Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself
Fox New anchors, right-wing websites and talk-radio hosts around the country are ginning up a wave of mass hysteria about the decision by the Obama administration not to attempt a military rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. (Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria. I kid you not.)
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.
But I have a question.
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.
As Defense Secretary Leon Panetta explained, “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
That would be Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They are men of training and experience; they know where our military assets are located; they know their capabilities, and they know the difficulties involved in inserting and extracting an armed force into an uncertain situation in another country.
It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. But that is real life. This is not a Hollywood movie.
Here’s how Fox News reported the news above:
The most provocative piece of that report is the claim that a Special Forces team stationed at an air base in Signonella, Italy, two hours from Benghazi, was ready to intervene but orders were never given. But here’s how such mass hysteria gets fed by partial information, in both senses of the word “partial”. As it turned out, the Special Forces team in question was not based in Sigonella but had to be assembled and transported there from elsewhere in Europe.
“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”
Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor.
That makes no sense. It is such a ridiculous notion that in most eras it would never even be broached in public debate. But this is an era in which many are predisposed to believe the most ridiculous things if it justifies their hatred of Obama, and a time in which when emotions are heightened by a hard-fought presidential campaign. So nonsense reigns.
– Jay Bookman
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plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
I read a comment that says it all. “When Obama needed the SEALs the SEALs risked their lives and when the SEALs needed Obama he watched the SEALs DIE.”
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
“Whether you see it or not it was really good!”
That would be a first, but don’t care whether I actually see it or not.
Just saying
Pizzaman
October 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
Jay,
I didn’t read any comments except the one I see from Joseph at 8:27 PM. Joseph states that the President “watched the attack in real time”. And Joseph you know this how? Were you actually there to see the live feed? What else can you expect from those who hate the President so much that they will “create” anything.
Joseph I personally know General Ham and if he says a rescue wasn’t possible then a rescue wasn’t possible. So continue to spew your venom. Nobody with a brain take’s Beck, Limbaugh or any other Obama hating talking head seriously. But I seriously hope Willard doesn’t win. He’ll make bush/cheny look like saint’s.
Vote early, vote often. Ignore republican voter ID, vote absentee.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
“He STILL can’t call them TERRORISTS.”
It wouldn’t be nice of Obama or politically correct for that matter to call them terrorists.What Obama should have called them is man made disaster enablers.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Just to torture you jarhead cut and runners
Sorry but Marine Corps Vets don’t pay much attention to you…maybe you can do better with bus drivers.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Whether you see it or not it was really good!
Don’t really care to hear your repeated pillow talk to your wife.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Whichever regular posted this article on that site Bookman found, didn’t know that all the additional hits would not hurt AJC or Bookman at all………
Too funny
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Muslim Sympathizer means that you have an affinity for the view of the Muslims more than the country of which you are the President. As witnessed by apologies and appeasement to that particular group of people instead of standing up for America. Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism and it shows in our foreign policy. The history of our nation with respect to other nations is not perfect, but we damn sure don’t owe an apology to people who have murdered Americans and continue to do so. I don’t need a cowboy president but it would be nice to have one with some balls.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
So out of 300 million Americans pizzaman just happens to personally know this General Ham. Sure ya do.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Liberal Pariah
Thanks for the response. Do all Muslims think alike?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Hmmmm….. Del brings up Cindy Sheehan. Meanwhile over at FreeRepublic:
Sure…right-wing conspiracy.
I am so sick of liberals screaming to high heaven about atrocities that happened under Bush, when there was no proof to back up their claims, and then are silent when Obama commits NUMEROUS atrocities that ARE factually proven to have happened.
Cindy Sheehan comes to mind….
21 posted on Monday, October 29, 2012 7:45:03 PM by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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So now is Del/Recon also Luck9teen or just taking some teen ideas as his own…..
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
LP
How many Muslims did you personally converse with before you were able to extrapolate the assertions that you are making?
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
Not at all and you know that.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:44 pm
I read a comment that says it all. “When Obama needed the SEALs the SEALs risked their lives and when the SEALs needed Obama he watched the SEALs DIE.”
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Yeah that comment says a lot. It says anyone who believes that made up crap is an idiot.
It’s funny how the major chicken hawks of this country, Rush, Sean, Neal, Beck, ect…….. are all military experts although none of them has spent a nano second of time in the military or had the balls to risk their life in combat……..
