Did you know that the NFL is a tax-exempt nonprofit?

I’m all for a new stadium w/ a retractable roof…but Arthur Blank needs to pay for it himself. Period.

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” The NFL has its own exemption, written into federal law, that makes it exempt from federal corporate taxes.”

Money doesn’t buy votes. Money’s just like someone talking and expressing an opinion, don’tcha’ know?

Okay, Republicans who want to cut waste and balance the budget. You all are going to get on board and write your Congressman and Senators and demand this classification be dropped, right?

Or are you going to argue that by dropping the classification, the NFL will have to pay taxes and you’re against any tax increases?

Which is it?

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If the teams themselves have to pay corporate taxes, as the article suggests, I’m not flabbergasted.

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Granny

This is football, not baseball. White Suxxxxx are a Chicago baseball team.

Just tryin’ to be helpful -

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Actually…I *did* know this! And I’m not even a fan of football

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Paul

I always appreciate sportz learnin.

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Kinda blown away by that information to be honest.

And kudos to Paul for calling out Republicans. It is obviously a Republican issue.

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If a new Georgia Dome is built, it will not guarantee that the Falcons will win a Super bowl. Down in New Orleans they went through Katrina where there was a lot of damage to their dome; it was repaired and they continue to play there today. They were still able to capture a Super bowl Championship. I think that Arthur Blank can afford to build the Dome with some of those tax free dollars and the people of Atlanta can use their money to help the struggling schools!! This demonstrates how out-of-touch this state and the Republican Administration are with reality.

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Taxpayer subsidized concussions and carnage.

Times like this I just wanna raise the flag, slap on some Toby Keith and go put my boot in the ass of some uppity muslim!

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Georgia on my mind…

Actually is Mayor Kasim Reed who is pushing for this stadium….The motel tax is more of a city issue, not a state issue

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Is the City of Atlanta responsibile for writing Georgia’s Tax Laws?

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The Congress in 1966 had a Democratic supermajority. Interesting how times have changed.

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Deep Thought:

I wonder if Senator Tom Coburn ever got to the bottom of that “rampant lesbianism” in America’s public schools, that so gravely concerned him once upon a time?

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(messed up link @ 8.28, my bad. here ’tis)

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Needless to say, the NFL, PGA and NHL will pour as much money as necessary into Republican coffers in order to keep this tax free status.

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“The state Legislature had to vote to extend the hotel-motel tax, which it quickly and quietly did several years ago”

Ohmygoodness, you mean the entire state of Georgia is part of the 47% who are dependent on government for everything, including even their entertainment, and they expect other people to pay their way ’cause they’re entitled to watch people run around and catch balls?

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Didn’t know that either; not surprising however, seems like many of our laws in this republic are slanted towards wealth and wealthy entities. My advice to you is – get rich and reap the benefits! Then, you too can put out a memo and strongly urge your workers to vote for the mittsiah or else…

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“NO WONDER COMPANIES LOOK TO MOVE OPERATIONS AND HEADQUARTERS OUTSIDE THE USA!”

I have no problem revoking their citizenship (since they’re people now) and denying them the protection of our military.

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So the NFL is part of that 47% “who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them…”

In-ter-rest-ing!

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Matti

I hear ya!

Take the Gwinnett Braves Stadium boondoggle apart and drag it downtown
and duct tape the whole damn thing to the dome…..

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Tom Middleton

“In Texas, football is a religion.”

Ben Schwartzwalder, football coach, Syracuse University

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Thanks for pointing this out, Jay. I didn’t know they were considered a tax-exempt non-profit.

Perhaps Mitt can be more specific and identify this loophole as the first on his long list of loopholes that he would eliminate in order to fund more bigger tax cuts for the wealthiest. Do players have to pay federal taxes on their salaries. Do the owners have to withhold payroll taxes on the players.

Senator Coburn’s staff needs a thank you as well for bringing this issue to light.

On a side note, do you know if the lingerie league is a tax-exempt non-profit too.

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they beat the hell out of each other in the ring, then they all go shower together.

…using water that once cleansed Josef STALIN.

but our “zeke” is on the case.

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“On a side note, do you know if the lingerie league is a tax-exempt non-profit too.”

TaxPayer, funny you should bring that up.

“Victoria’s Secret to sell items at Cowboys Stadium”

http://seattletimes.com/html/sports/2019286917_apfbncowboysvictoriassecret.html

(” Forbes magazine this month named the Dallas Cowboys the NFL’s most valuable team for the sixth consecutive year, worth more than $2 billion.”)

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This has been going on for decades…long before the Republicans took over the reigns.

Yes, many of the current Republicans were labeled Democrats back then.

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sfd @8:40
You may want to read up on Godwin’s Law.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.10/godwin.if_pr.html

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Good column Jay. Let’s look even deeper at more of this unknown corruption. I am in the tax and accounting world and I can tell you, this is only the tip of the iceberg for exemptions and unfair practices. Keep digging.

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What would justify the NFL being classified as a non profit?
Stuff like this. No wonder this Nation is going broke.
I had a business that was non profit, but it wasn’t intentional.

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Ryan: And verily, verily I say unto you: The winner will become the loser and the loser shall win!

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And many SuperPACs are currently considered “charities” under a weird reading of the tax code that might eventually get corrected if someone running the IRS grows a pair and goes after them.

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Paul- You can post that on the heels of Ryan’s question regarding the Wisconsion – Ohio State game?

He said who ever has the worst record. At this time that would mean WI. What did you not understand?

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BIG GOVERNMENT SOSHULIZM! The American people are FORCED to watch Gladiators fight because the government is SO BIG that it pays for that stuff and MAKES you watch it!

END THE NFL SUBSIDY NOW!

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About the only entity that special interest groups haven’t gotten tax exempt status is you and me.

We’re all a bunch of suckers.

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I did know this. It’s pretty much impossible for a NFL team NOT to make a profit no matter how bad their team is. Also teams will threaten to move to LA if their stadiums isn’t built. This practice has been going on for at least a decade.

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The NFL needs the big government help so it can compete with socialist college football.

We love our socialism here in the south. The socialist Georgia Bulldogs often disappoint but not the socialist SEC.

Goooooooooo S O C I A L I S T S, sic ‘em, woof, woof, woof.

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Let’s see. That’s 18 billion in waste identified by Coburn’s staff. So for a one trillion dollar deficit, that works out to be about 1.8%. Only 98.2% left to go. I know! Let each state identify 2% of the waste and cut it. If we use 50 states as the base line, that would eliminate the deficit entirely and if we use the Republican talking point of 57 states, we could actually start reducing the debt as a bonus!

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My kids sum league and high school swim teams are tax exempt entities as well. Maybe you libs can encourage Obama to add changing that law to his platform so we can pay for more welfare programs on the backs of these evil swim team parents. That should go over well.

You people making this a republican issue are just whacked.

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JKL2

“What did you not understand?”

Oh, I understood very well your mind dwells upon the major issues facing the American voter, topics like ‘teleprompter’ and…. ‘teleprompter.’

Then, when that’s exhausted, it moves on to… ‘teleprompter.’

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JAY,

I reviewed audited financial statements of NFL…Fun facts…annual revenue is app $150M with 2010 net loss of ($37M)…The auditors advise that no uncertainty exists for non-profit status to be eliminated…Most significant item is G-3 loan program to help teams build new venues..They are currently tapped out with outstanding loans over $800M…

Typical stuff fof 501(c)3’s…however the organization, like many, many for-profits is set up to lose money…

Of course, the unions contribute the lions share of pressure to always increase ticket prices but you should assume that if 501(C)3 was lifted and taxes were incurred, they would simply pass the cost to teams who will pass the cost to fans….

