An off-beat – but very on beat – way to start the party
OK, bear with me, because things are going to start off a little strange this Friday afternoon and evening, but I think you’re going to like it. The group we’re going to feature to get this weekend started is called Staff Benda Bilili.
Here’s how Wikipedia tells their story:
Staff Benda Bilili are a group of street musicians in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They used to live around the grounds of the zoo in the country’s capital city, Kinshasa, and play music which is rooted in rumba, with elements of old-school rhythm ‘n’ blues and reggae. The core of the band consists of four senior singers/guitarists, who are paraplegic (they had poliomyelitis when they were young) and move around in spectacularly customized tricycles. They are backed by a younger rhythm section consisting of abandoned street children who were taken under the protection of the older members of the band. The soloist is an 18 year-old boy (2009) who plays guitar-like solos on an electrified one-stringed lute he designed and built himself out of a tin can. The group’s name translates roughly from Lingala as “look beyond appearances.”
And this is what they sound like:
Sometimes you look around the world and you think that as a species, we can be pretty screwed up. And at other times, you see something like these guys and you think we might be OK after all.
– Jay Bookman
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kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
8:05 pm
taxpayer, 7:51,
Spare us. Mansions and dinner parties. When will the envy end? Koch has broken no laws or someone like our Justice Dept and Holder would have arrested them long ago. They are working within the framework that our legislators in Congress have deemed lawful. If you have a beef about how much they contribute to a political candidate, take it with the Supreme Court and Congress. You are so against someone having success in their life. Envy? Don’t know what but you are troubled.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
8:08 pm
And everyone KNOWS that the office of President has everything to do with the gas prices!! The gas companies? Not so much………
josef
October 14th, 2012
8:10 pm
No doubt the gap between the haves and the have nots has widened. But would the gap be any less under another administration?
THULSA
Just call me an isolationist!
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:12 pm
Brocephus,
And in my fantasy world I suppose a white Dem candidate would have won over a corruption ridden candidate like say Marion Barry or Kwame Kilpatrick huh? I never said that blacks vote exclusively based on color btw. But I’m sure some of them given the chance will vote for the black guy just cause he’s black. Just as some whites will vote for a white guy for the same reason.
But I do see numerous examples of con blacks winning in white con districts, the black female mayor of Salt Lake City Mia Love, Allan West, JC Watts, and others.And Herman Cain was making a serious move in the R primaries before the sex allegations came up. Now maybe I am mistaken but I don’t see too many white Dems that have been voted in over black Dems in heavily majority black cities or congressional districts. I’m sure they probably exist. I just don’t know of any.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
8:12 pm
If you think things are bad now, just wait until 2525. That’s when things really start going downhill.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:13 pm
As for gas your paying twice as much as 4 years ago
Let’s take a closer look at that statement….
Now, this isn’t exact to the date, but it’s within a week of the 4 year timeline, and within 2 weeks of today.
http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2008/10/gas-prices.html
October 6, 2008
Regular gasoline/gallon
Price: $3.48 Down .15 from previous week
http://news.consumerreports.org/cars/2012/10/average-gas-prices-oct-1-2012.html
October 1, 2012
Regular gasoline/gallon
Price: $3.80 Down .02 from previous week
Given, those are national averages, but they are far from anywhere near prices being twice as much as 4 years ago. One simply has to look at the calendar and count 4 actual years to debunk that idea. Four years ago October, the stock market crashed and we really began to see the bottom falling out. October 2008 was the second month of 400,000 plus jobs lost too.
That’s why the whole 4 year ago argument is bull. Four years ago, Bush was still in charge and we had no idea of how bad things were about to get as the bottom was just falling from below our feet.
josef
October 14th, 2012
8:14 pm
The problem with the Koch-Trump-et al lot is that they have no class. They’re cheap, tacky and trashy with no sense of noblesse oblige. Parvenu upstarts. Vulgar. Ignorant. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
8:15 pm
When will your strawmen end, kayaker. The Kochs have broken laws and they’ve had their little wrists slapped and they whine about it and try to get rid of all those mean people that get in their way. You are the troubled one, kayaker.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:17 pm
And everyone knows that with all the money printing and QE that inflation means that oil and gas prices are going to be higher under this president. How someone doesn’t recognize that is beyond me. And everyone knows that stopping or slowing down new drilling projects is going to lessen supply and hence raise gas prices. Well not quite everyone. That supply and demand thing just escapes a few of em. And everyone knows that when W lifted the moratorium on drilling that the price of a barrel of oil dropped $10 overnight.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
8:18 pm
pare us. Mansions and dinner parties. When will the envy end?
