coffee (Arabica, I think.)
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Meanwhile a Southern Baptist minister was beaten to death by some guy wielding an electric guitar earlier today.
Did they give him a community improvement award?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Fox news kicks azz and azzholes.
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
I don’t call murder of our people by Lybian thugs a non issue. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:04 pm
Marc .. How many folks died while Bush was in office ? How about just in the USA ?
Now tell me about Iraq and Afghanistan ?
You are talking about grapes and watermelons.
Please also tell me about the individual rights citizens have lost since Bush was in office ?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Fred,
The difference is that Sheehan’s son died in a war. Whether or not the war was necessary is certainly debatable. But in the view of Woods his son died unnecessarily because of rank incompetence. That is the difference.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Hey Fred
Starting to get some light snow.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Doom, It’s too close but my gut tells me it will be a Romney win. Nothing else to base it on but a feeling.
td
October 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
td,
I’ve a feeling that Charles Woods would beyotch slap a punk into next week.
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Why? Sounds to me like he’s a whiny little girl. Tell me the difference between this asshat and Cindy Sheehan?
You comparing the father of a fallen HERO to Cindy Sheehan? I think you can look in the mirror and see the definition of an “asshat”.
skyking239
October 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Ty Wood’s father and siblings were just on FNC Hannity. If portions of that interview get any airing at all not only will the “Empty Chair” be toast. He or who ever made the bone head decision to order the stand-down will be pilloried first by congress and then by the courts. What Mr. Woods said and how he said it was powerfully moving and emotional. Any American mother who sees it will be our for revenge against Obama and his America hating regime.
USA Patriot
October 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Enter your comments here
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Fear the media,
for they will distort your grasp of reality and destroy your honor.”
Yes watch FOX News and listen to Rush !
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”
Left-wing insouciance over Benghazi starves the truth.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
“Did they give him a community improvement award?”
Not good Fred. You just confirmed what a lot of cons think about liberals. That ya’ll are Christian bashers and haters.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Peter:
Then you meant “right-wing media” not “media”.
Just sayin’
USA Patriot
October 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Peter – Wow! Good argument! Now, when you’re done going tinkle, wipe, stand up, and flush.
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
‘Obama and his America hating regime.’
And there you have the mentality of todays con. Simple minded and led around by the nose by Fox…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Isn’t Obama about due another Nobel Peace Prize or something ?
cloudodust
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
It ain’t a fair fight getting out the truth in today’s media. A small faction of Right wing truth speakers vs thousands of media types that wish to change the country through a puppet president. The libs do have the upper hand attracting the stupid people…And putting words into childrens mouths and calling it a political ad. Nauseating stuff. Imagine if the Right pulled a lowlife stunt like that..! ‘Course they ain’t that low and dumb.
Old Goober
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Old Goober, “mustang” you must be former Marine Corps…Semper Fi
Yep. Probably while you were still filling up your diaper—the Old Corps.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
DBCOOPER .. Just say it….. we need more Wars…come on now tell us how important it is for us to rush the troops in. We can afford it….. we need to kick some butt.
Because…… deficits don’t matter….and spending money ion War is the Republican way !
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Recon,
We’ll see. Its not the end of the world either way and I’m on record as kinda wanting Obama to win. I figure if he had another 4 years that he would continue to ruin the country to a point that the results would be so bad that even libs would acknowledge the failure of liberal policies and that we wouldn’t have any more of this liberal kookery for another 20 years after that.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
I don’t call murder of our people by Lybian thugs a non issue. Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.
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Yeah and anyone who’s not a far right wing fanatical rush limbaugh butt licking, Koolaid drinking, druggie worshipping neophyte is a “librul” right?
I’ve dealt with Ambassadors before. You can TELL them not to do something stupid, but you’re just a dumb ass, hairy backed, slope headed, Neanderthal. If you were smart like him you would have gone to George Washington U not SWS. Sometimes they pay for their stupidity. Sometimes OTHERS pay for their stupidity as well. He should have never left Tripoli.
And THAT makes me a “librul”? Well bite my “librul” ass then if that’s the case. The REAL problem is you asshats MAKING this a “political” issue rather than a strategic issue. But then you lack the brains to think strategically, a fact the talk radio/Fox news crowd depend on.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
‘Bush and his America hating regime.’
And there you have the mentality of todays lib. Simple minded and led around by the nose by MSNBC…
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801. is there a Nobel WAR Prize ?
You know you want a Republican to win that don’t you ?
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
‘Isn’t Obama about due another Nobel Peace Prize or something ?’
That’s coming in 2016…after his second term…
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
Kam, I hope you get your Irish butt snowed in, but having said that, take care. The weather in the mountains can be tricky.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
It ain’t a fair fight getting out the truth in today’s media.
Talk-radio has existed at least since the 70s.
Geez…
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
You comparing the father of a fallen HERO to Cindy Sheehan? I think you can look in the mirror and see the definition of an “asshat”.
Really asshat? Why? Cindy Sheehan was the MOTHER OF A FALLEN HERO. So what? Both are whiners and NEITHER has the courage and honor of their sons.
Where were your drops td? You can talk sht to me when you’ve carried YOUR wounded and dead off the battle field. Otherwise, STFU you poser.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Isn’t Obama about due another Nobel Peace Prize or something ?
I think he’s due to be knighted by the queen. I think you have to be a citizen of the empire but in Obama’s case they are willing to make an exception.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
Old Goober:
What color were the button on your dress green blouse ?
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801 Come on now.bush wasn’t that smart….a C minus student…
Please tell it to us correctly…..the Cheney gang…..you know the same guys selling cocaine during the Reagen administration.
td
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
**GALLUP SHOCK** Romney Up 52-45% Among Early Voters
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/29/Gallup-Shock-Romney-Up-7-with-early-voters
ragnar danneskjold
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
A truly comic line from the administration: “State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty” As if destruction of an American consulate has anything to do with “Libyan sovereignty.” That is the definition of “leading from behind,” the same place they pull out their explanations.
Lord Help Us
October 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
‘‘Bush and his America hating regime.’
And there you have the mentality of todays lib. Simple minded and led around by the nose by MSNBC…’
Sure, but nobody here has said that…as indicated by the whole Benghazi ’scandal,’ partisan hacks make stuff up, serve it, and simple minded people swallow…
You sir are a swallower…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Excuse me: “buttons”
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Not good Fred. You just confirmed what a lot of cons think about liberals. That ya’ll are Christian bashers and haters.
Southern Baptists aren’t Christians. They are Southern Baptists. Jesus would NOT be welcome in their church. They are the modern day Pharasees and Sadduces. And you know what Jesus had to say about THEM…….. “You snakes, you pit of vipers”……….
Besides, I’m not a liberal goofy.
cloudodust
October 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
BEST QUOTE OF THE DECADE- from CZECH REPUBLIC OBSERVER……”The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.”
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801. is there a Nobel WAR Prize ?
You know you want a Republican to win that don’t you ?- Peter
Sorry Peter but Obama has wrapped that one up with his drone bombing of civilian villages in Pakistan.
woodman
October 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
option 3 Romney isn’t saying anything because a public that is not informed by the news media might view any comments made by him to be dirty politics. i don’t think its right wing hysteria. if obama was a republican the mainstream media would be all over this. they might have even covered if not for the election, but with the presidency up for grabs, they can’t risk informing the voters of what a terrible excuse for a leader Barack Hussein Obama really is.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Why? Sounds to me like he’s a whiny little girl. Tell me the difference between this asshat and Cindy Sheehan
If you are referencing Charles Woods, then, you have confirmed to me that you are absolutely devoid of the ability to humanly reason. If you have listened to this man and his family (quite frankly he is much more composed than I could ever expect to be) and come away with a nickname of “asshat” then you are hopeless. This man has experienced one of the most devastating losses that a father can have and he has the right to express his beliefs, concerns and emotions. Afterall, his son dedicated his life to protecting that right. You owe your ability to come on here and maliciously defame a man you’ve never met in your life to good men like his dead son. He has a very real suspicion that his son was betrayed both in life and continues to be betrayed after his death. For you or anyone to call him an “asshat” is about as reprehensible a reaction as I can imagine.
Please spare me the “Cindy Sheehan” comparison. She has the same rights to react the way she does.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
I don’t call murder of our people by Lybian thugs a non issue.
Of course not and as we try to rule the world and place an out post in every country………… a few deaths here and there barely matter..unless you can rile up the public into believing we need another WAR !
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
The difference is that Sheehan’s son died in a war. Whether or not the war was necessary is certainly debatable. But in the view of Woods his son died unnecessarily because of rank incompetence. That is the difference.
Nope. Combat duty is combat duty. Although “dignitary protection” is especially crappy duty.
Oh wait, this guy wasn’t military anymore was he? He was a mercenary right?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
“A truly comic line from the administration: “State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty” As if destruction of an American consulate has anything to do with “Libyan sovereignty.” That is the definition of “leading from behind,” the same place they pull out their explanations.”
Ah ……………. wasn’t there something about VIOLATING PAKISTAN’S SOVEREIGNTY to get Bin Laden ???
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Fred:
Were you DPS at one time?
ragnar danneskjold
October 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Dear Fred @ 10:11, you and I disagree on much, but your analysis of the prickly personality in the careerists at State is dead on, my compliments.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
“Southern Baptists aren’t Christians”
Dang Fred. You’re pretty hard core on those folks. Weren’t Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Southern Baptists?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
Fred:
What about John the “Baptist” ………..
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Thulsa Doom of course………..and Romney said he would do the exact same thong.but I guess you want American Boys in there to die instead correct ?
Makes sense kill Americans…great choice ! Plus heck we have all this money hanging around doing nothing, and the Republican mantra is …… deficits don’t matter.
Heck I am with you !
cloudodust
October 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Kam-Sport : Didn’t the printed press preceed talk radio by a few years..? Ahh, the good ol’ days and Sam Adams. Now there was a patriot who printed truth…Today, not so.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:20 pm
Scout @ 10:16,
Oh noes. You done went and clobbered them with the hypocrisy stick. Their silence will be deafening on that point. Would sure like to see Jay try and wiggle out of that one with whatever semantics dance he would come up with. Kinda like his semantics dance about the consulate attack not being a terrorist attack.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
“Southern Baptists aren’t Christians”
Dang Fred. You’re pretty hard core on those folks. Weren’t Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton Southern Baptists?
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Thanks for providing evidense to bolster my argument.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Be Proud Republican’s Romney just flip flopped yet again !
At a GOP primary debate in June 2011, Romney, when asked about FEMA’s budget woes and how he would deal with it, had said, “Every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better.”
During that debate, the moderator, CNN’s John King, had gone on to ask if that included “disaster relief.” Romney suggested it did.
Today after the SUPER STORM ….Romney changed his mind……Gosh who would have thought ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Thulsa:
…………….
peggy
October 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
jay, get your head out of your a##, and see this for what it is. our american citizens were under attack, and our government did nothing to help them. i am a liberal and was going to vote for obama, but not after this disastrous mishandling! and i think a lot of people will feel the same way.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Peter,
I didn’t say that. I didn’t even say that I disagree with Obama’s policy on drone bombing in Pakistan. In fact I agree with his drone strikes and I think Obama has done a good job in that regard. I’m just making light of his Nobel peace prize is all and the irony of him getting the prize and then proceeding with drone strikes on civilian villages.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Were you DPS at one time?
not “officially.” We were tasked (more than once) to take an asshat out into the bush where he had no business going so he could “see with his own eyes.”
Luckily the only harm he got was pant full of crap (literally) and none of us got seriously hurt.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
Fred:
What about John the “Baptist” ………..
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He was from the North……….
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Recon,
Aw hell. Fred hates everyone. But that’s just Fred.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Ah ……………. wasn’t there something about VIOLATING PAKISTAN’S SOVEREIGNTY to get Bin Laden ???
Of course there was….. Heck he was America’s enemy # 1 ……. 911 ring a bell ?
BUT invading a country like Iraq for instance…. perfectly Ok with the Right !
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
i am a liberal and was going to vote for obama…
I had a date with Morgan Fairchild, and we spent the night together at a Holiday Inn Express — yeah, that’s the ticket!
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
ALL HAIL FRED. ALL HAIL FRED. HE’S SEEN IT ALL, KNOWS IT ALL AND HAS DONE IT ALL. He deserves the next Nobel.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Thulsa Doom…….. Well why was he given the peace prize then ?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Yo Scout: Did you get my song last night?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Oh wait, this guy wasn’t military anymore was he? He was a mercenary right?
You are a very sick man.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Doom, I think Fred hates himself.
Pizzaman
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Is there a full moon tonight. I’ve never heard such bull. But the one that said….the media will lie to you (or something like that). Watch fox news and listen to rush. Like they don’t lie. And anyone who just listens to fox and rush only has a problem.
Also I don’t know who said because it’s pure crap but someone said either here or on wingnut that gas would be $6/gal by election day.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
ALL HAIL FRED. ALL HAIL FRED. HE’S SEEN IT ALL, KNOWS IT ALL AND HAS DONE IT ALL. He deserves the next Nobel.
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No need to bow, a simple genuflection as I pass by is sufficient.
ODD OWL
October 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
The murders in Benghazi were a terrorist attack… The President made that fact clear the very next day… So why are the Romney/Ryan Republicans and their ministry of propaganda, Fox Fantasy News attempting to politicize this tragic event ??? Americans must pull together after a terrorist attack… Are the Romney/Ryan Republicans un-American ??? Why do the Republicans seem to know more about the terrorist attack than the CIA, NSA, FBI and other government agencies ??? What do the Republicans know and when did they know it ??? When you shoot into a pack of feral dogs, the one that howl the loudest is usually the one that got hit…
Fox News viewers and Trump believers
October 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Try not to stoke out come Election Day. 4 more years!!!!!
