Joe Biden, one helluva happy warrior

Was Lyinryan’s mom there last night?

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A performance like that just isn’t in Obama’s nature, and he has to find his own way of reasserting himself. The second debate will be almost as important to Obama as the first debate was to Romney.

Most definitely agreed.

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He definitely scored some points. I loved the bit about Ryan’s request for stimulus funds for his district. I wish he had used the follow-up “So, was giving money to your district just throwing away money?”

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He is my hero for telling the truth using facts.

“SURPRISE: Consumer Sentiment Rises ‘Unexpectedly’ to 5-Year High..” drudgey.

I think the numbers are changing and looking better. Of course, it is a vast left wing conspiracy.

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I’m sure those who hate all democrats will say he was a buffoon, etc. Those who do so are simply betraying their bias because it’s simply not accurate.

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Psst, our President is not a good debater. He lost the fist debate to Hillary then came back stronger in the next one. Joe laid the facts and truth out there to make media look horrible so our President will do the same. October job report will lower unemployment again. Then Americans can watch the obl movie.

Our President will win.

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A performance like that just isn’t in Obama’s nature, and he has to find his own way of reasserting himself.

Hopefully, the takeaway for Obama from this will be that not only is it OK to be assertive and aggressive, it’s what people are looking for and respect from a leader.

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I find it laughable that Ryan tap danced again around the direct question of what loopholes would be closed to offset the 5 trillion in across the board tax rate cuts. After the first dance he was asked a second time and still danced, then finally had to be asked if there were any that were off the table as far as being taken away and he still could not bring himself to answer the question. He and Mitt Romney know the details and they also know if they come clean it is game over.

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If Obama did a “Joe Biden” he’d be eagerly labeled by the cons as an “Angry Black Man”. Anytime a black person disagrees with the status quo, they must do so in a very sedate manner so as not to scare the weak kneed who, deep down, are frightened to death of anyone, (male, female, black or white), who has the balls to stand up and say something.

Biden was labeled as “impolite” by a couple of bloggers today. Obama will be labeled as “arrogant” and “uppity”. He can’t do a Joe Biden; he has to be seen as a mild mannered Black Man at all times.

When he gets into that phone booth, then he can take off his glasses, change his costume, and slap that “S” on his chest.

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getalife: I think the gop knew the CIA was involved but held their political hearing anyway.

I think you’re right. There ARE cons on the Intelligence Committee so they had to of known. However, just like with the outing of Valerie Plame, they felt that it was better to bring about political victory or points for the repubs by “leaking” information, than it was to secure the safety of its operatives.

Republicans — they wear that flag pin and place their hands over their heart – but it means NOTHING to them. Just theatrics.

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“So tonight, when Biden takes the stage to debate Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from the state of Wisconsin…”

With this line any useful objectivity of the author’s opinion of biden is out the window.

Oh and BTW occupation, nobody on the right got their feelings hurt by ol’ joe as you want to imply. We have no problem pointing out his boorish behavior though not that it needs to be. It really is self evident.

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The comments about Biden’s demeanor are certainly funny. Act like a “professor” and presidential, they claim you’re weak and apologizing. Stand up and address lies and laugh at absurd claims, and suddenly their guy is weak and its too aggressive. Will someone show us which bed is jusssst rightttt for Romneylocks?

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What I saw was an arrogant young punk with a stupid grin on his face. – fixed it

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What I saw was an arrogant old turd with a stupid grin on his face.

Lencrafters can fix that sight issue…. or do you need a guide dog?

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With this line any useful objectivity of the author’s opinion…

There’s your sign.

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The Vice-President would have been more effective if he had used his legislative experience the last four years to counsel the administration and make it effective! Unfortunately, he was pushed aside and now we have a President that has failed because of his lack of experience and ability! It is sad to read the comments on here by democrats desperate for anything positive to reverse the momentum the republicans have going as they and the American people look for new hope and change to move forward and strengthen our country by making a change in the presidency! The voters are not stupid, the President promised things and he failed to deliver so the people will vote him out!

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It was too funny hearing my co-workers this morning repeat what Fox News told them after the debate. Not about how well Ryan did but how rude of VP Biden!

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I can only imagine the indignation had Ryan been as childish and rude to Biden and Biden was to Ryan. Time and time again I read comments on this blog about how disrespectful the anti-Obama comments are, but I guess when it’s your guy doing the disrespecting it’s ok, even applauded. If someone who acts like Biden did last night has the qualities you desire in a VP, congrats. Me, I can’t wait for January. Thanks Biden. Your petulant, rude behavior last night turned a lot of indies off, and definitely was not an example of how Obama promised 4 years ago to build coalitions and work across parties. But oh yeah, I forgot, it’s ok when your guy does it but crucify the other candidate if he acts similarly. Just love the double standards.

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F. Sinkiewicz — “I expect that sentiment to continue to rise as it becomes more and more obvious that O’bozo will lose in November.”

Let us know when that first hint of “obvious” breaks the surface there, Fishy.

http://www.electoral-vote.com

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Will someone show us which bed is jusssst rightttt for Romneylocks?

Probably the one located in the hungry, starved lion’s den.

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Pierce is a very talented writer, been reading him for years. I saw biden speaking in D.C. one time and he was passionate and not boring. I thought his interruptions were ill timed especially in one exchange where radditz was trying pin down ryan on an actual answer and biden over rode her which was to his own detriment. However, on the stimulus, social security, and medicare, he buried ryan…

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weetamoe — “If you oppose a *stimulus* package that the democrats eventually pass, your constituents will bear the burden of additional taxes to repay the debt, so of course you will request some of the money for your district.”

PORKULUS BAD, GIMME GIMME GIMME

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So if Mitt is a “car guy”, what kind of car is he?

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I think we should as the two presidential candidates to dance a single dance with their wives.

How awkward would that be for the wooden Romney?

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Stonethrower… that’s because if Republicans thought for themselves and did not just repeat Republican talking points…

they wouldn’t be Republicans.

(that’s why even Limbaugh calls his followers “ditto heads”. The weak-minded parrot their masters)

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Bill Orvis White is angry old man who is boy just got dissed and played. BOO HOO!!!!

Suck it! angry old white men.

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It is sad to read the comments on here…

Awwww didums shall we throw a pity party for thee?

Don’t be sad!

Take charge of your own emotions!

If coming here and reading comments makes you sad, don’t come here!

See how easy that could be?!

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Biden was laughing because the whole time Ryan was trying to label him and Obama as lacking leadership, he was ducking and dodging questions that were asking for specifics in how he would show leadership. If this administration is leading from behind, Ryan’s performance last night makes one think the Romney/Ryan administration would lead in absentia.

