The no-holds-barred effort to defeat Obama
Armstrong Cable, the nation’s 15th largest cable company, operates in six states, including Ohio and Pennsylvania. Earlier this month, for the first time in company history, it decided to offer all of its subscribers free access to a recently released movie. In the past, it has always charged subscribers to see such movies.
The film in question? “Obama’s America: 2016.”
“There is no agenda here,” Dave Wittmann, Armstrong’s vice-president of marketing, told the Pittsburgh CityPaper.
Maybe not. However, it’s interesting to note that last month, Jay Sedwick, Armstrong’s chairman, maxed out his donations to Mitt Romney’s campaign at $5,000, and gave another $25,000 to the Republican National Committee. The company also is listed as providing American Crossroads — the Karl Rove SuperPAC — $1.32 million in in-kind cable access last month.
The movie itself is such an obvious hackjob, designed largely to inflame those already nurturing resentment of Obama’s success, that I’m dubious it will have much impact. But it’s interesting as yet another example of the lengths that some in the 1 percent are willing to go in this campaign.
There are multiple examples of companies pressuring their employees to vote for Romney, warning them they might lose their jobs if Obama is re-elected. Earlier I highlighted the example of David Siegel, owner of Westgate Resorts, who sent such a letter to his workforce. Atlanta-based Georgia Pacific, owned by the Koch brothers, sent a similar letter to its 45,000 employees, warning that “many of our more than 50,000 U.S. employees and contractors may suffer the consequences” if the wrong man is elected president. Just to make clear who that wrong man might be, the packet included columns written by the Koch brothers endorsing Romney and condemning Obama.
None of this is illegal, at least not in the wake of the Citizens United ruling by the Supreme Court. But it does provide interesting insight — especially in light of Mitt Romney’s infamous little speech about the despised 47 percent — into the largely unexplored undercurrents of this campaign.
– Jay Bookman
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Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
10:54 am
Adam
“Um, no. See, a cover-up means he was deliberately misleading about whether or not an attack happened”
Rhetorical Questions:
Did an attack on our consulate in Benghazi happen?
Did four amerircan dies in the above attack?
Did High ranking members of the Presidents Administration say the attacks were the result of a demonstration that got our of hand?
Did the President himself blame the so called demonstration on a anti muslim film for two weeks including a speech at the UN?
Did the State Department receive a live telephone call describing the attack as it occured?
Did the white house receive electronic mail from the Libyan Embassy
Adam
October 25th, 2012
10:55 am
stevie ray: Regarding transparency…how is this not another broken promise of BO’s?
We know what the President knows (high level, minus the names and positions of CIA people and other sensitive national security info, of course) when it comes to what happened in Benghazi. They even released emails. How is not a promise KEPT?
Adam
October 25th, 2012
10:55 am
Mighty Righty: Did an attack on our consulate in Benghazi happen?
Did four amerircan dies in the above attack?
Did High ranking members of the Presidents Administration say the attacks were the result of a demonstration that got our of hand?
Did the President himself blame the so called demonstration on a anti muslim film for two weeks including a speech at the UN?
Did the State Department receive a live telephone call describing the attack as it occured?
Did the white house receive electronic mail from the Libyan Embassy
Rhetorical question:
Do you know the answers to all of those because Obama hid the information from us?
straitroad
October 25th, 2012
10:56 am
Not good for any of us….
(Reuters) – Consumers will have to dig deeper into their pockets next year to pay for costlier healthcare, more expensive grocery bills and higher taxes, an extra drag on the country’s already slow-moving economy.
Adam
October 25th, 2012
10:56 am
stevie ray: Also, no one can successfully explain why the Pres doesn’t simply have a press conference and simply go thru the timeline and address the concerns out there?
I can explain that. Because it is election time.
Don’t hate the player. hate the game.
