Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself
Fox New anchors, right-wing websites and talk-radio hosts around the country are ginning up a wave of mass hysteria about the decision by the Obama administration not to attempt a military rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. (Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria. I kid you not.)
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.
But I have a question.
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.
As Defense Secretary Leon Panetta explained, “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
That would be Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They are men of training and experience; they know where our military assets are located; they know their capabilities, and they know the difficulties involved in inserting and extracting an armed force into an uncertain situation in another country.
It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. But that is real life. This is not a Hollywood movie.
Here’s how Fox News reported the news above:
The most provocative piece of that report is the claim that a Special Forces team stationed at an air base in Signonella, Italy, two hours from Benghazi, was ready to intervene but orders were never given. But here’s how such mass hysteria gets fed by partial information, in both senses of the word “partial”. As it turned out, the Special Forces team in question was not based in Sigonella but had to be assembled and transported there from elsewhere in Europe.
“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”
Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor.
That makes no sense. It is such a ridiculous notion that in most eras it would never even be broached in public debate. But this is an era in which many are predisposed to believe the most ridiculous things if it justifies their hatred of Obama, and a time in which when emotions are heightened by a hard-fought presidential campaign. So nonsense reigns.
– Jay Bookman
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F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
“Yep, that is why Osama bin Laden is dead.”
But AQ is very much alive, in spite of O’bozo’s fantasies. He, like you, think that since Osama is dead, America has vanquished all its ME enemies.
People who think that are weenies who sing Kum-bye-ahhhhhhh everyday instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegience.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
DUBS
“you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country.”
And the partisan righties don’t? Peas in a pod, imeoiauo.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Isn’t that cute?
dubs and the other half pretending to be two different bloggers…
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
“So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?”
Why yes Josef. I think that pretty well covers it.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
drudgey spam
The ONLY answer ole Kammy has for any facts that do not fit his / her narative!
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
cons love them some terrorists
Getaclue, Please get one, Please.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…
But you couldn’t care less about justice for the Americans (not to be confused with “people”) killed in the attacks at our diplomatic facilities when Bush was president.
Like I said, DownInAlbany, you have two sets of standards.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
ORANGE
Perhaps. But I still so no rational, pragmatic and effective answers to that…
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Isn’t that cute?
dubs and the other half pretending to be two different bloggers…
Jamit Vet, I don’t have the first clue who Dubs is and I think Jay can probably verify that.
I at least don’t foam at the mouth, like you do and I don’t have to use my Military backround to get sympathy.
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:43 pm
Josef, If that timeline was indeed 4 to 6 hours. DOD had ample time to organize and implement a strike.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
He, like you, think that since Osama is dead, America has vanquished all its ME enemies.
No, fool. That is why he keeps droning their asses into oblivion. And supporting NATO bombing runs into Libya, etc.
You soft-on-terror neocons are just gonna have to suck it up and realize that the skinny black Muslim punked you at your own national security game.
Gawd, you guys are easy.
And BTW Andy, nice job saluting him for killing OBL.
LOL!
You feel better, don’t you?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
The ONLY answer ole Kammy has for any facts that do not fit his / her narative[sic]!
Not my problem that you are embarrassed by drudgey, sport.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
But I still so no rational, pragmatic and effective answers to that…
You really weren’t expecting specifics, were you?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
“So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?”
Uh, more than NOTHING?
superDave
October 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Jay Bookman is an idiot. He knows nothing. Never served in the military. Never served his country in any capacity. He is a joke and a weasel.
Gessiewtf
October 29th, 2012
6:46 pm
Obama gave the order to stand down three times, because it was in his personal best interest to do so. Since the mainstream media is behaving in the exact same fashion as Gramma and the Venezuelan press, because they are hell-bent on re-electing their candidate, we will probably not know the exact reasons for his treasonous decision until after the election. If he gets elected he will be impeached. With the Americans left to die on American soil, he went to bed, did not attend the morning security briefing, and flew to Vegas. The man is not fit for the office he holds, and msm can suppress the truth all they want, but it will come out eventually. The CIA nor the very angry and disgusted military will not fall on their bayonette
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
“Josef, If that timeline was indeed 4 to 6 hours. DOD had ample time to organize and implement a strike.
