Colin Powell endorses Obama; Sununu, McCain go nuts

Obama Powell

Yesterday, Colin Powell endorsed Barack Obama for president, explaining that he believes the incumbent has done a good job on the economy given the situation he was handed. As a former secretary of state and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Powell also took serious issue with the foreign policy stances of Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney, saying that ” I’m not quite sure which Governor Romney we would be getting with respect to foreign policy”:

“One day he has a certain strong view about staying in Afghanistan, but then on Monday night he agrees with the withdrawal. Same thing in Iraq. On almost every issue that was discussed on Monday night, Governor Romney agreed with the President with some nuances. But this is quite a different set of foreign policy views than he had earlier in the campaign. And my concern, which I’ve expressed previously in a public way, is that sometimes I don’t sense that he has thought through these issues as thoroughly as he should have, and he gets advice from his campaign staff that he then has to adjust to modify as he goes along.

INTERVIEWER: Are you concerned about the people that are advising Governor Romney?

POWELL: I think there’s some very, very strong neo-conservative views that are presented by the Governor that I have some trouble with. There are other issues as well, not just the economy and foreign policy. I’m more comfortable with President Obama and his administration when it comes to issues like what are we going to do about climate, what are we going to do about immigration? What are we going to do about education? Lots of things like that. I do not want to see the new Obamacare plan thrown off the table. It has issues, you have to fix some things in that plan. But what I see when I look at that plan is 30 million of our fellow citizens will now be covered by insurance. And I think that’s good. We’re one of the few nations in the world, with our size, population and wealth, that does not have universal health care.”

To which John Sununu, top surrogate for Mitt Romney replied:

“When you take a look at Colin Powell, you have to look at whether that’s an endorsement based on issues or he’s got a slightly different reason for endorsing President Obama. I think when you have somebody of your own race that you’re proud of being president of the United States, I applaud Colin for standing with him.”

Earlier in the day, Sen. John McCain lashed out at Powell as well.

“I think one of the sad aspects of his career is going to the United Nations Security Council and telling them things about Iraq that were absolutely false,” McCain said, going on to tell Powell that “you disappoint us and you have harmed your legacy even further by defending what has clearly been the most feckless foreign policy in my lifetime.”

UPDATE: Just in case anybody thought McCain merely had a bad moment, he repeated his childish little sniping today:

“Colin Powell, interestingly enough, said that Obama got us out of Iraq,” McCain said, standing outside of an American Legion hall. “But it was Colin Powell, with his testimony before the U.N. Security Council, that got us into Iraq.”

Sununu’s statement, which he later tried to back down, is deeply troubling. No one alive today possesses Powell’s level of experience at the highest levels of military and foreign policy, yet Sununu attempts to reduce him to a one-dimensional cartoon character motivated solely by racial affinity.

But personally, as I indicated yesterday in comments, McCain’s statement is more unforgivable. For whatever reason, Powell did indeed mislead the United Nations in his presentation regarding Iraq’s alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction, and he has acknowledged that as a blot on his record. But McCain was selling the WMD angle every bit as hard if not harder than Powell. Nobody in Congress was lobbying harder for an invasion of Iraq. Here is McCain in 2002:

Given that record, McCain’s swipe at Powell for his UN presentation comes off as extremely petty, utterly without dignity or integrity. It reveals the smallness of the man who uttered it. All in all, what McCain and Sununu have said tells us much more about their own character than it does about Powell.

– Jay Bookman

883 comments Add your comment

Escaped from Email Purgatory

October 26th, 2012
11:24 am

“Sununu’s statement, which he later tried to back down, is deeply troubling. No one alive today possesses Powell’s level of experience at the highest levels of military and foreign policy, yet Sununu attempts to reduce him to a one-dimensional cartoon character motivated solely by racial affinity.”

Well said Bookman. So continues the silly season of rabid partisan politics. Sununu’s kinda the attack dog for Romney that Anthony Weiner woulda been for Obama if he hadn’t… well, you know.

Heck, you stir the pot from the partisan left with the best of ‘em.

I’m a new reader, so perhaps I need to give it some time before I label you an Obama groupie/unrepentant liberal. So far you walk like one and quack like one.

Here’s a quick test:

1. Do your extremities tingle at the sound of Obama’s voice?
2. Do his many and obvious shortcomings as a leader, manager, statesman and negotiator escape your attention somehow?
3. Does the import of his ethnicity relative to his current office cause you to weep like a teenaged girl viewing Titanic for the umpteenth time?
4. Is the current Misery Index still all Bush’s fault?
5. Does the word “binder” now cause you to cringe with disgust?

if you answer ‘Yes’ to any of these questions, you might be an Obama Groupie.