Envy has changed history and the world……..
Like the French Revolution — “Let them eat cake”.
Or the Russian Revolution — Bolshevik uprising – all started because of “envy”.
Beware of envy 1% — 99% have WAY more people than you do…..
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
8:19 pm
joseph, 8:03,
Probably one of your best posts. If we invested our resources into education of those who are in need, we would go a long way toward getting our house in order. The playing field is not level. And that is what many of the have nots in our society rail on about. But it also takes drive, determination and a dedication to succeed that is difficult to achieve with those that need it most. I remember numerous residents in training where the lack of confidence in what they could do was severely lacking. Most of them never had a mentor that took them by the hand and guided them to succeed. We are ignoring the very asset that we need the most to maintain our continued success….. our young people. Anyone with the knowledge to run a gang on the South side of Chicago and manage to run a multi-million dollar business in drug trafficking could do most anything they want in life if just given the guidance and opportunity to do it. Again, good post.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:20 pm
Now maybe I am mistaken but I don’t see too many white Dems that have been voted in over black Dems in heavily majority black cities or congressional districts.
Maybe I’m mistaken, but I don’t see many White Dems actually running in heavily majority Black cities or congressional districts. In order to prove your point, you actually have to prove that it even exists.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2012/May/17/endangered__white_democrats_in_ala__legislature.html
White Democrats opposed to new legislative districts designed by Republicans said they will turn the Legislature into a body of white Republicans and black Democrats.
The Legislature’s special session on redistricting opened Thursday with the Republican-dominated reapportionment committee voting along party lines to recommend districts that House and Senate committees will consider Friday.
House Minority Leader Craig Ford and Senate Minority Leader Roger Bedford said the recommended districts appear designed to get rid of several of the 18 white Democrats in the Legislature either by making their districts more Republican or by combining the white Democrats into districts with veteran black Democratic incumbents.
Story posted May 17, 2012
getalife
October 14th, 2012
8:22 pm
4.25 gas under w doomy.
Self reflect for a moment and think to tell me why do you fight for Americans that do not need help from any American.
Do tell.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:22 pm
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/11/04/election_nearly_wipes_out_white_southern_democrats/
WASHINGTON—The white Southern Democrat — endangered since the 1960s civil rights era — is sliding nearer to extinction.
After this week’s elections, the Democratic Party barely holds a presence in the region outside of majority-black urban areas such as Atlanta and Memphis. The carnage for the party was particularly brutal in the Deep South, where just one white Democrat survived across Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina.
The Republicans’ effort to win over the South, rooted decades ago in a strategy to capitalize on white voters’ resentment of desegregation, is all but complete.
“Right now in most of Dixie it is culturally unacceptable to be a Democrat. It’s a damn shame, but that’s the way it is,” said Dave “Mudcat” Saunders, a campaign strategist for conservative Democrats such as Jim Webb of Virginia, one of the few remaining Southern Democratic senators.
The losses were particularly disappointing for the party after the baby steps it made in the South in 2006 and 2008, when it picked up a host of Republican-leaning House districts and won Senate seats in North Carolina and Virginia. Many thought the party had learned its lessons and had begun to reverse recent history by nominating conservative candidates who hit the right notes on divisive social issues such as abortion and smaller government.
None of it mattered Tuesday.
Democrats didn’t just see most of their recent gains obliterated, they lost at least 19 Southern House members and a senator, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas. Even some of the most conservative Democrats such as four-term Rep. Jim Marshall of Georgia and 10-term Rep. Gene Taylor of Mississippi couldn’t withstand the wave. It also snared such veterans as John Spratt of South Carolina, the 14-term chairman of the House Budget Committee, and 14-term Rep. Rick Boucher of Virginia.
When the new Congress convenes in January, there will be at most 16 white Southern Democratic House members out of 105 seats in Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, the Carolinas, Virginia, Tennessee and Kentucky. Two races in Virginia and Kentucky were still too close to call, so the total could be as low as 14.