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It was laughable that the Ryan kept talking about the “lack of” “bipartisan” efforts by the president with the repubs in Congress. Since their stated #1 job was to make Obama a one term President, obviously they were sooooo open to the President’s ideas.

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Joe, often wrong but never in doubt, looked like he was on meth to me.

A Randroid would know.

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Jay – So he was happy, actually I think he belongs on the short bus. When I think of 70 yr old Joe Biden, term-limits come to mind. Take John McCain with him and clean house of old guys on both sides?

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Ol’ Joe was the perfect example of the democrats – angry, defensive, nasty, disrepectful (to the audience more so than Ryan), “blame the other guys”, “we care more” BS, etc., etc., etc. Interestingly also was Ol’ Joe sounded like the candidate running for VP rather than the sitting VP.

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rag,

Meth much?

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Don’t be sad! Take charge of your own emotions! If coming here and reading comments makes you sad, don’t come here! See how easy that could be?!

This blog is like crack to the conned — they can’t walk by without looking; they can’t look without reading, and they can’t read without leaving a comment.

Jay must have some super duper mojo juice working or something……….

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Mighty, you do have evidence to back up your claim? I’ll save you time…you don’t. Here are the factcheck.org statements on the issue:

Biden also claimed that the administration wasn’t aware of security concerns among U.S. officials in Libya before the attack on the consulate in Benghazi that killed four Americans. The vice president said: “[W]e weren’t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again.”

They placed the blame squarely on Charlene Lamb, deputy assistant secretary of state for international programs, according to Foreign Policy magazine.

As an aside, even after the scummy and childish personal attack without evidence by the lost DoomBoom, he is proven completely wrong again. So much for his declarations of “victory”.

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Loved seeing Ryan’s face when Joe brought up those letters from him thanking him for the stimulus monies….. classic!

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Joe Biden, one helluva arrogant, cocky, rude little pr*k.

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You can tell the cons are upset by their silly comments about our Vice President.

After they bought all the media lies, then Joe tells the truth, they lash out like bad children.

I find it flat out hilarious.

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If last night was Joe just being Joe, I’ll choose no.

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That’s the best you’ve got, Kamspam? I know you are but what am I. lol

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Joe Biden, Rosie O’Donnell . . . it is so easy to get those two Dudes mixed up.

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Poor little peapup, so much potential wasted.

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Stay classy, JHM. Stay classy.

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Ima Librul — “If Obama came out in Muslim garb pulling a goat and opened with a prayer from the Koran, He would still get the votes from the regular cluster here.”

And if Romney came out in temple garments and talking about Kolob, how would *that* play with the GOP faithful?

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If Obama came out in Muslim garb pulling a goat and opened with a prayer from the Koran, He would still get the votes from the regular cluster here.

So in “I’m a lib” world, there is something wrong with being in Muslim garb and using a non-Christian prayer. Hmmm… why does he HATE the US Constitution?

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Joe seems to be caught in the current of a temporary upswing. Being rude,,insensitive, bullying, nasty, denigrating, mean sprited, aggresive, overbearing, condescending not to mention interrupting Paul 89 times, has given the administration optimism, not to mention the populace who expect to receive what is left of the money in the treasury. Imagine someone with those qualities in a position of making decisions.

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I wonder where ol’ princess is.

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Peadawg — “Stay classy, JHM. Stay classy.”

There’s an arrogance and cockiness that’s sometimes borne of age, experience and common sense. Older people can have that. Younger people can’t.

When you’re older, you might understand.

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nelson — “Being rude,,insensitive, bullying, nasty, denigrating, mean sprited, aggresive, overbearing, condescending not to mention interrupting Paul 89 times, has given the administration optimism, not to mention the populace who expect to receive what is left of the money in the treasury. Imagine someone with those qualities in a position of making decisions.”

I’m thinking that you’re talking about Bush and Cheney. Did I guess right?

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Joe Hussein Mama

October 12th, 2012
1:11 pm
Righty — “I am sure many Democrats cringed”

Not me. I cheered as Six-Gun Joe paddled that youngster’s behind and sent him running home crying to Mama.

Joe did you cheer when old Joe smiled and smirked at people being unemployed in this country and at the deaths of our citizens in Libya? Did you cheer at Joe’s lies about Obamacare confiscating 700 billion dollars from medicare? Boy that ole Joe is a fun guy. I hope you are sitting down because the olls almost without exsception said ole Joe got his butt whipped by the youngster.

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Whatever makes you sleep well at night, JHM. Stay classy.

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Biden took Ryan’s supposed strengths and used them against him, calling him on his tax plan and budget.
Obama needs to do the same to Mitt the Salesman.

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SfD — “no no no. We’re “broke.” remember?”

Huh. And here the Treasury up and sold $13B in 30-year bonds in an open auction just yesterday. Wonder why Ryan didn’t bring that up last night?

Oyeah, bad news for his argument.

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Unreal how many people just disregard everything Republicans are saying as myth, as a means to deter from the fact that they are DOMINATING these debates. Ignorantly ignoring the myths of the democrats, to only recognize the myths of the republicans, just to somehow make it seem like the democrats are winning these debates in any sort of way. Pathetic, get a hobby, vote for a real president

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“was reference to the “5-point plan” (with no specifics)”

Remember, “it’s complicated” and they’d rather deal with Congress on the specifics. Last time I checked, we still had a vote in elections for Congress, so we ARE Congress. ‘Splain it US Lucy…

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lib

Still two debates left; the public is fickle in the middle, what to do, what to do? Well, if you are working right now, you’ll usually stick with the incumbent even if it hurts. If you’re unemployed, what have you got to lose going for the new guy? Roughly 90% are currently employed, a high hurdle for romney indeed…

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Thom: so what’s their plan? What exactly ARE the “5 points” of the Romney/Ryan plan? What exactly will they do? A month ago it was all far-right Ryan plan economics. Now it’s Mitt the Moderate who just LOVES that “47%” he so derisively described just a short short while ago.

If it weren’t so easy and so obvious to point out the myths, then maybe noone would. If they gave specifics and actually answered questions with more than “well all I can tell you is THEY are doing it wrong now…” then maybe we’d have something to debate other than the lies and missteps and fabrications. Sooooooo……

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Seriously? And you wonder how people got the idea that the MSM might be a left-wing propaganda machine?

Awwwwwwww diddums, does him need someone to explain opinion blog to him?

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I was hoping Ryan would say when pressed on specifics that he would of said…” Our plan is to ignore the legislative side of Government and appoint about 30 Czars and just have our way an impose our will without any input from the other party”…………ZERO republican votes on Obama care remember…….got to pass it to see what’s in it.

