Gallup: Romney busts out a six-point lead

Obama supporters buoyed by last night’s debate performance just got a glass of cold water in the face in the form of the latest Gallup numbers among likely voters:

Romney: 51 percent
Obama: 45 percent

That’s a considerably better number for Romney than reported by the Rasmussen tracking poll, which puts the race at Romney 49, Obama 48, well within the margin of error. Other national polls also report a tight race, with advantages for either candidate of two or three points at best.

Obama continues to hold an advantage in state-by-state polling, giving him a lead in the all-important electoral college. That explains in part why Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight continues to give him a 64.8 percent change of winning re-election. However, that advantage continues to erode as well.

The effects, if any, of last night’s showing haven’t manifested themselves yet, and won’t until the end of the week at the earliest. The final debate is Monday.

But with Election Day only three weeks from yesterday, it is anybody’s race.

– Jay Bookman

721 comments Add your comment

Georgia

October 17th, 2012
1:53 pm

Ouch. I guess Romney did win. It was the moderator!!!!!

CJ

October 17th, 2012
1:53 pm

If debates matter, and it appears that they do, Gallup will have different results in a few days. Romney won’t like them.

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
1:54 pm

Democrats are in full panic mode as the below article proves.

Despite numerous media outlets attempting to downplay the issue, Twitter exploded last night following the debate with new threats from Obama supporters to assassinate Mitt Romney if he defeats Obama in the presidential race.

As we reported yesterday, in addition to threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins, innumerable Twitter users are also making direct death threats against Romney.

The primary reason given for Obama supporters wanting to see Romney dead is the fear that he will take away food stamps.

getalife

October 17th, 2012
1:54 pm

The polls will correct right before the election for credibility just like 08.

The last two debates will move them to our President.

HDB

October 17th, 2012
1:57 pm

The state-by-state polls are the critical measure; the national polls are an overall snapshot!! Check the polls in PA, IA, WI, OH, and MI…and let’s see where the electorate really lies…….

getalife

October 17th, 2012
1:57 pm

Our President will win the last debate.

Our President will strike the terrorists in Libya.

Our President will lower unemployment in the October job report.

Our President will get patriotism after the obl movie.

Our President will win reelection.

I have no doubt.

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
1:58 pm

CJ

October 17th, 2012
1:59 pm

I have to share this quote from Erick Erickson’s post about the debate last night. Sadly, it really illustrates the depravity of many on the right–

“Several times, on the stage, Mitt Romney commanded and the President followed. Romney led the President and I think it showed to undecided voters. Romney, at one point, commanded the President shut up and sit down and the President did so like a dog told to sit. It was masterful.

To their disgrace, CNN actually hired this guys and continues to keep him on the payroll and put him on the air.

Tommy Maddox

October 17th, 2012
1:59 pm

“Our President” is fading into the past.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 17th, 2012
2:02 pm

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
1:54 pm
Democrats are in full panic mode as the below article proves.

Despite numerous media outlets attempting to downplay the issue, Twitter exploded last night following the debate with new threats from Obama supporters to assassinate Mitt Romney if he defeats Obama in the presidential race.

As we reported yesterday, in addition to threats by Obama supporters to riot if Romney wins, innumerable Twitter users are also making direct death threats against Romney.

The primary reason given for Obama supporters wanting to see Romney dead is the fear that he will take away food stamps.

.
.
.
.
Please expound.

Give us some examples.

Give us some quantities.

Compare and contrast to type and quantity that have threatened President Obama.

Oh and….Gabby Giffords.

CJ

October 17th, 2012
2:04 pm

Granny,

Please don’t feed the trolls.

Don't Tread

October 17th, 2012
2:05 pm

I’ve already registered my displeasure with the communist-in-charge at the registrar’s office. Seems there were some other people there who were eager to do the same.

Not many Democrats on the ballot…Mostly Republicans vs. Libertarians.

mm

October 17th, 2012
2:05 pm

Let’s see what they look like by the end of the week. I had a right leaning female coworker tell me this mornng that she saw Romney as an arrogant, entitled bully. She is now voting for Obama.

USA Patriot

October 17th, 2012
2:07 pm

JB – Did you happen to see the focus groups follow up after the debate? Even the group on MSNBC was more than majority for Romney. Loved the guy on the Fox focus group that voted for BHO and said BHO has bull****ing the country for the last 4 years. Seems to me the “undecided” voters are the folks that voted for BHO last time around and it isn’t looking pretty for him this time around.

