Liveblog: Biden, Ryan ready to rumble
UPDATE: 9:05 On a question about the Libyan attack, Biden does well, diverting it into the larger security question. Ryan handles his part ably as well, although this “weakness.”
Whoa… the malarkey card: “Everything he said is a bunch of malarkey,” says Biden. And then backs it up. A good, strong exchange, although Ryan comes across as a bit unseasoned.
UPDATE: 9:15 Ryan takes a hard, but unrealistic, line on Iran. He sounds like he’s repeating rehearsed lines, Biden sounds like he comprehends the issue.
Biden’s forcefulness working for him very well.
I wonder if President Obama is taking notes.
9:26: “We’re going in the wrong direction,” says Ryan. I don’t think that’s going to sell. “It’s late evening in America”?
Raddatz doing well as moderator, but I think the forum is easier. Sitting there at the table gives her more control. It’s a good exchange.
9:34 Medicare and Social Security. I think Joe just hit a home run on Medicare with seniors, which is his target audience on this topic.
Although Ryan is right about Biden interrupting.
9:50 Biden carrying the argument with a combination of passion and detail.
10:00 I don’t think Ryan/Romney’s argument for sticking in Afghanistan gets them anywhere. That time is past.
Ryan failed on Afghanistan, but it’s not necessarily his fault. The vague Romney position on Afghanistan, suggesting he’d stay longer, is just hard to defend after more than a decade of U.S. blood.
10:28 Ryan has held his own; he did a good job with what he was given. But this is a Biden victory. It’s not a slam dunk; it won’t alter the race much. But Biden’s conviction carried the day.
It may and should serve as a template for his boss. An interesting endnote: I don’t recall a veep debate in which the tops of the ticket, Romney and Obama in this case, were mentioned so seldom.
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Among other things, it’s going to be interesting to see how successful Joe Biden is in handcuffing Paul Ryan to the ardently conservative positions that he championed before joining the ticket, and how willing Ryan will be to slough off that identity in service of the newly moderate Mitt Romney.
Not to mention Biden’s proclivity for foot-chewing.
– Jay Bookman
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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
7:53 pm
Mr, Ryan, are you a proponent of Ayn Rand’s works?
Junior Samples
October 11th, 2012
7:54 pm
Here’s to a good clean fight.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
7:55 pm
FIRST!
and
FREE FRED!
Jay
October 11th, 2012
7:56 pm
Fred has been told he’s back tomorrow. But as you may have surmised, he can be a stubborn cuss.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
7:57 pm
This time, I will look at all style and no substance to get on the same page with media and Americans.
I think the media will take something Joe says and loop it for 72 hours.
The Governor of Montana said that might happen on cnn so I think he let their agenda slip out.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
8:03 pm
Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca! Att-i-ca!
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
8:07 pm
I just wonder how Ryan is going to defend the voucher program for Medicare since Romney says he won’t reduce it?
How many elderly can understand how to use them?
Is he going to start a gov’t agency to advise the elderly?
If so, how will those people be monitored so they aren’t BOUGHT by big health.
Only the shadow knows LOL
Mick
October 11th, 2012
8:12 pm
josef
I said I was looking for some truth, doesn’t mean I’ll find it.
If you’re a politician this has to be your personal super bowl; Go out and hit a home run, throw a touchdown….always with the sports or rumble? Words, a pretty cool duel no matter how you slice it.
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 11th, 2012
8:16 pm
Here’s a cool drinking game that is safe for even our Morman friends.
Using 190 proof Grain alcohol,
Take a drink everytime Individual Liberty, Freedom, or NDAA is mentioned.
.
Use excess alcohol for canning some peaches or something.
.
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
8:17 pm
So how come CSPAN ain’t in HD?
Bummer.
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
8:20 pm
“I just wonder how Ryan is going to defend the voucher program for Medicare since Romney says he won’t reduce it?”
I just wonder how Ryan is going to defend Mitt’s wife beating hobby.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
8:22 pm
**So how come CSPAN ain’t in HD?**
It’s because biden can’t wear his baseball cap…
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
8:23 pm
Congressman, I served with Dan Quayle, I knew Dan Quayle, Dan Quayle was a friend of mine. Congressman, you’re no Dan Quayle. (Prolonged shouts and applause.)
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:25 pm
cnn showed a clip of Jack Kemp saying it was not trickle down, it is Niagara Falls.
That trickle down has dried up and the Niagara Falls is the deficit.
I think Thomas can agree to that.
Paul
October 11th, 2012
8:25 pm
My bet; Ryan says “yeah, I came up with all sorts of ideas, Joe, because you and your boss wouldn’t. But now I’m the vice presidential candidate and you should know it’s not about me, it’s about the policy Gov Romney sets. Okay, so you’ve tried to set policy yourself a time or two and look how that worked out. So this is my policy: as Gov Romney has stated since his nomination (blah blah blah).”
Larry
October 11th, 2012
8:29 pm
Just as Mitt did to the worst president in moder times, Paul Ryan will destroy Joe Biden’s liberal lies using the one weapon he can’t handle—the truth.
Biden’s the consummate fake; literally and figuratively He has had eye lifts, face lifts and hair plugs for years due to the same cognitive illness that plagues all scumbag liberals: insecurity, delusions, and feelings of inadequacy. Shoot, his own daughter just married his plastic surgeon!
And Jay, you’re the consummate liberal “brown noser.”
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
8:29 pm
get
it seems as if Niagra Falls has a prostate problem
Mick
October 11th, 2012
8:31 pm
paul
Dueling records, ryans tougher to defend because a lot of it is far right dung. Maybe something unpredictable will happen…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:32 pm
Common,
It is a drip now.
The gop have peddled this same trickle down bs for decades.
mitt is stay the course to widen the wealth and income gap as long as they can get away with it.
BRW
October 11th, 2012
8:35 pm
Can you say……..American Taliban?
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/dekalb-dad-gets-18-years-for-bible-inspired-fatal-/nSbL2/
Mick
October 11th, 2012
8:35 pm
larry
What a drag, man…who made you king of the hill? As if you could sniff any truth even if it was staring you in the kisser, another dum head ding a ling goes for the groin and thinks he scored a knockout… uh-huh..
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
8:36 pm
Fred has been told he’s back tomorrow. But as you may have surmised, he can be a stubborn cuss.
Is that kinda like a pot meet kettle observation? You tend to go a bit harder on Fred as opposed to others. Then again, your blog… your rules.
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I’m not watching this latest informercial. I’ll check the recap to see if Roger Rivard’s name pops up.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
8:37 pm
Mr. Ryan, how will the policies of a Romney administration differ from the policies of the Bush administration?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
8:37 pm
I hope Larry is right about Ryan being truthful… it would be nice to see that for a change from him.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
8:37 pm
Since in the event of a
tragedy one of these guys
may become President,
I like to consider this a
Presidential debate and
judge accordingly.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
8:40 pm
**I’m not watching this latest informercial.**
Wow, another hemingway type of observation, saying the most with the least.. truth…
iggy
October 11th, 2012
8:41 pm
Lets get ready to rrRRRUMMBBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEE!!!!!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
8:41 pm
Is either candidate using a teleprompter? Seriously I would like to know?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:42 pm
Biden, “Good job numbers.”
ryan.” It’s a vast left wing conspiracy”.
Larry calls that truth.
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
8:43 pm
Bro
Try the reruns of NCIS.