Attention Republicans

October 26th, 2012
11:24 am

Elephant

October 26th, 2012
11:23 am

thanks for stumbling by…here are a few peanuts(****) for coming over!

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:24 am

Jay,

I’m working while I check the blog here and there sir. Not all of us have all day long every day to opine on your blog.

Seriously? You really expect me to go through a year’s worth of blogs to find your comments about Powell misrepresenting our position on WMDs? If you don’t remember that’s one thing. But are you going to sit there with a straight face and say that with surety that you absolutely never made comments or posted links about Powell misrepresenting the U.S. on WMDs before the U.N.? Really???

Rightwing Troll

October 26th, 2012
11:25 am

I didn’t realize the vietnam draft extended to forign nationals like Kenyans…

GT

October 26th, 2012
11:25 am

People in the open air areas of Atlanta are now saying what Romney said in that primary Republican debate was just politics, he had to say that. Well explain to me why he had to say that, or why he is running for president if he doesn’t believe what he is saying. There is no higher purpose than his obvious selfishness. He tells audiences this week he can do better, this is the only reason he is running, and then what was on his mind back in 2008? His purpose changes like the wind.

Powell worked for a president, named Bush, who gave a good soldier marching orders. He was told lies by that president,who probably looked at Powell as a political token anyway, dispensable to Brush’s real rightwing base, good material to throw under the bus.

The base in the Obama party better wake up, these guys are not even trying to hide their superior bigotry any more They are telling the country, “you can’t trust blacks; they cling together and put their loyalty of race above the country”. The Republican rib up their base of haters doing this kind of communication while they tear down the minority, the woman, the middle class and poor. The GOP will show up in good numbers, while the targets of their hate may stay home. If will take us 20 years to make up for that one day we missed voting, as the right replaces the judges in the Supreme court with white populous who do not believe the constitution is there to protect all Americans. You will wake up the first Wednesday of November like it was 1960 all over again and color bathrooms and water fountains are common. They won’t label them but the spirit of those days will be alive and well. All you had to do was vote, people died in the 60s so you could sit at home? Don’t think so.

Attention Republicans

October 26th, 2012
11:26 am

Please do not call Romney a draft dodger unless you want to tell me why Obama did not serve.

___

what about Mitts 5 boys?

Jefferson

October 26th, 2012
11:26 am

Romney is not the solution, sell out GOP just hate the president. Nothing would change the shallow mind.

Georgia

October 26th, 2012
11:26 am

After the JayKyle video, I realized that I was channeling the wrong voice in my tinfoiled head when I read Jays text. He’s a lovable curmudgeon, who can get mad at him? the correct voice to channel in a tin foil hat is more Andy Rooney, and then “last two marbles”, and “go nuts” are indeed the correct word choices to describe the right’s reaction to events.

Jefferson

October 26th, 2012
11:26 am

Big time draft dodger, bud.

Morality?

October 26th, 2012
11:27 am

Baby Bobo Sucks – it means that I don’t take your B.S. seriously. Go back to your mama’s basement now.

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:27 am

Scout

Powell lives in McLean, VA. So unless you are doing it Democrat style and voting multiple times across multiple states, you sir, are not canceling out his vote.

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:27 am

“Please do not call Romney a draft dodger unless you want to tell me why Obama did not serve. That is hypocritical.

Romney sought and received four different draft deferments. Because the draft had ended by the time Obama came of age, he sought none.

Having said that, I think it’s pretty likely that Obama would have sought deferments as well, under the same circumstances. However, I do not think that Obama would have said years later, as Romney did, that “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”

He longed for it SOOO hard.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 26th, 2012
11:28 am

Skip – and does that make Obama a draft dodger too?

Let’s see, the draft ended in 1973.

Obama was born in 1961 which makes him 12 when the draft ended.

So………….no, Obama was not a draft dodger.

Smarter trolls, please.

Rhett Butler

October 26th, 2012
11:28 am

Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

Tundra Dude

October 26th, 2012
11:28 am

Today for example, Romney now leads in Virgina, Florida, North Carolina and New Hampshire,is even in Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio

Polls,…. Schmolls,,,,,, it’s the Gamblers who’re (almost) always right:

How Gamblers — History’s Most Accurate Election Forecasters — Are Betting on 2012
http://huff.to/RE25MD
(snip)
“The election is more of a marathon, a four-year race.
Short of a huge scandal, I can’t see an outcome other than Obama’s reelection.”