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Any possibility of screening posts that contain personal insults? Anyone using insults in their argument usually have no argument.

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“son”

Nope, thank goodness.

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Peadawg — “Nope, thank goodness.”

Thanks for accepting the sobriquet “Grasshopper,” son.

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Here’s an idea: How about the Romney/Ryan folks sit down and come up an actual plan they can present with real numbers and get the speculation over with? I’d love to debate what they actually SAY versus what they don’t.

And that’ll happen the day I win the lottery.

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I’ve got no clue what “grasshopper” means (and don’t really care), that’s why I didn’t comment. I’ll file it away with Kamspam’s tries at using “seabiscuit” correctly.

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“Any possibility of screening posts that contain personal insults? Anyone using insults in their argument usually have no argument.”

Don’t come on here if you can’t take it.

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probably my favorite bit of the debate started with Ryan’s Evil Stimulus bit:

They passed a stimulus, the idea that we could borrow $831 billion, spend it on all these special interest groups and that it would work out just fine, that unemployment would never get to 8 percent. It went up above 8 percent for 43 months. They said that right now, if we just pass this stimulus, the economy would grow at 4 percent. It’s growing at 1.3 (percent).

Now, there are all kinds of wonky ways I would’ve gone after that. I could’ve chipped away at the edges, saying that the estimates he’s talking about were from January 2009, before the worst of the economic reports were in. I could’ve gone another way and said “so your approach would be to let most of our state economies collapse in a heap, say ’sorry lads, you’re on your own, can’t help you!’ is that your idea of leadership?”

But what does Biden do?

I love my friend here. I — I’m not allowed to show letters, but go on our website: He sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of Wisconsin? We sent millions of dollars. You know why he said he needed –

VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN: I love that. I love that. This is such a bad program, and he writes me a letter saying — writes the Department of Energy a letter saying, the reason we need this stimulus — it will create growth and jobs.

Good stuff.

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To sum up last night’s debate, Proverbs 29:9
“When a wise man debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet.”

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Granny: and I did a little happy dance.

Me too!

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As I’ve said before, “one sees what they want to see”.I don’t see any winners or losers in any debate. Most of what politicans say is B.S. no matter the party. Ryan sat there with a smirk, like some smart ass college kid. Biden constantly interuped him and smiled like some old fool. Unless you read all the reports and dig into what happened in the middle east, Who the HELL knows? I’ve voted both parties over the years and what I do know is that this country is in a delima finanically. And its because those idiots in Washington take billions of OUR dollars and put it where THEY want it to go. Folks this country is in trouble. I think we need change. Thats what decides my vote. How in the Hell can they keep writeing checks when theres NO MONEY IN THE BANK. O’Bamas motto is “LEAN FORWARD”. Yea, lean so far forward you pull America right over the cliff.

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@stands: and if Joe had been polite, he would have followed that with, “here’s your hat, let me walk you to the door. Thanks for stopping by young man.”

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They need to go away because they are INCOMPETENT!!! I mean come on.

THE SMOKING GUN IS THE MUSHROOM CLOUD!!! I mean come on!!!

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Ryan has the cold dead eyes of a person who would enjoy putting nursing home patients in the streets if he gets his 1/3 reduction in Medicaid! In addition, most doctors who take Medicaid patients now (usually the people who are severely ill or disabled), would stop taking them if they got even less for their care than they are already getting. Do you think the doctors are going to treat all those people for free? What about cancer patients? Radiation therapy alone (for just one cancer)
can run over $20,000! Where are these poor sick people going to get the money from?
ERs do not provide radiation therapy and chemo!!!!! If Paul Ryan gets cancer, do you really think he is going to have any worries about where and how to obtain and pay for treatment? I despise people who have all the money and comfort they could ever need, yet can’t wait to crush the ill, disabled, and elderly in our society! This is pure evil. The Nuns On The Bus are absolutely right about Ryan and his proposed budget.

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All you people asking about the Romney Ryan plan, why weren’t you so willing to see Obama’s healthcare plan last election. What was his plan? I believe it was to have an open debate in front of everybody on CSPAN blah blah blah and create a healthcare reform bill that cost less than a trillion dollars. What did we get? A closed door meeting that rammed through legislation that most people in the country do not want. The bill wasn’t even close to $1 trillion and the number continues to grow by the day. Oh but, we had to pass to see all of the good things in it. Give me a break. What good does it do to give details of a plan when it is only as good as the legislation that will work with you to pass it? That is the problem with you libs. You believed Obama when he gave his details of his plan last election. Why weren’t you as curious about his details back then? Why are you not hammering him on all of his broken promises from the last election?

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scott: get the rest of the facts. The House refused to pass a bill to increase embassy security, instead insisting on hundreds of millions in cuts. Now, I’m no math whiz, but if you CUT funds, you can’t really INCREASE security, not unless you have a few mall cops out of work with a bad attitude and a desire to carry a real gun.

Also, the Benghazi compound was inadvertently revealed to be a CIA post. So the CIA evidently shared responsibility for security there. Where were they and why didnt’ the explosion of intel supposedly created by all the money poured in post-911 not give them a clue that a group was organizing an attack? There are a lot of failures here, and a lot of folks who need to answer for it whose responsibility it is to know and inform the WH.

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The lack of details by Ryan was glaring, the strategy is too be as unspecific about taxes, deficit reduction, etc. as possible. Then hopefully the uninformed will follow what Rush and Hannity tell them to do. For those that think Ryan’s performance was genius, you are in serious need of explanation on government and policy works.

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“I think we need change. Thats what decides my vote.”

And you’re willing to go back to those same guys and their policies that killed our economy and put us in this predicament in the first place? My my — how very sad.

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Peadawg

October 12th, 2012
1:41 pm
“As I’ve said before, “one sees what they want to see”.”

That explains far righties and far lefties PERFECTLY.

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It’s YOU to a T, PD.

Add to that your constant I don’t know, never heard of it, I was too young deflections instead of a desire to seek out information and
it’s just exactly you.

You have potential youngling…but you must make a real effeort to find it and use it.

Love, Granny

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long as I’m sharing, here’s my LEAST favorite Biden moment, although I’m sure it played well:

MS. RADDATZ: Vice President Biden, let me ask you, if it could help solve the problem, why not very slowly raise the Medicare eligibility age by two years, as Congressman Ryan suggests?

We will not, though, be part of any voucher plan eliminating — the voucher says, Mom, when you’re — when you’re 65, go out there, shop for the best insurance you can get; you’re out of Medicare. You can buy back in, if you want, with this voucher, which will not keep pace — will not keep pace with health care costs, because if it did keep pace with health care costs, there would be no savings. That’s why they go the voucher — they — we will be no part of a voucher program or the privatization of Social Security.

