Gallup: Romney busts out a six-point lead
Obama supporters buoyed by last night’s debate performance just got a glass of cold water in the face in the form of the latest Gallup numbers among likely voters:
Romney: 51 percent
Obama: 45 percent
That’s a considerably better number for Romney than reported by the Rasmussen tracking poll, which puts the race at Romney 49, Obama 48, well within the margin of error. Other national polls also report a tight race, with advantages for either candidate of two or three points at best.
Obama continues to hold an advantage in state-by-state polling, giving him a lead in the all-important electoral college. That explains in part why Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight continues to give him a 64.8 percent change of winning re-election. However, that advantage continues to erode as well.
The effects, if any, of last night’s showing haven’t manifested themselves yet, and won’t until the end of the week at the earliest. The final debate is Monday.
But with Election Day only three weeks from yesterday, it is anybody’s race.
– Jay Bookman
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Paul
October 17th, 2012
2:57 pm
“what’s even sadder is that after 4 years the best “accomplishment” Obama can come up with is that Romney is rich.”
A fact for which Romney should be profoundly grateful to Democrats, who have pretty much continued the policies that allow the rich to shield much of their earnings from the tax rates assessed upon the middle class.
Doggone/GA
October 17th, 2012
2:57 pm
“What’s it been, twice, that the popular vote leader didn’t win the presidency?”
Two or three, I think…not many – however many it was
cloudodust
October 17th, 2012
2:58 pm
I’m beginning to believe that it’s the MSM who has an agenda and it’s just that BHo is the lackey elected to carry it out. All in to prop up the media’s puppet, President obama
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
2:58 pm
ROFL. I’ll take that as a no – you can’t explain it.
It’s been explained ad naseum, yet you still insist on hearing it. Listen if I put it on a CD so that you can play, will you be happy then?
Paul: Especially given Nordstrom’s testimony yesterday to Rep Issa that even if they’d gotten every bit of security assistance requested, it would not have prevented the outcome.
Hiya Paul!! True – but that doesn’t matter to some, they want any and everything to make Obama look bad. I think getalife or maybe josef, said recently that between the GOP and the BinLaden supporters, one can’t tell who wants Obama out more.
stands @ 2:49 – Why bother? They’re going to pretend NOT to believe you or the article, or the fact that snow is cold and rain is wet, or whatever they choose to ignore on a Wednesday; so you should just save your breath.
gtt
October 17th, 2012
2:58 pm
Swallow that cold water, it will help fight that indigestion.
Mick
October 17th, 2012
2:59 pm
usmc
Too late, I’m 6′2″ you really, really want obama to go down but the 47 percenters are not in a forgiving mood…
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:00 pm
One detail that was so-far overlooked last night is that Romney mentioned his plan for eliminating deductions only affected the top FIVE percent of wage-earners.
That’s a married couple making $154,643.
DL Rupper @gitmo62
October 17th, 2012
3:00 pm
Maybe if the President didn’t lie and have Moderator help he would be as impotant in debate #2 as he was in Debate #1. Oh, well in the real show down Nov 6 he will lose and that’s all that counts. Tyranny ended
Joe Hussein Mama
October 17th, 2012
3:00 pm
M. Righty — “In addition, the Bush policies resulted in millions fewer on food stamps and welefare.”
Incorrect. There were HUGE increases to both during the Bush Administration.
USMC
October 17th, 2012
3:02 pm
“I was referring to USMC’s “The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate.””–PAUL
Paul misses the point AGAIN.
All of the networks: CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc. etc. etc. are talking about the BENGHAZI comment from the debate; not only Republicans.
And now Candy Crowley’s HUGE blunder of coming to Obama’s aid in the debate is highlighting Benghazi…. And by the way, America still has not heard the truth on Benghazi from the Obama Administration.
John Townsend
October 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
Regardless, Romney has already lost the election. There is literally no electoral path for him to reach 270 at this point – he would literally have to win 7 out of 8 swing states, and that just isn’t going to happen.
"Keep Obama in President"....
October 17th, 2012
3:03 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but would not Obama be considered as falling within the top 1% of the country in terms of personal wealth?