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
10:57 am
Depends on what you read. Here it ranks sixth behind Moores 3 and Al Gores on climate change. Regardless its had a lot of box office.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/anti-obama-film-becomes-top-10-movie-in-america-1-conservative-political-documentary-of-all-time/
stevie ray...clowns and jokers
October 25th, 2012
10:57 am
ITSALLBUSHESFAULT
You are 100% correct about the GOP morphing into something is has never been.. Despite any loss of support, seems that they will come out in record numbers to vote BO out of office…and that will be the same if Romney gets to office as well..the DEMs in congress will do all they can to obstruct….
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
10:57 am
“Big news at the box office: The film pegged as the anti-Obama documentary has outsold all other movies opening this weekend, according to early reports. “2016: Obama’s America” raked in $2.2 million on Friday, outperforming other openers “Premium Rush” and the indie comedy “Hit and Run.” The earnings also make it the top-grossing documentary of the year.”
Wow those liberals/communists can lie or deflect anything at anytime. America is waking up.
Adam
October 25th, 2012
10:57 am
stevie ray: Look up the words moonbat and wingnut:-)
I already know what those mean. Did you have a reason for that?
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
10:57 am
stevie ray: I dunno. If I had an afternoon to waste I might try to watch Fahrenheit and 2016 back to back. I watched a little bit of “Game Changer” as I surfed into it on HBO once…………
Adam
October 25th, 2012
10:58 am
Williebkind: Leadership is getting the willing obedience from the followers.
Actually, that is not what leadership is. But if I accept your definition and your continued insistence that Obama supporters blindly follow him, I think you answer you own question as to whether or not Obama is a leader.
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
10:59 am
“Atlanta-based Georgia Pacific, owned by the Koch brothers, sent a similar letter to its 45,000 employees, warning that “many of our more than 50,000 U.S. employees and contractors may suffer the consequences” if the wrong man is elected president. . . the packet included columns written by the Koch brothers endorsing Romney and condemning Obama.”
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The Koch Brothers have also financially supported ALEC, which desires to turn our public schools into quasi-private schools run by corporate management companies for profit. The tactics that the Koch Brothers, et al., have used to attempt to control the minds and votes of their workers will later be used to control the minds and votes of the students and teachers functioning wthin their privately managed schools for profit, imo.
Two different visions for America. Romney and the Koch Brothers view workers, students, teachers, as well as women, and minorities as inferior to the moguls of industry because they see these moguls as all important to the success of this nation through private enterprise in which management’s voice is more important than workers’ voices. This is a hierarchial vision of humanity. If you vote for Romney, one day you, too, may find yourself at the bottom of their hierarchial vision of others, which will end up seeing only the top 1% of this world as worthy.
Jefferson, with his egalitarian vision for America’s evolving ideal, will weep for America if his dream for our democratic republic – and his dream for public education – are forfeited by an unaware electorate, and if unaware citizens cede their voices and their votes to the wealthy/ powerful elite who have stealthily tried to control this nation for their selfish, monetary purposes – through unsavory means – for decades.
Don’t be fooled and don’t be used. Vote for President Obama’s re-election. He will continue Jefferson’s egalitarian vision for America.
stevie ray...clowns and jokers
October 25th, 2012
11:00 am
ADAM,
I can’t tell you how much I appreciate an honest answer…I went off on the ad nauseum yesterday and all I got was name called (stupid wife beater etcetera) and deflected…even Jay’s comment in response was uncharateristically shallow and dismissive and deflective…
As much as things are alledged to change…they clearly remain the same..
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:01 am
Obama condems Mourdock’s remarks on rape babies being God’s intention: http://www.nbc.com/assets/video/widget/widget.html?vid=1421850
“[T]his underscores, though, this is exactly why you don’t want a bunch of politicians — mostly male — making decisions about women’s health care decisions. Women are capable of making these decisions in consultation with their partners, with their doctors. And, you know, for politicians to want to intrude in this stuff, often times without any information, is a huge problem. And this is obviously a part of what’s at stake in this election. You’ve got a Supreme Court that, typically a president is going to have probably another couple of appointments during the course of his term. And, you know, Roe vs. Wade is probably hanging in the balance. You’ve got issues like Planned Parenthood where, you know, that organization provides millions of women cervical cancer screenings, mammograms, all kinds of basic healthcare.
