Right-wing hysteria over Benghazi feeds upon itself
Fox New anchors, right-wing websites and talk-radio hosts around the country are ginning up a wave of mass hysteria about the decision by the Obama administration not to attempt a military rescue of Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya. (Glenn Beck is even telling listeners that the treason is more widespread, and that Stevens was acting as a gunrunner for al Qaida in Libya and Syria. I kid you not.)
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor. The criticism extends as well to the mainstream media, which as my email informs me, is being accused of covering up a scandal of such dimensions that it would supposedly dwarf Watergate.
But I have a question.
According to NBC News, Mitt Romney hasn’t mentioned Libya in his campaign appearances around the country since Oct. 12, which is more than two weeks ago. Now why do you think that is?
Option one: Mitt has joined the mainstream media as part of the pro-Obama conspiracy of silence to protect the president.
Option two. Romney’s military and foreign affairs advisers have told him that not even a minimally responsible case can be made that Obama should have intervened militarily at Benghazi, and that Romney would deeply embarrass himself by suggesting such a step.
Let’s be clear: There is no indication — none — that U.S military officials advised the president or anyone in the administration that a rescue operation was possible, and that the administration ignored that offer. The evidence is entirely to the contrary.
As Defense Secretary Leon Panetta explained, “(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place. And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
That would be Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. They are men of training and experience; they know where our military assets are located; they know their capabilities, and they know the difficulties involved in inserting and extracting an armed force into an uncertain situation in another country.
It is of course frustrating and heartbreaking to learn that CIA officers stationed near the Benghazi consulate had asked three times for military assistance and that those requests had been denied. But that is real life. This is not a Hollywood movie.
Here’s how Fox News reported the news above:
The most provocative piece of that report is the claim that a Special Forces team stationed at an air base in Signonella, Italy, two hours from Benghazi, was ready to intervene but orders were never given. But here’s how such mass hysteria gets fed by partial information, in both senses of the word “partial”. As it turned out, the Special Forces team in question was not based in Sigonella but had to be assembled and transported there from elsewhere in Europe.
“U.S. officials say (the team) did not arrive in Sicily until after the attack was over,” CBS reports. “Even if the team had been ready in time, confusion about what was happening on the ground in Benghazi — and State Department concerns about violating Libyan sovereignty — made a military rescue mission impractical, the officials say.”
Arguing against mass and willful hysteria using facts, logic and expert professional opinion is a losing battle, of course. It doesn’t matter that our top military people believed a rescue effort would be impractical and would probably end in the loss of even more American lives. What matters is that talk-show hosts and others can stir up millions of Americans raised on Rambo movies to believe that their leaders could have helped to rescue a well-respected U.S. diplomat and his team, but simply decided it wasn’t worth the effort. Because the president is a traitor.
That makes no sense. It is such a ridiculous notion that in most eras it would never even be broached in public debate. But this is an era in which many are predisposed to believe the most ridiculous things if it justifies their hatred of Obama, and a time in which when emotions are heightened by a hard-fought presidential campaign. So nonsense reigns.
– Jay Bookman
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Cspike
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Jay: “No conceivable security detail in Benghazi would have been sufficient to fight off a force of some 150 armed men, which is the estimate I’m now seeing. It merely would have added to the American death total. Without the support of host-nation personnel — and there was none in Benghazi — most full embassies could not withstand an assault of that size.”
So completely not the point, man. Ask anyone in the military. They’ll just laugh at you.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
VAST RIGHT WING
“… the state-controlled media…”
Uh, if you mean “government” controlled, you might have an argument. But us’uns here in the Good Ole US of A, ain’t got no “state controlled” media…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
…silly to equate a war authorized by congress and based on overwhelming bipartisan belief of WMD in Iraq…
It would behoove you to research the vote on the Iraq resolution, sport.
In the House of Representatives, 126 voted nay to the 82 that voted yes. 61% voted nay
In the Senate it was 21 nays to 29 ayes. 42% nay
147 total votes nay = 57% of Democrats voted against invading Iraq.
Overwhelming support?
Not hardly. sport.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Recon
Thanks. Damning if true. Do you have any background on the rt Lt Col?
