An off-beat – but very on beat – way to start the party
OK, bear with me, because things are going to start off a little strange this Friday afternoon and evening, but I think you’re going to like it. The group we’re going to feature to get this weekend started is called Staff Benda Bilili.
Here’s how Wikipedia tells their story:
Staff Benda Bilili are a group of street musicians in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They used to live around the grounds of the zoo in the country’s capital city, Kinshasa, and play music which is rooted in rumba, with elements of old-school rhythm ‘n’ blues and reggae. The core of the band consists of four senior singers/guitarists, who are paraplegic (they had poliomyelitis when they were young) and move around in spectacularly customized tricycles. They are backed by a younger rhythm section consisting of abandoned street children who were taken under the protection of the older members of the band. The soloist is an 18 year-old boy (2009) who plays guitar-like solos on an electrified one-stringed lute he designed and built himself out of a tin can. The group’s name translates roughly from Lingala as “look beyond appearances.”
And this is what they sound like:
Sometimes you look around the world and you think that as a species, we can be pretty screwed up. And at other times, you see something like these guys and you think we might be OK after all.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
October 14th, 2012
12:42 pm
getalife
The Petraeus run may be
getting in the way of good
intel or even influencing it.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
12:50 pm
Brocephus,
Well at least one of the 2 statements at least has some empirical data to back up the belief. What empirical evidence does keep’s blanket statement have to support his conclusion?
getalife
October 14th, 2012
12:54 pm
frog,
The outing of the CIA facility in the gop political hearing is like the outing of insider trading in corrupt congress.
Americans don’t care because they are focused on their team winning this election.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
1:06 pm
“Arlen Specter Dies” Aol.
JamVet
October 14th, 2012
1:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIVQMJB9FQE
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
1:31 pm
Well at least one of the 2 statements at least has some empirical data to back up the belief.
Actually, neither one has data to back it up. I don’t know of any study that’s been done that can actually decipher why Blacks voted for Obama. I also don’t know of any study that’s been done that can prove that rich people donate just to take advantage of the tax write off.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
1:39 pm
Doom, I’ll get back to you as soon as you back up your claim that I made that statement on Thursday night with a link…. or apologize.
Are doing your Doomdumb wifebeater style dance of lies and buffoonery?
And to be clear, I did NOT claim that all rich people donate just to take advantage of the tax write off.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
1:40 pm
I never read Dowd at the NYT until she wrote about the neocons in mitt’s foreign policy team.
Sadly, not many writers are writing about neocons so Iraq is the forgotten disaster and doomed to repeat it..
” Ryan ended up simply parroting Senor, who made his name as spokesman for the botched Iraq occupation. That’s a scary thing unless you want to go back to the messianic mind-set of imprinting our “values” in the Islamic world, an attitude that brought us interminable wars and trillion-dollar deficits.
Ryan echoed the bankrupt neocon philosophy of going to war to prevent war. With Iran, he said, the best thing to do is threaten war. “The key is to do this peacefully,” he said, sounding as woolly as Paul Wolfowitz. Ryan didn’t seem to understand what much of the world does: The administration has worked with allies to strengthen sanctions, which have turned Iran into an economic basket case.
Biden also boxed Ryan into looking as though he wants to send more American troops to Afghanistan and to intervene in Syria, which isn’t so appealing to war-weary America.
Ronald Reagan knew how to bluster for peace. Neocons do not. When they run the show, threatening a war is followed by going to war and that is followed by bollixing up the war and that is followed by our troops’ dying at war and money-pit nation-building to end the war, and that is followed by economic disaster for America.” Dowd NYT.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
2:00 pm
Inter your comments here.
JamVet
October 14th, 2012
2:06 pm
Missoula, Montana (CNN) -– As the nation wrestles over who will occupy the White House for the next four years, Montana is in the midst of a fierce battle over 100 years worth of campaign finance law. And what happens in the Treasure State could set the tone for the future of campaign funding around the country.