November 4, 2010
G Mare
October 14th, 2012
8:23 pm
Getalife@7:40, mailed my absentee ballot today.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012. And NO on school amendment!
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
8:23 pm
Debbie, 8:18,
Be glad you can live in a country where you can also have mansions and dinner parties. It’s all out there, my dear……. just for the taking.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:24 pm
If you’re wondering where the stories came from, I simply put “White Democrats representing majority Black areas” into a Yahoo search.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:27 pm
“Barack Obama was sworn in as president on January 20, 2009. In the week that ended on January 19, 2009, the weekly retail gasoline price in the U.S. was $1.90/gallon. Most people don’t remember that given the recent history of high gasoline prices, but I will get to that.”
http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/2012/09/15/gasoline-prices-doubled-under-obama-true-or-false/
Brocephus,
Was that about easily debunked? I said $1.81 because that’s what I think it was here in GA. The national average was $1.90. I stand vindicated. Gas prices are in fact roughly double what they were 4 years ago. No spinning around this one by picking a point in time that fits your narrative.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
8:29 pm
Bro @ 8:13 — STOP giving facts to cons!! You want their heads to burst open or, worse yet, you want them to start melting?
josef
October 14th, 2012
8:29 pm
KAYAKER
“Anyone with the knowledge to run a gang on the South side of Chicago and manage to run a multi-million dollar business in drug trafficking could do most anything they want in life if just given the guidance and opportunity to do it.”
My point exactly. I remember one of my kids several years ago who was, let’s just say an IQ over the 150 range and street wise, already at age 8 targeted as a future leader by the criminal class (i.e. the Kennedys
) I was trying to teach him about the stock market, investments, red-black in the ledger books and what have you. Anyway, his Mama came to talk to me and put it this way, “I don’t delude myself that he’s not going to be a criminal. I just want him to be a Fortune 500 corporate raider, not a street corner drug pusher.”
Today? Oddly enough the little snot nose went on to become a policeman and is now a detective. His car and house out in the suburbs? Well, he didn’t get it from his public sector paycheck. I guess I ought not to take so much pride in having taught him the lessons in how to launder money. But, well, that was in history class and my mention of Great Granny Martha and her “reconstruction!” He was less interested in the socio-political than the economic and money laundering!
getalife
October 14th, 2012
8:29 pm
G Mare,
“OBAMA/BIDEN 2012″
Thank you. Felt good didn’t it?
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:30 pm
April 25, 2012
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — A Republican redistricting plan for the Mississippi House would increase black majority districts at the expense of white Democratic lawmakers.
The plan, released Wednesday and approved by the House Elections Committee, could come to a vote as soon as Thursday. A Senate plan has yet to be released.
“It’s fair and it complies with the law,” said Reapportionment Committee Chairman Rep. Bill Denny, R-Jackson. The chairman of the Joint Reapportionment Committee read his statement word-for-word in three separate meetings Wednesday. He said districts are more tightly drawn and that fewer counties and precincts are split.
House Republicans, who gained control of the body for the first time this year, could increase their 64-58 margin if their plan is approved. However, legislative redistricting is already under challenge in a federal lawsuit and Democrats indicated they would introduce their own plan on the floor of the House.
The GOP tilt is obvious in the three pairs of white Democratic incumbents who could be forced to run against each other in the next state election, as well as the white Democrat drawn into a Republican district. But efforts to snuff out what was once Mississippi’s dominant political species run deeper.
The plan divides Mississippi’s voters into 79 districts that have a voting-age population that’s less than 35 percent black, and 42 districts whose voting-age population is more than 50 percent black.
Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Miss-House-redistricting-targets-white-Democrats-3509611.php#ixzz29K60aNpW
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:32 pm
http://www.free-times.com/index.php?cat=1992912064017974&ShowArticle_ID=11011506112976262
A Republican plan to re-draw district lines in South Carolina attempts to squeeze out certain white Democrats and increase the number of Republicans in the state Senate from 27 to 31.
If it works, the plan would create a filibuster-proof majority among Republicans in the upper chamber.
….
The apparent strategy is to consolidate Democratic districts together, thus pushing one Democratic senator out of each. For instance, the plan would put Sheheen in the same district as Fairfield County Democrat Creighton Coleman.