Romney earned his wealth through 25 years in the private sector.
How did Obama earn his millions in net worth? The pay of Community Organizers, State office, one term in the US Senate and 4 years in the White House doesn’t reward someone a value of $12-15 million.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:04 pm
USMC
“You can whine about it all you want Paul, but more intelligent people realize the significance of the Obama Administration’s LIE about Benghazi.”
You sure have some… original ideas about the meanings of some words, there, USMC.
But let’s skip that and you can tell us what the lie was.
I’m sure with all your military experience you’ll be able to weave it into the framework of investigation, identification and weighing of factors, assigning relative weight, determining cause, recommending corrective action – you know, all that stuff that the military does in such situations.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:05 pm
“I was referring to USMC’s “The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate.”
Fair enough. Benghazi would not be that much of an issue save for the undeniable fact that both Obama and his administration for two weeks after the event blamed it on the angry response to a anti-Muslim film while knowing (according to the POTUS last night) it was likely a terrorist attack. That engenders suspicion, don’t you know?
Another potentially big issue is Syria. I have now seen numerous reports that there is widespread resentment among the rebels that westerners (read the US) haven’t supported them in their war (as we did in Libya) and THAT is why there at this time so many terrorist groups there. The ME is becoming a veritable powder keg.
USMC
October 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
“Too late, I’m 6′2″ you really, really want obama to go down but the 47 percenters are not in a forgiving mood…”
That’s not what the polls are showing…
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
anon1
“The “put it into a bucket” stuff that he threw out last night was just dumb. Middle class does not need to lose the mortgage deduction, education credits or charitable contribution deduction.”
I understood that to mean, rather than specifying what deductions a household can or cannot take, that he would set a limit, say $25,000, and say ‘pick whatever deductions for which you qualify, but the most you can deduct is $25,000.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
“It’s been explained ad naseum, yet you still insist on hearing it.”
Please pardon my ignorance and link to where it has been so explained.
gadem
October 17th, 2012
3:07 pm
what is this Obama phone that Republicans keep talking about? Is it an iPhone 5 or something?
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
Benghazi was teed up for Romney last night. Romney took a big swing at it and fell on his ass.
"Keep Obama in President"....
October 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
gadem – let her tell you
http://nation.foxnews.com/tea-party/2012/10/15/tea-party-drops-hardcore-ad-starring-obama-phone-lady
Peadawg
October 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
The tolerance just ooooooozes here:
http://blogs.ajc.com/business-beat/2012/10/17/n-c-college-considers-chick-fil-a-ban/
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:09 pm
“stands @ 2:49 – Why bother? They’re going to pretend NOT to believe you or the article, or the fact that snow is cold and rain is wet, or whatever they choose to ignore on a Wednesday; so you should just save your breath.”
Umm…it wasn’t an “article”
ragnar danneskjold
October 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
Although I am a Rpmney-advocate, I do not pay much attention to the polls. They are useful only in warning a candidate that he is doing the wrong thing, or that he is doing the right thing ineffectively.
I suggest that Chauncey’s current poll distress is more reflective of questions about the Benfhazi “explanations” than anything specifically debate-related. If what appears to be true is the case, he is locked into a bad position.
southpaw
October 17th, 2012
3:10 pm
Doggone/Keep Obama
George W. Bush was the 4th President who lost the popular vote. The previous 3 were Benjamin Harrison in 1888, Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876, and John Quincy Adams in 1824. The popular vote winners were Al Gore, Samuel J. Tilden, Grover Cleveland, and Andrew Jackson, respectively.
http://americanhistory.about.com/od/uspresidents/f/pres_unpopular.htm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:11 pm
Obama still well ahead in Electoral college and these polls dont reflect the beat down he put on Romney last night.
All is well. Its still a big uphill climb for Romney and Obama’s to lose.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:11 pm
Hi DDR!!!
“True – but that doesn’t matter to some, they want any and everything to make Obama look bad. ”
That’s what it all boils down to, isn’t it? As a result, they fixate on minor issues, ignore major issues, get all tied up with their outrage and generally provide fine entertainment.