On Election Day, voters in Montana will decide on a ballot initiative that would direct each of their elected officials to push for an amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The amendment would allow states to ban corporate funding of campaigns and set sharp limits on the money individuals can donate to candidates.
It is a test of government control over campaign spending versus corporate influence over candidates.
For a century, Montana has had some of the toughest limits on campaign funding in the country. That has its origins in the 19th century when copper barons openly bought politicians and ran mining operations that left pollution and scars across the state. Outcries led to sweeping reform, including a ban on corporations funding campaigns in the state.
That ban was overturned 100 years later, in June, when the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that Montana’s law limited free speech rights of corporations, pointing to the court’s earlier decision in Citizens United.
Now a group called “Stand with Montanans” fears that, without a Constitutional amendment, well-heeled mining corporations can again take over the state’s government.
http://cnnradio.cnn.com/2012/10/12/the-biggest-election-fight-youre-missing/?hpt=hp_bn3
getalife
October 14th, 2012
2:11 pm
“The amendment would allow states to ban corporate funding of campaigns and set sharp limits on the money individuals can donate to candidates.”
That is freaking awesome.
We need pols to run on that with a simple yes or no answer.
G Mare
October 14th, 2012
2:20 pm
Getalife re Dowd: AMEN!
Mary Elizabeth re Meet the Press: you are right about Mayor Reed.
Jm
October 14th, 2012
2:30 pm
This thing we call the Atlanta Airport is about as well run as MARTA
What a fiasco.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
2:37 pm
My original post: “The simple fact is that many wealthy people only “give” to charities as part of a quid pro quo for their own gain.”
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
12:17 pm
…When you can read minds like keep up can and have his omniscience to know the intentions of many wealthy people you can make crazy ass blanket statements like that.
I guess the “crazy ass” is the ignorance of a poster who makes claims about mind reading while demonstrating their ignorance:
For decades, surveys have shown that upper-income Americans don’t give away as much of their money as they might and are particularly undistinguished as givers when compared with the poor, who are strikingly generous. A number of other studies have shown that lower-income Americans give proportionally more of their incomes to charity than do upper-income Americans. …
But in the larger context of “the psychological culture of wealth versus poverty,” says Paul K. Piff, a Ph.D. candidate in social psychology at the University of California, Berkeley, the paradox makes sense. Piff has made a specialty of studying those cultures in his lab at the Institute of Personality and Social Research, most recently in a series of experiments that tested “lower class” and “upper class” subjects (with earnings ranging from around $15,000 to more than $150,000 a year) to see what kind of psychological factors motivated the well-known differences in their giving behaviors. His study, written with Michael W. Kraus and published online last month by The Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, found that lower-income people were more generous, charitable, trusting and helpful to others than were those with more wealth. They were more attuned to the needs of others and more committed generally to the values of egalitarianism. …
a 2007 report from the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University found that only a small percentage of charitable giving by the wealthy was actually going to the needs of the poor; instead it was mostly directed to other causes — cultural institutions, for example, or their alma maters — which often came with the not-inconsequential payoff of enhancing the donor’s status among his or her peers
Orange12
October 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/romney-tops-obama-in-georgia-as-economy-dominates-/nScjq/
Mary Elizabeth
October 14th, 2012
2:47 pm
Hi G Mare!
Wasn’t Reed wonderful? And, only 43 years old, with that insight.
I think of you in your coming ordeal, even when I do not post – my thoughts and prayers remain with you in this. Getalife was correct – express your fears to your nurses and that will help you, and give you more peace, as you go through it.
bman
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
Keep up the Bing’n
paulo977
October 14th, 2012
2:49 pm
Orange12 @2:42pm ……..
_________________________
Surprised ? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
G Mare
October 14th, 2012
2:53 pm
Thank you for your thoughts & prayers, Mary Elizabeth. They are much appreciated.
paulo977
October 14th, 2012
2:56 pm
Mary E …..”Wasn’t Reed wonderful? And, only 43 years old, with that insight.”