TiredOfIt

October 26th, 2012
11:28 am

Which Romney are you guys voting for?

jj

October 26th, 2012
11:28 am

And the Libs don’t believe that blacks voted, what over 90%, for OB because they did an in depth review of his history, legislative accomplishments, and economic policy and thought he was the best candidate??? PLEASE! Even the Lib media showed black after black stating the only reason they even voted was because they wanted a black president.
I don’t care who Powell votes for, it is his right. The R’s are just pissed off because he left the reservation. And most of Powell’s opinions and stances have changed dramatically from when he was “one of them”.

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Morality

Quit yapping. You sound like Oblama………………… Is that you or is he another blogger that posts the same type baseless tripe?

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2012
11:29 am

and it’s zeal to remain a hyphenated sub culture as opposed to becoming part of the overall culture…

I can’t imagine why, what with millions of kayaker-types waiting to embrace the brown folk with open arms.

Mighty Righty

October 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Here are a few examples of left wing racist remarks pointed at Colin Powell

Obama took an apparent racial swipe at Colin Powell in a 1994 NPR interview in which he implied the four-star general is acceptable to “white America.”

Ads by GoogleEnergy Works
in 1994 was a community organizer and lecturer at the University of Chicago Law School.

WND unearthed an Oct. 28, 1994, interview the future president gave to NPR in response to political scientist Charles Murray’s controversial book “The Bell Curve,” which argues that there are racial differences in intelligence.

Obama then made the remarks about Powell.

“With one finger out to the political wind, Mr. Murray has apparently decided that white America is ready for a return to good old-fashioned racism so long as it’s artfully packaged and can admit for exceptions like Colin Powell,” Obama said.

In 1994, Powell was coming out of a six-year high-profile stint as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, including during the first Gulf War.

Radical black leaders have long taken racial swipes at Powell, accusing him of being a “sell out” and an “Uncle Tom” for joining Republican administrations.

Such anti-Powell rhetoric, for example, was routine for Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who in the 1990s was a regular guest lecturer at Obama’s Trinity United Church. In 1995, Obama, Wright and Al Sharpton marched in Farrakhan’s Oct. 16 Million Man March.

In an Oct. 24, 1989, Washington, D.C., speech, Farrakhan even claimed Powell was planning “a war against the black people of America.”

To this day, Farrakhan still sounds off about Powell. In an address in April, the extremist preacher called Powell “a black man in front of a policy to kill black people.”

In the same speech, Farrakhan stated both Obama and Powell want a “pat on the back” from their “former slave-masters and their children.”

In a May 2003 speech sponsored by Harvard Law School, Sharpton likened Powell and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to subservient house slaves.

In a 2007 Tennessee speech, Sharpton was asked by an audience member whether Powell and Rice are “house Negros.”

Sharpton replied: “I don’t know that they are viewed as house Negros in the term. I believe that they are in the house and the rest of us are in the field. So it would not be an inaccurate description.”

In 2002, actor and activist Harry Belafonte compared Powell to a plantation slave who moves into the slave owner’s house and says only things that will please his master.

“Colin Powell’s committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.”

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Mitt served his loyalties well in the French countryside.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:30 am

They BOTH suck @ 11:23

Very observant on your part and I have argued that before. Actually, depending on the state he votes in my vote might even “count more” as part of the EC.

I was speaking “rhetorically”.

Marty Huggins'

October 26th, 2012
11:31 am

Barney Frank-
“I now understand why they call themselves Log Cabin: Their role model is Uncle Tom.” He repeated it when addressing the Democratic National Convention’s LGBT Caucus Thursday: “I am again inclined to think that they’re called the Log Cabin club because their role model is Uncle Tom”

But it’s just those racist republicans who engage in this type of childish sophomoric behavior.

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:31 am

JAY,

Goose and gander daddio! If you don’t want folks to put words in your mouth (you are never vile to be sure)the set a good example…just yesterday you re-worded at least two of my comments..just saying:-)

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:31 am

The REAL draft dodger (evader) was Clinton.

“He longed for it SOOO hard.”

As I am sure you did for your lack of service also Jay.

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:32 am

Morality

Do you ever do write ins or vote straight Republican?

A TAT

October 26th, 2012
11:32 am

I’m more comfortable with President Obama and his administration when it comes to issues like what are we going to do about climate, what are we going to do about immigration? What are we going to do about education? Lots of things like that. I do not want to see the new Obamacare plan thrown off the table.

I don’t see much that’s conservative shining through.

