The right wing is losing its last two marbles over Benghazi
Former Secretary of State Condi Rice went on Fox News Wednesday to discuss the Obama administration’s handling of the Benghazi attacks. Given her background and experience, she actually knows a thing or two about such issues, and it showed in her comments.
“When things are unfolding very very quickly, it’s not always easy to know what’s going on on the ground…,” she told Greta Van Susteren. “There’s a big picture to be examined here but we don’t have all of the pieces and I think it’s easy to try to jump to conclusions about what happened here. It’s probably better to let the relevent (investigative) bodies do their work.”
“The problem is when there is a fog of war like this, there are a lot of competing stories coming in, there’s a lot a competing information coming in, and it takes a little while to know precisely what has happened,” she went on to explain.
Even now, a month later, what Rice refers to as “the fog of war” has yet to lift. It took 10 days after the attack to even get FBI agents on the ground in Benghazi. To this day, there are still indications that the anti-Muslim video and the protests in Egypt played some role in what happened. There are still serious doubts whether the local militia group believed responsible has any ties whatsoever to al Qaida. And there is very good reason to believe that the attack was a crime of opportunity rather than some carefully planned military operation.
All in all, the tumult on the right about this story probably has the lowest content-to-noise ratio of any of the fake outrages fabricated so far by the right-wing media, and yes, I understand that’s saying a lot. Conservatives can’t even articulate what they’re mad about, only that they’re mad and somehow it’s Obama’s fault.
Michael Hirsh, a journalist with extensive overseas and warzone experience, does a good job of putting the fake scandal in context in a piece for National Journal. Take, for example, the newly released e-mails in which the State Department was notified that an Islamist group had claimed credit on Facebook for the Benghazi attacks. (The Facebook posting also called for an attack on the embassy in Tripoli, which never took place).
As Hirsh notes:
“The e-mails in question contained nothing more than “raw” intelligence, uncorroborated and unverified, that often flows in after an event. Intelligence officials typically don’t deliver their assessments until they have “finished” reports based on multiple sources, and corroborated evidence, and Obama officials such as (UN Ambassador Susan) Rice certainly would not have been out in front of the TV cameras citing raw intelligence. And as the government’s most senior officials say, the Benghazi case has taken them a long time to finish. “People forget that a Palestinian group was the first to claim credit for 9/11,” the intelligence official said. “There was no message from the field in those first hectic days that would have eliminated questions or proven who was behind the attack.”
He can believe him, or you can believe what the Sean Hannitys of the world are saying, which goes something like this:
– Jay Bookman
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stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
5:56 am
mornin’.
They’ve been desperately wanting a scandal for 4 years, that’s why they keep making up Watergate events…
Four years? More like… lessee, Jan. 1977 was… about 36 years, let’s call it.
I’ve long held that many GOP supporters hold a very long-standing grudge–it’s actually inherited at this point, since it has been so long–over Nixon’s resignation. I realize that this is me indulging in a bit of collective mind-reading, but it’s something I’ve heard in dribs and drabs from conservatives over and over again, over the years.
I think it is only natural to feel that a score needs to be settled, and that they are entitled to take down one of “ours” after one of “theirs” had been more or less forcibly removed.
Of course the “forcible” part is part of the mythology–we are supposed to believe, from some, that Nixon’s resignation was voluntary, that he chose not to put the country through a fight he could’ve won, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that he was in fact going to be convicted in the Senate and had been told so by those GOP colleagues.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
6:13 am
Stands: There is no rationalization, they have just gone batsht crazy.
Peter
October 26th, 2012
6:30 am
The Republican’s are voting for a tax nightmare !!!!!!!
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No white paper or policy manifesto put out during the presidential campaign has proved more controversial than an August study by the Washington-based Tax Policy Center, a respected nonprofit that issues studiously detailed tax analyses.
That study found, in short, that Mr. Romney could not keep all of the promises he had made on individual tax reform: including cutting marginal tax rates by 20 percent, keeping protections for investment income, not widening the deficit and not increasing the tax burden on the poor or middle class.
