Encouraging economic data, from sources public and private
Last week, a better-than-expected jobs report inspired scoffing among those to whom good economic news is bad political news, including suggestions that the government numbers had somehow been cooked as part of a political conspiracy.
That doesn’t seem to have been the case, as economic data continue to surprise on the upside, from government as well as private economic sources, and across economic sectors:
The economy is improving more than professional forecasters anticipated, particularly in data on employment and housing, according to the Bloomberg Economic Surprise Index, which compares 38 indicators with analysts’ predictions. The index, based on gauges compiled by private businesses and trade groups in addition to government, confirms U.S. growth is generating jobs in the face of a global slowdown and looming federal spending cuts and tax increases known as the fiscal cliff.
“The economy is improving, and the labor market is getting better,” said Robert Brusca, president of Fact & Opinion Economics and a former New York Fed economist. “These numbers are what they are, they’re not being slanted. On a scale of one to 10, the economy is at a fairly firm six and may be heading higher….”
From Reuters, on consumer sentiment:
The Thomson Reuters/University of Michigan’s preliminary October reading on the overall index on consumer sentiment came in at 83.1, up from 78.3 the month before, and the highest since September 2007, the survey showed on Friday.
The new buoyancy among consumers comes shortly after the U.S. unemployment rate tumbled to its lowest in nearly four years in September as more people returned to the workforce and found jobs than economists had predicted.
“We are getting some quite interesting signals from consumer sentiment and employment data – both (the) unemployment rate and initial claims – that there has been some quite significant improvement in the economy,” said David Sloan, an economist at 4Cast in New York.
From the Census Bureau on retail sales:
WASHINGTON — Retail sales rose a larger-than-expected 1.1% in September as consumers shook off fears of looming economic problems and continued to boost their spending after pulling back earlier this year.
The new data Monday came as the Commerce Department revised August’s increase in retail sales to 1.2% from the earlier estimate of 0.9%. That meant the rise in August was the largest monthly gain since October 2010.
Economists had expected a 0.8% increase in September, according to a survey by Bloomberg. Retail sales last month were up 5.4% from a year earlier. Sales for the three-month period ending in September were up 4.8% from the same quarter in 2011.
From Business Insider, on housing:
Despite some nagging doubts that have remained over the U.S. housing market, consensus is that housing has turned the corner and is recovering.
In his latest note titled The Housing Recovery Is For Real, Deutsche Bank’s Joseph LaVorgna writes that the “residential housing market is in the very early stages of a durable recovery.”
LaVorgna says this recovery in housing is important because housing is what led the U.S. economy into a recession, and is part of the reason the recovery has been so slow. Moreover, as “a leading indicator of underlying domestic demand,” any improvement in housing suggests that underlying domestic demand should improve as well. From Lavorgna:
‘…. At minimum, the strength in residential construction suggests it is unlikely that underlying domestic demand will weaken further. This provides us with some comfort that the recent sub-par performance in the economy is not long lasting and that over time, domestic demand will strengthen, perhaps as concern over Europe fades a bit and the “fiscal cliff” is adequately dealt with.’ “
From Fitch Ratings, on housing construction:
Fitch Ratings raised its projection for single-family starts and new-home sales this year, but warned housing growth could be somewhat less robust in 2013.
The ratings company expects single-family housing starts to improve about 19% in 2012, with new-home sales and existing-home sales increasing 19.5% and 8.5%, respectively.
Fitch, last month, forecast a 12% rise in single-family housing starts, 10.5% growth in new-home sales and a 5.6% bump in existing-home sales.
Fitch said the year-over-year gains for single-family starts and new-home sales earlier this year have sustained momentum. Meanwhile, seasonally adjusted statistics for single-family starts, new homes and existing-home sales have also been advancing most months.