….
Another strategy appears to be to make Democratic Senate districts lean more Republican by shifting district lines, such as in the case of Horry County’s Dick Elliot and Sumter’s Phil Leventis.
The six Democrats representing the districts at issue are white.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:34 pm
Doom
Today is October 14, 2012. Four years ago, it was October 2008 and not January 2009. You’re talking more than a 3 month difference between four years ago vs when Obama got elected. Why not frame your argument as a factual statement then? As I stated earler, four years ago we were still under the Bush Administration.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
8:34 pm
US natural gas wellhead price was $6.82 per thousand cubic feet in January 2001 and it was $2.59 in July 2012.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:35 pm
Brocephus,
Are you trying to make my point about white Democrats losing? You certainly seem to be. Only 14 or maybe 16 of them left in the south.Looks like they are having a hard time getting elected.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
8:36 pm
Again:
And everyone KNOWS that the office of President has everything to do with the gas prices!! The gas companies? Not so much………
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:40 pm
Are you trying to make my point about white Democrats losing?
Are you seeing why they are losing?? They are being forced to run against each other OR they are being forced to run in districts that are designed to go Republican. You only seek to confirm what you think instead of reading everything there.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 14th, 2012
8:41 pm
And everyone knows that with all the money printing… [...] And everyone knows that stopping or slowing…[...] And everyone knows that when….
You don’t have the authority to go boom in your diaper and claim that I had anything to do with it.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:42 pm
DDR
You know the gas price control switch is in the basement of the West Wing.
Funny that people who chastised people for claiming the president controlled gas prices under the previous administration are currently arguing the polar opposite under this administration. The things that a switch in party control brings out. Same thing can be said for some on the opposite side too.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:43 pm
Brocephus,
Perhaps I should have clarified since you’re a stickler for detail. Since the day O came into office through today gas prices have roughly doubled. Happy now?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:46 pm
Funny how Nancy Pelosi and people on here who complained about gas prices and all those oil men in the white house when W was president are so silent today when gas prices are near record highs. Its amazing what a switch in party control brings out.
josef
October 14th, 2012
8:46 pm
THULSA
And the oil companies are rolling in it…sounds like Obama is their bestest friend in the whole wide world…
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:48 pm
Doom
Doesn’t make me happy or sad. I’ll simply say that you make a factual claim now as opposed to before. You may not have seen it, but I’ve stated my disgust with that whole “four year ago” argument for that very reason. It’s easily debunked by simply looking at a calendar. My four year old can do that. I don’t consider it being a stickler for detail. I see it as being a stickler for fact.
As one who claims to know so much, I figured you’d care a bit more about being factually correct than what you were saying.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:49 pm
Kamspam with another non-brilliant debate point. Something about boom and diapers. He’ll make some sorta sense one day. We hope anyway. Maybe…
getalife
October 14th, 2012
8:50 pm
cons never answer the question of why they help those that need no help. Too tough to answer I guess.
They can’t even cut big oil welfare so shut up about gads prices doomy.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
8:51 pm
One should think that the very least we could get from our trillion dollar Iraq war would be lower gas prices.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
8:54 pm
Taxpayer
we did get lower gas prices
for the Iraqis.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:54 pm
Brocephus,
Be serious man. When some of us are referencing 4 years ago its not technically 4 years yet since O walked into office. Obviously. Some of us whether its lib or con are thinking in terms of when the Obama presidency began. Of course its not 4 years as of yet but its fairly close. Seems to me that you’re just nitpicking regarding a technicality. But lesson learned. Instead of just saying 4 years ago I will state since the day O came into office. Much lengthier but at least we’ll be on the same page.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
8:57 pm
A loss of refinery capacity in the US has been a major contributor to higher refined product prices. Of course, that is how that supply and demand portion of capitalism works.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:58 pm
josef,
Yeah. That’s the irony. The oil companies are rolling in it. Thank God W isn’t potus or else we would never hear the end of the nonsense about the Rs and big oil colluding to screw us all.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 14th, 2012
9:01 pm
We hope anyway.
(shrug)
I am not so insecure as to call upon the unauthorized consent of “we” and “everyone”.
Maybe if you concentrated less on making “boom”….