If it has real legs, I am sure it will come out.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
JAY, Will you at least admit that Benghazi was a Terrorist attack and NOT the result of a YOUTUBE video
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/25/the-right-wing-is-losing-its-last-two-marbles-over-benghazi/
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Okay, and how would that have saved the lives of the Americans inside the consulate?
It may or may not have Josef depending on what the real timeline of events actually was. One thing is for sure – it would send a large message to the people concerned.
pogo
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
The Obama interview with the Denver reporter on the 26th tells you about everything you need to know about what Obama knew and when he knew it on the Benghazi terrorist attacks. If Obama would have been a bank robber being interviewed by detectives instead of a so-called “president” being interviewed by a TV reporter he would have immediately been pegged as a lying SOB. He dodged, he blinked over and over again and he came across as a total liar. Make no mistake, he knew immediately it was a terrorist attack but because he was afraid of making waves with the Muslim leadership in Libya he would not order defensive measures for our Ambassador and our troops during the attack. If a republican president would have done the same as Obama, Jay and the resto of the useless liberal press would have already been calling for a Congressional investigation. But since they are unthinking ideologues who care about nothing but getting their man re-elected, they aren’t. But rest assured Jay. This story is hurting Obama badly and you know it or you wouldn’t be putting so much emphasis on it. Maybe you should be heading for the fainting couch old boy.
RB from Gwinnett
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Jay, you and your cohorts are just the “useful idiot” this administration needs to do whatever the hell it wants. Congratulations!!
Moderate Line
October 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Obama’s crime is said to be so heinous that mere impeachment for refusing to intervene would be insufficient. If you Google the words “Benghazi” and “traitor,” you get some 518,000 hits, almost all of which cast President Obama as that traitor.
+++++
Google 9/11 Bush Conspiracy you get 13,200,000 results.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
USMC: Check this guy out, I think you’ll like him. The link is to his youtube channel. the one that will play is about football, but the rest are political. I forget who I first got this from, it may have been Scout. LOL I have subscribed to him.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Interesting that now Obama’s telling Morning Joe on MSNBC that it’s possible that some messed up on the Benghazi attack and they will be held accountable. Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.
They BOTH suck
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
RB
How is that reading going on those articles you claimed were not ran in the AJC regarding Libya?
From the Center
October 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
Where would the main stream media and the Liberials stand on this if it took place during a Republican administration. They would be doing the same thing I am sure.
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
These attacks on the President are just nonsense. Any excuse to critize the President and spread more hate. Not just nonsense but brainless nonsense.
dennis
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
While there are questions about security before and during the terror, our president lied to the american people by blaming ‘the video’ for 2 weeks. Please note they knew it was a terror attack as found by Obama’s own words and subsequent documents. Would you vote for someone willing to lie to us folks and let him run the country? It certainly seems like BO is playing politics with the 4 americans who were killed. Sad for common folks
SPC
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
The administration’s stories just don’t add up. If they are so deliberate, why was the video story put out so quickly? An attack on an embassy is an act or war. It’s hard to believe this administration was not getting real time information as events were unfolding.
I think the simple answer is they didn’t know what to do, so they took no action.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
Fred
No snow here as of yet, though it’s just above freezing and the sky is spitting out moisture. The forecast is 50% chance of precip with a low of 30.
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
“Interesting that now Obama’s telling Morning Joe on MSNBC that it’s possible that some messed up on the Benghazi attack and they will be held accountable. Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.”–Recon
Just like his “stance” on HomoSexual “marriage”.
Obama was against HomeSexual “marriage” BEFORE he was for it….
He EVOLVED, now he walks UPRIGHT!
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
dennis
October 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
____
Your statements are completely unture, misleading and ill founded.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
Question
Why didn’t Bush shoot down those planes hitting the WTC…we ALL saw them coming…and, no, I’m not being snarky, just applying that logic of knowing what was going on in real time…
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
USMC
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
_________
Your credibility which was small to start with has become non-existence.
To bad for the Marines and their reputation that you continue to use the handle USMC.
saywhat?
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
“Guess Obama’s opinion is evolving.”
