Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself

Fox New anchors, right-wing websites and talk-radio hosts around the country are ginning up a wave of mass hysteria about the decision by the Obama administration not to attempt a military rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. (Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria. I kid you not.)

Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.

But I have a question.

According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?

Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.

Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.

Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.

As Defense Secretary Leon Panetta explained, “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”

That would be Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They are men of training and experience; they know where our military assets are located; they know their capabilities, and they know the difficulties involved in inserting and extracting an armed force into an uncertain situation in another country.

It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. But that is real life. This is not a Hollywood movie.

Here’s how Fox News reported the news above:

The most provocative piece of that report is the claim that a Special Forces team stationed at an air base in Signonella, Italy, two hours from Benghazi, was ready to intervene but orders were never given. But here’s how such mass hysteria gets fed by partial information, in both senses of the word “partial”. As it turned out, the Special Forces team in question was not based in Sigonella but had to be assembled and transported there from elsewhere in Europe.

“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”

Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor.

That makes no sense. It is such a ridiculous notion that in most eras it would never even be broached in public debate. But this is an era in which many are predisposed to believe the most ridiculous things if it justifies their hatred of Obama, and a time in which when emotions are heightened by a hard-fought presidential campaign. So nonsense reigns.

– Jay Bookman

1,207 comments Add your comment

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:08 pm

Recon 0311 2533 darn Italians own part……bad enough they are about spaghetti and Chianti !

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

Bummer for NY City…. Battery flooded, and the Village……. Subways have become submarines !

JamVet

October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

Interesting.

Lots of new Republican mystery meat bloggers tonight.

But in almost every case it’s the same teenage petulance pent up over four years of whining.

Oh well, opinions are like ________ and lots of ________ are desperately flocking here in the runup to their cowardly candidate’s defeat.

Better luck in 2016, neocons…

Thulsa Doom

October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

“I do feel the Republican’s are more the guys wanting the War machine to protect the American Corporations around the world…. more apt to use it.”

I won’t disagree with you on that Peter but why shouldn’t we protect the interests of our people, our companies, and our money.

Now if you were talking also about the military industrial complex I would agree with you on that. Republicans are way to eager to support military spending at all costs. The military and some weapons systems are going to have to be cut just like everything else.

Dum-Bass

October 29th, 2012
11:10 pm

I only have one question, Mr. Bookman. If it had been your son killed would you have written this article?

Recon 0311 2533

October 29th, 2012
11:11 pm

The automobile bailouts favored the unions and not the taxpayers. Romney was correct bankruptcy filings with government guarantees would have been the better course.

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:14 pm

The military and some weapons systems are going to have to be cut just like everything else.

I wish that was the case but really all in the Romney platform say the opposite that I can tell.

The 2 trillion for new ships was a campaign promise to the state of Virgina….never going to happen.

Patty

October 29th, 2012
11:15 pm

You know, I don’t watch Fox or MSNBC or main stream media, but I do read multiple newspapers including several international newspapers who are reporting on the attack. Reports of a US general coming forward to say that help was asked for but ignored, of the White House being aware of the situation and choosing not to act. Of course, the full story will never be released here in the states–might be too difficult for hacks like you to understand that the citizens of these United States might like the whole truth instead of whatever makes a good sound bite.

Recon 0311 2533

October 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

Y’all have a great evening…I’m out, taps

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:16 pm

I won’t disagree with you on that Peter but why shouldn’t we protect the interests of our people, our companies, and our money.

Well corporate profits are sky rocketing currently…..Corporate cash is at an all time high…..

Too bad they won’t pony up and pay for their own protection around the world……that is the corporate taxes folks talk about.

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:17 pm

The automobile bailouts favored the unions and not the taxpayers.

All about jobs……

United Socialist States of Obama

October 29th, 2012
11:18 pm

Communists/Socialists will defend other Communists/Socialists until the very end, no matter what the truth is

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 29th, 2012
11:18 pm

Dum-Bass:

“I only have one question, Mr. Bookman. If it had been your son killed would you have written this article?”

Of course he wouldn’t have.

Say a prayer tonight for the folks in the path of the storm !

TAPS !

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:19 pm

United Socialist States of Obama …. yes and war mongers will protect war mongering to the end.

globeflyer

October 29th, 2012
11:19 pm

Similar to what we had to endure when Bush was in office (only different): “People died, Obama lied”.

Thulsa Doom

October 29th, 2012
11:21 pm

“Too bad they won’t pony up and pay for their own protection around the world……that is the corporate taxes folks talk about.”

They do pony up. Its called taxes and multinationals like Coke, UPS, caterpillar, and on and on pay a crapload of taxes as do their employees.