And that’s an absolutely pussified response, Mister Vice President. The correct answer is, “we are NOT going to raise the eligibility age, that’s a f-cking stupid thing to even ask. Do you have any idea how expensive it would be for the private market to take on those older Americans? What are you, nuts? Do you know anyone outside of the Village who has to pay for this stuff on their own?

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Thats what decides my vote. How in the Hell can they keep writeing checks when theres NO MONEY IN THE BANK ,/i>

Reagan quadrupled it.

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Maybe Biden can play the Joker in the next Batman movie?

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Clinton just kinda puts it all in perspective. I’d love to see him and Joe in an interview together about the election. If you haven’t seen it, it’s worth the laugh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkko2DF7TKQ

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getalife – I guess Obama’s got your vote, right? You are eligible?

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Not sure what has your panties in a wad, Granny, but I don’t follow either side blindly (unlike some on here). I actually think for myself.

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Keep up the good fight. I just do not believe these guys. Obama appointed Stevens as ambassador. A success in Libya would be a focal point of his reelection campaign. You don’t think he had any communication with him? Seriously? It has been noted that Stevens was concerned about the security. He wrote it in his own words. I can picture how this interaction must have gone.
Obama: So Chris, how are things going over there. You know this is an important issue for my foreign policy. Let’s make it quick though. I have 3 other guys waiting for me on the course.
Stevens: Well…..there is a little bit of concern here. I know we have done a decent job fortifying it, but I am a little bit concerned about whether we have enough people to keep it secure. Surely, it was mentioned in the national security briefing.
Obama: National Security…..what? Oh that thing. Man….I haven’t been to one of those in months. I think I stopped going to those things about the same time I stopped going to that boring jobs council. Okay….so everything sounds good. Thanks for letting me know that Libya is okay.
Stevens: Uh……not exactly what I said
Obama: I hear you. I have to get out to the golf course. Bye. Good luck. Make sure I look good for this year’s election.

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OSAMA IS DEAD & GM IS ALIVE!

Jackson(Gen. Andrew) was a dem & Lincoln GOP

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Libya brotherhood is our friend

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I can picture how this interaction must have gone.

SO when you dont have evidence, just make up a conversation as you imagine it.

Are you on Issa’s staff?

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weetamoe

Yes regarding Bob Woodwards book Price of Politics…highly unlikely that many, if any liberals on this forum read that book as they were tipped off that it was critical of the poor, if non-existent leadership skills of President Spineless.. The discussion about BO turning away GOP before inauguration when approached with a proposal that cut bottom two tax rates and eliminated taxes on unemployment benefits his response was “we won, you lost get over it…as president I think i trump you..” This was the first stone casted in the stalemate.

Funny how Liberals including Jay are jumping for joy over a tie…I guess they were most concerned he would say another idiotic thing…his BS about Afghanistan and other emotional diatribes are complete crap..if any liberals are proud of his absurd demeanor …that speaks volumes..

Jumping for joy for a tie or simply because he got thru the 90 minutes without gaff…

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To all Americans who are hurting….or worse off….the ONLY thing they can count on is an old slogan that might really work this time. Hope and change.

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Mick, If you want to be taken seriously, stop talking.

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getalife

October 12th, 2012
12:48 pm
What did ryan say about assessing Afghanistan to stay?

It is the same neocon words to stay in Iraq.

The neocons took over mitt’s foreign policy and they are dangerous failures.
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I’m asking because I honestly don’t know. Does Obama’s timeline for 2014 in Afghanistan leave the option for American forces to still be Afghanistan after 2014 or not? Does that mean ALL American forces will be out of the country in 2014?

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Joe Biden certainly provided some entertainment last night. Agree with Jay that he was just being Joe but after awhile the theatrics detracted somewhat.

Biden’s most important comment all evening imho was reiterating the commitment to exit Afghanistan and turn that debacle over to the Afghans in 2014. I heard Ryan say that the U.S. should never go to war unless it’s in our national interest, but ‘national interest’ covers a lot of territory. Hopefully he doesn’t believe that we should continue to be the World Policeman.

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dB @ 1:36

Now, I wish I had watched it. I’ll go back and read the transcript for sure now. I think they should all be called out on national tv in front of huge audiences when they pull that doublespeak crap. I don’t care which party it is either.

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scott

I’ll just keep writing, got it?

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Alright liberal losers. Enjoy the rest of the day. It is just one day closer to the clown being thrown out of office. Hopefully, he doesn’t do much more damage to this country. If I was the new ambassador to Libya Laurence Pope, I certainly would be worried. We know that security in that country isn’t a priority.

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By scotty…take your white flag with you…

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Now, I wish I had watched it

I really was prepared to flip back to the Orioles-Yankees matchup (it was a great game) but I couldn’t; I said at the time to Mrs. sfd,of Biden: “He’s really having a good time. He loves this stuff, doesn’t he?”

And frankly, what made it good, rather than painful, was that Ryan wasn’t helpless, he was a decent adversary and put up a good fight. It wasn’t a blowout by any means. But I was pleased with what I saw, which was vintage Biden, the guy I saw in the 2007-2008 primary debates, not the subdued, better-not-come-off-like-a-sexist-jerk guy who went up against Sarah Palin.

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Mick, I know you’ll call me naive.. I’ve been called much worse on here…..but i read Obama’s books. I just have to take him at his word because I see it being played out the last four years. And Capitalism has many warts, but it ain’t bad. This country has a pretty high standard of living. Most really poor have Ac/heat, cable Tv, cell phones, and emergency rooms for any pain. No, not perfect….But trying to ” even the playing field” by taxing the hell out of good people who have done all the right things so someone ( not physically challenged or mental types) so someone young and healthy screams ” where’s my S___” is not a good plan.

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Regnad – I’m not really into those kind of fantasies, just thought it might be interesting! The WH has to throw someone under the bus though, waiting to find out who.

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There is no evidence to suggest the Afghan’s are interested in another prolonged fight to keep out the Taliban…I see nothing that suggests they will return to the power they enjoyed prior to our involvement….which I think was a mistake in the first place…retroactively speaking anyhow..

Iraqq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Egypt etecetera will ultimately turn against because the battle for control will be won by the (new) bad guys…

I wish we’d pull them all out today and save our money and lives..but since that is not the case, leaving without our objective met sends another weak signal from our excessively weak admin…

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scott: I believe it was to have an open debate in front of everybody on CSPAN blah blah blah and create a healthcare reform bill that cost less than a trillion dollars. What did we get? A closed door meeting that rammed through legislation that most people in the country do not want.