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Yeah but, but, but… by paying NO taxes the NFL creates jobs and the wealth TRICKLES DOWN to everyone below!

CORPORATE WELFARE! Whatever that means.

I am TOTALLY kidding! I am no fan professional teams paying NO taxes as a NON-profit.

And furthermore, I have never liked the idea of city Taxes/Bonds being used to PAY for a NFL Teams stadium.

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Woodstock Mike: The point is simple but I guess it’s over your head. The administration blamed the attacks on a video, which turned out to have nothing to do with the attacks at all.

Saying it had something to do with a video and saying it was an act of terror are not mutually exclusive statements.

In addition, when the administration found out the facts, they corrected themselves to the American Public. Know what that’s called? TRANSPARENCY. Another promise kept for the President.

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Republican here…. The NFL should not be tax exempt, nor should taxpayers be paying a dime for stadiums. They used to make the argument that it brings more money in, but studies have shown that not to be the case. When taxpayers build stadiums for NFL teams, taxpayers lose money and NFL owners gain money.

And if Arthur Blank threatens to move the team, call his bluff. As big a football fan as I am, I’d rather have no team here than have a team that picks my pocket and then expects me to thank them for it.

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I could let the NFL slide on the non-proft tax exempt thingie but the one that really gripes me is folks like Karl Rove getting tax-exempt status for his super pac. Those things need to be taxed at 110% and the owners thrown in pauper’s prison the first time they are delinguent on a tax payment..

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AN OLDIE BUT GOODIE!

An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan.” All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for dollars – something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little..

The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. It could not be any simpler than that.

Remember, there IS a test coming up. The 2012 elections.

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Jay, thank you for that important piece of info. Now, that I know they are a struggling tax-exempt non-profit I understand why we all have to pitch and build Artie Blank his new stadium. It is kind of like helping Mother Teresa.

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The truth is Mitt Romney is gaining votes every single day while Obama is losing votes every single day. Americans don’t like excuses and obviously things aren’t going well when it comes to jobs and the economy. Jobless claims just came out again this morning, up almost 50K. Now that people see Mitt Romney isn’t the “crazy” guy that Obama painted him to be Mitt is pulling away. Go Mitt!!

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I heard this story about a drill sgt that had this group of recruits that wanted to be treated differently based on performance but one of the USMC recruits didn’t like the idea because he knew he spent all his time on line posting on blogs instead of doing the pushups that the other recruits did…

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Oh, I thought the NFL is one of the small businesses that politicians want to protect!

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TAXPAYER et al,

No way this single report captures a fraction of the leakage that really occurs in various programs..consider that in 2009 Obama indicated that he identified waste in spending at .004 of 1% or $140 million…Shortly thereafter, he found 622 Billion of waste in Medicare/Medicaid alone and used this as an offset for PelosiCare…ie any waste they identify is justification for new spending…of course the GOP isn’t any better.

Point here is that there are many reports on waste but nothing is ever done about it that results in less spending…

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SURPRISE!

Weekly Jobless Claims Drop Proves to Be Short-Lived:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/49460659

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USMC

Good story, but the problem is that no country has ever been like that. No matter where you go, there are more successful people and those that aren’t.

Since you are obviously implying Obama/Democrats are socialists, I contend that they really only want everybody to have a “fair shot’, not a guarantee.

Jay’s column about tax exemptions is exactly how special interest groups get “unfair” traetment at the expense of the rest of us, including you.

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Woodstock Mike

October 18th, 2012
9:11 am
I think these readers need to do some research and see how many NFL owners are registered Democrats and enormous Democratic party donors. Guess because they are Democrats it’s cool though…

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Really Woodstock? You know this to be true because you have already done the research? And now your just being tease?

Frankly I think that’s piffle.

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Go Mitt!!

Yes, please Go!. Back to Massachusetts, or California, or Michigan , or the Cayman Islands, or wherever you are from.

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“Since you are obviously implying Obama/Democrats are socialists, I contend that they really only want everybody to have a “fair shot’, not a guarantee.”

It may start out that way but it soon develops into “equal outcomes” and “guarantees” !

Just look at affirmative action.

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Bad news for the country was just released indicating new unemployment claims at 388,000, which is up about 46,000 over last week, and subject to revision, typically upwards. Oh my…

Don’t be shocked if the country hires a new head coach and staff.

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Steve:

Exactly !

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Terroist attacks in New Yawk City……..and Bookman writes about the NFL.
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The FBI now has a 100% record of thwarting their OWN terrorist attacks.
(except for maybe fast n furious, I don’t really know if that qualifies).
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Where’s the love for your overlords Bookman?

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USMC

When will the unemployment rate be next adjusted relative to teh 7.8% recently pronounced?

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I’m trying to figure out how a story about the tax exempt NFL did a pivot to Benghazi? Someone must have bust’d a move on us.

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Off topic but too good to pass up…

Controversial conservative author Dinesh D’Souza, who is also president of The King’s College, is in hot water for allegedly introducing a 29-year-old woman as his fiancée while he is still married.

Conservative provocateur Dinesh D’Souza, riding a wave of attention for his successful anti-Obama documentary, 2016: Obama’s America, suddenly finds himself swamped by a different sort of attention, this time over his alleged relationship with a 29-year-old woman with whom he shared a hotel room and described as his “fiancée” despite still being married to his wife of 20 years.

Another lying, religous, republican conservative…..

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And the players are the ones getting screwed on tax liability. They have to file and pay an income tax in every state and even to certain cities (Philadelphia, for example) where they play a game because they technically earn their money for that game in that state/city. Maybe not as big a deal to Tom Brady and the like, but the journeyman players… It’s good to be Roger Goodell!

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Wow USMC, you are all over the place. One week you are whining about fake job numbers produced by the government. Next week you prance out government job numbers with Glee.

Try an unbiased source like Gallup, Oct 17.

“WASHINGTON, D.C. — U.S. unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, is 7.3% in mid-October, down considerably from 7.9% at the end of September and at a new low since Gallup began collecting employment data in January 2010. Gallup’s seasonally adjusted unemployment rate is 7.7%, also down from September. October’s adjusted mid-month measure is also more than a percentage point lower than October 2011.”

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158060/unadjusted-unemployment-mid-october.aspx

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So Dinesh D’Souza pulled a Clinton.

More of a guy thing instead of a political thing.

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So, how many people are still pretending Obama wasn’t referring to the Benghazi attack when he was saying “acts of terror” and “this terrible act”?

I’ve been at least vaguely aware of right wing attack talking-points for, oh, probably four decades now.

This is, possibly by a wide margin, the most intellectually bankrupt, and possibly the most ridiculous (I don’t want to make this sound like it’s a joke, but it *is* ridiculous), attack talking-point I’ve heard in all these years.

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“More of a guy thing instead of a political thing.”

Wrong. Republicans are supposed to be the party of family values.

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“Wrong. Republicans are supposed to be the party of family values.”

So the Democrat’s are the party that cheats on their wives. I am not sure all Dem’s agree with you.

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Did someone say Party of Family Values.

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“I heard those fake 1000 pound bobmbs can be a real bear to detonate.”

When are Republicans going to start with their next wacky conspiracy theory? How a bout it guys?

Was the government faking this attack to win the election. You know, like the fake unemployment numbers?

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“Thousands and thousands of people pay taxes directly or indirectly related to the NFL.”

You nailed it. The key word is “people”. But the NFL (corporation) is not paying.

Thanks for playing.

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Just to keep the record straight….. in 1966 when this law was passed, there was a Senate majority of 64/36 Dems to Repubs and a 248/187 House majority D/R….. and by the way, we had a Democratic president as well. So, libs….. where is the indignation?