USMC
““I was referring to USMC’s “The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate.””–PAUL
Paul misses the point ”
Well, given you’ve pretty much indicated you don’t mean what you say in your first post, but have to have two or three or more posts to read the responses and modify your first post…..
still waiting on you to tell us all what the lie was and enlighten us with those military-learned assessment skills -
Matti
October 17th, 2012
3:11 pm
What is it about the arrogance inherent in the American people that we think we’re entitled to a full, undiluted intelligence briefing every morning with our grapefruit, toast, and coffee, and by golly, if we don’t have 100% of the FACTS about something that happens halfway around the world in a war-ravaged desert, where even Anderson Cooper is eskeered to tread, and where — unlike every corner of our nation — “security” cameras are not positioned every fifty feet watching every creature’s every move, that we will scream we’ve been LIED TO! “Ooooohhhh, Oooohhhhh, the indignity! The C-I-freaking-A did not tell me everything I didn’t even know I wanted to know, and them not knowing, or not wanting to reveal classified information that puts our people in danger is NO excuse! Oooooohhh, the LIES! Avenge me, Captain Magic Underpants!”
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:12 pm
92 killed at American embassies under Reagan.
33 killed at American embassies under Bush.
4 killed at American embassies under Obama.
President Obama is right. He has the BEST record of defending our embassies
USMC
October 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
Bizarre Coincidence: Democrats Get More Time in All Three Debates
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/330742/bizarre-coincidence-democrats-get-more-time-all-three-debates-katrina-trinko
Simple Truths
October 17th, 2012
3:13 pm
Wow! Jay is looking to the Rasmussen poll numbers for hope. And here I thought the Rasmussen numbers were always out of whack and favored Republicans.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
that we will scream we’ve been LIED TO!
Not “we”. Just the poo-flinging monkeys.
stands for decibels
October 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
Umm…it wasn’t an “article”
It was a comment, with a link to a MM piece that, among other things, documents what Fox and Fiends has been crying about of late.
but mostly it was to get across the point that, basically, wingers are angry that Obama didn’t say “mother may I,” or something along those lines.
weetamoe
October 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
Romney’s binders of women sounds kind of old-fashioned but the real point is that when Romney was MA governor more than half of his cabinet was women, many of them minorities and democrats, and several have praised him publicly for the working conditions under his tenure. Of course Bill Clinton has little black books instead of binders, and the Pimp with a Limp keeps Obama’s list on his Blackberry.
Best comment so far is the one about Candy leaping from the bench to tackle Mitt as he raced for a touchdown (all 347 pounds of her).
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
“If what appears to be true is the case, he is locked into a bad position.”
And that is the thing I REALLY don’t get. Why say the attack was caused by a film when the prudent and honest thing to do is just say “We think it may have been a terrorist attack but we are still getting intelligence reports” (or some such thing)? Why do it?
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
And here I thought the Rasmussen numbers were always out of whack and favored Republicans.
They are and they do. Which means that if you find a poll that’s a significant outlier, it’s worth trying to figure out why instead of putting your money on it and doubling down on the mistake.
"Keep Obama in President"....
October 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
And the first ambassador to be assassinated since 1979. Yep, the BEST record since…….Jimmy Carter.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:17 pm
How did Obama earn his millions in net worth? The pay of Community Organizers, State office, one term in the US Senate and 4 years in the White House doesn’t reward someone a value of $12-15 million.
Obama doesn’t have that much money. In fact he and his wife just paid off their student loans a few years ago.
The money they do have they earned from a couple of best selling books for which they were compensated quite well.
He certainly didn’t earn it laying off American workers and shipping jobs to China ala Romney.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
3:17 pm
weetamoe, that was Romney 1.0.
This is Romney 6.44.1011.73.
He’s the AOL candidate! A total POS but millions of people like him anyway!
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
And that is the thing I REALLY don’t get. Why say the attack was caused by a film when the prudent and honest thing to do is just say “We think it may have been a terrorist attack but we are still getting intelligence reports” (or some such thing)? Why do it?