Or the investigation is. Better this than making up his mind how it happened first, then twisting, falsifying, discounting or making up the facts as needed to fit the pre-ordained conclusion. (cough-cough-IRAQ WMD-cough-cough)
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
People that watch Fox news weren’t voting for Obama to start with. I don’t know why Bookman brought this up except that, perhaps, he thinks the hysteria is amusing and is illustrative of the mentality (or lack thereof) of the right-wing. It’s almost as funny as watching Romney run away from the Tea-party-type bs and over to Obama’s positions on every issue as the election nears.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Would you vote for someone willing to lie to us folks and let him run the country?
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Man behind the Curtain
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
This post of the day deserves reposting:
Mitt won’t sully himself with this. This “prong” of the attack to win back the presidency for the oligarchs is left to the noise machines on radio and tv. If only a few dunces and tools fall for it and perpetuate the narrative, like our right wing friends on here, perhaps, just perhaps that will put them over the top. That’s their very transparent reasoning. And, who’s to say, it might work. But I doubt it. Sandy will steal their thunder. And I guarantee the furor over this will end next Tuesday, as it’s usefullness will be over.
Oscar
October 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
___
Too bad your opinion never evolves. Your credibility is a little bit less than that of USMC and your damage to the Marines is greater.
Recon 0311 2533
October 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
USMC, It sounds like he’s going to be offering up a scape goat to get the focus off himself.
Aquagirl
October 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
Thanks. Damning if true. Do you have any background on the rt Lt Col?
If it has real legs, I am sure it will come out.
The hysteria over a retired LTC’s statement based on his unspecified sources is typical of our fright-wing. They’ve read a few too many Tom Clancy novels and fancy themselves experts.
Too bad most haven’t done more than wanking from their armchairs, we’d have overrun every terrorist stronghold in the world. Big talkers, little peni—um, doers.
Hcalla
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
At least your writing about it Jay, if even just to badmouth those that want to know whats going on. The truth will come out it always does eventually. There was a time when reporters aggressiveness sought the truth and didn’t use words like the right or the left for that matter in a way that just inferred they had to be incorrect just because their ideology differed from from the authors. You diminish your profession and your readers for the short time they will follow you
Justin Case
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Jay do you have a crush on Obama or something??
Peter
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Weapons of mass destruction……..anyone remember that lie ?
Selective memory by Republican’s………along with ” Mission Accomplished ” !
Another great Republican Lie.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
From the Center: “Where would the main stream media and the Liberials stand on this if it took place during a Republican administration. They would be doing the same thing I am sure.”
From the Center,
The same thing did take place during a Republican administration…about 12 times, give or take.
I don’t know who you think you’re fooling, but in the interest of full disclosure, you might consider changing your handle to “From the Right.”
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
…overwhelming bipartisan…
My ass.
Just another neocon lie that our uninformed, willfully stupid guppies swallow hook, line and sinker.
A sizable majority of Democrats voted against letting the Worst Ever horrifically botch that invasion and occupation…
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Right wing hysteria?
How many contradictory statements do you have to have from the administration before you come to the conclusion that there is indeed a cover up???
ad
October 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
I thought the USMC user name stood for unusually small mental capacity.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
Hot dang! Does this all mean we can have a impeachment right away? Maybe we won’t need to wait till January for Romney to take office. Beleive me, I’ll burn up every vacation day I got to watch the impeachment on TV. I want Bob Barr back to head the thing—dig him up if he’s dead ’cause I ain’t seen hide nor hair of him for months—and maybe we could bring old Newt back. He ain’t doing nothihg but sending out e-mails begging for money to pay his wife’s debts at Tiffanys.
Trader—ain’t that good for the Death Penalty?
saywhat?
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
CJ @ 5:52- make that “from the far right”
deegee
October 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
I’m sure that by now the old folks at the home have tuned Fox News out even though it’s still blaring away in the community room. Thank God for the hurricane or this 24X7 Libya coverage would have bored them to death, literally.
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
ORANGE
So, the bottom line is that the lives of those inside were secondary to “making a point?”
And do you think that had we done that that Libyans would have turned out in the tens of thousands to express their grief that their friend had been killed by terrorists?