It concluded that Mr. Romney’s plan, on its face, would cut taxes for rich families and raise them for everyone else.
Tina Trent
October 26th, 2012
6:39 am
Sorry Ken. You’re shockingly wrong, and you’ve really crossed a line talking like this.
Our executive branch is trying to blame Americans for an act of terroristic violence by others. The fact that Obama and his crew even approach this event with such a mindset is appalling. The fact that they hung their hat on this crude explanation, not once, but repeatedly, and not in the absence of facts but in spite of the facts exposes a deep and troubling propensity on the Obama’s part.
Even if the attackers were waving copies of that video, our president should have denounced them for trying to hide their actions behind such a smokescreen. He should have denounced them for trying to blame others for their actions, not joined them in doing so.
But the terrorists weren’t waving copies of that video, either. You can pretend they were in order to keep that false narrative going. This is clearly your choice. So let’s be very clear about the choice you’re making here, which is a choice even Obama is now hiding from because it didn’t work this time. You’re choosing to defend people who staged a terrorist attack on our country on the grounds that our society’s alleged acceptance of Islamophobic speech by one individual legitimates killing our ambassador.
That’s a sickening attitude for a newspaper columnist to hold. But it’s even more sickening when the story itself is fabricated to begin with, because it reveals a very ingrained and reflexive desire to blame Americans despite the facts.
And that is what the “right wing” is objecting to.
One more thing, regarding marbles: at the bare minimum, you ought to show you political opponents at least as much respect as you do, say, terrorists you think have murdered people because they’re mad about a video. In other words, when you address the political revulsion to Obama’s scapegoating of Americans for the Benghazi attack, at the very least acknowledge your opponents’ real complaint. If you can peer into the heart of a mob half way around the world and empathize with what you see there, surely you can perceive and engage a simple argument being made about foreign policy in American editorial pages. To pretend that there is no such complaint and that irrationality is all you’re seeing is pretty ironic, considering the subject.
bob
October 26th, 2012
7:19 am
It was over a video, Obama said so, he wouldn’t lie.
MadMax
October 26th, 2012
7:19 am
To this day, there are still indications that the anti-Muslim video and the protests in Egypt played some role in what happened. There are still serious doubts whether the local militia group believed responsible has any ties whatsoever to al Qaida. And there is very good reason to believe that the attack was a crime of opportunity rather than some carefully planned military operation.
Really? On what basis do you make those claims Jay?
MadMax
October 26th, 2012
7:27 am
Our president likes to mull things over until, maybe after the election and please, at all costs never say a word against Islam such as associating terrorists with them. We were attacked by an organized terrorist group of Islamic radicals. Oh no can’t say that for fear of spreading hatred. Guess what President Obama and Jay, those folks already hate us and cowtowing to them and ignoring it and not saying Islamic terrorists is not going to change their minds of us.
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
7:31 am
‘Really? On what basis do you make those claims Jay?’
Umm, the CIA assessment…take it up with David Patreas if you have a problem…
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
7:33 am
The Rightwing has lost it’s marbles to be sure.
Thank heavens the Leftwing has some serious stones.
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
7:34 am
‘You’re choosing to defend people who staged a terrorist attack on our country on the grounds that our society’s alleged acceptance of Islamophobic speech by one individual legitimates killing our ambassador.’
Holy cow…it’s a whole ARMY of strawmen. Reality can be your friend…try it.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
7:35 am
There was some reaction to a way-upthread post of mine where I boldly asserted that I don’t think Mitt Romney is a stupid person, generally from those of my general ideological ilk who said they didn’t think that GW Bush was stupid, either.
For what it’s worth, I agree with them. I never bought into the somewhat-popular-at-the-time notion that Bush 43 was merely a literal fortunate (grand) son; obviously he had political chops and could think on his feet when called upon to do so, as anyone who viewed his debate performance with Ann Richards can attest. My knock against GW Bush was that he was intellectually lazy–he did what he had to do but (AFAIK) never much more, and as President it often showed.
Peter
October 26th, 2012
7:36 am
Lord Help Us . Why don’t you tell us how Republican’s have made America SAFE ?