Why are you trying to rewrite history? Or, just flat out lie, one or the other. A quick “google” put an end to your lie very fast:

The meetings were held in public and broadcast by C-SPAN and can be seen on the C-SPAN web site[147] or at the Committee’s own web site. (^ [1] Senate Finance Committee Hearings for the 111th Congress recorded by C-SPAN
^ “Senate Finance Committee hearings for 111th Congress”. Finance.senate.gov. Retrieved April 1, 2012.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act#Legislative_history

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Would you really want this clown “Biden” to be your President? He laughed, smirked, and grimaced his way through the debate without any serious consideration at all. What is so funny about Iraq, Dead Border Patrolmen, A dead Ambassador and 716 million to be taken out of Medicare to pay for Obummercare? Our older generation is very much in peril. Obummer and Biden have no plans or empathy for anyone. If they had read the bills that they passed they would know what is in them. All Americans can expect some kind of difficulties if Obummer and associates are returned to office.

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We’ll still have residual forces in Afghanistan after 2014, just not combat troops. the Afghan government will be responsible for security as in Iraq security is by the Iraqis

Unfortunately our continued presence with combat troops until the Afghans are trained would require a century or two. After all that country is 18th century at best.

We need to get out totally.

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I watched the debate. Joe Biden spoke sincerely from his heart. Joe Biden knew what he was talking about. Paul Ryan gave a series of short stump speeches.

Ryan’s answer to the last question about what he would tell a serviceman about the tone of the campaign rhetoric was astonishing. The first sentence was something about “Thank you for your service.” He never mentioned the serviceman again. He just kept spewing the anti-Obama vitriol that he has been spewing for months. I suppose that what we can infer from Ryan’s answer is that he is darned proud of the tone of the campaign, and to expect the same if his ticket is elected.

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guys, guys! Scott has access to CIA info. that we don’t….oh yeah…never mind it’s just the Fox News network

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“Last year, you guys made fun of Sarah Palin.”

Yeah b/c she’s an idiot. Plain and simple. Period. End of story.

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Biden is a typical liberal Democrat:

BOORISH, ABRASIVE, RUDE, INCONSIDERATE AND HE BELIEVES THAT VOLUME TRUMPS TRUTH.

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Stevie

Is it the “tie” that bothers you or the fact that many on the right stated Ryan would mop up Biden and that didn’t occur?

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VOLUME TRUMPS TRUTH

Well by using all caps, I guess you are a subscriber Senior Digits…

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0311 — “Biden is a typical liberal Democrat: BOORISH, ABRASIVE, RUDE, INCONSIDERATE AND HE BELIEVES THAT VOLUME TRUMPS TRUTH.”

OutSTANDING.

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Wasn’t it last year that we got to make fun of Sarah Palin while her daughter was Dancing with the Stars?

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The power in incumbency and all the success you would think Obama would be pulling away……..

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Stevie

Even some on the right made fun of Palin. Don’t just blame the left.
She was so effective that she isn’t out doing much campaigning for some odd reason. Not sure if you noticed that or not.

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4 years ago……A good speech a no record……..today…….a record and a good speech……big difference.

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I just wish when Biden kept interrupting him, that Ryan would have just reached over there and bitch-slapped ole Joe! But I guess you are not supposed to strike the elderly!

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curious

October 12th, 2012
2:12 pm
We’ll still have residual forces in Afghanistan after 2014, just not combat troops. the Afghan government will be responsible for security as in Iraq security is by the Iraqis

Unfortunately our continued presence with combat troops until the Afghans are trained would require a century or two. After all that country is 18th century at best.

We need to get out totally.
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I preface this with the fact i’m conservative.

My question is. . . if things go to hell in a handbasket over there after combat troops are gone, and our “residual forces” are being attacked and the Afghans can’t cut it, what then? Do we go back with combat forces or do we just leave entirely? For once, not trying to goad or start an argument . . . I just hear about leaving in 2014 but there must be more to the plan than just leaving.

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Senior Digits, it really is childish for you to attack the service of others and disrespectful.

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…a tie is a win…

A tie?

Frankly, I expected much more from Ryan, and he let us down. A disengaged viewer would have seen Joe Biden as the much more forceful, much more knowledgeable candidate. Worse, Biden’s victory gives the Democratic media exactly what they were looking for: an opportunity to declare the beginning of the Obama comeback. This was a needless defeat; I could easily come up with more than 100 individuals who do not hold public office but would have done a better job than Ryan did tonight. It was a big disappointment. Let’s just hope that Biden overplayed his hand and TV viewers thought he was a weirdo. And let’s hope that no one votes based on the VP candidate. Advantage, Democrats.

FURTHER UPDATE: One more thing–for what it is worth, Sarah Palin did a much better job against Joe Biden in 2008 than Paul Ryan did tonight. Bizarre, but true.

When Powerline calls it for Biden and even says Palin made a better showing, then it wasn’t a tie.

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Mick…..snoop a little outside your normal bubble and fact check ole Joe… Told a whopper or two

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Mr Snarky@2:20 – I agree, but if it was to be Hilliary(Head of State Dept), would love to see Bill’s reaction?

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I submit that you will be wildly disappointed…

I watched part of the end last night before bed, and I was actually quite surprised more by the moderator than anything else. Instead of letting Ryan skate by on their tax/budget issue, she kept digging at him to actually answer the question and show some leadership. I guess you can’t bust somebody’s chops about not being a leader when your grand tax plan requires you to abdicate to Congress, huh?

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That was hilarious, liberal. Joe Biden knew what he was talking about and he demonstrated it. Paul Ryan has spent the last 20 years of his life in Washington and he couldn’t offer anything but political talking points. I am sure that there is a reason for that. His record as a Congressman is so extremely right wing that he wouldn’t dare talk about it during a national debate.

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Would you really want this clown “Biden” to be your President? He laughed, smirked, and grimaced his way through the debate without any serious consideration at all.

This same comment, almost verbatim, has been spewed on the blog all day. Must’ve been one of Rush’s or Boortz’s talking points today.

Its almost like the conned have mutated into a puppet and RusBortzFauxNews has stuck their hand up the wahooos.

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@Halftrack — seriously? You perceived Biden was laughing at the issues? I understood Biden to be laughing and shaking his head at how quickly and easily Ryan lied about the issues and his approach to addressing them. Did we see the same debate?

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Peadawg

October 12th, 2012
2:10 pm
Granny, go take your meds. You’re talking out of your ars again. You see what you want to see.

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If that were true you’d look like Gollum.

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Bro

Ryan was evasive on the tax plan but says it will work.