=======================================

Before Tiger Woods became a tabloid fixture, thanks to a string of infidelities with a slew of blondes, the most controversy he sparked involved his racial identity. In 1997, during an appearance on “The Oprah Winfrey Show,” Woods declared that he did not view himself as black but as “Cablinasian.” The term Woods coined to describe himself stands for each of the ethnic groups that make up his racial heritage—Caucasian, black, Indian (as in Native American) and Asian.

After Woods made this declaration, members of the black community were livid. Colin Powell, for one, weighed in on the controversy by remarking, “In America, which I love from the depths of my heart and soul, when you look like me, you’re black.”

After his “Cablinasian” remark, Woods was largely seen as a race-traitor, or at the very least, someone aiming to distance himself from blackness.

So on the the one-hand (liberal), we’re supposed to embrace our diversity/multi-culturalism…on the other hand (liberal), we’re supposed to embrace one race exclusively?

The great wonder of wonders.

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2012
11:32 am

“Colin Powell’s committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.”

Good prediction by Harry.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:32 am

“Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier, or not having been at sea.”

Samuel Johnson

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:33 am

“But are you going to sit there with a straight face and say that with surety that you absolutely never made comments or posted links about Powell misrepresenting the U.S. on WMDs before the U.N.? Really???

I never made any such claim, Thulsa. I’m certain that I did write about it at the time.

However, I did not suggest or imply that Powell lacked honesty or character, as you earlier stated. Nor did I suggest or imply that Powell purposely misrepresented the facts, as you also stated earlier.

The truth is that you got caught red-handed making stuff up that you cannot substantiate and that are not true.

Period.

St Simons

October 26th, 2012
11:33 am

then I’m sure Sununubooboo will understand why the stsimons family
will vote fer E Warren in ‘16. Whoop-whoop! where’s my tommyhawk

Mitt Romney's son Tagg

October 26th, 2012
11:34 am

Tagg: I was so angry when Obama called by daddy a liar…I wanted to go down on that stage and punch him…

Tagg: why I will never serve in the U.S. Military

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL9F-dfPyD4&feature=related

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:34 am

Scout

I figured you were speaking rhetorically because I have seen you speak of the EC before, but wanted to mess with because I was sure Powell didn’t live in GA

Michael

October 26th, 2012
11:34 am

When Mitt Romney said Russia was our greatest geo political threat, he lost Colin Powell’s support. In fact Powell said something to the effect that he didn’t think Mitt was serious about international matters.
The biggest difference between Sununu, McCain, and Powell is that Powell was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs during Operation Desert Storm. He stands next to Eisenhower as one of the most successful generals in the army’s history. By the way there are also Eisenhowers that have endorsed Obama. And, I don’t think they were racially motivated.

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:35 am

If the draft was still on in my day and we were in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq or Afghanistan….all wars we never needed to fight, I’d be living in Vancouver or Toronto about now..I would have rushed to be part of WWII but not WWI..I’ve become pacifist in my middle age…

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2012
11:35 am

Cons that served in Vietnam are obviously so grateful to have had Mitt there in France protecting them from a sneak invasion. Those dastardly French.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 26th, 2012
11:35 am

Tiger Woods, now!?

Colins, and Tigers and Jacksons, OH MY!

Morality?

October 26th, 2012
11:35 am

And there you go again “dodging” my question. What is Obama’s extensive military experience? Obama avoided the military like Romney by not joining but that does not make you a “draft dodger”. Neither Romney nor Obama is a draft dodger and neither Obama nor Romney served in the military. Calling Romney a “draft dodger” is a lie. As for Obama being born in Kenya? I have no idea of where he was born as I have seen no birth certificate to date and Obama hasn’t made an attempt to collect that easy $5 million from Trump. Man, if I had the proof I would be on that $ 5 million in a second. Which brings one to the question – why hasn’t Obama collected yet?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:36 am

“Cons that served in Vietnam are obviously so grateful to have had Mitt there in France protecting them from a sneak invasion. Those dastardly French.”

…………… and Billy Boy at Oxford !

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:37 am

Scout

Outside of Romney losing VA by one vote, all this back and forth about Powell voting for Obama really doesn’t mean that much imo.

I think Romney is going win VA regardless.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:37 am

They BOTH suck:

I hear you ………. you got me ………….. :o

getalife

October 26th, 2012
11:37 am

I can’t believe how the cons fight for such a spineless man as mitt romney.

It shows how weak and fragile our cons really are.

Be delicate with our cons because they are just precious white flowers.

Buckshot

October 26th, 2012
11:37 am

Lord help us, the O-zombies are out in force before Halloween.

Mitt Romney's son Tagg

October 26th, 2012
11:37 am

…………… and Billy Boy at Oxford !