________________________________________________
Wonderful ! Unfortunately people in GA apparently need years more before they develop anything close to insight re: THE HUMAN CONDITION
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
2:56 pm
Poor b’man…. can’t figure out the internets still. Well the good news is that you are blissed in your ignorance.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
2:57 pm
Felix made it:
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/815313/thumbs/r-FELIX-BAUMGARTNER-JUMP-huge.jpg
G Mare
October 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
I also think young Mayor Reed has a bright future in political life. One has to hope he doesn’t “shoot himself in the foot” as Corey
Booker seems to have done.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
2:58 pm
Jam, United Citizens is just wrong. It has to be stopped.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
3:00 pm
neocons plus deregulating the banks again equals another collapse.
I have no doubt and don’t expect a different result.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
3:09 pm
MSNBC’s Chris Hayes reported today on another CEO — Arthur Allen of ASG Software Solutions — who said in an email to his employees that they’d only have themselves to blame if they lose their jobs if Obama wins.
What an idiot….. ASG already has serious issues and defections. So this clown CEO wants to blame Obama for his failures since it is likely the company won’t survive anyway.
http://upwithchrishayes.msnbc.com/_news/2012/10/14/14429803-exclusive-ceo-suggests-employees-jobs-may-be-at-stake-if-romney-doesnt-win
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
3:11 pm
Orange12
October 14th, 2012
2:42 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/romney-tops-obama-in-georgia-as-economy-dominates-/nScjq/
And in other breaking news…
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/scientists-discover-water-is-wet/
*Not really a web page, but it seems about as relevant as news that Romney leads Obama in Georgia. I think the tribes living in the Amazon with no communication with the outside world even know that Georgia won’t vote for Obama.
Thomas
October 14th, 2012
3:23 pm
http://www.ajc.com/news/business/restaurants-face-full-plate-of-issues-in-health-ca/nScjx/#cmComments
Jay- you were ignorantly cocky (per usual) about restaurants/business and Obamacare last week.
See you colleagues article above- one of two things- should a) Leon Stafford be fired from the AJC or b) should you come off your ingorance
Biden is the Warrior
JamVet
October 14th, 2012
3:40 pm
Keep…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll3uipTO-4A
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 14th, 2012
3:53 pm
Jam, ironic that Trump uses that as his theme song….
getalife
October 14th, 2012
4:16 pm
“Biden is the Warrior”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWxBrI0g1kE
josef
October 14th, 2012
4:22 pm
Kasim Reed needs to remember that he’s Mayor of Atlanta.
pogo
October 14th, 2012
4:48 pm
Watching Felix Baumgartner jump from 128,000 feet today was one of the most exciting things I have seen in a long time (even with the 20 second delay). I have to admit that I was concerned when he appeared to be spinning out of control through the stratosphere due to its low air density which offerred him absolutely no control on his trajectory. With so much that is wrong nowadays we still have people like this that show us the human spirit survives. Since America’s space program has now been gutted by Obama I guess private funding for these types of things is the way forward and that is probably as it should be. The suit that Baumgartner wore will now be studied as part of an escape package for future astronaunts. Innovation lives in the human imagination and the private sector is only place that has the freedom (free from the chains of un-ending governemt beaurecracy and government inefficiency) to promote things such as happened today. It was a proud day for all of those involved.
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
4:56 pm
pogo.
NASA was socialism.
Greed will probably screw it up like it always does and return to socialism.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
5:00 pm
Everything works better with RepubliMath smeared on it. With it, 1+1=3. It’s also what helps make RepubliScience work (together they make it possible for the earth to be 9000 years old and for Romney’s and Ryan’s tax math to work and for ice to melt below freezing, etc.). They’re two of the three “R’s”, RepubliMath, RepubliScience, and RepubliSpeak, needed to become a Republicon.
josef
October 14th, 2012
5:01 pm
getalife
Still no statement from Turkey on what, if anything, they found on that flight.