Lol. Lol. Freaking sheep like idiots
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Recon,
Aw hell. Fred hates everyone. But that’s just Fred.
Defend and deflect. Defend and deflect.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Doom, I think Fred hates himself.
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Nope, I just hate liars. Well and Southern Baptists…… and anyone French………. and Yankees………. and Okra. I think that’s about it. Oh hell, and yuppies too. I can’t stand yuppies.
GOP Voter
October 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Democratic pollster Pat Caddell: Obama handling of Banghazi a “disgrace”.
Just sayin’.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:30 pm
Also I don’t know who said because it’s pure crap but someone said either here or on wingnut that gas would be $6/gal by election day.
At least two regular posters here made that prediction on the night of this year’s State of the Union address.
One of them has the stones to admit it, the other is a WATB.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
Peter,
If I remember correctly Obama was given the peace prize either before he even entered office or very shortly after entering office. The prize committee gave it to him based on “potential” which had never been done before to my knowledge. He had achieved absolutely NOTHING to warrant winning the award. In other words they were just enamored of his pretty speeches like a lot of people, they liked his BS, and gave it to him based on this “potential” to make peace. Downright damn laughable the more and more you think about it.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
I’m just making light of his Nobel peace prize is all and the irony of him getting the prize and then proceeding with drone strikes on civilian villages.
Dont’ stop there Doomy lol. Make light of the Nobel on all levels. He got it for…….. being elected? Really? It was to me the final nail in the coffin to show how totally stupid the Nobel Peace prize is.
Gmare
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
Happy Birthday, Fred!
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
“Nope, I just hate liars. ”
Well you made my point.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
You know you want a Republican to win that don’t you ?- Peter
no Thulsa Doom.. i am a fiscal conservative, and i don;t want to continue to waste American resources on the WAR agenda of protecting corporate America’s interest around the world.
I also believe as free people woman have the right to make decisions based on their own body..now some will make bad decisions we all know that……but no man has the right to tell a woman what to do period.
And hey if Cheney could invade Iraq for his purposes then, the facts are we all make mistakes….like in his statement…..deficits don’t matter.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
Obama is starting to channel RICHARD NIXON except Obama has NO accomplishments:
1) Carpet Bombing: Nixon used B-52’s //Obama prefers DRONES
2) COVER-UPS: Nixon lied about a break-in at Watergate//Obama Lied about a Terrorist attack in Benghazi (4 dead Americans) AND has Lied about FAST & FURIOUS (1 dead American/ Many dead Mexicans).
Richard Nixon did the honorable thing and resigned from office…
Comrade Obama is fighting for FOUR MORE YEARS!
OBAMA is a complete disgrace.
Ron
October 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Jay, please follow cynthia…PLEASE!
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
USMC … Didn’t Romney agree with Obama on the drones ?
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
“Oh hell, and yuppies too. I can’t stand yuppies.”
I am quietly pushing my Pinot Noir away from the keyboard.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:35 pm
I can’t say I disagree with Fred on hating the French. Damn whiny ass beyotches they are.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:35 pm
USMC. Bush didn’t protect America we had 911… Cheney invaded Iraq and how many more American boys died ?
Please…..have a drink and calm down with all that Nixon stuff…we all know how paranoid that fellow was…….. thus the break in.
inoj
October 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Jay, you’re woefully misinformed. That you’re ok with Panetta’s explanation that we don’t engage unless we have all the facts…makes you sound like a fool. Tell that to your friends in the military and see what they say. And you call right wingers…what?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
“Nope, I just hate liars. ”
Well you made my point.
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Point out a lie Del. you TALK a bunch of crap, but rarely if ever back any up. Is it just the Oxycontin? You better lay off that crap before you go deaf like your hero Rush…….
td
October 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:30 pm
Also I don’t know who said because it’s pure crap but someone said either here or on wingnut that gas would be $6/gal by election day.
At least two regular posters here made that prediction on the night of this year’s State of the Union address.
One of them has the stones to admit it, the other is a WATB.
So I guess you could not find the actual post I made and then do not have the stones to come and say you were wrong. I guess that makes you an official Obama LIAR.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
inoj . tell us please how we should handle it.
Get Real
October 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
Too bad the mainstream media is ignoring the story for the most part to protect the “chosen one”…..absolutely shameless and ridiculous as we now see a state run media in the US….
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
Look before I leap…
October 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
“Oh hell, and yuppies too. I can’t stand yuppies.”
I am quietly pushing my Pinot Noir away from the keyboard.
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LOL. nice one.
http://www.instantrimshot.com
USMC
October 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
Happy Birthday Fred!
We are all taking up a collection for your Birthday present.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/543707.Way_Things_Ought_to_Be
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
Fred you’re right on target with your assessment of the Southern Baptists. In fact any religious sect in which 1) 75% or more of its members believe the Bible is word-for-word true and 2) 75% or more of its members believe they have been forgiven for all transgressions past and future, and have a free pass to paradise, due to the fact that they are born-again…….these sects are accurately called cults.
Ergo the Sothern Baptist sect, as well as the Pentecostals and the Assembly of God, are all cults.
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
Not a genuflection Fred, just a tip of my visor.
ODD OWL
October 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
The Romney/Ryan are having big time problems with those human moral attributes called honest, trust, integrity and character… No matter how you measure them, they come up short on each attribute… They have strange behavior patterns…
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Romney made his money out sourcing…..can someone tell me why he is the job creator ?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Fred @ 10:23
We disagree politically but I hear you and know the type.
P.S. I didn’t get the song. Send again.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
“deficits don’t matter.”
Peter,
That’s probably the most taken out of context BS phrase on this blog. The idea behind the Laffer curve is that deficits do not matter “in the short term” because longer term tax revenues grow to replace and exceed revenue lost in the short term. Whether or not that is true we can argue about till the cows come home. But that bumper stick sloganeering about “deficits don’t matter” is indicative of economic ignorance.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
Doom,
I was in Cannes and Villa France before the Gulf of Tonkin. The French girls were all over us and there were foxes in the mix. After the Gulf of Tonkin was announced the French townsman and even those girls spit when they saw us. Didn’t matter we all went to Vietnam anyway.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
Thanks Gmare. Thanks USMC.
USMC: Did you check out the shot of the day link I posted earlier? Thanks for the “book dedication’ but I got this book instead today:
http://www.amazon.com/Fire-My-Belly-Real-Cooking/dp/1449411436
I hope it has a good pork belly recipe in it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
lefty_316:
“You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’”
John 3:7
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
Not a genuflection Fred, just a tip of my visor.
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Noted and accepted
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
@Thulsa
“Obama has to have Ohio. He can’t win without it.”
I disagree. Obama’s path to 270 is easier than Romney’s absent an OH win.
Romney wins OH – and assuming Obama takes PA, WI and MI, Romney MUST win FL and has 10 other winning combinations.
If Obama loses OH, he does NOT need FL and has 13 winning combinations.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
Folks the great Noah’s Ark is a space ship.. after a few blow this earth up for the masses the exodus will be on for the super rich to get away……Why do you think privatized space travel is in full swing ?
Keep voting Republican……. maybe your great grand kids will have to deal with that after we are all dead for a few hundred years or sooner ?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Scout: It doesn’t make as much sense without the post I typed with it lol (an answer to what we were fussin’ about the other day) but here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bare05gNH88
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
“Romney made his money out sourcing…..can someone tell me why he is the job creator ?”
Nope. I called out Debbiedowrong on that bogus claim the other day. The best link she could come up with was some protesters from earlier this month protesting against Bain capital that their jobs are about to be outsourced to China. Romney left the company 12 years ago so their whining does not apply to him. And even if you could find some jobs he “outsourced” Target alone has created tens of thousands of jobs. And that is just one company. You got sports authority and many other companies that Romney helped grow.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
Thulsa Doom . Tell me how that deficit is working out then ?
Ok it is….less for the poor.more for the super rich…….more ways to get the masses under your thumb.
Kind of like Religion in the middle ages.
Don’t worry we will all be controlled soon, but hey…….. thank you for helping them along.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
@td
Did you not predict $5/gal?
Michael
October 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Here’s an idea. See if you can get Joh Krakauer to write a book about this matter. His recent effort was about Pat Tillman and his death by friendly fire. He went into how Tillman’s flak jacket and diary were burned and how the army lied to Tillman’s family. Of course,this happened in 2004 and the Bushies were busy swiftboating Kerry.
I think that cover up was handled much better, but they had the weasel Rove in the White House, so they had trained in that activity.
Of course I was in Viet Nam just before 19 VC invaded the embassy compound and held off helicopter support for several hours, so I’m sure the armchair generals here are all better equiped to say what should have been done at the consulate in Benghazi.
By the way the military makes recommendations to the commander in chief. It doesn’t go the other way around.
Romney doesn’t mention Benghazi, because Obama wiped the floor with him in the second debate on that issue. Also, the FBI is now in control of one of the leaders. Obama can put this to rest by letting the drones take out a house in Benghazi – any house – and say it was the terrorists. That’s what Bush would have done, and Romney has the same advisors.
Dr. Socrates
October 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Well, it didn’t take too long for the left-wing nut (our own Bookie) to respond to the right-wing nuts at Fox News. Kinda funny, really. It is this kind of meaningless debate that explains the dire situation this great country is in today. Rather than focusing on the big picture of deficits, taxes, imports/exports, trade imbalances and the like, media morons have us focus on individual stories that, once upon a time, wouldn’t even have made the local news, much less risen to unnecessary national attention. I challenge you, Bookie: Stop responding to the people you so deride. Break the chain of idiocy instead of being a link in it.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Romney made his money out sourcing…..can someone tell me why he is the job creator ?
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Have you lost your mind? Look at all the Chinese jobs he created. You don’t think the talk show hosts mean creating AMERICAN jobs when they call all these asshats “job creators” do you? Of course not, they are creating Chinese jobs.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Look before I leap,
In the calculations I’ve seen Florida is gone to Romney. I’ve seen how Romney can win without Ohio though I myself can’t see it. I think he also needs Ohio. But from what I’ve seen Obama has to have Ohio even more than Romney. A lot to look at and it will be interesting to see how it all breaks down.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Thulsa Doom… You are probably right…… Romney and Bain Capitol never had the same philosophy………..for sure !
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
0311/0514: “The clergy believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Thomas Jefferson, September 23, 1800
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Fred,
Can you show all these Chinese jobs that Mitt created. Cause from what I’ve seen companies like Target, sports authority, and many of the others he turned around have mostly American employees.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Fred……. Of course not, they are creating Chinese jobs.
Well for one thing we know Romney is going to tell China a thong or too…..and puff out his chest !
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
0311: “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a clergy-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
Thomas Jefferson, December 6, 1813.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
@Thulsa
Look at 270 to win.
They do a nice job of showing the options once you have picked the states to fall as you see fit.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Well for one thing we know Romney is going to tell China a thong or too…
Chinese girls in thongs?
I could get behind that.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Dr. Socrates…….. I know gosh those are all the same Policy’s the Bush administration was all about.can’t we go back to the good old Bush days ?
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
0311: “The whole history of these Gospels is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.”
Thomas Jefferson, January 24, 1814
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Since we are talking about deficits and debt perhaps an asshat or two can splain to me how running up roughly 5 trillion in debt in 4 years under Obama is better than running up roughly 5 trillion in debt over 8 years under W. Perhaps a “deficits don’t matter” asshat can answer that question.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes……..hey now you are talking a good Geisha girl for every American man.. gosh we deserve it !
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Thulsa Doom I know what you are talking about ……gosh we had this separate War debt, and the deficit… and now we have to put it together, and then there was this almost Depression…..all that fuzzy math.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Bain was a successful company under Romney. Evidently, it still is today and gives a lot of money to the Obama campaign. Why are you far-left libs complaining,
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Fred @ 10:44
Ha! I walked across a street with her once in WDC right after Nam ………. didn’t think a whole lot of her then either but ………… here’s her best one I think:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2W0QZFguDE
stmt
October 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
Guess Jay never heard of Cindy Sheehan
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
lefty_316:
I’ll take Jesus any day over old Tom but as always …………… the choice is yours.
God bless ……………..
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Fred,
Can you show all these Chinese jobs that Mitt created. Cause from what I’ve seen companies like Target, sports authority, and many of the others he turned around have mostly American employees.
+++++++++++++++++
I did this for you the other day. I won’t do it again. Staples was a “success” story. By the 1990’s Bain was raiding companies though. You are smart enough to know this if you choose to research it.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Recon 0311 2533 . Who’s complaining the oil companies, GE, and most Corporate America give to both………so once whom ever wins they can start the control process…..
Peter
October 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
DETROIT – Chrysler said its third-quarter profit rose 80 percent on the strength of new models, less debt and steadily growing sales in both American and international markets.
The third-largest Detroit carmaker said Monday that it earned $381 million in net income, up from $212 million in the same period a year ago. Revenue for the quarter was $15.5 billion, an 18 percent increase from $13.1 billion in the same period last year.
The results could be seen as the latest evidence that Chrysler’s improbable comeback from its government bailout and bankruptcy was not only sustainable, but accelerating.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
Peter, you got that right.
Ayn Rand was Right
October 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
ODD OWL – It is strange to me that you would accuse Romney and Ryan of being liars, but would trust Obama. This need to vilify the side you disagree with, while upholding your man, no matter his actions, demonstrates the problem in this country today. All of us are flawed. I would dare say that Obama has done a lot more lying than the team of Romney and Ryan lately.
lefty_316
October 29th, 2012
11:01 pm
0311 Your mistake is assuming the Bible is word-for-word true, and that God actually said “the only way to me is through my son Jesus Christ.” That is completely inconsistent with the man Jesus was. It is a fabrication concocted by the authors of the New Testament. They also cooked up many other creative falsehoods: Mary was a virgin, Jesus performed miracles, Jesus rose from the dead, etc. Those are all what the great Joseph Priestley called “perversions” of Christianity.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
11:01 pm
Ayn Rand was a drug addled meth head.