___

as well as those that pretend to have served.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:38 am

They BOTH suck:

I hear you but Powell can sway a lot of mindless people.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Mitt Romney’s son Tagg:

Absolutely ! Stolen Valor …………….

Keep Up the Good Fight! -- Super Liberal!

October 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Jay to Doom: The truth is that you got caught red-handed making stuff up that you cannot substantiate and that are not true. Period.

Another smackdown. Boom! :lol: Not the first time.

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Go ahead and call me a racist that is what you libs do when people do not agree with you. Why get so upset when someone talks about the 47%(that depend on the govt’s support with tax-payers money) and when 95% of black people choose to vote for the black candidate? Why doesn’t 95% of white people vote for the white candidate? Actually Obama is half white and black, right? I do not think his policies on the economy and jobs ,debt, etc is heading this country in the right direction for our children and grandchildren. It seems as though libs just want to live for today and has no concern for the future. Hell, if Bill Clinton or Herman Cain was running for Pres, I’d vote for them over Obama! Actually, I have a lot of respect for that black movie star, who said he is voting for him because he is black also. If that is the reason, say it and move on instead of the constant BS we hear.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 26th, 2012
11:41 am

A TAT: “I don’t see much that’s conservative shining through.”

Are you saying ‘conservatives’ don’t give a crap about the climate and the destruction of the planet?

Wow, that’s some ‘conservatism’ if it doesn’t give a rat’s a$$ about something as central to civilization as the planet on which it takes place.

getalife

October 26th, 2012
11:42 am

scout,

You got meat loaf.

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:42 am

“Nor did I suggest or imply that Powell purposely misrepresented the facts, as you also stated earlier.”

Um. Yes. You did. And you provided links to support your conclusion. And I believe that you do in fact remember this.

“The truth is that you got caught red-handed making stuff up that you cannot substantiate and that are not true.”

Nope. I stand by my assertion. The real truth is that you know I’m not going to go through a year’s worth of archives just to prove you wrong. Period.

Last thing and we’ll let this go. Are you saying that you never even posted a link saying that Powell admits that the U.S. misrepresented WMDs to the U.N. Are you saying that you never posted a link similar to this one on that speech?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500164_162-577975.

getalife

October 26th, 2012
11:42 am

Ok Tom,

You are a racist.

Keep Up the Good Fight! -- Super Liberal!

October 26th, 2012
11:43 am

Morality: I have no idea of where he was born as I have seen no birth certificate to date

Birthers :rolls:

Welcome to the Occupation

October 26th, 2012
11:43 am

Tom: “..and when 95% of black people choose to vote for the black candidate? ”

But in saying this you’re trying to distract from the fact that percentages of whites in the South will vote for the non-Obama.

What’s the diff?

TiredOfIt

October 26th, 2012
11:43 am

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:44 am

Jay’s definitely got some cheerleaders- or sycophants.

Marty Huggins'

October 26th, 2012
11:44 am

Jay
October 26th, 2012
11:17 am

No Jay I didn’t make anything up.

Nor did I it ore the actions of others as you so so love to do.
Easy to talk down on what republicans do, but where are you to impact your party of choice?

You care nothing about her comments of she won’t let the white boys win.

What other than calling him one who does not care about his race is she meaning when she claims Colin Powell would rather take pictures with black kids than to worry about feeding them?

Nah nothing from you on that nothing! Wonder why?
Cause you don’t want to take that on?

If you allow Obamaphone to be used as a racial term and a code word how can her quotes not be?

Ah yes she is a democrat and in your world entitled to much more leeway.

I made nothing up, that is my interpretation of her quote.

You want to approach the quote of Barney Frank about Log Cabin republicans or is that a little to sensative for you to approach?

If you want to be rude sir I can play as rude as any.

So why the selectivness in your outrage?

Is it for money( as in it’s your job you don’t have a choice)

Is it hypocrisy

Or are you just a bitter partisan who is incapable of looking at those with whom he agrees under the same microscope as those he agrees with.

If so it makes you as small and little as the two men you chose to call exactly that in your piece.

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
11:44 am

Scout

Of course I could be dead wrong and Obama takes a beat down as some on here have indicated that he will, however my prediction is Obama, 281 to 257. And it will not surprise me if Romney wins the popular vote.

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:45 am

“Man, if I had the proof I would be on that $ 5 million in a second. Which brings one to the question – why hasn’t Obama collected yet?

Because as president, he won’t be baited into cooperating with a publicity stunt by an amoral charlatan, that’s why.

Keep Up the Good Fight! -- Super Liberal!

October 26th, 2012
11:45 am

Nope. I stand by my assertion. The real truth is that you know I’m not going to go through a year’s worth of archives just to prove you wrong. Period.

