Charter-school amendment would set off gold rush
Reading the list of out-of-state contributors to the campaign to pass Amendment 1, the state charter-schools amendment, you get the sense that an old-fashioned gold rush would begin in Georgia the moment the amendment is approved.
J.C. Huizenga, founder of Michigan-based National Heritage Academies, a for-profit charter school operator, has contributed $25,000; his company contributed a matching $25,000. Charter Schools USA, based in Florida, contributed $50,000 as well. D.A. Davidson, a financial services firm based in Great Falls, Montana that touts itself as “a recognized leader in charter school financing,” has so far given $5,000. And K12 Inc., a for-profit provider of online classes and “full-time online public schools,” has kicked in $100,000.
Those account only for contributions made through Sept. 21; the final campaign-disclosure reports may include additional big-dollar donations from companies eager to enter Georgia’s public-school marketplace.
Now, there’s nothing inherently wrong about for-profit companies operating in the education sector. However, despite the fervor of those who preach that competition solves all problems, there’s nothing inherently good about it either. None of the countries that outperform the United States in education, for example, do so through the for-profit model.
In addition, the overall shoddy performance of for-profit colleges and universities here in the United States provides stark evidence that when the profit motive conflicts with academic standards, profit takes precedence. A Senate report released this summer found that tuition at for-profit colleges averages six times that of community colleges, while the education provided is greatly inferior. Only a small fraction of students who enroll at for-profit colleges actually graduate, and those who do get degrees usually find their diplomas aren’t worth much. That explains in part why students at for-profit schools account for almost 50 percent of student-loan defaults, even though they make up just 10 percent of the nation’s student body.
And why are for-profit colleges generally inferior? In short, the $32 billion industry has found it more lucrative to compete on grounds other than education quality. According to the Senate report, the nation’s 30 largest for-profit schools spend just 17 percent of their revenue on student instruction, while spending 22.7 percent on marketing to keep fresh bodies coming in.
There’s every reason to worry that similar dynamics will play out in k-12 education. Take K12 Inc., the company that has so far contributed $100,000 to opening up the Georgia market. In Florida, where the company operates in 43 school districts, a typical K12 high school teacher may have as many as 275 online students per class, which enhances profitability if not education. Last month, Florida officials launched an investigation into charges that K12 also uses teachers uncertified for the classes they teach and that company officials asked employees to cover up that fact.
It’s also important to consider the ethical culture in which the Georgia education gold rush would take place. On Sunday, the AJC reported that the State Properties Commission — headed by Gov. Nathan Deal — decided that the best place to locate a new, $13.6 million State Poultry Laboratory was in a Hall County industrial park. In what was clearly just a happy coincidence, the park turns out to be owned in part by Deal’s close friend and campaign manager.
If an appointed commission is given the power to create state charter schools run by private enterprise, I suspect the potential for many more such happy coincidences would increase. It’s interesting, for example, that under Amendment 2, also on the November ballot, the State Properties Commission would for the first time be given constitutional authority to sign real-estate leases of up to 20 years.
There are good arguments in favor of that proposal. However, it’s also true that if one were contemplating a spate of new state-authorized charter schools, the ability to sign long-term leases with developers would be very useful in getting the necessary facilities built. Again, just a coincidence I’m sure.
– Jay Bookman
Tell us what you think about the site
Customer Care »
Vacation stops, manage subscriptions and more
AJC Services
Sections
Other Editions
Visitor Agreement | Privacy Statement
© 2013 The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
420 comments Add your comment
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
11:52 am
It is criminal malfeasance. It is deriliction of sworn duty. It is shameful.
Are you talking about Rep. Issa and Rep. Chaffetz outing the CIA and endangering the lives of Libyans who are/were helping us?
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:52 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
11:50 am
“Ahem must be one of them paid campaign spammers doing the blog rounds”
And you must be one of them.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 24th, 2012
11:52 am
Ahem – “Ambassador Christopher Stevens won’t be sneezing anymore.
Of course not, have you ever known someone who was dead to sneeze?