Just sayin’.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
11:02 pm
Peter, bankruptcy yes…bailout no. Are they still an American owned car company.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
Recon 0311 2533. And the truth is actually both parties are almost the same…….
Sometime I wonder who is on which team….but they sure use the media to split the country.making the small folk weaker.
I do feel the Republican’s are more the guys wanting the War machine to protect the American Corporations around the world…. more apt to use it.
Ayn Rand was Right
October 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
Kam – even the most addled can be brilliant.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
11:04 pm
Fred,
Yeah. I read your link. And in a very lengthy list of Bain accomplishments there were 2 sentences I think devoted to a Latin American investment group. That doesn’t cut it. The overall success in creating American jobs was substantial. The little bit of beyotching folks can do pales in comparison to the accomplishments of Bain capital under his stewardship.
td
October 29th, 2012
11:05 pm
Look before I leap…
October 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
@td
Did you not predict $5/gal?
No. I did not predict any price. What I said was IF gas was over $4 or $5 per gallon then Obama would not win the election. Some of the leftest can not read and said I predicted those gas prices.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
Chryler Corporation
Bankruptcy and Sale to Fiat
In April 2009, Chrysler filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in the United States. The reorganized company would be partially owned by Italian automaker Fiat as well as the United Auto Workers union upon its emergence from bankruptcy.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:08 pm
Recon 0311 2533 darn Italians own part……bad enough they are about spaghetti and Chianti !
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
Bummer for NY City…. Battery flooded, and the Village……. Subways have become submarines !
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
Interesting.
Lots of new Republican mystery meat bloggers tonight.
But in almost every case it’s the same teenage petulance pent up over four years of whining.
Oh well, opinions are like ________ and lots of ________ are desperately flocking here in the runup to their cowardly candidate’s defeat.
Better luck in 2016, neocons…
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
“I do feel the Republican’s are more the guys wanting the War machine to protect the American Corporations around the world…. more apt to use it.”
I won’t disagree with you on that Peter but why shouldn’t we protect the interests of our people, our companies, and our money.
Now if you were talking also about the military industrial complex I would agree with you on that. Republicans are way to eager to support military spending at all costs. The military and some weapons systems are going to have to be cut just like everything else.
Dum-Bass
October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
I only have one question, Mr. Bookman. If it had been your son killed would you have written this article?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
11:11 pm
The automobile bailouts favored the unions and not the taxpayers. Romney was correct bankruptcy filings with government guarantees would have been the better course.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:14 pm
The military and some weapons systems are going to have to be cut just like everything else.
I wish that was the case but really all in the Romney platform say the opposite that I can tell.
The 2 trillion for new ships was a campaign promise to the state of Virgina….never going to happen.
Patty
October 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
You know, I don’t watch Fox or MSNBC or main stream media, but I do read multiple newspapers including several international newspapers who are reporting on the attack. Reports of a US general coming forward to say that help was asked for but ignored, of the White House being aware of the situation and choosing not to act. Of course, the full story will never be released here in the states–might be too difficult for hacks like you to understand that the citizens of these United States might like the whole truth instead of whatever makes a good sound bite.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
Y’all have a great evening…I’m out, taps
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
I won’t disagree with you on that Peter but why shouldn’t we protect the interests of our people, our companies, and our money.
Well corporate profits are sky rocketing currently…..Corporate cash is at an all time high…..
Too bad they won’t pony up and pay for their own protection around the world……that is the corporate taxes folks talk about.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:17 pm
The automobile bailouts favored the unions and not the taxpayers.
All about jobs……
United Socialist States of Obama
October 29th, 2012
11:18 pm
Communists/Socialists will defend other Communists/Socialists until the very end, no matter what the truth is
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
11:18 pm
Dum-Bass:
“I only have one question, Mr. Bookman. If it had been your son killed would you have written this article?”
Of course he wouldn’t have.
Say a prayer tonight for the folks in the path of the storm !
TAPS !
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
United Socialist States of Obama …. yes and war mongers will protect war mongering to the end.
globeflyer
October 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
Similar to what we had to endure when Bush was in office (only different): “People died, Obama lied”.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
“Too bad they won’t pony up and pay for their own protection around the world……that is the corporate taxes folks talk about.”
They do pony up. Its called taxes and multinationals like Coke, UPS, caterpillar, and on and on pay a crapload of taxes as do their employees.
OedipusTax
October 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
Jay Bookman epitomizes the illness of today’s liberalism. The four dead Americans are just playthings for him. He couldn’t give a damn one way or the other. He will return to his office, feed his huge ego, and continue his feelings of judgment and superiority versus average Americans. That’s just like Obama. Today’s liberals, you see, don’t give a damn about their fellow man. They couldn’t care less about the dead Americans. Ignore them. Trash them. Call them fools. Jay Bookman would dance of their graves without the slightest reservations if it would elect Obama.
ODD OWL
October 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
Ayn Rand… Romney/Ryan are habitual, pathological fibbers… Liars surrender their reality to the people they lie to… Romney/Ryan are sadly, out of touch with reality…
John
October 29th, 2012
11:29 pm
Maybe the president was trying to hold off so he would not kill more of our troops or a bunch of people that were protesting around the embassy .That would just upset many more countries and cause even more blood shed .
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
They do pony up. Its called taxes and multinationals like Coke, UPS, caterpillar, and on and on pay a crapload of taxes as do their employees.
Really ? How about all tax payers……Corporations are getting away with murder.
there would be much less taxes on them, if the US wasn’t putting 40 % of all money collected into the military……. No country in the world spends like we do on the Military complex, thus in allot of other countries the corporate taxes are lower.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
11:32 pm
The four dead Americans are just playthings for him. REALLY OedipusTaxA ?
THAT WAS A REALLY DUMB COMMENT.
When did you lose your empathy for your fellow American ?
OedipusTax
October 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
An honorable Navy Seal fought for seven hours, seven hours, on his own, before he was killed by a mortar while attempting to use a laser to target the mortar. Instead, no missle appeared, and the Navy Seal died. Now if that was Jay Bookman’s son, he might have a diffrerent opinion. Instead, he will call any criticism of that needless death to be “right wing hysteria.” So easy for Jay to pontificate. So easy for Jay to dismiss life so carelessly. What does he care? Military for Hillary and Obama are drivers and butlers, nothing more. They are angry retards to them, and to Jay. So one dies, or a dozen, who cares? They asked for it. And the AJC would rather cover a rap star’s broken toenail before they’ll cover a story that they’d never shut up about if it was Bush. Hypocrisy and Jay Bookman is a redundancy.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
“How about all tax payers……Corporations are getting away with murder.”
Peter,
As we all know 47% of us don’t even pay taxes outside of FICA. And how exactly are corporations getting away with murder? Ya looked at a gallon of gas lately Peter? Oil companies make about an 8% profit margin and that’s it. The govt makes more money off a gallon of gas then the oil companies. Your blanket statement that corps are getting away with murder is nothing short of absurd.
“there would be much less taxes on them, if the US wasn’t putting 40 % of all money collected into the military……. No country in the world spends like we do on the Military complex, thus in allot of other countries the corporate taxes are lower.”
How does 40% of all tax revenue go to the military if the entitlement programs chew up about 60% all by themselves? Can you back up that assertion with a link?
MC
October 29th, 2012
11:50 pm
Jay, you are a freaking moron. American lives were lost and you are trivializing what happened. Stick your head up o’s arse and keep believing that pos!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s see where that gets you. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gmare
October 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
You are welcome, Fred. And now I am out, too. It’s way too scary here tonight.
plcombs
October 29th, 2012
11:52 pm
Its fairly obvious, judging by the above article Mr. Bookman knows pretty much ZERO about Chain of Command or how these decision’s are made, he would do best trying another line of analysis.
First Leon Panetta’s comment “without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” has been torn to shreds by both the State Department and CIA and eyewitnesses and reports from the CIA Station Chief in Libya.
They in fact had Live Video feeds from Camera’s on the ground at both the Consulate and the Safe House, inside and out, they had full visual unarmed drone camera’s over head using a total of two drones during the attack, additionally they had constant uninterrupted radio communications in real time as well with 2 of the four men killed defending the Consulate and Safe house. They also had full communications with the CIA Station Chief.
These feeds were all fed directly to the Situation Room at the WHite House, State Department and CIA simultaneously via the NSA and CIA. Exactly as it was done during the OBL raid in Pakistan. Its standard procedure during an “event”.
Leon Panetta gave the order to “stand down” by all accounts, which means someone gave the “go order” first. If someone gave the “go order” then one or both of the generals mentioned by Mr. Bookman authorized it or someone of equal rank.
Before writing such drivel, I would suggest Mr. Bookman do a little homework
DawgDad
October 30th, 2012
12:22 am
Leave it to Jay Bookman to turn a deadly serious issue into a name-calling feeding frenzy for his left-wing minions. Epically Tucker-esque.
A lot of questions need to be answered about Benghazi and the Administration’s deplorable behavior in the aftermath. I watched Hillary Clinton stand in front of the victims’ coffins at the memorial service and lie to the world. I saw clips of Carney lying to the world, Susan Rice lying, and lying in official proceedings of the U.N. Paneta – who knows at this point?
What about the Embassy security? In the absence of adequate LIBYAN security you have to assume you’re operating in a war zone, right? Well, any sane person would. We’ve had the Iranian hostage crisis in the Carter Presidency, the Marine Barracks in Beirut, Embassy attacks in African nations, the Cole, 9/11, just to name the obvious ones. We are having serious issues with enemy infiltrations in Afghanistan. The Muslim Brotherhood is taking over Egypt, and Muslim extremists are stirring up trouble in neighboring Libya, Syria, and elsewhere. It was the anniversary of 9/11, and the Al-QuadaThe Administration couldn’t have a clearer picture painted for them if it was paint-by-numbers.
Concerns about Libyan sovereignty??? What a joke. We bombed the heck out of them under the guise of NATO and now we probably have drones overhead 24/7. So much for the sovereignty charade.
Something was tragically amiss in Benghazi, whether ideological hubris, gun-running, undercover shenannigans, or outright treachary. Americans and the World deserve answers, not intelligence-insulting lies.
Wendy
October 30th, 2012
12:47 am
There are many unanswered questions about security before this happened, what happened during the attack, and the cover up afterwards, but Obama chooses not to answer them. Why doesn’t he have a press conference instead of going on The View, Letterman Leno, etc. Sounds like he doesn’ like the tough questions. Why wasn’t Ambassador Stevens request for additional security approved? They just wanted Col Woods and his 16 man team to remain in Libya. You would think since the consulate had been attached twice before, and the British Ambassador and Red Cross had been attacked and withdrawn from Libya, this would be a valid request. Does the date 09/11 not mean anything to this President? And of course the big question is why they did not want Tyrone Woods to go and help the Ambassador. If his first request have been approved, Amb Stevens may still be alive. This attack lasted over 7 hours, that seems to be enough time to get some help to the ones at the CIA compound. My god, they had lasers trained on the targets, they could have been shot at from a plane. And then of course, why the heck was this all blamed on a spontaneous reaction to a video for days after when they knew all along this was a planned attack. I think this President did not was to admit terrorism is alive and well. It burns me up that this President cares more about his political career than saving the Americans he is supposed to protect. Call it hysteria if you want, but I want answers.
getalife
October 30th, 2012
12:52 am
Cons are tin foil hat kooks
Dawg Reporter
October 30th, 2012
12:55 am
Nothing more than big media criticizing big media while trying to position the “stories” for political gain for either Obama or Romney.
Let’s move on already….
Ken
October 30th, 2012
1:00 am
Jay, the water is getting heavy for you.
Ken
October 30th, 2012
1:03 am
GALLUP: ROMNEY UP 52%-45% AMONG EARLY VOTERS…
Fred ™
October 30th, 2012
1:12 am
Gee Wendy, it’s considered good manners that when you copy paste something you give credit to who you stole it from…….
The Thin Guy
October 30th, 2012
1:59 am
Despite the best efforts of the lap dog, left wing, lame stream, blatant, mendacious, lunatic propagandists for The Evil Current Regime, Benghazigate is becoming unwrapped faster than Sandra Fluke at a fraternity party. After the murder of the ambassador and three members of his staff The Regime’s first lie is that it was caused by a movie. Lassie Come Home? Ernest Saves Christmas? Fatima Does Medina? After that lie became inoperative we were told that it was a meticulously planned terrorists attack by irate Mooslums who were livid because their cable system doesn’t get the goat porn channel. But The Regime had no idea that there was any danger so ØDumbø played golf. After that lie became inoperative we have learned that he watched it all on live tv and refused help because it would tarnish his image as The Great Peace Maker who eliminated terrorism from the world and the English and Kenyan language. Four Americans were slaughtered to protect Jug Ears’ image. So The Indonesian Imbecile is not just guilty of negligent homicide but premeditated murder. The First Fool is a vile, despicable excuse for a human being and if there were any justice in this life he should be drug from The White House in chains and thrown into the dankest cell in Gitmo with nothing to read but Bookman’s Blog.
Nikki
October 30th, 2012
2:30 am
Hysteria? really? that is what you call it when four Americans are killed one being and Ambassador and answers change on a daily basis and stonewalling occurs. Why don’t you tell the father of the ex Navy Seal to his face that this is hysteria, you ignorant idiot. I’m no longer on the fence about my vote, I guess because I’m a black woman the kool-aid drinkers will call be a traitor. Let it be your child, who was killed and I bet you would be on the White House steps every single day until you got answers. Unbelievable, the media is a joke and journalism is dead.