From Ward’s Automotive Group, the auto industry newsletter, reporting a surge in fourth-quarter auto production in North America:
Hot on the heels of an estimated 20,300-unit September production shortfall, North American car and truck assembly plants are embarking on an even more robust fourth-quarter program than the one put in place a month ago.
Although Ford has not yet revealed what revisions it has in store for October-December, the rest of the industry already has boosted production plans by some 53,900 units for the period.
The bulk of the increase is set to occur this month with 61,700 units added to the October slate, some of which likely were deferred from September and some pulled forward from December’s plan, now 16,400 units lower than it was a month ago.
But, even assuming the entire September and December downward volume adjustments are included in this month’s higher schedule, that still means an additional 16,700 vehicles in the October boost, on top of which some 8,600 units have been added to the November plan.
The largest Q4 increase comes from General Motors, up 18,500 units, mostly cars, including gains of 26,000 in October and 3,000 in November, followed by a 10,500-unit cut in its December slate…
Incorporating the revised outlook, North American plants now are in line to build some 15,692,200 cars and trucks this year, up 16.5% from 2011’s 13,471,500 completions.
– Jay Bookman
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The GOV
October 15th, 2012
7:14 pm
That’s pretty good Jay! (Laughing)
I still did not get a “haruumph” out of that guy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
7:14 pm
RUSH: Well, depends on what the final week polls are. If the final week poll has Obama winning by ten in Ohio and Romney wins it, you got riots. If the polls tighten and they get real close, then I don’t — it was a legitimate question somebody asked because these people, if they’re told, these rabid leftists, if they are told this a slam dunk and it’s over, and Romney wins this thing, it could get bloody out there.
Repeated violence porn.
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:16 pm
“yeah, but that’s because usually, the fish isnt’ TRYING to get caught.
Here’s USMC:”–JAY
That was friggin hilarious Jay, regardless of your politics, that was funny!
Pasha “Bookman” Strelnikov Fighting for SOCIAL JUSTICE…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXKHTTzayU
Dharma Bum
October 15th, 2012
7:17 pm
YouLibs,
Dogs squabbling is endearing and cute… when humans do it, not so much
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:19 pm
“The cons prove Biden right.”
Biden proves liberals wrong. Here is a former lawyer who doesn’t seem to know that guffawing, rolling your eyes and constantly interrupting you opponent (82 times in all) does NOT logically win arguments. That’s works on a school playground (with pre-logically minded children), but no where else. It especially doesn’t work when you are trying, by that behavior, to create the impression that your opponent is a liar when you yourself are misrepresenting the truth.
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
I just want someone to explain how an administration spent a week at a convention proclaiming GM is alive and you know who is dead and then have State department personnel watch on real time the murder of our citizens, then let our UN ambassador go on TV a week after the attack and blame it on a movie and have our Justice department detain and interview the movie producer,I guess he was more focus on the campaign function in Vegas. Yes I will agree for now it was not a “fund raiser”. Maybe some smart reporter could get one of those awards by showing why this administration could not come out and saw we were attacked on foreign soil by the enemy.
josef
October 15th, 2012
7:21 pm
getalife
“Israeli parliament dissolves for early election” AP
Hmmmm…what WILL happen if Bibi and Barack BOTH get a vote of no-confidence at the ballot box. We’ve got a pretty clear picture of what will happen if they DO. What if it’s Mitt dealing with Tzipi Livni?
Things could get interesting…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
7:22 pm
That’s works on a school playground (with pre-logically minded children), but no where else.
It’s got your underoos in a bunch.
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:22 pm
Report: White House considering retaliatory Libya strike
http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/report-white-house-considering-retaliatory-libya-strike-138511.html
I guess Obama has the JOY STICK at the ready with hot pockets and popcorn.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Well, depends on what the final week polls are. If the final week poll has Obama winning by ten in Ohio and Romney wins it, you got riots. If the polls tighten and they get real close, then I don’t — it was a legitimate question somebody asked because these people, if they’re told, these rabid leftists, if they are told this a slam dunk and it’s over, and Romney wins this thing, it could get bloody out there.”