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Forget all the conspiracy theories. Jay, why all the misinformation after the event? POTUS says the morning after, in the Rose Garden, ‘act of terror’ and claims that means he and his administration knew it was a terrorist attack. Then, for the next three weeks he and his administration claim the attack was in response to the video. Please, just answer that question. I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up and you guys in the media are scared to ask the most basic questions, choosing instead, to criticize the real journalist who are seeking real answers. That speaks for itself. I’m thrilled to review the sentiments of this blog. Clearly, Americans are still engaged and feel, rightfully, they deserve answers.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
…have one with some balls.
There’s your sign.
Do you need to borrow DDR’s feather boa?
Just Saying..
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
DowninAll-bennie:
11) Do you already have a conclusion that renders answers to 10 Questions meaningless?
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
I am specifically speaking of the ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS who have documented their intentions by their words and actions. I know it’s hard to understand because you aren’t allowed to say ISLAMIC EXTREMIST but that’s who I am referencing. I have yet to see Obama push back on that particular brand of Islam, or ‘folks’ as he calls them.
mark
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
The author makes many preposterous statements. Perhaps the worst is that “Libyan sovereignty” was a reason not to save tens of American diplomats trapped by a mob in a loosely governed country.
Joseph
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Pizzaman:
Watch the interview. Lt. Schafer says he’s got information that said he did. You can believe who you want but there’s no denying this is a complete and utter failure on the part of the President….
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
You can’t be a real American unless you served in the military…who knew?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up…
Oh noes, bloggers reeking havoc!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
Well Doom when it comes to telling tales from the Whole Food lines, we know you are the best for making it up. Are you going to post as a woman again any time soon?
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
I’m an independent and this wreaks of cover-up and you guys in the media are scared to ask the most basic questions, choosing instead, to criticize the real journalist who are seeking real answers.
Pray tell who are the “real” journalists of whom you speak?
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Kinda like Cindy Sheehan, code pink, and all the anti-war protestors who mysteriously collectively disappeared the day W left office and O walked into office.
Ooops, Doomy.
Wrong.
Dead wrong.
In August 2009, Sheehan protested at Martha’s Vineyard during President Barack Obama’s stay there. According to ABC News: “Sheehan invoked Senator Ted Kennedy’s passing as part of her message, noting that he was firmly anti-war and how he said his proudest vote as a senator was his 2002 vote against the Iraq war.” On October 5, 2009, Sheehan was arrested with 60 others at the White House protesting President Obama’s continuation of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. She told CNN: “I think the mood of the country and the mood of our movement is getting a little bit more desperate, and (that) this will be the time to be able to translate our tireless activism and work for peace.” On December 10, 2009, Sheehan protested on the streets of Oslo, Norway, as President Barack Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize.
On March 20, 2010, Sheehan was again arrested in front of the White House, along with seven others, after they defied orders by officers of the United States Park Police to clear the sidewalk on Pennsylvania Avenue. On July 12, Sheehan and four other activists were on trial in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia stemming from the arrests. The government decided not to try three others arrested that day, and had their cases dismissed. Sheehan and two others were acquitted of crossing a police line, while the other two were found guilty.
That one woman has more courage than the entire “leadership” (what a bad joke) in Washington DC put together…
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Thanks for another profound liberal witicism Fred.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Keep up the good fight still trying to get into a fight but she just can’t make it.
Rochelle
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Do you know that the Ambassador’s own father asked the politicians NOT to use his son as a pawn in their campaigns??? THAT is why Romney hasn’t said anything. He is respecting the father’s wishes and THAT is honorable, in ANY book.
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . . this information is now ABOVE TOP SECRET CLEARANCE . . . of course none of the Obama followers want this information to come out before the election. It’s a shame someone with a blog has ANY pull in something like this . . . people will use what he’s said to back up their sad, excuses as to why Obama didn’t do what he should have. A real President not only takes credit when good things happen(Bin Laden), but goes down with the ship when he’s responsible for the failings. OBVIOUSLY, Obama would never do the latter.
Lissa M.
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Please tell me this Jay fellow is not actually employed by the AJC as a journalist!
Oh, and btw, check out all the blog posts on Huff Po that begin with “If/When Obama loses”…
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
LP
I have used the word Muslim extremists myself, so all that crying you do is hardly needed or called for when you post here.
When you say push back, would using drones not be push back? Would authorizing the military to conduct air-strikes over Libya be any sort of “push back”?
Would the tightening of sanctions on Iran be any sort of “push back”?