Richard Loyal French
October 30th, 2012
3:37 am
President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.”
It is becoming increasingly clear that the one responsible.. is OBAMA.
“”But the very fact that the White House and the administration have been reluctant to provide this information (and, indeed, seem to be passing the buck on who did what and when) raises another possibility: that the president was not carrying out his responsibilities as commander in chief. Yet whether distracted by the upcoming election, calls to the Israeli prime minister, or prepping for a fundraiser the next day in Las Vegas, presidents don’t get to delegate that power, even to a secretary of defense. So, the night of September 11 comes down to this: was the president in charge—or not? The Constitution makes it clear, he must be.”" — GARY SCHMITT
If Obama was NOT in-Charge… then Obama trashed his duties and His Oath of Office.
If Obama WAS in-Charge… Obama turned his back on our Navy Seals and our Ambassador… and let them DIE at the hands of our Enemies.
Either Way.. it is Treasonous.
ha
October 30th, 2012
4:42 am
“what about when Bush was president, what about when Bush was president” You whiney liberal twits, all you can do is divert attention to something else. You are a product of your upbringing, no responsibility or accountability. People are trying to find truth and all of you partisan a$$hats are arguing over dead bodies.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
6:01 am
Here’s how Fox News reported the news above
“Report” really isn’t the verb you want there, Jay.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
6:04 am
The main thing to remember about this “scandal” is that there’s an element within conservative politics that can never, ever get enough of scary-muslim stories. It’s some kind of addiction, I think, fueled in no small part by their fundamentalist belief system.
Ol' TImer
October 30th, 2012
6:08 am
Chicken-hawks in government and the right wing media would have done military heroics — except they were to “chicken” to serve in the first place.
You know, I’ve heard more criticism over the unfortunate loss of these four lives than I did over the bombing of the marine barracks in Beirut where 235 marines and sailors lost their lives. Of course, Reagan was in the Oval Office then and he could do no wrong.
As a matter of fact, after the attack on the marine barracks, Reagan did not retaliate saying he could not accurately identify who was responsible — and he got a pass.
And, so it goes. . . . .
Ebird
October 30th, 2012
6:29 am
Jay, nice distraction by focusing on right wing extreme claims. The real question is why was the president going with the “riot based on a video” lie for over a week when he clearly knew otherwise?
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
6:36 am
They in fact had Live Video feeds from Camera’s on the ground at both the Consulate and the Safe House, inside and out, they had full visual unarmed drone camera’s over head using a total of two drones during the attack, additionally they had constant uninterrupted radio communications in real time as well with 2 of the four men killed defending the Consulate and Safe house. They also had full communications with the CIA Station Chief.
These feeds were all fed directly to the Situation Room at the WHite House, State Department and CIA simultaneously via the NSA and CIA. Exactly as it was done during the OBL raid in Pakistan. Its standard procedure during an “event”.
Honey, you need pills and a permanent disconnect from the internet. If you fancy yourself in possession of all this knowledge you have my pity.
Please get help.
Big Dog 89
October 30th, 2012
6:38 am
Perhaps you should read more…
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/29/mccain-obama-might-be-conducting-massive-cover-up-with-libya-attack/
garyk
October 30th, 2012
6:40 am
October 29, 2012, Washington Times: “General Carter F. Ham, the Combatant Commander of Africa Command (AFRICOM) and a key figure in the Benghazi-gate controversy, is leaving the Army. On October 18, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta had announced that General Ham would be succeeded at AFRICOM by General David Rodriguez. Later speculation tied this decision to the fallout from the September 11, 2012 attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.”
garyk
October 30th, 2012
6:44 am
October 30, 2012, New York Post: “Charles Woods is the invisible man. Indeed, the father of former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods — slain this past Sept. 11 while trying to defend Ambassador Chris Stevens and others under terrorist attack at the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya — was nowhere to be seen on the many Sunday morning TV talk shows.”
“As a matter of fact, you’d have been hard put to even hear the word “Benghazi” mentioned at all on those same programs. And when it was, it was invariably raised by Republicans — and just as quickly shot down by most of the allegedly unbiased moderators. “Charlie Woods? Who’s he?”
“But he’s the fellow who’s been asking some pretty pointed questions of this administration about the circumstances surrounding his son’s murder. He doesn’t accept the excuses being offered by everyone from the president on down.”
“Woods’ misfortune is that his son was killed under a Democratic administration. And it’s considered neither polite nor acceptable to question the competence of Democrats — especially this Democrat.”
Fire Them ALL!
October 30th, 2012
6:45 am
“and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty”????? You have got to be kidding me Jay Bookman!!!! Where was the concern for “violating another country’s sovereignty when we went and killed (rightfully so) the SOB Bin Laden – unannounced !!” Quit making this about politics!!! That is what Romney is trying to do. He made his thoughts known that we should never – ever reject the safety of our Americans overseas – AND HE WAS RIGHT!! Now he has moved on and is NOT PERSONALIZING THIS. Look, I voted for Obama – but he does NEED TO BE IMPEACHED!! over this – and Hillary needs to go too!! It is not personal, not political – it just is that they ALL FAILED our precious Americans over there!!
Attacking any U. S. Embassy is considered to be an “act of war.” That is hallowed ground.
#1: We assisted the Libyans in overthrowing their government.
#2: Our Pres & Hillary greatly erred in not “infusing themselves” with knowledge about what was going on over there – or else they did and did not care – I prefer to choose the former. Either way they were STUPID.
#3: Do you think the Libyans guarding the outside of that compound could have been infiltrated???? Of course they could and they were.
#4: We only had FIVE – count them – FIVE security personnel there “guarding” our Ambassador and others. Heck, after assisting to overthrow that government we should have had much more – and yes – PLENTY of our security “on the outside of that compound.”
#5: Ambassador Stephens and others months before this happened pleaded for more security “AND WERE TURNED DOWN!!”
#6: Panetta on up should be fired, IMPEACHED, etc. for this dreadful happening.
#7: How would you like to know that YOUR SON was on a roof top for 7 hours calling for help – NOT GETTING IT – and gave his life defending others for 7 hours to no avail?????
#8: Yes – the British pulled out because the situation in Benghazi was “UNSTABLE.”
WONDER WHERE WE WOULD ALL BE TODAY IF, GOLLY, DURING WORLD WAR II WE NEVER WENT AND ASSISTED OUR SOLDIERS, OR AMERICANS, BECAUSE WE DIDN’T KNOW “EXACTLY” WHAT WAS GOING ON IN EACH AND EVERY SITUATION AND JUST “LET THEM DIE!!!!”
#9: THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON AND DID NOT ASSIST THESE PRECIOUS MEN!!!!
“and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty”????? GO SELL THAT BUNK ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GuyWritingThis
October 30th, 2012
6:48 am
Are these the same military advisors that Obama frequently ignores?
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
6:50 am
Lordy. Jay is right, this is really bringing out the fruitcakes in a froth.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
6:56 am
The behavior of the right wing in this matter is beyond shameful.
Party before country, and it’s sick.
The House GOP outed an undercover CIA operation in Libya – that’s treason.
After the election lets hope President Obama investigates the GOP response.
(and that meth lab full of republican dossiers too!)
marko
October 30th, 2012
7:00 am
Fox News, de facto wing of the republican party seems to be doing it’s best to engineer a pre-election crisis. What a shock.
JH
October 30th, 2012
7:05 am
JAY – Option #3 – just like the chicago political slime machine. Romney will let all the others make the noise for him.
Travis McGee
October 30th, 2012
7:13 am
Some of those posting on this blog obviously took PE instead of Critical Thinking.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:16 am
The truth! Cons cannot handle the truth. You want the truth!. Okay. Are you ready? The truth is… wait. What’s that noise. What is that, up in the sky. Is that a drone…
Nope. False alarm. That’s just George Bush out scaring the neighborhood kids in his Cessna. GEORGE!!!! (Shaking fist at fool in plane.)
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
7:17 am
October 29, 2012, Washington Times:
This blog needs a laugh track.
Mitt the Twit
October 30th, 2012
7:18 am
THe real question is: How much did Romney’s moneymen pay the terrorists to attack a U.S. embassy and kill Americans?
bob
October 30th, 2012
7:19 am
Hey nutjob rightys, the guy the made the video is in jail now. According to the dead seals dad, Hillary promised him the admin would get the producer of the video. This admin did everything they could. They blamed it on a video and arrested the guy that made it. What else could they have done since we all know this was the result of a video.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:19 am
Sheldon Adelson is settling out of court. What a shocker. What does laundered money look like anyway.
Doggone/GA
October 30th, 2012
7:20 am
” They blamed it on a video and arrested the guy that made it”
No, they didn’t. He was arrested because he violated his parole. “They” had nothing to do with that.
AU Liberal in ATL
October 30th, 2012
7:21 am
This is no longer a story about Benghazi, terrorism, security, or even dead diplomats. It’s a story about the radical right wing trying to come up with something they can use against The President of the United States. People make up their own “facts” and level illogical, uninformed criticisms at the administration for one reason and one reason only. I’m right and you know it, Joseph, RB, etc, etc, etc.
FIRE THEM ALL
October 30th, 2012
7:22 am
Fruitcakes is right “Aquagirl” !!!!!! How any American can not know that we were all lied to from the get go is imaginable. Having voted for Obama I am dreadfully let down in this so called “President.”
I do not wish to have any President – Democrat or Republican – that flies on the wings of “our heros” yet fails to protect them!!!!! Perhaps if he attended all of those foreign affairs briefings every a.m. instead of missing 60% + of them he would have been better off!! Also, I am appalled that he flew to VEGAS the next a.m. after this happened for “his political fundraising rally!” THIS IS NOT A PRESIDENT I WANT IN OFFICE – DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN!!!
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:24 am
Mitt Romney did what! He used an uncharitable trust fund that the IRS banned in order to scam the government out of taxes! NO! Tell me it ain’t so! After all, what’s one more lie from that con, Mitt.
Guido
October 30th, 2012
7:24 am
Jay, downplaying this story is precisely what Obama did, and that’s why is has grown legs. Throwing Hillary under the bus and abandoning all responsibility isn’t very presidential.
Mick
October 30th, 2012
7:24 am
Yes, the conned have jumped the shark on this one…but….but…four dead americans! As if the president and state dept. were assisting the tragedy in real time. Monday morning quarterbacking insanity…
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
7:27 am
Granny,
The behavior of the president was shameful. He was aware that an attack had been made on our embassy and that it was under seige, yet he continued on with his campaign activities. Part of his job is commander in chief and that is a 24×7 job, no breaks no matter what else is scheduled. He likes to tell everyone how he was in the situation room with all his advisors when our forces took out OBL. Why in Gods name did he not give this the same attention. The seige went on for 7 hours yet he chose to go to Las Vegas for his fund raising. He put his fundraising as a higher priority than the lives of those 4 men. Then he and his administration decided to hide behind a made up story about this being caused by a mob gone wild because of an obscure video. And don’t give me the party line of that was the best intelligence we had (as noted in Jay’s column, the CIA was told to stand down and let those men die) as we had drones in the area recording the events. Somebody had to be reviewing that and must have come to the conclusion that it was not a mob gone wild and that the attack was deadly. Somebody must have relayed that information up the chain of command and that should not have taken days to get the facts straight. Either this administration is completely inept at handling an emergency of this nature or they are covering the presidents arse because he made a very poor decision to continue on wth his fundraising plans. Both scenarios speak poorly for the president and if it is the later, then it is eeriely similar to Watergate. It was not the act that brought down Nixon, it was the coverup.
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
7:30 am
as we had drones in the area recording the events.
Ah, another Tom Clancy armchair spy. Just what ‘Merica needs.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:31 am
Does all this lunacy from the right wingnuts about Benghazi mean that the cons finally believe that Obama is a legal citizen of the United States and is qualified per the U.S. Constitution to hold the Office of the President of the United States. After four years, finally, will Orly Taitz and Donald Trump be put out to pasture. Or do the conned think that his true birth certificate was hidden in Benghazi in a secret room in the embassy and terrorists broke in and retrieved it to keep it from prying eyes. Is that it. Uh Oh. Here we go again with the birther conspiracies from the conned.
Mick
October 30th, 2012
7:31 am
max & co
I can only hope that you were just as outraged about all the wasted blood and treasure of the iraqi misadventure???
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:33 am
FIRE THEM ALL
Shame on you.
Putting your own desire to hurt the President above the security of this nation.
It is time to investigate the GOP opposition. Starting from the inaugural day meeting. Subversion from day 1.
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
7:33 am
Despite the best efforts of the lap dog, left wing, lame stream, blatant, mendacious, lunatic propagandists for The Evil Current Regime, Benghazigate is becoming unwrapped faster than Sandra Fluke at a fraternity party.
Given the overhyped focus on Sandra Fluke’s sexuality by the loony right, that probably accurately portrays the same loony right’s focus on something that is completely different, in reality, from what they perceive.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
7:35 am
Having voted for Obama
[...]
I am appalled that he flew to VEGAS the next a.m. after this happened
Thank you for your concern.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:37 am
MadMax
You are simply full of it.
Another GOP subversive.
Party over country.
It makes me ill.
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
7:37 am
Aquagirl, you have seen the clarity of pictures from those drones so yes they provide a level of detail that would allow for an assessment of the circumstances. Why not address the issue – the president screwed up.
Taxpayer, nice try at deflection but you are not addressing the situation. Our president screwed up. Hillary was right, “Who do you want answering the phone at 2 am?”
Mick, yes!