Speedochicken clucks and runs as predicted. :lol:

Mary Elizabeth

October 26th, 2012
11:47 am

What concerns me about Romney’s military deferrents is not that he asked for them, but the fact that he would send other young Americans into harm’s way in war – without the same prudence of thought that President Obama has shown, imo. Those American lives, and the lives of others throughout the world, have as much value has does Gov. Romney’s life. A president with an egalitarian vision of all human beings would recognize that.

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:47 am

Welcome to the Occupation

October 26th, 2012
11:48 am

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

It’s clear that the fact that African Americans will vote for Obama in percentages approaching 3 figures drives you start raving nuts-o.

And of course, barring a last minute revelation that Mitt Romney is leading a Jerry Sandusky-type double life, Romney can count on receiving close to the same percentage of votes from white Southerners, too. Ah the funny little symmetries of the political world.

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:48 am

“Last thing and we’ll let this go. Are you saying that you never even posted a link saying that Powell admits that the U.S. misrepresented WMDs to the U.N. Are you saying that you never posted a link similar to this one on that speech?

No. I am NOT saying that. You once again attempt to put words into my mouth. It didn’t work the first time and it won’t work this time.

Seriously, you’re making a bigger and bigger inflated fool of yourself with every post. Keep it up and come Thanksgiving, they’ll be marching you down Fifth Avenue for the Macy’s Parade along with all the other hot-air balloons.

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:49 am

Hmmmm…Tiger Woods and Trump…birds of a feather..slimey both of them..

Krystal'sBalls

October 26th, 2012
11:49 am

@Rightwing Troll
October 26th, 2012
11:21 am

Thanks for making my case FOR me. I seemingly brought it ALL UP AND OUT of you, and that’s a good thing for us all to see.

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:49 am

“Because as president, he won’t be baited into cooperating with a publicity stunt by an amoral charlatan, that’s why.”

Funny to see Jay demanding proof of me while at the same time stating that Obama shouldn’t provide proof or the documents Trump asked for. Irony. Somewhere a charity could sure use 5 million dollars.

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:50 am

No Jay I didn’t make anything up.

Yes Marty. You did. You claimed that Donna Brazile called Powell an Uncle Tom. She did not. You made it up.

What part of objective reality do you guys not comprehend?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:51 am

They BOTH suck:

You may be right. I pray sincerely not.

Time will tell.

Off to the Dog Park !

Morality?

October 26th, 2012
11:51 am

Baby Boo Boo Sucks – I have voted straight Repub at times when the alternative was “run away big spending and taxing Dems” and I have, but rarely voted for a Dem and I did vote for Ross Perot. I am a fiscal conservative. I did not vote for Obama or “W” because they are obviously not fiscal conservatives. My problem with “W” was he signed away our future with huge debts on the big spending programs the Dems wanted in order to get their cooperation on Iraq and it’s funding. Yes, the Dems vote to go in to Iraq and fund it financially but only when “W” agreed to let them have their way on big spending socialist programs at home. Now your time to be honest – have you always voted a straight line Dem ticket? Be specific. I know you voted Obama last time and will this time. Are you a fiscal big spending lib or just one socially? I am Morality? Don’t use any other name on this site. However, I do know that you have used additional sock puppets in the past.

Erwin's cat

October 26th, 2012
11:51 am

Attn Reps – what about Mitts 5 boys?

what about them?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:52 am

“What part of objective reality do you guys not comprehend?”

JAY BOOKMAN: “The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:52 am

Jay,

Why are you afraid to answer the question Jay? Its a simple question. Did you or did you not post a link similar to the one I posted where Powell supposedly misled the U.N. on the WMDs? Yes or No?

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 26th, 2012
11:52 am

Now ……….. off to the Dog Park !

Regnad Kcin

October 26th, 2012
11:53 am

” Man, if I had the proof I would be on that $ 5 million in a second. Which brings one to the question – why hasn’t Obama collected yet?”

Perhaps greed is not his sole motivator. Is it yours?

Miss J

October 26th, 2012
11:53 am

Wow..see that’s the issue with our political climate today..we can’t agree to disagree with each other; and when we do, we start the personal attacks.

Question.

How can you be a true conservative and believe that we live in a free society and all of us have rights.

It seems that the right is all right with you if.
1. You were born here (LOL although we are a nation of immigrants)
2. You only speak English
3. You don’t believe in abortion (or a woman’s right to choose)
4. You don’t believe in gay marriage (if anyone knows their western civilization history – you will know that the idea of marriage was created by man (sanctioned by the church) to reduce the all of the promiscuity that was going on during that time
5. You believe what we believe period……..