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
7:37 am
at all costs never say a word against Islam
Why, pray tell, should he? What purpose would have been served if, for example, Bill Clinton had decided that the NATO mission was a war on Serbian Christians, and he took that opportunity to knock Christianity?
Jeez. Think, please.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
7:39 am
dB: My problem with President Bush is that when offered good advise and bad advise he ALWAYS followed the bad advise. He surrounded himself with the “advisers” his dad ignored and ignored the advisers his dad listened too, like Colin Powell.
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
7:40 am
‘Why don’t you tell us how Republican’s have made America SAFE ?’
By fighting them ‘over there so we don’t have to fight them over here?’
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
7:45 am
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
7:40 am
‘Why don’t you tell us how Republican’s have made America SAFE ?’
By fighting them ‘over there so we don’t have to fight them over here?’
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and yet we have a rather substantial body count…
Lord Help You
Occupy White House
October 26th, 2012
7:45 am
Let’s be clear, the main reason it’s a none issue to Lefty is
because the current occupant of 1600 Penn Av
has a “D” by his name on ballot box. Plain & Simple.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
7:45 am
By fighting them ‘over there so we don’t have to fight them over here?’
Really? SO I guess the wind blew them there twin towers down?
Besides, are we expected to believe that we would have mass flights of C130’s air dropping goat herders over here if we weren’t over there? Really? Or maybe they would mount an amphibious assault……….
loyd george
October 26th, 2012
7:45 am
Funny thing about loosing an opinion “pole” of comptetency: in my day if those having to defend their position are still doing it weeks later,the opposition usually won the issue—-
Granny thinks we on the left have serious “stones”, how quaint, I don’t know what sunk us(the left for you yanks), perhaps the excess weight….
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
7:47 am
Occupy White House
October 26th, 2012
7:45 am
Let’s be clear, the main reason it’s a none issue to Lefty is
because the current occupant of 1600 Penn Av
has a “D” by his name on ballot box. Plain & Simple.
+++++++++++++++++++
Ya just can’t cure stupid. Oh well only 44 more minutes of recycled talk radio trash until Neal goes on the air to give the sheeple more things to lie about………
fair and balanced
October 26th, 2012
7:49 am
I hear Rove and the Koch brothers funded that video to embarrass Obama- great
campaign tactic.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
7:50 am
My problem with President Bush is that when offered good advise and bad advise he ALWAYS followed the bad advise.
Yes. And that is a symptom of the overarching flaw I’d just identified. When you are intellectually lazy, you don’t bother to seek out opposing views and, as President Obama likes to say, “take yourself out of your comfort zone.”
A public official does not choose not to seek out alternative views out of ideological rigidity, I think, so much out of laziness. So let’s call that what it is.
Again–if you read “Audacity of Hope” you find many examples of Obama trying (overly hard, IMHO) to see the merit in an opposing argument.
And to state the bleedin’ obvious, had Bush shared some of that curiosity (another word some people like to use, with merit) we may well have been spared the tragedy of the Iraq invasion and occupation.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
7:50 am
Funny thing about loosing an opinion “pole” of comptetency:
Loosing or LOSING? Pole or POLL? Comtetency or competency? I don’t usually question typo’s but there are so many there I have no clue as to what you are trying to say. Maybe THAT’S why you lost your seat in 1922………
TiredOfIt
October 26th, 2012
7:51 am
Nothing surprises me from the pro-rape party.
Moon Mullins
October 26th, 2012
7:51 am
Any American lives lost are too many, but I don’t remember this much concern and pathos afforded the 235 Marines and Sailors lost in the Beruit bombing during the Reagan administration.
And, I would ask if anyone remembers the Reagan response to that tragedy? What dramatic and retalitory actions he took in response to the bombing and great loss of young American blood?
You don’t remember his response? Well, it’s probably because there wasn’t one.
Only banter.
We regret the loss of these lives and the tragedy just demonstrates the complexity of the conflict and the difficulty is accessing risks in these volatile regions.
“For every complex problem there is always an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.” ~H. L. Mencken
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 26th, 2012
7:52 am
Meanwhile, Obama’s “kill-list” grows bigger.