They will be particularly mad if Romney is “acquitted” (through being elected by a jury of his peers) of the “charges” against him – close polls or no.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:23 pm
Smirkin,
When a pol goes in front of the world and tells them the gop are full of crap and laughs in the face when they lie, it don’t get no better than that.
YouLibs
October 15th, 2012
7:24 pm
If one rejects any aspect of reality one cannot know the Dharma.
Before the Bush/Gore election, I asked my mentor (who was born in Tibet) if Americans were too obsessed about elections.
His response was that a question like that could only come from someone who had always been able to vote.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:25 pm
usmc,
There will be drone justice in Libya.
You call that weak.
You are full of crap.
The GOV
October 15th, 2012
7:26 pm
A Marine using emoticons! Say it ain’t so…
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:27 pm
“I guess Obama has the JOY STICK at the ready with hot pockets and popcorn.” Good for him its better than eating popcorn and blaming a movie.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:27 pm
“It’s got your underoos in a bunch”
I am afraid I don’t know what that mindlessly cliched expression really means. Only that it is somewhat scatological and therefore probably humorous to you
josef
October 15th, 2012
7:28 pm
USMC
Okay, so we’re getting ready to drone ‘em…pretty quick work in identifying them…must be some pretty good intelligence on the ground in Libya…reckon it might be the friends the Obama policy made?
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
7:29 pm
I guess some businesses didn’t get the Koch-crook letter about how Obama is bad for the economy.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:30 pm
“reckon it might be the friends the Obama policy made?”
Yes.
mitt’s policy is to go crazy and play politics.
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:31 pm
Billy… Take Me to The River…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WC6EbRQmJ0
Wilbur
October 15th, 2012
7:32 pm
The jobs data is best described as “stranger than expected”. Hardly better.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:32 pm
“When a pol goes in front of the world and tells them the gop are full of crap and laughs in the face when they lie, it don’t get no better than that.”
Wrong. I find a poster whose mastery of his native language indicts his very claims to be much more amusing and pathetic – especially when he is the one defending classless behavior by a sitting VP. You make my argument simply by being.
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:32 pm
“mitt’s policy is to go crazy and play politics.”–Getalife
You get a HALL PASS today since your Tigers beat the Gamecocks!
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:35 pm
smirkin,
Joe crushed him. You bought the media bs.
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:36 pm
“reckon it might be the friends the Obama policy made?” yes I think those are the ones who allowed and killed our people. So much for friends
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
“Okay, so we’re getting ready to drone ‘em…pretty quick work in identifying them…must be some pretty good intelligence on the ground in Libya…reckon it might be the friends the Obama policy made?”–Josef
Who knows, but what we DO know is that the Obama White House either:
1) LIED to the American people…
OR
2) Are INCOMPETENT
OR
3) All of the Above
They blamed a freakin YOUTUBE video…
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:37 pm
“The jobs data is best described as “stranger than expected”. Hardly better.”
Depends on how you “spin” it. Sometimes a statistical “aberration” (as the 7.8 figure was said to be by some) means we should feel good about our progress and re-elect Obama!
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
7:38 pm
Riots…… Will there be riots after Romney beats Bozo? Perhaps the same kind that happened in CA when Rodney King was beaten. Perhaps Watts will erupt as it did in the 70s. Think there will be riots if Bozo wins? Think that all of those Tea Party brown shirts will take to the streets? Nope. The only segment that promotes violence as part of their platform are liberals. If they don’t get their way then they think that it is perfectly alright to demonstrate in a violent manner to make their point. Let a Tea Party contingent do that and the media world implodes. The double standard is alive and well.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
7:39 pm
I am afraid I don’t know what that mindlessly cliched expression really means.
If only there was a device — one that someone could type a query in some search field — that was connect to other devices that would offer a series of explanations….
