Did you know that the NFL is a tax-exempt nonprofit?
Once in a while, I run across something that I did not know and it leaves me flabbergasted.
For example, I did not know that the National Football League, the colossus of professional sports, is classified as a non-profit — a tax-free non-profit, to be more specific. That’s right: The NFL has its own exemption, written into federal law, that makes it exempt from federal corporate taxes.
IT'S GOOD! ... to be a tax-exempt nonprofit
The Professional Golf Association and the National Hockey League, among others, enjoy a similar exemption although in their cases, it is not an exemption specifically written into the law.
As described in Waste Book 2012 — compiled by the staff of U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn, a conservative Republican from Oklahoma:
In 2010, the registered NFL nonprofit alone received $184 million from its 32 member teams. It holds over $1 billion in assets. Together with its subsidiaries and teams – many of which are for-profit, taxed entities – the NFL generates an estimated $9 billion annually. Each of its teams are among the top 50 most expensive sports teams in the world, ranking alongside the world’s famous soccer teams. Almost half of professional football teams are valued at over $1 billion….
League commissioners and officials benefit from the nonprofit status of their organizations. Roger Goodell, commissioner of the NFL, reported $11.6 million in salary and perks in 2010 alone. Goodell’s salary will reportedly reach $20 million in 2019. Steve Bornstein, the executive vice president of media, made $12.2 million in 2010. Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue earned $8.5 million from the league in 2010. The league paid five other officials a total of $19.2 million in just one year. In comparison, the next highest salary of a traditional nonprofit CEO is $3.4 million.
The NFL’s exemption stems from a 1966 law, passed at the time of the merger with the old American Football League, specifically allowing “professional football leagues” to enjoy 501(c)(6) status as tax-exempt trade organizations. Other leagues have piggy-backed on that legislation to claim that status themselves.
Major League Baseball also used to enjoy the same tax-exempt protection, but in 2007 it chose to surrender that status in part because as the salary information above illustrates, tax-exempt, non-profit status requires you to report the salaries of your top executives. MLB decided that protecting that information from the public was more important than escaping taxes.
As the Coburn report points out, “state and local governments usually exempt these organizations from state income and sales tax as well….” As the Indiana Business Journal reported, that proved to be a nice little perk when the Super Bowl was held in Indianapolis this year, because “hotels and restaurants … won’t be taxing National Football League employees. They’re exempt from paying, according to an Indiana Department of Revenue directive. The NFL is using its tax-exempt status as a 501(c)(6) to avoid paying the taxes, in addition to fuel, auto rental and admissions taxes.”
In Atlanta’s case, a hotel-motel tax was used to build the Georgia Dome and would also be used to help finance the proposed new open-air stadium demanded by the Falcons. If Georgia tax law is like that of many states, the NFL and its employees would be exempted from paying the tax that everyone else must pay to subsidize stadiums built for a highly profitable industry.
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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
10:28 am
BYTME & KEEPS
Ok so I went to Obama site and Romney site (glad I didn’t eat breakfast)..I’m still not coming up with any more specifics…just goals and alledged accomplishments..
Both: Champion Small Business/Promise to Build a Stronger Middle Class/Getting Deficit and Debt Under Control/Reform Tax Code (I must be missing the specifics here…other than raising 80 billion a year from top 3% or whatever..when you divided 80 billion by 1.2 tillion deficit, you still have 93% left to cover)/Creating jobs for tomorrow per education (we seem to keep spending more on education with no results)…
I really don’t see any more specifics from either although I also think its Congress’ job to cover that…how is Romney going to create 12 million jobs? I dunno..How is BO going to address the deficit when his focus will only address 7-8% of problem…which won’t alleviate the demonization of the rich..
Also, why on earth do you toss insults my way relative to my intelligence? You realize, if not only from the presidential debates, that is an instinctual defense response…what exactly frightens you two mental giants?
indigo
October 18th, 2012
10:30 am
Here’s – 9:58 “demand for talent and current supply”
This problem is far more serious than most people realize.