Obama supporters should be ashamed.
It’s better to lose some marbles than to lose one’s SOUL.
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From a real civil liberty champion——-Greenwald———
“The Post’s Miller recognizes the watershed moment this represents: “The creation of the matrix and the institutionalization of kill/capture lists reflect a shift that is as psychological as it is strategic.” As he explains, extra-judicial assassination was once deemed so extremist that very extensive deliberations were required before Bill Clinton could target even Osama bin Laden for death by lobbing cruise missiles in East Africa. But:
Targeted killing is now so routine that the Obama administration has spent much of the past year codifying and streamlining the processes that sustain it.
To understand the Obama legacy, please re-read that sentence. As Murtaza Hussain put it when reacting to the Post story: “The US agonized over the targeted killing Bin Laden at Tarnak Farms in 1998; now it kills people it barely suspects of anything on a regular basis.”
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/24/obama-terrorism-kill-list
bob
October 26th, 2012
7:57 am
From the father of one of the dead Americans “Hillary Clinton’s comments to Woods raise even more questions about the White House’s official story on the Benghazi attack, which has already been extremely inconsistent. After apologizing for his loss, Woods said Clinton told him that the U.S. would “make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.” Yes, people, it was the video, move on because you are not owed the truth. And why should anyone be arrested for a video, isn’t free speech practiced anymore ? Hilliary had no problem with taxpayers being forced to pay for “piss Christ” but don’t hurt the feelings of muslims or we will put you in jail.
Thomas
October 26th, 2012
7:59 am
Thank heavens the Leftwing has some serious stones.
Thanks Granny for that little bit of delusional humor- so off the chart is funny. Oh what color is the sky in the extremist world.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
7:59 am
loyd
what’s in your oatmeal man?
bob
October 26th, 2012
8:00 am
Moon, yes, since marines died in the 80’s then we can be lied to, great logic from the left. I guess the right can say, dems got us into wars where we were not attacked, Korea and Vietnam, so we can start any war we want because dems did it first so quit whining about Iraq.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
8:01 am
Oh what color is the sky in the extremist world.
You tell us Mr. Talk Radio Puppet.
MikeB
October 26th, 2012
8:02 am
Because of this administrations, improper handling of the early information they had, lack of leadership, desire to call it anything but what it was, attempt at covering it up, and a complicit mainstream media……….
What we have right now is ea. Deptartment try to cover its butt vs. getting to the bottom of this….. Doubt there will ever be a unified version of the actual events from the State Dept, CIA, Obama Administration and the military…. They will all play the blame the other dept game until Americans get sick of hearing about it, and thats a shame………. Our people in service to their country deserve more than that…….
This all stems from the fact that the Obama Administration looks at everything through the prisim of politcal gain/loss………..
Recalculating Mr. President…..
Romney/Ryan 2012
bob
October 26th, 2012
8:03 am
Granny, have you ever admitted how wrong you were on this ? http://reason.org/blog/show/school-districts-in-wisconsin-saved
loyd george
October 26th, 2012
8:03 am
I remember afganastan, the “great game” we called it; us brits and the Czar’s russian hordes-awful place really, no place for any civilized man….Should have read more on Alexander the Great, he knew about it also, some things NEVER change…
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
8:03 am
Man, my snark projectionator needs recalibration…
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
8:04 am
Wow, the talk radio drones are out in force today with their alt’s.
How many do you think it REALLY is Granny? 2? Maybe 3 total?
Georgia
October 26th, 2012
8:05 am
The beef against W is not that he’s such a squirrel. No, it’s that he split the executive branch into two parts: cheney became defacto commander in chief and W handled the shopping. In the late summer of 2002, the CIA had finally located OBL. W ordered Rummy to attack Osama Bin Laden after the CIA tree’d him. Rummy flat refused to attack in the face of the enemy in a time of war. Cheney literally belayed the order and instead began to move forward on Iraq. W is a lilly-livered coward who caved into their demands. It’s the most shameful moment in our history. Nixon said that if the president breaks the law, then its legal because the president did it. W must have thought the same about treason. I think Nixon and W mixed up the Papacy with the Presidency.