Because there were numerous protests over the film in a number of other countries that day. So the analysts first call was that it was also related to the film and that’s what the politicians repeated… even if later it turned out to be wrong.
So here’s the counter question: should they have ignored the analysts like Cheney would have done?
tm
October 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
How can Obama only have 45%??? Romney has conceded 47% already.
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
How can Obama only have 45%??? Romney has conceded 47% already.
the poll had a margin of error… and obviously so did Romney
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
Towncrier
“Fair enough.”
Uh-oh…. USMC’s gonna unload on you for missing the point, again….
The point I was making was that Benghazi is the issue because it’s the last thing that happened. So it’s like Republicans say ‘There! Shiny object!!! Get it!!!!” when in reality they’ve just run past far shinier objects that would make their point on foreign policy weaknesses, much better.
What USMC and others don’t seem to grasp is, by their reckoning, Republicans are locked into discussing whatever the media determines is the story. They don’t demonstrate real leadership by saying ‘look, this was an unfortunate situation, but other issues are far weightier. Let’s take a minute and discuss some.”
What’s really ironic is given all the diatribes USMC and others on the Right have over the ‘liberal media’ that with his post of “All of the networks: CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc. etc. etc. are talking about the BENGHAZI comment from the debate; not only Republicans” he demonstrates that Republicans get yanked and led by whatever the liberal media decides is the important issue to focus on.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
And the first ambassador to be assassinated since 1979. Yep, the BEST record since…….Jimmy Carter.
I agree. Obama has kept people safer at our Embassies overseas.
The numbers dont lie. Thanks for agreeing.
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
“And the first ambassador to be assassinated since 1979. Yep, the BEST record since…….Jimmy Carter.”
If only Obama had been so lucky to have passenger jets slam into the Pentagon and World Trade Center killing 4,000 instead, Obama would be a shoe-in for re-election like Bush.
Rightwing Troll
October 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
“it’s worth trying to figure out why instead of putting your money on it and doubling down on the mistake.”
Wingnuts know a lot about that… 2004 proved that and now they wish to do it again…
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
“It was a comment, with a link to a MM piece that, among other things, documents what Fox and Fiends has been crying about of late.”
The linked MM piece does next to nothing to substantiate its claim there there is “no contradiction” between calling the attack a terrorist act and “mentioning” the film. Obama and Rice did not merely “mention” the film – they made it the primary cause of the attack for 2 weeks.
“…but mostly it was to get across the point that, basically, wingers are angry that Obama didn’t say “mother may I,” or something along those lines.”
When you get a truly plausible explanation for the apparent lie, let us all know. Otherwise, the sand is over there…
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
3:22 pm
Spontaneous acts of terror
in response to movies are
going to be hard to control
due to you tube being
worldwide.
Drone Google.
Erwin's cat
October 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
Cheesy @3:17
how many jobs did Romney ship to China, how many Americans did he lay-off and how many jobs did he save and or create?
you obviously know the answer or are you making baseless claims
ByteMe - Got ilk?
October 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
When you get a truly plausible explanation for the apparent lie, let us all know
actually, when the wingnuts come up with a truly plausible explanation for why the information was wrong, let us all know.
eddy
October 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
PS…Crowley had a copy of Obama’s Rose Garden transcript so that she could drop the supposed “zinger” that Obama had uttered the word “terror” on the day after the attack. Can you say “prearranged setup so that Obama could say that he did utter the word “terror”. Wonder how she knew she needed to be his teleprompter. Doesn’t really matter though…..the administration’s official position was for 15 days (go to the videotape to confirm) that the attack was caused by the film. Either they lied or are incompetent or perhaps both. Gotta love the Dems. Now let’s all say together now…”our green initiatives are a huge success” Oh I forgot, the battery maker just declared bankruptcy. Just another $250million of the taxpayers money down the drain. Obama doesn’t know how to pick a winner….only losers. November 7th will be such a great day!!!!
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
Cheesy Grits
“Obama doesn’t have that much money. In fact he and his wife just paid off their student loans a few years ago.”
