1:48 pm October 17, 2012, by Jay
Obama supporters buoyed by last night’s debate performance just got a glass of cold water in the face in the form of the latest Gallup numbers among likely voters:
Romney: 51 percent
Obama: 45 percent
That’s a considerably better number for Romney than reported by the Rasmussen tracking poll, which puts the race at Romney 49, Obama 48, well within the margin of error. Other national polls also report a tight race, with advantages for either candidate of two or three points at best.
Obama continues to hold an advantage in state-by-state polling, giving him a lead in the all-important electoral college. That explains in part why Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight continues to give him a 64.8 percent change of winning re-election. However, that advantage continues to erode as well.
The effects, if any, of last night’s showing haven’t manifested themselves yet, and won’t until the end of the week at the earliest. The final debate is Monday.
But with Election Day only three weeks from yesterday, it is anybody’s race.
– Jay Bookman
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Cosby
October 17th, 2012
5:00 pm
This country needs big change to bring back hope. Lets hope that not only the white house changes but congress does so as well. Otherwise, this country will be heading off a cliff that is only a breth away..for those who like things free..someone has to pay for them and the bill is quickly coming due!
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:01 pm
…or do you mean flipping burgers type job growth?
The minimum wage jobs that pay less now in 1968 dollars than they did in 1968, O12?
We should all be so proud of our corporate overlords, huh?
BOTH, oh hell to the yeah.
Cranking that 4:50 right now.
That debut LP was one of the greatest ever…
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:01 pm
jk,
mitt is in the lead because of the first debate.
After the last two debates you will see them move to our President.
16 is right around the corner.
If you cons start acting like Americans and unite with our President to get the terrorists, you might have a chance. Good luck picking a candidate that will not freak out after the 3 am call.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
“or those who like things free..”
They want jobs con.
AmericaShrugged
October 17th, 2012
5:03 pm
If the polls are right and the election were held today we’d have a President elected by the electoral college that got less votes than Romney. And you thought letting one person (the SCOTUS in a 5-4 vote) determine the law of the land was bad. What’s this? Minority rules.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
5:05 pm
Towncrier — “Sure…they are confessing to it left and right, their livelihood be damned.”
Once again, “hard evidence,” please. And what are these ‘confessions’ to which you refer?
“I think one interesting thing to look at will be the final polls or those just before the election. It will be interesting to see if Quinnipiac (for instance) over samples Democrats then.”
Same question I asked K71 — are you asserting that pollsters are *deliberately setting out* to oversample one or more demographic groups?
“If they do – and they are really wrong – then there will be your evidence.”
Logical fallacy. Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
5:05 pm
Jay – Burt Rutan is an aerospace engineer. He knows how to make spaceships. That’s like claiming that cobbler would make a great runner because after all, he knows how to make shoes.
He is a master of data analysis (more so than any climatologist I would bet) and that’s what he did…looked at their data and came to an entirely different opinion…comparing making shoes to the first independent successful commercial space flight…that’s very laughable…
those accurate models you reference can’t even predict the past…again, laughable
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:07 pm
Coito, ergo sum.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:07 pm
Jam
You might know this, but the picture that is on the cover of “Pronounced ………………….” was taken in downtown Jonesboro. I hear they used to jam over on Lake Spivey in the early 70s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM95u8Xpjyk
Ben Shockley
October 17th, 2012
5:07 pm
PREDICTION: getalife will disappear on Nov 7
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
5:08 pm
getalife- It takes one person to spark change and it took one girl to change Pakistan. I think our President will call her the hero.
Can we bring her over to replace dumb a$$? I’m sure she would make a better president (even with brain damage).
Ben Shockley
October 17th, 2012
5:08 pm
Adam has already disappeared.
The writing is on the wall/
Ben Shockley
October 17th, 2012
5:09 pm
“Can we bring her over to replace dumb a$$? I’m sure she would make a better president (even with brain damage).”
why not? We already have established precedent with a Muslim president.