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So, how many people are still pretending Obama wasn’t referring to the Benghazi attack when he was saying “acts of terror” and “this terrible act”?

You mean besides Candy Drop Crowley?

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Well, this is one of those thingies where you’re not suppose to look too close at the NFL. It’s sorta like if Romney can cut the tax rates by 20% and spend 2 trillion more on Defense and continue the Bush tax cuts without raising taxes on anybody to pay for it all—well, it’s kinda rude and boorish to question it.

Besides, we kinda kick the can down the road to pay for the new stadium. You know, don’t tax you, don’t tax me, tax the heck out of the rubes that come in here as tourists.

Anyhow, somebody needs to give Bookman’s knuckles a good hard rap with a yard stick and tell him to mind his own business. There’s some things you just have to beleive on Faith alone. Have a good Thursday everybody.

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ATL BORN…

No, the real winners are tax lawyers…they don’t want the tax code to change one iota..

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Some people are clueless that it does not matter who was in control of the congress at the time the exemption was passed (btw, as a side note, says X number of Dems were in the congress does not indicated who voted for or against a bill). It’s bad policy and, in light of today’s concerns and the deficit, should be stopped.

Just to set the record straight.

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“Wrong. Republicans are supposed to be the party of family values.”

So true. And it’s so funny to see people like Steve-USA thinking it’s just a “guy” thing when these people base their whole politcal beliefs on, and preach, family values. They all say – vote for us because we are morally better people. I wonder back in Clinton’s day if Steve-USA was telling everyone “Hey, it’s not a polical thing. It’s just a guy thing.”

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kayaker 71 – 9:49

1966???????

Some of us have grown up and learned not to live in the past.

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Jim Murphy is like a lot of business executives these days—looking to hire but having a hard time finding the right people for the jobs he needs to fill.
In fact, the CEO at Almac Clinical Technologies in Souderton, Pa., has faced this unlikely problem for the past several years, a time during which his life-sciences business has expanded but the pool of workers fitting his needs has not.
“We’ve steadily been hiring for the last couple of years, but it’s always a lot of work,” Murphy said in a recent interview. “You end up having to develop ways to try and and find these folks, whether it’s using recruiters, strengthening your own recruiting focus internally, even just old-school things, like bigger internal employee referral bonuses.”

http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/10/14344079-heres-whats-really-holding-back-the-jobs-market?lite=obinsite

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romney.. 5 point plan

Romney doesn’t have a “plan”. he has a bunch of ideas that don’t add up. They don’t add up mathematically and they don’t add up to a “plan”. Just a bunch of vague poll-tested sound bites with no details.

Call us when he fills in the blanks with details about how he plans to cut tax rates by 20% while at the same time eliminating deductions that only total about 4% of that 20% in lost revenue and still somehow balances the budget.

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RB from Gwinnett

Too many to list. But, if you think this world is fair and everybody has a fair shot, you haven’t been exposed to many groups like women, minorities, handicapped, etc.

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For-profit schools often seek to provide vocational skills rather than traditional academic training and could, in theory, move more quickly to respond to changes in what employers are demanding. The industry argues that it gives working parents, returning service members, and other nontraditional students more freedom to earn degrees.

Other data back up Harkin’s concerns. Statistics from 2011 show the percentage of students who get a diploma within six years of entering a for-profit school is 28 percent — half the 56 percent graduation rate at public institutions. Meanwhile, a 2010 Education Trust report found that the graduation rate at the University of Phoenix, by far the nation’s largest college system of any kind, was only 9 percent; the 12 percent at its Boston campus was barely better. (The University of Phoenix told the Arizona Republic that its internal records show a 36 percent graduation rate.) In 2010 and 2011, the Government Accountability Office found irregularities at a number of for-profit institutions — recruitment tactics in which enrollees were told not to worry about student debt, unrealistic projections of how much students would earn with their degrees, and inconsistent adherence to academic standards, including inaction against plagiarism.

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In 2010, the registered NFL nonprofit alone received $184 million from its 32 member teams. It holds over $1 billion in assets. Together with its subsidiaries and teams – many of which are for-profit, taxed entities – the NFL generates an estimated $9 billion annually. Each of its teams are among the top 50 most expensive sports teams in the world, ranking alongside the world’s famous soccer teams. Almost half of professional football teams are valued at over $1 billion.
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I believe you are confusing the league with the team. I do not think the teams themselves are non-profits. A non-profit means there is no profit. It does not mean it doesn’t have any assest or revenue. All non-profits have assets. There are several non-profits which have revenues of over $1 billion. The Mayo Foundation has 5.8 billion in revenue plus with assets over 3 Bilion.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/14/Revenue_1.html

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“Romney doesn’t have a “plan”. he has a bunch of ideas that don’t add up.”

Like…..Obama!

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Now that would have been a great debate question for either candidate, “Do you support ending the tax exempt status that the NFL currently enjoys?”…. cricket, cricket, cricket….

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As an entity the NFL or other associations operate under 501(c)3 or 5 status and are tax exempt. Basically good non-profits are restricted in distribution of proceeds to directors. They can and do pay salaries for staff positions and other reasonable expenses. They players, coaches and all other personnel pay all kinds of taxes so don’t get your panties in such a wad.

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Yet I’m quite certain BO has in fact issued specifics about his vision for the next four years…does anyone know where I can find it?

You mean this? http://www.barackobama.com/issues?source=primary-nav-see-more

The basic plan for the next four years is finish what he started in the past four years and expand on it to the extent that the Republicans allow.

Elect Romney and he’ll (according to some of the things he says that may have already been contradicted by other things he says) roll back welcome changes to health care market, increase the deficit, start a war with Iran, kill off nursing home care for seniors, destroy the promise of SS and Medicare, and make abortion something the government gets to arbitrate.

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“Typical corporate welfare.”

So how much was the NFL’s check from the government?

If you want to say the league should pay some tax, I won’t necessarily argue that point. But welfare is paid from the government to the recipient, and that isn’t happening here.

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We need to eliminate all corporate taxes. It’s an unfair system with tons of loopholes to begin with. Let them reinvest all their earnings or pay them out to the owners as divinends. However, those cuts should be offset by taxing dividends and capital gains at regular income rates. Why should Romney, or Anne Chambers Cox, pay a lower rate on their passsive income than I pay on what I actually have to work for?

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Scout: Just look at affirmative action.

Yeah, that “binders full of women thing” needs to stop.

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Adam — “Yeah, that “binders full of women thing” needs to stop.”

Three rings to rule them all, and in the bookshelf bind them.

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Steve-USA

Since you said yes on the Clinton deal, I have no reason not to believe you. I’ll take you for your word. My apoligies for insinuating otherwise.

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RW, stands: Who doesn’t have a fair shot? Please explain.

A fair shot at WHAT, exactly? Please explain.

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Cut the BS curious, you made the claim, back it up. Who doesn’t have a fair shot? Be specific.

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n: “When Israel starts WWIII, with MItt’s approval… The hoi polloi will be marched off to war. Just wait.”

You’re absolutely right, with one exception.

It’s not just going to be under Romney. Obama might slow the march to war somewhat, but it’s not clear how much he can, or really wants to.

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A fair shot is everyone having equal opportunity.

Republicans and conservatives like to say they support equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. So, prove it. What policies have you put in place or promoted that help with equal OPPORTUNITY?

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Even as the federal deficit has ballooned, U.S. corporations are paying lower tax bills than ever before, according to one measure.

That’s the takeaway from a new report by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities dissecting the tax structures of corporations, which CBPP Director Chuck Marr says are now paying taxes at “historical lows as a share of the [total] economy.”

