1:48 pm October 17, 2012, by Jay
Obama supporters buoyed by last night’s debate performance just got a glass of cold water in the face in the form of the latest Gallup numbers among likely voters:
Romney: 51 percent
Obama: 45 percent
That’s a considerably better number for Romney than reported by the Rasmussen tracking poll, which puts the race at Romney 49, Obama 48, well within the margin of error. Other national polls also report a tight race, with advantages for either candidate of two or three points at best.
Obama continues to hold an advantage in state-by-state polling, giving him a lead in the all-important electoral college. That explains in part why Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight continues to give him a 64.8 percent change of winning re-election. However, that advantage continues to erode as well.
The effects, if any, of last night’s showing haven’t manifested themselves yet, and won’t until the end of the week at the earliest. The final debate is Monday.
But with Election Day only three weeks from yesterday, it is anybody’s race.
– Jay Bookman
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Obama's wealth puts him in the top 1% so why the hate towards Romney?
October 17th, 2012
5:52 pm
Things that make you go hmmmmm
Study: Black Americans Feel Less Empowered Under Obama Than They Once Did
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/17/study-black-americans-feel-less-empowered-under-obama-than-they-once-did
td
October 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:43 pm
td,
Look a month before the election and try reading what I said.
embarrassment,
aq is crushed, obl and daffy are dead, the ME are free.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
Which side are you on?
Gallup (Traditional)* 10/16 – 10/18 2590 LV 2.0 49 46 Obama +3
Gallup (Expanded)* 10/16 – 10/18 2277 LV 2.0 51 44 Obama +7
The data does not lie my delusional friend.
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
getalife- Climate change is a job creator to try to stop it. Stop fighting against jobs cons
Thank you Al Gore! Your carbon offsets have saved the planet!
Everyone is better off since I bought a piece of paper giving me rights to some third world country’s air….
pogo
October 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
And Jay, even Candy admitted (after the debate of course) that Romney was right on Obama’s statements about the Benghazi attacks. But you can’t bring yourself to admit anything, absolutely anything, that Obama has done wrong can you? Are you so scared of your editors that you can’t say what you plainly see before you? America is finally catching on to the liberal bias in the the old, established and outdated liberal media sources and we don’t believe anything they say anymore. The NYT’s and the Washington Post are basically irrelavent now as we all know they are in the tank for the liberal cause and that makes them as useless as a tabloid. So are CNN, NBC and CBS. They don’t investigate and report on the weaknesses of politicians. They only do these things on the politicans that don’t agree with their liberal ideology. The sad truth is that once you can’t trust the media because they have not done the job they are paid to do because of their political bias the American people have no recourse but to not trust anything you say. Drudge is becoming more and more successful everyday because of this. And what Drudge draws from are the articles and the things that you won’t see in the liberal press . That is what your bias has done to the industry you work in and you have done none of us (including yourself) any favours. We now have to depend upon an internet clearing house of information from all sources to form our opinions. Some of it is trash and some of it is real but, we all know that was is coming from the old media sources is liberally biased trash.
Thulsa Doom
October 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
Matti,
Ok. I hear what you’re saying. And I do believe you have some very good and valid points. And yes it is difficult to affect the change that you speak of- particularly when you’re dealing with govts and bureaucracys which are cumbersome, resistant to change, often lacking accountability, and just a pain to deal with and effect change. We all know this. And the irony is that many of the liberals on here clamor that the solution to various problems and to these inept and slow moving bureaucracies is more of it. Regardless though kudos to you for your efforts to effect the change you believe in.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:53 pm
Okay…I’m out. Goodnight all.
Normal Free, Human Rights Thug...and liking it!
October 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
JKL,
Just when I thought you could get no lower, you went and broke the record…
td
October 17th, 2012
5:55 pm
The last time McCain led in a poll in 2008 was on 9/15 in 2008.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 17th, 2012
5:56 pm
STUDY: Blacks Feel ‘Less Empowered’ Under Obama…
Things that make you go hmmmm.
drudgey spam
Thulsa Doom
October 17th, 2012
5:56 pm
“It is laughable to see people try to cite that nonsense while those same people brush aside far more sophisticated, far more complex, far more subtle and yes, far more accurate computer models of the climate.”