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:02 pm
Buy shares of oil companies and refiners if you want in on the high gas price action. Profit off of your neighbor’s oil consumption. And if you really want to get them, convince them that big SUV’s are the bestest mode of transportation.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:04 pm
Thulsa Doom
Big Oil doesn’t have to collude, one just raises the
price a penny, the others
follow and they rake in
billions while we get the
shaft but at least it is oily.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:05 pm
And a new refinery hasn’t been built since the 1970s I think it is. Wonder why?
Could it be gubment red tape?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/09/business/09refinery.html?_r=0
Even so, Mr. McGinnis – an industry veteran who joined Arizona Clean Fuels last year as chief executive to give the project more heft against long odds – cleared a significant hurdle recently when Arizona awarded him a crucial emissions permit. Still ahead are countless rounds of negotiations with local, state and federal agencies to secure dozens more permits.
“Countless rounds” of negotiations and red tape to get more permits?
“So far, the effort has consumed six years and $30 million, with precious little to show for it.”
But but but the liberals say govt regulation and red tape is not an issue.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:07 pm
barking frog,
Well I reckons you got a point there. At least they screw us with a well lubricated shaft.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:09 pm
Something puzzles me about the GOP tax mantra. Why do Republicans continually call for lower federal income taxes for the wealthiest but do not call for lower payroll taxes or lower gas taxes or lower sales taxes or lower property taxes for everyone. If you are against taxes shouldn’t you speak out for reducing all taxes. Who are Republicans representing. And if the Republicans are going to claim that the so-called job creators need lower taxes so they can create jobs, wouldn’t it wise on their part to get a contractual commitment from the job creators.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:11 pm
“Maybe if you concentrated less on making “boom”….”
Sez the poster who has mentioned “boom” twice already this evening while I have not. Sound like Kammypoo has his usual unhealthy obsession with Doom’s “b–m”.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:13 pm
Those darned regulations. You know you can’t even release benzene into the atmosphere any more. It costs money to prevent that. And spills. Don’t even get me going about how much it costs to cut down on those.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:13 pm
If President Obama loses
this election he may be the
only democratic President
in history to not raise taxes,
unless you count Obamacare as a tax.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
9:14 pm
Be serious man.
I am serious man. The GOP started that argument after Obama had been in office a little over three years. It’s a completely faulty argument, regardless to what you think it insinuates. You can say whatever you want to say. The only time I have a problem with it is if you’re claiming to speak the truth and your argument is faulty. If you start off with a faulty premise, then your entire argument is worthless.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:17 pm
“Maybe I’m mistaken, but I don’t see many White Dems actually running in heavily majority Black cities or congressional districts.”
Brocephus,
And did it occur to you that maybe even a liberal white Democrat doesn’t think he can win head to head versus a black Democrat in a heavily black district?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:20 pm
“wouldn’t it wise on their part to get a contractual commitment from the job creators.”
And how would we do that? Create a new govt agency that assigns job hiring quotas to private businesses and tells them they must hire x amount of employees in line with that agency’s dictates- whether the employer needs that employee or not?
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
9:22 pm
And did it occur to you that maybe even a liberal white Democrat doesn’t think he can win head to head versus a black Democrat in a heavily black district?
And why fault race then if it’s somebody’s lack of courage or testicular fortitude that’s keeping them from doing something? That’s the same thing I fault the Conservative White Republicans for. They b*tch and whine about how Blacks vote for Democrats, but how many do you actually see try to make any serious attempts to reach out to urban Blacks? Demonizing and/or castigating people isn’t reaching out, and it will not likely end up with you getting much support at the ballot box.
It’s almost like y’all wanna fault Blacks for everything wrong in the world but don’t want to make the effort to try to figure out what the problem is.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:23 pm
“You know you can’t even release benzene into the atmosphere any more. It costs money to prevent that. And spills.”
Oh lordy, Someone help TP to the fainting couch.We’re right back to the “Republicans want dirtier air and water” hyperbole again.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
9:23 pm
frog,
Our President cut taxes many times and the gop can prove they want to help the middle class with another tax cut but refused.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
9:25 pm
Ask any con why they help Americans that need no help and watch them squirm.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:26 pm
getalife
That is correct.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:27 pm
“but how many do you actually see try to make any serious attempts to reach out to urban Blacks? Demonizing and/or castigating people isn’t reaching out, and it will not likely end up with you getting much support at the ballot box.”