We must come from different worlds. I’d kinda consider a net worth of nearly $12 million (2010) to be a bit more than ‘not that much money.”
Matti
October 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
I’m not sure why I would be convinced that the attacks and the protests were definitively mutually exclusive. Bottom line: millions of Middle-Easterners hate us, largely because of our long-standing policies of sticking our noses into their beeswax, and our boots on their sacred sands.
I think anyone who volunteers for the diplomatic corps and supporting functions knows the risks inherent to deploying to places like Benghazi. I don’t think any of them expect to be as safe as they would be in a suburban movie theater after standing in lines to pay absurd amounts of money for extremely violent “entertainment” and over-priced, trans-fat-laden heat-popped genetically-modified corn products and HFCS-based sodas to wash it all down with. Oh wait…. maybe they are safer over there. Never mind.
Ahem
October 17th, 2012
3:26 pm
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
Benghazi was teed up for Romney last night. Romney
took a big swing at it and fell on his ass.masterfully put Oblunda on record and Crowley helped Romney in a way that is being played out today as she backpeddles away from her flub.The Benghazi issue will live on and grow right up until the next debate and that is when Romney shoves the umbrella up Oblunda’s donkey and opens it.
"Keep Obama in President"....
October 17th, 2012
3:26 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please – Wrong
Most sites estimate the Obamas are worth $11.7 million.
In 2007 thee Obamas were worth about $1.7 million. He has profited handsomely during the end of the Bush administration and his first term as POTUS. He’s quite a capitalist and now qualifies in the nation’s top 1% in wealth.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
We must come from different worlds. I’d kinda consider a net worth of nearly $12 million (2010) to be a bit more than ‘not that much money.”
I meant he doesn’t have 12 million. Not that it wasn’t that much money.
Reading comprehension is tough I know. Georgia schools and all.
He is worth around 6 million according to Forbes. Just paid of school loans. Still owes on his mortgage.
Like alot of Americans.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/2012/05/16/obamas-worth-nearly-6-million-see-why-hes-down-since-last-year/
stands for decibels
October 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
the real point is that when Romney was MA governor more than half of his cabinet was women
Sadly, no.
http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/talkingpolitics/archive/2012/10/16/mind-the-binder.aspx
I will write more about this later, but for tonight let me just make a few quick additional points. First of all, according to MassGAP and MWPC, Romney did appoint 14 women out of his first 33 senior-level appointments, which is a reasonably impressive 42 percent. However, as I have reported before, those were almost all to head departments and agencies that he didn’t care about — and in some cases, that he quite specifically wanted to not really do anything. None of the senior positions Romney cared about — budget, business development, etc. — went to women.
Secondly, a UMass-Boston study found that the percentage of senior-level appointed positions held by women actually declined throughout the Romney administration, from 30.0% prior to his taking office, to 29.7% in July 2004, to 27.6% near the end of his term in November 2006. (It then began rapidly rising when Deval Patrick took office.)
Joseph
October 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
It’s over Jay… I know you fruits on the left in the media want this to be tight but it ain’t happening. The people have awaken and see what a failure he is…..
"Keep Obama in President"....
October 17th, 2012
3:28 pm
DannyX
9/11 didn’t happen in an election year but I think you knew that.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:29 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please – Wrong
Actually im right.
And you’re wrong.
Not a real shocker.
Thulsa Doom
October 17th, 2012
3:30 pm
Well that sucks! I was kinda hoping for Obama being re-elected. I figure it would be better to let him just go ahead and ruin things for another 4 years until the lesson becomes self evident to even the farthest left kooks that liberalism does not work. After 8 years of economic disaster and financial bankruptcy even they wouldn’t be able to keep playing the blame W card. Plus its always amusing to watch a complete incompetent at work- kinda like the keystone cops. Go Barry Go!
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
“The Benghazi issue will live on and grow right up until the next debate and that is when Romney shoves the umbrella up Oblunda’s donkey and opens it.”
The Benghazi issue is for the most part a figment of your imagination. If Romney again tries to use it for political gain he will whiff again. So far he is 0-2 with two strikeouts.