OedipusTax

October 29th, 2012
11:22 pm

Jay Bookman epitomizes the illness of today’s liberalism. The four dead Americans are just playthings for him. He couldn’t give a damn one way or the other. He will return to his office, feed his huge ego, and continue his feelings of judgment and superiority versus average Americans. That’s just like Obama. Today’s liberals, you see, don’t give a damn about their fellow man. They couldn’t care less about the dead Americans. Ignore them. Trash them. Call them fools. Jay Bookman would dance of their graves without the slightest reservations if it would elect Obama.

ODD OWL

October 29th, 2012
11:22 pm

Ayn Rand… Romney/Ryan are habitual, pathological fibbers… Liars surrender their reality to the people they lie to… Romney/Ryan are sadly, out of touch with reality…

John

October 29th, 2012
11:29 pm

Maybe the president was trying to hold off so he would not kill more of our troops or a bunch of people that were protesting around the embassy .That would just upset many more countries and cause even more blood shed .

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:30 pm

They do pony up. Its called taxes and multinationals like Coke, UPS, caterpillar, and on and on pay a crapload of taxes as do their employees.

Really ? How about all tax payers……Corporations are getting away with murder.

there would be much less taxes on them, if the US wasn’t putting 40 % of all money collected into the military……. No country in the world spends like we do on the Military complex, thus in allot of other countries the corporate taxes are lower.

Peter

October 29th, 2012
11:32 pm

The four dead Americans are just playthings for him. REALLY OedipusTaxA ?

THAT WAS A REALLY DUMB COMMENT.

When did you lose your empathy for your fellow American ?

OedipusTax

October 29th, 2012
11:33 pm

An honorable Navy Seal fought for seven hours, seven hours, on his own, before he was killed by a mortar while attempting to use a laser to target the mortar. Instead, no missle appeared, and the Navy Seal died. Now if that was Jay Bookman’s son, he might have a diffrerent opinion. Instead, he will call any criticism of that needless death to be “right wing hysteria.” So easy for Jay to pontificate. So easy for Jay to dismiss life so carelessly. What does he care? Military for Hillary and Obama are drivers and butlers, nothing more. They are angry retards to them, and to Jay. So one dies, or a dozen, who cares? They asked for it. And the AJC would rather cover a rap star’s broken toenail before they’ll cover a story that they’d never shut up about if it was Bush. Hypocrisy and Jay Bookman is a redundancy.

Thulsa Doom

October 29th, 2012
11:39 pm

“How about all tax payers……Corporations are getting away with murder.”

Peter,

As we all know 47% of us don’t even pay taxes outside of FICA. And how exactly are corporations getting away with murder? Ya looked at a gallon of gas lately Peter? Oil companies make about an 8% profit margin and that’s it. The govt makes more money off a gallon of gas then the oil companies. Your blanket statement that corps are getting away with murder is nothing short of absurd.

“there would be much less taxes on them, if the US wasn’t putting 40 % of all money collected into the military……. No country in the world spends like we do on the Military complex, thus in allot of other countries the corporate taxes are lower.”

How does 40% of all tax revenue go to the military if the entitlement programs chew up about 60% all by themselves? Can you back up that assertion with a link?

MC

October 29th, 2012
11:50 pm

Jay, you are a freaking moron. American lives were lost and you are trivializing what happened. Stick your head up o’s arse and keep believing that pos!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Let’s see where that gets you. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gmare

October 29th, 2012
11:51 pm

You are welcome, Fred. And now I am out, too. It’s way too scary here tonight.

plcombs

October 29th, 2012
11:52 pm

Its fairly obvious, judging by the above article Mr. Bookman knows pretty much ZERO about Chain of Command or how these decision’s are made, he would do best trying another line of analysis.

First Leon Panetta’s comment “without having some real-time information about what’s taking place.” has been torn to shreds by both the State Department and CIA and eyewitnesses and reports from the CIA Station Chief in Libya.

They in fact had Live Video feeds from Camera’s on the ground at both the Consulate and the Safe House, inside and out, they had full visual unarmed drone camera’s over head using a total of two drones during the attack, additionally they had constant uninterrupted radio communications in real time as well with 2 of the four men killed defending the Consulate and Safe house. They also had full communications with the CIA Station Chief.

These feeds were all fed directly to the Situation Room at the WHite House, State Department and CIA simultaneously via the NSA and CIA. Exactly as it was done during the OBL raid in Pakistan. Its standard procedure during an “event”.
Leon Panetta gave the order to “stand down” by all accounts, which means someone gave the “go order” first. If someone gave the “go order” then one or both of the generals mentioned by Mr. Bookman authorized it or someone of equal rank.

Before writing such drivel, I would suggest Mr. Bookman do a little homework

DawgDad

October 30th, 2012
12:22 am

Leave it to Jay Bookman to turn a deadly serious issue into a name-calling feeding frenzy for his left-wing minions. Epically Tucker-esque.

A lot of questions need to be answered about Benghazi and the Administration’s deplorable behavior in the aftermath. I watched Hillary Clinton stand in front of the victims’ coffins at the memorial service and lie to the world. I saw clips of Carney lying to the world, Susan Rice lying, and lying in official proceedings of the U.N. Paneta – who knows at this point?