Isn’t tracking down, capturing and bringing to trial under the rule of law of the terrorists making a more civilized point? And I am of the opinion that once the Tunisian and Libyan regimes get through with those they see as out to destroy their revolutions, their next attack will be in hell…
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
I think there was slightly more time to make a decision between the start of the attacks on 9/11 and their conclusion and the start of the attack in Benghazi and its conclusion.
Fred ™
October 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Right wing hysteria?
How many contradictory statements do you have to have from the administration before you come to the conclusion that there is indeed a cover up???
+++++++++++++++++++++++
Namejacking a regular is frowned upon. I imagine namejacking the blog moderator and writer probably is as well.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
mitt stopped but the cons can’t . Brainwashed like zombies by rw meadia.
TaxPayer
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
Why didn’t the USMC protect the ambassador. Why! WHY!
clem
October 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
love all this monday morning qbing…..they have to do something to take everyone’s eye off of mitt the twit, the bold massachuesetts warrior……
if obama was willing to risk something like the bin laden raid, why would he be hesitant in libya? folks on right will say anything. they are entitled to answers but several right wing folks have said calmer heads are in order. guess the right can’t rely on vote , they need their iran hostage situation to tilt the meter in swing states.
maybe obama erred here, remains to be seen. but no one can deny that romney makes trump look like a piker when it comes to the carny game.
Coyote
October 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Having boots on the ground, and trying to get people in position to get on the ground are two different things. I know exactly what its like to be on the ground in an unfamiliar area as a situation unfolds. There is a reason we train for such situations. The problem I have with the situation is nobdy but POTUS ever thought the “movie”had anything to do with it, so why push it so hard and for so long?
If “all means needed” were desired and ordered by POTUS, where are those cables and why were no assets moved? Even if they began any type of attempt forces would have moved from CMD positions and that would also create cable trails and ant-whistle blower deflection rhetoric? Yet we hear crickets when its brought up?.
When you know Americans are attacked, you move assets to react “simultaniously” as you gather and put facts together, you do not step back and conduct a 48 day investigation, then begin to react. That is the lib line on this one? Not even remotely plausable.
Why is Gen Ham releived on 12 Sept. if he agreed with Panetta and the Admin. about the propper reactgion?
Why is the Navy CMDR of the Strike Group in the Middle East getting the same treatment with little or no explanation?
Too many coincedences and way too little coming from the Admin to defuse any of them. Sorry but this smell is def coming from a skunk.
No appology or action can ever make me forget Hillary standing in front of the families of the fallen and blaming the Benghazi tradgedy on a movie, that level of selfless preservation in the face and presence of true Americans is unforgivable. I am very unhappy with the current leadership, and genuinely concerned who will answer the next time I pick the radio up and ask for Air assets or re-enforcements.
God Bless America
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
Turn off fox zombies.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.
February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
Truck bomb kills 17.
February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.
July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
Suicide bomber kills two.
December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.
March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomate directly targeted by the assailants.
September 12, 2006, U.S. embassy in Damascus, Syria
Gunmen attacked embassy with grenades, automatic weapons, and a car bomb (though second truck bomb failed to detonate). One killed and 13 wounded.
January 12, 2007, U.S. embassy in Athens, Greece
A rocket-propelled grenade was fired at the embassy building. No one was injured.
July 9, 2008, U.S. consulate in Istanbul, Turkey
Armed men attacked consulate with pistols and shotguns. Three policemen killed.
March 18, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
Mortar attack misses embassy, hits nearby girls’ school instead.
September 17, 2008, U.S. embassy in Sana’a, Yemen
Militants dressed as policemen attacked the embassy with RPGs, rifles, grenades and car bombs. Six Yemeni soldiers and seven civilians were killed. Sixteen more were injured.
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What did Bush know, and when did he know it? Was he in the situation room or the lunch room during these attacks? Was his hair parted to the left or to the right, and if to the left, was that a sign of sympathizing with the attackers? Is it too late to string former President Bush up for treason?
Too many questions remain unanswered. Where was the mainstream media when we needed them?