Sean

October 17th, 2012
2:07 pm

Rommey wasnt doing well before the debates because many Republicans were not behind him. Now they are because his performance.

Obama did well last night, but the damage from the first is still in effect.

jd

October 17th, 2012
2:09 pm

Erick and the Wingnuts need to make up their minds — they criticize Biden for being Rude and disrespect Obama for being polite… Kind a like Romney — one day he’s to the right, and the next day he isn’t… They are making zig-zag zell look like a straight arrow!

getalife

October 17th, 2012
2:11 pm

“Binders for women is going nuts online” fox news.

hsn

October 17th, 2012
2:11 pm

Gall-up ?
Naaaaah !

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:11 pm

jd, you are living in fantasy land. Obama wasn’t criticized by the right after the first debate, however, the lunatic left were frothing they were so mad. I thought Chris Matthews would have a stroke.

g

October 17th, 2012
2:11 pm

pre-debate, and just part of a daily tracker. If in fact you count that people don’t comprehend rude and arrogant behaviour, I suspect we will be seeing a shift again soon, unless they oversample in the south, which when the finding are broken out by geography show the PTOUS still leading in all other geographic areas of the country.

indigo

October 17th, 2012
2:12 pm

I think the folks in chage of the media want to decide who the next president will be. The lust for power is almost as strong as the lust for money.

Coming out with polls several times a day and talking them into the ground is a giveaway as to motive.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:14 pm

The Damage was done in the first Debate.

While Obama did well to win STYLE points and save a little face, he cannot escape his FAILED record while in office.

Last night CNN showed polling results after the Debate of all of the sub-categories:
1) Who do you trust will do a better job on the econmy
2) ……………………………………………………….Taxes
3)…………………………………………………………Healthcare
4)…………………………………………………………Immigration
5)…………………………………………………………Yada yada yad

And Mitt Romney was DOUBLE digits ahead in every category which John King kept pointing out.

So while Obama saved some FACE….. He’s lost the RACE!

Obama = NO SUBSTANCE

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:14 pm

indigo, agreed. Polls and debates are for the weak kneed. I doubt than any informed person, left, middle or right, is truly undecided.

MANGLER

October 17th, 2012
2:16 pm

Well we now know what the women without uteruses and white men with large trust funds think.

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

Perhaps Obama would like to add “free Obamaphones” to his distinguished list of accomplishments. If he’s too busy then he could possibly persuade this person to speak for him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio&feature=player_embedded

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

Romney Busts out!! OH NOES!!

Quick get him a binder!

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

And while Candy Crowley unprofessionally came to Obama’s rescue, she actually did Romney a huge favor.

The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate. It plays right into Romney’s Dog Dish. :-)

Also, the controversy at the end of the debate last night created more focus for the issue and Obama has no where to hide. He either LIED or is INEPT…. or both.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:18 pm

Note: Gallup’s tracking poll is a 7-day poll. It’ll take about 3 days before we see a clear trend. We’ll see it in other polls first. Expect the big media companies to have at least one by tomorrow.

Here’s the other thing: the pollsters are consistently saying that the bulk of the undecideds are mostly Republican voters, which is why the numbers broke so strongly for Romney in the past week. The question is: if they’re truly “undecided” on Romney at this point, are they they motivated enough to be a truly “likely” voter?

reebok

October 17th, 2012
2:19 pm

Gallup result looks like an outlier…way skewed from anything we’ve seen lately…and I’d feel the same way if it waas showing a big lead for Obama.

Georgia

October 17th, 2012
2:20 pm

Those who saw the debate on television thought Obama won. Those who watched the debate on their Etch-a-Sketch thought Romney won.

that could explain the new poll

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:21 pm

Hmmmm, many of the libs are bashing Gallup. Maybe Holder will threaten to sue again.

jd

October 17th, 2012
2:21 pm

“Keep Obama” — no on on the right criticized Obama after the first debate — Another lie to add to the woodpile…

Check Redstate post at 12:40 am in Oct 4– you will find criticism there…

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:22 pm

Check Redstate post at

And you’re sure that doesn’t qualify as “no one”, right? :lol:

stands for decibels

October 17th, 2012
2:22 pm

That explains in part why Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight continues to give him a 64.8 percent change of winning re-election. However, that advantage continues to erode as well.

well not really–it bottomed out on the 12th, but it’s risen a bit since then. (Granted, it was last updated last night, maybe the next update will show a downturn.) Dead cat bounce? Maybe, but it’s still a projected win.