A shame that such a device has not been invented.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:39 pm
General Clark did a good job of getting the facts on Libya.
1. gop cut their funding over 300 million.
2. mitt went beserk and played politics.
3. gop outed the CIA building.
You will see these facts in the next debate.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:41 pm
“Joe crushed him. You bought the media bs.”
Actually, many in the “media” thought it was a draw. And, as the SNL skit joked, the debate was inconsequential anyway (except for, perhaps, the bad taste Biden’s childishness left in people’s mouth). I am surprised you can even post.
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:41 pm
71 all you have to do is look at the different responses to Chick fillet to prove your point
USMC
October 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
“Joe crushed him. You bought the media bs.”–Getalife
Hooked!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqhp7LBLmcE
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Get a life- you forgot to add- Obama blamed it all on a movie. So how is it the GOP’s fault
josef
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
moonbat
I”VE noodled…not a good idea in an environment infested with snapping turtles and moccasins… say, one like the blog…
TM
Are you really that out of touch with what’s going in in Libya? I swear, the anti-Obama lot is so blinded by their partisanship that they’d gladly sacrifice out best chance yet of making a difference for the best to further their own agenda…it’s hard to tell who wants Libya to fail most, Al Qaaeda or the GOP radical rightists…as I said earlier, politics do, indeed, make for strange bedfellows…
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Will there be riots after Romney beats Bozo?
Only Mitt would attack kayaker’s clown.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
smirkin,
You are not smarter than any other blogger.
Don’t even try to pretend you are.
Got it?
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:47 pm
Josef- it seems you still believe that Libya was a result of a movie because that is what we we told
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
TM, 7:41,
The CEO of Chick Filet expressed his opinion on a social issue. He was then inundated with protests from liberals. How dare he express an opinion, say liberals. He must be some kind of right wing kook to be able to do that in a free country. How dare he say that he believes that marriage should be between a man and a woman. That’s just plain heresy. Why, he must be some kind of homophobe, some kind of right wing monster. Hell, he has no right to an opinion, especially if it differs from liberal spin. Only liberals have a right to an opinion.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
“If only there was a device — one that someone could type a query in some search field — that was connect to other devices that would offer a series of explanations….A shame that such a device has not been invented.”
If only there were intelligent liberal poster who understood that a vernacular expression that cannot be accurately sourced and properly defined is essentially a mindless cliche. It’s a shame that no such liberal poster exists:
http://www.theblog.ca/panties-knot
Don't Tread
October 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
So on a scale of 1 to 10, we’re a good solid 6.
I suppose if we let 0bama spend another 16T and take some freedoms away we can make it to 7. Quick, throw a party!
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:50 pm
tm,
The CIA never tells the truth.
New to politics?
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:52 pm
71 I agree with you 100% I just thought it was agood example
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
7:53 pm
Cons still think we invaded Iraq for wmds and terrorists and that the war didn’t cost anything until Obama took office.
josef
October 15th, 2012
7:53 pm
TM
What makes it seem that? I never believed that the consulate attack was any such thing. Not from the minute I first heard about it. I can see why some would, given that the Islamic world was in a dither over it at the time.
And you say Libya was the result…that was an attack in Benghazi by a group of terrorists IN Libya, well planned and well thought out and highly successful…LIBYANS made it clear very quickly and very poignantly that this was not THEIR country and THEIR revolution and THEIR people…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
7:54 pm
Actually, many in the “media” thought it was a draw.
Actually, when even powerline calls it for Biden “draw” doesn’t even enter into it.
Frankly, I expected much more from Ryan, and he let us down. A disengaged viewer would have seen Joe Biden as the much more forceful, much more knowledgeable candidate. Worse, Biden’s victory gives the Democratic media exactly what they were looking for: an opportunity to declare the beginning of the Obama comeback. This was a needless defeat; I could easily come up with more than 100 individuals who do not hold public office but would have done a better job than Ryan did tonight. It was a big disappointment. Let’s just hope that Biden overplayed his hand and TV viewers thought he was a weirdo. And let’s hope that no one votes based on the VP candidate. Advantage, Democrats.