What about the Embassy security? In the absence of adequate LIBYAN security you have to assume you’re operating in a war zone, right? Well, any sane person would. We’ve had the Iranian hostage crisis in the Carter Presidency, the Marine Barracks in Beirut, Embassy attacks in African nations, the Cole, 9/11, just to name the obvious ones. We are having serious issues with enemy infiltrations in Afghanistan. The Muslim Brotherhood is taking over Egypt, and Muslim extremists are stirring up trouble in neighboring Libya, Syria, and elsewhere. It was the anniversary of 9/11, and the Al-QuadaThe Administration couldn’t have a clearer picture painted for them if it was paint-by-numbers.

Concerns about Libyan sovereignty??? What a joke. We bombed the heck out of them under the guise of NATO and now we probably have drones overhead 24/7. So much for the sovereignty charade.

Something was tragically amiss in Benghazi, whether ideological hubris, gun-running, undercover shenannigans, or outright treachary. Americans and the World deserve answers, not intelligence-insulting lies.

Wendy

October 30th, 2012
12:47 am

There are many unanswered questions about security before this happened, what happened during the attack, and the cover up afterwards, but Obama chooses not to answer them. Why doesn’t he have a press conference instead of going on The View, Letterman Leno, etc. Sounds like he doesn’ like the tough questions. Why wasn’t Ambassador Stevens request for additional security approved? They just wanted Col Woods and his 16 man team to remain in Libya. You would think since the consulate had been attached twice before, and the British Ambassador and Red Cross had been attacked and withdrawn from Libya, this would be a valid request. Does the date 09/11 not mean anything to this President? And of course the big question is why they did not want Tyrone Woods to go and help the Ambassador. If his first request have been approved, Amb Stevens may still be alive. This attack lasted over 7 hours, that seems to be enough time to get some help to the ones at the CIA compound. My god, they had lasers trained on the targets, they could have been shot at from a plane. And then of course, why the heck was this all blamed on a spontaneous reaction to a video for days after when they knew all along this was a planned attack. I think this President did not was to admit terrorism is alive and well. It burns me up that this President cares more about his political career than saving the Americans he is supposed to protect. Call it hysteria if you want, but I want answers.

getalife

October 30th, 2012
12:52 am

Cons are tin foil hat kooks

Dawg Reporter

October 30th, 2012
12:55 am

Nothing more than big media criticizing big media while trying to position the “stories” for political gain for either Obama or Romney.

Let’s move on already….

Ken

October 30th, 2012
1:00 am

Jay, the water is getting heavy for you.

Ken

October 30th, 2012
1:03 am

GALLUP: ROMNEY UP 52%-45% AMONG EARLY VOTERS…

Fred ™

October 30th, 2012
1:12 am

Gee Wendy, it’s considered good manners that when you copy paste something you give credit to who you stole it from…….

The Thin Guy

October 30th, 2012
1:59 am

Despite the best efforts of the lap dog, left wing, lame stream, blatant, mendacious, lunatic propagandists for The Evil Current Regime, Benghazigate is becoming unwrapped faster than Sandra Fluke at a fraternity party. After the murder of the ambassador and three members of his staff The Regime’s first lie is that it was caused by a movie. Lassie Come Home? Ernest Saves Christmas? Fatima Does Medina? After that lie became inoperative we were told that it was a meticulously planned terrorists attack by irate Mooslums who were livid because their cable system doesn’t get the goat porn channel. But The Regime had no idea that there was any danger so ØDumbø played golf. After that lie became inoperative we have learned that he watched it all on live tv and refused help because it would tarnish his image as The Great Peace Maker who eliminated terrorism from the world and the English and Kenyan language. Four Americans were slaughtered to protect Jug Ears’ image. So The Indonesian Imbecile is not just guilty of negligent homicide but premeditated murder. The First Fool is a vile, despicable excuse for a human being and if there were any justice in this life he should be drug from The White House in chains and thrown into the dankest cell in Gitmo with nothing to read but Bookman’s Blog.

Nikki

October 30th, 2012
2:30 am

Hysteria? really? that is what you call it when four Americans are killed one being and Ambassador and answers change on a daily basis and stonewalling occurs. Why don’t you tell the father of the ex Navy Seal to his face that this is hysteria, you ignorant idiot. I’m no longer on the fence about my vote, I guess because I’m a black woman the kool-aid drinkers will call be a traitor. Let it be your child, who was killed and I bet you would be on the White House steps every single day until you got answers. Unbelievable, the media is a joke and journalism is dead.

Richard Loyal French

October 30th, 2012
3:37 am

President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.”
It is becoming increasingly clear that the one responsible.. is OBAMA.