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
mbtc
October 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Damn, Albany, you’re a regular Nuremburg inquisitioner. Monday morning quarterback much? Where were you when the dunce of death, Bush II, unleashed the most costly misadventure in terms of human life and treasure in the history of the nation? Will you be prosecuting Bush for his war crimes?
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
Let’s just cut to the chase, shall we?
O’bozo wanted to do everything he could to avoid a “Desert One” or a “Blackhawk Down” disaster just weeks before the election. So he did NOTHING.
Very sad, but not surprising…
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
You chickenhawks obviously know nothing at all about the anti-war voices in this country.
Remember Cindy Sheehan?
You fake conservatives dumped on that woman constantly.
Remember when Charles Whats His F&ck of the supposedly uber-liberal ABC News told her to give it up and go home?
Wake up and look around.
And see how your fellow POS neocons could give a flying ____ about our personnel overseas.
The cowardly, crap candidate of yours blamed THEM for sympathizing with their attackers!
And you loved it.
You are just PO’d that a) Osama bin Laden is dead and b) it was only four American lives lost instead of 40 or 400.
No more chickenhawks in power.
But better luck in 2016.
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
“Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
Oh, I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the umpteen thousand posts claiming “if this had been Bush the mainstream media never would have” yadda yadda yadda.
EloiseGM
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
On Day 02 of Benghazi killings…OBAMA, CLINTON, RICE, knowingly lied to the American People. They all blamed an American resident, youtube filmaker, for the Murders, not the Terrorists. Their APOLOGY TOUR, about how horrible American Free Speech is , lasted for 17 days…. “Oh, we’re so sorry, we’re so sorry!! Please forgive us!- we disagree with this hateful video…” BIZARRE! THAT”S what we are upset about. In less than 2 days, the maker of the ‘Video’, was arrested, and JAILED. He’s STILL in JAIL!! While the Murderers walk around Benghazi with smiles on their faces, and chatting to Journalists at the Hotel Cafe. Who’s Side is OBAMA on…? He’s Jailed an American to appease the Jihadists…. and has NO intention of answering back the evildoers, who’s actions, merit, Swift, Brutal, Large, RETALIATION.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I’ve just been watching Fox continue to flay this dead horse. The level of willful stupidity on display is stunning.
Because we cannot expect CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc to follow the story…
RF
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Here we go again. No matter what anyone says, no matter what facts come out, no matter what anyone in the military says could or couldn’t happen in the time frame from when we knew the attack was happening to when it ended, the right will say it’s Obama’s fault. Too many assume they know it, and they don’t need facts.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
As far as I know, there is no statute of limitations on treason. Whatever questions you have for Benghazi should apply to Karachi, Riyadh, Taskkent, Damascus, Athens, Istanbul and others as well. Maybe we can save the taxpayers a few bucks and try both Bush and Obama together.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
MARTY
Was there? In something of this nature you only have a split second in time to react. And, no, I’m not trying to draw a parallel between the two. I’m just saying that the criticism of Obama here is along the same lines of Bush’s critics yapping about him and is reaction in the schoolroom.
Again. my question…what would you have done?
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
As far as I know, there is no statute of limitations on treason. Whatever questions you have for Benghazi should apply to Karachi, Riyadh, Taskkent, Damascus, Athens, Istanbul and others as well. Maybe we can save the taxpayers a few bucks and try both Bush and Obama together.
MaryLS
October 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
“I don’t think Obama’s guilty of high treason.” — Actually I do. I think he is giving weapons to the Muslim Brotherhood — and he will be significantly weakening the US Military. I also think that as more details come out about this (most likely after the election), Obama will be impeached. This is far, far worse than Watergate. If Obama wins, get ready for a Biden Presidency.
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
“Isn’t tracking down, capturing and bringing to trial under the rule of law of the terrorists making a more civilized point? And I am of the opinion that once the Tunisian and Libyan regimes get through with those they see as out to destroy their revolutions, their next attack will be in hell…”
Josef, Bring to trial? How far along are the self admitted 9/11 culprits as far as getting justice.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
So who shall we vote for?
I’m assuming you are calling Romney a chickenhawk, but President Obama has sent more troops overseas than Bush did.
As I recall President Obama does not have a military record to speak of.