“And so I think it’s really important for us to — to understand that women are capable of making these decisions and that these are not just women’s issues. These are family issues.”
Romney says he simply “disagrees” but still supports Akin. McCain is reconsidering his own support for Mourdock.
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
stevie ray: I also happen to think it’s unlikely Obama will hold a press conference after the election, unless the media starts to force the issue. In one sense, by the time mid November rolls around, the media thinks it’s old news.
Georgia
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
Isn’t it ironic that Birthers are anti-labor? Trump and Romney: Birthers make strange bedfellows. Did Trump use the Lamaze method to get his hair to do that? It takes weeks of mouth-breathing classes to be a proper birther. Mouth-breathe! Mouth-Breathe!!!!
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
IMDB, is pretty much considered a top source for anything movie or TV related. It is an industry respected database. The Blaze is a right wing nut job “publication” with a political agenda.
I’ll stick to the rankings by source that is an industry standard which receives 150 million hits a day over a right wing rag with an agenda and a reputation for twisting facts to meet that agenda.
Citizen of the World
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
We need a movie about Romney’s mysterious tax returns and why he won’t show them to us.
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:04 am
About this Benghazi event–All I heard from liberals/communists is that “Bush lied” Bush lied” Bush lied” and an explaination came about the intelligence received at the time. Did the progressive liberals/communists accept this…no! What was their response? “Bush lied” Bush lied” Bush lied”!
Well guess what? Obama lied and deliberately tried to deceive the people with the help of the media except for a few who tried to get the truth out.
stevie ray...clowns and jokers
October 25th, 2012
11:04 am
MARYELIZABETH
Morning…my concern as you know is that BO is making the same tired and broken promises as in 2008…suggesting on more that one occasion that the economy took a back seat to HC crap legislation, immigration reform, tax overhaul, transparency etcetera….I can’t vote for either…poor track record/non transparent incumbent versus a guy resembling a Ken doll who is not sure what he can really commit to…
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:05 am
Citizen of the World
October 25th, 2012
11:03 am
Why? Do you need money?
stevie ray...clowns and jokers
October 25th, 2012
11:06 am
ADAM
Agreed…I guess we may have to go to the obama library 10 years or so down the road after freedom of info act is triggered..
It really is a three ring circus…Carney, Hillary, and Obama (per Wesley Clark and Axelrod)…
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:06 am
“The Blaze is a right wing nut job “publication” with a political agenda.”
This is liberal/communist comprehension of the drive by medias.
UNCLE SAMANTHA
October 25th, 2012
11:07 am
52% UNITE
make the 47% & the 1% PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:08 am
Williebkind: About this Benghazi event–All I heard from liberals/communists is that “Bush lied” Bush lied” Bush lied” and an explaination came about the intelligence received at the time.
Your admission that your own response as well as the response of some conservatives over the Benghazi situation is a butthurt reaction to some liberals in response to 9/11 is noted.
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:09 am
stevie ray: Agreed…I guess we may have to go to the obama library 10 years or so down the road after freedom of info act is triggered..
Barring discovery of Obama letting it happen on purpose, or condoning it, I don’t see what new things we will learn.
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:11 am
Obama lied and deliberately tried to deceive the people with the help of the media except for a few who tried to get the truth out.
That is as much BS as saying Bush orchestrated or wanted 9/11 to happen.
Citizen of the World
October 25th, 2012
11:11 am
Romney epitomizes “the man” — the one who wants to put you down and keep you down. Usually that person is just your boss or the CEO of a company like (ahem) Bain Capital.
The thought that “the man” could be the president scares me and should scare anyone who would like a government that actually serves and protects all the people, not just those at the top (like those who can afford to show movies for free on their cable network).
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:11 am
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
10:59 am
Mary Elizabeth lied!
Mary Elizabeth lied!
Mary Elizabeth lied!
Mary Elizabeth lied!
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
11:14 am
Williebkind@11:06
Spot on. If it’s Media Matters, Daily Kos, the Huffington Post or whatever other far-left rag the libs hang on to their every word as fact.