And you base that on your extensive experience planning military rescue operations into a hostile, unknown environment, General Orange?
indigo
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Rob Jones – 5:29
The “overwhelming bipartisam belief of WMD in Iraq” was based on Congress actually believing Bush and Cheney were telling the truth.
Are you wearing blinders on purpose or just blowing smoke?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Sock-puppet parade.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Half, perhaps you should trying using both sides of your brain.
And since you brought it up, little Dick Cheney, go find the nearest military recruiting station.
You know, where they will teach you all about that corny “service before self” and “a code of honor” kind of stuff.
Hell, they might just turn you into a real man!
Dharma Bum
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
All that seems to matter to Republicans and Democrats anymore is name-calling… this blog is proving that point perfectly… no substance, just snarky one-liners and chest beating.
smitty
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
kamchak………or another way to put the iraq war resolution vote counts would be…..
40% of house democrats voted aye
58% of senate democrats voted aye
to go along with nearly all republicans for a 70% aye vote from all elected representatives…..not bad
for plurality and somewhat bipartisan…..
compare that with passage of obamacare which had ZERO republican votes in either the house or senate and 34 house democrats who also voted NO………with nancy “i’ll read the bill later” pelosi and harry pushing the final bill through illegally via reconciliation……now thats bipartisanship at its finest…..have a nice day
nancy
October 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
Plain and simple, if Obama wants all of us “wingnuts” to shut up about this, all he has to do is get on the liberal news media and tell us all exactly what happened. Tell us why help was denied BEFORE 9/11. Why help was denied during the attack. Let us see the video he watched. Prove us wrong. But, I suppose he won’t be able to do that until AFTER the election. Because he knows if we know what he knew, he’d lose. If he handled everything correctly, we’d know all about it by now
Gessiewtf
October 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
You Sir, are a simpleton.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
That is Admiral Orange to you, Jay.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Indigo, It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
The CIA was in horrible shape just before Bush took office and also during his years in office, they still need a lot of help as is obvious by all the love shown towards us around the World.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Indigo, It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
The CIA was in horrible shape just before Bush took office and also during his years in office, they still need a lot of help as is obvious by all the love shown towards us around the World.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
“Black man voting” is flying under false colors, so to speak. If he continues, he will be banned.
Aquagirl
October 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Sock-puppet parade.
Because if you’re so confused you 1) can’t tell the difference between a consulate and embassy, and 2) think an embassy is “on home soil” then all you have left is sockpuppeting. Because real people laugh in your face a lot.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
Sorry for the double post.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
…..not bad
for plurality and somewhat bipartisan…
The original claim was “overwhelming”.
You might as well put those goalposts back where you found them. I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night, sport.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
“The “overwhelming bipartisam belief of WMD in Iraq” was based on Congress actually believing Bush and Cheney were telling the truth.”–Sock Puppet
No Sock Puppet, the Congres doesn’t just go off of what the Executive Branch says…
Congress looks at Intelligence reports as well. Wake up and learn to read and think for yourself.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…
But you couldn’t care less about justice for the Americans (not to be confused with “people”) killed in the attacks at our diplomatic facilities when Bush was president.
Four years ago, then-candidate Barack Obama decried what he described as “the politics of insult.”
“You don’t deserve a bunch of name-calling,” he told a Virginia crowd in the summer of 2008. “You don’t deserve a bunch of mudslinging.”
CJ, you are following the O play-book word for word. Somehow I am not at all surprised. Defend, deflect and namecall…’cause that’s all ‘ya got, isn’t it? Man up and admit!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
It was the CIA who told Bush about Iraq and almost everyone in Congress voted to support him, Just sayin..
Not even in the same time zone as the truth.
Just sayin’.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
Orange
Strike what, where, how?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:55 pm
“You soft-on-terror neocons are just gonna have to suck it up and realize that the skinny black Muslim punked you at your own national security game.”