Roswell mom
October 17th, 2012
5:09 pm
Romney’s economic policies = GW Bush’s economic policies. He may win, but you’d better hope you can get your money to the Caymans in a hurry. His claims of being able to balance the budget will not be achievable – at least if he’s telling the truth about wanting to increase military spending, not raise taxes and keep Medicare intact. Of course, quickly balancing the budget isn’t a real issue, since inflation remains low and there’s no crowding out of private borrowing. Where the real damage will be done is when he pays back his sponsors by getting rid of regulations on business that protect investors, employees and consumers. Romney will have the full blown depression that GWB started. If that sounds good to you, vote for him.
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
“If the polls are right and the election were held today we’d have a President elected by the electoral college that got less votes than Romney.”
Let’s hope that happens!
Anyone want to bet on the where the Real Clear Politics average will be at in one week? Right now Romney is up by .4%
RCP averages have been very accurate.
I predict an Obama bump of 2%. Anyone?
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
ben,
I will be lurking.
jk,
I think she will stay in England.
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
JKL
That brain damage snipe speaks to something in your character I find imminently offensive…you’ve got a nasty streak a mile wide…
adam smith's invisible hand
October 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
If Romney wins, the middle class will be lost for generations.
Jay
October 17th, 2012
5:11 pm
He is a master of data analysis (more so than any climatologist I would bet)
Right. And on what basis would you make that bet? Because he tells you something that you find convenient to believe? He has no ability to analyze data on the climate because he knows little about the climate and has no training in how it works.
I would no more let Rutan tell me about climate change than I would jump in a space vehicle designed by a climatologist. Expertise in one field does NOT translate to expertise in another, no matter how devoutly you wish to believe it.
Ben Shockley
October 17th, 2012
5:11 pm
“Of course, quickly balancing the budget isn’t a real issue, ”
I bet you were one of the people whose house was foreclosed, weren’t you?
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:11 pm
cat, though the North Koreans love you Republicans (they ain’t completely alone!), don’t be a flat earther.
I’ve got bad news for you deniest (is that a word?) cons – cigarettes DO kill people, gravity is more than a “theory”, Darwin is 150 years on and you still haven’t come up with dick to explain him away and Rick Perry and Towncrier are dead wrong – the earth is not cooling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk
Stew Day
October 17th, 2012
5:12 pm
HIstorically if a challenger is tied or ahead going into the stretch you can expect independents to break 2-1 even 3-1 for the challenger. Obama can not defend his record of complete incompetence.
Ben Shockley
October 17th, 2012
5:13 pm
“He has no ability to analyze data on the climate because he knows little about the climate and has no training in how it works.”
I could say the same about you and economics.
In fact, I have said it.
Old Goober
October 17th, 2012
5:13 pm
You are 100% correct. No college team would beat an NFL 2nd string.
Not many of you are old enough to remember when there was an annual game featuring college all-stars and an NFL team. It was semi-competitive for a few years, but after a while the odds got so stacked in favor of the NFL team that the entire system was abandoned. Now the season-opening game features a pair of NFL teams playing one another in Canton, Ohio.
Mighty Righty
October 17th, 2012
5:14 pm
Mick
You have a poor memory. Bush was re elected something that Obamanazi won’t. Obama prays to Allah every night to return the economy to the level Bush enjoyed at the end of his term. In fact just last week Obamanazi was bragging that unemployment had improved to 7.8% falsely claiming that was the rate four years ago. It wasn’t. In October of 2008 unemployment was 5.7%. That was before the Bamster started bad mouthing the economy, which he kept up for most if not all of his first year. Still does! Guess what? The president’s attitude does effect consumer confidence. In fact two years of his negative attitude gave the Republicans control of the House and got rid of Obamanazi’s filibuster proof majority in the Senate. You Democrats have got to get over Bush. He is not running plus his record even at the end was better than Obamanazi’s. Obamanazi did reduce the rate of layoffs at a cost of 5 trillon dollars. It would have been cheaper to have just bought all of his jobless estates in the Bahamas and retired them on 100,000 a year for life.