You are welcome like anyone else to opine on what he has done or not done, but at least have some intellectual honesty…….. That might be tough for you based on what I have read in the past and today, but you can do it.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
doom
Benghazi and the iraq war have no congruity, yet to you cons it just seems to be served up right for your needs, namely an election. How come six weeks after 911 we weren’t running around blaming bush???
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . .
Please note that jay has DEBUNKED this several times already.
Drive-by trolls should really take the time and read through the comments.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Hey Del, you making more “points” any time soon….. Girl, you is funny. FTroop salute.
Junior Samples
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Bush and Cheney must be at fault here per Obammy.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Ahhh…poor Fred.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred . I am happy you make $300 k plus a year…..and you can brag.. probably makes up for other insecurities…….
But the fact is you are not part of the money i am talking about……if you were making say 10 Million plus a year odds are you wouldn’t be here…..and really the folks that are making it happen with the inside scoop are making more than that…..the Arthur blanks of the world are not even in that group.
But if you are happy to brag…then more power to you !
Derek
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
I thought the AJC had fired Cynthia Tucker because she was too liberal and was hurting their circulation and ad revenue, but I was wrong she just had a sex change operation and came back as Jay Bookman, trying to fool us!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred
Jay has stepped out for this evening, and it is unsure whether he will return.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Kam, no…. its now “above top secret clearance” you know that means only people who can see it are those who see the real birth certificate and the school records.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Thanks for another profound liberal witicism Fred.
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Really? Anyone who drinks not of the Rush Limbaugh koolaid is a “liberal?”
Pray tell, regale me with his qualifications to make judgements on military strategy and tactics? I mean since he did not serve where did he get all his experience from? Call of Duty 4?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
JamVet,
Surprise surprise. I guess she still was protesting. Few of us knew though since her and the anti-war protesters largely disappeared from the evening news after O came into office. I guess they get lots of air time when W is in office but very little play time when its O in office. Good to know at least 60 of them still existed after W left. The other several thousand of them? Hell I dunno.
Really?
October 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
JamVet – “That one woman has more courage than the entire “leadership” (what a bad joke) in Washington DC put together…” Just lost ALL respect for you!
Cherokee
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
“I have yet to see Obama push back on that particular brand of Islam”
Then you’re not paying attention. Ever hear of drones? Obama has taken our far more terrorists than his predecessor ever did. He just doesn’t call a press conference everytime it happens.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
@F. Sinkwich
I posted my hypothetical to try and determine if you thought the policy of “Ready, Fire, Aim!” was applicable to all or reserved for the US.
You responded with insults.
Typical.
If you want to advocate an engagement policy that is based on “Don’t Fluck with us”. Fine! State it and back it up. Else you are just another clueless sock puppet whose lips are glued to Rush’s derriere.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
1) HURRICAN “SANDY”:
WASHINGTON — Hurricane Sandy is expected to slam the East Coast and the federal government is shut down—but the U.S. servicemen who guard the outdoor Tomb of the Unknowns at Arlington National Cemetery will remain on duty.
“THEY WILL NOT ABANDON THEIR POST,” an employee who answered the Arlington Cemetery’s phone confirmed to Yahoo News. He identified himself as “George,” but was not authorized to speak on the record to the media.”
2) BENGHAZI:
But “someone” abandoned our men in Benghazi. I hope they can live with that.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
Rochelle
October 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Please note that Gen Ham was RELIEVED of his duties . . . this information is now ABOVE TOP SECRET CLEARANCE . . .
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Really? Then how are you privy to it? Do you possess the “above top secret clearance” and have the need to know? If so then didn’t you just violate the law by disclosing that information?
Just damn. Do you know how silly you sound?
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yet, strangely enough, Del, you hang on my every post. Before you ran off in a pout to the safety of Kyle’s, you would respond to posts of mine, not even directed at you. Regularly. To the point where you couldn’t even keep your cool with me.
So are you just not representative of Marine vets or simply lying?
LOL, either way you are really way too easy…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCxbHjhRKhw
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
“Pray tell, regale me with his qualifications to make judgements on military strategy and tactics?”
Fred,
You obviously have no idea how many games of stratego and battleship some of us played as kids.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
**But “someone” abandoned our men in Benghazi. I hope they can live with that.**
Spoken as if he were an eye witness – not,,,
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Oh my!
Some mystery meat doesn’t like my views very much.
Whatever will I do???