Oh, you mean like O’bozo giving Iraq to Iran?
Or O’bozo raising the ol’ white flag in Afghanistan?
Or O’bozo being such a ‘fraidy cat he thinks losing four lives is better than risking a “Desert One” or “Blackhawk Down” possibility?
I have tape of a conversation between O’bozo and the ambassador:
“Chris, sucks to be you. I have an election to win.”
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
Half, perhaps you should trying using both sides of your brain.
And since you brought it up, little Dick Cheney, go find the nearest military recruiting station.
You know, where they will teach you all about that corny “service before self” and “a code of honor” kind of stuff.
Hell, they might just turn you into a real man!
JamitVet, Are you sure that your not GetaClue? You really sound like him.
Keith
October 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
I hate to feel this way but it appears that President Obama wanted Christopher Stevens dead (or didn’t care if he died) based on current info. I don’t have a clue as to why but I would like to hear a full account from the administration BEFORE the election. Waiting for voting to end is highly suspect and not confidence inspiring.
Michael
October 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
I would like to know how long the Navy Seals practiced for the assault on the OBL compound in Pakistan. From what I understand they had a mock up of the suspected compound and probably did several practice runs.
The situation in Benghazi was over in one night. I think the faux outrage here is disingenuous. Our arm chair John Waynes apparently wanted to be airlifted into a town with significant enemy forces in the middle of the night. I think you should take another look at Black Hawk down. You might learn something about night time operations in unfamiliar urban areas against an unknown number of assailants.
Obama’s problem is that he did not learn from Bush’s cover up of the killing of Pat Tillman. In that case Tillman’s death was used for political gain, and his family did not know it was friendly fire until a month after the event. This, in spite of the fact that General McChristal warned Washington that it was probably friendly fire before the funeral.
It happened in the spring of 2004, and was handled so well, that I don’t recall any issue being raised during that election year.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
SINKWICH
“Uh, more than NOTHING?”
Okay. What?
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
“but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.”
Actually Dubs, if you’ll get your head out of the Fox brainwashing machine, you’d know that on the same day in Cairo, protests over the video were very heated. There were also protests in other areas at the same time and several days afterward. The president didn’t make that up- it’s in the news.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
More Bad news for the Obama Regime…
New Projection of Election Results: Romney 52, Obama 47
http://weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-poll-projects-romney-52-obama-47_658066.html
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
MADONNA BOOED AFTER TOUTING OBAMA IN LA. CONCERT
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PEOPLE_MADONNA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-10-28-04-26-51
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
No Sock Puppet, the Congres doesn’t just go off of what the Executive Branch says…
Congress looks at Intelligence reports as well. Wake up and learn to read and think for yourself.
And how did the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, vote? He voted no, which is one reason I didn’t cut Hillary much slack for voting yes.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
nancy nailed it.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
I am sure all Republican’s would agree there is no such thing as Global warming…heck peace and calm is all we expect from the weather !
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
“And how did the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Bob Graham, vote? He voted no, which is one reason I didn’t cut Hillary much slack for voting yes.”–Jay
Jay, the point is that The U.S. doesn’t just go to WAR because Dick Chenney and G’Dud dial up Congress and say we are going. Congress voted on going into Iraq based on INTELLIGENCE reports; NOT “W” saying We’re going in, Boys. I know that doesn’t fit your distorted and dishonest portrayal of Bush.
Media has no soul
October 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
To post such a rubbish piece after several good men gave their lives for this country in Benghazi, including two of our best & brightest Navy Seals, is unconscionable. They were left to die, & despite the media’s dereliction of duty, everyone who is following this story knows it.. It’s time for Obama & his cowardly minions to go.
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
USMC . Really what you are saying is the Bush Administration did not protect America, and couldn’t really figure out what was happening..even with the intelligence they acquired.
But we all know the truth.the war was about the Oil, and all was a scam.
Bush, Cheney and the buddies……. bilked America..and they did a great job putting America behind ten plus years….and cost American tax payers trillions for the benefit of a few.