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
5:03 pm
josef,
I know but they banned all flights from Syria over their airspace.
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
5:08 pm
josef,
Here is the link.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19940506
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
5:18 pm
Since America’s space program has now been gutted by Obama I guess private funding for these types of things is the way forward and that is probably as it should be.
One would think that a “conservative would be ashamed of blatantly telling lies on a Sunday, but of course, our “conservatives here have absolutely no shame whatsoever.
Posted 3/2/2006 11:32 PM
WASHINGTON — Spending cuts President Bush proposed for NASA science projects will cause far more harm than the administration has acknowledged, top scientists warned a congressional panel Thursday.
If it passes, the Bush budget will turn out the lights on a whole generation of young scientists and researchers, said Joseph Taylor Jr., a Princeton University physics professor.
….
The Bush administration budget request provides $3.1 billion less for science through 2010 than was promised in last year’s spending request.
————————-
February 1, 2010 |
2:02 pm
The Obama administration has officially decided to end the Constellation mission back to the moon, although the replacement plan faces a tough route through Congress.
The new plan, which had been rumored for months, was announced today with the release of the Obama administration’s NASA budget request, which despite the axing of the moon plan delivers a $6 billion funding increase over the next five years.
If you look at the historical funding of NASA, their funding reached it’s peak in 1991-1992 and has been steadily dropping ever since. If you look at who’s been in control of the purse since then, the House has been (D) 1991-1994, (R) 1995-2006, (D) 2007-2010, and (R) since 2011. He who controls the purse strings controls NASA funding. Since NASA reached it’s funding peak in recent history, Republicans have been in the driver’s seat a bit longer.
josef
October 14th, 2012
5:47 pm
getalife
The new Prime Minister in Libya is a liberal, secularist. He has two weeks to form a government. He defeated the Islamacist candidate. He’s was tight with Sarkozy.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
6:17 pm
TP” Everything works better with RepubliMath smeared on it
Good to know! I’ll try some republimath on my toilet paper….
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
6:23 pm
They can never take away my memories — by Jerry Sandusky
http://www.theonion.com/articles/they-can-never-take-away-my-memories,29877/?ref=auto
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
6:30 pm
Scattered Deaths Of Elderly Floridians Expected Throughout The Week:
http://www.theonion.com/video/scattered-deaths-of-elderly-floridians-expected-th,29597/
Jay
October 14th, 2012
6:38 pm
So Thomas, you liked Stafford’s piece today? You thought it fair and accurate?
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
6:44 pm
Romney Proudly Explains How He’s Turned Campaign Around
Boston AP, “Romney has pulled even with President Obama, and the former Massachusetts governor credits his rejuvenated campaign to one, singular tactic: lying a lot.
“I’m lying a lot more, and my lies are far more egregious than they’ve ever been,” a smiling Romney told reporters while sitting in the back of his campaign bus, adding that when faced with a choice to either lie or tell the truth, he will more than likely lie. “It’s a strategy that works because when I lie, I’m essentially telling people what they want to hear, and people really like hearing things they want to hear. Even if they sort of know that nothing I’m saying is true.”
“It’s a freeing strategy, really, because I don’t have to worry about facts or being accurate or having any concrete positions of any kind,” Romney added.
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
6:48 pm
josef,
Good. He should convert loyal militias to his army and try to get the rest in government. I wish him luck because it will be tough going at the start.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
6:50 pm
“And to be clear, I did NOT claim that all rich people donate just to take advantage of the tax write off.”
Keep up the sorry fight,
And I did not claim that you said that either. I merely cited what you yourself claimed- which was that many(not all as you foolishly said I claimed) rich people used the charitable deduction for their own gain. You really need to work on your reading comprehension keep.
Secondly, I see that you cited some study by a perfesser at that bastion of liberalism Cal- Berkely as a source for your assertion. Silly boy. Does your mind actually consider a kook left perfesser from the most kook left university in the nation to be credible? Geez.