Corporate Tax Revenues Nearing Historic Lows As A Percentage Of GDP, Report Says
Marr points to a basic discrepancy: While the U.S.’s top corporate tax rate of 35 percent is one of the highest in the world, the amount corporations actually end up forking over to the government is much lower, sometime as low as 4 percent. This is due to a dizzying number of deductions, write-offs, and other accounting tricks that allow corporations to legally reduce their tax burden.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/02/corporate-tax-revenues-ne_n_830361.html

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BYTME & KEEPS

Ok so I went to Obama site and Romney site (glad I didn’t eat breakfast)..I’m still not coming up with any more specifics…just goals and alledged accomplishments..

Both: Champion Small Business/Promise to Build a Stronger Middle Class/Getting Deficit and Debt Under Control/Reform Tax Code (I must be missing the specifics here…other than raising 80 billion a year from top 3% or whatever..when you divided 80 billion by 1.2 tillion deficit, you still have 93% left to cover)/Creating jobs for tomorrow per education (we seem to keep spending more on education with no results)…

I really don’t see any more specifics from either although I also think its Congress’ job to cover that…how is Romney going to create 12 million jobs? I dunno..How is BO going to address the deficit when his focus will only address 7-8% of problem…which won’t alleviate the demonization of the rich..

Also, why on earth do you toss insults my way relative to my intelligence? You realize, if not only from the presidential debates, that is an instinctual defense response…what exactly frightens you two mental giants?

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Stevie Ray:

Point 1) how is Romney going to create 12 million jobs? I dunno..
Point 2) How is BO going to address the deficit when his focus will only address 7-8% of problem

If you can’t see the difference between specifics on these two I am not sure how to help you get it.

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Also, why on earth do you toss insults my way relative to my intelligence? You realize, if not only from the presidential debates, that is an instinctual defense response…what exactly frightens you two mental giants?

Do show where I tossed an insult at you, relative or not.

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Unfortunately, most people don’t have these necessary apptitude leves. This is an inate human thing and cannot be changed. So, more and more jobs will go unfilled.

Unemployment for those with a bachelor’s degree is around 5%. For those with a masters degree, it’s 3.5%. For those with a PhD, it’s 2.5%. For those without a college degree, it’s north of 9%.

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I wonder how much in cumulative tax load the individual team owners; players; stadium personnel; team support personnel; and directly associated entities and individuals contribute to the treasury.

And I also wonder if sales of all the licensed (logo) wares are taxed and what revenue is generated from said sales.

And then juxtapose those figures with contributions by other 501(c)6 tax exempt entities, and then we might actually have a story (and a graph or chart, too).

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Stands, that child born into poverty has plenty of safety nets available and access to the same education system the rest of us do. Keep in mind you’re going to vote for one of those kids for president before you tell us again how he doesn’t have a fair shot.

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Stevie, perhaps you might do your own research instead of begging others to do it for you. You have read the CBO reports, bills, etc.? Right? Why do you continue to ask for it to be spoon fed to you?

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Paul- Oh, I understood very well your mind dwells upon the major issues facing the American voter, topics like ‘teleprompter’ and…. ‘teleprompter.’

Right. We need to be talking about the important things like Big Bird…

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Was listening to Boortz just a few minutes ago, (i know, i know — but i was bored and sleepy; Boortz is anything BUT boring); anyway the new repuglican faux outrage? the young lady who asked the question about pay inequity that Romney didn’t answer. Since he was o angry about it, i had to immediately google her name to see what all the fuss was about. As usual, nothing but Conned poutrage.

Boortz was his usual insulting self – calling her flat chested, pulling some of her past tweets and trying to make her out to be a slut — however his old azz didn’t understand what half the stuff she was tweeting meant, and I bet he’s hoping his audience doesn’t know it either.

Anywhoo that’s what’s happening in Nutsville USA — the alternate state inhabited by repugs.

PS; This is NOT a war on women though — they’re just saying these things about HER…

Conservative publication smears woman who asked debate question about equal pay

PSS – Boortz, with is male self, claims that there isn’t ANY gender inequality in pay — it’s all a liberal joke. There are a LOT of women laughing so he may be right. Yep, we’re laughing all the way to the polls.

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So Mitt’s son Tagg wants to take a swing at the President.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/on_being_a_liar.php?ref=fpblg

Tell ya what, Taggie. Take your best shot at me. I’ll even give you the first one for free. But you better knock me out with it.

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Global capitalism cannot hack it. It struggles more and more every day to shore itself up, to re-stabilize itself, but with each lunge it sets off new crises. If Marx were around today, how he would nod knowingly at the spectacle of it.

But of course, collapse never comes. Global capitalism as always merely uses its own crises as more fuel to regenerate itself anew.

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The NFL itself is not a business. The money they receive from the teams has already been taxed and is similar to a donation to a charity. The NFL engages in to activity that produces taxable income. Look up the definition of taxable income.

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Debbie, your link is acting strangely for me. It looks like a hyperlink, but it’s not clickable and the destination URL doesn’t pop up when I mouse over it.

Could you repost, please?

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adam- In addition, when the administration found out the facts, they corrected themselves to the American Public. Know what that’s called? TRANSPARENCY. Another promise kept for the President.

I would call it coming to the realization that your propoganda isn’t working. Continually repeating a lie for two weeks after the facts come out is not “transparency”.

Where’s Mr Transparency’s college transcripts?

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DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
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Listening to B cured your boredom and woke you up. That’s probably why most people listen to him. Out of boredom. Never understood why anyone would listen but I guess that must be it. Out of boredom.

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Oscar: “The NFL itself is not a business. The money they receive from the teams has already been taxed and is similar to a donation to a charity”

Well, there you have it.

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The NFL uses socialism .

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Stevie Ray: Forgiven.

And your analysis of the two “plans” is correct: neither has specifics. So you have to fall back on: what do we know about each person that will indicate how they’ll govern in a crisis and how will they govern with an opposition party that is looking to block their every move? I know the answers with Obama (good with crisis, bad with opposition party). With Romney, not positive. He might have been wonderful with the opposition in MA, but they were looking to work with him and could over-ride his vetoes. What about if the Democratic senate pulls a Republican trick and refuse to work with him at all? How will he handle being dissed all the time?

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Jay Bookman, I have a suggestion for your next post. To be intellectually honest and consistent with post you did last week, you could title it:

New jobless claims explode, now above long-term average
October 18th, 2012 by Jay

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DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman

October 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Was listening to Boortz just a few minutes ago, (Boortz was his usual insulting self – calling her flat chested, pulling some of her past tweets and trying to make her out to be a slut — however his old azz didn’t understand what half the stuff she was tweeting meant, and I bet he’s hoping his audience doesn’t know it either.
You may have the radio tuned to Boortz, but either you aren’t really listening OR you are a liar. I am listening to Boortz and heard exactly what he said about Ms. Fenton.

He said she was flat bellied, offered as a compliment, and read actual tweets from her now scrubbed Twitter account. The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally. He said she was attractive, but not too bright, based upon her writings.

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The NFL uses socialism .

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That is correct. Why is it that cons never complain about the socialism of governments building stadiums for private business (professional sports teams) to use. Sounds like a double standard to me.

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Mark in mid-town

October 18th, 2012
10:57 am

If you are thinking about holding your breath, you would be well-advised to go ahead and call 9-1-1.

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“Sounds like a double standard to me.”

It is, cons are never consistent in their beliefs.

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her.

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Oscar: Never understood why anyone would listen but I guess that must be it. Out of boredom.

Why else? I deal with a lot of numbers all day — sometimes they all start looking alike. Same goes for legalesse. I need something to keep me focused, awake, and in Boortz case, furious enough to stay awake.

StevieR: i’m one of his loyal listeners!! You try dealing with a bunch of boring numbers all day, you’d listen too!