You should be proud of the few…….
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
In other news, a 3.9 along the New Madrid…
Peter
October 29th, 2012
7:11 pm
USMC . the US went to war after they convinced Powell to tell the tall tale at the UN.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I disagree, USMC. As the infamous Downing Street memo reported, “the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy of going to war. The intel was cooked to support the policy that needed supporting.
The critical “tell” is the fact that after Saddam let the UN inspectors into his country, and after he gave them absolute freedom to inspect where they wanted, and after those UN inspectors visited the sites that the CIA claimed were WMD sites and found absolutely nothing, even after all that, we forced the withdrawal of the inspectors and invaded anyway.
The WMD were an excuse. Nothing more.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
“Bush, Cheney and the buddies……. bilked America..and they did a great job putting America behind ten plus years….and cost American tax payers trillions for the benefit of a few.”–Peter
Peter is in Meltdown mode because he knows Jimmy Carter Light… I mean Obama is going to LOSE!
What does your statement have to do with Benghazi exactly???? Your HATE and bluster for Bush/Cheney is duly noted.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
I would like to know how long the Navy Seals practiced for the assault on the OBL compound in Pakistan.
I believe they trained for about six months in preparation for the eventual mission.
Uh, more than NOTHING?
General Andy says:
Ready! Fire! Aim!
The man just makes up out of thin air a bunch of lies that would not get past a quick tenth grader.
Not that the cartoonish sock puppets here are anything more than illustrative of the collective lack of courage and grey matter in the right wing, but which one is half-brained?
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
“SINKWICH
“Uh, more than NOTHING?”
Okay. What?”
Well, I’m not as smart as your Preezy of the Stezzy, but I’ve heard of things like bullets, missiles, jet fighters, drones, and such. What didn’t your idiot ask a general what options were available?
He did NOTHING. Four dead.
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Mental health professionals have a name for the condition you wingnuts are experiencing these days: Projection. You Cons are just p!ssed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld etal have all been so dishonored by their actions that your Party can’t even speak their names to the American people anymore — you don’t even invite them to your big party in Tampa this past August! It’s not the liberals fault that you Cons got on board with that very bad idea of invading and bombing Iraq to smithereens, and committing lie after lie about the reasons why you wanted to do that all that war-mongering.
You’re all foaming at the mouth for some type of “scandal” that you can dump on Our President, all because you’re feeling so damn guilty for all the crimes that you have allowed your Party to commit against Americans and the rest of the world. Deal with it, Cons — you’re being dumped again on Nov. 6th!
Obama/Biden 2012 — Forward We Go!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
JAY,
Seems you and everyone but Fox News are hoping and praying that this issue goes away and in a hurry…that won’t happen anymore than it would happen if shoe on other foot…they had a drone in the air, told local operatives to stand down, identified this as a clear act of terror as confirmed by BO’s rose garden banter..and at going on 2 months now, no explanation why the accounts by the adminstration were so muddled..
You can click your rosy slippers as much as you like but this isn’t going to go away simply because you think you, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and the NYT’s (that with their own poller silver who resume includes nothing pre-ceding 2008) have a corner on the truth..
It’s not gonna go away so maybe you should keep trying to get more information and ask yourself why the bungled communications?
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
JAY BOOKMAN: “The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.”
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
I just got done with dinner and saw your post.
May I ask why you have to be so bitter and call me a name such as rube?
Can you. It answer for why your hypocrisy of calling one candidate a chickenhawk and the other you gloss over with no mention. Then still don’t respond when asked about it.
Nevermind you don’t know anything about me and obviously not that I voted for Obama in 08.
Guess that makes me a republican.
Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are always wrong and it doesn’t mean you have to call names.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
GOLDIE
Wow, did you write that yourself? Seems like standard lunatic left hand jive who are projecting that the BO adminstration handled this in the correct fashion…you nor I can possibly know so any suggestions to the contrary are absurd..
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
It’s going away, Stevie Ray, and it’s going away in a little more than a week.