About as real
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
8:43 pm
Mr. Ryan what do you think of the decision to replace Taylor Schilling with plucky Pump Up The Volume actress Samantha Mathis as Dagny Taggart in the second installment of Atlas Shrugged?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:44 pm
“Voucher care” Biden.
“Mit er Obama care” ryan.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
8:45 pm
Since Mitt has decided to go to the moderate Mitt and to heck with the extreme right, I wonder if he regrets his extreme VP selection.
Tall
October 11th, 2012
8:45 pm
Kamchak:
…..”Mr, Ryan, are you a proponent of Ayn Rand’s works?”…
I am. Regardless of who is elected, the country will be unable to continue deficit spending. Your entitlement checks will bounce. So much for affordable health care.
Good luck.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
8:46 pm
So if Romney were to win would he be sworn in on the Book of Mormon?
cmac
October 11th, 2012
8:46 pm
Rumble? Does the obozoticket know how to do that without a teleprompter? Wonder if Bidumb will plagiarize anyone tonite?
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
8:47 pm
Congressman, I partied with Sarah Palin, I “knew” Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin was a freak. Congressman, you’re no Sarah Palin. (Prolonged shouts and applause.)
cmac
October 11th, 2012
8:48 pm
Yea! No lying out of the obozo – bidumb camp!!
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
8:48 pm
Don’t Forget
I heard he’s going to be sworn in on an Etch-A-Sketch.
Don’t quote me on that.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
8:49 pm
JamVet @ 8:47
That would be Glenn Rice the basketball player……….
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:49 pm
Keep,
Probably after this debate he will.
ryan voted to privatize SS and voucher care.
Then ryan will attack Libya after the gop disastrous hearing.
Joe should knock that one out of the park.
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
Congressman Ryan. How much would the ‘Ryan Plan,’ if enacted as passed by the House of Representatives, add to the National debt over the next ten years?
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
NoCom
Watching Last Resort now. After that, I’m just turning the tv off.
I’m out… Catch y’all later
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
I am.
So was I.
During the summer before my sophomore year in high school.
40 some odd years ago.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
Congressman,
Obamacare is a big ____ing
deal and this President has
a big stick.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
Don’t Forget – Not nice, so if Obama wins would he be sworn in on the Book of Muslim? Muslim or Mormon take your choice. I know which one I would pick!
cmac
October 11th, 2012
8:50 pm
No teleprompter for democRATS = disaster!!
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
8:53 pm
Tom, Obama isn’t a muslim. It would be the first time a president wasn’t sworn in on a Bible though. I like the etch a sketch idea though.
cmac
October 11th, 2012
8:54 pm
No proof obozo isn’t a mooslum! He was when he could use it to his advantage!
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
8:55 pm
Ryan doesn’t want to be called congressman? That says a lot.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
8:55 pm
One of the rules tonight is that the moderator cannot call Ryan “Congressman”?
Good to see the truth.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
8:55 pm
cmad, you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFcNbfp7wig
getalife
October 11th, 2012
8:57 pm
He is congressman.
A bad one.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
8:58 pm
Fred stubborn? Say it aint so.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
8:58 pm
Tonight Paul Ryan has requested to be referred to as Mr. Ryan. Choosing second, Joe Biden has opted for Deacon Blues
Heh, heh, heh.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
8:59 pm
Congressman Paul Ryan is not the solution to our problems. Congressman Paul Ryan is the problem. ~ Ronald Reagan
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:02 pm
Rat-itz…ugh.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:02 pm
30 year age difference roughly. The stale old white guy that libs love to hate vs the vibrant young guy.
Tall
October 11th, 2012
9:03 pm
YOU CAN’T PRINT..’er… SPEND WHAT YOU DON’T HAVE. Does anyone understand that? The economy can’t grow fast enough to cover it. If the Demoprocrastinators do win…. it will be their death knell. The Republicans aren’t much better, but they seem to understand what the other side doesn’t care to know.
“At the end of the day, there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Republicans or Democrats.” – Mark Twain….I think….
“This is your choice: If you want big government and high taxes – vote for the Republicans. If you want higher taxes and bigger government – vote for the Democrats. ” Huey Long….I think…
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:04 pm
Biden has already began lying/spinning….
BRW
October 11th, 2012
9:06 pm
cmac == seriously pitiful Troll…….No feeding please……
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:07 pm
Love to hate? That twerp can’t carry his jockstrap.
The guy is an outstanding American and human being.
On December 18, 1972, a few weeks after the election, Biden’s wife and one-year-old daughter were killed in an automobile accident while Christmas shopping in Hockessin, Delaware. Neilia Biden’s station wagon was hit by a tractor-trailer as she pulled out from an intersection; the truck driver was cleared of any wrongdoing. Biden’s two sons, Beau and Hunter, were critically injured in the accident, but both eventually made full recoveries.
Biden considered resigning to care for them; he was persuaded not to by Senate Majority Leader Mike Mansfield and others and was sworn in to office from one of their bedsides. The accident left Biden filled with both anger and religious doubt: “I liked to [walk around seedy neighborhoods] at night when I thought there was a better chance of finding a fight … I had not known I was capable of such rage … I felt God had played a horrible trick on me.”
To be at home every day for his young sons, Biden began the practice of commuting every day by Amtrak train for 1½ hours each way from his home in the Wilmington suburbs to Washington, D.C., which he continued to do throughout his Senate career. In the aftermath of the accident, he had trouble focusing on work, and appeared to just go through the motions of being a senator. In his memoirs, Biden notes that staffers were taking bets on how long he would last.
A single father for five years, Biden left standing orders that he be interrupted in the Senate at any time if his sons called. In remembrance of his wife and daughter, Biden does not work on December 18, the anniversary of the accident.
Put that “I sleep in my office” Mr. Congressman…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:08 pm
ryan agrees with our President on Afghanistan.
Sweet.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:08 pm
Damn. Ryan just blasted them on Benghazi and the coverup. Boom. No doubt. Obama’s foreign policy is flat out unraveling before our own eyes. Truth.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:08 pm
Just looking at the split screen this debate is over
BRW
October 11th, 2012
9:08 pm
“vs the vibrant young guy”
Eddie Munster is young? Must be all that blood sucking…..
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:09 pm
poor Biden is lost!!!!!
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:09 pm
Joe Biden with the malarkey comment. That just made him look stupid.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:09 pm
Yep, we’re in big trouble. Nate McClouth just went yard…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:10 pm
um uh um uh um the most devastating effects on Iran- Biden
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:10 pm
Oh the whoppin…. poor Joe…
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:11 pm
Biden just lied….
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:11 pm
Biden just said they weren’t told that the Libyan embassy requested more security. That is a damn flat out bald faced effing
L
I
E
!
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:11 pm
LOL…Biden is as lost as a lizard.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:11 pm
“Terrorist sympathizer” Joe. Say it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:12 pm
“vibrant young man”
The bromance is palpable
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:12 pm
GO FOR BROKE, JOE!!
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:12 pm
Biden cannot win this subject
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:12 pm
Doom is posting pomposity again. No facts, just pompous nonsense.
Ryan wastes no time in politicizing the Libya attacks, hitting Obama for not characterizing the violence as a “terrorist attack.” Obama used the word “terrorism” the very next day.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
9:13 pm
Can our intelligence
people be as dumb as
Biden says?
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:13 pm
Ryan nailed Biden on the LIE about the request for extra security.