That would be like Les Myles saying, we are going to put up 31 against Bama and have 400 yrds of defense. When asked how, he replies with nothing except to say “we will do it”. If that is the game plan, no they will not.

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Then she couldn’t..um…you know.

…Speak. And Palin not speaking is a good thing.

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Bro

Poor ole Scout was posting that same thing downstairs looking for some attention. I was going to say the exact same thing, but let it go.

We switched places for a minute

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flagboy?

Assuming you’re asking me;

Get out totally. Afghanistan has always been gone to hell in a handbasket.

No other nation has been able to control Afghanistan; we’re no different. They’re Islamists and they just don’t like non-Islamists.

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stevie

Unwielding is your description, I was mainly concerned with the stimulus, social security, and medicare. On the mark with those, but overall, I’ll go with the fact checkers…

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AP: ‘Laugh, chuckle, grimace, grin, smirk, goofy face’…

drudgey spam

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THEYBOTHSUCK,

Fogive me if I painted you in the same light as the giddy liberals…my bad that was wrong..

KAMCHAK

There are several sources of guesses as to who won…strictly partisan as I’ve seen although I’m not sure about CNN…you may want to check it..

One says 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 undecided…one says ryan 48% to 44% Ryan using likely voters yet also suggesting that of undecideds, Biden won 50% to Ryans 31%…

No knockout punches…a draw…more importantly for you, Biden looked stupid but didn’t say anything completely stupid..

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Godless,

Your latest comment about “burden carrying” is a classic.

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On VP selections alone, Obama shows substantially more discretion and intelligence than his opponent.
Few understand the good and bad of D.C. better than Biden. Certainly not young Ryan, who is either disingenous or delusional about his budget plan.

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“First, you would have to have your wife’s approval about Sarah?” – We have an agreement on famous people.

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curious

October 12th, 2012
2:32 pm
flagboy?

Assuming you’re asking me;

Get out totally. Afghanistan has always been gone to hell in a handbasket.

No other nation has been able to control Afghanistan; we’re no different. They’re Islamists and they just don’t like non-Islamists.
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Wasn’t necessarily just asking you, but an answer is an answer. While I think all Americans would love to be out of Afghanistan in 2014, I just don’t see it being that easy.

Then, with nothing set up (what being set up is another question), we leave the same power vacuum in the area that was there when the Soviets left, which created the war lord regime that brought up Bin Laden.

I don’t know. . . i don’t think either party has a real answer for Afghanistan (imagine).

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and, as usual, reading the blogs here at AJC gives me the impression that I’d rather not be invited to any dinner party that most of the people here frequent.

adios.

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flagboy? – Why should we stay in Afghanistan? What is the benefit to the American people? What is the cost, in dollars AND lives? Why should we continue to fight for a people whom we don’t know will/won’t fight for themselves? When is it time to make a country stand up on their own two feet? Do you wish for Afghanistan to become our 51st state or our 10th territory? When is enough enough?

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Scout: n my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”

I KNEW it!! SOME marines are psychopaths!

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Biden was a pompous @$$ on stage, laughing like an idiot for no reason. I guess he found himself funny when talking about serious matters. His demeanor should scare everyone to death that he is in the position he is in. He was rude, he would ask questions and then interrupt as Ryan tried to talk, The moderator who spent her time helping Biden until he turned on her, was incapable of being a moderator. The first question asked about Libya and 8 seconds into his answer he forgot the question and started talking about Iran and Afganastan,,,,,, I know he probably did not forget, he just knew he could not answer the question truthfully without looking bad. this entire adminstration is worthless and it showed last night even though many here thought it went great. Bet you hope he is not protecting you if you were in Libya, bet you hope you are never successful or they will attack you.
Disgusting.

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for a minute, I had you confused with Jim Leher:

[golf clap]

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“No Big Birds, but Joe’s whole platform was from a 47% comment taken out of context from some random speech.”

Oh that speech wasn’t random, that’s for sure. It was made in the heat of campaign season to a very specific group of supporters. Knowing Mitt, he was probably just saying what he knew they wanted to hear. But you have to admit he did it very convincingly. This was an audience of like-minded folks Romney is used to being around. And it was, as he admitted, just plain wrong. But he said it, and it will keep on churning. Even Ryan gave a number of 30% in one of his speeches. If you put it out there as a politician, you have to figure somebody, somewhere has a camera, or at least a notepad and you WILL have to answer for it sooner or later.

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0311 — In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.

Even the cooks and administrative clerks.

The Navy calls it a HELO.

The Army calls it a CHOPPER.

The Air Force calls it a ROTARY-WING AIRCRAFT.

The Marines call it a (POINTS, GRUNTS EXCITEDLY)

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Stevie

Dixie Dregs. That was a very good band for sure

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Mr Snarky – Good post about Michelle, I’m afraid you may be right. Why not blame Eric Holder and get it over? Everyone would like to see him go, then Obama would win easily! He might even get my vote?

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Joe Biden, one helluva LIAR.

He lied. And he did it on purpose.

Biden said Catholic charities would not have to pay for contraception and other morally objectionable services.

The lie was so bad, that the U.S. Bishops issued a public statement today calling out Biden for his “inaccurate statement of fact.”

And we know why Biden lied. His mission was to deceive Catholic voters.

He is a deceitful, blowhard and rude/disrespectful individual. Congratulations Joe….you showed us what being an liberal really looks like. Sad….The Culture of Death and Immorality lives on and aligns itself with someone like Biden/Obama.

Obama and Biden…dismembering babies is their top priority. The Abortion Regime.

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@jay, gotta love the:” out of line “;do you take yourself or any of your bloggers(including me, I’m just bored) seriously . Where’s the godzilla gal-laying flowers at willie B.’s grave,that is SOOOO out of line….

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RF,

That fine, perhaps Romney can parrot Obama’s “poor white folks cling to the bibles and guns” comment over and over.

Just comes off as weak IMO.

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Biden was just protecting his time.

whatever gets ya through the night

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Classic – It looks like Joe told many more whoppers than Paul Ryan did, if you list to fact check?

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Tom

Are you saying that you are ok with a few whoppers? As long as you have less than your opponent it is ok?

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That was an absolute disgrace which good old Joe last night accomplished. The mugging, laughing, shaking of his head, condescension, butting in, and disrupting was low class no matter how you Democrats see it.

Joe Biden is a buffoon and the face of your political party. The seriousness of the event was turned into a circus with his rude and childish antics. Those of you who condone such behavior are very poor judges of character. The only thing that this clown failed to do was stand behind Ryan and stick his tongue out for laughs.