More and more of today’s jobs are requiring apptitudes in science and math. Unfortunately, most people don’t have these necessary apptitude leves. This is an inate human thing and cannot be changed. So, more and more jobs will go unfilled.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
10:32 am
Stevie Ray:
Point 1) how is Romney going to create 12 million jobs? I dunno..
Point 2) How is BO going to address the deficit when his focus will only address 7-8% of problem
If you can’t see the difference between specifics on these two I am not sure how to help you get it.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
10:32 am
LIZ
You are spot on about the business deductions..problem is that our interests are completely subordinated to corporations and other special interest that provide almost all the cash our elected officials spend 30% of their time collecting…
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
10:32 am
Also, why on earth do you toss insults my way relative to my intelligence? You realize, if not only from the presidential debates, that is an instinctual defense response…what exactly frightens you two mental giants?
Do show where I tossed an insult at you, relative or not.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
10:33 am
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 18th, 2012
9:39 am
The last line made me laugh. Thanks.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
10:36 am
Unfortunately, most people don’t have these necessary apptitude leves. This is an inate human thing and cannot be changed. So, more and more jobs will go unfilled.
Unemployment for those with a bachelor’s degree is around 5%. For those with a masters degree, it’s 3.5%. For those with a PhD, it’s 2.5%. For those without a college degree, it’s north of 9%.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
10:38 am
For the students who complain they can’t find a job right out of school: you should have gotten a different degree… or none at all and saved the money to go to a trade school.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
10:39 am
I wonder how much in cumulative tax load the individual team owners; players; stadium personnel; team support personnel; and directly associated entities and individuals contribute to the treasury.
And I also wonder if sales of all the licensed (logo) wares are taxed and what revenue is generated from said sales.
And then juxtapose those figures with contributions by other 501(c)6 tax exempt entities, and then we might actually have a story (and a graph or chart, too).
AmericaShrugged
October 18th, 2012
10:39 am
Stevie – Fact checker dissed Romney on the 12 million jobs claim. Not because he couldn’t do it but because some entity like the labor department predited 12 million new jobs will be created the next four years no matter who wins the election!
RB from Gwinnett
October 18th, 2012
10:42 am
Stands, that child born into poverty has plenty of safety nets available and access to the same education system the rest of us do. Keep in mind you’re going to vote for one of those kids for president before you tell us again how he doesn’t have a fair shot.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
10:42 am
ADAM,
I can’t disagree with your rebuttal…I could have provided a better debate point to be sure.
I’m trying to point out that the odds of either plan being pulled off and accomplishing any meaningful improvements for us are slim to none.
So my point here is that BO’s primary objective of raising an additional 80 billion a year to reduce deficit by less than 10% is real? For that to even be possible he would need economic growth that is unrealistic and he would have to actually produce the spending cuts that were already on the table before he hit the scene..if he actually gets growth and cuts he puts out (not remotely likely) there, our interest spending alone will increase by 147% between now and 2017…
Romney’s claim of 12 million jobs is equally absurd as many of those jobs are already projected but again, the odds of them happening or the WH having any real impact are slim to none as well…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
10:42 am
Stevie, perhaps you might do your own research instead of begging others to do it for you. You have read the CBO reports, bills, etc.? Right? Why do you continue to ask for it to be spoon fed to you?
Georgia
October 18th, 2012
10:43 am
Okay, now I’m mad at Jay. We finally get a 6 and 0 team and Jay has to sheet on it. So what? They don’t pay taxes. Nobody but the little people pays taxes. Don’t you remember that horrid witch in New York, leona helmsley, the queen of mean? Come on. Us little swarthy tax payers only have football to help us hang on, (and of course that frozen concoction from the blender).
JKL2
October 18th, 2012
10:43 am
Paul- Oh, I understood very well your mind dwells upon the major issues facing the American voter, topics like ‘teleprompter’ and…. ‘teleprompter.’
Right. We need to be talking about the important things like Big Bird…
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
10:45 am
Number has aked Romney about which regulations he will cut.