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Fred@8:54pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier. Yes, I know, you will claim since he works for FNC that he’s not real, so save your time and mine, but his reporting on this issue has been superior. At least he’s asking the questions. Face it, Fred, people want answers and 90% of the media refuse to ask the questions.
LIberal Pariah
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
You don’t have to patronize me BOTH. I am a big boy and seem to be one of the few intellectually honest bloggers on here (you of course included)
Obama’s efforts so far have been ineffective and certainly, perceptually, nothing to deter future attacks. If the efforts you cited are his foreign policy with respect to TERRORISM, why can’t he call it what it is? I honestly don’t believe he sees them as the enemy they are because he was raised by his mother and grandparents with a different view of America. Even different from MOST Liberals on this blog.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
Derek
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
I thought the AJC had fired Cynthia Tucker because she was too liberal and was hurting their circulation and ad revenue
Probably. But it also hurt that her columns were full of nothing more than hot air kook rhetoric and hyperbole. The woman wouldn’t know a fact if it bit her in the ass.
jimbob
October 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
Jay’s support for treasonous US leaders, essentially serving as a US State Department shill, is quite sad and pathetic.
But it’s to be expected from someone that would try to sweep this type of treason under the rug but would blame Jewish landowners for the reasons that Muslims do these things.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
“Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself”–JAY BOOKMAN
LEFT-WING Hysteria in the White House: Obama blames a YOUTUBE video for a Terrorist attack…
… then send the troops to arrest the “film maker” in CALIFORNIA… Go figure!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier.
Aaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnndddd, I quit reading.
Jack
October 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
What we have to do is shut down those bad old talk show hosts that don’t kowtow to liberal superiority and say bad things about Obama. The nerve of those people.
Just A Grunt
October 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
Hey Jay, before you go running off at the mouth why not pick up the phone and contact somebody in the military rather then relying on what somebody else has written that happens to reinforce your opinion. Everybody seems to be hung up having a Special Ops team swooping in. FACT: There is an Airborne brigade stationed in Italy, they would have had a unit on standby already. They always do, it’s one of those funny things the Army does. Known variously as a Quick Reaction Force (QRF) or Immediate Reaction Force (IRF) Size of the force varies but it wouldn’t have taken long to add to it. They were an hour away. With the available air assets they could have flown there in Blackhawks and fast roped in. If needed within 2 hours they could have probably had a company (100 men) on the ground. Pannetta’s claims about not wanting to go in without all the intel sure didn’t prevent us from going into Grenada, Panama, Somalia, or a dozen other operations. I could go on and on but for those of us with experience in such things his explanation doesn’t pass the smell test and by trying to throw the military under the bus he is opening up a whole can of whup ass. I have also seen were a contingent of Marines were at an airfield in Tripoli and were also forbidden from moving. You know just talking to my friends in arms. Amazing what you can find out by talking to folks in the veteran community.
John
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Don’t worry about it Bookman, President Romney will get to the botom of it soon enough.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
LP
That last response was much better and defined compared to your “Muslim sympathizer” post. While still having a differing opinion, that at least provides something more specific than that paint sprayer you started using.
And for the record, I have called him mediocre. I don’t see him as the total failure that many on the right see him as, but surely nothing special.
Too bad, Mitt the flip is his competition.
Really?
October 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
JamVet – never mind, just another effing ahole. “Suck it” BOOM
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
LP
excuse me
“Him” meaning Obama
Mick
October 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
usmc
Does not the you tube video that…you know had the arab world out in the streets across the middle east muddy the waters a bit? Seriously, to them it was sacrilege.
Funny how all those street thugs slowly retreated back to their lives, waiting in the wings for the next “insult”…
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
Please Fred. Regale me with tales of Obama’s extensive military service and his countless daring tales of clandestine combat missions. Please post his medals that he has earned.
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Yep, Kamchuck or whatever, I knew you wouldn’t recognize real journalism and would have no response to it. The truth is hard. I understand. When you can’t answer, you just criticize.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
JamVet, this is a blog…I don’t like you or dislike you. When I’m on the blog and certainly off of it, I don’t give you a thought. Hopefully, I’m the same for you. Political blogging isn’t important, or at least it shouldn’t be except for maybe Jay, because that’s how he makes his living.
Johnny
October 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Shameful. Tyrone Woods, this is a true hero, sacrafised his life to save others yet story completely covered up by the state media. Surprising being the state media was anxious to lift up dubious heros like Cindy Sheehan.