Ahem: He said she was flat bellied, offered as a compliment,

Oh! o.k. — I guess I’m not used to him giving anyone a compliment, I thought he said flat chested and was being a pig — as usual.

……….and read actual tweets from her now scrubbed Twitter account. The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally. He said she was attractive, but not too bright, based upon her writings.

Isn’t that what I said?

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Candy Crowley(the lib) interrupted Romney 28 times and Obama only 8 times.

Have you considered that it’s the moderator’s JOB to cut off someone who’s talking past their allotted time? And that Romney kept arguing with her and acting like that hall monitor you hated in High School?

Whiner.

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“I’m no expert in tax law”. That’s painfully obvious.

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The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally.

Which is why tweeting about “hump day” means she should make less money than a man.
Stuff her back in that binder, cons.

Given Mr. Boortz’s bemoaning his lack of access to sluts in his youth, he should STFU. Guys who gleefully admit they’d “hit that” while complaining about the objects of their wishful hits are creepy. They need therapy, not talkie radio shows.

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“I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away, without our money of course! Then you could spend, spend, and spend some more.”

It’s my money too moocher… and you spent 8 years spending it like a drunk sailer…

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getalife — “I think the debate and binder comment, then the attacks on on woman asking a question will help women move to our President and you will see that in the polls.”

FWIW, I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.

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RB: don’t you think a year to do a simple survey is a bit ridiculous????

It is harder than you think to get time with a representative sample when you have no credentials to offer.

By the way, I don’t suppose you can date and time your original request and find that it may not actually be a year since you asked?

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They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.

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Joe: BTW, how’s Dudley?

Perfect…..

getalife: War on women?

Gads NO!! Not the GOP!! They LOVE women!! Why their acronym stands for : Get yOur Pregnant azz in the kitchen. And fix me a samwich!

Tom: That was supposed to be average citizens(undecided voters), not Code Pink or Occupy favs.

Just because you belong to an organization does NOT necessarily mean that you are NOT undecided.

I mean, come on — if Cheney could’ve NOT SEEN his friend wearing LOUD PINK COLORS while hunting and accidentally shoot him, then anything is possible.

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Romney aid: “No holding back in third debate”

Romney was pulling his lies? Ooooh, can we get a birth certificate or Kenyan binder?

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

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These debates are getting out of hand and should be toned down a bit. In the old days, thousands of years ago, some tribes would pick their leaders by letting them fight to the death. Fist fight seems like the next step in our debates.
Rocky Marciano would have made a great president.

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I guess he plans to tackle the Obama and hold him down and cut his hair…

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getalife: I think the debate and binder comment, then the attacks on on woman asking a question will help women move run, screaming and shouting, to our President and you will see that in the polls.

I had to a words or two to your comment. Sorry.

Joe: I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.

Word.

Aquagirl: Which is why tweeting about “hump day” means she should make less money than a man.
Stuff her back in that binder, cons.
Hiya Aquagirl!!

Since he didn’t give the total tweet string (like what someone said before her and if she responded to them or not), she could’ve been talking about WEDNESDAY. But, of course, dirty old Boortz mind went straight to his little pecker for the answer.

Given Mr. Boortz’s bemoaning his lack of access to sluts in his youth, he should STFU. Guys who gleefully admit they’d “hit that” while complaining about the objects of their wishful hits are creepy. They need therapy, not talkie radio shows.

Yeah, he’s the creepy uncle / grandfather that your mother tells you to NEVER sit in his lap or pull ANYTHING he tells you to pull.

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Ahem: They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.

So according to the conservatives who think She handed the debate to Obama, that must mean she wanted to go out with Romney?

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And now, you’re moment of zen:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6830834/mitt-romney-style-gangnam-style-parody

ROMNEY STYLE! Mitt Mitt Mitt…

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“FWIW, I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.”

I agree

The campaigns are battling for the women votes right now so it is really dumb to be attacking women. Perhaps boortz is trying to help our President.

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OSCAR,

I have no qualms with Candy…but you have to admit she bears significant resemblance to John Candy…

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Adam

October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
Ahem: They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.

So according to the conservatives who think She handed the debate to Obama, that must mean she wanted to go out with Romney?

Wouldn’t anybody, given the choices?

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The Binder comment is classic..todays headlines read “Candidates Focus on Women” seems nothing has changed in Washington after all..

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http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/

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Stevie: The other reason is to get the other guy to expose himself first…better results that way..

Yes, I do recognize your consistent attempts to use this “strategy” rather than attempt to have an adult conversation. You’re already prepared to dismiss anything. If you ask dumb questions as part of your strategy punkin, don’t whine when others point out how silly you are.

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Stevie: I have no qualms with Candy…but you have to admit she bears significant resemblance to John Candy…

Evidence of your ability to have “adult conversation”? how sad.

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Dyslexia: Candy is a sweetheart (should be: sweethearts are a candy)

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You did see that CNN reported that Obama spoke 4 minutes longer than Romney at the debate, right?

And you think Romney would have done better had he talked MORE? Figures.

Maybe he had more binders full of women that he wanted to share with us? Or maybe he wanted to ask again about the size of Obama’s pension fund and then imagine that part of it is invested in a Cayman Islands trust? Or maybe he wants to remind us again about some percentage of people that he doesn’t care about?

Be glad he got off the stage before he did more damage.

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Says the guy who just yesterday wanted to argue about whether or not 4 dead Americans qualifies as a terror attack instead of discussing why the POTUS fed us this BS story about a video for 2 weeks.

“No ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for THIS TERRIBLE ACT.” (emphasis mine)

Just so we’re clear, look that over and tell me he wasn’t talking about the Benghazi attack. Further, explain to me how thinking the video had something to do with the reason for a terrorist attack excludes calling it a terrorist attack?

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KEEPS

Adult conversations, of which you often show little understanding, is much different than a debate posture….I reckon that adults generally insult each others intelligence when disagreements presents themselves? You must be a popular guy eh? I do notice your consistency in stooping to defensive tactics when others don’t agree with you or otherwise leave you baffled…

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Breaking News…..

Under Comrade Obama’s WATCH…

Violent crime jumps 18 percent in 2011, first rise in nearly 20 years….
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/18/violent-crime-jumps-18-percent-in-2011-first-rise-in-nearly-20-years/#ixzz29fIwbSpl

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Or maybe he wanted to ask again about the size of Obama’s pension fund and then imagine that part of it is invested in a Cayman Islands trust?

I’ll take that one back, since it’s finally been fact-checked. The funny part is it reminds everyone that Romney has put most of his money in off-shore trusts to avoid taxes.

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Ahem – I have to disagree with you about Candy. I personally think getalife, Joe Hussein Mama and Candy would make a great threesome, (of course to talk politics only)!

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Ooooh, can we get a birth certificate or Kenyan binder?

I’ll give you a birth certificate and raise you a “Gay Married Obama” Jerome Corsi (birther — seen with Mitt’s campaign) and WND have come up with a new spin against Obama.

Obama is really GAY and married to Michelle who’s only married to him because she was too LAZY to find a real man!!

What will these fools think of next?

http://wonkette.com/486039/wnd-journalism-about-gay-obamas-arranged-marriage-to-lazy-michelle-not-at-all-racist

Here’s another one (from the mouth of the beast):

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2429604-WND-Jerome-Corsi-Obama-married-a-Pakistani-Man

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Pension Envy: Who Has More—Obama or Romney?

In one of the debate’s lighter moments, Obama countered, “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours so it doesn’t take as long. I don’t check it that often.”

But what about Romney?

It’s extensively documented that Romney is, well, a rich guy. He earned untold millions —though famously circumspect about releasing tax returns — while leading private equity giant Bain Capital and has a substantial retirement plan.