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
“Because there were numerous protests over the film in a number of other countries that day. So the analysts first call was that it was also related to the film and that’s what the politicians repeated… even if later it turned out to be wrong.”
Not for two weeks. And not after you have said it was a terrorist act. Mob violence is NOT terrorism.
“So here’s the counter question: should they have ignored the analysts like Cheney would have done?”
As Cheney would have done? What exactly is your point here? I want to see these alleged intelligence reports (as probably do a whole lot of people).
jms
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
64.8%! I love the precision!
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
How did Obama earn his millions in net worth?
From taking kickbacks from Haliburton when he awarded them a no-bid contract for Afghanistan/Iraq.
Oh wait! that was Cheney!!
My bad.
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
All the alternative energy
companies who get loans
must agree to buy at least
1 million copies of Obama’s
book.-Kamchak Corollary
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
Yep, Mitts love him some binders of wimmens.
This is all a precursor to selecting Newt “Serial Adulterer” Gingrich and Herman “Serial Groper” Cain as his front men to find qualified wimmens to be on the Rush Limbaugh show…
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
Joseph,
I’ve been wondering, with your penchant of calling those of us on the left “fruits”, do you cross dress? I’ve often heard that those who use those kinds of derogatory remarks are often what they call others. Is that true for you?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
the one thing you can gurantee.
The dumebr and lower the level of eduction.
The redder the state.
Obama still has a nice lead in electoral college.
If he wins Ohio its game set match.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Look at this map.
All the red states. Very low education levels.
The blue states. High levels of College Graduates.
Coincidence. No.
You can see it played out on these pages most everyday.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
I want to see these alleged intelligence reports (as probably do a whole lot of people).
Get the proper security clearance AND maybe a job as counterintel in the C.I.A. then maybe we can talk….
OBIWAN
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
I am so glad our wonderful president told us that we have gotten back all the TARP money he gave to the unions, oh wait I think we are 46 billion short, but don’t worry he said it, it must be true right? I can’t wait to buy my solar panels from Colorado, oooppps they went bankrupt on another 140 million of taxpayer money. But that’s OK, we can buy them from China since the president has a plan B, fund China to build them, thank God he is soooo smart, right, just look at his transcripts…. Oooppss can’t find them… no matter he would not lie to us just ask the Lybian ambassador… Right?
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:34 pm
“..actually, when the wingnuts come up with a truly plausible explanation for why the information was wrong, let us all know.”
I’ll take that as a round about way of conceding you have no plausible explanation. Next batter.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
3:34 pm
Good one frog!
Matti
October 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
Thulsa Doom @ 3:30,
Well bless your heart. Ever put yourself in politics? Ever worked a school board, city council, county commission? Ever advocated in a state legislature for people who can’t advocate for themselves? Ever entered a bureaucracy and tried to streamline a process or make it more effective under the primary directive of “do more with less?” while trying to figure out the nine different sets of “rules” in play? I can see how desperately you want to make a difference and do good for your community and nation before it’s too late and your creaky old bones turn to dust. DON’T WAIT! Get involved now, and then tell us how easy it is, and why people who have actually tried while you cheer or boo from the sidelines have sadly failed to meet your high standards and expectations.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:36 pm
Well that sucks! I was kinda hoping for Obama being re-elected. I figure it would be better to let him just go ahead and ruin things for another 4 years until the lesson becomes self evident to even the farthest left kooks that liberalism does not work. After 8 years of economic disaster and financial bankruptcy even they wouldn’t be able to keep playing the blame W card. Plus its always amusing to watch a complete incompetent at work- kinda like the keystone cops. Go Barry Go!
Thanks for getting on board Thulsa.
I knew you would come around.
And yes it will take more than 4 years to recover from the 8 year disaster that was Bush.
And no we aren’t going back to Bush 2.0 ( Romney )
Good for you. The fog has lifted.
Obama still has comfortable lead. If he wins Ohio Romney is toast.
No way he can win. Welcome to the winning side.
Ahem
October 17th, 2012
3:36 pm
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
“And the first ambassador to be assassinated since 1979. Yep, the BEST record since…….Jimmy Carter.”