Jay
October 11th, 2012
9:14 pm
Can our intelligence
people be as dumb as
Biden says?
Absolutely. The concept that they should and can know everything is fantasy.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:14 pm
I guess Joe could try and literally spank him but Ryan would probably whoop his arse….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:14 pm
Biden’s claim that intelligence on Libya shifted matches with what experts say about the difficult nature of gathering intelligence — former CIA analyst Alex Peritz said “[b]laming the president for not having instantaneous and perfect information is a ridiculous political stunt.”
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:15 pm
I think Biden is mesmerized by Ryan…
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:15 pm
As Obama stated about the VP debates “I think Joe should be Joe”.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:15 pm
keep up,
Keep up with the lying. It is a matter of damn record that the consulate requested extra security. That is called a fact sir. Deal with it Missy.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
9:15 pm
I hope your shot word wasn’t “values.” Eddie Muster will have you puking before 10:00.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:16 pm
Yes it is incredible that Joe is that bad.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:16 pm
Doom, calm down….you’re going to blow a gasket with your nonsense and distortions.
wahoo
October 11th, 2012
9:17 pm
I think Biden’s comical/laughing facial expressions in the split screen are going to hurt him with viewers.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:17 pm
Who had thelma melt-down at 15 minutes?
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
9:17 pm
Jay
But not knowing terrorists
from protestors is beyond
the pale. If this is true
Petraeus should be fired.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:18 pm
Foreign policy is supposed to be Biden’s strong point and Ryan is dominating him….
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:18 pm
More bad news. Yanks hit a long drive that is caught up against the wall.
Newsflash!
mike/joseph declares UGA Number One in latest BCS polls. Stand by for updates.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
9:19 pm
Eddie Munster has a crystal ball now? He can see the Ayotollah’s thoughts? What a tool.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:19 pm
Ryan had his stutter on………………….
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:19 pm
It is true, they gave the wrong info but the CIA was there and they never tell the truth.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:19 pm
Joe and his smiling/laughing remind me of Casey Anthony persecuting attorrney.
lynnie gal
October 11th, 2012
9:19 pm
Yeah, the Libyan consulate asked for extra security. But the REPUBLICAN led House CUT the BUDGET for SECURITY for the STATE DEPARTMENT. Republicans are responsible for the lack of security because they wanted to save a few pennies, and thus are responsible for the murders of our people in Libya.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:20 pm
ryan agreed when Biden said he was full of malarkey.
Too funny.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:20 pm
Jeter leads off the sixth with a lead off double.
mike/joseph says he struck out on three pitches….
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
9:21 pm
“Absolutely. The concept that they should and can know everything is fantasy.”
And yet Biden is relying on that intelligence to prolong their Iranian strategy.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:21 pm
iggy, calm down.
Team Sudden Reversal needs a five run homer and you don’t even have anyone on yet…
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:22 pm
Nice try lynnie.
NEXT!!
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
9:22 pm
I just made bi – part – i – corn.
Too much butter and popcorn salt.
And loose talk…..
Joe is cleaning Paul Ryan’s clock.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:22 pm
Biden is like watching Chipper Jones in his last at bat…
Matti
October 11th, 2012
9:23 pm
“Facts matter.”
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:23 pm
“He changes his mind so often.”
Hilarious.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Ryan threw Netanyahu’s timeline under the bus.
td
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Biden looks like an idiot smiling so big and Ryan looks a little nervous.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
You mean his Hall of Fame career that he ended with a single?
Stick to non-sports analogies, mike…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Joe got in a nice Mitt flip slam.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Cleaning his clock? Really? This is a draw right now.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Joe say it…SAY IT!!! “Its Bushs fault”
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
1-1
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:24 pm
Its always funny when I have to beat down keep up with facts straight from that bastion of right wing fanatacism called the Huffington Post.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/09/libya-consulate-attack_n_1951910.html
ABC News has obtained an internal State Department email from May 3, 2012, indicating that the State Department denied a request from the security team at the Embassy of Libya to retain a DC-3 airplane in the country to better conduct their duties.
Copied on the email was U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, who was killed in a terrorist attack on the diplomatic post in Benghazi, Libya, Sept. 11, 2012, along with three other Americans. That attack has prompted questions about whether the diplomatic personnel in that country were provided with adequate security support.
No one has yet to argue that the DC-3 would have definitively made a difference for the four Americans killed that night. The security team in question, after all, left Libya in August
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/email-shows-state-department-rejecting-request-of-security-team-at-us-embassy-in-libya/
WASHINGTON, Oct 9 (Reuters) – A U.S. security officer formerly stationed in Libya has told lawmakers he sent two cables to the State Department requesting more security agents for the American mission in Benghazi but received no response.
The officer, Eric Nordstrom, also said that a State Department official, Charlene Lamb, wanted to keep the number of U.S. security personnel in Benghazi “artificially low,” according to a memo summarizing his comments that was obtained by Reuters.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:25 pm
47%.
30%
Joe is a pit bull.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:25 pm
Granny Godzilla:
wow Granny and the Braves are still in the playoffs…..
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:25 pm
oh STFU Joe. Give me a break. Since when do you EVER care about anything about troops serving overseas.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:25 pm
It really is like watching Clarence Darrow debate Justin Bieber.
Heh, heh, heh.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:25 pm
Yanks tie it up 1 – 1.
mike reports O’s up 2 – 0…
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:26 pm
Me thinks Ryan is about to slam Joe.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:26 pm
Why didn’t Joe just say “Its W’s fault”
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:26 pm
ryan is getting spanked.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:26 pm
Ryan sounds like Obama.
Stumbling over his words.
Joe, looks like the seasoned vet he is.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
Maybe when his elder son, Beau was an Army Judge Advocate serving in Iraq, you imbecile?
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
Watching several on-line commentary sites. Dick Morris of all people just said “Biden is way ahead, Ryan looks like a kid, confused, weak.”
td
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
Biden is starting to look like a big richard.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
TBG
Exactly. He has his stutter on tonight
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
Shut up and let him finish Joe. Oh noes- Ryan pounded him with FACTS on the abysmal economic growth. “This is not what a recovery looks like”.
BOOM
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:27 pm
i think it is funny the same people on here that were saying that obama was doing great are the same people who are saying biden is creaming ryan. what a joke.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
Joe is trying to be aggressive. Works for him, until he looks out of control.
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
Ryan is trying to restart the Republican 2010 jobs program, now that it’s 2012. Hmmmm.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
Scott
And you are a liar because I said Obama was spanked
What else do you have?
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
bwahahahaha
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:28 pm
Mitt is Mormon Santa
Heh, heh, heh.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:29 pm
Dang he just nailed Joe to the floor.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:29 pm
Damn. Ryan just made Biden look like a damn fool with the comment about words not coming out the right way. Joe responds with the tired old comment about a bridge to sell. Weak.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
9:29 pm
Actually, Ryan is starting to look like a smartadds
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:29 pm
Why didn’t Ryan refute Biden on the 47% that they have used and many on the right have run with in the last month?
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:30 pm
Joe goes for the sympathy play. Im gonna cry….
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:30 pm
they both suck. there were many libs on here saying that Obama was winning. How am I lying? Because little old you said otherwise. My bad.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:30 pm
Keep flapping Joe
You might make it yet.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:30 pm
Biden seems entertained by Ryan… He may was as well sit back and enjoy the show because he is completely clueless… Poor fellow…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
Joe says if they get out of the way. What the hell is this fool talking about. Good God they’ve had 4 years with 2 years with an all Dem Congress. What an idiot.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
no…it came from you voting to allow everybody to have a house you dip
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
“1 party control” SMASH!!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
Show me something.
ryans voting record.
wars on the credit card.