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
11:15 am
Adam:
Did the attack on our consulate in Behghazi happen?
Were four americans including our ambassador die as a reslut of the attack on our consulate in Benghazi?
Was a member of our state department on the telephhone with the Benghazi consulate duirng the attack describing said attack?
Did the attackers use Mortorts, RPG’s, anf fully automatic weapons?
Did the white ouse receive electronic mail describing the attack?
Did Ambassador Stevens ask for additional security prior to the attack?
Was said security provided by our state department?
Prior to this attack had there been other attacks on our facilities?
Did we manage to dispatch a Predator Drone to watch the attack in progress?
Did high ranking members of the administration including our ambassador to the UN within days of the attack claim it was a demonstration caused by a anti muslim film that got out of control?
Did President Obama for more than two weeks use the same reason as his people did even going before the UN and said in a speech it was caused by a film.
Did President Obama and Hillary Clinton make a video which was distributed to the Muslim World blaming the film?
Did the Presidents own press spoksmen Robert Gibbs repeatedly claim the demonstration was caused by the film?
While the attack was taking place were military units repositioned to respond to the attack in Benghazi?
Isn’t it strange that while the attack was under way, we found a drone to monitor the situation, had a person in State on the telephone with the victims, moved military units, hed E mails describing what was really going on while the administration claimed ignorance and fabricated exscuses. In addition with units in place, less than an hour away, our presidentchose not to use those units to protect our people! While our people died, where was the president?
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
11:15 am
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:06 am
“The Blaze is a right wing nut job “publication” with a political agenda.”
This is liberal/communist comprehension of the drive by medias.
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nope, THIS is a left wing Opinion blog you silly man. It is under the “Opinion’ header. Jay doesn’t pretend to be doing straight news stories here. The Blaze DOES pretend to be a news site. It is however as extremist as the Huffington post. From Wiki:
TheBlaze is a news and opinion website and television network owned by American media personality and former CNN Headline News and Fox News host Glenn Beck’s Mercury Radio Arts. The website was launched three days after Beck’s widely publicized Restoring Honor rally at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D. C. Beck has promoted The Blaze as an alternative to “mainstream media outlets,” which Beck says are “distorting facts to fit rigid agendas.” Beck was quoted saying that The Blaze will feature “breaking news, original reporting, insightful opinions and engaging videos about the stories that matter most” and that “we will examine our culture, deal with matters of faith and family, and we won’t be afraid of a history lesson.”[4] The site is reportedly modeled after The Huffington Post, and has been compared to that site by Matt DeLong of the Washington Post and Steve Krakauer of Mediaite.
alex
October 25th, 2012
11:16 am
theif, huckster… BOOM, BOOM, out go the lights…
Adam
October 25th, 2012
11:16 am
Sheetz
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:17 am
“The thought that “the man” could be the president scares YOU and should scare anyone who would likes government that actually serves and protects itself from all the people,”
There fixed your errors.
Brosephus™
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
Leadership is getting the willing obedience from the followers. Obama has failed miserably!
America has never marched lockstep behind our leaders except for times of great tragedy. We value individual freedoms too much.
DownInAlbany
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
ITS ALL BUSH’S FAULT
October 25th, 2012
10:35 am
Down in Albany? There are about a half dozen folks living in Albany. Please get a life.
But, why? I like my life just fine!
Citizen of the World
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
Williebkind, I do not need the money. Aren’t you the one who’s always asking “are you better off than you were four years ago?” to which my answer continues to be “yes.”
There are legitimate reasons for wanting to see Romney’s tax returns as I’m sure his approach to future tax policy could be influenced by his past behavior in how he approaches his tax liability. It’s customary for presidential contenders to show tax returns going back a dozen years or so, yet Romney has refused to show his for all but the last two years. Considering that’s a time frame during which he knew he better clean up his act, I don’t think they really tell us what we need to know.
So this is a big issue and one which he continues to evade — tax evasion, if you will.