Let’s not forget what Romney has to do in the swing states to pull it off. Won’t be easy for him even if the polling stays put.

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

jd, lighten up, Francis. Some may have criticized Obama after the first debate, but most were simply thrilled at Romney’s performance. Counter that against the rage of the libs. They were vocally livid with Obama.

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
2:23 pm

Granny

The language is too filthy to be printed here but below is the link where you can find the info including there ID’s id you are really interested. I would like to point out that Gabby Giffords was shot by a liberal left wing nut. Since the truth of this has been in the media multiple times I am surprised you didn’t know that.

http://www.infowars.com/threats-to-assassinate-romney-explode-after-debate/

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:24 pm

stands for decibels

October 17th, 2012
2:24 pm

Also (I know I’ve pointed this out before) while I respect the Gallup organization, I can believe Nate’s claims of a +2.5% pro-GOP house effect, given that Gallup’s approval numbers are consistently below those of other pollsters. Not by a lot, but it’s noticeable.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/calculating-house-effects-of-polling-firms/

Goldie

October 17th, 2012
2:26 pm

Still about 3 weeks to go until Nov. 6th and we’ll see how those numbers in the Electoral College work out then!

Obama/Biden 2012! :)

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
2:28 pm

Here is another of those “skewed” right wing polls.

The University of Colorado (CU) prediction renowned for perfect accuracy will predict a popular-vote win for Mitt Romney later this month, Campus Reform has learned.

The poll has accurately predicted every presidential election since it was developed in 1980. It is unique in that it employs factors outside of state economic indicators to predict the next president.

CU Political Science Professor Dr. Michael Berry, who spoke with Campus Reform at length on Tuesday, said there is at least 77 percent chance that Romney will win the popular vote.

Professor Michael Berry from the University of Colorado told Campus Reform in an exclusive interview that there is a 77 percent chance Romney will win the popular vote.
“Our model indicates that Governor Romney has a 77 percent likelihood of winning the popular vote,” said Berry.

Mitt Romney: The Great Deformer

October 17th, 2012
2:30 pm

Is Romney really a job creator? Ronald Reagan’s budget director, David Stockman, takes a scalpel to the claims.

Bain Capital is a product of the Great Deformation. It has garnered fabulous winnings through leveraged speculation in financial markets that have been perverted and deformed by decades of money printing and Wall Street coddling by the Fed. So Bain’s billions of profits were not rewards for capitalist creation; they were mainly windfalls collected from gambling in markets that were rigged to rise.
Nevertheless, Mitt Romney claims that his essential qualification to be president is grounded in his 15 years as head of Bain Capital, from 1984 through early 1999. According to the campaign’s narrative, it was then that he became immersed in the toils of business enterprise, learning along the way the true secrets of how to grow the economy and create jobs. The fact that Bain’s returns reputedly averaged more than 50 percent annually during this period is purportedly proof of the case—real-world validation that Romney not only was a striking business success but also has been uniquely trained and seasoned for the task of restarting the nation’s sputtering engines of capitalism.
Except Mitt Romney was not a businessman; he was a master financial speculator who bought, sold, flipped, and stripped businesses. He did not build enterprises the old-fashioned way—out of inspiration, perspiration, and a long slog in the free market fostering a new product, service, or process of production. Instead, he spent his 15 years raising debt in prodigious amounts on Wall Street so that Bain could purchase the pots and pans and castoffs of corporate America, leverage them to the hilt, gussy them up as reborn “roll-ups,” and then deliver them back to Wall Street for resale—the faster the better.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/10/14/david-stockman-mitt-romney-and-the-bain-drain.html

Matti

October 17th, 2012
2:31 pm

What helped Rmoney turn the corner? Was it his keenly insightful answer to the assault ban question? (Tell young people they should be married before having a baby, because married people never shoot anybody.) Or was it the “Hot Chicks Dig Ryan” buttons they’re handing out to young women at gotta-have-a-ticket campaign rallies on college campuses? Hmm…

Joe Hussein Mama

October 17th, 2012
2:32 pm

Nate Silver’s post at 1 AM this morning indicated that viewers of the debate gave the edge to Obama.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/instant-reaction-polls-show-narrow-obama-advantage-in-second-debate/#more-36216

And in his analysis posted this afternoon, he offers a good discussion on how poll *trends* and *clusters* of poll results are more revealing than any single poll can possibly be. If you’re interested in how polls are read and interpreted (and what kinds of flaws sometimes creep in), this afternoon’s post is a good one to read, IMO.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/oct-16-can-polls-exaggerate-bounces/#more-36238

Georgia

October 17th, 2012
2:32 pm

We finally get a real time poll result and the demographic experts on this board are predicting the results of future polls.