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Even the Israelis have had attacks on their embassies resulting in deaths. Nobody takes security more seriously than the Israelis, yet it happened – even with Bibi as Prime Minister.
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
Marty – I think you mean Obama has brought more troops home than Bush did.
barking frog
October 29th, 2012
6:14 pm
Marines are not at embassies
for protection. They are there
to scare off evil spirits with the
dress uniform.
Joe Citizen
October 29th, 2012
6:15 pm
Help me with something please? When did the protection of American citizens on sovereign ground no longer become the responsibility of the commander in chief? I must have missed that change in constitutional law.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Read my earlier post.
I do not have a high enough security level to have enough information to say what I would or would not do.
When all of the facts are released I will make a venture. However it will be based solely on my limited military experience.
As I have said before I had more of an issue with how the situation was handled after the fact and who told the mouthpieces of the administration to continue to falsely claim that it was because of a video.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
ORANGE
The 9/11 ones are in American custody…Tunisia and Libya are a different ball of wax in that arena and they have a lot more riding on getting down to bidness…
ad
@ 6:11
Yep.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Jay
October 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
“Why are we talking about Bush? Last time I checked, he’s no longer President!
Oh, I dunno. Maybe it has something to do with the umpteen thousand posts claiming “if this had been Bush the mainstream media never would have” yadda yadda yadda.
Jay, we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided. To imply otherwise is absolutely disingenuous.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Real Amricans want to get the terrorists.
Wilbur
October 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
45 days after the fact after weeks of BS from Obama blaming a video he knew was not the trigger and weeks of equivocating there OUGHT to be hysteria about a commander in chief being a feeble hairless weenie.
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
The MSM doesn’t care a wit about four dead people, including an Ambassador, if any revelations result reflecting badly on their chosen one, O’bozo.
The MSM got that radical elected, so they have vested interest.
His incompetence matters not. He’s one of them.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided
DownInAlbany,
So where are the links to the main stream media’s critiques Bush’s performance after the attacks listed in my 6:02 post?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
No scandals.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
…we all know that…
Who exactly, granted you the authority to speak on behalf of “all”?
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
MARTY
Which is why I said we can argue before and after, but the while is specious…
Orange12
October 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
“Help me with something please? When did the protection of American citizens on sovereign ground no longer become the responsibility of the commander in chief?”
I think that started 20 Jan. 2009
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
joseph,
It appears from the initial attack until the attack was held off it was around 6 hours.
http://m.factcheck.org/2012/10/benghazi-timeline/
Timeline near bottom.
I do not recall thee being 6 hours between plane crashes in 2001.
yourstruly
October 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Fantastic stories don’t grow out of thin air. They grow when one sector (journalists) fail to ask obvious questions that those responsible (elected officials) ought to answer and have not.
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
cons love them some terrorists.
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:22 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
we all know that the main stream media critiqued every move Bush made, especially after the emotions of 9-11 subsided
DownInAlbany,
So where are the links to the main stream media’s critiques Bush’s performance after the attacks listed in my 6:02 post?
I’ve answered all of your questions I plan to answer…until you man up and answer ONE of mine!
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Me? I think we ought to take the Condi Rice approach…
Dharma Bum
October 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Obama has done a lot of good in the foreign policy department, but this whole Benghazi mess is not helping him.
I would hope that the American people could come together when a terrorist attack like this occurs, but instead partisan hacks on both sides would prefer politicizing the deaths of four Americans.
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
Marty, you figure it out.
With Barry’s very mixed record, Flip could have won this election easily.
But, he is unfit to lead. And the weakest GOP candidate for the White House in 80 years.
Weak, vacillating, unprincipled. And even plenty of people in the GOP know it, though few will publicly admit it.
He is on the greatest fool’s errand in American politics – being a reasonable centrist trying to appease the rabid, lunatic fringe dominated GOP machinery and base.
Thus, he stinks on ice.
So, you Republicans First, Last & Always rubes go ahead and pretend he doesn’t.