“”But the very fact that the White House and the administration have been reluctant to provide this information (and, indeed, seem to be passing the buck on who did what and when) raises another possibility: that the president was not carrying out his responsibilities as commander in chief. Yet whether distracted by the upcoming election, calls to the Israeli prime minister, or prepping for a fundraiser the next day in Las Vegas, presidents don’t get to delegate that power, even to a secretary of defense. So, the night of September 11 comes down to this: was the president in charge—or not? The Constitution makes it clear, he must be.”" — GARY SCHMITT

If Obama was NOT in-Charge… then Obama trashed his duties and His Oath of Office.
If Obama WAS in-Charge… Obama turned his back on our Navy Seals and our Ambassador… and let them DIE at the hands of our Enemies.

Either Way.. it is Treasonous.

ha

October 30th, 2012
4:42 am

“what about when Bush was president, what about when Bush was president” You whiney liberal twits, all you can do is divert attention to something else. You are a product of your upbringing, no responsibility or accountability. People are trying to find truth and all of you partisan a$$hats are arguing over dead bodies.

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
6:01 am

Here’s how Fox News reported the news above

“Report” really isn’t the verb you want there, Jay.

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
6:04 am

The main thing to remember about this “scandal” is that there’s an element within conservative politics that can never, ever get enough of scary-muslim stories. It’s some kind of addiction, I think, fueled in no small part by their fundamentalist belief system.

Ol' TImer

October 30th, 2012
6:08 am

Chicken-hawks in government and the right wing media would have done military heroics — except they were to “chicken” to serve in the first place.

You know, I’ve heard more criticism over the unfortunate loss of these four lives than I did over the bombing of the marine barracks in Beirut where 235 marines and sailors lost their lives. Of course, Reagan was in the Oval Office then and he could do no wrong.

As a matter of fact, after the attack on the marine barracks, Reagan did not retaliate saying he could not accurately identify who was responsible — and he got a pass.

And, so it goes. . . . .

Ebird

October 30th, 2012
6:29 am

Jay, nice distraction by focusing on right wing extreme claims. The real question is why was the president going with the “riot based on a video” lie for over a week when he clearly knew otherwise?

Aquagirl

October 30th, 2012
6:36 am

They in fact had Live Video feeds from Camera’s on the ground at both the Consulate and the Safe House, inside and out, they had full visual unarmed drone camera’s over head using a total of two drones during the attack, additionally they had constant uninterrupted radio communications in real time as well with 2 of the four men killed defending the Consulate and Safe house. They also had full communications with the CIA Station Chief.

These feeds were all fed directly to the Situation Room at the WHite House, State Department and CIA simultaneously via the NSA and CIA. Exactly as it was done during the OBL raid in Pakistan. Its standard procedure during an “event”.

Honey, you need pills and a permanent disconnect from the internet. If you fancy yourself in possession of all this knowledge you have my pity.

Please get help.

Big Dog 89

October 30th, 2012
6:38 am

garyk

October 30th, 2012
6:40 am

October 29, 2012, Washington Times: “General Carter F. Ham, the Combatant Commander of Africa Command (AFRICOM) and a key figure in the Benghazi-gate controversy, is leaving the Army. On October 18, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta had announced that General Ham would be succeeded at AFRICOM by General David Rodriguez. Later speculation tied this decision to the fallout from the September 11, 2012 attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.”

garyk

October 30th, 2012
6:44 am

October 30, 2012, New York Post: “Charles Woods is the invisible man. Indeed, the father of former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods — slain this past Sept. 11 while trying to defend Ambassador Chris Stevens and others under terrorist attack at the US consulate in Benghazi, Libya — was nowhere to be seen on the many Sunday morning TV talk shows.”

“As a matter of fact, you’d have been hard put to even hear the word “Benghazi” mentioned at all on those same programs. And when it was, it was invariably raised by Republicans — and just as quickly shot down by most of the allegedly unbiased moderators. “Charlie Woods? Who’s he?”

“But he’s the fellow who’s been asking some pretty pointed questions of this administration about the circumstances surrounding his son’s murder. He doesn’t accept the excuses being offered by everyone from the president on down.”

“Woods’ misfortune is that his son was killed under a Democratic administration. And it’s considered neither polite nor acceptable to question the competence of Democrats — especially this Democrat.”

Fire Them ALL!

October 30th, 2012
6:45 am

“and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty”????? You have got to be kidding me Jay Bookman!!!! Where was the concern for “violating another country’s sovereignty when we went and killed (rightfully so) the SOB Bin Laden – unannounced !!” Quit making this about politics!!! That is what Romney is trying to do. He made his thoughts known that we should never – ever reject the safety of our Americans overseas – AND HE WAS RIGHT!! Now he has moved on and is NOT PERSONALIZING THIS. Look, I voted for Obama – but he does NEED TO BE IMPEACHED!! over this – and Hillary needs to go too!! It is not personal, not political – it just is that they ALL FAILED our precious Americans over there!!