Surely they all watched the debate on their Etch-a-Sketch. Romney leads. Period. I also thought it was a win for Obama, but apparently the voters dont agree.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

I also thought it was a win for Obama, but apparently the voters dont agree.

Well, no, the voters agree. Where did you get the idea they don’t? From the gallup poll that’s a 7-day average that was last taken BEFORE the debate? Or do you have other numbers?

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

The best description I have seen regarding undecided voters and how they might vote was this example. Say you and your wife have been married for three and a half years and you ask her if she will stay married to you and she says, I don’t know, I am undecided. Think about it.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

getalife:

“Our President will strike the terrorists in Libya.”

There are no terrorists in Libya. Jay said so.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:34 pm

Well, no, the votersdon’t agree

I’m sure it was the keyboard’s fault.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:35 pm

Well, no, the votersdon’t agree

Never mind. I had it right the first time! LOL.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:36 pm

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:36 pm

Georgia, polls are often touted by the base constituents. Do you anyone who was moved from their voting preference by either of the debates? I don’t. Those persons who were for Romney 2 weeks ago are still for him while those planning to vote for Obama are still planning on doing so.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:36 pm

The best description I have seen regarding undecided voters and how they might vote was this example.

Well, you’re pushing the bar higher for “stupidest comment today” at least.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 17th, 2012
2:36 pm

“CNN’s Candy Crowley admits Mitt Romney ‘was right in the main’ when he called out President Obama’s claim that he immediately called the deadly attack on the Libyan consulate a terrorist act — though she first agreed with Obama and cut short Romney’s response.”

Georgia

October 17th, 2012
2:37 pm

It doesn’t matter. History will see a black president in america only seven score and four years after the civil war. That it’s only for one term seems appropriate. In a generation, a hispanic female will probably be president, and then shortly after that a Cheyenne Indian will be president, (but for only 48 moons).

So what?

Steve-USA

October 17th, 2012
2:37 pm

I will wait until Nov. 6, I expect that poll to be the most accurate.

Erwin's cat

October 17th, 2012
2:37 pm

stands for dB’s – Dead cat bounce?

uh hmmm – did you open the box?

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:37 pm

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

October 17th, 2012
2:37 pm

MR: Democrats are in full panic mode as the below article proves.

Good. I hope all those panicky Democrats get out and vote and take others to the polls.

VOTE OR DIE.

We have to make the choice and we need to take action. If Mitt Abdominal Romney gets in; then Democrats are to blame for allowing another war hawking republican to get to the adult table.

southpaw

October 17th, 2012
2:38 pm

Georgia -
The antenna on my Etch-a-Sketch broke. Any idea where to find either a replacement antenna (for the Etch-a-Sketch; I’ve got one for the TV) or a replacement Etch-a-Sketch? I need the one with an antenna, not without.

DannyX

October 17th, 2012
2:38 pm

Look at the cross tabs of the Gallup poll and it is not nearly as good for Republicans as it seems.

East 52 48 O+4
Midwest 52 48 O+4
South 39 61 R+22
West 53 47 O+6

Boris Badnoff

October 17th, 2012
2:38 pm

Indeed, impartiality was epitomized in this debate. Mittens was told by The Moderator that he was not going to be permitted to use any words that start with L or T or end in a vowel or consonant. Our Beloved Messiah was told that he would not be permitted to refer to the Peloponnesian War or the Eta Carina nebula unless specifically mentioned in a Star Trek episode starring Whoppi Goldberg. The one question that most viewers had was who decided that the moderator for this debate was going to be Meatloaf?

stands for decibels

October 17th, 2012
2:39 pm

uh hmmm – did you open the box?

Don’t we all get sucked into a black hole if that happens? Or am I thinking of an episode of the Outer Limits?

bullwinkle

October 17th, 2012
2:39 pm

Romney’s a financial salesman/deal-maker and he’s in our living room closing this one. It’s gonna be an interesting next four years.