His Individual Retirement Account could be worth in the neighborhood of $87 million, as documented in an extensive report from the Washington Post .

But as for a strictly public pension? Zip, zero.

Romney only served one term as governor of the Bay State and did not take a salary, so he is eligible for nothing.

So while Romney appears headed for a happier retirement financially, he’ll be footing his own bill — unless, of course, he wins next month. In that case, his nest egg will be even that much bigger than Obama’s.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49450057

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(birther — seen with Mitt’s campaign)

This will get approximately 0.000001% of the play in the corporate media as we had with Bill Ayers having sat on a board with Obama and hosting a fundraiser for him.

And 0.000000000001% of that afforded to “Scary Colored Minister Who Said Gee Dee ‘Merka when Obama wasn’t around”-gate.

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Oh my gosh. I’m going to walk the puppy.

I don’t even want to imagine what that’s code for, over at Chez Ahem’s.

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Queen of Mean (great new name)

I love this: Or makes every dog in a 20-mile radius bark like they’re at a mailman convention

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Byteme – Nice come- back. So you want to speak of Big Bird, social issues and binders, instead of Acts of Terror, the economy, and jobs. That is why you are a liberal!

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USMC

I’d wait for rebuttal before peddling that particular number hard…per WH data kindly supplied by my close personal friend Taxpayer…past four years:

Medicare/SS spending up 27% each
Education/Social Services up 51%
Total income security (including housing assistance and food stamps) up 58%

To be fair all of these were on an unsustainable trajectory the prior 10 years and when you factor in recession, some of the increases can be justified….the demographics play a big role..

The big problem is we can’t afford these trends to continue…no candidate has or likely can stem the flow of deficit ceiling increases…of which drive our interest expense up an estimated 147% by 2017

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The Falcons are 6-0!!

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The Sons of Confederate
Veterans is also a tax
exempt organization.

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what RB from Gwinnett related

See, I told you there was somebody on this blog dumber than me.

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So you want to speak of Big Bird, social issues and binders, instead of Acts of Terror, the economy, and jobs. That is why you are a liberal!

considering that in the debate, it was ROMNEY who brought up Big Bird, ROMNEY who brought up binders, ROMNEY who tried to catch Obama on semantics (and failed miserably and looked stupid doing it)…

Again: it’s better Romney didn’t get more time to shoot his foot while it was stuck in his mouth.

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The Sons of Confederate
Veterans is also a tax
exempt organization.

You trying to change the subject?

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Jay

http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-comeback-2012-10

Now that is good news.

So let’s fast forward to a possible Romney inauguration.

There’s a parallel with Pres Obama and the Bush administration. Obama took over right at the time we experienced the culmination of years of Republican policies that led to an economic collapse. Democrats pointed that out and all we heard was ‘you’re just blaming Bush!”

So we then would have a Pres Romney taking over shortly after four years of Pres Obama’s efforts came to fruition. Which means the trends were well underway. In very positive ways, as the article showed.

Question is, will we hear Republicans say ‘well, it really did begin under Obama…”?

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Paul: Just trying to get people to think a little, just a little, about the nonsense they spew.

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mm:

Corporations don’t really pay taxes ………. they just pass the cost on as they do overhead, inventory, salaries or anything else.

People pay taxes.

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Jay

October 18th, 2012
11:36 am

http://www.businessinsider.com/consumer-comeback-2012-10
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You DID I trust notice who’s name is on the bottom left hand corner of those graphs and charts you linked didn’t you?

It’s amusing, (and REALLY scary). I’ve been reading the news all morning and came across Senator Coburn’s little expose’. I thought to myself, now why doesn’t Jay write about THAT? I click over here to see what insipid topic you had instead and lo and behold………

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Tom — “Joe Hussein Mama- Perhaps you and the other Hussein should consider Kenya, both of you would feel comfortable there!”

Why would I need to leave? You’re the one that’s all pizzy and complainy.

“Whiner deluxe!”

Well thanks for identifying yourself to us! (laughing)

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KEN

The hollywood thing is a gas….the accounting for movie production is as much a ruse as…well a not-for-profit NFL…

I wonder how many of the liberal actors, directors and producers shield income from taxes in same fashion as romney et al…they are not running for president of course but it’d be interesting to see how deep the hypocrisy runs in LALA land..

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Why did Candy Crowley
have a transcript of
President Obama’s Rose
Garden speech with her?

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FRED

The dollar the consumer spends is taxed…but could be the last of 10 or more additional taxes levied on that same dollar from raw materials, to suppliers, to manufacturers, to sales outlets and so on…

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Fred:

“Corporations don’t make profits and pay dividends either do they?”

Of course they do. And those come out AFTER they have passed the tax costs on to the public.

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Scout

Hope the back’s feeling better.

I know they vary greatly in skill, but have you thought of a chiropractor? Or some really good muscle relaxants?

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Call the WHHAAAAAAAmbulance for Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)! It must have been an invisible teleprompter that only Obama could see!

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Tom — “Ahem – I have to disagree with you about Candy. I personally think getalife, Joe Hussein Mama and Candy would make a great threesome, (of course to talk politics only)!”

Dude, no one cares what kind of pr0n you like.

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4 Rmoney commercials every 15 min. The last four -

-”Obama’s not protecting your job (with regulation??)
the very next minute –
-”I will UNLEASH the ‘merkan economy (with de-regulation huh? wtf?)
the very next one -
-”I do have empathy. I care. MY healthcare plan is proof”
and very next damn minute –
-”On DAY 1 I’ll repeal Obamacare!”

I see his strategy – buy all the airtime, and just say anything.
Lie your ass off, contradict yourself shamelessly.
He can eventually use up all the words in the language.
Its brilliant.

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Paul, one last time…

Everybody on the planet including the POTUS is calling it a terrorist attack, but it you and Jay want to call it something else SO YOU CAN AVOID TELLING US WHY THE POTUS BLAMED IT ON A VIDEO NOBODY HAS SEEN, you go right ahead. Unless you want to address the real issue here, don’t bother replying.

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“Welfare spending has grown substantially over the past four years, reaching $746 billion in 2011 — or more than Social Security, basic defense spending or any other single chunk of the federal government— according to a new memo by the Congressional Research Service.”

Read more: Welfare spending jumps 32% in four years – Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/welfare-spending-jumps-32-percent-four-years/#ixzz29fSSb5kx

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The “Big Bird” Crowd:

“President Barack Obama is in New Hampshire today for a campaign event. According to the White House pool report, after he arrived at the airport in Manchester this morning, President Obama stopped to shake hands with “a couple dozen supporters” on a rope line. The crowd at the airport included two toddlers holding American flags who were greeted by the president, but apparently “looked a bit disinterested.”

“I do great with the 2-3 year old crowd,” President Obama joked.

His remark reportedly earned laughs from the people on the rope line. Perhaps President Obama’s desire to appeal to the nursery school set explains his campaign’s focus on Big Bird in recent weeks.”

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Fred:

My, my ……….. chill out. You’re going to have a stroke.

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R. Convert — “See, I told you there was somebody on this blog dumber than me.”

Don’t lose hope, Bubba. We still got Rags and BOW postin’ here.

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I’m fairly certain there would never be any danger of finding granny, aquagirl, getaclue, mm, or any of the other regular lib ladies on here in any binder of qualified applicants.

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Scout

Must have. Was scanning thru the comments yesterday and thought is was you who said they wrenched their back.

That is an experience I would not wish on anybody.

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Paul
Recon wrenched his back.

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS 5) — “The head (Senator Feinstein) of the U.S. Senate’s Intelligence Committee said Wednesday that it appeared an intelligence mistake along with inadequate security were to blame for the Sept. 11 terrorist attack on the American Embassy in Benghazi, Libya that claimed the lives of Ambassador Chris Stevens, a Bay Area native, and three others.