FURTHER UPDATE: One more thing–for what it is worth, Sarah Palin did a much better job against Joe Biden in 2008 than Paul Ryan did tonight. Bizarre, but true.
And, as the SNL skit joked, the debate was inconsequential anyway (except for, perhaps, the bad taste Biden’s childishness left in people’s mouth).
Classic sour grapes.
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
7:54 pm
The Dixie Chicks called and wanted to let the cons know that they’re still mad as hell at you bunch of hypocrites.
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
get a life– not new but if you try to throw the CIA under the bus, its generally not a good move. Do you blame them foe not reporting the real time attack video??.
JamVet
October 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
This nation is recovering in fits and spurts from the second worst economic implosion in its 225 year history.
And the very worst of our Bush Republicans desperately pretend that it was no big deal. Just another market correction, if you will.
Though the devastation still surrounds them.
Hopeless.
Gutless.
Clueless.
And why their despicable, sovereignty sell out (Corporations are people, my friend) of a candidate is going to go down in defeat shortly.
And there will be much celebration by this American when he does.
…that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom — and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:56 pm
Josef– You calling Obama a liar??
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
tm,
Just making stuff up proves Biden right.
You are full of it and got nothing.
Mark in mid-town
October 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
Jay Bookman writes: “We have 500,000 plus more private sector jobs today than when Obama took office.”
———————————————————————————————————————————————
Considering the population of the country has grown by about 10 million or so since Obama took office, nominal private sector job growth of 500,000 is really a relative decrease in private sector jobs of several million. Let’s remember that we’re about 8,000,000 fewer employed than what Obama Administration predicted would be the case at this moment in time when they were pushing their stimulus. That 8 million additional jobs projection incorporated both population growth as well as a recovery of the jobs lost during the recession. As well, median family income has decreased by about $4,000 since Obama took office. It’s been an abysmal record. But to many Obama apologists on the left, the fact that the recovery has been so abysmal is evidence of just how rough Obama had it. When reality it that the abysmal strength of the recovery is evidence of nothing more than how ineffective Obama’s policies have been in facilitating recovery.
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
7:58 pm
“Actually, when even powerline calls it for Biden “draw” doesn’t even enter into it.”
Yep…I suppose using mindless cliches fits in rather well with generalizing from a single instance. The sand is right over there…
They BOTH suck
October 15th, 2012
7:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UHAcClxxKM
TM
October 15th, 2012
7:59 pm
get a life= If you got no facts call them a liar. Kinda like the first debate
They BOTH suck
October 15th, 2012
7:59 pm
Jm
How is it going?
getalife
October 15th, 2012
7:59 pm
tm,
Did you watch the hearing when your party outed the CIA building?
Point of order! Shut down this hearing.
The CIA will get them back..
Smirkin' Joe
October 15th, 2012
8:00 pm
Later…I have to go admire my fading Obama poster…
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
8:01 pm
Of course, all of those protestors in WI who occupied the Capital and left enough debris and left over trash to cost the state over 100K for clean up……. hell, that’s OK. They are liberal protestors. Then those Occupy people all over the US and some in Europe, with fornicating in tents in the parks, crapping on police cars and interfering with businesses …… hell, that’s OK. They are liberal protestors. Then that black thug in PA at the poling place that intimidated white voters by hitting a billy club into his hand and making speeches about killing white babies…. hell, that’s OK. They are liberal protestors. But let one conservative voice an opinion about most anything that is not on the liberal agenda and you might have thought that the world came to an end. The liberal media goes crazy, Bookman has another anti conservative thread to run and all of Bookman’s liberal sheep can chew on the red meat once again. Level playing field? Right.