Brocephus,
They’ve made serious attempts. But unfortunately its not working too well and the Republican message does not resonate. Mitt spoke at the NAACP this year. The last serious effort I saw was when Bush 1 spoke at Morehouse I think it was. The students openly disrespected him by closing their eyes, staring at the floor, rolling their eyes, showing total disinterest. After that the Rs pretty much just realized it was a waste of time for the most part. You can’t make someone hear who refuses to listen to you. That dialogue is a 2 way street brocephus.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:27 pm
And how would we do that? Create a new govt agency that assigns job hiring quotas to private businesses and tells them they must hire x amount of employees in line with that agency’s dictates- whether the employer needs that employee or not?
If the Republicans wish to continue to make the faux claim that these wealthiest will create jobs if only they can get more relief from their tax burden, then let them back it up with a commitment that will hold up in court.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:32 pm
“It’s almost like y’all wanna fault Blacks for everything wrong in the world”
We wanna fault blacks for “everything wrong in the world”? Are you freaking kidding me? There are wayyyyyyyy too many white people to blame for the problems of the world before we even get to black people. And frankly I don’t see how the majority of the world’s problems could be attributed to Africa itself or to only 40 million African Americans in the U.S. Don’t worry bro. You’re wayyyyyyyy down the totem pole on the to blame list.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:34 pm
I posted no hyperbole regarding the release of benzene, Thulsa. You should educate yourself on its toxicity and even on the release of benzene before you make another one of your signature comments..
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
9:36 pm
Kam is too nice to say that someone is mostly just talking sh##t and dropping it into their diapers. he’s such a gentleman….
SoCoBro: You know the gas price control switch is in the basement of the West Wing
It’s right next to the Bat Signal and the red button that calls Superman in to save the day!
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:37 pm
“then let them back it up with a commitment that will hold up in court.’
TP, I don’t see how that would be constitutional. Or enforceable. And it looks to me like you’re coming from it from the perspective that you’re “giving” these people something and that in return for what you are “giving” them you expect something in return. You’re not “giving” them anything in the way of lower taxes. You’re just taking less of their money- money that they and their businesses earned. You didn’t earn it, the gubment didn’t earn it. They did. And that money is theirs first and foremost and not yours. Though you try as you may to use the power of the vote to redistribute that money to yourself.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:39 pm
Well of course Kamchak is a gentleman. That’s why he made a joke about my puppy getting run over- cause he’s a gentleman. And apparently a comedian too in his own eyes.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:41 pm
Thulsa,
Republicans make the claim that the job creators need the tax cuts in order to create the jobs. I simply say to them to back up their lies. I know they cannot. You apparently believe they can. If you truly believe they can then you should be willing to push for a commitment since you must also believe that they have nothing to lose by making such a commitment. It’s a sure thing, right. No gamble at all, right.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:43 pm
Taxpayer,
Nobody that I know of is against reasonable and safe regulations regarding Benzene and other dangerous chemicals. You’re putting up a red herring sir. What I’m talking about is that it shouldn’t take years and years of jumping through permitting hoops and govt red tape to build one single damn refinery. Did you see the article. Its been 6 years and millions of dollars and they still had numerous hurdles to overcome. We all want the environment and people to be safe but it shouldn’t take that long and be that damn difficult dealing with the govt just to get one damn plant built. Its ridiculous.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:43 pm
Oil is a naturally occurring
solution, organic, but
when it or one of its
components spill onto the
earth from which it came
a tragedy occurs.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:47 pm
TP,
I see what you’re saying but neither you nor I nor the govt can enforce our view of how many jobs they should create. You can’t make someone create a job when there’s no work to do. If and when they feel the economy is picking up and they have the demand for more work they will in fact hire. But it doesn’t seem they have that confidence in the economy under this president.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:47 pm
A law should be passed to
stop these volcanoes from
erupting all over everything,
or at least a regulation to
limit their emissions.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:50 pm
Nobody that I know of is against reasonable and safe regulations regarding Benzene and other dangerous chemicals.
I don’t know the Koch crooks, et al, personally either. As for taking years to get through government red tape, if it saves lives that’s a good thing.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
9:51 pm
Mitt spoke at the NAACP this year.