Damn, there goes the idea of a free society…..

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:53 am

JAY,

Good fun to watch you and THULSA spar….every time you respond you give his argument more relevancy….

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2012
11:53 am

Keep it up and come Thanksgiving, they’ll be marching you down Fifth Avenue for the Macy’s Parade along with all the other hot-air balloons.

For once in my life I’m grateful for FCC regulations protecting us from such horrors. :)

Max Spender

October 26th, 2012
11:54 am

On McCains side, All Republicans agree to pay back the $5 Trillon Bush borrowed. On Powell’s side All Democrats agree to pay back the $5 Trillion Obama has borrowed, and we call it a draw and watch America thrive again!!!! Oh, I forgot, that’s up to our politicians, thanks for playing!!!

Thulsa Doom

October 26th, 2012
11:55 am

“What part of objective reality do you guys not comprehend?”

From the guy who stuck to the idea that Mark Nutter’s ridiculous marketwatch article on Obama spending was a credible, objective article.

TiredOfIt

October 26th, 2012
11:55 am

In an interview with the Times in 2007, Romney said: “There were surely times on my mission when I was having a particularly difficult time accomplishing very little when I would have longed for the chance to be serving in the military, but that was not to be.”

Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)

October 26th, 2012
11:55 am

Rf@11:11- Looks like to me he was talking about the difference in education of both people. You want to go wet your panties and turn it into something racial! Some,not all, of you libs are pathetic!

Keep Up the Good Fight! -- Super Liberal!

October 26th, 2012
11:55 am

Man, if I had the proof I would be on that $ 5 million in a second. Which brings one to the question – why hasn’t Obama collected yet?

Why has Trump not collected on Colbert’s offer of $1 million for a charity of Trump’s choice? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/colbert-trump-balls-mouth-video_n_2016385.html

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
11:55 am

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801,

Yes is was an act of terror…wait no it is not an act of terror…wait again yes it is a terror act..wait is was premeditated..wait it wasn’t premeditated….reminds me of the teacup ride at Disney..

Marty Huggins'

October 26th, 2012
11:56 am

“  Such an outcome could mean only one of two things: Either our intelligence apparatus is more incompetent than we had dreamed possible, or we were lied to on a massive scale by our own government to lure us into war.”

“  If U.S. intelligence was truly that detailed, it is inconceivable that tons of WMD could have been destroyed or shipped to Syria right before the war without detection.

  If we fail to find WMD, it’s because they didn’t exist.”

http://archive.truthout.org/article/trust-leaders-lost-if-no-wmds-found

This is from your AJC article

“Trust in Leaders Lost if No WMDs Found
by:   |  

  Trust in Leaders is Lost if WMD Are Not Found
  The Atlanta Journal Constitution
  By Jay Bookman

  Thursday 22 May 2003″

So Jay do you trust Colin Powell now since none were found or were you just writing something to collect a paycheck?

Maybe he has shown you that he is indeed trustworthy since he has endorsed Obama now?

You do seem to be questioning Powell’s charecter in this article.

But would be another example of you being more like Romney than you want to admit.

RB from Gwinnett

October 26th, 2012
11:57 am

Jay, back up your claim of racists. Who and what evidence?

Oscar

October 26th, 2012
11:58 am

GOP headline: Powell cohooses black man for President.”

Erwin's cat

October 26th, 2012
11:58 am

ME – President Obama has shown, imo. Those American lives, and the lives of others throughout the world, have as much value has does Gov. Romney’s life. A president with an egalitarian vision of all human beings would recognize that.

You do realize more US soldiers were KIA in Afghanistan under Obama’s administration than Bush don’t you?? I don’t believe any President at anytime takes any comfort in putting our boys in harms way for any moment what so ever….Romney is no more a war monger than Obama or any other president in history…

Doggone/GA

October 26th, 2012
11:59 am

“you will know that the idea of marriage was created by man (sanctioned by the church) to reduce the all of the promiscuity that was going on during that time”

Actually that was only a small part of it. Marriage was “invented” primarily to control inheritance and to protect the spouse and any children of that marriage. In fact, the first know reference to marriage is in a LEGAL document. Marriage was ENCOURAGED, esepecially during the Middle Ages, because there were so many non-married couples living together and so many people died and “remarried” that inheritance was a tangled mess…especially among the rich and powerful.

Jay

October 26th, 2012
11:59 am

Marty, if you had found statements by me in that article questioning Powell’s character or honesty, you would have posted them.

Correct?

Yet you did not. You instead try to pretend that you did.

You people are something.