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
11:18 am
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
11:14 am
Williebkind@11:06
Spot on. If it’s Media Matters, Daily Kos, the Huffington Post or whatever other far-left rag the libs hang on to their every word as fact.
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Who gives a damn about any of those? They ARE left wing sites and as such biased in their slant. Did I post number on that movie from ANY of those sites? NO I posted from the INDUSRTY STANDARD, a NON POLITICAL DATA BASE.
You can NEVER admit you are wrong, not even when it is clearly the case. What a sad way to go through life. No wonder you can’t tell the truth, you are so used to covering up when you are wrong that lying has become second nature to you. Just pathetic.
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:22 am
Fred thinks it is a political agend if you want to maintain traditions and beliefs. Of course its political to him because he has no absolute truths–just opinion and theory.
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
11:24 am
Talk about documentaries this upcoming shameless film overstating Obama’s role in OBL’s take down is pure political propaganda. This particularly after the Obama administrations lies and cover up of the Benghazi tragedy. A president unfit for command.
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/10/25/harvey-weinstein-editing-releasing-seal-team-six-documentary-to-help-presidents-1963241037/
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
11:25 am
Williebkind: “Well, he will, after the election, give a soothing consoling speech to all the progressive/communists groups that supported him in his failed attempt to take over the country”
Oh I see, he attempted but failed to “take over” the country. He wanted to take it over so badly that he propped up the banks, hired Timmy Geithner and Larry Summers to build one of the most pro-capitalist, big-bank friendly economics teams ever seen, pulling capitalism back from the brink of a 1920s style collapse and launching it into stratospheric levels of recovery and growth, as middle class people, workers, and homeowners were left dangling. Yeah THAT community organizer take-over artist.
C’mon rubes, Think!!! It’s painful at first, but it’s better to have insight than wallowing in ignorance.
Georgia
October 25th, 2012
11:26 am
The Benghazi Timeline. The Facebook entry of the terrorist responsible: “I’m definitely going to download the new Taylor Swift release, but I’m liking Miranda Lambert more and more. Anyone want my Jonas Brothers videos? I’m sick of them. Oh, yeah, I attacked the US compound in Benghazi and killed the Ambassador.”
Hillary missed the confession, somehow. She doesn’t take Facebook at face value somehow. She’s already fallen on her sword, so I don’t know what we can do to her. Resign?
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
11:27 am
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:22 am
Fred thinks it is a political agend if you want to maintain traditions and beliefs. Of course its political to him because he has no absolute truths–just opinion and theory.
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Nope Mr. Reasding Comprehension Challenged. What I am talking about is the ranking of the movie Obama’s America 2016. You would know that if you could read and actually READ what I have been posting about.
That other crap in your post i just quoted? That comes right out of your ass, not anything that I have posted here. Maybe you ought to jam it right back up that place you got it from and THINK before you type next time.
Mark
October 25th, 2012
11:29 am
Drama, drama… Obama has 2+:1 odds on the Electoral College win and that’s all that counts.
It’s in the bag. Move on, nothing left but the shouting.
Forward = OBAMA/BIDEN 2
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
11:29 am
It would be fall-down-on-the-ground, split-my-sides hilarious, to listen to these rubes bend their logical schemes and twist facts every which way to Sunday to support their paranoiac fears and delusions if it weren’t so devastating grotesque.
The rubes really think the most friendly American administration capital has ever had is communist. It’s truly black comedy for the gods.
Not Going Back
October 25th, 2012
11:30 am
No self-respecting sane woman will vote for Romney/Ryan or any Republican this election cycle.
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
11:31 am
“You can NEVER admit you are wrong, not even when it is clearly the case. What a sad way to go through life. No wonder you can’t tell the truth, you are so used to covering up when you are wrong that lying has become second nature to you. Just pathetic.”
When you’re inability to make a reasonable point fails as it appears to do so frequently your frail little response is to call someone a liar. Now fred, that is pathetic.