Steve-USA

October 17th, 2012
2:39 pm

Mighty Righty@2:26

One problem, the election is not based on popular vote.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:40 pm

Look at the cross tabs of the Gallup poll

Nah, not even the pollsters care about a national poll at this point. It’s all down to state-by-state polls in about 8 states at this point. That’s where the real action is. Everything else is just noise put out by the machine.

gm

October 17th, 2012
2:40 pm

Ohio, Florida, Va only matters, these states have people who look what this President has done by saving this country from collaps, sorry Georgia conservatives hateful people, you will always be a none factor in everthing, and last in every thing, because your history of racist, bigtory over shadows anything you do.

willie lynch

October 17th, 2012
2:40 pm

What will Romney’s re-hash of the Bush policies get us the second time around?

Towncrier

October 17th, 2012
2:41 pm

Anyone care to explain how one (namely Obama) can know the attack on the consulate was a terrorist act the day following but then contend for two weeks it was the result of a “spontaneous” reaction to a film? I am all ears.

0311/8541/5811/1811/1801

October 17th, 2012
2:41 pm

If Obama wins I predict he will nominate Crowley for the Supreme Court. Wasn’t she wearing a black robe last night?

I also nominate her for the “Dan Rather Integrity in Journalism” award.

Doggone/GA

October 17th, 2012
2:41 pm

“One problem, the election is not based on popular vote”

I would say that it is based on the popular vote…but it’s not reliant on it.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:43 pm

CBS POST-DEBATE POLL: ROMNEY WALLOPS OBAMA ON ECONOMY 65-34%
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/16/CBS-Debate-Poll-Romney-Wins-on-Economy

—Most damaging for Obama! He cannot shake his dismal record…

Mitt Romney= Captain of Industry

Obama= Inexperiencedn& Naive Marxist who has NEVER had to make a payroll… AND IT SHOWS. :-)

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

October 17th, 2012
2:43 pm

What helped Rmoney turn the corner?

Probably because, like I said before, not everyone’s voice is heard during these “polls”.

the only one that counts is the one at the voting booth.

ByteMe - Got ilk?

October 17th, 2012
2:43 pm

USMC is in “poo-flinging monkey” mode today.

Steve-USA

October 17th, 2012
2:43 pm

Dog-

Correct. Your word was a better choice.

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
2:44 pm

There will be a poll on November 6, 2012. It will be the final poll. There are plenty of polls that indicate a Romney victory and a few that think Obama will win. That could change tommorrow. Anyone who thinks this race is over one way or another should put away their bong pipes and quit sniffing glue and try to get a reality check.

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:44 pm

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

October 17th, 2012
2:46 pm

Anyone care to explain how one (namely Obama) can know the attack on the consulate was a terrorist act the day following but then contend for two weeks it was the result of a “spontaneous” reaction to a film? I am all ears.

Tell your hypocritical, 9/11 NOT Bush’s fault, ears to get a hearing aide.

===================================

to Scout – What do YOU KNOW about integrity?

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:46 pm

Doggone/GA – good distinction. What’s it been, twice, that the popular vote leader didn’t win the presidency?

Towncrier

October 17th, 2012
2:46 pm

“If Obama wins I predict he will nominate Crowley for the Supreme Court.”

I will stipulate that the RNC seems almost dumb when it comes to what it will allow in debates (like having people like Matthews moderate one of their primary debates. Inexplicable, really. They should make moderators sign legal contracts in order to moderate debates. Then they would be accountable.

gm

October 17th, 2012
2:46 pm

Does the Poll take in two account Obama has open up a 30 point lead among Latinos?, after showing how much he care about women rights, I am sure Obama will have more women on his side.

DannyX

October 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

” It’s all down to state-by-state polls in about 8 states at this point. ”

That is true, and is exactly why the geographical breakdown of the Gallup poll is so important. The good ol’ south makes it seem like Romney has a huge lead, (+22 in the south for Romney.) Break it down to individual states and Romney’s lead disappears.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

The Demwits right about now are grabbing every Illegal Alien and Dead Body they can find to steal the election for Obama. :-)

Towncrier

October 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

“Tell your hypocritical, 9/11 NOT Bush’s fault, ears to get a hearing aide.”

ROFL. I’ll take that as a no – you can’t explain it.

Paul

October 17th, 2012
2:47 pm

As noted, national is one thing, state by state is another, city and precinct another. It’s the lower levels where the candidates are focusing.

USMC

“The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate. It plays right into Romney’s Dog Dish.”

Rather sad that of four years events, Benghazi is the best Republicans can come up with to make an issue of. Especially given Nordstrom’s testimony yesterday to Rep Issa that even if they’d gotten every bit of security assistance requested, it would not have prevented the outcome.

Scout

“There are no terrorists in Libya. Jay said so.”