Chuck
October 24th, 2012
11:54 am
Who in their right mind could argue that to continue our educational system in the form that it is in now is a good idea. We spend a great deal more money per student than most of the industrialized world, all the while our results plummet against them. I will not pretend that I know the answer for fixing the problem, but I have to believe that if things do not change massively soon then we are cheating the kids.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
11:54 am
And you must be one of them
I wish…. I would love to haunt some of the wingnut blogs for money. How much are you paid?
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:55 am
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
11:52 am
If you are trying to put your head in there you may want to use some lubricant first.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
11:55 am
Ahem
And I wonder how much Ambassador Steven’s family would enjoy your little marionette puppet show with their deceased family member.
I guess it’s ok to play political chess with deceased people if you are conservative.
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
11:56 am
Doggone: He said “about as good” And while if taken literally, it doesn’t sound bad, in everyday usage, it’s not very complimentary. So anyone else could have done about as well?
If my employer gave me a review that said, “gh did about as well as anyone could”, I wouldn’t be expecting a raise and I would know that I better be keeping my options open.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:56 am
“I wish…. I would love to haunt some of the wingnut blogs for money. How much are you paid?”
I can’t say exactly, but it is in cash and they don’t issue 1099’s.
Paul
October 24th, 2012
11:56 am
Ahem
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the idea originated with some White House budget wonks.
But… why do you suppose Republican Congressional Leadership took to the idea so quickly? Why do you suppose they wrote into the legislation that programs could not be cut, but there would have to be across-the-board percentage cuts?
Could it be Republicans liked the idea of slashing the size of agencies but did not want to risk their pet programs being put on the chopping block?
Bottom line: ideas can come from all sources. But the Congress, by the Constitution, is responsible for the bills that go to the President for signature.
So what we really have are Republicans saying “well… we originated the bill… we wrote it… we sent it to the President…. BUT IT WASN”T OUR IDEA!!!”
Republicans are so fixated on a ‘gotcha’ for the President they have no idea how silly they look in all this.
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
11:57 am
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:52 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
11:50 am
“Ahem must be one of them paid campaign spammers doing the blog rounds”
And you must be one of them.
++++++++++++++++++++
Oh my what a BRILLIANT comeback.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPKf7y1F-Q
Hey Ahem, in case you didn’t know? Ambassador Stevens is dead………
Erwin's cat
October 24th, 2012
11:57 am
ME – I already voted NO to amendment 1
The fact you don’t think I understand the issue indicates that you may believe that public schools have failed to educate me in critical thinking
Peadawg
October 24th, 2012
11:57 am
“And I wonder how much Ambassador Steven’s family would enjoy your little marionette puppet show with their deceased family member.”
Hell, I wonder how much Steven’s family would appreciate Jay trying shift blame to the Ambassador himself the other day.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:57 am
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
11:55 am
You really should give up the self-colonoscopy. And your head will need a good scrub when it pops back out.
Doggone/GA
October 24th, 2012
11:58 am
“If my employer gave me a review that said, “gh did about as well as anyone could”, I wouldn’t be expecting a raise and I would know that I better be keeping my options open”
and if I got the evaluation I wouldn’t expect to be replaced…because “anyone” could only be expected to do the same as me.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
11:58 am
RB — “Look at the state of the school systems in Georgia controlled by democrats and then tell us why they’re even allowed to voice opinions on the subject.”
If this is how you actually feel, then one wonders why you even open your yap about Iraq any more.
Doggone/GA
October 24th, 2012
11:59 am
“Hell, I wonder how much Steven’s family would appreciate Jay trying shift blame to the Ambassador himself the other day”
reading comprehension’s not your strong suit I see
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
11:59 am
If you are trying to put your head in there you may want to use some lubricant first.
Well, last time I checked, Scooter Libby got convicted of outing a CIA agent. Just yesterday, a former CIA Agent pled guilt to outing another agent. So, there is precedent for criminal malfeasance in my example. What proof do you have for your allegations?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/23/us-usa-cia-plea-idUSBRE89M0YO20121023
(Reuters) – A former Central Intelligence Agency officer is expected to spend 2 1/2 years in prison for telling a journalist the name of a covert agent, marking the first time in 27 years that someone will go to prison for blowing the cover of a CIA agent.