Why is it that libs mock postings from con websites like breitbart which just rehashes main stream articles for the most part? I’ve seen many a lib recently mock these breitbart postings that USMC posted but when you actually look at the links the articles are usually reprints from AP or a mainstream news outlet. But you kooks then think your postings from kook left perfessers from Cal Berkeley are credible or links from kook left websites like americanthinker. Bizarre.
Only keep could take an article from a kook left perfesser from a kook left school and take it as the gospel truth.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
6:51 pm
DebbieDo
http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/10/every-marine-a-rifleman-under-new-policy-all-marines-to-receive-infantry-mos/
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
6:53 pm
Brocephus,
There is no study that proves emphatically either case. But there is data that certainly suggests one and not the other. And there is just some common sense observation. How else does a vastly more experienced Dem heavyweight like Hillary Clinton lose the Dem primary to a man with virtually no meaningful experience?
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
6:54 pm
josef,
My empathy gene is acting up about the civil war in Syria. It is gnawing at me that the world should do something more but they have to fight for their own freedom. We can’t dictate who wins like mitt wants to do without another occupation.
josef
October 14th, 2012
6:59 pm
getalife
I was reading some commentaries for Libyans and all agreed that the biggest concern now is to weld the militias into a new military and police force under civilian control in a western mold. It was interesting to read their comments on the Islamacists. There is a widespread belief that they’ve had enough of the preachers telling them how to be good Muslims, noting that the Libyans are “already good Muslims.”
I had thought at first that if there was a chance for success out of the Arab Spring, it would be Tunisia. It looks more like Libya, if they can just get through these first trying days of building up their institutions and the West will just be patient.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
7:01 pm
getalfe
is your i on the beach in
florida ?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:01 pm
David Siegel, Arthur Allen, Steve Wynn, Bernie Marcus, Donald Trump, Jack Welch, and on and on and on….
But but but the liberals on the Bookman blog say Obama is good for the economy. Apparently the guys that actually start companies and hire people tend to disagree with you.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:07 pm
getalife
I tend to agree with Jay when it comes to Syria. There’s not much anybody can do now beyond trying to contain it and provide a road out with the clothes on their backs for the refugees as much as possible. There appears, though, to be precious little effort being put into the coordination of even that. That much the outside world could do if it could muster the courage.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:09 pm
THULSA
Just being EOI here, but how do you explain the recovery of Wall Street?
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
7:09 pm
josef,
That is encouraging. When I watched the video of the Libyan pulling the Ambassador out of the window the translation was “he is still alive” and another Libyan said “God is great” and they rushed him to the hospital. That was the first time I heard God is great for life instead of for death.
getalfe
October 14th, 2012
7:11 pm
frog,
i?
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:12 pm
Oh, my name.
My bad.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
7:13 pm
getalife
the ‘eye’ in your name.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:16 pm
doomy is focusing on the negative half of our country.
The other half say thank you for saving us President Obama.
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
7:18 pm
getalife, 7:16,
Saving us from what?
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:20 pm
Kayaker
The abyss we were headed for full tilt boogie…
I’ve had my issues with Obama and am still far from an Obamista, but all things considered given what he has been up against at home and abroad, he’s done a pretty good job of it.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:21 pm
josef,
Wall Street is recovered? Try telling that to Bear Stearns. Depends on what you mean by recovered. Stock prices are going higher. Is that what you mean? I was watching CNBC a few weeks ago when they announced QE3. Stock market was up huge that day. Why? Because of QE3. The analysts were saying all this money printing is good for stocks because all that freshly printed money has to go somewhere and it will go into stocks. In other words its just an illusion. Looks like we may be creating another price asset bubble similar to the housing fiasco which is going to have a day of reckoning sooner or later.
Cons for the most part understand that the reason real incomes have fallen nearly 9% in the last 4 years is due to QEs 1 and 2. We understand this. How many liberals do you honestly think understand that?