And pretend that you are voting FOR him and not just AGAINST the Uppity Muslim…
After this loss, maybe he’ll go away for good…
F. Sinkwich
October 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
“In an interview that aired today, President Obama said that “if we find out that there was a big breakdown and somebody didn’t do their job” regarding the attack on the U.S. outposts in Benghazi, Libya, “then they’ll be held responsible.” ”
Yo, O’bozo, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Putz.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
ORANGE
So, what would, could, should been done in that 4-6 hours which would, could, should have resulted in the rescue of the personnel trapped in the consulate?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
Why did mitt stop?
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
DownInAlbany,
I’m not answering ONE of your questions because you don’t care about the answers. You only care about replacing a Democrat in the White House with a Republican.
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity. Otherwise, your just an opportunistic, Republican voter who cares nothing about the people who were killed in Benghazi and everything about electing more Republicans.
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Dharma Bum
@ 6:23
Yep.
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
your = you’re
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:28 pm
I will go with Hillary Clinton.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity.
But…but…but…Bush was a real ‘murican that I could have a beer with, and SHUT UP!
JamVet
October 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
Yo, O’bozo, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE.
Yep, that is why Osama bin Laden is dead.
Right, Andy?
dubs
October 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country. How DARE you make jokes about a terrorist attack. In case you don’t know an American Embassy is considered American Soil.
I’m not as concerned about what happened that day as I am to Obama’s lies about a “Spontaneous Demonstration” and a youtube video. He says he needs to do a full investigation that will have to wait until after the election, but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.
Marty Huggins'
October 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
ad
October 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
He has done that too be it basically by using the withdrawal times arranged before he took office.
But he has also sent more inform yourself better.
“The deployment of the support troops to Afghanistan brings the total increase approved by Obama to 34,000. The buildup has raised the number of U.S. troops deployed to the war zones of Iraq and Afghanistan above the peak during the Iraq “surge” that President George W. Bush ordered, officials said. [continued...]”
http://warincontext.org/2009/10/13/more-us-troops-deployed-overseas-under-obama-than-bush/
DownInAlbany
October 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
CJ
October 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
DownInAlbany,
I’m not answering ONE of your questions because you don’t care about the answers. You only care about replacing a Democrat in the White House with a Republican.
When you ask the same questions about the attacks made during Bush’s time in office, then I’ll give you credit for integrity. Otherwise, your just an opportunistic, Republican voter who cares nothing about the people who were killed in Benghazi and everything about electing more Republica
No, I want justice for the 4 Americans (not simply “people” as you put it) that were killed…something that you are obviously uninterested in?
Father of Slain Benghazi SEAL to Obama: “It’s Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward”
Do you think this father deserves answers?
Yesterday, former National Security Adviser Bud McFarlane added this on Obama’s non-response to the Benghazi 9-11 terrorist attack:
“To have known what he had available, to have known that Americans were under fire, and to have done nothing, is dereliction of duty that I have never seen in a Commander in Chief from a president of any party. Outrageous.”
josef
October 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
MARY
Obama arming the Muslim Brotherhood? When? Where?
getalife
October 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
No scandals cons.mitt would have many. Mitt will lose.
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
indigo
October 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and, as a result, thousands of Americans have been killed.
4 American civilians died in Benghazi.
This kind of manufactured hysteria is just one of the many proofs that
the far right is desperate for a whiter White House.
Conservative denials of this become more and more hollow with each passing day.
Yep! Lets bring race into it because as we all know it was the Black vote that got him elected, Turd brain.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
Father of Slain SEAL to president: ‘Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward’…
drudgey spam
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
The other half of your brain.
Red card?
Or yellow?
The other half of your brain.
October 29th, 2012
6:36 pm
dubs
October 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
you lefties are pieces of sh*t. You care more about your political party than you do about your country. How DARE you make jokes about a terrorist attack. In case you don’t know an American Embassy is considered American Soil.
I’m not as concerned about what happened that day as I am to Obama’s lies about a “Spontaneous Demonstration” and a youtube video. He says he needs to do a full investigation that will have to wait until after the election, but somehow he and his administration came up with this spontaneous demonstration/youtube clip in a matter of hours and repeated the lies for 10 straight days until they got caught. They LIED.
Dubs, You should never come on here with the truth, because all they will do is call you names.