John Kiriakou, 48, pleaded guilty on Tuesday to one count of disclosing the identity of a covert agent.
Kiriakou revealed the agent’s name in a 2008 email, one of many instances in which he helped journalists with information on activities such as waterboarding and the CIA’s interrogation of al Qaeda operative Abu Zubaydah.
It helps to be informed.
Paul
October 24th, 2012
11:59 am
Ahem
That’s two posts to Brosephus that reveal a pronounced scatological fascination –
just sayin’ -
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:00 pm
Peadawg
October 24th, 2012
11:57 am
Good point. It seems that the left has lost all ability to face the truth and will stoop to levels previously unknown in desperation to save to failed their precious little manchild.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:03 pm
Hell, I wonder how much Steven’s family would appreciate Jay trying shift blame to the Ambassador himself the other day.
I’ll offer my same suggestion to you again, Peadawg. Go research airplane crash accident investigations. The question Jay asked is the same line of questioning they use to investigate potential pilot causes of crashes. Nobody’s blaming anybody. If you don’t investigate that line of questioning, you can’t rule out anything either.
————————-
Ahem
The only thing resembling a colon around here is your spastic posting. As I posted above, I have proof of my statement, where’s yours?
paulo977
October 24th, 2012
12:03 pm
Madge F A …..” The costs have risen for the counties because the STATE has not matched the funds it should be matching towards their citizen’ education. The State is funded by the Feds and then the state “trickles down” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
_____________________________________________
Thank you for informing the uninformed ……;also check ALEC’S part in all of this!!
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:03 pm
“Republicans are so fixated on a ‘gotcha’ for the President they have no idea how silly they look in all this.”
I guess we will just have to wait and see, Paul.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:04 pm
Brosephus — “I guess it’s ok to play political chess with deceased people if you are conservative.”
They do it with disabled veterans, too, as I’m sure you know. Then, when one of up speaks up and says something different than the bulldada they’re trying to peddle as our monolithic and unified opinion, they lose their freaking MINDS. I had one brave conservative thinker tell me, over on the Marietta Square in 2004, that I ‘ain’t no vet’ran no moar’ because disabled me dared to have a Veterans for Kerry bumpersticker on my car.
Funny how displaying the wrong bumpersticker causes you to lose your veteran status, isn’t it? Do you think the VA will go as far as repossessing the disability I left the Army with, too?
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
12:04 pm
and if I got the evaluation I wouldn’t expect to be replaced…because “anyone” could only be expected to do the same as me.
I think the country deserves better than a President that can do about as good as anyone. Heck, might as well put the heathen in there.
I could do about as good as anyone.
Peadawg
October 24th, 2012
12:05 pm
“reading comprehension’s not your strong suit I see” – Um…..
“In Benghazi, Stevens fatally misjudged risk, reward”
“If you’re going to conduct a meaningful, honest assessment of what happened, that absolutely has to be part of it.”
Maybe it’s YOU Doggone who isn’t very good a reading comprehension.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:05 pm
Paul
I would say he has sh*t on the brains, but since today is Wednesday, I’m supposed to be the nice Black guy. Therefore, I’m not allowed to say that.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
“What proof do you have for your allegations?”
Read your own words and then schedule the procedure with a trained professional. Early detection could prolong your life. The prep is the worst of it and you won’t remember a thing.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:06 pm
JHM
I simply blame it on low self esteem.
Peadawg
October 24th, 2012
12:07 pm
I agree with you regarding plane crashes…but a plane crash and a terrorist attack on a foreign embassy…not even close.
alex
October 24th, 2012
12:09 pm
@getalife; sounds more like acceptance of mediocrity….”not bad”, NOT good….Sheeesh!
Mary Elizabeth
October 24th, 2012
12:09 pm
Erwin’s Cat, 11:57 am
“ME – I already voted NO to amendment 1
The fact you don’t think I understand the issue indicates that you may believe that public schools have failed to educate me in critical thinking.”