Judging by the conversation that several of us cons had on here a few weeks ago regarding QE3 it was clear from a lack of input from the liberals on here that they simply don’t understand what’s going on. But they sure understand catchy bumper sticker sloganeering like “trickle down economics” which isn’t even a real economic philosophy.
Mary Elizabeth
October 14th, 2012
7:21 pm
G Mare, you are most welcome.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:21 pm
I enjoy being better off than I was four years ago. Republicans apparently prefer to be worse off.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:24 pm
“The other half say thank you for saving us President Obama.”
getalife,
You gonna thank Obama for a nearly 9% decline in real wages over the last 4 years?
Mary Elizabeth
October 14th, 2012
7:24 pm
Paulo 977, 2:56 pm
“Wonderful ! Unfortunately people in GA apparently need years more before they develop anything close to insight re: THE HUMAN CONDITION.”
—————————————————————————-
Paulo, if I have failed to tell you in the past, let me do so now. Some of your posts have been ones that have affected me most deeply and have been the most meaningful to me. Thank you.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:25 pm
THULSA
If it’s our pocketbooks we’re voting, mine’s better than it was four years ago. Unemployment has dropped below the still-too-high 8%, housing starts are up however slightly. Given the free fall he inherited, things could sure be a helluva lot worse.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:27 pm
Taxpayer,
I’m better off also. But judging by the sheer stats of another 15 million people on food stamps(1 in 6 Americans), 23 million fewer people working, etc. you and I are the exception to the rule. The hard stats don’t lie. Most people are worse off and its a fact that real income has declined nearly 9%.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:29 pm
Koch Brothers Send Pro-Romney Mailing To 50,000 Employees, Allegedly ‘Stifle Political Speech’
The poor pitiful Koch crooks. How will they ever survive. They might have to lay off thousands if they do not get some massive tax breaks and deregulations. Look at how they are struggling. Barely getting by. They can hardly afford the 100 million they vowed to the GOP just this election cycle.
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
7:30 pm
taxpayer, 7:21,
Well, you can consider yourself pretty fortunate. There are a bucket load full of Americans who are not better off than they were 4 years ago, especially with home equity. Your stock market portfolio may have improved over the last four years but mine and others home values are in the tank. We still have millions out of work, our growth is pegged at a paltry 1.7% and we owe more than we produce. If you consider that progress, then you better vote for Bozo. But we can do better than that. We have in the past and we will in the future but not with Bozo at the helm.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:33 pm
josef,
This freefall that Dems seem to think that O saved us from has taken on quite a life of its own. It doesn’t jive with the facts. The fact of the matter is that jobs losses had already bottomed out in Jan. when O came into office. And the recession ended a mere 6 months later. The worst of the recession was under W’s watch. As for saving the financial institutions TARP was started under W as the liberals have pointed out numerous times when it suits their argument. As for the stimulus it seems to me that it was unnecessary. It was put in as the recession was ending and as the economic and employment data verified things were getting better before and as Obama was coming into office. This idea that he “saved” the U.S. economy is a piece of fiction when lined up against the economic facts.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
7:33 pm
Thanks Frog!
New York, NY – Military Working Dogs are more intelligent than second and first lieutenants, according to an article to be published next week in Army Times.
They didn’t mention Frogs………much smarter than dogs, lieutennants, and a couple of congressman!
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:33 pm
They cry about not cleaning up their mess yet but their party is obstructing and they say nothing about the gop obstruction.
Their logic does not pass the common sense test.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
7:36 pm
The cons want everyone to be miserable because they’re miserable.
Save the world………..hug a Con.