Now that is funny. Let me know when these computer models can accurately predict the weather one month from now- forget about 50 years. And let me know if you really think the many variables in all these models are going to be exactly as the scientists predict them to be 50 years from now. And last let me know just how good scientists are at predicting the sun’s weather patterns since it is after all the single biggest determinant of weather here on Earth.
Thomas
October 17th, 2012
5:58 pm
Under other circumstances, I would have no problem distinguishing between what was a clear act of terrorism in Manhattan and an attack on a military target such as the Pentagon, which depending on circumstances might NOT be terrorism
Jay- it is a distinction without a difference. The smartest liberal around demonstrated that by firing up the base with the term- that evolved to legal significance- a “hate crime”. A foreign ambassador died and the extremes immediately looked for an answer that kept their saint’s hands clean- it was the video. If the WH did not want to jump to a conclusion then, pray tell, why did they in fact rush to judgement?
Anyway- love the drama masking the dishonesty from both sides. What emotional compensation do you folks who blindly protect either side receive?
Paul
October 17th, 2012
5:58 pm
Towncrier
Thanks for the honest response. Let’s look at it a bit more indepth.
” But I couldn’t say for sure.”
Why not? Just do a bit of reading on greenhouse gasses. See what they do with thermal radiation. Just ask yourself ‘if a little absorbs a little radiation, what happens if we have a lot of greenhouse gasses?”
“And I certainly don’t know how much CO2 might have a deleterious effect if it did – not without isolating all of the factors.”
Again, do a bit of research. Seems to me you’re dismissing all the research that indicates that since the Industrial Revolution we’ve added to the naturally-occurring amount enough to measurably affect the system. Which means more thermal radiation is trapped. Which means there is a point at which we can measure the effects of that trapped radiation.
I think some people make this way more complicated than it is, so they can plead it’s too complicated, therefore has too many variables, therefore has too many potential holes, therefore it’s unreliable, therefore it’s false.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
Towncrier — “I would assert it as a clear possibility. They are paid by media organizations and a number of those organizations are indisputably biased. It wouldn’t be the first time people have done wrong things for money.”
Okay. I *don’t* believe it’s going on (certainly not in any sort of organized way), but since you’re apparently saying that you *believe* it to be true, we can leave it at that. Still, if you come up with some evidence of it actually happening, I’d appreciate a heads-up on it.
“Yet, strangely, most of the more “respectable” pollsters seem somehow to get close to accurate with their final polls.”
Maybe because their polling methods *really do* work and the bias here resides in the *observer* — you.
“FWIW, IMO viewing polls as “snapshots” creates a lot of plausible deniability.”
Why wouldn’t you view them that way? Clearly, a poll taken in August wouldn’t be reliable today. Again, as I said, tracking poll results over time (especially a lot of them) via scatterplot can really help in narrowing down where the *actual* figure resides.
“I’m sorry, but the fact is that lots of people “cheat” in competitions. And they cheat in politics as well – as much as they can get away with.”
I recognize that, but to be honest, if you’re concerned about cheating for political purposes, you should be more worried about Rasmussen. His outfit actually worked for President Bush (the younger).
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
Climate change is part of
God’s plan to keep his
covenant to not again
destroy the human race
by rain. Thus he put a
rainbow in the sky. The
arc of the covenant.
Our fault this time.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
td, I’m working on my 1,000 word concession speech. (grin)
Hope you are too!
For my…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq39zIWJaeU
Jay
October 17th, 2012
6:01 pm
“And Jay, even Candy admitted (after the debate of course) that Romney was right on Obama’s statements about the Benghazi attacks.
No, Pogo, she said it DURING the debate. To Romney:
“It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.”
And as I acknowledged this morning, the Republicans have a point, because Obama’s reference to “acts of terror” the next day was brief and indirect. The real issue, however, is the ridiculously enormous gravity that Republicans attempt to give this question, as if were actually important in ways that none of them, when challenged, are actually able to articulate.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:01 pm
JKL2 5:53
You’re confusing climate change with carbon credits.
indigo
October 17th, 2012
6:02 pm
josef – 5:17
The Jewish God will someday send the Messiah.
The Christian God has already sent the Messiah, Jesus.
The God of Islam sent his prophet,Muhammed.
They are NOT the same God.