Oh my.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:31 pm
Boom! Uh oh….
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
Get him, Biden.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
Just say “One-term Proposition” Enough said
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
Bam. Ryan just hammered him on the fact that the Dems had Congress for 2 years. And Joe looks stupid and less than presidential trying to laugh while Ryan is speaking.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
ARoid strikes out to end the sixth.
Cons report he hit into a game ending triple play…
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
hahahahahaha
Ryan is a stutter bucket
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:32 pm
Joe seems to be fading, THEN he hits Ryan on his voting record. Nice
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
ryan begging for stimulus money.
Too funny..
Joe is crushing it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
Joe is kicking Ryan hard on his own record.
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
Where is Tom Price at these days. I miss his incessant girly “I Object” every time the Dems tried to make progress in the House.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
Uh oh Ryan is on the attack.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
set the conditions to grow again? Where is the growth?
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:33 pm
TBS, wuzzup. Fun times, huh?
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
Where are the 5 million green jobs Joe???
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
Ooooo, Medicare.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
Martha is doing a decent job keeping them reined in.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
She is giving Biden the edge on comments, IMO.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
9:34 pm
Ryan just hammered him on the fact that the Dems had Congress for 2 years
More lies… just like the 8% claim Ryan made. But facts don’t matter to the GOP do they?
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
Medicare?
There goes Florida…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
“set the conditions to grow again? Where is the growth?”- Biden
Outright hilarious considering we are growing at 1-2% economic growth.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
TBG
Not much. Hope you are having a good week?
I doubt this debate is going to send Romney or Obama upwards or reeling.
TGT
October 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
Jay says that “Going in the wrong direction” not going to fly in America. So we’re going in the right direction Jay?
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:35 pm
Bam. Beat down
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Keep up. The Dems didn’t control Congress for 2 years? How the heck is that a lie?
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Joseph
Braves? Play offs?
Pro sports?
Soap operas for testosterone based life forms.
It’s game.
Like mouse trap with rotator cuff injuries.
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
There goes Ryan trying to thrown poor Ayn Rand under the bus. Social Security was there for her when she needed it.
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Biden needs to put on a red clown nose to go with his goofy laugh…throwing his arms up in the arm is a nice touch as well…
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:37 pm
I guess this admin is ignoring AARPs request to leave them out of it.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:37 pm
More lies… just like the 8% claim Ryan made. But facts don’t matter to the GOP do they?
keep up,
A lie? Really? So the Dems didn’t control Congress? If that were true then how did they pass Obamacare without a single Republican vote? How did they do that genius? Got any facts keep? Any at all? No? I didn’t think so.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:37 pm
Death panels by Ryan. Bad move.
Biden LYING.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:38 pm
I think Biden is digging a hole here.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:38 pm
I just flipped over for a sec during the MLB commercial.
Why is Ryan smirking so much?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:38 pm
Poor ryan.
Way over his head.
At least he gained some experience.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:38 pm
This debate is going to make NO difference on the election. Everybody saw Obama get exposed. It is all that matters.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:38 pm
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:36 pm
Keep up. The Dems didn’t control Congress for 2 years? How the heck is that a lie?
Its only a lie if you live in kook left fantasyland. And keep do live there he do.
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
Biden slamming the voucher scam.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
Biden just looks crazy, I bet if you listened on radio you would getter a better impression of him.
JMHO
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
Ouch. Joe is about to be slammed.
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
poor get-a-life….he still thinks obama won the first debate
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
Gawd Joe looked idiotic with the interruption.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:39 pm
Biden seems completely clueless…. Poor fellow…
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
TBS, true dat. I hate this interrupting format.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
No difference?
Ooooooh.
Did someone just admit defeat?
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
Joe looks like a dope
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
Biden is interrupting because he is losing.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:41 pm
Biden is coming across as an ASS!
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:41 pm
Poor cons, they think Romney isn’t down 70 – 90 votes in the EC…
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:41 pm
The only thing missing is Biden’s clown car, perhaps some size 22 shoes as well….
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:42 pm
Getter….how did I type that….Yikes….”get”
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
9:42 pm
Reagan is on Biden’s side…
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:40 pm
Joe IS a dope.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
I getter a pretty good impression of Yvonne Stahovski
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
Lyin’ Ryan. Too bad Republicans don’t support the use of facts.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:43 pm
Biden is a clown. He came out looking okay. Now he just looks like a sad old man. “get off my porch you kids”
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
Biden is walking ever closer to the line of looking like Al Goron during the W/Goron debate.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
Hrm common sense says no to Joe.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
Who do you trust on this ?
Not the gop.
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
Funny….Joe Isuzu is asking people to trust him.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
So far I’d give Biden a slight edge
More seasoned, better communication, and putting it in real terms for constituents
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
The Oregon Congressman did not co sponsor that bill with Ryan
BIG LIE
he worked on a part of it, but not the bill as it stands today
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
1 -1 after the stretch.
Cons report Yanks down 5 – 1…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:44 pm
Joe Biden’s scare tactics exposed. He has no record to run on. Except a record of abysmal failure.
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
‘try to scare people from voting for you…’ ?
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
let Joe keep interrupting. He is making himself sound really dumb. He will eventually stick his foot in his mouth. Wait for it…wait for it…
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
boogeyman lib tactics nonstop this evening
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
The sock-puppet parade is in full swing here tonight.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
Ryan just stared ol Joe down.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
Joe is bullied the moderator.
Winning.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
Biden looks OUT OF CONTROL!
He does NOT look composed.
If someone says something you disagree with, you still let them finish THEN you refute what they say.
Biden doesn’t do that.
OUT OF CONTROL.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:45 pm
Million billion. Huh?
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:46 pm
“The sock-puppet parade is in full swing here tonight.”
LOL!!
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
9:46 pm
I’m waiting for Joe to send a squirt of water from his lapel directed towards Ryan.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:46 pm
ryan looks beaten.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:46 pm
Kam
For sure
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
The middle class got BURIED under this admin…enough said
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
Oh poor Joe….
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
TBS, true
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
Conservative bloggers don’t like it when Biden punches back
True dat.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
Flaherty drops an easy pop up.
Cons report he went over the wall to take away a home run…
Reasonable man
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
Liberals are such lying, parasitic leeches that have absolutely no redeeming qualities
td
October 11th, 2012
9:47 pm
Biden is starting to look like a bully.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
bam…..on taxes joe just lost the argument
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
Ryan just won that point
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
Just quote Joe the pit bull Biden to crush the cons.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
nicely put. Way to use facts to put down the class warfare argument
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
The middle class got BURIED under the past five administrations…enough said, scott.
Support the Troops.
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
Black guy….completely agree, Biden is way too emotional and out of control
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
Taking 28 percent is enough, you say. Good, when will Mitt start doubling his taxes.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:48 pm
WOW. Ryan walloped him on some reality regarding how much the wealthy really can help with the deficit pay down. The problem is spending Joe. You just don’t get it you old stale fool.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
Boom Ryan hammering the tax point home hard
Biden still ahead unless this continues for the rest of the debate
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
Biden is hectoring the Moderator.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
jamvet…I don’t know who is a bigger clown…you or biden
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
tax everybody everything and it doesn’t pay for the libs spending….wut up jay
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
No specifics.