The polls and the sensible American public have responded with disgust. This type of shenanigans will be remembered on No. 6 and I shall be here to remind you all of your devotion to such low class antics.

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He was a helluva ass hole. He was rude,mean spirited, a bully who was not informed on anything. Ryan was polite and well informed. Biden represented the occupy wall street gang.It is time to put some respectable leaders in the White House.

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They BOTH: That would be like Les Myles saying, we are going to put up 31 against Bama and have 400 yrds of defense. When asked how, he replies with nothing except to say “we will do it”.

Nominee for analogy of the year!!!!

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No clear winner of argument last night. However, there was class and then a classless old codger. I assume Joe Biden doesn’t think class in politics is a BFD… as he would say.

Did anyone find it odd that Biden’s plan to address Medicare’s insovency is to reduce payments to medical providers while increasing accesibility to drugs? Put in your Ramones CD America and start listening to Sedated, hope is just around the corner. I found it a “million billion” times odd!

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Not that hard.

Is that what she said?

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Dawg ‘88 — “The HHS mandate contains a narrow, four-part exemption for certain “religious employers.” That exemption was made final in February and does not extend to “Catholic social services, Georgetown hospital, Mercy hospital, any hospital,” or any other religious charity that offers its services to all, regardless of the faith of those served.”

The exemption that *does* apply to the facilities you named expired in August. They now have to offer those services in the 2013 benefit plan year.

So again, not required to offer those services TODAY.

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offered birth control in their employee health plan (as required under Georgia law).

Georgia, and bunch of other states.

Funny how you never heard a peep about religious freedom infringement until evil OSAMAKKKARE came along.

(I really don’t know why that isn’t the default response from Team Obama when this nuck-futted talking point turns up from antichoicers.)

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Kam

I think Ryan sealed it with the bicep pics yesterday.

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I did think it was nice when the two families came together on stage after the debate.

Well, not me. I’m sick of all this niceness between people that hate each other’s guts. And that goes for the losing a__hole that always says after a nasty campaign, “I congratulate my opponent for running a good race.” I don’t know about you, but I’m ready for a few Jerry Springer moments in these political races. America is as stopped up as a granny in a nursing home because people won’t let it all hang out. Let’s get it out in the open. You got two sides, and neither one likes the other one bit. I bet if Bookman wasn’t looking in once in a while we’d see some humdingers on this blog. There’d be comments that would make a Marine drill sergeant blush. You know and I know that the day after the election one side is going to be on here saying it was all unfair and that a bunch of ignorant people elected the winner. It’s about time for some slugging.

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A few minutes a day here will tell you everything that has gone on on the right-wing noise machine.

Today’s word is “buffoon” and the dominant meme is that Joe Biden is a rude, arrogant, bully. It amazes me every day how many lap it up and then come here to share “their” thoughts.

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“What’s a good way to know to scroll past a comment and not read it, without reading it first?”

You’ll figure it out. The rest of us have.

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“I wasn’t aware that there is a case to be made for excessive number of terms for Vice President of the United States of America.”

And yet another who failed civics class

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Joe Hussein Mama

October 12th, 2012
1:18 pm
nelson — “Being rude,,insensitive, bullying, nasty, denigrating, mean sprited, aggresive, overbearing, condescending not to mention interrupting Paul 89 times, has given the administration optimism, not to mention the populace who expect to receive what is left of the money in the treasury. Imagine someone with those qualities in a position of making decisions.”

I’m thinking that you’re talking about Bush and Cheney

Please give us one example of president Bush ever being rude,insensitive, bullying, nasty, denigrating, mean sprited, aggresive, overbearing, condescending not to mention interrupting anyone. Just one or admit that you don;t have a clue. Just one. Eight years, just one.

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Doggone/GA

I had to look it up, and apparently there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the number of times an individual can be VP.

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“I had to look it up, and apparently there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the number of times an individual can be VP”

Well, I learned it in civics class. There is one limitation though, and Clinton had to school people about it when noises were made about him being VP to Gore. The VP has to be eligible to be President. Clinton is not eligible.

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“Kam

I think Ryan sealed it with the bicep pics yesterday.”

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Be careful, Bro. You’ll make Kam think Thulsa Doom is actually Ryan!

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And whatever you do, don’t comment that other’s comments are offensive…because you shouldn’t have read them if they were going to offend you.

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And whatever you do, don’t comment that other’s comments are offensive…because you shouldn’t have read them if they were going to offend you.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ offends me.

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Why was everything so funny?

vince, here’s some background.

Biden laughed at Ryan constantly, and it pissed a lot of people off. [Fornicate] them. It was the laugh of an old man who has heard enough bull[poop] to last ten lifetimes. Biden used to argue with Jesse Helms, one of the most craven, vile [legitimates] to ever set foot in DC. He went toe-to-toe with Bob Dole. He was locked in a death match with Orrin Hatch for years. You think that Ryan was gonna throw anything at him that he hasn’t heard before? It was the laugh of someone who sees through the con and wants everyone to know that he gets the joke. Biden laughed because he wanted to degrade the lies and half-answers that Ryan gave, because he wanted to turn Ryan into a laughingstock.

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Scout:
in my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death.
Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”
U.S. Navy SEAL Chris Kyle

“I have been to the front lines and seen the boys.
The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies,
the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of
any group of animals I have ever seen.

Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!”
~Eleanor Roosevelt

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It seems we’ll elect the best debator in the upcomming election. Therefore, I would suggest we begain, after the election, a national debating contest. Anyone qualified to become president is elligible. These debates will be held in every state and, using the process of elemination, we’ll eventually be down to two people. These two will then engage in 4 nationally televised debates. The media will decide the winner and he/she will be our next president.

It’s the new dumbed down American way.

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Erwin’s Cat/Doggone

I’m perfectly happy to scroll down. But what’s a good way to tell WHEN to scroll past an offensive comment, without reading it? I’ve figured out HOW to do it, but haven’t joined the ranks of those who have figured out WHEN, and the estimate of who all has (”The rest of us”) is likely a bit too high.

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“Probably a sock puppet or someone passing by who read what Scout has posted numerous times already today”

I wouldn’t be surprised.

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What’s REALLY funny is that the Cons don’t know which Mitt Romney they’re actually voting FOR in November! He backtracks his statements and lies about his varying positions week after week — why y’all may just be voting for a “severely Librul” come November!

LOL!

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“But what’s a good way to tell WHEN to scroll past an offensive comment, without reading it?”

Well, read them all until you figure out which posters are wasting your time. Then you just scroll past by looking at the name. And I would say the vast majority of the time the first 5 words will tell you if the rest is a waste of time to read.

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stands for decibels

that’s it? The best you got? LOL!