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:02 pm
getalife- Economists predict 12 million jobs created the next four years if the gop does not screw it up
Thank you Republican Congress! Imagine what we could do if the Democrats decide to deal in reality for a change.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:04 pm
td
Why are you citing the RCP average when it fits your narrative (last time McCain led), but use a single poll (Gallup) when it fits your narrative?
That is called disingenuous to say the least but carry on…..
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:05 pm
I started listening to the wind and the rain
You strained your ears but could hear nothing
One night I thought I heard them whisper my name
And I went running
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWH_nvLK7jc&feature=watch-vrec
indigo
October 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
Erwin’s Cat
Is your expertise in climatology greater than all the world’s leading experts?
If not, why do you persist in thinking you know more than they do?
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
JAY
@ 6:01
It’s what’s passing for foreign policy policy in their books…point out what may well be fumbles of the current administration without having any clear and coherent alternative to offer…
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtC7i4KMRgo&feature=related
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 17th, 2012
6:06 pm
Thank you Republican Congress! Imagine what we could do if the Democrats decide to deal in reality for a change.
Oh do tell us what bills and acts that the Republican Congress did specifically to create 12 million jobs, with links and evidence…. And evidence of their passage into law or actual action not some bills that never made it further.
yep
October 17th, 2012
6:07 pm
uhuh
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
indigo
Yes, it is the same G-d, the G-d of Abraham…all three of the great monotheistic faiths are the children of Abraham…
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
josef- If you weren’t such a narrow minded snippy fool, and you really DID care about Malala and what she stands for
1. I personally could care less.
2. obama and all his friends are on the side of the guys who shot her.
Jay
October 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
““I would assert it as a clear possibility. They are paid by media organizations and a number of those organizations are indisputably biased. It wouldn’t be the first time people have done wrong things for money.”
Yes.
The pollsters are lying. The climatologists are lying. The clerks in Hawaii’s Department of Vital Records are lying. The statisticians at the Bureau of Labor Statistics are lying. The people who said there were no WMD are lying.
Lies. All lies. All part of the great liberal media conspiracy to tell you things that you do not choose to believe. Honestly, 20 years ago I never would have believed that such a mass self-hypnosis was possible. And now I have witnessed it in action.
td
October 17th, 2012
6:08 pm
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:00 pm
td, I’m working on my 1,000 word concession speech. (grin)
Hope you are too!
For my…
A very good friend of mined use to play with 38 Special. I got to meet them a couple years ago when my friends local band opened for them.
Jay
October 17th, 2012
6:10 pm
“obama and all his friends are on the side of the guys who shot her.”
JKL, that is just truly sick.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
6:11 pm
Well thank you General Bookman for finally getting it straight !!!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
6:11 pm
JKL — “2. obama and all his friends are on the side of the guys who shot her.”
Dude. You are *deeply* effed up IMO. Get professional help.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 17th, 2012
6:12 pm
Indigo,
Can you elaborate more on the whole messiah/god thingy you posted?
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:12 pm
normal- Just when I thought you could get no lower, you went and broke the record…
Which one is that?
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:12 pm
td, one of the more underrated southern bands.
And let’s face it, everyone needs a 20th century fox!
I got to meet these guys a couple of months back.
HUGE fun…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wawp5NNKOi0
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 17th, 2012
6:13 pm
Ruh, roh.
Rising right wing star and and defender of traditional marriage Dinesh D’Souza seems to be getting some on the side.
Although D’Souza has been married for 20 years to his wife, Dixie, in South Carolina he was with a young woman, Denise Odie Joseph II, and introduced her to at least three people as his fiancée.
Finally, near 11 p.m., event organizer Tony Beam escorted D’Souza and Joseph to the nearby Comfort Suites. Beam noted that they checked in together and were apparently sharing a room for the night in the sold-out hotel. The next morning, around 6 a.m., Beam arrived back at the hotel and called up to D’Souza’s room. “We’ll be down in 10 minutes,” D’Souza told Beam. D’Souza and Joseph came down together, and Beam took them to the airport.
The next day another conference organizer, Alex McFarland, distressed by D’Souza’s behavior, confronted him in a telephone conversation. D’Souza admitted he shared a room with his fiancée but said “nothing happened.” When I called D’Souza, he confirmed that he was indeed engaged to Joseph, but did not explain how he could be engaged to one woman while still married to another. When asked when he had filed for divorce from his wife, Dixie, D’Souza answered, “Recently.”