Williebkind
October 25th, 2012
11:31 am
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
11:25 am
Nice speech, you liberals/communists are so good at it but what about the fact checks? Do we get into how Obama voted present in congress when dealing out mortgages to anyone, how he took over the health care of the US, and so on and on and on and on. Dont worry his speech will give you peace of mind.
Fred ™
October 25th, 2012
11:34 am
When you’re inability to make a reasonable point fails as it appears to do so frequently your frail little response is to call someone a liar. Now fred, that is pathetic.
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Really? I link you to the most respected movie data base in the world and you still fail to acknowledge the truth of that and I’m wrong?
Wow. Back away from the Oxy…………
Regnad Kcin
October 25th, 2012
11:36 am
Obama’s up 60 – 40 on InTrade.
Obama’s up 70 – 30 on FiveThirtyEight.
Republicans get so excited about a fracional popular-vote lead, but ignore the electoral college. Why?
Middle Class losing ground every day
October 25th, 2012
11:37 am
LOLOLOL! Wake up brainless zombies! Obama’s plans ARE working! He is trying to bankrupt America. He hates everything America stands for. If you support him, why not just move to Cuba? They are where we will be after 4 more years of Obama. With his plans, there will be NO middle class. He’s doing a great job, if you think living in a third world country is a good thing!
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
11:39 am
Mary Elizabeth
You have old Tom all wrong. His own words, “A government of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE, and for the PEOPLE.” You and OBama want a government of the government, by the government and for the government so long as you receive what you think is owed to you. A government that ignores inconvenient laws, and hides its documents from the peoples elected representatives, the very people the people chose to over see that government is a dangerous government verging on tyranny and cannot be reelected by freedom loving people. The examples of the Obama administration’s abuse of power are numerous and well known. Only a foolish people would want to extend the power of the current administration. The few trinkets Obama may tempt you with are not worth the enslavement that follows.
They BOTH suck
October 25th, 2012
11:39 am
Recon
If you are posting links from the “blaze” it might be best not to cry about those who post from Media matter and Huffington
just saying
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
11:42 am
Mary Elizabeth: “Vote for President Obama’s re-election. He will continue Jefferson’s egalitarian vision for America.”
Uh, not sure about that, Mary Elizabeth. Obama is way too much of a neoliberal ideologue to truly work in the service of any truly “egalitarian” goal.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
11:43 am
Middle Class losing ground every day
Better get off that computer and get into the lunch room before the bell rings. Time’s already ticking on your lunch period.
Bill Orvis White
October 25th, 2012
11:45 am
Best film ever produced. No argument here. Amen, Bill
Butch
October 25th, 2012
11:49 am
“Obama’s up 60 – 40 on InTrade.
Obama’s up 70 – 30 on FiveThirtyEight.
Republicans get so excited about a fracional popular-vote lead, but ignore the electoral college. Why?”
Real Clear Politics
Romney 206, Obama 201
With no-toss ups, Obama 281. Romney 257
NC, Florida, Virginia, Colorado trending into the R column
Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Iowa, NH all in play
That’s why.
Recon 0311 2533
October 25th, 2012
11:51 am
fred, what follows is my original post and I’ll call your attention to my reference that the subject documentary was “reportedly” the third highest grossing documentary but that wasn’t the main point of my post unless you have a severe reading comprehension problem. You probably didn’t see this documentary so debating with me on my main point wasn’t doable. Instead you cherry picked my ranking reference that once again I referred to as being reported, not absolute fact. Do you have social interaction problems that cause you to come on a blog daily looking for immature opportunities for picking fights?
Obama 2016 is reportedly the second highest grossing documentary ranked behind one produced and directed by Michael Moore. It was well researched and presented creditable facts about Obama’s upbringing and associations including his fathers views regarding the United States and the Western world. D’Souza left it up to the viewer to formulate their own conclusions. It’s hard to say what effect if any this documentary may have had on the electorate at large but in my own opinion anyone with an open mind who watched it could only come away wondering how Obama could not have been greatly influenced by those known associations and in particular his father along with others during his formative years.