Attacking any U. S. Embassy is considered to be an “act of war.” That is hallowed ground.

#1: We assisted the Libyans in overthrowing their government.
#2: Our Pres & Hillary greatly erred in not “infusing themselves” with knowledge about what was going on over there – or else they did and did not care – I prefer to choose the former. Either way they were STUPID.
#3: Do you think the Libyans guarding the outside of that compound could have been infiltrated???? Of course they could and they were.
#4: We only had FIVE – count them – FIVE security personnel there “guarding” our Ambassador and others. Heck, after assisting to overthrow that government we should have had much more – and yes – PLENTY of our security “on the outside of that compound.”
#5: Ambassador Stephens and others months before this happened pleaded for more security “AND WERE TURNED DOWN!!”
#6: Panetta on up should be fired, IMPEACHED, etc. for this dreadful happening.
#7: How would you like to know that YOUR SON was on a roof top for 7 hours calling for help – NOT GETTING IT – and gave his life defending others for 7 hours to no avail?????
#8: Yes – the British pulled out because the situation in Benghazi was “UNSTABLE.”

WONDER WHERE WE WOULD ALL BE TODAY IF, GOLLY, DURING WORLD WAR II WE NEVER WENT AND ASSISTED OUR SOLDIERS, OR AMERICANS, BECAUSE WE DIDN’T KNOW “EXACTLY” WHAT WAS GOING ON IN EACH AND EVERY SITUATION AND JUST “LET THEM DIE!!!!”

#9: THEY KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON AND DID NOT ASSIST THESE PRECIOUS MEN!!!!

“and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty”????? GO SELL THAT BUNK ELSEWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GuyWritingThis

October 30th, 2012
6:48 am

Are these the same military advisors that Obama frequently ignores?

Aquagirl

October 30th, 2012
6:50 am

Lordy. Jay is right, this is really bringing out the fruitcakes in a froth.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
6:56 am

The behavior of the right wing in this matter is beyond shameful.

Party before country, and it’s sick.

The House GOP outed an undercover CIA operation in Libya – that’s treason.

After the election lets hope President Obama investigates the GOP response.

(and that meth lab full of republican dossiers too!)

marko

October 30th, 2012
7:00 am

Fox News, de facto wing of the republican party seems to be doing it’s best to engineer a pre-election crisis. What a shock.

JH

October 30th, 2012
7:05 am

JAY – Option #3 – just like the chicago political slime machine. Romney will let all the others make the noise for him.

Travis McGee

October 30th, 2012
7:13 am

Some of those posting on this blog obviously took PE instead of Critical Thinking.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:16 am

The truth! Cons cannot handle the truth. You want the truth!. Okay. Are you ready? The truth is… wait. What’s that noise. What is that, up in the sky. Is that a drone…

Nope. False alarm. That’s just George Bush out scaring the neighborhood kids in his Cessna. GEORGE!!!! (Shaking fist at fool in plane.)

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
7:17 am

October 29, 2012, Washington Times:

This blog needs a laugh track.

Mitt the Twit

October 30th, 2012
7:18 am

THe real question is: How much did Romney’s moneymen pay the terrorists to attack a U.S. embassy and kill Americans?

bob

October 30th, 2012
7:19 am

Hey nutjob rightys, the guy the made the video is in jail now. According to the dead seals dad, Hillary promised him the admin would get the producer of the video. This admin did everything they could. They blamed it on a video and arrested the guy that made it. What else could they have done since we all know this was the result of a video.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:19 am

Sheldon Adelson is settling out of court. What a shocker. What does laundered money look like anyway.

Doggone/GA

October 30th, 2012
7:20 am

” They blamed it on a video and arrested the guy that made it”

No, they didn’t. He was arrested because he violated his parole. “They” had nothing to do with that.

AU Liberal in ATL

October 30th, 2012
7:21 am

This is no longer a story about Benghazi, terrorism, security, or even dead diplomats. It’s a story about the radical right wing trying to come up with something they can use against The President of the United States. People make up their own “facts” and level illogical, uninformed criticisms at the administration for one reason and one reason only. I’m right and you know it, Joseph, RB, etc, etc, etc.

FIRE THEM ALL

October 30th, 2012
7:22 am

Fruitcakes is right “Aquagirl” !!!!!! How any American can not know that we were all lied to from the get go is imaginable. Having voted for Obama I am dreadfully let down in this so called “President.”

I do not wish to have any President – Democrat or Republican – that flies on the wings of “our heros” yet fails to protect them!!!!! Perhaps if he attended all of those foreign affairs briefings every a.m. instead of missing 60% + of them he would have been better off!! Also, I am appalled that he flew to VEGAS the next a.m. after this happened for “his political fundraising rally!” THIS IS NOT A PRESIDENT I WANT IN OFFICE – DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN!!!