I suspect most of them are environmental regulations and safety regulations. Coal companies and other toxic providers will love that.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Was listening to Boortz just a few minutes ago, (i know, i know — but i was bored and sleepy; Boortz is anything BUT boring); anyway the new repuglican faux outrage? the young lady who asked the question about pay inequity that Romney didn’t answer. Since he was o angry about it, i had to immediately google her name to see what all the fuss was about. As usual, nothing but Conned poutrage.
Boortz was his usual insulting self – calling her flat chested, pulling some of her past tweets and trying to make her out to be a slut — however his old azz didn’t understand what half the stuff she was tweeting meant, and I bet he’s hoping his audience doesn’t know it either.
Anywhoo that’s what’s happening in Nutsville USA — the alternate state inhabited by repugs.
PS; This is NOT a war on women though — they’re just saying these things about HER…
Conservative publication smears woman who asked debate question about equal pay
PSS – Boortz, with is male self, claims that there isn’t ANY gender inequality in pay — it’s all a liberal joke. There are a LOT of women laughing so he may be right. Yep, we’re laughing all the way to the polls.
RB from Gwinnett
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
Adam, payroll is up to about 190 people now and making some moves for further expansion. But if it makes you feel special to slam the people doing the hiring, you go right ahead.
And don’t you think a year to do a simple survey is a bit ridiculous????
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
So Mitt’s son Tagg wants to take a swing at the President.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/10/on_being_a_liar.php?ref=fpblg
Tell ya what, Taggie. Take your best shot at me. I’ll even give you the first one for free. But you better knock me out with it.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
Since we are talking about tax breaks…remember Solyndra?
Solyndra presses for bankruptcy plan OK over US objection
WILMINGTON, Del, Oct 17 (Reuters) – Failed solar panel maker Solyndra pressed a federal judge on Wednesday to approve its plan to end its politically charged bankruptcy over objections by the U.S. government, which argued the plan was being used by investors to dodge taxes.
Critics say government involvement in the company has cost taxpayers twice: for a $528 million government loan, and for tax breaks potentially worth $340 million that will go to venture capitalists.…
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/17/solyndra-plan-idUSL1E8LHNS320121017?feedType=RSS&feedName=mergersNews&rpc=22
Welcome to the Occupation
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
Global capitalism cannot hack it. It struggles more and more every day to shore itself up, to re-stabilize itself, but with each lunge it sets off new crises. If Marx were around today, how he would nod knowingly at the spectacle of it.
But of course, collapse never comes. Global capitalism as always merely uses its own crises as more fuel to regenerate itself anew.
JKL2
October 18th, 2012
10:47 am
adam- You can back that up with facts, I assume.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/05/Breitbart-Debate-Teleprompter-Video-Featured-On-Greta
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
10:48 am
The NFL itself is not a business. The money they receive from the teams has already been taxed and is similar to a donation to a charity. The NFL engages in to activity that produces taxable income. Look up the definition of taxable income.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
10:50 am
BYTEME
Of course you didn’t toss insults and that’s my bad…forgive me for tossing you in the same bucket as KEEPS…
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
10:50 am
Debbie, your link is acting strangely for me. It looks like a hyperlink, but it’s not clickable and the destination URL doesn’t pop up when I mouse over it.
Could you repost, please?
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
10:50 am
@
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
October 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Do you even remotely think that a member of Code Pink could be seriously considered as an undecided voter?
JKL2
October 18th, 2012
10:50 am
adam- In addition, when the administration found out the facts, they corrected themselves to the American Public. Know what that’s called? TRANSPARENCY. Another promise kept for the President.
I would call it coming to the realization that your propoganda isn’t working. Continually repeating a lie for two weeks after the facts come out is not “transparency”.
Where’s Mr Transparency’s college transcripts?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
Keep: Why do you continue to ask for it to be spoon fed to you?
I thin it has something to do with reading comprehension, inability to understand basic math, a few advanced math classics, using his fingers to count to 10 (no further), and not learning all his ABC’s.