I don’t want to see the country go through with a hanging, after a fair trial, of those three sellouts. So I just let it go. Benedict Arnold sold the plans to the fort. Cheney sold the fort. But I just let it go. I tell myself, this is the government I chose. I’ll take the good with the bad. When we slaughter Islamic populations, and declare total perpetual war on millions of people, I don’t ask questions. I just let it go.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:06 am
desire to call it anything but what it was
Just stop embarrassing yourself.
Wasn’t one very public smack-down by the President in front of 50 million viewers enough for you?
TaxPayer
October 26th, 2012
8:07 am
Republicans have stones. Kidney. Probably from feeding off those government milk cows their entire lives. Switch over to soy milk, cons.
MikeB
October 26th, 2012
8:08 am
Because of this administrations:
-Improper handling of the early information they had
-Lack of leadership
-Desire to call it anything but what it was
-Attempt at covering it up
-A complicit mainstream media……….
Hope this makes my 1st paragraph from above, easier to read.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:08 am
From a real civil liberty champion——-Greenwald
Heyward, I knew Glenn Greenwald. Glenn Greenwald was a friend of mine.
You, sir, are no Glenn Greenwald.
bob
October 26th, 2012
8:09 am
Jay is dragging out Condi because she is an authority ? Wow, she was bashed as a liar for years on this thread but she is telling the truth now ? Obama lied several times. We were told that a demonstration got out of control but their was no demonstration and the video proved that. So the whole thing started out with a lie then followed up with lies. But Obama killed Bin Laden, I heard they had a Burr/Hamilton type dual after Obama tracked him into Pakistan. Obama’s gun jammed but he had his handy bayonet to finish Osama off.
Fred ™
October 26th, 2012
8:10 am
Bob, spamming the lies just as fast as he can copy/paste them………..
TiredOfIt
October 26th, 2012
8:11 am
GW and Pat Tillman
bob
October 26th, 2012
8:11 am
Georgia, Clinton had the chance to nail Osama but you can blame Cheney for Clinton turning a blind eye, we wouldn’t want to place blame where it should be placed.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
8:11 am
Thomas
Sorry, Buckaroo…I don’t do delusion.
Big time waster.
Do you always think the sky appears different colors for different people? That IS delusional.
Mr. Silly Pants
Jm
October 26th, 2012
8:13 am
Benghazigaaaaaaate!!!!
Sorry. I just love to say that. It just sounds so funny.
Skip
October 26th, 2012
8:14 am
How many died after the attack? None, so how did calling it anything cause a death?
Goldie
October 26th, 2012
8:14 am
“fake outrages fabricated so far by the right-wing media, and yes, I understand that’s saying a lot.”
Yes, fake outrage is all the Cons have once again. Has the war on Christmas started up yet this year or do we have to wait until Nov. 7th for that to occur???
Jm
October 26th, 2012
8:15 am
Benghazi.
Bless you.
Occupy White House
October 26th, 2012
8:16 am
AdviCe to Fred the typo geek:
Lick more B’whatT!
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:16 am
When we slaughter Islamic populations, and declare total perpetual war on millions of people, I don’t ask questions. I just let it go.
Not to get too deeply into the existential questions, but–
Who doesn’t, ultimately?
Some of us suffer a few sleepless nights (I know I have), but you can’t function like that forever. You can either become a full time activist and devote your life to bringing people to justice, or you go back to your business.
I can’t remember who it was, who had survived the Holocaust, who said of the population: “10% are willing to do horrendous evil, 10% are willing to fight it, and 80% could go either way.” That could be off by a bit but the basic math applies.
Well, I’m off to slit my wrists now. Anyone care to join me?
TaxPayer
October 26th, 2012
8:16 am
9/11 happened on GW’s watch. GW failed US by letting bin Laden live. President Obama set things right by taking out the self-professed mastermind.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
8:17 am
bob
have we met?
fred
based on a nearly 8 year history at the AJC blogs….3 tops.