I agree. Obama has kept people safer at our Embassies overseas.
The numbers dont lie. Thanks for agreeing.
And now we visit Mr. Logic’s classroom:
Teacher: “Ummm, let’s count from 1979 until 2012 children. Yes, that would be over 30 years. Now, subtract the number of years Oblunda has been in office. That answer tells us the maximum amount of time that Oblunda has had anything to do with embassy security and that during his watch we have four dead.”
Little Johnny: “But teacher, I thought that the White House had nothing to do with embassy security, at least that is what they said. This problem is very confusing.”
Teacher: “Don’t fret Johnny, it will all make sense on November 6th.”
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:36 pm
“Most sites estimate the Obamas are worth $11.7 million…In 2007 thee Obamas were worth about $1.7 million.”
Well…I’ll be. Imagine that. He must have some really good offshore investments
Recon 0311 2533
October 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
Regardless of who anybody wants to win it will be close right down to the wire. It will be a get out the vote contest. Be prepared to be up all night.
DannyX
October 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
“Yep, Mitts love him some binders of wimmens.”
Lol, Republicans around here will tell you Mitt knocked it out of the park with that blunder.
Political blinders for blunders.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:38 pm
Matti
“I’m not sure why I would be convinced that the attacks and the protests were definitively mutually exclusive.”
Excellent point. It’s usually a trap to respond to “here’s A and here’s B. Pick one” by picking one. It can be much more correct, as you pointed out to pick A AND B.
Cheesy Grits
“I’d kinda consider a net worth of nearly $12 million (2010) to be a bit more than ‘not that much money.”
I meant he doesn’t have 12 million. Not that it wasn’t that much money.
Reading comprehension is tough I know. Georgia schools and all.
He is worth around 6 million according to Forbes. Just paid of school loans. Still owes on his mortgage.”
Reading comprehension? How about writing clarity, as in ‘Obama doesn’t have that much money.”
Then specifying if you’re speaking of liquid assets, just assets, or net worth? So if a person has a net worth of $N million but only $10,000 in cash you’d say he ‘doesn’t have that much money?”
Then you cite $6 million to support your position, which, by the way, was headlined “Obama’s WORTH nearly $6 million.”
You should really quit when you’re not too far behind -
barking frog
October 17th, 2012
3:38 pm
Please
October 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
the one thing you can
gurantee.
The dumebr and lower the
level of eduction.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
Obimeat, did you fall down and hit your head?
The only thugs who got TARP money were the banksters and the Titans of Negligence and Criminal Malfeasance on Wall Street…
Adam
October 17th, 2012
3:40 pm
Do I get to pull the “skewed” card?
getalife
October 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
How dare you play politics with a attack
You are terrorists sympathizers
OBIWAN
October 17th, 2012
3:42 pm
JamVet, do you believe that, or are you the water boy? Check your facts…
Towncrier
October 17th, 2012
3:42 pm
“What USMC and others don’t seem to grasp is, by their reckoning, Republicans are locked into discussing whatever the media determines is the story.”
I disagree, Paul. I think people are upset by what appears to be a needless lie and what motivation could underlie such puzzling behavior.
USMC
October 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
“It’s over Jay… I know you fruits on the left in the media want this to be tight but it ain’t happening. The people have awaken and see what a failure he is…..”–Joseph
Don’t count Comrade Obama out just yet….. He still has the votes of all ILLEGAL ALIENS and DEAD PEOPLE!
It’s not over yet, but it sure isn’t the “Obama Landslide” that JAY BOOKMAN and other Leftwing Operatives were touting.
stands for decibels
October 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
Be prepared to be up all night.
I’m prepared for that, but if they call Ohio for Obama five minutes after the polls close, like last time? I’m probably turning in early.
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
3:43 pm
Go ahead obimeat, show me where unions got TARP money. (And put a bandage on that thick noggin of yours!)
Welcome to the Occupation
October 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
Divided nation.
The people are confused.