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
11:54 am
Stevie Ray, 11:04 am
Good morning to you, also, Stevie Ray. Well, I guess we just see President Obama through different eyes. I see Obamacare as a monumental accomplishment for the betterment of America. A universal healthcare plan had been attempted for Americans for a half century but no president before Obama was able to get it done. Had he not accomplished making the ACA into law when he did, it would not have happened for many years, if not for decades, because of the change in the numbers in Congress after 2010.
I urge you to reread what I stated in my 10:59 am post today. I am very concerned about what will happen to our democratic republic if Gov. Romney is elected as President. He is wearing a “soft-edged” facade right now, imo, but he is a man who will do the bidding of those powerful moguls who will have put him into office, and that vision is radical, in my opinion, not only in terms of women’s rights, but for education, and for the betterment of average middle/class Americans. Just a minute ago, I saw Romney on television speaking extremely fervently in Cincinnati, Ohio, about changing our schools to those of “choice” with is a code word for dismantling public education to private enterprise school markets for profit. Frightening in the context of what I wrote at 10:59 am, above.
I wish very much that I could change your mind to vote for President Obama – and also change the minds of all who read this blog who have decided to vote for Gov. Romney – because I truly fear for what America will become under the leadership of present day Republicans. with their fervent, regressive, and out-of-balance ideology, as I see it.
I probably won’t respond again today, Stevie Ray, as I will be going out. Best to you.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
12:09 pm
Mighty Righty: “he examples of the Obama administration’s abuse of power are numerous and well known. ”
Maybe. But there is not a single one of those abuses that is not likely to get WORSE under a Romney administration.
“Only a foolish people would want to extend the power of the current administration. ”
No. Only a foolish people is tricked by the sham of a two-party system that purports to hold both parties to account for their adherence to the rule of law and their willingness to serve the will of the people.
Ever occur to you that maybe the problem is not one or the other PARTY per se? That maybe the disease is in the system itself?
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
12:14 pm
Tom Jefferson wisdom:
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.
Thomas Jefferson
All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
Thomas Jefferson
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
12:17 pm
Mighty Righty, please read the full words that Jefferson penned in the Declaration of Independence regarding our “government.” In my opinion – and I mean this as no personal insult to you but as a suggestion to you so that you might more fully understand – I belive that you have been listening to too much propaganda on rightwing media which constantly speaks against our “government,” even ironically as the wealthy elite, who finance these media outlets for their own mercenary and ideological purposes, also use also our “government” – through stealthy means – to serve their self-interested mercenary ends by controlling the minds and the votes of unaware citizens whom they have manipulated through demagoguery.
See Jefferson’s words below regarding the value of “government”:
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. – That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.’ “
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For more on Jefferson’s thinking, see this link: http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/on-thomas-jefferson-and-historical-evolution/
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stands for decibels
October 25th, 2012
12:19 pm
“Big news at the box office: The film pegged as the anti-Obama documentary has outsold all other movies opening this weekend, according to early reports. “2016: Obama’s America” raked in $2.2 million on Friday, outperforming other openers “Premium Rush” and the indie comedy “Hit and Run.” The earnings also make it the top-grossing documentary of the year.”
Top grossing docu?
of the year?
[Insert "tallest dwarf" or "most popular cable news" joke here.]
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
12:26 pm
Thomas Jefferson’s words on “government” lifted from the link I provided at 12:17 pm
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“As. . . new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors. . . .Each generation. . . has. . .a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness.” -Thomas Jefferson
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
12:26 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
October 25th, 2012
12:09 pm
“But there is not a single one of those abuses that is not likely to get WORSE under a Romney administration.”
Lets start with the government refusing to implement laws Obama disagrees with or the illegal sale of thousands of guns to Mexican Drug Cartels resulting in hinded of Mexicans and one of our border agents killed. How about Eric Holder dropping charges of the voter intimidation thugs in Philadelphia caught on video tape. How about the solid month of lies about Benghazi. How about a sitting president suing a state because the stae wants to enforce laws the president is refusing to enforce. How about meeting in the middle of the night under cover of darkness to pass the largest boondoggle costing the most tax dollars in american history. How about refusing to turn over documents to the people we elected to keep and eye on him and his administration. I can’t see Romney doing any of this.