“I can tell you this, I think we do know what happened now. There’s no question but THAT IT WAS A TERRORIST ATTACK (emphasis added), there is no question but that the security was inadequate and I think that there is no question that we need to work on our intelligence,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) during an exclusive interview with CBS 5.”

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/10/17/feinstein-intelligence-flaw-lax-security-to-blame-for-libyan-terror-attack/

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JAY BOOKMAN: “The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/

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WE REPORT ………… YOU DECIDE.

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Adam, unlike many others, I don’t care what he called it or when, I want to know why he fed the BS about the video to the people for 2 weeks when he knew the attack had nothing to do with it.

What is your opinion of why he would do that?

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Paul:

I hear you !

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Paul

I think it was Recon (Del) who mentioned that he was having problems with his back.

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RB from Gwinnett

“SO YOU CAN AVOID TELLING US WHY THE POTUS BLAMED IT ON A VIDEO NOBODY HAS SEEN”

Is the video invisible? Blacked out? Just a rumor? ’cause nobody’s seen it?

Yes, RB from Gwinnett, good to see you’re back to doing what you do best.

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Democrats enacted $1.803 billion for embassy security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2010, when they still controlled the Senate and House. After Republicans took control of the House and picked up six Senate seats, Congress reduced the enacted budget to $1.616 billion in fiscal 2011, and to $1.537 billion for 2012.

The administration requested $1.801 billion for security, construction and maintenance for fiscal 2012; House Republicans countered with a proposal to cut spending to $1.425 billion. The House agreed to increase it to $1.537 billion after negotiations with the Senate.

The administration requested $1.654 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program for fiscal 2012. House Republicans proposed funding the program at $1.557 billion. Congress eventually enacted $1.591 billion after the Senate weighed in.

For fiscal 2013, the administration requested $2.15 billion in funding for the worldwide security protection program, a larger increase from the previous year. The House countered with a proposal to increase the program to $1.934 billion.

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RB: I want to know why he fed the BS about the video to the people for 2 weeks when he knew the attack had nothing to do with it.

Why do you assume he knew before two weeks?

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barking frog

Thanks. Here’s wishing Recon well, then -

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They BOTH suck

October 18th, 2012
12:22 pm

Paul

I think it was Recon (Del) who mentioned that he was having problems with his back.
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It’s probably strained from him carrying the mail for all the rich folks he envies and yet fawns endlessly towards.

If only one were allowed the freedom to use the word lickspittle………..

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You are a lazy commentator who is a reliable repeater of the DNC talking points. In 1966, LBJ was president and Senate was controlled by Democrats 64-36 and the House 248-187. By the way, the AFL-CIO is tax exempt under code section 501(c)(5) and that evil Chamber of Commerce is tax exempt under code section 501(c)(6).
And to prove my point about your laziness, your comment “If Georgia tax law is like that of many states, the NFL and its employees would be exempted from paying the tax that everyone else must pay to subsidize stadiums built for a highly profitable industry,” you could have found out the answer to that one with minimum research.

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Are people ever going to get around to discussing the difference between an act of terror, a terrorist attack, an attack by terrorists, a military attack by terrorists, a terror attack by military?

Seems to me they base their… analysis… solely on ‘the groups a group we have labeled a terrorist group; therefore, anything they do is a terrorist attack.

So if Hezbollah joins forces with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards in conducting classical military operations against Israel, we’re going to hear how Israel is responding to military and terror attacks. In the same battle.

Ah yes, simplicity does have a certain attractiveness for some -

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Fred:

This is a debate site. Don’t get so personal …………. we have different opinions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syV2LkGpQB0

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Paul — “Here’s wishing Recon well, then -”

We have confirmation? Man down?

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Obama DOES Have Investments In Cayman Islands Trust…

His Illinois pension — over which he has no control — has an investment that includes a cayman trust. Not quite the same as hiding your money off-shore to avoid paying taxes, is it numbers guy?

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Joe Hussein Mama:

“Paul — “Here’s wishing Recon well, then -”

We have confirmation? Man down?”

Noooooooooo …………………………………….. “Corpsman Up !”

Or if you’re President Obama ……….. Corpseman Up !

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ByteMe – Got ilk? :

Close enough for government work !

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ByteMe… sounds to me like a “blind trust” lack of control…but not even one where you have the ability to set the rules for the trustee.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 18th, 2012
8:41 am
This has been going on for decades…long before the Republicans took over the reigns.

Oh the blame state democrats card….. how trite.
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Why not the “Blame the fokin politicians” card?

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RB — “If you can’t answer the question, don’t.”

I can and I did. If you don’t like my reply, too bad.

If you find my posts so upsetting to read, then I suggest you scroll right on past when you see my name on the left-hand side of the page. Because short of Jay kicking me off, I’m not stopping any time soon.

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DOMA struck down by 2d Ct. Court of Appeals.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ny-appeals-court-nixes-defense-marriage-act

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TBG, sorry you missed the irony. Trying “blame Bush”…. of course most of these things have been in process for years, just like the deficit. The point is that when it comes to Obama, there was “no one” before him, but when it comes to others like state republicans, there is always an excuse.

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Romney’s new jobs math doesn’t add up, studies he cites don’t apply and one of his own economic advisers admits it:

Mitt Romney’s ‘new math’ for jobs plan doesn’t add up

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/mitt-romneys-new-math-for-jobs-plan-doesnt-add-up/2012/10/15/fd1d1e1c-170f-11e2-a55c-39408fbe6a4b_blog.html?hpid=z3

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I wrenched my back once. A double end box, it was…

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“DOMA struck down by 2d Ct. Court of Appeals.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ny-appeals-court-nixes-defense-marriage-act”

Which is exactly why we need Romney in more than ever so he can appoint some decent Supreme Court justices to uphold DOMA !

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0311 — “Which is exactly why we need Romney in more than ever so he can appoint some decent Supreme Court justices to uphold DOMA !”

I think it’s time for marriage to stand up for itself and quit begging for gubmint help.

If marriage can’t defend itself, then it should GTFO of its parents’ basement and get a friggin’ JOB.

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barking frog

I’d have to watch that part of the debate again to know for sure. I seem to recall she was looking at papers on her desk, If that’s the case, it’s reasonable that an observer would ask to see what she was referencing.

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Moderate, using England’s EPL isn’t a great judge of sports in the US. How their system works of transfers and paying for players isn’t compatable.

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Adam

October 18th, 2012
9:12 am
In addition, when the administration found out the facts, they corrected themselves to the American Public. Know what that’s called? TRANSPARENCY. Another promise kept for the President.
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TRANSLATION: In the words of John Coffey from the Green Mile “Why, theys angels like up in heaven.”

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barking frog

I wonder if it was more Obama’s team had really, really researched this (not just relied on news reports like Team Romney might have) and was just waiting for a moment to exploit.

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Let’s not get sidetracked by the issues and the debates. Forget the party affiliation. If a candidate wants to win in a landslide then that candidate needs to adopt this simple platform:

1. Any law passed by congress will apply to the members of congress as it does to United States citizens.

2. There will be no pension or retirement pay for elected members of the federal government or their appointments.

3. No tax rate for an individual citizen or corporation can be higher than the lowest tax rate of any member of congress.

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Simple man, why would congress want to be covered by Obamacare, I don’t blame them for exempting themselves, they know whats in it.

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okay, sometimes you just gotta shake your head.

Identifying herself only as Donna, she called in to a Fargo-area radio station, Y94 Playhouse, and informed the hosts that she had been in three car accidents involving deer — all of them taking place shortly after she saw a deer crossing sign.