Obviously from the head line of this article just another of the state medias political hacks wrote this. Obama covers and lies , Tyrones father claims murder on this one by the state department. Do the citizens of the once great nation of America a favor and start reporting the truth.
Don Abernethy
October 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
More liberal spin to cover up another screw up by the democrats that the media tries to hide.
Cam
October 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Sorry Jay, but Benghazi was a major Obama debacle and this issue has nothing to do with Mitt Romney. BTW, I don’t support Mitt Romney or Barack Obama.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
I knew you wouldn’t recognize real journalism and would have no response to it.
Real journalism?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks, sport.
I needed that laugh.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
Peter
October 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Fred . I am happy you make $300 k plus a year…..and you can brag.. probably makes up for other insecurities…….
But the fact is you are not part of the money i am talking about……if you were making say 10 Million plus a year odds are you wouldn’t be here…..and really the folks that are making it happen with the inside scoop are making more than that…..the Arthur blanks of the world are not even in that group.
But if you are happy to brag…then more power to you !
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Where did you come up with $300,000? Those are YOUR numbers. You really should stick to the truth. As to the rest, you said the 1 percenters. One percenters start at $345,000 per year. If you MEANT 10 million you should state that. Don’t get mad at me because we can’t read your mind, only the words you type.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
I honestly don’t believe he sees them as the enemy…
Then you should run for the mayor of Simpleton.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
How about those Christian riots in New York City when the “P*ss Christ” (crucifix in a jar of urine) came back for a second tour last month !
How many were killed ?
Ahem
October 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Jay offers his readers but two options, as if to say there could be no more and thus insulting the intelligence of all but his mind-numbed sycophants. There could be any number of options but let me just pose this one:
Option three. With most of the media clearly on the side of, and pulling for an Oblunda victory, Mitt Romney has chosen to look presidential and stay focused on the economy and what is on the minds of potential voters. He is wise enough to understand how the media operates and how they twist and spin. I think he has shown exactly why he is the optimal choice over Status Quo Bro. He knows that at some point the truth on Benghazi will come to light and he also understands that anyone paying attention has figured out that the Oblunda administration is not being forthright. He knows he will never get a fair shake if he pushes the Benghazi matter and he also knows that at this point in the election cycle, to do so would distract from his winning strategy. The Economy.
twistedmuser
October 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
I like how you tried to change the narrative of the story. Its not what the reaction was or wasn’t, it’s about the fact their story changes every time their mouth opens.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
True Grit,
Your wasting your time. Some people don’t understand the difference between the hard news anchors like a Brett Baier or Sheppard Smith and the partisans on Fox like Hannity or O’Reilly. Not much difference if any between how Shep Smith covers hard news stories like the storm or current events than say Peter Jennings at ABC. But people on the kook left already have their groupthink pre-conceived views and no amount of reasoning is going to change that.
Look before I leap...
October 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Just a grunt:
The interval between the coup and the invasion of Grenada was 11 days – not 6 hours.
And we lost 19 troops.
Somalia – well that went real well for the US, didn’t it?
Panama – 5 days between the assault on the army officers at the checkpoint and the invasion. And we lost 23 troops with another 300 or so wounded.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Fred@8:54pm
Let’s start with Brett Baier. Yes, I know, you will claim since he works for FNC that he’s not real,
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No, I will say he’s not a real journalist because his degree is in English and political science, NOT Journalism. Sarah Palin worked at FOX as well, that didn’t make HER a journalist either. I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……………
Try again, I’m not a brain washed talkradio/FOX sock puppet. I actually think.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Ahem
As the Republican nominee hasn’t Romney been receiving intel briefs for a month now?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
You libs should hang your heads in shame. Yes in shame for supporting a president who would throw four good American lives away and excuse his actions and that of his administration with lies and subterfuge.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
“Jay offers his readers but two options, as if to say there could be no more and thus insulting the intelligence of all but his mind-numbed sycophants.”
True. But his groupthink sycophants like it that way- not having to think is easy. Easy is good.
Peace
October 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
The president has more important things to do than get involved in protecting the lives of white Americans in Libya … or providing answers to questions about the murder of a white border guard with weapons the administration sold to the Mexican drug cartels. He saves his actions for important things such as the assertion that Cambridge police officers “…acted stupidly” for detaining that black university professor, or to comment on the shooting of that black teenager in Florida. I think there is a pattern emerging here.
nobodyyouknow
October 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
From what I understand from all the reporting on that situation those diplomats were very worried and concerned about the things they heard weeks before. They had asked for additional security weeks before but got no response. It would not matter who was in the Whitehouse. In a bad situation like that whoever is the President is going to get the blame, If Bush had been President the Dems. would be all over him, and everybody knows its true.