Now, it’s entirely possible that investigations under way by the State Department will come back and say we should have done this better and we should have done that better. That’s why they do after-action reports in the first place, to improve operations and reduce chances of repeating the same mistake.
But the operatic melodramatic BS that the right is pushing will end after the election, one way or the other.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
sink **Oh, you mean like O’bozo giving Iraq to Iran?**
Correction: it was the previous president who handed iraq over to iran, saddam functioned as a counter weight and we had him boxed in; iraq war of choice? Very ignorant call…
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
I think Goldie needs to start listening to RUSH LIMBAUGH and watch more FOX News to educate herself.
She sure is Ignorant.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
0311/8541/5811/1811/180
Classic post! But, but, it was a video, no wait, it was terror, no a video, no wait terror…how the Libs can so quickly dismiss this is similar to an ostrich sticking its head in the sand…comical
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
So Jay now wants to talk about the Iraq thing from a decade ago instead of Benghazi?
It’s because he lost the argument. Even rabid lefties can’t defend O’bozo’s disregard for American lives.
Bummer.
Greg
October 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
Jay you have been drinking too much kool-aid. The expert Gen. Carter Ham that you mentioned was reassigned last week. Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command. The truth will come out. I really do not understand why we are even having the election since if Obama is elected we will just have to impeach him. At least Richard Nixon did not get anyone killed he just covered up something he had no direct involvement in.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
JAY
It won’t go away no matter who wins…you know better than me that the GOP will keep the heat on and keep focus on this…certainly with more feroicity than they are now…if Romney wins, it will still be pursued but certainly relegated..
You and lib outlets don’t cover this because you are biased and won’t hear of your guy being criticized…what’s new…lunatic left fringe you are….
Rick H.
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Go to Hell you son of a bitch
David
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Jay, who pays you to write this nonsense? Answer me this.. Why was Stevens’ security drawn-down prior to 9/11? Panetta says a military response would’ve been “too risky”.. Then why do we bother to have a military if they won’t accept “harm’s way”? So, this whole thing started because of a “YouTube video”. That’s all we heard from 0bama, Clinton and Susan Rice for days was “YouTube video”.. How can military intervention in response to a protest over a video be considered “TOO RISKY”? Jay, there ARE legitimate questions but unfortunately you’ll never be able to ask them because although 0bama is busy HOLDING PRESS CONFERENCES FOR HURRICANE SANDY, HE APPARENTLY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT WHY FOUR AMERICANS ARE DEAD IN BENGHAZI. Jay, if you don’t think there is a COVER-UP going on here, you are the most naive 0bama shill that ever walked the Earth. Put on your ‘objective’ glasses and SEE IT FOR WHAT IT IS; A COVER-UP!
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Well, I’m not as smart as your Preezy of the Stezzy, but I’ve heard of things like bullets, missiles, jet fighters, drones, and such.”
To fire at what? Anyone in a turban? Oh wait, that might include some of the locals providing security. Blow up buildings? Well, since we didn’t know where our people all were, that’s a bad idea. At what exactly were they supposed to fire all that ammo? Did the attackers put on bright orange tags or have some specific marking to indicate who they were?
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Forbes magazine, Nov. 2011 — “A poll by Farleigh Dickinson University in New Jersey showed that of all the news channels out there, Fox News viewers are the least informed…”
Ignorant Cons.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Greg:
The expert Gen. Carter Ham that you mentioned was reassigned last week.
No, he wasn’t. He holds the same job and responsibilities today that he did prior to the attack.
Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command.
If by “stories” you mean made-up fictions, you are correct. Any other reading of the word “stories” makes that a false statement.
The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.
Bob Selby
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
“It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives.”
It sounds like Mr. Panetta and our top military knew it wasn’t an impromptu, video-outrage mob protest. Seven hours, battle, mortars, multiple locations….the point you are indirectly making Mr. Bookman is the inconsistency between what the President and his reports shared with the media for days, and what POTUS actually knew at the time of the attack…
As a journalist, how do you reconcile that?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
JAY
Who is this RICH cat and why is he first assuming hell exists, and second issuing an invitation for unnamed individual to visit permanent-like…do you have no minimum posting requirements?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Mental health professionals have a name for the condition you wingnuts are experiencing these days: Projection. You Cons are just p!ssed that Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld etal have all been so dishonored by their actions that your Party can’t even speak their names to the American people anymore — you don’t even invite them to your big party in Tampa this past August!