“It seems to me that it’s so irresponsible of us to allow these deer crossings to be in an area where these deer are so likely to be struck by oncoming traffic,” she said. “Wouldn’t you agree?”

I bet she also blames Obama for high gas prices.

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“AL GORE’S NEWSPAPER ENDORSES ROMNEY: “To say this endorsement by The Tennessean is an eyebrow raiser is an understatement. This is the same newspaper where former Vice President Al Gore got his start in journalism, that endorsed Obama in 2008. Of course, the paper endorsed Gore in 2000. In 2004, the paper endorsed Democrat John Kerry over President Bush. Also, Middle Tennessee is a traditional Democratic stronghold.”

Oh…too funny.

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tom,

Read the NYTimes article to get informed.

romney ahead in gallup will get people to vote but some of the other polls have it about even.

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But, of course!

http://www.washingtonguardian.com/battery-makers-beltway-power-play

“CULTURE OF CORRUPTION: As it struggled, A123 showered Democrats with donations, hired pricey lobbyist.”

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“I am I, Don Quixote, the Lord of LaMancha” and had an image of a guy on horseback tilting at windmills -

Check out the big brains on Paul!! A Man Of LaMancha reference AND a dang good one at that!! Paul, I bet you’d love to go with me to a nice opera wouldn’t you? The next time you get to the Dirty South — you can I could probably go to the Cobb Energy Center and see what they have playing!

RB From the Trailer Park: I’m fairly certain there would never be any danger of finding granny, aquagirl, getaclue, mm, or any of the other regular lib ladies on here in any binder of qualified applicants.”

Just keep on digging that hole for your party deeper RB, just keep-a digging.

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“Ann Romney: No More Campaigns If We Lose”

They hate “you people”

They will be gone in a couple of weeks.

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There are some problems with this binder,” complains Ruth from New Hampshire. “First, there are no women in it.

http://digitallife.today.com/_news/2012/10/18/14533986-binders-full-of-funny-romney-meme-spurs-joke-amazon-reviews#comments

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Unusual when so many
can get married they are
opting to not get married.
That’s one reason i think
same sex marriage is a
civil rights issue. Everyone
should have the choice to
legally form a relationship
or no one should.

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Joe Hussein Mama

October 18th, 2012
1:29 pm

T. Heyward — “Out of The Three merchant ship captains that I have known , two would rather do business with Somalian Pirates than the New York Port Authority.”

Nothing stopping them from doing so, then.

“It’s cheaper, much more straight-forward, and you can smoke and drink big gulps.”

You’re aware the the Big Gulp problem is confined only to New York and that the Port Authority had nothing to do with it, aren’t you?

“NIKE actually has to ship sneakers into the ports of NY and NJ by left foot only……and vice versus on different days.It just isn’t possible to fight the corruption otherwise. NIKE doesn’t have that problem in Abbas ).”

If they have a problem with corruption, then they have a problem with corruption. If they have a problem with government, then they have a problem with government. Please try to distinguish between the two.

“The other Merchant ship Captain was permantly dis-abled by the NYPD in a “stop-n-frisk” action that went bad.”

Sounds like he should consider West Coast ports and running Asia routes instead.
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I’m just saying……………………………………………………………….
Watu wenye sura mbili, unao wasimulia
Si watu ni makubeli, wako tayari kuua
Tukae nao kwa mbali, roho wasije zitoa
Watu wasio murua, ni maadui wa kweli.
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Know how many hogs your own tribe has ,
before shooting asperations or spears……….at the other.
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Also———–Natowa kitandawili
Free your mind.
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kuviwasha vilopowa. 2012
Freedom and Liberty for the man called Ron Paul as his spirit pertuates.2012

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Sad to see women support a man that is against equal pay for women.

mitt could not even answer to this fact in the debate.

Not a leader for the 21st century.

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Queen of Mean,

Why not utilize blood transfusions? Worked wonders for Lance Armstrong..

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Remember gallup has mitt up by 7 then watch them correct right before the election like last time for credibility.

I have seen this game before.

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DannyX

October 18th, 2012
9:41 am
“More of a guy thing instead of a political thing.”

Wrong. Republicans are supposed to be the party of family values.
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What office does he hold?
What committee does he head up?
Are you saying that ALL republicans MUST be EXACTLY the same?
How about ALL democrats?

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getalife — “Remember gallup has mitt up by 7 then watch them correct right before the election like last time for credibility.”

Funny how fast the cons decided that the polls weren’t “skewed” any more, isn’t it?

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DannyX

October 18th, 2012
9:44 am
“I heard those fake 1000 pound bobmbs can be a real bear to detonate.”

When are Republicans going to start with their next wacky conspiracy theory? How a bout it guys?

Was the government faking this attack to win the election.
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They don’t have to, YOU just did.

And you know what, it sounds kinda dumb.

YOU should stop starting DUMB conspiracy theories.

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I do! Hence the quotation marks. I thought I’d try and balance out the Salon, Rolling Stone and HuffPo quotes/links. Makes for a level playing field on opinion.

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“It will show if the Right is, as they say, only about defending marriage, or if their real agenda is to deny protections to same-sex couples.”

Any two people of any persuasion can have wills, powers of attorney (medical/legal/financial), etc. that will allow them those protections. The sanctity of one man/one woman should be protected. If the marriage of two people of the same sex is eventually upheld by the Surpeme Court then there is no “legal basis” to deny anything else including three people.

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Joe Hussein Mama

” Same everything as marriage, different noun.”

No, it’s not. Some states, some counties and the Federal Government treat them as different. In addition, there are still plenty of employers who won’t treat a civil union the same way.”

We’ve had extensive discussions on this. I think I’ve been pretty consistent in saying laws would be updated to correct the situations to which you refer.

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No one really cares what the polls say.

The one on Nov.6 is the only one that matters.

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A woman’s place is in a binder, dontcha know.

I like big binders, and I cannot lie!

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baaaaaaaaaah binders baaaaaaaaaaah binders baaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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Paul — “We’ve had extensive discussions on this. I think I’ve been pretty consistent in saying laws would be updated to correct the situations to which you refer.”

While I appreciate your position, I’m regretfully less confident than you are about that.

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71 % OF VOTERS FAVOR VOTER ID
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/17/71-percent-voters-favor-voter-ID

Interesting article for the Demwits & Left-Wingnuts! (isn’t that redundant?)

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Aquagirl — “I like big binders, and I cannot lie!”

LMAO

I’mma keep my wife in a binder so’s she doesn’t get all wrinkly.

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“No, it’s not. Some states, some counties and the Federal Government treat them as different. In addition, there are still plenty of employers who won’t treat a civil union the same way.”

And “separate but equal” has already been shown not to work.

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Joe Hussein Mama

Be right back.

Just spotted a windmill….

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Joe,

That is why I wait to see the last poll right before the election.

They are usually right after they correct for credibility.

Pretty reliable.

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Since voter turnout is all that matters, Obama seems to be in trouble at least by Ohio estimates…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/voter-turnout-model-predicts-big-trouble-for-obama-in-ohio/

Some are also projecting that Obama will need record turnout to win…who knows if prediction of turnout is remotely credible but it’s the only one I can find…

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Here’s some reporting(from CNN of all places) that pretty much cancels out the elation you lib-tards had over the fake U3 job numbers.

“Along with the official unemployment rate, the Department of Labor also calculates something called the employment-population ratio, which measures the percent of the U.S. adult population that has a job.
The rate currently stands at 58.7%. While it jumps around slightly from month to month, it has essentially been stuck there for three years — close to the lowest level since the 1980s.
That paints a much bleaker picture of the job market than the unemployment rate, which has fallen considerably in the last year. “

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