Escaped from Email Purgatory

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

@GT says : “People in the open air areas of Atlanta are now saying what Romney said in that primary Republican debate was just politics, he had to say that. ”

Respectfully sir (or madam – no slur intended), President Obama is every bit the politician that Romney is. And that’s not meant as a compliment. Clearly, there are numerous inconsistencies between Candidate Obama’s word and President Obama’s deed. I’ll give you just one: “I’m different from other politicians. I’ll lead a transparent government.”

And the people to whom you attribute the reason for Romney’s evolving positions are correct. The biggest problem with the current primary system is that the aspiring standard bearers have to appease the extremists in order to win their respective nomination.

Romney’s Achilles’ heel is the uber-right’s extreme stance on social issues. It plays fine before the true believers, but it doesn’t fly with mainstream voters. Unfortunately for Mitt, he’s not speaking to the mainstream until he wins the nomination. But if you look at his history – particularly when he was governor of Massachusetts, he’s a moderate on many issues.

The only reasons Romney isn’t running away with this election are:

* the GOP’s inability to effectively articulate their message (opportunity, strong nation al defense, fiscal discipline, hard work) to the mass electorate and

* the Dems ability to exploit the GOP’s hardline stance on some social issues.

* And race. President Obama’s ethnicity guarantees him the vast majority of black votes.

RB from Gwinnett

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

DannyX, lots of minorities hold positions in Gwinnett too.

Escaped from Email Purgatory

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

@GT says : “People in the open air areas of Atlanta are now saying what Romney said in that primary Republican debate was just politics, he had to say that. ”

Respectfully sir (or madam – no slur intended), President Obama is every bit the politician that Romney is. And that’s not meant as a compliment. Clearly, there are numerous inconsistencies between Candidate Obama’s word and President Obama’s deed. I’ll give you just one: “I’m different from other politicians. I’ll lead a transparent government.”

And the people to whom you attribute the reason for Romney’s evolving positions are correct. The biggest problem with the current primary system is that the aspiring standard bearers have to appease the extremists in order to win their respective nomination.

Romney’s Achilles’ heel is the uber-right’s extreme stance on social issues. It plays fine before the true believers, but it doesn’t fly with mainstream voters. Unfortunately for Mitt, he’s not speaking to the mainstream until he wins the nomination. But if you look at his history – particularly when he was governor of Massachusetts, he’s a moderate on many issues.

The only reasons Romney isn’t running away with this election are:

* the GOP’s inability to effectively articulate their message (opportunity, strong nation al defense, fiscal discipline, hard work) to the mass electorate and

* the Dems ability to exploit the GOP’s hardline stance on some social issues.

* And race. President Obama’s ethnicity guarantees him the vast majority of black votes.

They BOTH suck

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

Morality The Cry Baby King

1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Clinton
2000: Browne
2004: Kerry
2008: Clinton
2012: Obama

Outside of 1988 when I voted straight Republican (didn’t know any better to be honest), I never vote a straight ticket.

Not sure if you read my post to Scout earlier. I voted for a few Republicans last week. Again, not as much for their political views as it was based on their opponent not being worth my vote.

Marty Huggins'

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

Jay
October 26th, 2012
11:50 am

No Jay just because you say it is so does not make it so.

I certainly interpret her comments about black children as calling him an uncle Tom. Kinda why I didn’t put it in quotes, one would think being a journalist and all you would know that meant I was not quoting her.

Now would you like to discuss how Colin Powell was proved to be Untrustworthy then but is trustworthy now? They were your words or how Barney Trank called the Log Cabin Republicans Uncle Toms directly?

Jay

October 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

RB, look — quickly now, because it won’t be there long — at the post just above yours from the one-time longtime poster here “TruthBe.”

STEVIE RAY

October 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

MISSJ

Ok…

I guess if you vote DEM it is ok to be here illegally, ok to not follow up on promises, ok to allow big money and the lobbyist to continue to run the DC agenda, ok to assasinate without due process/killing innocents in the process…sending a message to world it is now an approved action (defense action alledgely, ok to make all victims of one class with the remedy not addressing but 8% of problem…(the savings is already spent), its ok to pass a HC bill in cahoots with insurers and providers despite public opinion to the contrary…blah blah blah

They are all the same..he’s just another self serving and BS’ing politician who represents a continance of the status quo..

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

You people are something.

Desperate.

sam

October 26th, 2012
12:03 pm

you guys do realize thats not really Jay responding to your posts, right? its a very fat lady in a moo-moo, smoking a cigarette. they pay her 5 bucks an hour

getalife

October 26th, 2012
12:03 pm