Georgia
October 26th, 2012
8:17 am
The only smoking gun is Hillary. With what we know now, there exists no reason for her to run interference before the Debate like she did. Unless the truth about the attack is so horrible, that we’ed all be up in chaos. Maybe there are realities that would make us riot too. If you travel outside the US, you begin to understand how censored our news is. We have never been leveled with. We still don’t even know what happened to Custer. I mean come on.
Jm
October 26th, 2012
8:18 am
Ben Ghazi
Wasn’t he a movie character played by Charleton Heston?
Or was he related to John Gotti?
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 26th, 2012
8:20 am
Goldie
I never start my holiday shopping until the War on Christmas Starts.
It’s right after the Tussle over Thanksgiving and the Hubbub over Halloween.
I just love the right wing holiday calender!
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:20 am
We were told that a demonstration got out of control but their [sic] was no demonstration and the video proved that.
Hmm. Methinks this is akin to how “a video” somehow proved that John Lewis was not called a “n!gg3r” by Tea Partiers as he walked with Nancy Pelosi to vote on the PPACA, yes?
Jm
October 26th, 2012
8:20 am
Benghazigate.
A high end Libyan subdivision?
Or the town entrance?
Lord Help Us
October 26th, 2012
8:22 am
‘right wing losing its last two marbles…’
I disagree. Given certain laboratory preparation, one could possibly create a synaptic charge across two marbles…that is certainly not possible within the cerebral confines of a right wing cranial cavity…
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:22 am
jm, I wish it were pronounced “BenGAYzee,” because it rhymes with “crazy.”
(although there’d be homophobic elements to deal with then, so I guess it’d be kind of a trade-off.)
alex
October 26th, 2012
8:22 am
To those of you who have lost respect for Mcain, you should be appalled at your image,you may disagree with him,you may find him a foolish man at times;but if you have read anything about his vietnam time or EVER met the man, you MUST respect him, warts and all. I have met the man I have read his books, I have talked to people who knew him at the Hanoi Hilton-none of you can even imagine what he went through much less survive it, pathetic…
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:25 am
The only smoking gun is Hillary.
I find it’s sensible to keep one’s sexual fantasies to oneself.
TaxPayer
October 26th, 2012
8:25 am
I disagree. Given certain laboratory preparation, one could possibly create a synaptic charge across two marbles…that is certainly not possible within the cerebral confines of a right wing cranial cavity…
I believe you left little room for misinterpretation with that post.
stands for decibels
October 26th, 2012
8:25 am
oh dearies. Powell endorsement SHEETZ…
Garth
October 26th, 2012
8:25 am
Jay, why can’t you be honest and objective for a refreshing change. Four Americans won’t be voting in this presidential election. They were murdered at the hands of terrorists. They would be alive today if it were not for the incomptence and negligence of the Obama administration. The Utube
mantra that Obama spouted for an entire week, even in a speech to the United Nations, had
nothing to do with the planned murders. It has simply been used as cover for Obama’s incomptence.
Answer man.
October 26th, 2012
8:26 am
The right wing nut cases who claim to be angry about this are not angry at all. They’re just using it to try to justify their hatred for President Obama. They don’t know what happened in Libya and I’d suggest that they don’t really even care. They have a political agenda steeped in hatred. Anything they say can and should be disregarded. You’ve been disregarded, USMC.
alex
October 26th, 2012
8:27 am
at “decibels”, after your last blog, I’ll sharpen the Knife…I did like the existential reference though, much too refined for this blog though-keep going with the self mutilation;people here do it with words all the time (keep a “blade” ready for Jay)
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 26th, 2012
8:28 am
THOMAS
I read Glenn Greenwald and WaPo first thing…great read regarding the “disposition matrix”…If BO would have campaigned on this in 2008, his lefties likely would have crucified him…our reputation in that neck of the woods is already lower that at in 2009…Wonder if we are getting real info on “collateral” damage?
WaPo/ABC now has Romney at 50%…sphincters are a tightening..the great sucking sound..
Williebkind
October 26th, 2012
8:28 am
“Indications that the anti-Muslim video and the protests in Egypt played some role in what happened.”