“Only a foolish people would want to extend the power of the current administration. ”
No. Only a foolish people is tricked by the sham of a two-party system that purports to hold both parties to account for their adherence to the rule of law and their willingness to serve the will of the people.
That is an indictment of BOTH parties not a reason to vote for one or the other.
Ever occur to you that maybe the problem is not one or the other PARTY per se? That maybe the disease is in the system itself?
I concur. Have a solution?
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
12:34 pm
Mary Elizabeth
Please find a Tom Jefferson quote advocating the government pick and chose which laws it will chose to obey and when? Examples are ignoring the welefare work requirement, ignoring enforcement of immigration law, ignoring prosecution of voter intimidation laws, making verbal agreements with foreign governments that indicate a willingness to ignore the desires of the people, ignoring congressional committee over site responsibilities as mandated by the constitution, and on and on.
Mighty Righty
October 25th, 2012
12:52 pm
Oh for a return to wisdom of John Kennedy in the white house instead of a teleprompter reading empty suit on a stage somewhere mouthing some false hood.
Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future.
John F. Kennedy
sam
October 25th, 2012
1:48 pm
dont forget Jay, corporations are people too.
Mary Elizabeth
October 25th, 2012
2:06 pm
Mighty Righty, my thinking does not overlap completely with that of Thomas Jefferson’s, but my thinking does overlap with his thinking regarding “the inherent and unalienable rights of man,” that “all are created equal,” on the need of public education to sustain our democratic republic, and the absolute necessity of freedom of thought, without constraints.
Please read my following entry in my personal blog, entitled “Egalitarianism and Capitalism,” to see how my thoughts overlap with Jefferson’s in the core of his perceptions, and how my thoughts on the role of government in today’s world overlap more with the ideas of FDR’s and FDR’s concept of a 2nd Bill of Rights for all Americans, than with Jefferson’s idea of a more limited government. However, Jefferson’s mind was so visionary and complex that he allowed for a possible changing of the role of government in the future because he believed primarily in freedom of thought, even over the role of government. We are in danger of having our freedom of thought impaired in today’s America not by the government but by the wealthy and powerful moguls of industry, of whom Jefferson always had suspicion because of their mercenary cores. He knew that these moguls would try to manipulate the majority, average citizens to serve their own mercenary interests – and would be able to do so – unless all Americans were educated – through public education – to see into the selfish machinations of the wealthy/powerful elite of our nation.
I repeat: “Each generation. . . has. . .a right to choose for itself the form of government it believes most promotive of its own happiness.” -Thomas Jefferson
Please read my post, below, in which I compare and contrast my thoughts with those of Jefferson:
http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/category/egalitarianism-and-capitalism/
Scuba Steve
October 25th, 2012
2:27 pm
My goodness, you people are dense.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
October 25th, 2012
8:13 pm
Oh boo hoo! This is very sad! No telling what kind of chicanery the Democrats are up to. One thing for sure – it will never see the light of day. If you do not like the movie, do not go see it, or go see that movie that opened some years ago where the plot line was killing Bush. Your double standard continues unabated – what a surprise!
nobodyyouknow
October 25th, 2012
10:25 pm
You watch MSNBC or NBC and you get all the lies of ROMNEY’S, you watch FOX and you get all the lies O’bama says. I have watched Romney’s biography and O’bama’s biography, I might add alot was left out of O’bama’s history. That told me alot.
Andrew of the Bay Area
October 26th, 2012
2:51 pm
Good. I encourage all honest institutions to tell the truth about Obama’s MASSIVE failures, cover ups and lies. He is trash to the core and deserves retirement for the good of the country.
Is it me are does Obama look like.......
October 28th, 2012
7:07 am
I have told my employees (98) that if Obama wins, I shut my company down. I don’t need the money, my employees and there families do. I will not have a racist radical like Obama telling me with all the pending rules and regulations what and how I can run my private business. He didn’t build this, I did!