There’s a three-letter word that describes that assertion. Your only way out is to plead ignorance. On that, we’d believe you.

Mick

October 17th, 2012
2:48 pm

usmc

Gomer the lesser mixing it up with all the wrong ingrediates equals one bad jarhead shake..it’s good for him though because it helps stave off all those paris island flashbacks where he excelled in pushing up the earth thus keeping us in a correct elliptical orbit around the sun…

Erwin's cat

October 17th, 2012
2:49 pm

Anyone who thinks this race is over one way or another should put away their bong pipes and quit sniffing glue and try to get a reality check.

what’s a bong pipe?….maybe a hukka?

stands for decibels

October 17th, 2012
2:49 pm

DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman

October 17th, 2012
2:50 pm

Mitt Romney= Captain of Industry Outsourcing………

Towncrier

October 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

“Rather sad that of four years events, Benghazi is the best Republicans can come up with to make an issue of.”

Do you mind sharing your evidence that this is the only foreign policy “issue” Republicans have spoken out about?

Mighty Righty

October 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

What will Romney’s re-hash of the Bush policies get us the second time around?

The Bush policies gave us unemployment on average of less than 6%, gasoline prices of less than $2.00 a gallon and 5 million more people working than Obama’s policies have. In addition, the Bush policies resulted in millions fewer on food stamps and welefare. His policies also resulted in real family income of $4500 per family more, fewer jobs sent over seas, and 5 trillion dollars in less debt. Yea, I would love to return to the Bush policies and years. I bet Obama wished he could run on those numbers.

"Keep Obama in President"....

October 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

Paul – what’s even sadder is that after 4 years the best “accomplishment” Obama can come up with is that Romney is rich.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

“Rather sad that of four years events, Benghazi is the best Republicans can come up with to make an issue of. Especially given Nordstrom’s testimony yesterday to Rep Issa that even if they’d gotten every bit of security assistance requested, it would not have prevented the outcome.”

You can whine about it all you want Paul, but more intelligent people realize the significance of the Obama Administration’s LIE about Benghazi.

Obama doesn’t get Affirmative Action or some sort of Hall Pass when the AMBASSADOR is killed.
He blamed a YOUTUBE video. He either LIED or is INEPT… or both. No way around it.

stands for decibels

October 17th, 2012
2:52 pm

what’s a bong pipe?

It’s, like, those Scottish things, but trippier, mannnn…

Thomas Heyward Jr.

October 17th, 2012
2:53 pm

Imagine…………………………………………………Mitt Romney with THE Secret Kill list and the Indefinite Detention powers of the NDAA…
.
Thanks a pant-load………………………Obama-Bots.

USMC

October 17th, 2012
2:54 pm

“Gomer the lesser mixing it up with all the wrong ingrediates equals one bad jarhead shake..it’s good for him though because it helps stave off all those paris island flashbacks where he excelled in pushing up the earth thus keeping us in a correct elliptical orbit around the sun…”–Mickey Mouse

You know Mick, if you smoke too much of that stuff, it will stunt your growth. :-)

Paul

October 17th, 2012
2:55 pm

Towncrier

“Do you mind sharing your evidence that this is the only foreign policy “issue” Republicans have spoken out about?”

I never said it is the only foreign policy issue of which Republicans have spoken.

I was referring to USMC’s “The next debate is on Foreign Policy and between now and then the BENGHAZI issue will grow and grow and be tee’d up for Romney at the next debate.”

Towncrier

October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

“The last thing I’m likely to post for the benefit of our butthurt-over-Benghazi guys…”

Please do honor this promise (as your response was a link to a silly and meaningless post).

anon1

October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

USMC is the classic blogger who watched the debates and saw what he saw through his “predisposed views” colored glasses.
If Romney would actually say what he would do to close loopholes for tax deductions for the middle class, I might listen to his plan. The “put it into a bucket” stuff that he threw out last night was just dumb. Middle class does not need to lose the mortgage deduction, education credits or charitable contribution deduction.

Ahem

October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

Georgia

October 17th, 2012
2:20 pm
Those who saw the debate on television thought Obama won. Those who watched the debate on their Etch-a-Sketch thought Romney won.

that could explain the new poll

and a comment like the above defies explanation

Mick

October 17th, 2012
2:56 pm

mighty

You definitely know whats in the bong pipe cuz you are about the only one who wants a repeat of the bush economy that led to ? Yes, if it was so great why don’t your fellow conned rally around junior and prop him up as the gold standard? You know the answer – epic fail…