Now this line I have heard before but in a different scenario, oh yea, I remember this is another way for the liberals to use a consensus among themselves as scientific fact. There are four dead and another one in prison for the incompetence of this administration. These five have had their constitutional rights snatched away ie. life and liberty by the vile lies and intentional cover ups of this severly flawed administration.
[r]epublican - If you have to ask, your part of the problem...
October 26th, 2012
8:30 am
“Thanks, USMC, for proving my point so d*** eloquently.”
How professional of you Jay. Someone from your background shouldn’t have to use such language. If you really believe in what you believe in, then maybe it’s time you take a deep look at yourself.
Prove me wrong Jay, I dare you.
Williebkind
October 26th, 2012
8:33 am
“They don’t know what happened in Libya and I’d suggest that they don’t really even care. They have a political agenda steeped in hatred. ”
Do you know what happened in Libya? Most do care but not for the reasons you do–protecting Obama. There is no political agenda like the progressive liberal/communist objectives. Are you one of those who think this is a democratic government and not a representative government?
Goldie
October 26th, 2012
8:35 am
Romney/Ryan — “Elect us because we supported the Bush’s policies wholeheartedly that brought America to its economic disaster in 2007, and we can continue those policies once again– yeaaaaa! ”
Williebkind
October 26th, 2012
8:35 am
General Powell another affirmative action recipient.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 26th, 2012
8:35 am
TAXPAYER,
I can hear the desperation in you post re 911…I’m certainly not in favor of Bush but it is curious all fringe lefties are not hammering some ridiculous comparison of 9.11.01 to 9.11.12..please help me understand why Bush remains relevant and please help me understand how this Benghazi incident (anyone comparing this to Watergate is equally idiotic) compares and contrasts to our shores being attacked…neither case did DC have adequate intelligence to see either coming…just be good if BO would admit he made a communication mistake and leave it at that…if he can..
Adam
October 26th, 2012
8:36 am
Race baiting SHEETZ
Paul
October 26th, 2012
8:36 am
Tina Trent
” The fact that Obama and his crew even approach this event with such a mindset is appalling.”
His ‘crew’?!!?
You think Obama’s the captain of a Navy ship?
Or did you mean something else?
Rick Fletcher
October 26th, 2012
8:36 am
I’m so glad you blind lefties live here…Even if you vote often…
Romney wins Georgia
Williebkind
October 26th, 2012
8:37 am
Goldie
October 26th, 2012
8:35 am
Goldie it is 8:30am and time for your medication.
JKL2
October 26th, 2012
8:37 am
tiredofit- Nothing surprises me from the pro-rape party
Need some more kool-aid? Yum, yum!
Vote obama: Power to the sheeple!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 26th, 2012
8:38 am
GARTH,
Jay and Kyle are paid to provide lunatic left and right fringe perspective…very rarely and only very sutlely will either look askance at repective party’s idiocy….there is certainly enough to go around..
alex
October 26th, 2012
8:38 am
@answer man: bad day??, Here’s a knife, you’re welcome….Sheeesh, clean up afterwards, thanks…
Georgia
October 26th, 2012
8:40 am
So what was Hillary doing when she fell on her sword? What would make her step forward like that? You can figure it out. What is so sensitive? How about a middle east where the sectarian and ethnic intersects are suddenly seizing power . In the wash after the video, the cooler heads in that rioting mob may have hired one of many hit-cells. The mob was multi-ethnic and multi-sectarian. The hit cell was one of many multi-ethnic, multisectarian mercenaries available anywhere anytime. And they’re all using the repeater rifles our crooked bankers sold them. The ancient liasons between the tribes in the middle east respect no borders. We don’t know who to arm in the civil wars because the alliances and rivalries are so old and complicated, with double-crossing Kurds mixed in here and there, that the warring factions don’t even know who to shoot at. Imagine an exit strategy for the pro-Persian, anti Kurd, pro Iraqi Shia faction in Libya. I mean. Who do ya trust?