Georgia
October 30th, 2012
7:38 am
Was Valerie Plame ever involved in CIA ops in Libya? When Cheney had her outed, many spies and double agents were outed with her, and those folks are sleeping with the fishes now. That left a vacuum, and who knows what hybrid double agent mutations are in there now.
The lesson of Benghazi is that the war on terror has entered a new phase. Now the enemy is any militia that’s around. There was a huge armory in Iraq when we went in. We didn’t secure it, and when someone finally checked it out, it was empty. Literally thousands of weapons with tons of ammo. We didn’t secure Iraq’s borders then either, so they easily made it to Syria and beyond. Is that how we’ve armed all the current militias? With those exact weapons? That was the beginning of our war on terror. This new phase of war is not the end of the beginning. It’s not even the beginning of the end of the beginning, indeed, it is rather the middle of the end of our national denial that we’re even in a war.
Oh, we’re in a war.
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
7:42 am
Granny, when you get out of your state of denial and take off the Obama love fest glasses, tell me what part of my post “is full of it”. By your response I take it you have no answers why this president flew to Vegas. I guess he believed the ads, What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 30th, 2012
7:42 am
Good morning all y’all.
I’ve been reading and watching this Benghazi thing and I don’t know why, once it was ascertained to be a terror attack, they did not come out and report it, but I do know that there was no time line in which they could have mounted a raid to save the men killed. Without proper mission planning, and getting resources in place, all that would happen is thet we would have thrown more lives away. I heard that the terrorists attacked with upwards of 200 men. If that is true that is approximately two companies. To rescue anybody from that kind of force would have meant an invasion force of three times that number. Just to send in a S.E.A.L. team would have been suicidal. It would have ended the same way that president Carter’s attempt to rescue the Iran Embassy hostages ended. Wouldn’t the right wing have loved that?
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:43 am
Deflection. You can’t handle deflection, con. Watch this.
“Saddam has wmds.” Look at you right wingnuts wee wee all over yourselves.
And this one.
“Mission Accomplished.”
Republicans still swoon when they hear that line.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:43 am
wmds. greet us as liberators. 6 days, 6 weeks.
socialist. kenyan. whitey tape.
jeep plant. benghazi
http://mediamatters.org/search/index?qstring=benghazi
the pattern is ongoing and obvious.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:45 am
Al Jazerra had the same live feed that President Obama did. Too bad cons forgot to push the record button.
Skip
October 30th, 2012
7:45 am
How many spam bloggers can a site handle before it crashes?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:46 am
MadMax
Sickly it is you who accessorize with Obama hate fest specs, Mr. Silly Britches.
And they make you look subversive.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:47 am
BOX 26!
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
7:48 am
Whole lot of fog coming up from the lefties this morning. Just like the administration, no answers, just fog.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:49 am
Romney was at least smart enough to give up this disgusting line of attack.
His most rabid supporters….just aren’t that smart.
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
7:50 am
tell me what part of my post “is full of it”.
The entire thing.
It’s like you’re in your very first bar fight and decided you know how to whoop @$$ because you’ve watched every single Jackie Chan movie.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
7:51 am
Fog, Mad Max?
No.
Right wing flatulance.
AS the serious GOP thinkers back away from this, some of you are just eating this up and it’s noxious.
Bubber in Decatur
October 30th, 2012
7:51 am
So, this goofy bunch of right-wingnut loons want to hang something on that “Evil Socialist, Obama.”
Thus they seize on a situation (Libya) in which thoughtful persons, including — occasionally — Republicans, assess the situation and evaluate alternatives, including the possible use of military intervention.
And, when the military say “…we need more information before we send our people into harm’s way,” these thoughtful people hold back until all the facts are known. And that’s a sensible course, which was followed by the President.
Of course, we once had a Republican President (the last one, the one whose name is never spoken by the GOP right now during election season, but whose hair-trigger neocon advisors are alive and well, and advising Romney on foreign policy). That President plunged us into an eight-year war, which resulted in dead and maimed American fighting fighing men and women, our country’s name and honor being disgraced in the eyes of the world, and a wrecked economy.
And, it was a war based on nothing more than a lie about “weapons of mass destruction” that of course were never found….But that’s okay as far as the lying rightwing talking heads are concerned. All of which far exceeds this fabricated “crisis” they are foisting on the nation a week or so before the election.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:52 am
Someone said the code word, “WAR”, in front of Mitt and the next thing they knew, he was in line at the airport waiting to board a plane to France. He was heard mumbling something about being on a mission to save the French from the horrors of a bordeaux.
alex
October 30th, 2012
7:53 am
Jay, Loons everywhere; the president is responsible only so far as “the fish stinks from the head”m ( and I,m looking for the resignation of the CEO of the Honda corporation because my accord shifter got stuck this morning)… What we all have to remind ourselves are that the Mathews and Beck’s of the world have become entertainers to their respective viewers.The more presss you give them , only serves to embolden them more… After all, the MATURE observer will tune out the loud obnoxious person in favor of the reasoned interpreter of events, right???
Your attention only gives them a louder voice, that’s why we read you JAY, so reasoned, moderate,an even handed approach, a believer in “2 sides to every story” LOOK, there’s a banana in the sky…………….
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
7:55 am
KENYAN!
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
7:55 am
Did someone mention Carter?
Apparently Brandeis U. owes him an apology.
In 2007, Jimmy Carter’s book Palestine: Peace, not Apartheid created a firestorm of controversy. Brandeis University initially said it would only allow Carter to speak on the book on campus if he would debate gadfly apologist Alan Dershowitz. Carter stood his ground and eventually did speak on campus, but many in this audience were distinctly cool to him.
A new poll of Israelis, however, finds that a majority of them believes that there is some or a lot of Apartheid in Israel.
[...]
About a third of Jewish Israelis want to denaturalize Israeli Arabs, depriving them of the right to vote. Nearly half (47%) want some of these Israeli citizens to be ethnically cleansed from Israel and ‘transferred’ to the West Bank, though, confusingly, 38% want to annex the West Bank to Israel altogether. If that happened, though, 69% say that they would oppose giving citizenship to the 2.5 million Palestinians who live there.
(Honestly, when I first heard of that poll, I didn’t want to believe it. I still don’t; I hope there will be others that can tease out the real attitudes of Israelis and show that they haven’t gone as horrifically cynical as that poll would indicate. But yeah–Jimmy Carter is most definitely owed an apology.)
G dog
October 30th, 2012
7:58 am
You wanna talk hysteria, that was the media and left over the bush valarie plame non “outing”. That bs hysteria went on for months. Did anyone die in that Jay? How about Watergate? Anyone die?
Benghazi was a massive failure by this admin AND people DIED. Are you watching the father of Tyrone tell his side. No, you listen to some lying bozo on msnbc saying the same bs you are. The facts and evidence show this was a massive coverup. Blame the video!! Yes keep wallowing in your own feces jay. That’s what you libs do best.
Oh btw, you can write also where chrysler is moving their Jeep production overseas. That’s like the 25th majot company doing that that received gov’t tax $. And obama talks about foreign jobs. Hahaha. You can’t make this bs up.
RationalThoughts
October 30th, 2012
7:59 am
Ok. Never posted on here before, but this is going waayyy too far. Tragedy happened. No doubt. And lapses in judgement were made. No doubt. And time will tell what, if anything, could have been done different.
Now, I have read countless posts saying “why didnt he mobilize” or “why did he wait to get in there” and even “he should have known and beefed up security”….but NO ONE (okay, i only had time for 3 pages of this..not the 9) has mentioned that the President, in 2011 AND 2012 asked for more funding for security at embassies worldwide….and guess what?????? The Republicans in Congress cut that amount by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012….so cool it with the whole “he should have seen this coming…HE DID! But once again, anything the President asks for, is immediately shot down by the other side….
ideasbm
October 30th, 2012
7:59 am
Funny Bookman. I bet you did not have the same comments about Watergate. No one died in that fiasco. I bet if it was your son because of the incompetence shown by this president and state department, you would have pressed it to high heaven. Excuse me, you liberals do not believe in heaven do you. What a fruitcake you are.
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
8:01 am
Aquagirl, So you believe the president was right to continue with his campaign when an American station was being attacked or are you saying he didn’t go to Vegas? Do you believe Joe Biden when he says the reason for the confusion and seemingly conflicting information is that our intelligence was flawed or do you believe the Joe Biden who says Iran doesn’t have the capability to deliver a bomb because our intelligence tells us so?
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
8:02 am
And don’t worry about the weather, cons. You know those computer models cannot be trusted. Trust your faith-based science.
Georgia
October 30th, 2012
8:03 am
The actually copy of “My Pet Goat” that W read when 911 broke, just sold on Ebay for $5K. The sword Hillary fell on after the Benghazi 911 is still being auctioned. The Ginzu Knives that Ann Romney had to settle for when she first got married haven’t appeared yet on Ebay.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:03 am
In today’s episode of Mass Amnesia Theater, we heard:
Watergate. No one died in that fiasco.
[...]
How about Watergate? Anyone die?
Yes. All the people who were slaughtered in SE Asia by the guy who had a secret plan to “end the war.” Had Nixon not been re-elected, and had McGovern won, we would’ve had an orderly withdrawal of our occupying forces, not a long, drawn out series of last bomber-f##ks-for-the-road.
That’s just water under the bridge though, right?
G dog
October 30th, 2012
8:04 am
It’s also telling and sad that the first person obama talked to after word of the attack was axelrod. Not Panetta or any general on the ground. And what does he do after? Goes campaigning to Vegas. You can’t make this bs up. And you libs are a hypocritical joke if you think if a repub did the same thing, that “your” media wouldn’t be chastising him nonstop. Of course! We saw it from 00-08 and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this bs with the lousiest president ever.
1.4 trillion $ deficits every year!! But he promised to cut it in half!!How come he didn’t? Cause his policies were a friggin disaster!!
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:04 am
G Dog
Did anyone die?
Outing Valerie Blame and Brewster Jennings…..
Probably.
But we’ll never know, as it might put more assets at risk.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:05 am
hmm. Had Obama gone to Cleveland rather than Las Vegas, would you Butthurt Over Benghazi Bridgaders be appreciably less butthurt?
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
8:05 am
Yaaaawn….Greetings from Zone D in Manhattan. I see the party faithful have now started to use 4 dead Americans as part of their poutrage. They must have really been pissed when they found out 4,000 died under GW.
Jay
October 30th, 2012
8:07 am
“Hahaha. You can’t make this bs up.
Actually G-Dog, you can because you just did.
Chrysler, for example, is not moving Jeep production to China. That is an out-and-out lie. Chrysler is in fact increasing its U.S. production of Jeeps, and has announced it is hiring another 1,100 workers to do so.
Yes, it is also reopening plants in China to produce Jeeps for sale IN CHINA, not for export here.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:08 am
Greetings from Zone D in Manhattan.
Butch! glad to hear from you.
I hear the Hackensack has loosed its furies on a few small defenseless Bergen County towns. I can visualize a lot of modest, working-class neighborhoods getting washed away but haven’t seen anything on the intertubes yet…
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:10 am
1.4 trillion $ deficits every year!! But he promised to cut it in half!!How come he didn’t? Cause his policies were a friggin disaster!!
Well, given that appropriations bills begin in the House, why didn’t the GOP controlled House simply give him spending bills to cut those deficits in half just as he said he would? Is it because of the fact that even the GOP numpties understand that cutting spending would cripple our economy?
straitroad
October 30th, 2012
8:10 am
Hysteria? Jay, you are not an individual who’s grounded in reality. Now that we are getting information about the actual events that took place, it is inconceivable that the administration would have sent Susan Rice out and other surrogates to try to deceive us into believing that this was spawned by a protest. It may soothe your insecurities to have like-minded folks on this board tell you how talented you are and pat you on the back no matter how false your drivel gets, but it doesn’t change reality. The reality is this: the adminstration screwed up, then panic set in, and now there’s no where to hide. Four people died needlessly and you have the gall to label those trying to find answers as hysterical. Maybe you’re the one with balls the size of cue balls.
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:10 am
dB
They’re butthurt just because Obama breathes…
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
8:11 am
Cons have advanced from hysteria to sheer lunacy. They not only do not need facts to support their claims, they ignore facts that are presented and even replace facts with their hallucinations.
JKL2
October 30th, 2012
8:13 am
Mainstream media, propaganda wing of the Democrat party, seems to be doing it’s best to cover up a pre-election crisis. What a shock.
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
8:13 am
Aquagirl, So you believe
I believe I know little about what really happened in Benghazi or who should have done what.
I KNOW there’s a lot of pompous blowhards who think they DO know yakking on the internet and making fools of themselves. Come to think of it there’s a few right here.
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:14 am
Butch
Glad to hear from you…. Stay dry my friend.
Gerry
October 30th, 2012
8:15 am
Rational…you assume some cuts, which were needed, kept them from doing anything? Are you really this dumb? This is about being attacked twice in May and June. The Embassador sending warning letters to fall on deaf ears. Emails showing this. Oh but some tiny cuts prevented us from doing anything. haha. Whatever. This is the president who has gone around any law he wants to spend spend spend. Look no further than welfare. This is about an admin that fell asleep and then tried to lie their way out of it. And people DIED!!! Listen to the father and brother speak. they want answers and the pathetic media outlets aren’t even pressing them cause they want this inept pres reelected. Truly disgusting.
JKL2
October 30th, 2012
8:15 am
butch- They must have really been pissed when they found out 4,000 died under GW.
Please show me where Bush blamed it on a video.
TiredOfIt
October 30th, 2012
8:16 am
Why do the right-wingers get so much enjoyment out of Benghazi and the death of Americans? Reading their comments you can almost see the smiles on their faces.