(Wear some gloves first though — might catch cooties)
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:36 pm
Would someone please explain this to me: if so many are on Food Stamps as an indicator of the failure of the Obama economic policies, i.e. not their fault, then why, pray tell are they being vilified as cheats and frauds? You can’t have it both ways the way I see it. But, then, that’s just me and I don’t know what I’m talking about even half the time. So enlighten me. please.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:37 pm
Thulsa,
We lost something around 9 million private sector jobs during the great recession. Following Bush’s minor recession and the implementation of his tax cuts, the economy added about 155,000 private sector jobs per month. We’re currently averaging out about the same number of private sector jobs per month but we have to recover from a much larger loss of private sector jobs so it will naturally take longer. Further, this time around government is not adding jobs as it did under Bush but is losing jobs each month so that further delays the job recovery.
barking frog
October 14th, 2012
7:38 pm
DebbieDo
Thanks. Did you read the
Air Force articles. Hilarious.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:39 pm
You can’t have it both ways the way I see it.
Of course Republicans can have if both ways so long as it suits their needs.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:40 pm
doomy,
Steady job growth disagrees with your fac er lies.
Just give it a rest doomy.
Nobody is buying your lies.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:40 pm
THULSA
“It doesn’t jive with the facts”
Oh, I wouldn’t say that. When it comes to jiving with the facts, both parties seem to be on their game there, and yours and other posts just confirm that the way I see it. Now as far as jibing with the facts, like I say, I don’t speak economics and I don’t practice cabala either…
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:40 pm
I stand with our Vice President to tell the world the gop are full of crap and only vote for the wealthy that needs no help. I fight for the middle class to save SS, Medicare, Medicaid and all programs that help the people that do need help. Join us and vote D.
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:42 pm
josef,
One other thing. I don’t know how you have more money in your pocket as opposed to 4 years ago unless its due to ordinary courses of promotion or raises which happen in the normal course of employment. As for gas your paying twice as much as 4 years ago and for many basic foodstuffs such as coffee, eggs, sugar, peanut butter, the prices for those normal items have skyrocketed. And if purchasing power is down nearly 9% due to all the money printing then I can only surmise that you are better off due to you or unmentionable getting raises/promotions or your portfolio increasing which is on paper only and could quickly change.
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
7:42 pm
taxpayer, 7:29,
Koch industries has not terminated much of anyone from its payroll. Why don’t you ask the more than 70.000 people that Koch employes world wide how they feel about working for Koch industries? You can harp on about how you hate Koch for backing a political candidate of their choice but we get nothing from you about SEIU and numerous other Bozo donors doing exactly the same thing. It’s OK for Goldman Sachs to give Bozo over a million dollars and for SEIU to contribute over 28M but the Koch brothers are devils and demons. They can’t do this….. they are capitalists and we all know how liberals feel about the evil capitalists, now don’t we? Empty rhetoric, taxpayer….. nothing more.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:46 pm
Thulsa
Buy low, sell high. No credit cards. No mortgage. No car note. I haven’t had a raise at my public sector job in 7 years.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:47 pm
Our President broke the donor record with 4 million donors.
How many for mitt?
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:48 pm
Kayaker
Capitalism has been pretty good to this liberal. No complaints about the system. Plenty about the unfettered greed and lack of a moral compass from many of its adherents.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
7:50 pm
frog — reading it now! I’ve even sent the link to some of my old “military dependents” friends that I still “talk to”. They’re gonna love it!!
josef: Would someone please explain this to me: if so many are on Food Stamps as an indicator of the failure of the Obama economic policies, i.e. not their fault, then why, pray tell are they being vilified as cheats and frauds? You can’t have it both ways the way I see it. But, then, that’s just me and I don’t know what I’m talking about even half the time. So enlighten me. please.
josef — this is how i see it, (what the cons are selling):
Are You Gonna Believe Me Or Your Lieing Math Not Adding Up Eyes??
OR
Those Lazy Azz Moochers!!! — (As said to the rich and conned at rallies); I FEEL For the Plight Of Middle America (Said to everyone else, especially reporters).