Busted.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
Joe is a good man for not popping this little creep in the puss.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
Biden laughing. Doesn’t this man understand how it makes him look like an idiot. Geez.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:49 pm
Wassup with Kyle’s morgue?
Looks like the cons there have no stomach for this.
Strange…
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:50 pm
jamvet….agreed
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:50 pm
Damn. Quit interrupting you old damn fool.
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:50 pm
All Joe can do is chuckle when he gets his shorts handed to him with level headed intelligent discussion, Joe should have taken a tranquilzer before the debate…
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:50 pm
scott, what you don’t know could fill the Library of Congress. Twice.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:51 pm
“Wassup with Kyle’s morgue?”
Not very active with the updates is he.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:51 pm
WHAT are you giggling at? This actually isn’t even funny anymore. I am legitimately concerned Biden is not OK
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:51 pm
Do you have the specifics? That’s a pretty simple question. Paul Ryan has no answer.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
Romney is going to close the carried interest loophole
If not, he’s toast next election
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
Biden is like the guy in the bar who thinks that he sounds smart because he is talking louder than you are.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
mortgage deduction….that is something that your party wanted to cut Joe
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
GOP does not do math…
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
Biden is making a complete fool of himself
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:52 pm
Pooh borderline brawl!
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
I think Biden is drunk.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Ryan has no details and he knows it.
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Joe is interuppting because he is being trashed.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Biden just looks crazy with all the interrupting and the crazy comments. This man has completely lost his composure.
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Jamvet and what you do know would fit on a post-it note.
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Show the math, Ryan. You lose.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
Marathon man is not
destroying the old man
but he is keeping up.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:54 pm
Um joe
She asked you what would you do besides raising taxes on the rich
Your answer to raise taxes on the rich is a non answer
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
9:54 pm
Biden does look like a JackA$$
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:54 pm
Biden reminds me of Jody Powell….
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:54 pm
keep letting biden interrupt. he is destroying himself
Jay
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Biden does need to back it down a notch or three.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:53 pm
I think Biden is drunk.
Naw. He’s just rude. And he knows he can’t win based on record so he’s just trying to interrupt constantly and outshout Ryan- its a standard liberal tactic when they can’t win the argument.
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Hedge fund small business??? I thought the Dem argument was that Hedge funds only pay capital games??
scott
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
she is doing a good job as moderator
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Ooooooh, good one, scott, you’re winning the debate!
Actually iggy with his “drunk” comment is still ahead of you…
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Perhaps Biden don’t understand that when the Bush tax cuts expire it effects everyone without Congress passing legislation…
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
sorry Gains not games…
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
This debate is really getting sloppy.
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Ryan just got lost…
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
9:56 pm
If Biden thinks he’s endearing himself to the undecideds by constantly being a rude buffoon I’m afraid he’s wrong. Now, I’m not smart enough to fact check both candidates on the run, but, Joe needs to shut up every once in a while. Of course, the moderator is allowing chaos. Now, she’s interupting too. This will not play well with the undecideds, either. Just saying…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:56 pm
Um
Ryan may have just won the national security spending argument
Though we need to cut wasteful military spending
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:56 pm
ryan’s lies are not working.
mitt wants a 2 trillion increase for military..
iggy
October 11th, 2012
9:56 pm
“Naw. He’s just rude.”
LOL
Lord Help Us
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
Ryan is against the defense cuts that he voted for…
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
the military needs less and says they want less?
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
TaxPayer he will show the facts if looney toones Biden whould shut up long enough and quit interupting
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
Joe Biden is the man.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
getalife,
you believe anything…..the perfect dem voter
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/261579-oil-and-gas-industry-wary-of-tax-reform
Doesn’t look like Big Oil is looking for tax changes from Obama or Romney
wahoo
October 11th, 2012
9:57 pm
Biden is rude – constantly interrupting. It seems the moderator has lost control.
TN_Realist
October 11th, 2012
9:58 pm
I think VP Biden needs to ramp it up even further. Expose the continuing lies from Rep Ryan!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:58 pm
bilbob,
Joe crushed him
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
9:58 pm
DowninAlbany
And you are one of the undecideds?
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
We need one more VP debate and have Jerry Springer be the moderator.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
9:55 pm
Hedge fund small business??? I thought the Dem argument was that Hedge funds only pay capital games??
Well now what happens is that sometimes they get so mixed up in their BS that they forget these sneaky little inconsistencies.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
Biden is fine..
getalife
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
ryan agrees on Afghanistan.
Daedalus
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
Colorado just scored to take the lead 7 to 6. Buffs are hanging in there.
Of course Oregon will whip both teams in the next two weeks.
College football is always more fun to watch than politics.
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
9:59 pm
Vice President Biden has trickled down all over the
Romney campaign.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:00 pm
People expect a real argument
Crossfire brain washing. Too much “the view”
Civilized debate is an anachronism
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:00 pm
“Biden does need to back it down a notch or three.”
Weak.
He is crushing him like he should.
givememyfairshare
October 11th, 2012
10:01 pm
sorry, but my friend joe is quite the rude one tonight
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:01 pm
Jay:
Are you watchin this Biden debacle????
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:01 pm
12 more runless out until free baseball in NY!
nobodyyouknow
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
Every time Paul Ryan gets on a true and good point, Big mouth Biden interupts him. Biden is nothing more than a big mouth politician who wants to control the debate. Just like his big boss man wants to control everything else. I’m truly sorry for the tradgey that happened to his family. But that does not make him a good vice president.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
Granny
Classy and I foggy brained comment
td
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
Biden is acting like Chris Matthews.
givememyfairshare
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
Biden is doing much better than obama, he is appeasing the cool aid drinkers
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
Even with skewed polls Romney/Ryan will be up 10 points by next week…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:02 pm
“Conservative bloggers don’t like it when Biden punches back
True dat.”
Except he’s not punching. More like flailing.
scott
October 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
Joe and the Taliban will wait until 2014 to take back control
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
Now ryan wants to stay in Afghanistan.
That is bizarre and a major flip flop.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
Yeah!
Another steamrolled moderator!
Daedalus, thanks for the update!
I’m watching the Yanks/Os but can flip back and forth now.
You’d have to pay me to watch the republicrat sitcom…
Get Real
October 11th, 2012
10:03 pm
Vice President Biden has trickled down all over the
Romney campaign
What debate are you watching, you must be watching this with get-a-life
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:04 pm
Jay:
Are you watchin this Biden debacle????
You mean all those update comments underneath the live feed screen weren’t your first clue?
Not real observant, are ya?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:04 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
9:37 pm
More lies… just like the 8% claim Ryan made. But facts don’t matter to the GOP do they?
keep up,
A lie? Really? So the Dems didn’t control Congress? If that were true then how did they pass Obamacare without a single Republican vote? How did they do that genius? Got any facts keep? Any at all? No? I didn’t think so.
Stepped out with a dog but here you go Doom…. a video to walk you through the false 2 year claim…. BoomBoom.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-m-granholm/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869.html
And apparently you don’t know about reconciliation rules? BoomBoomBoom.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:04 pm
Biden say…”Hey Mr Taliban, just be cool until we leave in 2000 whenever then you can blow the hell out of everything”>
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:04 pm
Looks like the media and Jay will say Biden was too strong.