But that’s just my opinion………….
(Sorry Stevie – I couldn’t resist – I guess for today, I’ll change my name to Queen Of Mean”)
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
10:51 am
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
___
Listening to B cured your boredom and woke you up. That’s probably why most people listen to him. Out of boredom. Never understood why anyone would listen but I guess that must be it. Out of boredom.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
10:52 am
JKL — “Where’s Mr Transparency’s college transcripts?”
Probably the same place mine are; in his alma mater’s registrar archives.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 18th, 2012
10:52 am
Oscar: “The NFL itself is not a business. The money they receive from the teams has already been taxed and is similar to a donation to a charity”
Well, there you have it.
curious
October 18th, 2012
10:54 am
We know they have WMDs
Great job, Brownie
I support a woman’s right to chose.
I’ll eliminate loopholes, so the rich won’t pay less.
I’m not concerned with the 47%.
on and on.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
10:55 am
The NFL uses socialism .
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
10:55 am
DDR
Wow..you and Limberger? I can’t even stand him…I lump Hannity, John Gibson, BIG ED and Thom Hartman all in the same boat..
The commanding audience of these shows confirms we live in a Jerry Springer world…
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
10:56 am
Stevie Ray: Forgiven.
And your analysis of the two “plans” is correct: neither has specifics. So you have to fall back on: what do we know about each person that will indicate how they’ll govern in a crisis and how will they govern with an opposition party that is looking to block their every move? I know the answers with Obama (good with crisis, bad with opposition party). With Romney, not positive. He might have been wonderful with the opposition in MA, but they were looking to work with him and could over-ride his vetoes. What about if the Democratic senate pulls a Republican trick and refuse to work with him at all? How will he handle being dissed all the time?
Rightwing Troll
October 18th, 2012
10:57 am
The resident wingnuts here can’t weigh in on this until they know where President Obama stands on it…
Mark in mid-town
October 18th, 2012
10:57 am
Jay Bookman, I have a suggestion for your next post. To be intellectually honest and consistent with post you did last week, you could title it:
New jobless claims explode, now above long-term average
October 18th, 2012 by Jay
Rightwing Troll
October 18th, 2012
10:58 am
“What about if the Democratic senate pulls a Republican trick and refuse to work with him at all? ”
I promise you there will be plenty of that.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
10:58 am
DebbieDoRight – A Do Right Woman
October 18th, 2012
10:46 am
Was listening to Boortz just a few minutes ago, (Boortz was his usual insulting self – calling her flat chested, pulling some of her past tweets and trying to make her out to be a slut — however his old azz didn’t understand what half the stuff she was tweeting meant, and I bet he’s hoping his audience doesn’t know it either.
You may have the radio tuned to Boortz, but either you aren’t really listening OR you are a liar. I am listening to Boortz and heard exactly what he said about Ms. Fenton.
He said she was flat bellied, offered as a compliment, and read actual tweets from her now scrubbed Twitter account. The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally. He said she was attractive, but not too bright, based upon her writings.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 18th, 2012
10:58 am
Sorry Joe! Here you go:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/17/conservative-publication-smears-young-woman-who-asked-debate-question/
Ahem – Yes.
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
10:58 am
The NFL uses socialism .
———
That is correct. Why is it that cons never complain about the socialism of governments building stadiums for private business (professional sports teams) to use. Sounds like a double standard to me.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
10:58 am
“Fact checker dissed Romney on the 12 million jobs claim. Not because he couldn’t do it but because some entity like the labor department predited 12 million new jobs will be created the next four years no matter who wins the election!”
True. Tax cuts and no regulation is a failed ideology not a plan.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:00 am
Mark in mid-town
October 18th, 2012
10:57 am
If you are thinking about holding your breath, you would be well-advised to go ahead and call 9-1-1.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
11:00 am
D. DoRight — “Sorry Joe! Here you go”
Thank you, ma’am!
BTW, how’s Dudley?