JamVet
October 15th, 2012
8:01 pm
Smirkin’ meat, don’t bother coming back.
You offer nothing but Bush love…
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:02 pm
TM
No, misinformed and too quick to comment…but, remember, he is OUR president and judging from the comments hereabouts, pretty much represents us…
TM
October 15th, 2012
8:03 pm
so
“get a life” the question is easy- when UN Ambasador came out a week after the attacked and blamed the movie was she telling the truth???
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
8:04 pm
Ryan’s best lyin’ was no match for Joe’s experience. Joe took the Republipunk down for the count.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:04 pm
Typical con bs.
Weak and pitiful.
They BOTH suck
October 15th, 2012
8:05 pm
Jam
I could be wrong, but I thought Smirkin was Jm.
They BOTH suck
October 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
Jam
Check out that Deep Purple jam I posted
TM
October 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
Josef—and some president in the 70s was misinformed about a certain break in.
TaxPayer
October 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
When Broun said the earth is 9000 years old, did he know he was lying.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:06 pm
Hillary Clinton takes the blame for Libya.
Happy cons?
JamVet
October 15th, 2012
8:07 pm
When Mitt “I was completely wrong” Romney came out before the attack and blamed the American personnel overseas for sympathizing with their attackers was he telling the truth, TM?
He should have his ass kicked by the serving family members of those people for saying sh*t like that.
Seriously
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
8:08 pm
Later…I have to go admire my fading Obama poster…
Translation: When life gives you sour grapes, make sour grape-ade.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:08 pm
I think Hillary will resign and retire like she said.
TM
October 15th, 2012
8:12 pm
I don’t think Hillary would have made such a statement if she and Bill didn’t know that Obama was going to lose.
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
8:12 pm
Now, Crowley says that she will “cull” questions to each candidate from the audience from some reason. Wonder why?
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:12 pm
TM
Oy! So now Obama was in on some “conspiracy?” Really, Mec, that’s a bit of a stretch even for Sooth…a bumble-fumble, probably, but a conspiracy? I hardly think so.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:12 pm
Why kay?
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
We are about to lose the best Secretary of State in history.
She is done.
getalife
October 15th, 2012
8:15 pm
cnn reports that Hillary took the blame for Libya tm.
Try to keep up.
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
8:16 pm
getalife, 8:14,
Perhaps not the best but one of the best. If she were president, you liberals wouldn’t have your panties all in a wad.
Orange12
October 15th, 2012
8:17 pm
“Hillary Clinton takes the blame for Libya.
Happy cons?”
NO, I wanted our Pres. to take the blame. After all it is his admin. Isn’t it
stands for decibels
October 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
“Dowd’s a self-indulgent hack, Josef. ”
I think you are far too kind, Jay.
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
Orange 12, 8:17,
Bozo does not take the blame for anything,,,,,, haven’t you noticed?
JamVet
October 15th, 2012
8:18 pm
BOTH, b-troll in all of his equally moronic iterations needs to go to Singapore.
Maybe this election will send some of the Uncle Sam haters scurrying to some religious/conservative country more to their liking.
Diggin’ on the Deep Purple.
Some righteous Neil for the would-be earth killers in the right wing…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJOAlmHzHr4
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:19 pm
well, well, here I come agreeing with Kayaker and getalife agreeing with Kayaker and getalife…I’ll go with Kayaker on maybe not the best, but I’d rank her in the top five SOSs…
barking frog
October 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
If Clinton provided wrong intel to the President, CIA
should have picked up the
slack. Director should go.
barking frog
October 15th, 2012
8:22 pm
Clinton fans, what has she
done?
TM
October 15th, 2012
8:22 pm
Just in time for the debate- So Mr President was your Secretary of State incompetent?
kayaker 71
October 15th, 2012
8:23 pm
joseph, 8:19.