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:15 pm
getalife
Interesting thing about Malala, some of the older kids at school have been preparing get well cards for her…it was not an assignment, but THEIR automatic reaction…
Jay
October 17th, 2012
5:15 pm
from the scientists at NOAA, in a press release issued today:
“Some skeptics of global warming have been pointing to British data that a London newspaper claims shows no warming since 1997. But the United Kingdom meteorological office and Weaver said the claims are misleading.
“I don’t know what data they are looking at,” Weaver said. “2010 is the warmest year. 2005 is the second warmest year.”
According to NOAA, all of the top ten warmest years on record have occurred after 1997, when the skeptics claimed global warming stopped.
If you are citing a London tabloid as your evidence, weighed against the scientists at NOAA and elsewhere, well … that’s a really really really poor argument.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:16 pm
The cons are angry because they know they are going to lose.
Brain damage sux because you have a permanent headache that never goes away.
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
5:16 pm
Expertise in one field does NOT translate to expertise in another, no matter how devoutly you wish to believe it.
data analysis is data analysis…..that’s where the expertise is…because it doesn’t fit your narrative, it must be wrong and Rutan is a huckster…Right even though he is one of the most accomplished engineer/scientists in modern history
I’ll take his opinion over yours and even mine in a skinny minute…
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
“Global warming hasn’t stopped, Crier. That is, unless you take the word of a London tabloid over the decades of research conducted by the planet’s top climatologists.”
It has plateaued and we will see where it goes from here. I think it has mostly to do with the size of the “trend” (in years) you are plotting, Jay (please pay particular note to the 2nd millennium temperatures):
=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temperature_record_of_the_past_1000_years
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
RIGHTY
You are aware that if indeed he is praying to All-h, he’s praying to the same G-d as Jews and Christians, aren’t you…or for that matter, according to the Sufi, the Un-versal G-d of all humanity…
philosopher
October 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
I can see no reason for anyone to WANT Willard Mitt Romney to be president. From economics to health to freedom to human rights to foreign policy, no one, and that includes Romney, actually knows what he stands for. He has blatantly and without shame, flipflopped on every possible issue. If you are voting for him because all you desperately want is a Republican, ANY Republican …or a white person, ANY white person in office, that I get.
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
I did some checking into some of Rutan’s claims. Once he was challenged, he started back pedaling fast enough to put a bike in flight without the use of wings.
Jay
October 17th, 2012
5:17 pm
“I could say the same about you and economics.
In fact, I have said it.”
In that specific case, Ben, I don’t have to be better informed on economics than economists. I just have to be better informed than YOU.
Which is quite easily done, as demonstrated repeatedly.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:18 pm
Righty, get some help.
Soon.
You and your imaginary Nazis are gonna blow a gasket…
td
October 17th, 2012
5:19 pm
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:01 pm
No my delusional friend. The first debate was the excuse the polling agencies and the LMS made to stop using the bogus methodology and to start to portray a more accurate look at the election before election day. The LMS has been holding the water for Obama for his entire term in office and now that it appears he is going to lose they have to put on the perception that they are fait and balanced so that they can go after Romney when he is President and not have the American people totally turn them off and they lose their jobs.
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
5:19 pm
Rutan very quickly backed off of any claim that he was anything more than an aeronautical engineer as well. He is supposed to be implementing changes to his presentation based on numerous errors that he has acknowledged once they were pointed out to him.
Georgia
October 17th, 2012
5:20 pm
Romney could win, and four years from now, the economy will do exactly the same thing it would do if Obama had won. Globilization is unchartered territory and you may as well try to predict where lighting will strike four years from now.
Why doesn’t anyone understand that blogs and websights and their accompanying opinions exist only to sell “How to make money at home” or “Get my free book” spam? Nobody knows what to do to create growth. Not in this globalization.