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:00 am
“Sounds like a double standard to me.”
It is, cons are never consistent in their beliefs.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:02 am
ahem,
Why is he attacking he?.
War on women?
Yes.
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:03 am
her.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 18th, 2012
11:03 am
That was supposed to be average citizens(undecided voters), not Code Pink or Occupy favs. That was not the face of America. Candy Crowley(the lib) interrupted Romney 28 times and Obama only 8 times. She catered to Obama, as CNN usually does. Would like to have seen Obama handle 2 debates hosted by conservative moderators(Fair and Balanced)? I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away, without our money of course! Then you could spend, spend, and spend some more.
Queen Of Mean
October 18th, 2012
11:04 am
Oscar: Never understood why anyone would listen but I guess that must be it. Out of boredom.
Why else? I deal with a lot of numbers all day — sometimes they all start looking alike. Same goes for legalesse. I need something to keep me focused, awake, and in Boortz case, furious enough to stay awake.
StevieR: i’m one of his loyal listeners!! You try dealing with a bunch of boring numbers all day, you’d listen too!
Ahem: He said she was flat bellied, offered as a compliment,
Oh! o.k. — I guess I’m not used to him giving anyone a compliment, I thought he said flat chested and was being a pig — as usual.
……….and read actual tweets from her now scrubbed Twitter account. The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally. He said she was attractive, but not too bright, based upon her writings.
Isn’t that what I said?
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:05 am
I think the debate and binder comment, then the attacks on on woman asking a question will help women move to our President and you will see that in the polls.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
11:05 am
Candy Crowley(the lib) interrupted Romney 28 times and Obama only 8 times.
Have you considered that it’s the moderator’s JOB to cut off someone who’s talking past their allotted time? And that Romney kept arguing with her and acting like that hall monitor you hated in High School?
Whiner.
RB from Gwinnett
October 18th, 2012
11:05 am
Curious, still waiting………
Jack
October 18th, 2012
11:05 am
“I’m no expert in tax law”. That’s painfully obvious.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
11:06 am
Tom — “I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away”
You could always set up housekeeping somewhere else.
I hear the Ethiopia-Somalia region’s barely got any government at all; a con like you should love it there.
Aquagirl
October 18th, 2012
11:06 am
The tweets I heard Neal read were pretty straightforward and made it very clear that this young lady (woman if you prefer) drinks heavily and acts a little trampish, not that that bothers me personally.
Which is why tweeting about “hump day” means she should make less money than a man.
Stuff her back in that binder, cons.
Given Mr. Boortz’s bemoaning his lack of access to sluts in his youth, he should STFU. Guys who gleefully admit they’d “hit that” while complaining about the objects of their wishful hits are creepy. They need therapy, not talkie radio shows.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:07 am
getalifegotnolifeOctober 18th, 2012
11:02 am
Because he like heself, maybe?
No wars right now, but thanks for the suggestion. You see, my uniform is at the cleaners and my bazooka needs a new trigger.
Rightwing Troll
October 18th, 2012
11:07 am
“I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away, without our money of course! Then you could spend, spend, and spend some more.”
It’s my money too moocher… and you spent 8 years spending it like a drunk sailer…
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
11:07 am
When I was working (before retirement) part of my job was to work on state backed bonds issued to finance industry and other business enterprises. Those programs have resulted in a lot of jobs in Georiga. State socialism has been working well in Georgia over the last seventy years. Without it we would probably still have dirt roads and very little electricity and very few jobs.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
11:08 am
getalife — “I think the debate and binder comment, then the attacks on on woman asking a question will help women move to our President and you will see that in the polls.”
FWIW, I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:09 am
Stevie Ray: So my point here is that BO’s primary objective of raising an additional 80 billion a year to reduce deficit by less than 10% is real?
No doubt that if that is all that is done, it doesn’t make for 10%. However, I would suggest that isn’t the entirety of the plan, and there ARE other specifics in Obama’s plan for deficit reduction.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:09 am
RB: don’t you think a year to do a simple survey is a bit ridiculous????