The NAACP doesn’t speak to all Black Americans, nor do all Black Americans belong to or embrace the message.
The students openly disrespected him by closing their eyes, staring at the floor, rolling their eyes, showing total disinterest.
As with the NAACP, students don’t represent ALL of urban America Doom. Blaming one segment for everybody is pretty weak, even for you.
As long as the background noise coming from the Right is one that is unwelcoming for the average Black person, you won’t get Black support. I’m not talking about candidates either. When you have people, like Ann Coulter rewriting history and getting kudos for doing so, you basically spit in the face of those who actually do know the history of this country.
When supporters label people as leeches and other stuff, you’re not going to get support from the community.
After that the Rs pretty much just realized it was a waste of time for the most part. You can’t make someone hear who refuses to listen to you.
And so, the whining will continue on because of the defeatist attitude of Conservatives. If Black support was something they truly wanted, they wouldn’t be such pansies and give up so quickly. Making token gestures simply to reinforce stereotypical beliefs don’t help out much.
Are you freaking kidding me? There are wayyyyyyyy too many white people to blame for the problems of the world before we even get to black people.
Need I remind you of how hard you wanted to argue me about percentages of populations on welfare when I brought up the point to you a ways back that there were more Whites on welfare than Blacks? When I pointed that out and that Whites cost more in welfare dollars, you kept going back to the point that as a percentage to population, there are more Blacks on welfare.
You keep telling yourself that. You make so many different arguments here that I honestly don’t think you remember half the stuff you say. You’ve done the very thing that you say is waaaaaaayyyyyyy down the list. I don’t tend to forget those kinds of things. If I knew exactly where to find those statements, I’d pull them up right now just to see you try to wiggle your way out of it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
9:52 pm
Well I see Doom is still spreading lies and false claims. But that easy when his goal is to be the leader on the pompous board…..dancing…Doomdunce style
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 14th, 2012
9:52 pm
Well of course Kamchak is a gentleman. That’s why he made a joke about my puppy getting run over- cause he’s a gentleman.
(shrug)
You were the one that played the “dead puppy”card not me.
You were the one that swore on the death of your dead puppy that you would stop being you.
I didn’t believe it then, I don’t believe it now.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:54 pm
barking frog,
Rush Limbaugh already proposed that law regarding fining and penalizing volcanoes for emitting all that sulfur dioxide and other greenhouse gasses into the air. To date the volcanoes are refusing to be regulated. They’re an ornery bunch.
The ocean floor also needs to be regulated for all the oil and gas emissions that it emits into the ocean. We just got to figure out a way to get down there and regulate and fine it.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
9:54 pm
When I was a child I drank
a half glass of kerosene.
It didn’t hurt me but since
then I cannot tell if a glass
is half empty or half full.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
9:55 pm
Lets try another simple question.
Why will you pay 8 grand to pay for another tax cut for the wealthy?
Is a vote for mitt worth 8 grand?
You have skin in this game.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:56 pm
If the job creators cannot commit to creating jobs (that will lead to more taxes being paid by new hires to help offset the loss of tax revenues from the job creators) in exchange for more tax cuts, then we are better off collecting the taxes and using that money to pay for things like the debt and the military, etc. Cuts will not pay off the debt and fund the very things that the job creators want funded as well.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
9:58 pm
Kamchak,
I tried. I really did. But you and keep decided to continue your jackassery. The 2 of you lost your civility privileges. End of story. Don’t worry though. You didn’t hurt my feelings with the joking about the puppy. I actually felt sorry for you that you’re that kind of a person. You upset G-mare a bit but as for me it was just the expected nastiness that one would expect from you. You were just being you of course.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
9:58 pm
They b*tch and whine about how Blacks vote for Democrats, but how many do you actually see try to make any serious attempts to reach out to urban Blacks?
What you talkin bout SoCoBro? Newt himself said he’d be more than happy to stand in front of the NAACP and ask them why “their people” wanted to get foodstamps rather than jobs.
Duh!
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
9:59 pm
The ocean floor also needs to be regulated for all the oil and gas emissions that it emits into the ocean. We just got to figure out a way to get down there and regulate and fine it.