Unchartered territory. Expect the unexpected. I think we are on the verge of a new golden age of growth and prosperity. The only thing that can stop this growth would be if all 7 billion people on the planet created their own websites trying to sell each other “How to make money at home” spam.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
5:20 pm
“Rutan will also not interview with Scientific American, as he claimed that the magazine has “…improperly covered man-made global warming. They drink Kool-Aid instead of doing research. They parrot stuff from the IPCC and Al Gore.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Rutan#cite_note-Cohen-2010-47
(New Scientist, January 30, 2010, Issue 2745, pg.26. )
Translation: “I’m unwilling to be interviewed by experts in the field who would challenge me. Plus I have no confidence I can make a convincing case to people who have the credentials to know what I’m talking about, so I’ll just call them all Kool-Aid drinkers and hide.”
That’s about all I need to hear about Rutan as an expert source -
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:20 pm
josef,
Yes, it sparked reaction across the world especially with children.
Mighty Righty
October 17th, 2012
5:20 pm
Jay, we all know why you leftists abandoned the term “global warming” in favor of “climate change” so don’t start that balogny.
Obama's wealth puts him in the top 1% so why the hate towards Romney?
October 17th, 2012
5:23 pm
FWIW, reports say that 90 year old George McGovern is non-responsive in hospice care. I really didn’t care for his political platform, but he was one helluva gentleman and American.
My how politics have changed. Candidates now beat their chests if they served in the military. McGovern never played that card and he was a WWII hero. I remember reading where he flew in bombers and earned the distinguished flying cross (or whatever they call it).
Too bad politicians on both sides aren’t more of a true servant like McGovern.
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:24 pm
GEORGIA
There’s a good deal of sense in what you said. I’m not so sure about the Golden Age thingie, though.
Jay
October 17th, 2012
5:25 pm
“I’ll take his opinion over yours and even mine in a skinny minute…
yeah, maybe so. But that’s not the question, now is it?
The question is whether to take his opinion over that of equally bright people who have studied the field for decades and know what the hell they’re talking about. And on that question, no, I will NOT take an amateur dabbler’s opinion over that of experts in the field. Especially not when the fate of the planet rides on it.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:25 pm
Jay, we all know why you leftists abandoned the term “global warming” in favor of “climate change” so don’t start that balogny (sic).
Righty, at least get within six years of the current conversation, OK?
From a 2006 article in National Geographic:
Scientists often use the term “climate change” instead of global warming. This is because as the Earth’s average temperature climbs, winds and ocean currents move heat around the globe in ways that can cool some areas, warm others, and change the amount of rain and snow falling. As a result, the climate changes differently in different areas.
http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/global-warming/gw-overview/
Obamabarrassment
October 17th, 2012
5:26 pm
Our President will win the last debate.
Our President will strike the terrorists in Libya.
Our President will lower unemployment in the October job report.
Our President will get patriotism after the obl movie.
Our President will win reelection.
I have no doubt.
Just like the old communistas were taught songs to sing about the revolution. Just like bad Christians whose religion is songs (or Muslims, whose religion is blowing things up) and nothing else. –getalife, he speaks so well for modern liberals…so well he probably isn’t even aware how prescient he is.
’nuff said.
Oh and getalife,
I look forward, I really look forward to voting and helping, with the intelligence of the nation and with the citizens of Georgia, to correcting the mistake that was electing Obama/Biden (grumpy/dopey) and bringing your whole doubts to full fruition in three weeks.
But hey, you’ll still have a great song to sing, if you want to keep humming the tune. ……” I have no doubt…..” do do doooo…..
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:26 pm
Economists predict 12 million jobs created the next four years if the gop does not screw it up.
td,
They had mccain up by 10 then corrected right before the election.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
5:26 pm
M. Righty — “Jay, we all know why you leftists abandoned the term “global warming” in favor of “climate change”
Right, because “climate change” is more descriptive of what the climate models actually predict.
Obamabarrassment
October 17th, 2012
5:27 pm
Oh and getalife,
No doubt the prez will “strike” the terrorists in Libya—if he thinks it will help him on November 6.