Wow, who knew that you could diagnose such a condition over the internet? WHAT will they think of next? Today’s technology simply amazes me.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
From Defense Management——————————–this happened within a coupla hours———————
“The UK’s Royal Air Force on Aug. 22 boasted that its Reaper drones helped uncover a stash of heroin with an estimated street value of over £10 million. The Reapers, remotely piloted by members of the RAF’s 39 Squadron, tracked two vehicles after determining that they were likely to contain the hidden compartments typically used by drug traffickers. One vehicle was low on its suspension, while the rear of an accompanying flatbed truck appeared too shallow, suggesting a hidden storage area. A raid on the two vehicles by Afghan National Security Forces and theUS MARINE CORPS led to the seizure of 1,208 kilograms of dry opium and 59 kilograms of processed heroin. (Defence Management, Aug. 22)”
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Throw a few million dollars worth of Opiate money in the mix……….and everybody would have been alright.
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But then again………….maybe there WAS a few million dollars of Opiate money involved.
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Ya can’t trust the federalies.
josef
October 29th, 2012
7:25 pm
“bullets,”
Fired from guns you got there how?
“missiles, ‘
Targeting what?
:jet fighters,”
Aiming at the compound?
“drones,”
Zapping what?
“and such.”
None of which would have gotten those inside out alive…
“What didn’t your idiot ask a general what options were available?”
Why is he MY idiot? He’s just as much YOURS. Did he ask or didn’t he…and why a general? Army, Marine, Air Force? Why not an admiral?
Doug Book
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Another liberal defending Obama in spite of the overwhelming evidence of his guilt in betraying 4 men to their death. Gee, what a shock!
RF
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
David: to summarize your post: “It’s a cover up and I just know it…don’t bother me with facts!
That about right?
Now as to press conferences about Sandy. Hello? Do you think any president or candidate is going to ignore that monster? How Bush-like would that be? What do you expect him to do, hold a Benghazi hearing and press conference from FEMS HQ or maybe the boardwalk at Atlantic City? Get a grip dude.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Anyone with a brain knew when OBAMA/UN Ambassador Rice said the Benghazi TERROR incident was caused by a YOUTUBE video that something didn’t pass the smell test.
What a joke. It’s almost as bad as telling the enemy in Afghanistan WHEN you plan to pull your troops out.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
**Even rabid lefties can’t defend O’bozo’s disregard for American lives.**
Gee….didn’t the previous guy, uh like disregard the lives of over 4,000 american soldierrs and 30,000 severely wounded soldiers or maybe upwards of 100,000 innocent iraqi dead and your raging about 4? Saturday night in orlando is getting at least 4 americans killed every weekend…
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
“Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are always wrong and it doesn’t mean you have to call names.”
Uh ohhhh, Marty, now he’s gonna call you a chairborn, Pluto-person, corporator and such.
His vocabulary is kinda limited.
Dirty Dawg
October 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
What Romney knows is that the ‘false flag’ aspect of this whole sorry mess will one day be ‘outed’…and they want to be able to have plausible deniability. And for those that are saying this is worse than Watergate…first of all, the facts will reveal the reality, but of greater import is the knowledge that the Watergate burglars were acting on Nixon/Republican paranoiria that the Democrats had evidence at their headquarters of Nixon/Kissinger/Agnew’s sabotage of Johnson’s efforts to end the Vietnam war back in ‘68, just so the Republicans could win a damned election…the sabatage succeeded…the war contined for another four years and another 25,000 US soldiers died…but Nixon got returned to office – for a while. Now, you want to talk about traitors?
butterdezillion
October 29th, 2012
7:27 pm
Tyrone Woods was on the top of the CIA annex building, shooting to protect the building (and the 30 people he had helped rescue) from enemy fire. He took the time out to laser-paint the source of the enemy fire for an armed drone that was on-site, while coordinates for the target were sent to the drone as well. Obama and his regime refused to trust Woods to tell them where the enemy was shooting from.