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:24 am

Mitt Romney did what! He used an uncharitable trust fund that the IRS banned in order to scam the government out of taxes! NO! Tell me it ain’t so! After all, what’s one more lie from that con, Mitt.

Guido

October 30th, 2012
7:24 am

Jay, downplaying this story is precisely what Obama did, and that’s why is has grown legs. Throwing Hillary under the bus and abandoning all responsibility isn’t very presidential.

Mick

October 30th, 2012
7:24 am

Yes, the conned have jumped the shark on this one…but….but…four dead americans! As if the president and state dept. were assisting the tragedy in real time. Monday morning quarterbacking insanity…

MadMax

October 30th, 2012
7:27 am

Granny,

The behavior of the president was shameful. He was aware that an attack had been made on our embassy and that it was under seige, yet he continued on with his campaign activities. Part of his job is commander in chief and that is a 24×7 job, no breaks no matter what else is scheduled. He likes to tell everyone how he was in the situation room with all his advisors when our forces took out OBL. Why in Gods name did he not give this the same attention. The seige went on for 7 hours yet he chose to go to Las Vegas for his fund raising. He put his fundraising as a higher priority than the lives of those 4 men. Then he and his administration decided to hide behind a made up story about this being caused by a mob gone wild because of an obscure video. And don’t give me the party line of that was the best intelligence we had (as noted in Jay’s column, the CIA was told to stand down and let those men die) as we had drones in the area recording the events. Somebody had to be reviewing that and must have come to the conclusion that it was not a mob gone wild and that the attack was deadly. Somebody must have relayed that information up the chain of command and that should not have taken days to get the facts straight. Either this administration is completely inept at handling an emergency of this nature or they are covering the presidents arse because he made a very poor decision to continue on wth his fundraising plans. Both scenarios speak poorly for the president and if it is the later, then it is eeriely similar to Watergate. It was not the act that brought down Nixon, it was the coverup.

Aquagirl

October 30th, 2012
7:30 am

as we had drones in the area recording the events.

Ah, another Tom Clancy armchair spy. Just what ‘Merica needs.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:31 am

Does all this lunacy from the right wingnuts about Benghazi mean that the cons finally believe that Obama is a legal citizen of the United States and is qualified per the U.S. Constitution to hold the Office of the President of the United States. After four years, finally, will Orly Taitz and Donald Trump be put out to pasture. Or do the conned think that his true birth certificate was hidden in Benghazi in a secret room in the embassy and terrorists broke in and retrieved it to keep it from prying eyes. Is that it. Uh Oh. Here we go again with the birther conspiracies from the conned.

Mick

October 30th, 2012
7:31 am

max & co

I can only hope that you were just as outraged about all the wasted blood and treasure of the iraqi misadventure???

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:33 am

FIRE THEM ALL

Shame on you.

Putting your own desire to hurt the President above the security of this nation.

It is time to investigate the GOP opposition. Starting from the inaugural day meeting. Subversion from day 1.

Brosephus™

October 30th, 2012
7:33 am

Despite the best efforts of the lap dog, left wing, lame stream, blatant, mendacious, lunatic propagandists for The Evil Current Regime, Benghazigate is becoming unwrapped faster than Sandra Fluke at a fraternity party.

Given the overhyped focus on Sandra Fluke’s sexuality by the loony right, that probably accurately portrays the same loony right’s focus on something that is completely different, in reality, from what they perceive.

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
7:35 am

Having voted for Obama

[...]

I am appalled that he flew to VEGAS the next a.m. after this happened

Thank you for your concern.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:37 am

MadMax

You are simply full of it.

Another GOP subversive.

Party over country.

It makes me ill.

MadMax

October 30th, 2012
7:37 am

Aquagirl, you have seen the clarity of pictures from those drones so yes they provide a level of detail that would allow for an assessment of the circumstances. Why not address the issue – the president screwed up.

Taxpayer, nice try at deflection but you are not addressing the situation. Our president screwed up. Hillary was right, “Who do you want answering the phone at 2 am?”

Mick, yes!

Georgia

October 30th, 2012
7:38 am

Was Valerie Plame ever involved in CIA ops in Libya? When Cheney had her outed, many spies and double agents were outed with her, and those folks are sleeping with the fishes now. That left a vacuum, and who knows what hybrid double agent mutations are in there now.

The lesson of Benghazi is that the war on terror has entered a new phase. Now the enemy is any militia that’s around. There was a huge armory in Iraq when we went in. We didn’t secure it, and when someone finally checked it out, it was empty. Literally thousands of weapons with tons of ammo. We didn’t secure Iraq’s borders then either, so they easily made it to Syria and beyond. Is that how we’ve armed all the current militias? With those exact weapons? That was the beginning of our war on terror. This new phase of war is not the end of the beginning. It’s not even the beginning of the end of the beginning, indeed, it is rather the middle of the end of our national denial that we’re even in a war.

Oh, we’re in a war.