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:50 pm
josef,
I disagree with you on the facts. The economic data I speak of is not in dispute. The work force participation rate is the lowest its been since 1983 with about 23 million people, 47 million are now on food stamps, the household staples I mentioned have soared in price relative to 4 years ago, and the economic report that came out a few weeks ago that stated we have lost nearly 9% in purchasing power is not in dispute. Its like gas. It was $1.81 the day O came into office and is $3.58 today here where I live- double. The data I presented is not in dispute- it is what it is.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:51 pm
Empty rhetoric is what I have come to expect from you, kayaker, and you continue to fully meet expectations. Now tell us all about how the poor pitiful Koch crooks need another tax cut in order to offset forking over 100 million to the GOP this election cycle. Then tell us all about how much donors to the Democratic party whine about how taxes are just destroying them and making it so hard for them to afford to hardly keep their mansions clean for dinner parties.
josef
October 14th, 2012
7:53 pm
THULSA
Okay, now how much of that is the result of the massive shipping of jobs overseas?
getalife
October 14th, 2012
7:55 pm
The cons will continue to serve our country by fighting for Americans that need no help from them.
I believe there are more Americans fighting for Americans that do need help and will beat these cons.
DebbieDoRight - A Do Right Woman
October 14th, 2012
7:57 pm
josef – As Hoover said, ” The only thing wrong with capitalism is capitalists”.
It’s not the system that’s broken, its the people who run the system with a broken moral compass.
kayaker 71
October 14th, 2012
7:57 pm
joseph, 7:48,
I don’t doubt that you are correct. Capitalism has it’s warts, you can be sure. But this country has been founded on capitalistic ideas and methods since it’s inception. There are casualties along the way but overall, this country could not have been built any other way. We have a lot that we can be ashamed of and Bozo has pointed this out pretty well. We don’t need to be reminded. But the end result has been yours and my ability to prosper as we could not have done in any other country in the world. There is no such thing as a perfect scenario but to demonize the very thing that allows us to enjoy the lifestyle and freedoms that virtually no one else in the world has……
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
7:59 pm
josef,
I have the same exact formula which may be why my car is paid off, cc debt non-existent, this modest house is paid off, and money is in the bank. And yes. I am much better off but that’s because my business is recession proof and I’ve grown it through my own efforts. And lived very frugally and within my means. I’m just saying though that most people that haven’t seen raises are seeing their food and gas prices skyrocket. That’s real pain to a lot of real people.
TaxPayer
October 14th, 2012
7:59 pm
When I first started driving, the local stations had gas wars where they sold it as cheap as $0.25 per gallon. Then along came all those presidents. Look what they’ve done to this world, ma.
Brosephus™
October 14th, 2012
8:00 pm
How else does a vastly more experienced Dem heavyweight like Hillary Clinton lose the Dem primary to a man with virtually no meaningful experience?
It wasn’t race. If you go back and look, most of the Black support in the primaries went to Clinton. Obama didn’t begin to pick up support from the Black community until later in the race. Many Blacks originally didn’t think Obama had a snowball’s chance in hell of getting the nomination. Add that, and the admiration that Black America has for Bill Clinton, and it’s much easier to see why Clinton had the early support. Blacks didn’t give Obama a second thought until after Iowa, when Whites overwhelmingly went with Obama over Clinton.
But, I’ll let you live in your little fantasy world where Blacks simply vote for melanin.
getalife
October 14th, 2012
8:02 pm
So it begs to question, why do you fight for Americans that do not need your help cons?
Thulsa Doom
October 14th, 2012
8:02 pm
josef,
Outsourcing is a phenomenon that’s been going on for quite awhile- decades in fact. Its not something that just up and started happening under W or O. We could go protectionist and protect all those jobs but economic history shows us that that would be disastrous.
josef
October 14th, 2012
8:03 pm
KAYAKER
The problem, as I see it, is bringing more people into that system. That begins with education. That education begins in elementary school when we teach percentages. We should be doing that within the framework of how to budget, income and outgo, investment and return. We aren’t. Even if we started today, it will be a generation before the effects are manifest. In the meantime, if we don’t provide the social safety net for the children we are making the effort to bring in, all we’re going to get is a festering sore sure to lead to collapse of all we hold dear.