———————————————————————
I am delighted to learn that you voted NO to Amendment 1. You must remember that I am writing more for the readers of this blog than I am to any poster to whom I might choose to respond. The very fact that I have responded to your posts means that I have respect for your opinion – because you are authentic in your voice and you respond with care.
Thank you very much for voting NO to Amendment 1, Erwin’s Cat.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:10 pm
Wow. peadawg lowered the boom at 11:57. Unbelievable to see the libs say shame on you ahem. This after Jay writes a post blaming Stephens for his own death. But yet its ahem who is the bad guy for poinfing out obamas lie and the growkng scandal.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:10 pm
Ahem
Since you do it so well, I’ve gotta believe that this is you…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtZc6CrIFzE#t=01m20s
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:11 pm
Peadawg
Have you ever done incident investigation before?
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:12 pm
(Reuters) – Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.
Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:12 pm
Doom
My fault with Ahem is that, you can blame Obama all day. There’s no need to drag Ambassador Steven’s body through the streets to do that though? Anybody who would claim to respect life would also respect the deceased. If you want to co-sign that crap, then by all means don’t let me stop you.
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
Wow Doomy Really? Now you have become one of those who thinks the President sets the Security roster at every Embassy? You reckon he orders the printer paper at every federal office too?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
Ahem — “Early detection could prolong your life. The prep is the worst of it and you won’t remember a thing.”
Right, right and not necessarily.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
TaxPayer @ 11:03
Same with Obama ……….. and it’s not working.
Mary Elizabeth
October 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Paulo 977, 12:03 pm
“Thank you for informing the uninformed ……;also check ALEC’S part in all of this!!”
———————————————————————
The membership of the State Commission of Charter Schools would come from a list supplied by Georgia’s House Majority Leader and Georgia’s President of the Senate, as well as from the Governor, all of whom are Republican politicians, not educators, as in the state DOE. In addition, Rep. Jan Jones and Rep. Edward Lindsey, who sponsored HR 1162 which became the Amendment 1, are both members of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). The link, below, will show how ALEC has had its political influence into this legislation in Georgia. Rep. Jones is part of the Educational Task Force of ALEC as well as on the Education Committee of Georgia’s House of Representatives.”
http://mediamatters.org/research/2012/05/09/how-alec-is-quietly-influencing-education-refor/184156
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:14 pm
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:10 pm
They don’t allow us to click on links, but I hope you and others enjoy it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 24th, 2012
12:15 pm
Barack “Snark” Obama
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:16 pm
To be clear: I don’t click on the links to you tube that I can’t verify as safe.
Peadawg
October 24th, 2012
12:16 pm
“Have you ever done incident investigation before?” – Nope. Keep spinning and sticking up for Jay. Next.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:18 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:13 pm
Yikes. I have never spoken to anyone that remembered the actual invasive procedure, but I suppose it could happen sometimes. Sounds like you have anecdotal evidence of this happening.
Mary Elizabeth
October 24th, 2012
12:19 pm
In my last post, my words “all of whom are Republican politicians, not educators. . .” referred to the Governor, the House Majority Leader, and the President of the Senate, and not to the people on the lists they may provide. Those words were unintentionally ambiguously stated.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
12:21 pm
Doom: Wow. peadawg lowered the boom at 11:57. Unbelievable to see the libs say shame on you ahem. This after Jay writes a post blaming Stephens for his own death. But yet its ahem who is the bad guy for poinfing out obamas lie and the growkng scandal
When you post really stupid lies that border on idiotic, you have Pompous Assenisia.
When you post whines about a lie that asserts your faux horror at a lie of “blaming an ambassador for their own death” but you support a troll post that uses that same ambassador as a prop for inane political claims, you have Pompous Assenisia.
Beware the spreader of this FTD…..
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
12:22 pm
Yikes. I have never spoken to anyone that remembered the actual invasive procedure, but I suppose it could happen sometimes.