Figures.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:04 pm
Even with skewed polls Romney/Ryan will be up 10 points by next week…
Yep, in the Joseph poll…
In the Electoral College?
They’ll still be down 70…
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
JamVet:
I’m glad you realize this is over…..
Daedalus
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Sun Devils came right back and scored on a 38 yard TD pass. ASU up 13 to 7. Plenty of football left.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Ryan wants to nanny state Afghanistan
Heh, heh, heh.
beachoholic
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Ryan looks like Eddie Munster?
TJ lives
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Biden’s passion is evident. Ryan’s cool is similar to Obama’s detachment last week. Not compelling in the least.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Biden does need to back it down a notch or three.
I disagree.
Avuncular buys you lots of extra space. And Biden’s almost flawless tactically, which gives him more extra room.
td
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Now Biden is attacking the moderator that has been trying her best to protect him all night. He looks so angry. Can someone please give him a drink.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:05 pm
Frankly, here’s one telling sign
Biden, for better or worse jumps at answering the questions
Ryan is more cautious
Which is probably sensible given he’s 20 or so years younger and doesn’t want to blow it given the prez debates matter more
He’s still doing a fine job, but Biden has an edge
scott
October 11th, 2012
10:06 pm
okay. i am done watching this debate that basically means nothing. time to take the game off PIP and watch it the rest of the way.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:06 pm
I think it may be Joe’s bedtime…. And you know how folks get ill when they are sleepy?
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:06 pm
I’m
Double dog ditto
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:06 pm
Joseph
How many pts was Romney going to be up this week?
Your projections are not too good……………..
Sort of like your employment at Cox
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
10:07 pm
Ryan has had years to show some facts.. Still waiting.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
Who does Biden’s rudeness tick off?
Maybe only older voters. Social security tho.
WTH was Biden just doing
We just had a “the Biden” moment
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
ryan is getting schooled by a veteran.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
afghans to do….afghans…..mmmmmm…..noodle soup……..ensure…..mmmmm
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
Biden does need to back it down a notch or three.
Also, fact is the first debate was so disastrously passive that there’s no other way. Biden HAS to risk over-compensating to some degree. No choice.
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
Afghans to do the job
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:08 pm
Os go down 1, 2, 3 in the 8th.
Joseph reports that they put four on the board.
Baltimore 9 – 1 after 7 and a half…
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:09 pm
welcome…..bullying works…..?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:09 pm
Getalife 10:08
Hardly
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
10:09 pm
Just like last debate, the Highly partisan are not paying attention. Why are you even watching?
You won’t be honest with yourselves.
You CAN’T be honest with us.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
“Also, fact is the first debate was so disastrously passive that there’s no other way. Biden HAS to risk over-compensating to some degree. No choice.Enter your comments here”
I disagree. His goods points are overshadowed by the fact that he looks like a bad actor.
Your mileage may vary.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
Did Biden just mimic Ryan and do a quick stutter?
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
Joseph, are you drunk? (hat tip iggy)
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
I think Ryan is trying to give Biden a long leash to see if he’ll completely blow it
Probably won’t happen tho
Mr. Snarky
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
The cons don’t want to admit it (or they’re delusional) but ol’ joe is whooping Ryan.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
Thank you Vice President Biden for setting the record straight and fighting the gop lies.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:10 pm
keep up,
Weak dude. Just pathetically weak. Obama had decisive control of the House and 58-59 senators in the senate according to your own ridiculous link. The dems controlled Congress and the silly spin you are using on reconciliation doesn’t change the fact that the Ds controlled Congress.
Sometimes I do wonder just how it is that your mind can believe such an obscenely stupid argument. And a link from the Huffpo written by Dem governor isn’t proof sport. Geez.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:11 pm
Jm: “Who does Biden’s rudeness tick off?”
People who have already decided to support his opponent or are otherwise disposed not to support him anyway.
My mom’s a senior, and lifetime Republican voter, and she says Ryan’s coming off like an arrogant little prick.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:11 pm
“Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor???”
LMAO!! Love it!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:11 pm
Your mileage may vary.
I getter pretty good mileage.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Biden does need to back it down a notch or three.
I don’t agree either and I think it’s a shame that so many comments/perceptions seem to be on theatrics and posing rather than on the substance of what’s being said.
td
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
I just figured it out. Biden is Bi-Polar. One minute he is so angry he could spit and the next minute he is laughing so hard he looks delusional.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
That “getter” is going to haunt me.
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Unlike the Obama/Romney debate, I don’t think tonight’s debate is going to change anyone’s mind.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Just an epic smack down.
I am sure media will run to help the gop.
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
10:13 pm
And you are one of the undecideds?
No, but that is the target audience. I doubt the result of this debate will change anyones mind that’s on this blog. Just saying…
TJ lives
October 11th, 2012
10:13 pm
I think the fact that Biden has appeased his base and Ryan has appeased his own makes this debate a draw. It will certainly stall the Romney momentum bump from the first debate.
The partisans will each claim victory. Same as it ever was.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 11th, 2012
10:13 pm
Cons have a VP candidate that knows where Syria is on the map?
Dang. Times have changed.
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
10:14 pm
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:12 pm
Agreed.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:14 pm
Doom, definitely trying to get back on top of the pompous leader board. I don’t know if your meltdown will move you to the top, but I guess when you are desparate, its all you have. …. as usual, you lost on facts and reality.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:14 pm
getteralife
Joe is doing good.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:14 pm
Welcome
Through a senior lens that’s completely understandable
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:15 pm
Don’t Forget – “I don’t agree either and I think it’s a shame that so many comments/perceptions seem to be on theatrics and posing rather than on the substance of what’s being said.”
It’s TV. You know the whole Kennedy vs. Nixon thing. That is why I said that Biden would be coming across better if you were listening on radio.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:15 pm
Joe is having a blast.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:15 pm
Crappy question to ask either one imo
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
Its “Beany Baby”….
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
frog,
I could not agree more but would use the word great.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:16 pm
welcome,
no class lib name caller….typical bully….like your earlier point….thanks for enlightening all here…..
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
10:17 pm
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:15 pm
Yep.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:17 pm
DowninAlbany
Agreed
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:17 pm
Biden sure can handle Martha, he showed her who is boss !
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:17 pm
Grumpy Old Men IV, starring Joe Biden, coming soon to a theatre near you..
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:17 pm
Catholicism
Ryan may help get PA votes
TaxPayer
October 11th, 2012
10:18 pm
My mom’s a senior, and lifetime Republican voter, and she says Ryan’s coming off like an arrogant little prick.
That’s because Ryan doesn’t have to act the part of an arrogant little prick. Unlike Mitt Gekko Romney when he tries to act like a caring moderate.
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:18 pm
Oh, I won 5 bucks on Biden bringing up his dead wife and son so fast, that was easy money.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:18 pm
killing unborn babies is the extreme based on someone being…..’punished by a mistake for the rest of their life’ words of barrack obama……fun
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:18 pm
Joe has nice dentures.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:18 pm
He just called him congressman.
ryan wants to hide that fact.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:19 pm
If the general view is Biden executed a smack down after the debate,that would be interesting
Edge? Yes. That may be it.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:19 pm
the VP keeps saying “my friend”, i wonder if they’re really friends. something tells me their not.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
That is a lie. That is a lie…
td
October 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
Hey Joe, If it was a fact that no Catholic institution has to pay for abortion and BC then why in the h3ll if the church suing you?