Marx. He’s more relevant today than perhaps he’s ever been.
josef
October 17th, 2012
3:45 pm
There’s an awful lot of whistling past the graveyard here. Anything can still happen. The Romany Lady still ain’t laying odds.
getalife
It seems like that attack on the school girl may have tipped the balance in Pakistan. Popular sentiment is outraged and the right wing and mainstream fundamentalists are scurrying now to make a public condemnation, but it could well be a day late and a dollar short.
kayaker 71
October 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
I’m not sure how your electoral college experts figure your boy is going to win, but here goes……
Presently, the race is as follows:
O 201
R 191
Undecided 146, to include NV, CO, IA, WI, MI, OH, PA, VA, NC, NH.
That means that Romney only needs 79 more votes to put him at 270. If you count Fl with 29, NC with 15, OH with 18, VA with 13 and NH with 4….. viola….. 270. And that’s saying that states like IA, CO and WI might be in play. So dream on libs…. this ain’t over yet, not by a long shot.
Wilbur
October 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
Obama did better than his first debate in which he pretty much played the role of President Prozac. A better debate performance will not solve his core problems.
1. His record is abysmal. People are hurting and his policies are the reason.
2 He no longer offers any hope of relieving the partisan wars in Washington, especially since he has been it’s strongest proponent. Obama is left running as a old style, hard core liberal…not that attractive.
3.Obama does not seem to actually like or care about people. Nearly four years in and Obama is still detached and aloof. Now it seems that he is not telling the truth either. We don’t like liars.
4. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars assaulting Mitt Romney. When people got to actually see him in the debate with less media filter and absent the lefty spin, they realized that they had been lied to by Obama and his allies and that Mitt is a reasonable guy with some good ideas.
Don’t get too hopeful about the next couple of weeks.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
I hope Obama loses the popular vote but wins the electoral college. That would be funny.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
I disagree, Paul. I think people are upset by what appears to be a needless lie and what motivation could underlie such puzzling behavior.
Unless you were privy to the intel, which 99% of the ones crying foul AREN’T, then how would you know what was puzzling and what wasn’t?
I think you’re just spouting off crap you heard Boottz say — I’ve yet to see you write down an original thought or opinion.
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Seen on a blog: If Romney wins, get ready for the Hunger Games in real time. We’ll have the 1% making the 99% fight to the death for food and medicine.
We can call it Romney/Ryan Games and get to watch our children kill each other for entertainment.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 17th, 2012
3:49 pm
Well, I’m sick of seeing a
big fat lard-azz librulDemocrat picked to moderate every debate. If this Crowley woman had of give Romney a couple more hours he could of come up with good answers, instead of leading with his nose right into a Obama fist four or five times.All I got to say is, if Romney wins the most votes but loses because of this Electoral Colledge thing, alot of us rednecks are going to be highly pizzed. I mean, it was OK when Bush won that way, but once is enough. It gets old real fast when you’re on the losing side of something like that.
And that poll on Nov. 6 better not be slanted toward the Democrats the way the other polls are. It won’t take much for a bunch of us Southreners to Succeed from this union.
getalife
October 17th, 2012
3:49 pm
“President Obama argued that Mitt Romney would oppose equal pay for women and block access to birth control, but Mr. Romney sought to defend his policies as better for women.”NYT.
The numbers change to our President.
He crushed mitt romney like Biden did to ryan.
The numbers will correct.
Vote.
Paul
October 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
Towncrier
” I think people are upset by what appears to be a needless lie and what motivation could underlie such puzzling behavior.”
My view is ‘lie’ is inaccurate. More like there was confusion, overlapping assessments, different timelines of information flowing upward, crossed messages and all that.
Hey USMC!
Got the post ready describing the lie?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
JamVet he didn’t say UNIONS he said UNICORNS!!
Get your story straight Jam! You LIBER-ALLLLL!!!
OBIWAN
October 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
I must apologize, 46 billion was wrong, union and banks combined adds up to more like 132 billion.
http://www.inquisitr.com/187614/132-9-billion-still-owed-to-tax-payers-from-bailout/
JamVet
October 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
People are hurting and the policies of the past five administrations are the reason.
But that just doesn’t sound as juicy does it, Wilbur?