I watched the whole thing on the little TV. Thought I was watching “Voyage to the Center of the Earth”.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:24 pm
Fred,
The buck stops with the president. Plain and simple.
Brocephus,
Dragging Stephens name through the mud ? This from the liberal left who constantly harped on u.s. Soldiers for political points? Puh leeze! Its stunning to see you guys bringing out the shame on ahem card one day after Jay seemed to blame Stephens himself for his own death. ahem isn’t even blaming our dragging his name around. He is asking went the o admin lied and tried to blame this on a damn video of all things. The hypocrisy of you guys knows no bounds. None.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 24th, 2012
12:26 pm
By the way, Here’s Donald Trumps “October Surprise” that was going to be devestating to the Obama campaign.
“Trump guaranteed that he would stay in the spotlight for at least another week by calling on Obama to get the universities he attended to release the president’s college applications and transcripts. The Donald also asked to see Obama’s passport application. If Obama does this by October 31, Trump said he would write a check in the amount of $5 million out to a charity of Obama’s choice.”
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:26 pm
In the 11 swing states, Mitt Romney earns 50% of the vote to Obama’s 46%. Two percent (2%) like another candidate in the race, and another two percent (2%) are undecided.
This is now the fourth time Romney has hit the 50% mark in the combined swing states in the past five days. This survey is conducted on a rolling seven-day basis, and most of the interviews for today’s update were completed before the end of Monday night’s presidential debate. Romney has now held a modest lead for 13 of the last 16 days; Obama was ahead twice, and the candidates ran even once.
In 2008, Obama won these states by a combined margin of 53% to 46%, virtually identical to his national margin.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:27 pm
Tweedledum you need some new and funnier material if you really want some of my attentions.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 24th, 2012
12:28 pm
So child by rape is simply God’s planning? Guess we now have seen it all…too bizarre for words…
Already a humanist….gonna double down on my writings for Humanist Mag…
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 24th, 2012
12:28 pm
It really does not matter much to me about emails sent with 2 hours of the Benghazi attacks indicating who was responsible. I understand that acknowledging this group could be exactly what they wanted. It is a common practice in criminal investigations to “allow” the perpetrators to think they have gotten away with it. Those 2 weeks would have been used to uncover clues to capture those responsible. And now a suspect has been captured in Tunisia. I place more value on the actions to capture these terrorists than on whether not or the White House is sharing emails about the subject with the world.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:28 pm
I think I would have to ask for the remote
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:29 pm
Ahem
Well, it’s a video of Wonder Woman deflecting bullets. Your fascination with my colon is nothing but deflecting from the question I asked you. If you are seriously interested in uncovering criminal malfeasance, why are you not questioning the criminal activities going on by the investigation committee? There’s no need to get all defensive and/or ugly about it. I’m just asking a question. If you don’t want to answer it, just be man enough to say so without all the deflection.
————————-
Peadawg
It ain’t spin dude. As much as you want to believe what you believe, I’m not trying to change your mind, nor am I trying to defend Jay. If, for example, a questioning of why Stevens was there reveals he got a request to show up at that particular date/time, then that would go to back up the notion of a well planned, well orchestrated attack. I can guarantee you that the FBI investigators are looking into why he was there, and it ain’t to lay blame on him. You do that line of questioning to rule out him as a contributing factor. Maybe you’ll understand that when you get a few more years under your belt.
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
12:29 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:24 pm
Fred,
The buck stops with the president. Plain and simple.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Right, so when they are out of coffee at the Embassy in Singapore The President needs to rush his happy little ass right over there and fix another pot. I get it.
Thanks for re-emphasizing the utter stupidity of the right wing base. Thank you also for replaying the Boortz show………..
yuzeyurbrane
October 24th, 2012
12:30 pm
Remember, Governor Deal comes from a family of educators. I understand he still has plenty of living ones around. Time for consultants for for-profit education companies.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:30 pm
Ahem — “Yikes. I have never spoken to anyone that remembered the actual invasive procedure, but I suppose it could happen sometimes. Sounds like you have anecdotal evidence of this happening.”