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
bob, classy.
You must be one of those GOP family values types…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:20 pm
Keep up,
Sorry dude but if your mind can’t understand that the Ds controlled the House by a decisive margin and the Senate by a 58-42 or 59-41 count then there is no helping your mindset. Calling me pompous doesn’t change the fact that the Ds controlled Congress in Obama’s first 2 years. Trying to bolster your weak ass argument with some nonsense from a Dem governor that the Ds didn’t have a supermajority of 60 senators does not change the fact that the Ds had both houses of Congress. Your argument is simply beyond stupid.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
10:21 pm
Ayn Rand Catholic?
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:21 pm
Unelected judges
Like SCOTUS?
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:21 pm
Sorry Joe, no one is innocent. Everyone has an agenda.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:21 pm
A draw will be a win for
Biden considering expectations.
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
Did Biden just say employers do not have to pay for contraceptives or abortion services ?
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
Biden, “if you all would just get out of the way!”….sounds pretty bipartisan to me.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
1 out, 2 on in scoring position.
ARod can untie this mutha.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
scotus judges without an agenda?…….biggest lie of the night…..one worked on healthcare as solicitor general for obama and then didn’t excuse herself from that sc decision……my bad, i guess that’s just joe……enlightening
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
Biden says military is a sacred obligation
But cut their spending?
Um. Huh???
Daedalus
October 11th, 2012
10:22 pm
ASU scores again. Buffs driving. Only a minute to go in the first half.
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
Frog .. .. That’s the replacement for hope and change. “expect less”
Havocmaker
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
Nice try on the 47%. He is going to get slammed again.
cmac
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
Bidumb is getting kicked worse than obozo last week!! Thanks joe!
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
Ted
Half?
Got math?
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:23 pm
There’s a baseball game?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
Door open for Biden to be bipartisan
He elected partisanship
Sick
Ryan response will be interesting
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
Granny, do you still support the WEA trust sticking Wisconsin taxpayers for millions in extra healthcare premiums with their union owned insurance company ? Yeah right, your’e for the people !
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
TD
Not sure if you won, but Bookman only has an AJC coozie left to send out for gifts. let him know before someone else wins a back and forth and claims the last prize before you do.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:24 pm
Ryan also goes partisan
Blah
Missed opportunity for the middle
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:25 pm
keep up,
BTW you never offered any links to bolster your ridiculous argument that the Libyan consulate did not ask for any extra security help. I provided 2 links- one from the Huffpo and one from abc news showing where the embassy did in fact ask for extra security help. This is generally considered common knowledge although you for some mysterious reason still insist that the embassy didnt ask for any help. Still waiting for you to provide proof of yet another of your asinine assertions.
TJ lives
October 11th, 2012
10:25 pm
Republicans: they sure know what the Democrats are doing wrong…they just don’t have a workable plan of their own.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:25 pm
bman
expect less..eliminate
disappointment.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:26 pm
yeah, i guess he did break a few promises. but he’s still doing such a great job.
I just need him to get diesel prices back down to where they were a few years ago.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:26 pm
Doom
well if you can’t understand the filibuster rules and how they work, I really can’t help you. Your weakness is revealed by your inability to respond without throwing in claims of “stupid”, “weak ass”, etc. And if the lack of a 60 vote supermajority is nonsense, then I am sure you in all your self-proclaimed “genius” can refute it with facts. Again, you lost on the facts despite your meltdown.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:27 pm
There is a clear winner in this debate……….Jay trounced Kyle.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:27 pm
Yep, bman.
Baltimore is up 9 – 1 and Biden is getting crushed.
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:27 pm
Speeches.
Did you read them mr.silly pants?
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:27 pm
boogeyman fear tactics at the end by joe for people who know no better and then class warfare on taxes……definititon of spending cuts is honesty that libs can’t admit
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:27 pm
getalife: “He just called him congressman.”
The Romney-Ryan campaign specifically negotiated with the debate committee and had it agreed on that Ryan would never be addressed as “Congressman” but always as “Mr.”.
Very shrewd of Biden to pound away on that point, probably as much to rattle and get under skin of Ryan than anything the viewers would observe, at least consciously.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:28 pm
I will win the Oscar for best actor. This is generally considered common knowledge.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:28 pm
what kind of question is that?!?!?!?
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:28 pm
they both suck,
Not sure if I won anything. Other than making keep up’s 2 ridiculous arguments look stupid. But then that’s easy to do.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:28 pm
Steve-USA,
That is not a fair fight.
Con blogs blow. That is why so many of them end up over here. (grin)
cmac
October 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
Joe gets only 15 seconds because he is less of a man!
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
cliches from joe
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
the VP won, although he was very rude about it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:29 pm
I am dating Ilary Blasi. This is generally considered common knowledge.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:30 pm
WTO
Raddatz introduced him as
Congressman Ryan.
POTUS lied about the youtube video
October 11th, 2012
10:30 pm
Joe’s meds must be wearing off. He started laughing and talking in bombastic levels. Now he’s quiet and raspy.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:31 pm
I can free dive to the bottom of the Marinas Trench. This is generally considered common knowledge
Daedalus
October 11th, 2012
10:31 pm
Buffs score with 24 seconds left in the half. ASU leads 20-15.
Detroit up 2 – 0 over the A’s. Bottom of the 3rd.
Yanks and Orioles tied 1 to 1. Top of the 9th.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:31 pm
keep up,
Dude if all you can do is argue about filibuster rules then the reality is that rarely if ever has either party really controlled Congress. Your spin about filibuster is just plain weak.
The consensus view is and always has been that if your party has more of its members in the House and also in the senate then you control Congress. Its that simple. So simple that a 6th grader can understand it. You on the other hand…
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:31 pm
even shot, level playing field, fair shot, clear shot…nice job joe
Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
10:31 pm
Martha: What would you bring to the country no one else can bring?
Ryan: Honesty
Laugh line of the night!
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
Hate those open ended bs questions. Just gives them an opportunity to spew a bunch of rhetoric
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
yet another epic whoopin….. Good luck dems.. lol…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
Ryan’s close does a better job communicating to the middle and lower middle class
Biden had slight edge in debate, Ryan did a better job in closing
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
Lyin’ Ryan is embarrassed about where he works??????
I suppose I would be too if I was a leading member of the least popular Congress since the dawn of modern polling…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
A epic smack down for all time.
Vice President Biden is the man.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:32 pm
nice ending for ryan…..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
I will be the starting pitcher in game 1 of The World Series. This is generally considered common knowledge
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
kamspam with another finely articulated debate point. His intellect is truly dizzying.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
i just don’t many of my fellow middle classers doing a lot of hiring.
Zebra
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
Not having 60 means no effective control if you cannot break a filibuster.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
Doom, pomposity is all you got. Again, you lost on the facts but thanks for playing.
Ryan’s close was certainly weak.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
At the next Obama Romney debate someone should shout out “you lie” right after Romney says something. Wonder how the right would respond to that?
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
Post Debate, first thing out of Bidens mouth to Ryan…”Drinks on me!”
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
If we are worthy,
God bless America.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
Jm-
I agree with your take.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
Looked like a draw. I don’t
think hearts and minds
were changed.
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
I have a feeling the next Romney/Obama debate is going to be like watching a couple of teens argue.
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
i luv getalife…..you are funny
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
wolf runs to help the gop and calls it a draw.