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Glad to provide some jocularity, Kamchuk, but when people stop seeking the truth because it doesn’t fit their personal politics, it’s not a laughing matter.
I have voted Dem and Rep and I, like many other honest people on this blog, want and deserve answers. You’re blinded by ideology. That’s sad. Just watch the special Baier did. You will see it was clearly not a biased report.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Thulsa @ 9:24
I guess those “kook” lefties would be two peas in a pod with many right leaning bloggers who basically tout all stations not named FOX as liberal media, huh?
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
“I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……………”
Fred,
Were you that hamburglar guy?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
If Bush had been President…
Who is this “Bush” that you speak of?
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
“Were you that hamburglar guy?”
Nope just hamburger.
GOP Voter
October 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
Option 3: Romney has this one in the bag. Run out the clock without requiring the intellectually inept five percent of remaining undecideds to figure out what Libya is.
nobodyyouknow
October 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
So true peace, he also has to get his appointments set for the ladies on the view, and the Letterman show. They are his biggest fans. After he leaves the Whitehouse in January he needs to get a job on the view. He can sit there and GRIN while those airheads tell him how sexy he is.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Recon: You libs should hang your heads in shame. Yes in shame for supporting a president who would throw four good American lives away and excuse his actions and that of his administration with lies and subterfuge
While you supported Bush and Cheney who lied and how many Americans died. You are a poor excuse for a poster to be telling others to hang their heads in shame based on the silly lies you are spreading and for your shameful exploitation of 4 dead Americans for your nonsense. Disgusting.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Just out of curiosity where’s soothsayer?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
That’s sad.
Ah yes. The passive/aggressive guilt trip aboard the shame train.
Your sadness is your own responsibility, so don’t try to assign that to me.
Been there, done that, sport.
Professionals better than you keep trying to play that card on me.
Just watch the special Baier did.
Can’t I just drive red-hot railroad spikes in my eyes instead?
td
October 29th, 2012
9:34 pm
This is all one needs to know about the massacre of American’s and the response from Obama:
Last night on Geraldo at Large, Charles Woods, the father of murdered Benghazi SEAL Tyrone Woods, sent this message to Barack Obama:
“It’s better to die a hero than live a coward.”
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
“Ride to the sound of the guns !”
True Grit
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred,
That response is beyond pathetic.
“I once worked at McDonalds when I was a child, that didn’t make me a hamburger……”
Really? You think if you don’t have a degree in journalism that you can’t be a real journalist? The fact he doesn’t have a degree in journalism is probably what makes him a better journalist. Your response sounds like the ivory tower mentality that has permeated and destroyed the integrity of journalism. Face it, Fred, you guys are freaking out and you have no answers. Just criticize and demean.
Brett Baier is a reporter. Sarah Palin, when on FNC, was never claiming to be a reporter. Do you understand the difference between reporting and commentating? Guess not.
plow.point
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Fred? Silence on Obama’s extensive military experience? It’s deafening.
John
October 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
Nixon was forced to resign for lying over a 2 bit break-in. This guy Obama is lying over an event in which 4 people are dead. What’s despicable is not only that he is lying for purely political reasons, but that you, Bookman, are defending this egomaniac simply because you support his liberal views. I can’t think of a more dishonorable act.
Thulsa Doom
October 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
they both suck,
They are decidedly liberal. I don’t think there is much question about that. Peter Jennings isn’t that bad but Dianne Sawyer is unabashed about it. As is Terry Moran at ABC.
CBS still has the Dan Rather leftist mentality and of the 3 networks NBC is the farthest left. Its not nearly as in your face left as say Hannity at Fox or other Fox personalities. They’re much more subtle about it.
The bias is more in choosing what stories to run and what stories to lead with and which stories don’t even get play. That’s where the bias comes in.
For example when news broke of Romney supposedly bullying a kid 47 years ago that was the lead story on ABC that night. Seriously? An alleged bullying incident from 47 years ago is a lead story on prime time news? And on the Benghazi cover up the main stream media largely ignored the whole story until they had no choice but to start following it- albeit reluctantly.
lbp
October 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
You LIE!