Retired General Keane told Geraldo Rivera that the drone has narrow vision and couldn’t see. They had the target painted by a guy who had already risked his life to rescue 30 people, was risking his life to be on the top of the building protecting the 30 people he had just rescued, and was later found dead on that building killed by the target he had painted after having fought with blood-caked weapon to defend those people. Why in the heck would leadership distrust a guy of that caliber?
Under those rules of engagement, the only enemies we could ever fire at are the ones that are directly seen by a general in Washington DC. Why don’t we just line up our soldiers and shoot them all if that’s the anal micro-management and distrust of our military heroes that this regime operates under?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Classic
Woods, Doherty, and others who were part of the CIA’s response team, were not stationed in Libya to protect the U.S. consulate or the embassy in Tripoli. Prior to the attack, their mission had been to locate and collect more than 20,000 shoulder-held missiles known as MANPADS, which had gone missing after the fall of Muammar Gaddafi.
“hell Vern, I coulda swore they were here a minute ago…I just went to pee..”
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
Maybe I’ll meet you there, Rick H.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“To fire at what? Anyone in a turban?”
Would let ‘em know we’re serious, don’t cha think?
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“Stories are coming out that he requested help and was told no and then when he decided to try anyway he was relieved from command.”
Bwaaa — are these “stories” from the same website where Romney saw “a story” about Jeep exporting American jobs over to China??? All these “stories” that you Cons conveniently write every day about on the Internet machines???
LOL!
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
“Correction: it was the previous president who handed iraq over to iran, saddam functioned as a counter weight and we had him boxed in; iraq war of choice? Very ignorant call…”–Mick
-not intended to be a factual statement!
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
So who is the next US ambassador to Libya that will work for Hillary or Obama?
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Do they have to draw straws?
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Personally……I think that the warmonger Leiberman would make a good pick.
Or possibly Powell.
Goldie
October 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
“What a joke. It’s almost as bad as telling the enemy in Afghanistan WHEN you plan to pull your troops out.”
Just like your guy Mitt agreed to do during the last debate… ignorant Con.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
“The truth will come out.
Yes, I’m confident that it will.”
After the election, huh Jay?
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
“Maybe I’ll meet you there, Rick H.”–JAY
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
Jealous Often?
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
The question is, how many independents’ votes will be swayed by this last ditch effort to impugn Obama’s integrity and capability? My guess is, not many at all. Most will see it for what it is: a last ditch effort to impugn Obama’s integrity and capability. This is the right wing preaching to the choir, straining on the toilet to release one more attack on Ocean Obama, eyes bugged out, blood pressure pegging.
Not defending Obama. Just a moderate’s view of a bunch of whiny, irresponsible tyrants doing what they do best.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
“Would let ‘em know we’re serious, don’t cha think?
No, Sinkwich, it would let them know that we AREN’T serious.
Serious people don’t wade into a situation and start killing people indiscriminately just to prove a point about how tough they are. Adolescent gang members with no brains or sense of morality, and no confidence in their own masculinity, do that.
Mick
October 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
usmc – not intended to be a factual person…
Jay
October 29th, 2012
7:33 pm
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
You seem to be jumping to a conclusion about your own whereabouts, USMC.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
“Just like your guy Mitt agreed to do during the last debate… ignorant Con.”–Tarnished
It’s not always what you do, it’s how you do it. But is sounds like you are not complex enough to grasp that idea.
Cell phone Much???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:35 pm
Adolescent gang members with no brains or sense of morality, and no confidence in their own masculinity, do that.
We also call them neocons or simply Republicans. Where was the USMC when the ambassador was killed. The USMC let us down. Why! WHY!
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Quick Jay, grab my hand. We’ll pull you up!
The bottom of the ditch, if that high, is hardly referred to as “up”.