Right now, he’s got to be strategizing with David Axelrod about which attack date would bring the most electoral votes to his losing cause.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:28 pm
“Same question I asked K71 — are you asserting that pollsters are *deliberately setting out* to oversample one or more demographic groups?”
I would assert it as a clear possibility. They are paid by media organizations and a number of those organizations are indisputably biased. It wouldn’t be the first time people have done wrong things for money. Yet, strangely, most of the more “respectable” pollsters seem somehow to get close to accurate with their final polls. FWIW, IMO viewing polls as “snapshots” creates a lot of plausible deniability. I’m sorry, but the fact is that lots of people “cheat” in competitions. And they cheat in politics as well – as much as they can get away with.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:28 pm
embarrassment,
I will look at the cons in line in the eyes and start chanting four more years.
pogo
October 17th, 2012
5:29 pm
Jay I guess Candy lived up to her liberal cred’s last night as you knew she would. With her liberal bias in full display what she did do was expose why Americans don’t trust you or her or any other member of the “mainstream media”. The game was rigged against Romney from the start by Candy and company but Romney stood up to it with dignity and with intelligence. As for the imposter in chief, he just continued to do the only thing he knows to do which is to try to destroy his opponent not on substance but on ill defined accusations and innuendo. Obama has no record of success to run on. No, Obama didn’t win last night. He continues to lose and in three short weeks we will see
by how much. Obama did not have a plan, he did not have an excuse or even acknowledge that he had made any mistakes during his tenure. Besides liberals, your brethren out there are threatening to assassinate Romney if he is elected. Twitter is afire with these liberal morons whose main beef is that their food stamps will be gone if he is elected. I predict that if Romney wins there will be riots in the big cities and apparently the feds are afraid of this as well. If Obama wins, then life will go on. That tells you exactly about the kinds of people that support Obama and that support Romney. You liberals should be proud. Jay your own inability to criticize Obama places you squarely in the camp
of the typical Obama supporter.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:30 pm
“No doubt the prez will “strike” the terrorists in Libya—if he thinks it will help him on November 6″
Are you a terrorist sympathizer?
Sounds like it.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:31 pm
pogo,
Your whining just gets better and better.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_ulEUY6V4&feature=related
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
5:33 pm
Paul:
“Scout
What’s your point with the 4:02?”
Just exposing Jay for his absurd definition of terrorism, since according to his definition the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was terrorism but the attack on the Pentagon the same morning wasn’t since it was a “military target”.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
Granted, National Geographic is no Heartland Institute!
But they do have a sort of so-so scientific track record over the past 124 years!
LOL at global coolers…
Randy Meisner from Scottsbluff….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI73sJRPZBc
Obamabarrassment
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
JamVet,
You and Mr. Bookman pretend that the conversation has changed –for legitimate reasons.
Now the ubiquitous claim is that “climate change” must be stopped. And hurrah, the liberals were toasting it’s demise upon the nomination of our current embarrassing president.
But if climate change is happening and it must be prevented, please answer the one simple question:
When has the planet’s climate ever NOT changed?
Go ahead, and if you want to duck behind some “more learned” “scientists” go ahead. Find some silly scientist that can answer this one and maybe we’ll start listening to you “warming” alarmists.
What you prove in your fecklessness to answer is that you yourselves know little or nothing about science, much less warming, change or how to make arguments concerning them.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
To quote him again:
“The premise of the entire debate is false, because the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was not an act of terror. An act of terror, by definition, targets the civilian population and attempts to inflict terror on that population. This was a military operation/assassination, targeted not at civilians but at the top American presence in Libya and, indirectly, at the armed guards who protected that presence. It was an attack on the United States and its interests.
Calling it an act of terror confuses the issue.”
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGrzbxRaxs
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
“Just exposing Jay for his absurd definition of terrorism, since according to his definition the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center was terrorism but the attack on the Pentagon the same morning wasn’t since it was a “military target”.