Actually BP and company are the only ones that need regulating. Unless you know of some natural leaks that dumped anything close to what BP dumped in the Gulf.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 14th, 2012
9:59 pm
When I was a child I drank
a half glass of kerosene.
Tadpoles have opposable thumbs?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:00 pm
“then we are better off collecting the taxes and using that money to pay for things like the debt and the military”
Taxpayer,
And on that point you just might be right.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
10:03 pm
A supporter of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was spotted wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the words “Put the white back in the White House” at a campaign event this week
You mean this is not reaching out.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
10:03 pm
Thulsa Doom
I have not listened to Rush
so I did not know that. He
sounds like the kinda guy
that would call a caldera a
caldera. The ocean can be
fined a lot of fish but I
think the Japanese are
doing that in retaliation
for the tsunami.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:04 pm
TP,
The BP spill was bad but the ocean regularly emits more oil than what the BP spill did. The difference of course is that its emitted in very small amounts throughout all the oceans of the world and distributed widely and then easily roken down and dispersed because its not concentrated.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
DDR
And when one can’t see or refuses to see the issue that comes from the choice of words used to convey the message, they will never understand the ramifications of their speech.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
10:06 pm
Ahhh, Doom is blaming others (and falsely at that) instead of taking personal responsibility for his failure to live up to his pledges. Dance Doomduck style
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:07 pm
barking frog,
I was kidding about Rush-> kamchak disclaimer to let you know I was kidding and not serious.
But I did hear him one time years ago whining about the climate change thing and saying something about volcanoes because of the enormous amounts that Mt. St. Helens spewed. He might have said something about regulating them in jest. Wouldn’t suprise me.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
10:08 pm
Kamchak
No thumbs but three fingers, one of which is
currently in use.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:08 pm
keep up the sorry fight,
Ya did it to yourself missy. At least I tried to be civil though. You on the other hand…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 14th, 2012
10:10 pm
No thumbs but three fingers, one of which is
currently in use.
T-M-I!
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:10 pm
“Put the white back in the White House”
Must have been kamchak working undercover as a plant.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
10:11 pm
Y’all have fun… Quittin’ time here.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
10:12 pm
By May 30, the Deepwater Horizon site had released between 468,000 and 741,000 barrels of oil from the single point source, compared to 60,000 to 150,000 barrels from natural seeps across the entire 615,000 mi² Gulf of Mexico over the same 39 day period. Governor Jindal should have been complaining about all that natural seepage making its way to the shoreline instead of focusing on BP.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
10:14 pm
Kamchak
Too-Much-Imagination.
Merely pointing.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
10:15 pm
I’m out too. Someone keep a tally of overnight converts to each political party so I’ll know where we left off.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
10:15 pm
Thulsa Doom
Can Kamchak imitate a
plant ?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
10:16 pm
TP,
Well now you’re getting technical. Jindal would have to share regulating the Gulf’s natural seepage with the other governors in addition to Feds and on top of that all the Carribbean and Latin nations that border or are in the gulf.
Ahem
October 14th, 2012
10:18 pm
A Chart. Maybe Bookman will use it tomorrow, and then, maybe not. And all the while, Al Gore has enriched himself while NOT practicing the things he demands of others, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Global warming stopped 16 years ago, reveals Met Office report quietly released… and here is the chart to prove it
The figures reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures
This means that the ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996
…The new data, compiled from more than 3,000 measuring points on land and sea, was issued quietly on the internet, without any media fanfare, and, until today, it has not been reported.
This stands in sharp contrast to the release of the previous figures six months ago, which went only to the end of 2010 – a very warm year.
Ending the data then means it is possible to show a slight warming trend since 1997, but 2011 and the first eight months of 2012 were much cooler, and thus this trend is erased.…
…Others disagreed. Professor Judith Curry, who is the head of the climate science department at America’s prestigious Georgia Tech university, told The Mail on Sunday that it was clear that the computer models used to predict future warming were ‘deeply flawed’.
Even Prof Jones admitted that he and his colleagues did not understand the impact of ‘natural variability’ – factors such as long-term ocean temperature cycles and changes in the output of the sun. However, he said he was still convinced that the current decade would end up significantly warmer than the previous two.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2217286/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-reveals-Met-Office-report-quietly-released–chart-prove-it.html