MadMax

October 30th, 2012
7:42 am

Granny, when you get out of your state of denial and take off the Obama love fest glasses, tell me what part of my post “is full of it”. By your response I take it you have no answers why this president flew to Vegas. I guess he believed the ads, What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas!

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 30th, 2012
7:42 am

Good morning all y’all.

I’ve been reading and watching this Benghazi thing and I don’t know why, once it was ascertained to be a terror attack, they did not come out and report it, but I do know that there was no time line in which they could have mounted a raid to save the men killed. Without proper mission planning, and getting resources in place, all that would happen is thet we would have thrown more lives away. I heard that the terrorists attacked with upwards of 200 men. If that is true that is approximately two companies. To rescue anybody from that kind of force would have meant an invasion force of three times that number. Just to send in a S.E.A.L. team would have been suicidal. It would have ended the same way that president Carter’s attempt to rescue the Iran Embassy hostages ended. Wouldn’t the right wing have loved that?

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:43 am

Deflection. You can’t handle deflection, con. Watch this.

“Saddam has wmds.” Look at you right wingnuts wee wee all over yourselves.

And this one.

“Mission Accomplished.” :lol: Republicans still swoon when they hear that line.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:43 am

wmds. greet us as liberators. 6 days, 6 weeks.
socialist. kenyan. whitey tape.
jeep plant. benghazi

http://mediamatters.org/search/index?qstring=benghazi

the pattern is ongoing and obvious.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:45 am

Al Jazerra had the same live feed that President Obama did. Too bad cons forgot to push the record button.

Skip

October 30th, 2012
7:45 am

How many spam bloggers can a site handle before it crashes?

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:46 am

MadMax

Sickly it is you who accessorize with Obama hate fest specs, Mr. Silly Britches.

And they make you look subversive.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:47 am

MadMax

October 30th, 2012
7:48 am

Whole lot of fog coming up from the lefties this morning. Just like the administration, no answers, just fog.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:49 am

Romney was at least smart enough to give up this disgusting line of attack.

His most rabid supporters….just aren’t that smart.

Aquagirl

October 30th, 2012
7:50 am

tell me what part of my post “is full of it”.

The entire thing.

It’s like you’re in your very first bar fight and decided you know how to whoop @$$ because you’ve watched every single Jackie Chan movie.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
7:51 am

Fog, Mad Max?

No.

Right wing flatulance.

AS the serious GOP thinkers back away from this, some of you are just eating this up and it’s noxious.

Bubber in Decatur

October 30th, 2012
7:51 am

So, this goofy bunch of right-wingnut loons want to hang something on that “Evil Socialist, Obama.”
Thus they seize on a situation (Libya) in which thoughtful persons, including — occasionally — Republicans, assess the situation and evaluate alternatives, including the possible use of military intervention.
And, when the military say “…we need more information before we send our people into harm’s way,” these thoughtful people hold back until all the facts are known. And that’s a sensible course, which was followed by the President.
Of course, we once had a Republican President (the last one, the one whose name is never spoken by the GOP right now during election season, but whose hair-trigger neocon advisors are alive and well, and advising Romney on foreign policy). That President plunged us into an eight-year war, which resulted in dead and maimed American fighting fighing men and women, our country’s name and honor being disgraced in the eyes of the world, and a wrecked economy.
And, it was a war based on nothing more than a lie about “weapons of mass destruction” that of course were never found….But that’s okay as far as the lying rightwing talking heads are concerned. All of which far exceeds this fabricated “crisis” they are foisting on the nation a week or so before the election.

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:52 am

Someone said the code word, “WAR”, in front of Mitt and the next thing they knew, he was in line at the airport waiting to board a plane to France. He was heard mumbling something about being on a mission to save the French from the horrors of a bordeaux.

alex

October 30th, 2012
7:53 am

Jay, Loons everywhere; the president is responsible only so far as “the fish stinks from the head”m ( and I,m looking for the resignation of the CEO of the Honda corporation because my accord shifter got stuck this morning)… What we all have to remind ourselves are that the Mathews and Beck’s of the world have become entertainers to their respective viewers.The more presss you give them , only serves to embolden them more… After all, the MATURE observer will tune out the loud obnoxious person in favor of the reasoned interpreter of events, right???

Your attention only gives them a louder voice, that’s why we read you JAY, so reasoned, moderate,an even handed approach, a believer in “2 sides to every story” LOOK, there’s a banana in the sky…………….

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
7:55 am

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
7:55 am

Did someone mention Carter?

Apparently Brandeis U. owes him an apology.

In 2007, Jimmy Carter’s book Palestine: Peace, not Apartheid created a firestorm of controversy. Brandeis University initially said it would only allow Carter to speak on the book on campus if he would debate gadfly apologist Alan Dershowitz. Carter stood his ground and eventually did speak on campus, but many in this audience were distinctly cool to him.