Translation: Don’t do as I do, do as I say do.
Or more simply, IOKIYAR
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:14 pm
“1. I personally could care less.”
You couldn’t or could?
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
6:15 pm
Republicans politicians make it very clear that they are doing the bidding of the likes of Exxon, the Koch crooks, Massey, et al, with their appointments to the science and technology committees. They put dumbasses like Broun and Akin on the committees for a reason and it has nothing whatsover to do with their expertise in any field of science.
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:15 pm
BIG DADDY
@ 6:08
Okay…if you say so…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiiE-h9ZYag
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juQz_i2mxEk
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
-Blacks Feel ‘Less Empowered’ Under Obama…
I thought hand outs were supposed to empower people?
Vote obama: I got fish. Who wants one?
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
indigo
”
The Jewish God will someday send the Messiah.
The Christian God has already sent the Messiah, Jesus.
The God of Islam sent his prophet,Muhammed.
They are NOT the same God.”
That is correct, ’cause most orthodox Christians say G-d sent Himself, as they’re the same. Unlike the other two religion’s view of G-d/.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 17th, 2012
6:16 pm
JAY
I think you are mixed up on the conspiracy’s format…Fox New, MSNBC and the like play subliminal music with hidden messages claiming the other side is the root of all evil..the masses breath it in and both parties end up with mantra that their guy is never wrong…
With 80 some odd polls out there, who the heck knows what’s right.
What is your prognostication relative to voter turnout?
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
jkl continues to demonstrate that new lows do indeed exist and he’s determined, by God, to find them.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
2, being a dick in public, only gets you so far in life!
(Jesus may love you, but the rest of us think you’re an assh*le.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mww_nDz-bz0
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
JKL
And you’re a dip sh*t…that is if Imam Torquemada Big Daddy will let me say that…
getalife
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
td,
“In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples” USA Today.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:17 pm
josef
“It’s what’s passing for foreign policy policy in their books…point out what may well be fumbles of the current administration without having any clear and coherent alternative to offer…”
At least they’re consistent with foreign policy and domestic policy -
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 17th, 2012
6:18 pm
Now that is funny. Let me know when these computer models can accurately predict
the weathera random individual’s death one month from now- forget about 50 years. And let me know if you really think the many variables in all these models are going to be exactly as the scientists predict them to be 50 years from now. And last let me know just how good scientists are at predicting thesun’s weatherhealth advances and medical science death patterns…….I guess the insurance companies will close their doors tomorrow since it is obvious they have no evidence or proof that what they predict works.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
6:18 pm
Towncrier @ 5:47
Thank you. Jay finally decided he couldn’t live with his ridiculous definition.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
6:18 pm
jk,
A new low for you.
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
Paul- You’re confusing climate change with carbon credits
Thanks! I guess I’ve been confused about pollution and greenhouse gases effecting our temperature. Good to know it has no effect
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
josef @ 6:17
He did and well said
Jay
October 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
I love that scene, Josef. The first time I saw that scene my jaw dropped. Burl Ives is just so good, and the lines themselves … right to the heart of it.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
6:19 pm
Paul:
FYI, Bookman finally decided the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon was an act of terrorism.
It’s a start !
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 17th, 2012
6:20 pm
JAMVET,
What ever happened to ARS? I remember in the 70’s as a kid listening to Doraville…while one of those giant Marathon gas containers exploded…Doraville sure no longer meets ARS description…
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:20 pm
jay- JKL, that is just truly sick
Don’t blame me. I’ve voted against obama on three different levels.
Madmax
October 17th, 2012
6:23 pm
Jay
October 17th, 2012
6:01 pm
The real issue is the president, that on the anniversary of 9/11 had not attended his security briefings and that after an attack on the US, he took it as trivial and continued on with his fund raising activities. That shows where the presidents priorities lie. God forbid he stand up Oprah and his rich friends because he has a job to do!
And if our intelligence is so bad in the area, why does the WH dismiss the idea that Iran is not close to making and deploying a bomb? Are we to believe that our intelligence is as bad as Biden the Goofy explained or are we to believe Biden the Forceful that Iran has no capability because our intelligence toldd us? Hard to know what to believe.