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lynnie gal – Biden wasn’t aggressive …he was clownish

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lynnie gal

Don’t remember many people cheering Romney but there were a hel- of lot whining about Obama. Still whining in fact.

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@ stands for decibels…” he wanted to turn Ryan into a laughingstock.”

Geez……How odd that his behavior had the exact opposite effect!

An ABC poll showed that 53% of those polled found Ryan “more likable” than the 43% for Biden. Worse, 50% found Ryan “expressed himself better” than the 41% who said Biden did so.

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@deegee: My, sensitive;kumbyyaw,food stamps, welfare, Romney was rude and Biden was….

I’m out:gotta go hit the State mandated, gdot-perpetuated traffic..YOWZA

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The second debate will be almost as important to Obama as the first debate was to Romney.

Yup. If Romney comes out swinging, has him playing Defense again, it’s all over……
~my 2 farthings

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Again it solidified that Biden was a Jack A**. Ryan had a plan and Biden could not SHUT UP long enough for us to hear it and the moderator was a joke. She could not control the debate.

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“bullying”

Bush ordering IAEA weapons inspectors out of Iraq in 2003 so we could start attacking. Saddam Hussein had allowed them in, which Bush had said was necessary if Hussein wanted to avoid military action.

“nasty”

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/youtube/bushfingerflip.htm

“denigrating”

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/bushvideos/youtube/bush-talent.htm

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“not to mention interrupting anyone”

He interrupted the whole country. There we were, at peace and experiencing annual budget surpluses, and he came along and interrupted that.

“Just one or admit that you don;t have a clue. Just one. Eight years, just one.”

I admit that you don’t have a clue, Righty.

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There we were, at peace… and grieving over 9/11

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Biden wasn’t laughing at serious subjects. He was laughing at the ridiculous talking points that Ryan was reduced to repeating. Biden and Ryan have been living and working together in the same town for 20 years. It’s not like they just met. Biden was prepared for a serious debate on the issues. The only time that Ryan talked about his record in congress was when he was forced to defend his plea for stimulus money. To make the charge that Biden was laughing at serious subjects is like making the charge that democrats think that they can eliminate the budget deficit by raising taxes on the rich.

The truth is that Biden was laughing at a not so serious subject, Paul Ryan. The truth is that democrats think that raising taxes on the rich is a starting point for negotiating a bipartisan plan for reducing the budget deficit.

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It’s so funny .. You check in on these liberal web sites and everyone is jumping up and down. You check out the normal sites and everyone is talking about Biden’s erratic, hyena-like performance. You should come out of your cocoons sometime. There’s a whole different world out there.

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TheyBoth Suck@2:55 – Normally I would say no whoppers period. But I saw President Obama on tv recently say both sides tell whoppers during the campaign, not right, but that is the way it is. Even he admitted that fact!

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I agree with you and Mr. Pierce completely, Jay. And if I may add just one more observation: Thank God that we have finally moved beyond that arena where glancing at one’s watch during a debate, as in the case of George Herbert Walker Bush, or sighing, as in Al Gore’s, could cause one to lose. Yup, we viewers have grown up!

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My bad… Forgot you cant help France with the birth rate. You Abort your kids like they do. Well now as I think about it, stay here. Less Libs Kids Less Lib Votes!

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theintelligentdesigner wow you forgot the intelligent thought! ITS A VP DEBATE SON WAKE UP!!

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Joe Hussein Mama the name …ok
Once y’all ……. ok
Ill bet anyone this Lib has an Obama Phone! lol

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Not that I give damn a which of the Two Turds wins in November; I found it interesting that my wife got so PO’d at Biden-Busey’s antics that she announced that she was going to vote this election after all. Way to send an independent woman to the polls to vote for Romney there Biden.

I told her that if she intended to vote for Romney now, I would not be riding/driving in the same car with her.

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BO….it just stinks

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‘A performance like that just isn’t in Obama’s nature’…
you are right jay, obama’s own words and vision are much more radical than joe just being joe so if hussein shows who he really is like joe did, it would be disastrous……just like i told you his words would be for the dem party for a year now…….glad you are finally hearing that…….expect the contempt to be dripping off hussein next week……works well for this conservative………..

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“Mitt Romney is going to be our next President. Since the debate, his poll numbers have skyrocketed both nationally and in every key swing state.”

So a few points over the opponent (after trailing for the entire campaign season) and electoral estimates still behind make him the winner??? HAHAHAHA!!! And it’s early yet. We have two more presidential debates and a –gasp– election day to get through. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings, and she hasn’t warmed up just yet. Don’t forget, Bush lost the popular vote in 2000 but still squeaked it by us.

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As indicated by these posts, Biden and Ryan did exactly what they needed to… fire up their respective bases. This is no longer a fight for undecided voters… there is no way anyone could legitimately be undecided at this point considering the sharp contrasts that have been drawn. It is all about getting base voter turnout.

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Goldie, yea I.m still going for a change. I’m so damn tired of hearing “look what we inherited”. Goldie I will bet you a million {if I had it} if O’bama gets relected, God help the one following him with what that president inherits? And Mick, you happen to beleive what Clinton said? Correct me if I’m wrong but is he the one that pointed his finger at the T.V camera and said “I did not have sex with that woman”? You go right ahead and beleive him. I don’t! The 47% deal? Romney spoke the truth. 47 % of the people in this country are on the take. He just spoke the damn TRUTH! But no, we can’t say that it may hurt someones feelings. Folks if we all don’t wise up and stop putting up with the B.S. from ALL politicans our country is doomed.

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Thousands of civilians and thousands of military die under Bush due to Al- Quaida and the administrations gross incompetence.. Four Americans unfortunately die under Obama from a sneak attack by an Al Quaida wannabee group when our Ambassador wanders from the embassy in Tripoli to a private residence in Benghazi and the cons are catawauling like Obama cannot be trusted to deal with terrorists, What a bunch of malarkey, horse BS and a few other names.

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Fair and balanced:

Re; 8:37pm post.

You need remedial English composition.

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Joe is who he is a BUFFOON and a disgrace to the office

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Rootbeer Romney and Milktoast Ryan are too WEAK .
Romney is a Chickenhawk, more WARS to kill American sons.

Biden was tough, honest and smart, stood up for real Americans…won my vote.

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Get used to it Libs……………….President Romney………..8 years

LOL Woot!

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Anyone who votes for Obama is drinking the Kool aid or just plain OUT OF TOUCH! Libs move to France, we dont need you. You can help France with thier birth rate. Oh wait I forgot you kill your young. Matter of fact please stay here so we can watch you murder your own. Woot less Lib voters. Abort away!

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