It is harder than you think to get time with a representative sample when you have no credentials to offer.
By the way, I don’t suppose you can date and time your original request and find that it may not actually be a year since you asked?
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:10 am
I ask for facts, JKL2 gives me Breitbart.com
LOLOLOLOL
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:10 am
They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:11 am
I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away, without our money of course! Then you could spend, spend, and spend some more
Why is it that foolish people would whine about having those who disagree leave the country and make some claim that only those who agree with them apparently pay taxes…..even in their construct of the “world”, who would they hire to mow their lawns, clean their homes, etc. if their broad brushes lacking reality were actually reality.
Queen Of Mean
October 18th, 2012
11:12 am
Joe: BTW, how’s Dudley?
Perfect…..
getalife: War on women?
Gads NO!! Not the GOP!! They LOVE women!! Why their acronym stands for : Get yOur Pregnant azz in the kitchen. And fix me a samwich!
Tom: That was supposed to be average citizens(undecided voters), not Code Pink or Occupy favs.
Just because you belong to an organization does NOT necessarily mean that you are NOT undecided.
I mean, come on — if Cheney could’ve NOT SEEN his friend wearing LOUD PINK COLORS while hunting and accidentally shoot him, then anything is possible.
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
11:14 am
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:10 am
_____
Candy is a sweetheart and an attractive women. Each to his own taste, I suppose.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:14 am
Romney aid: “No holding back in third debate”
Romney was pulling his lies? Ooooh, can we get a birth certificate or Kenyan binder?
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
11:17 am
Romney aid: “No holding back in third debate”
So he’s looking to go the “full douche” next time? Or are they just saying this to puff up the TV ratings?
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
11:19 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
______
These debates are getting out of hand and should be toned down a bit. In the old days, thousands of years ago, some tribes would pick their leaders by letting them fight to the death. Fist fight seems like the next step in our debates.
Rocky Marciano would have made a great president.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:19 am
Ahem: Critics say government involvement in the company has cost taxpayers twice: for a $528 million government loan, and for tax breaks potentially worth $340 million that will go to venture capitalists.
Venture capitalists like Bain and Mitt? So are you outraged now at Bain and Mitt or your little Obama poutrage rabbithole without comprehension of why programs like the one Solyndra participated in exist? IOKIYA Mitt?
Rightwing Troll
October 18th, 2012
11:20 am
I guess he plans to tackle the Obama and hold him down and cut his hair…
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 18th, 2012
11:22 am
Byteme – You did see that CNN reported that Obama spoke 4 minutes longer than Romney at the debate, right? Just as Biden spoke a couple minutes longer than Ryan? That’s what 2 liberal female moderators get you? If it was the other way around, you libs would be screaming bloody murder!
Queen Of Mean
October 18th, 2012
11:22 am
getalife: I think the debate and binder comment, then the attacks on on woman asking a question will help women
moverun, screaming and shouting, to our President and you will see that in the polls.I had to a words or two to your comment. Sorry.
Joe: I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.
Word.
Aquagirl: Which is why tweeting about “hump day” means she should make less money than a man.
Stuff her back in that binder, cons.
Hiya Aquagirl!!
Since he didn’t give the total tweet string (like what someone said before her and if she responded to them or not), she could’ve been talking about WEDNESDAY. But, of course, dirty old Boortz mind went straight to his little pecker for the answer.
Given Mr. Boortz’s bemoaning his lack of access to sluts in his youth, he should STFU. Guys who gleefully admit they’d “hit that” while complaining about the objects of their wishful hits are creepy. They need therapy, not talkie radio shows.
Yeah, he’s the creepy uncle / grandfather that your mother tells you to NEVER sit in his lap or pull ANYTHING he tells you to pull.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
Oscar, I agree overall but that also presumes that there are consequences for lying and for not answering questions. Perhaps a debate where the “facts” which can be used are reviewed in advance and checked, and then the candidates can debate using actual facts? Until then, I guess Mitt will try to appear the bully rather than Presidential.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
Ahem: They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.