Three times, actually.
I’m no longer on Kaiser (employer switched to United and I’m displeased about that), but I clearly recall ALL THREE colonoscopies I had while I was a Kaiser member. There was no oral or inhaled anesthesia, just something IVed into the back of my hand, but they didn’t even stick me until about five minutes before the procedure started — certainly not enough time for anything to kick in.
Kaiser thoughtfully provides flat-screen monitors right in front of your face as you’re lying on your side during the examination, so you can see all your insides in Glorious Living Color. During my first scope, the doctor wanted to take a few biopsies, so he used the little butterfly-shaped nipper device on the procto probe as he was backing out. I couldn’t actually feel that, so I thought the anesthesia was starting to take effect — until he took a couple samples from the last stretch of colon. I could *definitely* feel those.
They actually offered copies of the pictures if I wanted them. I asked for a digital copy so I could send it to Capital One and have them put the pic on my credit card, but no dice.
The anesthesia seemed to have its full effect about 30-60 minutes after they stuck me, so IMO either they need something stronger or they need to administer it a lot earlier to patients. This five-minutes-before-liftoff thing happened with all three of the scope procedures Kaiser did on me, so I guess it’s just a flaw in their standard butt-o-scope procedure.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
12:31 pm
He is asking went the o admin lied and tried to blame this on a damn video of all things
When you still don’t know that CIA reporting indicates that an offensive movie trailer intended to incite was part of the cause and you have to lie about emails that indicated that were not fully verified and that responsible people should jump to conclusions like some birther conspirator……. you have a serious case of Pompous Assenisia.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 24th, 2012
12:32 pm
BRO,
Has the discussion hit new lows? Are we really discussing colonoscopy? Having had growths removed in such fashion…my conclusion is simple..
NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS A ROOM WITH A DRAIN IN THE FLOOR.
Of course that was before they started putting me down for the procedure…
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 24th, 2012
12:33 pm
October surprise!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/24/the-gloria-allred-october-surprise/
Jay
October 24th, 2012
12:33 pm
USMC, “I’m a Liberal”:
What’s your take on the Trump “game-changer” that you found so exciting?
You’ve been played once again, gentlemen.
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:33 pm
Doom: Its stunning to see you guys bringing out the shame on ahem card one day after Jay seemed to blame Stephens himself for his own death. ahem isn’t even blaming our dragging his name around.
B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!!!!!!!
Where have you seen me denigrate any military?? Put up your damned broad brush and open your eyes for once…
You tell me exactly what benefit to the discussion about Benghazi does these statements have:
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:47 am
When is your Mother coming for you?
That is not a possiblity. My Dad won’t be coming either. Neither will Ambassador Stevens.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:49 am
“Bless you!! That sneeze sounds pretty bad.”
Ambassador Christopher Stevens won’t be sneezing anymore. Ask Obama why.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
11:51 am
“Bunch of noise from the Rightwingers.”
Ambassador Stevens makes no noise. He died while Obama slept.
You can defend that sh*t all you want to, but that is not necessary nor is it beneficial to the conservative argument. It makes you conservatives look like opportunistic jackasses.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:34 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:24 pm
My drawing of their flak is a good sign; an indicator they have me on their radar. I could get a raise.
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
12:34 pm
Wonder Woman hell Brocephus, the Republicans think President Obama should have tele ported himself to Benghazi with an M60 and started whipping Muslim ass Rambo style and saved Stevens singlehandedly.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 24th, 2012
12:34 pm
JOE HUSSEIN,
That’s funny…Last August, I got to have a colonoscopy simultaneous with endoscopy…my first question was “do the camera’s see each other in the middle”?
Fly-On-The-Wall
October 24th, 2012
12:34 pm
Seems like someone should be screaming ‘death panels’ since this amendment would set up an appointed, not elected board to decide on the health of local schools and override local decisions.