Why are you so desperate, if you are so sure “lying man” will win? Speaking of “lying man” why is he still saying that the Jeep factory in Ohio is going to China when the company has denied it. Once a liar always a liar.
JKL2
October 30th, 2012
8:16 am
-I KNOW there’s a lot of pompous blowhards who think they DO know yakking on the internet and making fools of themselves. Come to think of it there’s a few right here.
named aquagirl…
Willis
October 30th, 2012
8:17 am
Let the Republicans hoot and holler all they want about Benghazi.
What people want to know is what Romney, who left the Governor’s office in Massachusetts with a 31% approval rating, is going to do about jobs. Of course he will tell us his secret about how to ship jobs to China and make money for himself on Day One.
will the "REAL" Mitt Romeny please stand up...
October 30th, 2012
8:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxch-yi14BE
Mark
October 30th, 2012
8:19 am
Brose
Why didn’t the president try and work with the gop and fix the economy istead of ramming his hideous health care law down our throats. Something 65% of the country didn’t want. Huh huh? And he had control of congress the first two years ya doofus.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:19 am
JKL2
October 30th, 2012
8:15 am
butch- They must have really been pissed when they found out 4,000 died under GW.
Please show me where Bush blamed it on a video
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.
.
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Please show us all that Bush ever figured out WHO to blame it on!
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:21 am
Please show me where Bush blamed it on a video.
“Ah hear the rumors on the Internets.”
DannyX
October 30th, 2012
8:21 am
Jay, remember how ridiculous the birther nonsense got a few years back?
These are the people you are dealing with here. Crazy is as crazy does.
Shawn Stafford
October 30th, 2012
8:22 am
Insert Bush instead of Obama, then imagine what it would look like. In case your confused, the mainstream media wouldn’t be able to talk about anything else. In fact, I bet Jay would write multiple articles about Bush’s incompetence, failed policies, crimes and desire to see him arrested. Instead. Nothing to see here, just move along. Glaring hypocrisy…
JamVet
October 30th, 2012
8:23 am
Wow.
Sometimes the over the top stuff written here is seemingly meant to do nothing more than just get a reaction.
But the Thin Guy?
That one is seriously messed up in the head…
Williebkind
October 30th, 2012
8:24 am
So the video does not exist, the creator of the movie is not in jail, the four Americans are alive, the terrorist were not involved, the 9/11 day had no significance, and the Obama administration had no idea what was happening, and the administration had to wait and see? Well, hell all things are good!
willie lynch
October 30th, 2012
8:24 am
If they would have just locked up Obama after he killed Steven Foster we wouldn’t be dealing with this. Then he tried to choke W to death in the White House no less. Yeah, I never fell for that choking on a pretzel nonsense.
Down with Obama, Osama, yo mama, whatever…
TiredOfIt
October 30th, 2012
8:24 am
Romney: I’m lying for the lord. Gotta love religion?
MadMax
October 30th, 2012
8:24 am
Let’s see. This blog was up in arms over Romney’s ill chosen words about the 47% and how callous the man is. Now the president abandons his post to attend a fund raiser in Las Vegas and lets four men die without getting involved and they don’t find that callous at all. Actions speak louder than words. I don’t know if he could have done anything to prevent the deaths of those four men but I expect more frorm our president than greeting the casket as that was too late and only ceremonial.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
8:25 am
WILLIS
Exactly how many jobs did Romney actually offshore? Any idea?
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:25 am
Insert Bush instead of Obama, then imagine what it would look like.
~80-90% Gallup approval in the months after the attack.
RationalThoughts
October 30th, 2012
8:25 am
Gerry
Last time i checked the military, security, embassies, protecting our citizens on foreign soil, all cost money.. so yeah, that “tiny” half a billion dollars denied for EXTRA SECURITY does mean something. But hey, never let facts get in the way of a good story, eh? The sad part is IF troops were sent in, I am almost sure folks like you would have said it was a “campaign stunt” to show how tough he is on foreign policy…right?
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:26 am
Why didn’t the president try and work with the gop and fix the economy istead of ramming his hideous health care law down our throats.
Why didn’t Jack Cousteau hand feed great white sharks near Seal Island in South Africa?
As far as I can tell, the president did try to work with Congress as a whole to fix things. What he got in return was outright stonewalling by the GOP. While you and others try to blame the president for the failure of Congress to do anything worthwhile, people like me laugh. People like me, who actually know how the Constitution set up our government, realize that the president doesn’t have a friggin’ thing to do with Congress other than to spew words.
Legislation from Congress has to come from Congress, has to be written by Congress, and has to pass votes by Congress before the president can do anything to them. A Republican healthcare bill passed without a single Republican vote. The supply side idea of tax cuts to stimulate the economy was used in the stimulus AND with the payroll tax cut. Free trade agreements were signed with three different countries by the president. Every bill that passed Congress has been signed into law by the president. So you tell me how you’ve come to the conclusion that the president has not worked with the GOP in Congress?
indigo
October 30th, 2012
8:27 am
Republican propaganda experts are using Benghazi in a cold and calculating way to hurt Obama as much as possible. The right-wing hysteria comes from the Republican gullible electorate who believe every lie these propaganda experts tell them.
Sherman captures Georgia starring Eminem
October 30th, 2012
8:27 am
….Atlanta has burned down to the ground….Sherman headed South towards Statesboro…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s
Williebkind
October 30th, 2012
8:27 am
Insert Obama’s grils in the embassy, then imagine what it would look like!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
8:27 am
Are the LIBs on this post suggesting the BO and his appointees did a terrific job with responding to Benghazi? What was the response aside from some obligatory invesigation?
We all know the first several shots our of the press machine weren’t exactly robust or accurate..
Williebkind
October 30th, 2012
8:28 am
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:26 am
Good deflection! That must be the liberal DNC instructions this morning.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
8:28 am
JKL2 – “Please show me where Bush blamed it on a video.”
You got me. 4,000 Americans killed based on imaginary WMD’s and a completely fabricated reason for invading a sovereign nation, but you’re right, there was no video.
Congrats on your well deserved victory.
PMC
October 30th, 2012
8:29 am
My problem with the whole thing Jay is that we have the best military on the planet. It’s inexcusable that a rescue mission would not be feasable. I don’t watch opinion news programs because they are as worthless as two party presidential debates where any of us could answer for the “candidates”.
It’s inexcusable that our people, military and civilian diplomats would be in such danger. I’m not blaming it politically on Obama or Panetta or anyone personally. Obviously they didn’t want this to happen, but it’s inexcusable that any US Embassy on this planet, but especially those in war torn areas would not have such sufficient defense meaures that an attack on it or the people within it’s sphere of protection would be suicide.
I would hope personally that whomever is leading the state department going forward, would absolutely never let this happen again.
willie lynch
October 30th, 2012
8:29 am
Shawn Stafford
October 30th, 2012
8:22 am
I’ve posed the question on more than one occasion so maybe you can give a credible answer. Why are people less upset that Cheney and Bush would not go before the 9/11 Commission without the other being in the room and without being under oath? We should never discount human life but there were 3000+ people killed on 9/11 and the president and vice president didn’t want to be sworn to tell the truth on record. Where’s the outrage? I find the silence on this quite astounding.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
8:29 am
INDIGO
Gullible? How is it that you are less gullible that the wingnuts on the right? You have more in common with them in the sheep department than you will possibly ever admit.
Why was BO’s response so awe inspiring?
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
8:30 am
Insert Bush instead of Obama, then imagine what it would look like.
You don’t have to imagine a surprise attack under G.W. Bush where Americans died unless you’re under 12 years old. So maybe you should brush your teeth and get to school instead of using mommy’s internet to embarrass yourself.
kayaker 71
October 30th, 2012
8:30 am
Meanwhile, an American who produced a video expressing his 1st Amendment rights is still in jail on some trumped up probation charge, drug there in the middle of the night at the order of the Justice Dept. And the lies still keep rolling in to appease those who either just don’t give a tinkers damn what happened or are so far up Bozo’s butt that they try to spin their own story, Bookman being one of them. So many questions still unanswered….. but its election time, my friends. Wouldn’t want to tell the truth quite yet.
Mick
October 30th, 2012
8:30 am
Nice work jay, this column has gotten the conned dander up beyond expectations…keep playing them like a fiddle…
Right Wing Bible Thumpin' Gun Nut
October 30th, 2012
8:31 am
Them WMDs was really there. Dick Cheney said they was.
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:32 am
Insert Bush instead of Obama, then imagine what it would look like.
~80-90% Gallup approval in the months after the attack.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx
Click on GW Bush and notice that huge spike around September 2011. Day 240 in office, and Bush’s approval rating was at 90%. He didn’t touch 50% until day 970 in office. That’s a total of 730 days, or exactly 2 years of more than 50% approval.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:32 am
Why didn’t the president try and work with the gop and fix the economy istead of ramming his hideous health care law down our throats.
Why didn’t the GOP want to work with the newly elected Prsident instead of having a secret meeting the evening of the innauguration?
Subversives.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
8:32 am
Can someone let me know when Romney is expected to visit NYC and talk about how the State needs to foot the bill for Sandy? I’d really like to attend that rally.
carismar
October 30th, 2012
8:33 am
From Thomas Sowell:
The belated release of State Department e-mails shows that the Obama administration knew, while the attack on the American consulate was still underway, that it was a coordinated, armed terrorist attack. They were getting reports from those inside the consulate who were under attack, as well as surveillance pictures from a camera on an American drone overhead.
About an hour before the attack, the scene outside was calm enough for the American ambassador to accompany a Turkish official to the gates of the consulate to say goodbye. This could hardly have happened if there were protesting mobs there.
Why then did both President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice keep repeating the story that this was a spontaneous protest riot against an anti-Islamic video in America?
The White House knew the facts — but they knew that the voting public did not. And it mattered hugely whether the facts became known to the public before or after the election. What the White House needed was a process of “cooling out” the voters, keeping them distracted or in uncertainty as long as possible.
Not only did the Obama administration keep repeating the false story about an anti-Islamic video being the cause of a riot that turned violent, the man who produced that video was tracked down and arrested, creating a media distraction.
All this kept the video story front and center, with the actions and inactions of the Obama administration kept in the background.
The White House had to know that it was only a matter of time before the truth would come out. But time was what mattered, with an election close at hand. The longer they could stretch out the period of distraction and uncertainty — “cooling out” the voters — the better. Once the confidence man in the White House was reelected, it would be politically irrelevant what facts came out.
As the Obama administration’s video story began to slowly unravel, their earlier misstatements were blamed on “the fog of war” that initially obscures many events. But there was no such “fog of war” in this case. The Obama administration knew what was happening while it was happening.
They didn’t know all the details — and we may never know all the details — but they knew enough to know that this was no protest demonstration that got out of hand.
From the time it took office, the Obama administration has sought to suppress the very concept of a “war on terror” or the terrorists’ war on us. The painful farce of calling the Fort Hood murders “workplace violence,” instead of a terrorist attack in our midst, shows how far the Obama administration would go to downplay the dangers of Islamic extremist terrorism.
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:33 am
Good deflection! That must be the liberal DNC instructions this morning.
Nope. I don’t belong to the DNC, nor do I receive anything from them. Once again, you simply show how much of a dumbass you are. Please don’t try to think anymore. I’d hate for you to kill that one remaining brain cell that you have left.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
8:34 am
Have Republicans in Congress worked out what benefits they will cut in order to fund FEMA yet. People are waiting. What will Mitt do? Let them eat cake, so long as they can afford it. Only your hidden camera video knows for sure.
Obama causes NYC Crane Collaspe #FoxNews
October 30th, 2012
8:36 am
“We Report and the nations idiots and racist believe”
DBCOOPER
October 30th, 2012
8:36 am
http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/10/29/obama-fires-top-admiral-for-advocating-libyan-rescue/
More of Bokky’s Hysteria. Right! Jay the Fat Ladies warming up pal.
Georgia
October 30th, 2012
8:37 am
Remember that you have to spam what’s trending to make money on spam. That’s what twitter is. Spam. You can make money by haunting multiple blogs and spam what’s trending. That’s why there’s so much white noise on every single stinking blog. The spammers don’t care what they’re actually texting. It could be a coffee enima recipe for that extra bit of freshness for the non homophobic everyman. Who cares. They’re making money by baiting readers with creative news analysis. This time it’s business. Romney didn’t have a foreign policy beyond Obama’s shadow so Glenn Beck had to come up with one. Listen to twenty minutes of Rush and you’ve got your spam for the day. Rush trends. Beck trends. His listeners actually tweet what they hear in real time. Then they attack all the blogs with the trending buzzwords.
Everyone knows this, right? I mean, is there one cave dweller out there who doesn’t know about trending spam attacks on blogs by entrepreneurs? It’s not political. It’s business.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
8:37 am
GRANNY
Actually BO threw the initial obstructionist grenade between election and inauguration…remember the “”we won and I’m president so get over it” comment when he was approached with a GOP bill that among other things, eliminated tax from unemployment recoveries and reduced the bottom two tax brackets?
TiredOfIt
October 30th, 2012
8:38 am
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
8:32 am
Can someone let me know when Romney is expected to visit NYC and talk about how the State needs to foot the bill for Sandy? I’d really like to attend that rally.
++
It will be a while, “lying-man” doesn’t want to get his 500.00 dollar shoes wet.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 30th, 2012
8:38 am
Let the Cons have their hysteria – it takes their mind off their failure of a candidate. A guy no one can really like.
Anniem
October 30th, 2012
8:39 am
Oh wait…I see it now…this was all a plot on Obama’s part because he wanted to endure the endless accusations about what he should have done, what he should have said . He really wanted to give fodder to idiots like Beck and Fox and Limbaugh-are you all serious??? The right is grasping at absolutely any drivel they can find embarass The President. What would Williard have done??? Oh, I know, he would have fired off the drones, sent in troops a day later and sprayed the country side with their firepower then would have been so sad when he met their caskets at Andrews.