So according to the conservatives who think She handed the debate to Obama, that must mean she wanted to go out with Romney?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
DDR,
I can’t fault you for not leaving that one alone…I’m not a good target on math given my line of work…but i do find common sense lacking from my repetoir often
KEEP,
Well I do a great amount of data reviewing etcetera but sometimes (ie ARS) it’s less time consuming and more indicative of an actual conversation instead of your continually defensive posture to engage in adult discussion…
The other reason is to get the other guy to expose himself first…better results that way..
KEEPS up that name calling!
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
And now, you’re moment of zen:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6830834/mitt-romney-style-gangnam-style-parody
ROMNEY STYLE! Mitt Mitt Mitt…
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
Goodbye to Ms. Fenton, the flat bellied little honey, and on to something of importance:
Romney says Obama also has investments in Chinese companies and through a Cayman Islands trust
Romney told Obama: “You also have investments in Chinese companies. You also have investments outside the United States. You also have investments through a Caymans trust.”
It’s an accurate set of statements when you consider investments made by managers of the Illinois pension fund in which Obama has an account.
As we noted in reviewing previous claims about Romney’s investments in China, the investments involved are indirect and — as far as anybody has said — made without the knowledge of the account holder.
With that clarification, we rate Romney’s statement Mostly True.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2012/oct/17/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-also-has-investments-chinese-com/
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
“FWIW, I think our own D. DoRight, Aquagirl, Matti, USinUK and Doggone would collectively kick the azz of anyone who dared try putting them in a binder.”
I agree
The campaigns are battling for the women votes right now so it is really dumb to be attacking women. Perhaps boortz is trying to help our President.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
YOUR moment of zen, excuse me
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
OSCAR,
I have no qualms with Candy…but you have to admit she bears significant resemblance to John Candy…
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 18th, 2012
11:26 am
Joe Hussein Mama- Perhaps you and the other Hussein should consider Kenya, both of you would feel comfortable there! Whiner deluxe!
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:26 am
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
Ahem: They said that the reason both candidates were trying so hard at the last debate is they thought the loser had to go out with Candy Crowerly.
So according to the conservatives who think She handed the debate to Obama, that must mean she wanted to go out with Romney?
Wouldn’t anybody, given the choices?
Thomas Heyward Jr.
October 18th, 2012
11:27 am
Joe Hussein Mama
October 18th, 2012
11:06 am
Tom — “I wish you libs had your own country and would just move away”
You could always set up housekeeping somewhere else.
I hear the Ethiopia-Somalia region’s barely got any government at all; a con like you should love it there.
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I sincerely believe that these “somalia” cracks are a form of progressive latent racsism.
Everybody makes fun of them.
Why?
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I’m offended in that I know many good Somaliacs.
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In actuality Somalia is a thriving Stateless society despite US.gov’s random drone inflicted violence.
Massive amounts of wealth is beiing created, a free-market hub of activity, and
free-market telecommunication projects/inventions will soon work their way to the USSA…………….if allowed.
We will all benefit..
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Granted…………..it isn’t such a cool place if you expect politicians to protect you from walking marijuana cigarettes,gun owners, evil rich people, manage your pay check, manage your medical care, manage your uterus, . and manage your retirement.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
11:27 am
The Binder comment is classic..todays headlines read “Candidates Focus on Women” seems nothing has changed in Washington after all..
Union
October 18th, 2012
11:27 am
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:24 am
The campaigns are battling for the women votes right now so it is really dumb to be attacking women. Perhaps boortz is trying to help our President.
you mean there is more than one? i always thought it was “the” president..
gadem
October 18th, 2012
11:28 am
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/15/romney-is-attacked-by-his-fathers-longtime-aide/
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:28 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:19 am
None of the above.
(Do you have you some information on the venture capitalists involved in Solyndra?)
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:29 am
Stevie: The other reason is to get the other guy to expose himself first…better results that way..