This is the Cheney and the Saudi Royal Family that Ike warned us about. Even if we didn’t need their oil, we’d be drawn in. I wonder how much time we really have left.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 26th, 2012
8:41 am
JKL2
Fantastic moniker “sheeple”…mindless followers of 100% of repective party dogma…a comparision to religiosity suggests both are quite evangelical in their tactics…you do gotta admit that the idea that God intended rape is akin to the Taliban prohibiting women from education..
alex
October 26th, 2012
8:42 am
At Stevie Ray, STOP IT, if you speak rationally, you have no purpose for this blog or limbaugh or mathews,just STOP IT…….
Goldie
October 26th, 2012
8:43 am
“Romney wins Georgia”
yawn — and who really cares about that? oh yeah, Grumpy Old People in GA.
James
October 26th, 2012
8:43 am
Jay, you are a typical liberal who “can’t see the nose in front of his face”. You are beyond hope!!!
Skip
October 26th, 2012
8:48 am
“Romney wins Georgia”Not much of a prize now is it.
Skip
October 26th, 2012
8:49 am
“Romney wins Georgia” and trades it for a state to be named later.
alex
October 26th, 2012
8:51 am
@ georgia, you had me until you thru in Cheney and the Royal Family…But your point is made, to a degree, only that there are NO lasting village liasons….As for repeating rifles, I guess we have to bring in lawrence and the brits, after all they brought weapons too, perhaps not, we’lll stick with bankers and Cheney-they are easier and more contemporary targets..
dubs
October 26th, 2012
9:05 am
fake scandal? you are a piece of crap. You care more about your pathetic political party than you do about your country. Shame on you.
Answer man.
October 26th, 2012
9:42 am
Garth is a perfect example of the illogical hatred being spouted by those who would pretend to be objective and reasonable. There’s very little chance that Garth has any inside information, yet he, she, it, states with absolute confidence that the situation in Libya is a direct result ofthe incompetence of the President. No one is fooled by this garbage. I suspect the source of all the hatred is pretty simple and it’s very ugly. No need for me to spell it out. You know what it is.
TiredOfIt
October 26th, 2012
10:32 am
I am curious, which Romney are you guys voting for?
littleleers
October 26th, 2012
11:01 am
["The deaths in Libya are tragic. The U.S. averages 10 drownings per day. Maybe the republicans will attack water next."] ……………..Is this how you and yours think? Then a serial killer is no different than a police officer. A swimming pool is no different than a terrorist with RPG’s, and other weapons. I mean both cause “death” and who “should worry over that”. And a car accident that results in a death (where the driver had no culpability) is the same as someone “mowing their wife or daughter down with their own car”. I get it….it is moral relativism and to you and those who think like you all deaths are without sin, without guilt and without accountability. Therefore, based on your thinking, prisons should be done away with…..after all those people were only guilty of causing deaths and didn’t “mean it”.
lovelyliz
October 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Did the right wing have any marbles to begin with?
Back in the USSA
October 26th, 2012
11:31 am
TiredOfIt
October 26th, 2012
10:32 am
“I am curious, which Romney are you guys voting for?”
The one…the one that ain’t Obama. We want to be clear about that. You know what you gettin’ with Obomber…at least wit’ Mittens there is still hope and there will be change. Forward!
Wasting time here no doubt
October 26th, 2012
3:29 pm
The so-called CIC abandoned his post, cowardly pissant, and good men died, no matter how you slice it. Shame on him forever; he is finished, either way, as are those who support and cover up for him. Why don’t you smirking liberals try your luck on a legitimate news outlet, with a columnist who has a shred of integrity left? Make that a “sincere” shred of integrity.
Sven Ottke
October 27th, 2012
8:19 am
Fake conspiracy and still blaming the video. You are a joke. Now add sitting on their fanny for 7 hours while watching it live and refusing to send in support. I’m sorry, watching it live is a mistake. Obama went to bed and then jumped on a plane to Vegas, baby!
I have officially told all employees that voted for Obama will be replaced!
October 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
It is with great pleasure to let employees go if I find out they voted for Obama. As a private company, I am a “at will” employer. Rupublicans run businesses, democrats are employees.