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
8:39 am
Paul Broun was in charge of blessing the door that President Obama walked through and that was supposed to exorcise the evil Kenyan socialist communist fascist conservative Christian Muslim capitalist that was hiding in him. Blame Paul Broun for your party’s failure to complete the mission.
tc
October 30th, 2012
8:40 am
Here is a question I have. The administration continues to claim that they gave out the best information they had at the time, which was that the attack was due to reaction over an american made film. Then exactly where did that information come from. There is no answer to that question. All of the information that has been found or put out by either side does not suggest that they had any information linking the attacks to the film. Why can’t the administration explain where they received the information linking the attacks to the film. If they would explain that it would clear a lot of this up. My guess is that they have a very poor source and they know that that would only lead to further problems. To me this is the start of the problems the administration has. The American people have a lack of trust with the current aministration as they should.
indigo
October 30th, 2012
8:41 am
Stevie Ray – 8:29
Bush and Cheney’s lies about WMD’s have resulted in 4,000 American military deaths. This seems to mean nothing to you.
A still unclear attack in Benghazi resulted in four American civilian deaths. You and other cons are going all to pieces over this.
And now, you can’t wait for a Bush clone to be our next president.
And you call ME gullible?????????????????
Obama/Biden 2012
October 30th, 2012
8:41 am
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Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:42 am
Stevie Ray “benjamin Button” Or “Merlin”….clown guy
I believe he said that a year afterwards…..
You really can’t save time in a bottle.
Dixie Chicks
October 30th, 2012
8:42 am
Where is George W. Bush?
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
8:42 am
tc -”The American people have a lack of trust with the current aministration as they should.”
Actually, I pretty much distrust all administrations. Why is this one so special for you?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 30th, 2012
8:42 am
remember the “”we won and I’m president so get over it” comment
I remember something like that. And next week he can say it all over again.
mwuahahahahahahahahaha
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
8:42 am
The Tea Party Tribune—oh yeah, keep reading that. Try to get your IQ in the negative range and provide even more laughs.
Right Wing Bible Thumpin' Gun Nut
October 30th, 2012
8:43 am
I plan my huntin’ season around Glenn Beck’s broadcasts. He and Dick Cheney, now that’s a ticket that would make America great again!
Brosephus™
October 30th, 2012
8:43 am
Actually BO threw the initial obstructionist grenade between election and inauguration…
Nope. The obstructionism has been steadily escalating since the 1980’s. We’re just witnessing a continued escalation of the confirmation skirmishes, legislative battles, and other crap. Obama’s, Boehner’, Cantor’s, Pelosi’s, Reid’s, nor McConnell’s actions in the 2000’s have anything to do with it other than simply adding fuel to the already raging fire.
gadem
October 30th, 2012
8:43 am
Republicans are politicizing this entire Benghazi event, but they were very silent when men and women were being killed by the thousands in Iraq. Death in Iraq is ok…death in Benghazi not ok.
Doggone/GA
October 30th, 2012
8:44 am
“Why didn’t the president try and work with the gop and fix the economy”
Because you can’t “work with” people who only have 2 answers: “No” or “My way or the highway”
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
8:45 am
Tom Price was given one simple job–say “I Object” to everything that President Obama wanted–and Tom could not even handle that. Blame Tom Price for his failure to say “I Object” in a sufficiently whiny voice often enough to block passage of ACA. That one is on Tom Price’s shoulders. He’s a failure.
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:45 am
Actually BO threw the initial obstructionist grenade between election and inauguration…remember the “”we won and I’m president so get over it”
Remember, folks–our Stevie Ray is an “independent” and totally just wants to light a candle on both sides!
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 30th, 2012
8:45 am
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/
Here is what was said about “I won”.
Mitch McConnell
October 30th, 2012
8:46 am
“Why didn’t the president try and work with the gop and fix the economy”
___
I do not care about fixing the economy. My main objective is to make sure that Barack Obama is a “one term” President.
The Truth
October 30th, 2012
8:47 am
Funny how the Cons call the AJC a “liberal rag”, but they spend all day trolling AJC’s blogs spewing their idiocy.
Anniem
October 30th, 2012
8:47 am
tc the answer to your question lies in reading. The information obtained from a lawyer who was in the area said that as the terrorists were closing off the streets to the embassy he saw them instructing groups of students to lead the advance on the gates shouting their revulsion to the video. It was to distract from their intention to then attack with heavy weapons-it was felt the security staff would not attack the students and would be distracted by their demonstration…thus the intitial confusion.
Jeff
October 30th, 2012
8:49 am
Sure starting to sound like “Black Hawk Down” to me, There was gunships within an hour that could have destroyed the terrorist.. But the main question is this, Why on the eve of the aniversary of 9/11 was there not a much stronger detachment of security on at these locations.. When you project weaknes then you get attacked..
JKL2
October 30th, 2012
8:49 am
butch- You got me. 4,000 Americans killed based on imaginary WMD’s and a completely fabricated reason for invading a sovereign nation, but you’re right, there was no video.
Not sure where they ever got that intel: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html
Mitch McConnell
October 30th, 2012
8:49 am
These are “MY” famous words:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gM-1HbK4qU
stands for decibels
October 30th, 2012
8:50 am
“Come on! all he had to do was send a gunship out there and kill a few hundred people and everything woulda been cool!”
/your right-wing punditry class, third division
DannyX
October 30th, 2012
8:50 am
“Now watch this drive.”
trueblueeagle
October 30th, 2012
8:51 am
Four Americans dead
Why does the liberal media protect Obama?
Thats the big question it reminds me of Germany from 1933 to 1945 both socialist.
Bookman can you answer that?
Right Wing Bible Thumpin' Gun Nut
October 30th, 2012
8:51 am
What’s Anne Coulter got to say about this? If she weren’t a woman and so butt ugly I might vote for her.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:53 am
JKL2
Wrong President, Wrong Year, Wrong Argument
Mr. Silly Bloomers!
sam
October 30th, 2012
8:53 am
my sources told me that Obama actually was there in Libya at the time with a team of Navy Seals but wouldnt let them engage because they were finishing up a game of hoops
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 30th, 2012
8:53 am
well done, JKL, for pointing out that they were all DESTROYED … in other words, they were no longer in existence.
East Lake Ira
October 30th, 2012
8:53 am
You made Wonkette:
As Jay Bookman of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution notes, the whole “Obama shoulda sent GI Joes to beat COBRA” scenario is purely speculative:
DannyX
October 30th, 2012
8:53 am
“Thats the big question it reminds me of Germany from 1933 to 1945 both socialist.”
Lol! Yea, the situations are exactly alike.
Great example of right wing hysteria, keep them coming!
Georgia
October 30th, 2012
8:54 am
Why doesn’t Trump join in the fray? Where is the potted plant with the flip flopping empty hair? I’d say he’s gone full Stalin and is executing every single member of his staff who should have known he was stepping in a big pile of poo. Trump is a queer deer. He once sang, “Green Acres” on television. It was a disaster, but it only made you love him more. Remember when he tore into Rosie O’donnell when she mimed his hair flip flop on the View? He overkilled her. You can’t attack an comic like that. The little old ladies in Peoria won’t understand. But, then he created one of the most entertaining shows ever. If he said, “you’re fired” to a wannabe loser that we hated, boy did we cheer!!!! Television doesn’t get any better than that.
But Trump proves that luck is a fickle angel. how unlucky it was that he wasn’t saved from that big reveal. How to rehab? If he gives five million to the poor kids in chicago, it might begin the rehab. Naw. He’s is never to command respect again. Every single new yorker who meets Trump can out debate trump. Even the homeless. Debating Trump is like debating an empty hair. Would you listen to Trumps braying ever again? After the Veep debate, Eric Erickson said that Biden acted so poorly that Mary could ride him into Bethlehem. He should have saved that one.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
8:54 am
Liberal media.
That’s still on of the great comedic lines of all time!
Another Obama Apologist Against Right Wing “Hysteria” — Peach Pundit
October 30th, 2012
8:55 am
[...] Mike Hassinger · 0 comments TweetJay Bookman’s post yesterday at the AJC dismissed me -and hundreds of thousands of other Americans- as imbeciles and hysterics eager to be [...]
Paul
October 30th, 2012
8:55 am
JAY
Want to see the undecides break for Obama and the Democrats? Just have the DNC distribute conservative responses from this thread to your two questions.
There’s being an ideologue, and then there’s detachment from reality.
A Review of Dick Cheney’s “In My Time”
October 30th, 2012
8:56 am
After the illegal invasion of Iraq, justified through bald faced lies, Halliburton was given exclusives to contracts for the rebuilding of that country. In carrying out these contracts Halliburton stole billions, some consisting of pallets stacked 6 feet high with hundred dollar bills just disappearing. The fraud and abuse was blatant to the extreme.
Appearing before a Congressional Committee in 2004, Cheney was asked by Senator Patrick Leahy to produce the documentation showing where the missing billions in Iraq had gone to. Cheney told Leahy “Go f$%k yourself” and hence telling the American people the same thing as it was our money that was stolen.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 30th, 2012
8:56 am
Thanks Mitt!
The fatal meningitis epidemic sweeping the United States can now be traced to the failure of then-Gov. Mitt Romney to adequately regulate the Massachusetts pharmaceutical company that is being blamed for the deaths.
At least 344 people in 18 states have been infected by the growing public health crisis and 25 have died so far.
But the epidemic may also play a role in the presidential campaign, now that state records reveal that a Massachusetts regulatory agency found that the New England Compounding Co., the pharmaceutical company tied to the epidemic, repeatedly failed to meet accepted standards in 2004 — but a reprimand was withdrawn by the Romney administration in apparent deference to the company’s business interests.
http://www.salon.com/2012/10/30/romneys_lax_regulation_fueled_meningitis_outbreak/
The Benghazi story is bull!
October 30th, 2012
8:56 am
The military always uses intelligence and strategy before deploying troops or any type of military force. Anyone that thinks differently is just stupid.
GFJacket
October 30th, 2012
8:58 am
Did Bush know about 9/11 prior to the attack? Did Bush know there were no WMD in Iraq prior to the invasion?
Your answer to these two will tell you whether you can look at the Benghazi incident with any sense of objectivity….
As a final consideration. . . if the parties were reversed (especially if Bush were still President), would your questions/explanations be the same?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 30th, 2012
8:59 am
“Way to go Brownie” or “Christie told reporters yesterday that he’d spoken to Obama, “and he told me that if, at any point over the next 48 hours, I was not getting something from the federal government that I should call him directly at the White House and that he was going to be there. And I should just not worry about dealing with anybody else, call him. So I appreciate that call from the president. It was very proactive. And I appreciate that type of leadership.”
But I am sure that the clown car of posters who are posting silly lies about “Obama lied, people died” fail to comprehend real leadership skills from our President.
Paul
October 30th, 2012
9:00 am
Hi Butch
Glad you’re okay. My brother’s been visiting. Lives a couple blocks off Times Square. Due to fly back thru Philly on Thursday. Says as long as Times Square is lit up he has power.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 30th, 2012
9:00 am
By the way, if you want to help, in addition to money to the American Red Cross, give blood.
Millard Fillmore
October 30th, 2012
9:01 am
Jay- your continuing idiocy is very entertaining. The issue clearly was not whether PrezBO should do a rescue mission but that PrezBO lied to the American people about the entire event and attempted to cover up the fact that the embassy had previously requested additional security. The fact that someone died in this mess does not bother you??!?!?!? You are defending PrezBO by attempting to change the subject. Get real.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
9:01 am
The Benghazi story is bull!
October 30th, 2012
8:56 am
The military always uses intelligence and strategy before deploying troops or any type of military force.
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They are NOW.
2001 – 2008 Not so much.
Aquagirl
October 30th, 2012
9:02 am
Sure starting to sound like “Black Hawk Down” to me
At last, one of our never been there/never done that “experts” cites his source for his pompous lectures on how to handle national security.
Go back to watching Black Hawk Down in your mom’s basement. Maybe the CIA will recognize your genius when their secret DVD scanner informs them you’re on your 47th viewing.
St Simons
October 30th, 2012
9:02 am
thank god, one more week of flinging poo, and they are forever the Whigs
then we can work on a REAL party to the left of democrats that
represents working people & consumers.
The American Consumers Party?
The People’s Republic-ans? (that would be funny)
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 30th, 2012
9:02 am
“it reminds me of Germany from 1933 to 1945 both socialist”
some numpty at the airport actually tried to use the whole “appeasement” BS line on me at the airport last week …
I ripped him a new one (which is to say, I destroyed him with history and, well, you know, FACTS)
Paul
October 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Finn
Seems a stretch. Eight years back. Nothing since then? His successors did not see fit to take any action in the years since?
jlfliberty
October 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Jay you left out the third reason that “Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign since Oct. 12″. He is waiting on you in the media to (DO YOUR JOBS) and get the facts. Geez….. DIMBA!
TaxPayer
October 30th, 2012
9:06 am
Why didn’t the GOP give the DoD the funding they needed to perfect teleportation! If President Obama had used the flawed teleportation device to rescue the ambassador, we know what the outcome would have been and our President Obama could never allow that. The blame falls squarely on the GOP and their penny pinching ways.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
9:07 am
STANDS
Nice deflection that seems to accompany all your responses that you are ill able to reply with anything of merit..
GRANNY
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/01/23/obama-to-gop-i-won/
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
9:09 am
INDIGO
I’m puzzled…why are you deflecting with what happened 10 years ago?
Keep on topic…do you really have no credible response?