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:24 pm
JAY
Williams said that that scene was the best delivery ever done of any of his material…exactly what he had in mind…
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjiBLo-qKZw&feature=related
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:25 pm
PAUL
@ 6:17
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 17th, 2012
6:26 pm
What ever happened to ARS?
Geez….
Let me google that for you.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:26 pm
JKL2
“Thanks! I guess I’ve been confused about pollution and greenhouse gases effecting our temperature. Good to know it has no effect”
You’re batting 1000. Congratulations.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:27 pm
SR, they are still jamming, even if half of the original band has gone to the great gig in the sky!
I saw them in Duluth this summer and they tore the place down.
My home town for the past 33 years…
And you’re right a whole bunch of redneck auto repair joints replaced by Korean restaurants!
Even still, it’s funky but it’s pretty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7VVZQ_BYFE
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 17th, 2012
6:27 pm
Josef,
At first I thought you were refering to Gilbert O’Sullivan’s song of the same name…Love that movie as well…Cool Hand Luke one of my absolute favs..
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:31 pm
kamchak- Translation: Don’t do as I do, do as I say do
Is the young woman a “married” lesbian or did I miss the part about about her working on a sex change?
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:31 pm
Scout
“Bookman finally decided the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon was an act of terrorism.”
Finally?!!?
When has he ever held otherwise?
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
6:31 pm
Mend a country,
mend a city.
US foreign policy.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
JAMVET,
On another musical note, Led Zeppelins O2 reunion concert movie is playing at a handful of theatres and is available on DVD Friday…
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-zo-gYUdr0&feature=related
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:32 pm
STEVIE
I’m a HUGE Paul Newman fan myself, both as an actor and a mensh…and, man, could he interpret Williams!
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:33 pm
jamvet- 2, being a dick in public, only gets you so far in life!
Burn any good books lately?
indigo
October 17th, 2012
6:34 pm
Stevie Ray – 6:12
The same God cannot someday send the Messiah, have already sent the Messiah and send The Prophet instead of a Messiah.That would make no logical sense. So, obviously, they are NOT the same God.
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:36 pm
indigo – Is your expertise in climatology greater than all the world’s leading experts?
If not, why do you persist in thinking you know more than they do?
I didn’t but I know a guy who knows more about data analysis than most climatologist, if not all…my guy made a working spaceship (which required enormous amounts of modeling and data analysis), Jay’s guys made “models” that can’t even predict the past, who are you gonna believe
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:36 pm
indigo
“That would make no logical sense. So, obviously, they are NOT the same God.”
Care to explain the Trinity, then?
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:37 pm
“Jay’s guys made “models” that can’t even predict the past, who are you gonna believe”
Not somebody who talks about predicting the past.
Unless it’s Dr. Who.
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:38 pm
JOSEF
I’m a HUGE Paul Newman fan myself, both as an actor and a mensh…and, man, could he interpret Williams!
He was a heck of a racer too
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:40 pm
indigo
Read Maimonides (and Avorroes) on that….
“The same God cannot someday send the Messiah, have already sent the Messiah and send The Prophet instead of a Messiah.That would make no logical sense. So, obviously, they are NOT the same God.”
The same G-d has sent the Messiah (to the Christians) and Mohammad (to the Muslims)…meanwhile, the Jews wait…
josef
October 17th, 2012
6:41 pm
CAT
And made a damned good salad dressing…a true Renaissance man, he!
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
6:41 pm
“Jay’s guys made “models” that can’t even predict the past, who are you gonna believe”
Bullsh*t
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
6:42 pm
E. Cat — “He was a heck of a racer too”
Jerry was a racecar driver.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Was_a_Racecar_Driver
Tundra Dude
October 17th, 2012
6:46 pm
Rasmussen tracking poll, which puts the race at Romney 49, Obama 48, well within the margin of error
The D’s are shocked up here. BO is down to a one point lead, according to Marquette U poll of 870 likely voters. No R has won Wicy since Ronoldo.
Romney might be the Son of Ronoldo!!
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
Erwin’s cat 6:36
I’d posted this on a few occasions when this topic arose. Given the guy’s not a climate scientist it should fit in with your model of someone who analyzes data and has a professional reputation in his field. It was a gamechanger in my thinking. Never had anybody refute his analysis. One started, but it became obvious he hadn’t watched the presentation when he began his dismissal. Don’t let the title, “Microwaves, Icebergs and Climate Change’ be off-putting. It does tie together. Plus, the first half does set a serious groundwork for he second half.