Doggone/GA
October 24th, 2012
12:35 pm
“I think the country deserves better than a President that can do about as good as anyone”
“as good as anyone” means NO ONE CAN DO BETTER
East Cobb RINO, Inc. (LLC)
October 24th, 2012
12:35 pm
Combined swing state polling is completely meaningless. The electoral votes are not awarded by the entire block of these states. Electoral votes are awarded by each state and they are all mostly within margin of error.
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
12:35 pm
Well the sick child has awoken, time to go play nurse. Later.
They BOTH suck
October 24th, 2012
12:35 pm
Jay
Of course these are the same bloggers who thought Hillary not going to the convention was some big conspiracy as well………………..
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:36 pm
Stevie Ray
Knocking on wood as I haven’t had any procedures done in such a room yet. But I understand the thought.
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
12:37 pm
JHM,
My recollections were similar, but I had different insurance so I don’t think that’s it. I think they just twilight you enough to make you compliant and at peace with what’s going down (up). Some that are prone to hysterics probably get the full nighty-night dosage.
Paul
October 24th, 2012
12:37 pm
Ahem
“Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.”
We’ve had numerous cases of all sorts of group taking credit for various hits to American interests.
How do you think it would have played if the President got his CIA-prepared daily brief, then Carney went before reporters and said “well, this Islamic group says they did it, we haven’t been able to corroborate it, but we’re gonna believe the Islamists, so that’s our story and we’re sticking to it.”?
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:37 pm
Fred ™
October 24th, 2012
12:34 pm
Wow, Fred. You leap better than a big ol’ slimy bullfrog leaving the pond’s edge in the moonlight.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:37 pm
S. Ray — “NOTHING GOOD HAPPENS A ROOM WITH A DRAIN IN THE FLOOR.”
I must disagree. My college fraternity’s Consolidated Partyin’ and Throw-Down Room had a drain in the floor. Made Sunday cleanups a whole lot easier.
Paul
October 24th, 2012
12:39 pm
Ahem
One other point in all this: it almost seems the storyline’s changed to say the administration denied an attack took place.
The issue had been, was it preplanned, opportunistic, the group protesting a video, some other group, what?
And not “was it Muslims doing the attacking?”
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:39 pm
S. Ray — “Last August, I got to have a colonoscopy simultaneous with endoscopy…my first question was “do the camera’s see each other in the middle”?”
LMAO
They BOTH suck
October 24th, 2012
12:39 pm
All we need now is for Thulsa to declare Ahem the winner or someone else the loser…….
Thulsa: You like to be the winner, so I would declare yourself the winner today.
Jay is giving away a Chia Pet to the next winner.
It will go well with your Kinsu knives and AJC coozie
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
12:40 pm
“as good as anyone” means NO ONE CAN DO BETTER
Yea, sure dog. Whatever you want to believe.
Cactus
October 24th, 2012
12:41 pm
Welcome to Louisiana style politics where Nathan Deal is a self styled Huey Long and everything is for sale………at our expense.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:43 pm
Paul,
Your premise is strange: How do you think it would have played if the President got his CIA-prepared daily brief, then Carney went before reporters…
The point is that the White House knew it wasn’t about a video. They had time to order some military assets into the area to break it up, or at least make an attempt. They chose to take no immediate action and then chose to formulate and foist an apparent politically calculated ruse.
If you choose to join in and support that type of manipulation at the hands of the Oblunda administration then that is your choice. What they did was at least incompetent; but seems to be much worse.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:43 pm
G. Heathen — “I think they just twilight you enough to make you compliant and at peace with what’s going down (up). Some that are prone to hysterics probably get the full nighty-night dosage.”
The only time I got agitated was during the second procedure. It felt like I had the most horrendous gas pains in recorded human history and I thought something was going to pop down there.
Doggone/GA
October 24th, 2012
12:48 pm
“Yea, sure dog. Whatever you want to believe”
I see that reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit either.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2012
12:48 pm
Bro,
I never said that u personally denigrated the troops but that Libs in general did
with the w lied troops died crap.And u know that. And ahem is not denigrating Stephens. He is denigrating the o administration for its failure to protect him and the ensuing coverup. You’re trying to make it like ahem is trying to convey something which he is clearly not trying to Convey.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:49 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:30 pm
I have had just one and the wife has had three. Neither of us remembered a single detail from the time the surgeon showed up until the recovery nurse said we could leave after passing gas. It must be a different procedure than what you and others have mentioned here. We do use a very highly acclaimed colorectal surgeon working out of St. Josephs in Atlanta.