If she and McCain had run against each other, I would have had a hard time deciding whom to vote for. I respect her tenacity and her grit. I don’t agree with all that she stands for but she has the ability to make decisions…. sort of like Harry Truman. Bill was the problem with Hillary. Too much baggage.
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:23 pm
We haven’t had a President take the blame for anything since Harry Truman, at least not while in office…Bill did take the blame for Rwanda–later. George Sr did (somewhat) take the blame for not going on to Baghdad–later.
JamVet
October 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
haven’t you noticed?
Kettle………………………….. pot.
The Bush f ups discussing America’s foreign policy in the Mideast or anywhere is like watching a scene out of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.
But these lunatics are deadly, completely incompetent and the “tortured” antithesis of American statesmanship.
I’d like to see Crowley backhand both of those milquetoasts the first time they play b*llsh*t stupid and don’t answer the question asked of them.
And if she got her “hips” into it, she could send either of them across the stage!
barking frog
October 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
Bill Clinton could have
passed healthcare if he
had handled it himself.
They BOTH suck
October 15th, 2012
8:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhFf9oHkSDY
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:29 pm
KAYAKER
It took me a long time to warm up to Hillary. Ya gotta remember, I got family in Arkansas! And she pissed me off big time with that snide swipe at Tammy Wynette…well, she stood by her man…! But she won me over when she on any number of occasions acknowledged that she ain’t perfect and that hindsight may be 20/20 but you operate under what you know at the time…
USMC
October 15th, 2012
8:31 pm
Clinton: ‘I take responsibility’ for Benghazi security failure
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/15/us/clinton-benghazi/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Hillary Clinton Ad – 3 AM White House Ringing Phone–BENGHAZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yr7odFUARg
josef
October 15th, 2012
8:35 pm
FROG
I’ll agree with you on Clinton and health care…what has she done? Crafted a ‘walk softly and carry a big stick” foreign policy we’ve needed for a long time…
USMC
October 15th, 2012
8:38 pm
“We haven’t had a President take the blame for anything since Harry Truman, at least not while in office…”–josef
Boy, ain’t that the truth!, josef… Sorry, you knew it was coming…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiIP_KDQmXs
barking frog
October 15th, 2012
8:43 pm
josef
what walk softly? we were in
two wars and walked from
one with the worst settlement in history and
left 40,000 troops there.
Afghanistan is deteriorating
daily. Iran is still saber
rattling. Libya. Pakistan is
now our enemy. Obama
didn’t invite her back due
to her successed. What big
stick ? The US is mocked
daily.
F. Sinkwich
October 15th, 2012
8:45 pm
I have a neighbor who’s been out of work for some time, and he’s very discouraged. To cheer him up, this is what I told him:
“The new data Monday came as the Commerce Department revised August’s increase in retail sales to 1.2% from the earlier estimate of 0.9%. That meant the rise in August was the largest monthly gain since October 2010.”
I couldn’t believe the size of the smile that appeared on his face. He actually started doing cartwheels across his front lawn! The joy he showed at this economic news was orgasmic.
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
October 15th, 2012
8:47 pm
Whew, Jay, what a hoot!
Bloomberg – wholly-owned subsidiary of the DNC.
Reuters – pure, unadulterated Democrat shill 24/7
Census Bureau – controlled by supreme leader, numbers will be revised downward within a week or two
Housing – are you kidding me? I know numerous former house builders – none of them have gotten back in this business. Most find employment helping banks deal with their blown-up portfolios (who by the way will not loan for new construction without tremendous, IRR-killing collateral).
GM – what percent of these sales went to government fleets? Guarantee you its huge. I read somewhere the State Dept. is outfitting everybody with Volts (only people that will buy one).
Going to have to work alot harder than this over the next few weeks, Jay.
Different subject – Ryan/Crazy Uncle debate – Proverbs 29:9
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 15th, 2012
8:48 pm
My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle that used to work with a guy that knew someone who’s been out of work for some time.