Yes, I do recognize your consistent attempts to use this “strategy” rather than attempt to have an adult conversation. You’re already prepared to dismiss anything. If you ask dumb questions as part of your strategy punkin, don’t whine when others point out how silly you are.
Oscar
October 18th, 2012
11:29 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:23 am
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Fact checks in advance would be hard. They have rules now in advance that the candidates ignore once the debate starts. They would never stay with the facts presented in advance. Too much temptation to add facts as they go. Some kind of instant fact check provided to the moderator might be an idea. With a buzzer system.
Also, the moderator should be able to turn off the microphones of the candidates which he wants, if they go over time or need to be corrected on their facts.
A good bully or debater never lets things like facts stand in the way of winning a point, especially if he can’t be proved wrong on the spot.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 18th, 2012
11:30 am
Stevie: I have no qualms with Candy…but you have to admit she bears significant resemblance to John Candy…
Evidence of your ability to have “adult conversation”? how sad.
Paul
October 18th, 2012
11:30 am
“Says the guy who just yesterday wanted to argue about whether or not 4 dead Americans qualifies as a terror attack instead of discussing why the POTUS fed us this BS story about a video for 2 weeks. ”
RB from Gwinnett, the first part of Jay’s lead was about defining what an act of terror is and what it isn’t.
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/on-benghazi-the-debate-and-acts-of-terror/
If you’re incapable of grasping the points and understanding the distinctions, that’s okay. Just keep doing what you do best.
Ahem
October 18th, 2012
11:30 am
Dyslexia: Candy is a sweetheart (should be: sweethearts are a candy)
Aquagirl
October 18th, 2012
11:31 am
Hiya Aquagirl!!
Hey DDR, glad to see someone keeping track of our resident warriors on teh wimmen. Such brave guys, they don’t like the moderator so she belongs in the “fat and unattractive” binder. I’m sure Candy Crowley’s heart is breaking, her entire self-worth is based on how creepy vagina-obsessed d00ds rate her on the banging scale.
Gosh, nobody notices your dripping contempt guys, keep sinking your party of angry white men.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 18th, 2012
11:32 am
You did see that CNN reported that Obama spoke 4 minutes longer than Romney at the debate, right?
And you think Romney would have done better had he talked MORE? Figures.
Maybe he had more binders full of women that he wanted to share with us? Or maybe he wanted to ask again about the size of Obama’s pension fund and then imagine that part of it is invested in a Cayman Islands trust? Or maybe he wants to remind us again about some percentage of people that he doesn’t care about?
Be glad he got off the stage before he did more damage.
USMC
October 18th, 2012
11:32 am
WELFARE SOARS 32% IN 4 YEARS
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/18/welfare-spending-jumps-32-percent-four-years/
Comrade Obama’s “WAR on SUCCESS” and “Trickle Down Government/Poverty” isn’t working, folks and the American people now realize it.
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:33 am
Says the guy who just yesterday wanted to argue about whether or not 4 dead Americans qualifies as a terror attack instead of discussing why the POTUS fed us this BS story about a video for 2 weeks.
“No ACTS OF TERROR will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for THIS TERRIBLE ACT.” (emphasis mine)
Just so we’re clear, look that over and tell me he wasn’t talking about the Benghazi attack. Further, explain to me how thinking the video had something to do with the reason for a terrorist attack excludes calling it a terrorist attack?
Adam
October 18th, 2012
11:33 am
USMC: I don’t suppose you could detail what bills Obama has signed into law the put more people on welfare, could you? Thanks in advance.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 18th, 2012
11:34 am
KEEPS
Adult conversations, of which you often show little understanding, is much different than a debate posture….I reckon that adults generally insult each others intelligence when disagreements presents themselves? You must be a popular guy eh? I do notice your consistency in stooping to defensive tactics when others don’t agree with you or otherwise leave you baffled…
getalife
October 18th, 2012
11:34 am
Union,
There are several campaigns running for President.
Just woke up and climbed out of your rock.
Geeeeezzz.