And I’m sure Dr. Long would be more than happy to be interviewed by Scientific American, or any other such organization.
http://byutv.org/watch/a83c1385-eaf6-4f20-9c5a-b7460700a0da
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
Jay -The question is whether to take his opinion over that of equally bright people who have studied the field for decades and know what the hell they’re talking about. And on that question, no, I will NOT take an amateur dabbler’s opinion over that of experts in the field. Especially not when the fate of the planet rides on it.
Those experts have presented fraudulent data analysis….Those experts have no accountability for being wrong except maybe losing govt funding where as if Burt’s analysis were wrong people might die….have you at least read his analysis? Are you familiar with his other accomplishments besides the dorky spaceship?…seriously try to discredit Burt is a losing argument and hardly credible
Calling Burt an amateur is like calling Ben Shockley bipartisan
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
6:49 pm
You’re batting 1000. Congratulations.
Too funny.
2, get out of the gutter, man.
You wouldn’t know a good book if it fell in your lap, as you apparently have read one since you had to in high school!
BOTH, super sweet ARS at 6:32.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FhLRSCRilU
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:50 pm
Paul,
No I haven’t…thanks
I will look into it
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
6:50 pm
Paul:
He “massaged” it to make it fit.
By the way, he still says the murder of our ambassador was NOT an act of terror.
” ……………. because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror.”
ODD OWL
October 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
When Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda attacked America on 9/11, no one blamed the Bush/Cheney Regime, even though Bush/Cheney took their eyes off of Al-Qaeda and focused like a lazer beam on Saddam Hussain and Iraq… So why do the Romney/Ryan Republicans attempt to blame President Obama and the Democrats for the Benghazi terrorist attack ??? It seem as though Mittens, Tagg the birther and probably the whole Romney family are bias, prejudice and bigoted… Romney was also ignorant of the fact that President Obama called the benghazi terrorist attack an act of terror the day after the attack in a Rose Garden news conference… Candy Crawley verified that the president did called it a terrorist act and exposed Romney to be either ignorant, a liar or both…
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ2murOTsRg&feature=related
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
Paul,
just saw the reference to Dr Who…too funny
BYU TV…I have actually done a lot of research there during grad school…great facilities
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
Scout
Jay’s right.
Those rabbit holes magically multiply…..
YouLibs
October 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
pogo @5:53
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
jamvet- You wouldn’t know a good book if it fell in your lap, as you apparently have read one since you had to in high school
At least I don’t promote censorship.
You’re lying about the rest. Nothing new there…
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
TaxPayer – Bullsh*t
Gazuntite!
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
Paul:
Tell that to the families of those murdered in Benghazi.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
6:59 pm
Erwin’s Cat
I don’t know about the facilities. I did come across the site while I was doing some inquiry into an area. Seems they host experts from various disciplines to come and provide about a 45-minute lecture. No credit, students just encouraged to attend to broaden their thinking. From some of the topics it seems the university goes out of its way to challenge students’ thinking.
Watched another a few months back. Sen Harry Reid. Interesting life story. At the end of his life he went into why he thought it more consistent with the principles Christ taught to be a Democrat than a Republican. I laughed, thinking of the discussion that must have prompted!
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
Those experts have presented fraudulent data analysis
Back up your claim with a little of that stuff known as facts. Further, Burt acknowledges himself that he dabbles with aspects of climate science as a hobby. He has never published a paper in the field or even submitted a paper for peer review. Here is a good exchange between Burt and Brian Angliss, another engineer, on Burt’s work. It’s quite interesting.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
2, you just promote the banning of labor unions, keeping people from voting, the corporate takeover of we the people’s government and other fascist philosophies.
Your hero candidate:
Corporations are people, my friend.
A real American hero:
The first truth is that the liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt, April 29, 1938. Message to congress.
Now get out of the gutter, oh nasty one…
TM
October 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
“The real issue, however, is the ridiculously enormous gravity that Republicans attempt to give this question, as if were actually important in ways that none of them, when challenged, are actually able to articulate.” I guess you think its nonsense when the President appears to misleading or not telling the truth. Of course we know Bush lied and was skewered by you and your paper. But when Obama goes on for two weeks lying to us its just something to ignore because it was of no consequence,