Doggone/GA
October 24th, 2012
12:50 pm
I think I’m beginning to see why some of our conned posters think the public school system is failing. More projection. Because they didn’t learn much, they can’t see that others DID.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 24th, 2012
12:50 pm
sheets….. adults and those not suffering illness are welcome.
Ahem
October 24th, 2012
12:53 pm
They BOTH suck
October 24th, 2012
12:39 pm
I will forego any awards and prizes and think we are all best served when the truth wins. It is somewhat surprising that so many in positions to invesitigate and write stories and research the truth seem to have suspended their obligation due to the presidential election cycle.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:55 pm
Ahem — “The point is that the White House knew it wasn’t about a video. They had time to order some military assets into the area to break it up, or at least make an attempt.”
You may not have seen the discussion the other day, but it was pointed out that the closest air assets would have been *much* more destructive than needed. You could certainly reply that airborne or air assault troops could have been inserted, but from my recent readings, it seems that embassy security is the host nation’s job. Apparently the Marine guards serve mostly a ceremonial function, as well as ensuring that classified documents and commo gear is not compromised or captured.
They BOTH suck
October 24th, 2012
12:56 pm
Ahem
Based on the “Bomb shell” predictions you have made, you are not exactly an individual seeking the truth. You seem to be one that will take anything that will meet your narrative whether it is the truth or not.
I will wait for the FBI analysis to come out on Libya.
You could be correct, but for now you have conjecture and as always it works to meet your narrative………
And it is Thulsa who usually says about bloggers winning or losing………….
So I like to mess with him about it
Joe Hussein Mama
October 24th, 2012
12:58 pm
Ahem — “We do use a very highly acclaimed colorectal surgeon working out of St. Josephs in Atlanta.”
Could you be speaking of either Dr. Ambroze or Dr. Orangio?
Brosephus™
October 24th, 2012
12:58 pm
Doom
You might wanna paint with a smaller brush then.
Brocephus,
Dragging Stephens name through the mud ? This from the liberal left who constantly harped on u.s. Soldiers for political points? Puh leeze!
THAT sounds like you’re broadbrushing me as part of the liberal left who did as you stated? If you didn’t mean that about me personally, then why put that comment in where you were addressing me personally?
If he’s not denigrating Stevens, then why did he have to post those statements that I copied? What purpose do those statements serve?
They BOTH suck
October 24th, 2012
1:00 pm
Ahem
Case in point………… Univision and Donald Trump “bombshells”
You fall for it every time…………….
Nothing about you in terms of this blog is seeking the truth
Marcus Byrd @ TeacherAde
October 24th, 2012
1:06 pm
I don’t see a problem with charter schools who are for profit. Even if the primary objective is to make a profit…they still have to perform to stay open. If a charter is under-performing, then don’t renew the charter.
What I think is a bigger issue is the amount of students we are shoving in to college. That is not always the best solution.
http://www.teacherade.com/2012/10/the-first-question-in-debate.html
Paul
October 24th, 2012
1:12 pm
Ahem
Sorry for the late reply – lunch break.
“The point is that the White House knew it wasn’t about a video. ”
“Knew” does not mean ‘aware of’ in that realm. It means confirmed, verified. Saying a Muslim group took responsibility means the WH knew it was preplanned is just not how things work.
After all we went through with giving priority to unreliable sources before we went into Iraq, I’d think we’d want to very carefully assess from here on out.
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
1:21 pm
I read fine, dog. If you are happy with a President that is about as good as anyone, I’m glad for you. I’ll set a higher standard.
godless heathen
October 24th, 2012
1:22 pm
Case in point………… Univision and Donald Trump “bombshells”
And Gloria Allred’s “October Surprise” linked earlier?