Well…that was an “exceptional” instance of terrorism
Fred ™
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
TBS: When they transfered that album to disk they cut off two songs……
Mighty Righty
October 17th, 2012
5:35 pm
josef
Thank you for your advice. While there may not be a difference to whom Muslims pray when compared with Jews and Christians, there is one huge difference in their beliefs. That difference was recently manifested in Libya at our counselate.
td
October 17th, 2012
5:37 pm
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:26 pm
td,
They had mccain up by 10 then corrected right before the election.
Final Gallop poll in 2008:
Obama 55%
MaCain 44%
Final Results:
Obama 53%
McCain 46%
Gallops final poll gave the Dems a 2 point advantage as compared to the final outcome.
Try again
Obamabarrassment
October 17th, 2012
5:37 pm
Are you a terrorist sympathizer?
Sounds like it.
No, I’m all for the Obama foreign policy to begin to working against the terrorists for the first time. If it happens for the maximum political effect, so much the better for lil’ Barry.
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:38 pm
Obamabarrassment
I’d say he’s waiting until the Prime Minister designee gets his new government lined up…
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
5:38 pm
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/17/14514354-man-arrested-in-alleged-plot-to-attack-federal-reserve-in-nyc?lite
Since you get full blame for any Terrorist acts that are successful you must get full credit as well for those that are not.
Anything else would be hypocrisy.
Thank you for keeping me safe President Obama.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:39 pm
Climate change is a job creator to try to stop it.
Stop fighting against jobs cons.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
“When has the planet’s climate ever NOT changed?”
Never. It it CANNOT be conclusively proved that just because the earth has been undergoing a warming trend that such a thing never happened before or that it is now BECAUSE of CO2 emissions. The question is the sky really falling?
Paul
October 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
Scout
It seems to me you’re misreading Jay’s introductory comments.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
No, I’m all for the Obama foreign policy to begin to working against the terrorists for the first time.
Seemed to work against Osama bin Laden.
You know… the guy who masterminded 9/11
Compare that to what the Republicans did. They ran around Iraq looking for boogeymen and got alot of people killed.
Pretty easy to see who won that one.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:40 pm
“Since you get full blame for any Terrorist acts that are successful you must get full credit as well for those that are not.
Anything else would be hypocrisy.
Thank you for keeping me safe President Obama.”
Good point.
Thank you President Obama.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 17th, 2012
5:41 pm
Towncrier:
They will go to any lengths to not call it what it is.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzU2iJ9qfXg
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
5:43 pm
Why are terrorists attacking
the US ? What have we done? We extend a helping
hand and someone bites it.
We defended against Iraq
twice after their scurrilous
attacks. When Afghanistan
resisted our peaceful tour
into their country we once
again began defending with
vigor. If they would accept
democratic republicanism
we would empty our treasury to help them.
Mystifying ingratitude to
attack their liberators.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:43 pm
“They will go to any lengths to not call it what it is.”
It is a creative dodge, you must admit.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:43 pm
td,
Look a month before the election and try reading what I said.
embarrassment,
aq is crushed, obl and daffy are dead, the ME are free.
You don’t know what you are talking about.
Which side are you on?
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
5:44 pm
josef- That brain damage snipe speaks to something in your character I find imminently offensive
It sometimeshappens when you get shot in the head. I’m just saying that even if she doesn’t fully recover, I would still take her over obama.
I wonder if she plays golf? I will bet she has a better arm too.
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:44 pm
RIGHTY
It was also manifested when tens of thousands of ordinary Libyans took to the streets to send us the message that they were sorry and grieved their loss of their friend and to let us know that those were NOT good Muslims. The numbers protesting the shooting of Malala are much larger than those numbers of the bad Muslims…
Folks keep yapping about where are the “good” Muslims? Why don’t they speak out? Well, they are and it’s time we do the “good Christian, good Jewish” thing and give them the support (and prayers) they need to challenge those who would seek to pervert their faith…
Paul
October 17th, 2012
5:45 pm
Towncrier
” It it CANNOT be conclusively proved that just because the earth has been undergoing a warming trend that such a thing never happened before or that it is now BECAUSE of CO2 emissions. ”
Is it your contention no amount of CO2 will have a deleterious effect on climate?
indigo
October 17th, 2012
5:45 pm
There are many qualities needed to be a good American President. Being a reasonably good debater is just one of them, and of realtively little importance. And yet, the media seems to be doing everything in it’s power to brainwash us into thinking that the next president should be whoever wins these debates.