A new poll of Israelis, however, finds that a majority of them believes that there is some or a lot of Apartheid in Israel.

[...]

About a third of Jewish Israelis want to denaturalize Israeli Arabs, depriving them of the right to vote. Nearly half (47%) want some of these Israeli citizens to be ethnically cleansed from Israel and ‘transferred’ to the West Bank, though, confusingly, 38% want to annex the West Bank to Israel altogether. If that happened, though, 69% say that they would oppose giving citizenship to the 2.5 million Palestinians who live there.

(Honestly, when I first heard of that poll, I didn’t want to believe it. I still don’t; I hope there will be others that can tease out the real attitudes of Israelis and show that they haven’t gone as horrifically cynical as that poll would indicate. But yeah–Jimmy Carter is most definitely owed an apology.)

G dog

October 30th, 2012
7:58 am

You wanna talk hysteria, that was the media and left over the bush valarie plame non “outing”. That bs hysteria went on for months. Did anyone die in that Jay? How about Watergate? Anyone die?
Benghazi was a massive failure by this admin AND people DIED. Are you watching the father of Tyrone tell his side. No, you listen to some lying bozo on msnbc saying the same bs you are. The facts and evidence show this was a massive coverup. Blame the video!! Yes keep wallowing in your own feces jay. That’s what you libs do best.
Oh btw, you can write also where chrysler is moving their Jeep production overseas. That’s like the 25th majot company doing that that received gov’t tax $. And obama talks about foreign jobs. Hahaha. You can’t make this bs up.

RationalThoughts

October 30th, 2012
7:59 am

Ok. Never posted on here before, but this is going waayyy too far. Tragedy happened. No doubt. And lapses in judgement were made. No doubt. And time will tell what, if anything, could have been done different.
Now, I have read countless posts saying “why didnt he mobilize” or “why did he wait to get in there” and even “he should have known and beefed up security”….but NO ONE (okay, i only had time for 3 pages of this..not the 9) has mentioned that the President, in 2011 AND 2012 asked for more funding for security at embassies worldwide….and guess what?????? The Republicans in Congress cut that amount by $128 million in 2011 and $331 million in 2012….so cool it with the whole “he should have seen this coming…HE DID! But once again, anything the President asks for, is immediately shot down by the other side….

ideasbm

October 30th, 2012
7:59 am

Funny Bookman. I bet you did not have the same comments about Watergate. No one died in that fiasco. I bet if it was your son because of the incompetence shown by this president and state department, you would have pressed it to high heaven. Excuse me, you liberals do not believe in heaven do you. What a fruitcake you are.

MadMax

October 30th, 2012
8:01 am

Aquagirl, So you believe the president was right to continue with his campaign when an American station was being attacked or are you saying he didn’t go to Vegas? Do you believe Joe Biden when he says the reason for the confusion and seemingly conflicting information is that our intelligence was flawed or do you believe the Joe Biden who says Iran doesn’t have the capability to deliver a bomb because our intelligence tells us so?

TaxPayer

October 30th, 2012
8:02 am

And don’t worry about the weather, cons. You know those computer models cannot be trusted. Trust your faith-based science.

Georgia

October 30th, 2012
8:03 am

The actually copy of “My Pet Goat” that W read when 911 broke, just sold on Ebay for $5K. The sword Hillary fell on after the Benghazi 911 is still being auctioned. The Ginzu Knives that Ann Romney had to settle for when she first got married haven’t appeared yet on Ebay.

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
8:03 am

In today’s episode of Mass Amnesia Theater, we heard:

Watergate. No one died in that fiasco.

[...]

How about Watergate? Anyone die?

Yes. All the people who were slaughtered in SE Asia by the guy who had a secret plan to “end the war.” Had Nixon not been re-elected, and had McGovern won, we would’ve had an orderly withdrawal of our occupying forces, not a long, drawn out series of last bomber-f##ks-for-the-road.

That’s just water under the bridge though, right?

G dog

October 30th, 2012
8:04 am

It’s also telling and sad that the first person obama talked to after word of the attack was axelrod. Not Panetta or any general on the ground. And what does he do after? Goes campaigning to Vegas. You can’t make this bs up. And you libs are a hypocritical joke if you think if a repub did the same thing, that “your” media wouldn’t be chastising him nonstop. Of course! We saw it from 00-08 and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this bs with the lousiest president ever.
1.4 trillion $ deficits every year!! But he promised to cut it in half!!How come he didn’t? Cause his policies were a friggin disaster!!

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 30th, 2012
8:04 am

G Dog

Did anyone die?

Outing Valerie Blame and Brewster Jennings…..

Probably.

But we’ll never know, as it might put more assets at risk.

stands for decibels

October 30th, 2012
8:05 am

hmm. Had Obama gone to Cleveland rather than Las Vegas, would you Butthurt Over Benghazi Bridgaders be appreciably less butthurt?