Why is what happened in Bush years relevant? Speculation over what Romney may or may not do is nothing more than that…
URGENT: Fox News Poll
October 30th, 2012
9:10 am
47% of Americans are dumb enough to watch and believe every distorted story we report.
Wake Up! Mitt was born rich and doesn’t give a damn about the middle class, poor, women, minorities, etc, etc.
Don’t worry. It will be all over next Tuesday evening. FOUR MORE YEARS!
RB from Gwinnett
October 30th, 2012
9:10 am
Jay, “Yes, it is also reopening plants in China to produce Jeeps for sale IN CHINA, not for export here.”
But if GE builds a light bulb plantbin China or India, that’s “shipping jobs overseas” right? Neverind those are the 2 fastest growing markets and they WOULD NEVER SELL THE FIRST LIGHT BULB THERE IF THEY PRODUCED THEM HERE WITH OU LABOR RATES AND TRIED TO COMPETE WITH BULBS PRODUCED THERE WITH THEIR LABOR RATES.
At least be consistent.
THE REASON I READ THIS BLOG!
October 30th, 2012
9:11 am
“it reminds me of Germany from 1933 to 1945 both socialist”
LMAO
GT
October 30th, 2012
9:12 am
The Republican Party has somehow filtered out common sense in its homogenous makeup and correct impulse that they are an endangered species. I was going to say nuts never got this far pass the security gate of either party but I think of a paranoid Nixon and take that back. As you quiet often find in the freefall of loose character, the lead actors have understudies. Watergate didn’t clean em all out, the clever ones were allowed to slink off into the dark, and show back up on later x-rays like cancer.
We talk about the minority races being violate, you seldom ever heard about the corrupt majority, that covertly and immorally mismanage information and sabotage to gain power. Agnew called them the silent majority, and there was a reason to stay silent, to not draw attention to their activities. As I listen to their lies and now am able to track who they are, and watch who soaks these lies up with pleasure, no measure for character or daylight for truth I see Nixon still stamped on this party. The Republican have recruited and attracted the bigotry that was the Democratic baggage, money from unnamed sources, to go with their already, disrespect for the constitution or any limitation on poor conduct and like Sandy have found the perfect storm of evil; after we thought we had past these times in our history.
Lee
October 30th, 2012
9:12 am
Facts are the facts….Obama lied to the American people and got caught. Someone died and he still denies responsibility.
The Truth
October 30th, 2012
9:12 am
Romney’s desperate… He’s been reduced to lying about Jeep shipping jobs overseas to China.
robroka
October 30th, 2012
9:15 am
The only wingnuts here are the ones that can’t see the blatant partisan double standard on display. Let’s assume George W. Bush’s State Department allowed something like this to happen through inaction or outright incompetence and then Predident Bush proceeded to fabricate some silly story about a low budget movie in an effort to cover up his culpability in the resulting mess. All you lefties would be apoplectic, calling for impeachment proceedings and criminal prosecutions.
The problem here is that liberals don’t have principles. They’re for whatever sounds good at the moment and nothing sounds better than four more years of the Dear Leader- truth, facts, logic and reason matter not.
Well, reality is going to come crashing down like a ton of bricks in one week. Go check out Gallup’s latest numbers on early voting. In Ohio alone there are 220,000 less Democrats and 30,000 more Republicans as compared to one week out in 2008. Romney is ahead 52% to 47% nationally in a poll with a sample size of 3300+ early voters.
Obama is in very big trouble and he knows it. He turned Air Force One around and headed back to Washington yesterday morning the moment those early voting numbers were released. He realized his problem is bigger than Florida and what better way to get national news coverage than jump on a national story. Obama didn’t know how bad the storm was going to be on Sunday afternoon when he boarded the plane headed for campaigning in Florida? I knew it was going to be a terrible storm on Sunday and the President didn’t? Give me a break!
Lee
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
The Truth….Hmmmm lets see Romney desperate? Who is ahead in the polls?
indigo
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
Stevie Ray – 9:09
Ignoring over 4,000 needless American military deaths cause by Republican lies, and just hoping the topic will go away, is rather childish.
Fervently hoping another Bush clone will be our next president is totally mindless.
Here’s a tip. The TOPIC is “I don’t want another Bush in the White House”. Why do you?
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
robroka – “He turned Air Force One around and headed back to Washington yesterday morning the moment those early voting numbers were released.”
Yes, thank goodness a superstorm came ashore to distract the public from such an obvious ploy.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
Stevie
Thank you so much for correcting me.
He said it two days after this:
Luntz had organized the dinner – telling the invitees, “You’ll have nothing to do that night, and right now we don’t matter anyway, so let’s all be irrelevant together.” He had selected these men because they were among the Republican Party’s most energetic thinkers – and because they all got along with Luntz, who could be difficult. Three times during the 2008 election cycle, Sean Hannity had thrown him off the set at Fox Studios. The top Republican in the House, Minority Leader John Boehner, had nurtured a dislike of Luntz for more than a decade. No one had to ask why Boehner wasn’t at the Caucus Room that evening.
[...]
The dinner lasted nearly four hours. They parted company almost giddily. The Republicans had agreed on a way forward:
Go after Geithner. (And indeed Kyl did, the next day: “Would you answer my question rather than dancing around it – please?”)
Show united and unyielding opposition to the president’s economic policies. (Eight days later, Minority Whip Cantor would hold the House Republicans to a unanimous No against Obama’s economic stimulus plan.)
Begin attacking vulnerable Democrats on the airwaves. (The first National Republican Congressional Committee attack ads would run in less than two months.)
Win the spear point of the House in 2010. Jab Obama relentlessly in 2011. Win the White House and the Senate in 2012.
“You will remember this day,” Newt Gingrich proclaimed to the others as they said goodbye. “You’ll remember this days as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown.” [Do Not Ask What Good We Do, pp. xvi-xix]
H/T MMA
and 4 or 5 days after this:
“So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.”
~Rush Limbaugh
Who started it?
Next week we’ll see who finishes it.
William
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
That’s right, Jay.
Who give a s**t about some Marines and an Ambassador when it’s re-electing the Obamanation that we’re really concerned with here…
7 more days ..
NEVER AGAIN!
trueblueeagle
October 30th, 2012
9:19 am
Main stream media is far left and name calling does not answer why four american are dead and it could have been stop. Those will not remember history will repeat its mistakes.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
9:20 am
Lee – “The Truth….Hmmmm lets see Romney desperate? Who is ahead in the polls?
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
According to this it’s Obama up 280 to Romneys 235. Does that help to answer your question?
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 30th, 2012
9:20 am
I’m just glad that my tax money was stolen from me so that GM can supply cheaper Jeeps to the manchurians and Eyetalians.
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gush…….thank you Obama…gush.
RB from Gwinnett
October 30th, 2012
9:21 am
Jeep is shipping jobs overseas. They can produce them here and export, right?
Craig Berlin
October 30th, 2012
9:22 am
Jay, this sorta feeds into the notion that anyone who disagrees with Obama is either a racist or a wing-nut ad nauseum. If what some of us believe to be appropriate concern is in fact, hysteria, then why is it the mainstream media is not covering the issue in depth to put it to rest? That would seem to be their job – to get to the bottom of it and investigate the truth of any supposedly hyperbolic claims. That’s what CNN’s Erin Burnett and Anderson Cooper have done – not just Fox – but the rest of the media is playing softball and avoiding the issues. Perhaps that is because asking more questions will only serve to reveal more discrepancies and more vague answers from the White House that only make matters worse.
If the GOP and the hysterical right-wingers are wrong, then someone needs to come forward and prove it.
Not So Casual Observer
October 30th, 2012
9:23 am
The lies and cover-up are bad enough but the most frightening aspect of all of this is Jay and his left minnions who continue to support this failure of a POTUS. The USA can recover from this President’s far left agenda and attempts to destroy the economy and capitalism. The difficult thing to overcome is the ignorance of the Obama supporters.
Stop claiming the Generals agreed with Panetta. You know no such thing. The Generals speak and Panetta makes the decision. To leave Americans under attack for 7 hours without offering aid is unforgiveable. Air support was minutes, not hours away, and the failures are the administration and that is all there is to say.
Obama and his gang of trolls tried CYA for weeks and the more the Left cries about unrealistic attacks from the Right and “conspiracy”, the more foolish every Leftie who follows the company line begins to appear.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
9:23 am
William
October 30th, 2012
9:18 am
That’s right, Jay.
Who give a s**t about some Marines and an Ambassador when it’s re-electing the Obamanation that we’re really concerned with here…
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Not you apparently.
Those of us with calmer heads and better intellects do.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
9:23 am
trueblueeagle – “Those will not remember history will repeat its mistakes.”
So I guess you’re not a Romney supporter. Afterall, we certainly wouldn’t to repeat the mistake of invading a sovereign nation without provocation, now would we?
I get my news from Glenn Beck!
October 30th, 2012
9:24 am
“Obama is in very big trouble and he knows it. He turned Air Force One around and headed back to Washington yesterday morning the moment those early voting numbers were released.”
cc
October 30th, 2012
9:24 am
Option 3: Romney need say nothing about this incident: it speaks for itself.
Sources have stated that a request for a 130 gunship was made to take out the mortar being used against them. Even that was denied.
Serving your country now means that, under the Obama administration, you do so at your own peril and should expect no help in desperate situations.
It doesn’t matter how you ’spin it’, Bookman, you can’t justify Obama’s inactions.
DawgDad
October 30th, 2012
9:26 am
“Wake Up! Mitt was born rich and doesn’t give a damn about the middle class, poor, women, minorities, etc, etc.”
By all means, PLEASE keep encouraging people to vote for the candidate they most identify with!
Lee
October 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Butch, your numbers are comical. Please cite your source.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 30th, 2012
9:26 am
GM makes Jeep?
Heyward do you ever post anything with any accuracy? Chrysler manufacturers Jeep. Do you understand that they are not the same company?
Was that plant destroyed with that WI wedding party under a drone attack you claimed happened?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 30th, 2012
9:27 am
Let me predict, that the excellent Government response to Sandy – See comments from Bloomberg and Christie – will make the Banghazi chant even more shrill.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
9:27 am
Lee – “Butch, your numbers are comical. Please cite your source.”
Uhhhh…..did you not see the link posted directly above my comment?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 30th, 2012
9:27 am
INDIGO
Who is ignoring the deaths of our kids for no worthy reason? It’s just not relevant to the discussion of Benghazi…Bush is gone although you all immediately compare BO’s actions to the low bar set by Bush…doesn’t day much for your guy.
I’m not voting for either…to do so is a vote for things as usual in DC…
Craig Berlin
October 30th, 2012
9:28 am
“The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, ”
Where might that be? I’d be curious to see it. Not Brian WIlliams, that’s for sure. Not Candy Crowley. Who?
robroka
October 30th, 2012
9:28 am
Butch Cassidy—
Do you seriously think the President of the United States didn’t know exactly how bad the storm was going to be when he boarded the plane Sunday evening? Go look at the facts. Nothing changed regarding the storm predictions between Sunday evening and Monday morning. The models and the forecasts didn’t change starting Friday morning. The Friday Morning headline that caused me to start begging my mother to leave her southern New Jersey home and head south was “Worst Storm in 100 Years.” Was the President not paying attention until Monday morning?
The only thing that changed was the realease of those early voting numbers! Facts, sir… Just the facts. You are proving my point about liberals disregarding truth, facts, logic and reason.
DannyX
October 30th, 2012
9:30 am
“Jeep is shipping jobs overseas. They can produce them here and export, right?”
Sure, just like Toyota, Nissan, and all of the other foreign car makers producing cars here can do the same. They should pack up and leave, they can produce there and export here.
RIGHT????
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 30th, 2012
9:30 am
Romney lying about Jeep will cost him Ohio. That alone, will sink his ship.
on the sound of 3...
October 30th, 2012
9:30 am
RB from Gwinnett
October 30th, 2012
9:10 am
everyone….You is kind…You is smart…You is important….now everyone clap for the buffoon!!!
St Simons
October 30th, 2012
9:32 am
9,000 American parents that DONT HAVE THEIR CHILDREN anymore
because of the lyin treasonous neocon scum Little Nero with a Cowboy
Hat, and his Dick the VP –
Those parents would like a word with you out in the parking lot
behind the dumpster, you pompous con faux outrage chickenhawk
pieces of s…
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 30th, 2012
9:32 am
robroka – “Facts, sir… Just the facts. You are proving my point about liberals disregarding truth, facts, logic and reason.”
FACT – I’m not a Liberal.
FACT – It was well known that Obama had modified his campaign schedule in advance of the storm so that he could return to Washingtonm to monitor the damage.
FACT – Romney modified his campaign schedul as well due to the states thet were going to be affected by Sandy.
FACT – You make accusations and cast dispersions without actually having any FACTS.
Jet He
October 30th, 2012
9:33 am
Jay, remember Richard Nixon and Watergate. I guest that was just a break-in at a hotel. This is Obama’s lie gate and a US ambassador is dead along with 3 other Americans and you and the liberal think this is nothing to investigate. You should be fired for not doing your job, this is the ambassador to die since 1979 because of incompetence. Everyday more testimony comes out we find out how this president lied and coverup in Libya. Its not right wing rhetoric but the media not reporting the facts on Obama, this is the problem and a national tragedy. Basically this is why the news media is going down the toilet like the yesterdays food I ate. A bunch of ***P!!
indigo
October 30th, 2012
9:33 am
Stevie Ray – “I’m not voting for either”.
May I ask who you are voting for?
Ronald Reagan Parkway
October 30th, 2012
9:33 am
Where is HUH????
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 30th, 2012
9:34 am
Romney is still the 2-1 underdog with the gamblers.
http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/winner
mwuahahahahaha