I wonder why this is?
Fred ™
October 17th, 2012
5:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcceU3qyVzA
JKL2
October 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
getalife- the ME are free.
ROFL! Basking in the glow of sharia law…
You must REALLY hate women.
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
My bologna has a first name, it’s Mighty…
Jay
October 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
I’ll temporarily set aside my ban on responding to the silliness of 0311 to set this straight:
Under other circumstances, I would have no problem distinguishing between what was a clear act of terrorism in Manhattan and an attack on a military target such as the Pentagon, which depending on circumstances might NOT be terrorism.
In this particular case, however, that attack on the Pentagon was undertaken by the hijacking of a civilian airliner with 59 people on board and forcing it to crash into the military target, an act that without a doubt constitutes terrorism.
However, I fully understand that with that particular rabbit hole filled and capped, another will open any minute now ….
td
October 17th, 2012
5:46 pm
Enter your comments here
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
““They will go to any lengths to not call it what it is.”
BTW, Scout, I challenged Jay’s “definition” of terrorism here:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/10/17/state-chartered-school-proponents-show-a-lot-of-brass/#comment-1115357
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
josef,
Well said.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:47 pm
td
Are you saying that the pollsters who predicted a margin less than what it ended up being, were giving a “cushion” or pad for the Republicans?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html
If you are going to tell it, tell it all brother. Tell it all
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 17th, 2012
5:48 pm
iHowever, I fully understand that with that particular rabbit hole filled and capped, another will open any minute now ….
And water is wet.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
Jay
If you miss the rabbit hole, step into one and break your ankle………….. You only have Jay to blame
josef
October 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
JKL
If you weren’t such a narrow minded snippy fool, and you really DID care about Malala and what she stands for, you’d be following her story and know that the prognosis is for a full recovery. You are just a disrespectful. You are not a good person, imeoiauo… good people don’t use a tragedy such as this involving a child to make light of…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 17th, 2012
5:49 pm
Enter your comments anywhere else but here
TaxPayer
October 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
Shell also appears to be grateful for the lack of arctic sea ice. I’m sure they wish there were even less of it year round. Meanwhile, back on planet earth, Republicans have long since acknowledged their absolute ignorance in any field of science given their support of people like Broun that claim the earth is only 9000 years old.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Is it your contention no amount of CO2 will have a deleterious effect on climate?”
No. But I couldn’t say for sure. And I certainly don’t know how much CO2 might have a deleterious effect if it did – not without isolating all of the factors.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
5:50 pm
“You must REALLY hate women.”
“Binder full of women” is exploding on the Internet.
mitt has a women voter problem.
Thomas
October 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
If Romney wins it is Bush’s fault.
Georgia
October 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
Global warming? Climate change? The issue is Planet Formation. If you talk about planet formation, then you are talking about star formation, which necessarily creates planets. If you’re talking about star formation, then you’re talking about galaxy formation, which necessarily creates stars. If you’re talking about galaxy formation, then you are talking about black hole formation, which necessarily creates galaxies and about which we will never figure out.
So anyone who claims to know whether mankind is responsible for global cooling or global warming has a lot of imaginary data to present.
They BOTH suck
October 17th, 2012
5:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy5TIsBNjhE&feature=related
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
5:52 pm
But if climate change is happening and it must be prevented, please answer the one simple question:
IF it is happening???????????????
Where do you get your information? The Korean Central news Agency?
But just for grins, I’ll answer it, it is irrelevant.
Either that or you need to share your groundbreaking news to the climatological experts out there, who apparently have not even considered that question!!
Wake up and join the Age of Enlightenment