Mary Elizabeth
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
Maturity and experience won this debate.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:34 pm
Chris Mathews…Clear victory for Joe Biden…LOL!
Who knew?
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:36 pm
Rah rah Raddatz
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:36 pm
His intellect is truly dizzying.
This is generally considered common knowledge.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:36 pm
Daedalus, are these political d*ckwads pre-empting the Tigers/As game?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Biden won easily.
wolf is a gop hack and works for the romney campaign.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Brokaw: Biden just revised Obama’s tax policy
Weird
Why is Biden telling Obama what to do?
Tall
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Poor old Joe……
Those forced nervous smiles said it all………..
This is leadership?
The reason I’m voting for Romney is Ryan.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Obviously Ryan won the debate because MessNBC is talking about abortion…
Mark in mid-town
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
I thought Biden got off to a pretty good start. But as debate has gone on, I’m reminded of the 162 game season in major league baseball and what that meant pre wild card days. The slogan “the cream rises to the top” would often be applied to that 162 game season. What that meant was that over a long 162 game season, the best team would win out in the end. And I think that applies to the debate tonight. Whereas Biden got off to a small lead out of the gate and stayed competitive for the first half of the debate, Ryan systematically picked up steam and I thought clearly overtook Biden in cumulative substance and effectiveness. Biden’s constant laughing and smirking and interrupting got tiring and I think that will remind some of Gore’s obnoxious performance against Bush in the fist debate in 2000. Should be interesting how the liberal media tries to spin the debate.
Marty Huggins'
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Was that Joe Biden or Jeff Dunham’s charecter “Walter”
Where was the ventriloquist?
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
Marvelous Martha
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:37 pm
wow, i actually agree with trippi
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
Getalife
Stop the spin
You’re going to get dizzy
Too much red bull for Biden
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:38 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:33 pm
Doom, pomposity is all you got. Again, you lost on the facts but thanks for playing.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Still waiting for your links to prove your ridiculous assertion that the Libyan consulate never requested more security. Where dey at???
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:39 pm
So from what I understand Eddie Joe Isuzu threw a no-no and hit a couple of grand salamis.
Is that about right, cons?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:39 pm
Ryan passed qualified to be prez test
Good
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:39 pm
The moderator did better and the truth came out.
The gop only vote for the wealthy.
Voting records don’t lie.
givememyfairshare
October 11th, 2012
10:39 pm
Biden won easily, if you’re a diehard dem yes, otherwise a draw…
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
“Biden’s constant laughing and smirking and interrupting got tiring and I think that will remind some of Gore’s obnoxious performance against Bush in the fist debate in 2000.”
Yep.
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
Well, it’s mercifully over. Biden proved again that he is a buffoon. To think this guy could rise to the Presidency should keep everyone up at night and be the one, single reason to vote for Romney.
You guys can spin it any way you like, but, Biden came across as a bipolar bully, alternating between angrily yelling gibberish to rolling his eyes to laughing uncontrollably. He seemed to be an out of control fool and Ryan really kept his composure during his constant interuptions.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
Biden had more energy for sure, obviously wasn’t in a high altitude.
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
10:40 pm
Granny Godzilla
I like Jim Lehrer but
Martha Raddatz was better.
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
And with that, Joe Biden leaves the public stage for good.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
ryan got owned.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
Doom, pomposity is all you got. Again, you lost on the facts but thanks for playing.
This is generally considered common knowledge.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
“Biden’s constant laughing and smirking and interrupting got tiring and I think that will remind some of Gore’s obnoxious performance against Bush in the fist debate in 2000.”
Haha. Well, guess we know who “won” based on all the sour faces.
nobodyyouknow
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
Dems. will say Biden won the debate. Repubs will say Ryan won. I don’t give a wad of snot who won it, its time for a change. All I know is whats happening in the area I live. And its not good. O’bama and his cronies say so many thousands of jobs have been created. WHERE THE HELL ARE THEY? The ones who are die hard O’bama followers I can assure you are mostly ones who are on some entitlement programs. JAMVET IS THIS YOU?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
Getalife
No one is buying your koolaid
givememyfairshare
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
wonder who getalife will vote for?
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
A cranky old man debating a polite young man. That’s how independents are going to see this when they look at how unlikeable and rude Biden was tonight. And how the independents see this is all that mattered.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
Doom: Still waiting for your links to prove your ridiculous assertion that the Libyan consulate never requested more security.
You can provide a link to where I made this assertion you claim I made? If not, I am sure you will apologize for the false attribution.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Ryan passed qualified to be prez test.
Of course, just like Sarah did.
The reason?
All of them will dutifully take their marching orders from their paymasters on Wall Street..
ALL of them…
Corporations Uber Alles.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Yes, Raddatz is the clear winner over Lehrer. No contest.
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Hah.
Good one, jm.
Give me a minute to get my breath back before you crack another one, okay?
Biden turned that whippersnapper over his knee and wore him out.
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
October 11th, 2012
10:41 pm
ryan got owned
You obviously didn’t watch the same debate I watched.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Nobodyyouknow
True dat
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
The funny thing is …
If Biden had not been so disruptive and annoying, this debate may have had more of an impact.
Wilbur
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Biden just committed political suicide. His is a horses rear and unfit for high office. He has made himself radioactive to all but the loony left.
Tonight Joe demolished what was left of Obama’s hollow promises of a post partisan third way. Joe was no longer the doddering grandfather; instead, he is a jerk.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:43 pm
Jay. What say you?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
barking frog: ‘Raddatz introduced him as
Congressman Ryan”
Didn’t catch that. Wonder why.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
givememyfairshare
October 11th, 2012
10:42 pm
wonder who getalife will vote for?
I would think he would vote for Obama. But ya never know. He may try to do a write in vote for Karl Marx.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
A cranky old man debating a polite young man.
The bromance is palpable.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
Free baseball in NY!
Flatline
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
I could care less who won this debate. This debate has been going on amongst Americans for years. There is never a consensus. There is never a bona fide answer. We all hang on every word, but the words are meaningless. No one won tonight. We the people lose again. We the people remain divided in the middle. We are pawns.
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:44 pm
Biden laughed because it was funny.
Sardonically
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
@10:39 that is
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
Bman
Very possible
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
Iggy – “Jay. What say you?”
Top of the page!
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
Meat, yep I’m a proud communist member of the 47% club.
I get the best health care in the world for free.
Thank you, VA…
(I know, I know. It sucks to be you.)
nobodyyouknow
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
GETALIFE, nobody won the stupid debate. But if that gets your rocks off go ahead and gloat.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:45 pm
I like a fighter and don’t want it toned down or no interruptions.
Our country is at stake.
The gop will destroy it again.
I have no doubt.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:46 pm
Jay. What say you?
Scroll to the top of the page.
Cast your gaze to the live feed screen.
Read the update comments below.
Geez….
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
10:46 pm
I guess Kam didn’t watch the congressional testimony yesterday where Lt. Col. Wood testified he sent two requests for additional security. In all actually one request was just to not take away two of the three STS teams in place.
jack bull
October 11th, 2012
10:46 pm
time to go to bed, got to get up early and go to the middle class and see if they’ll hire me tomorrow.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
10:47 pm
Biden was a jerk?
Outstanding!
I’m beyond sick of these pansy Democrats.
They need to tell the neocons to FOAD…
The Mid-South Philosopher
October 11th, 2012
10:47 pm
Memo to Vice President Joe Biden
Mr. Vice President,
Owing to reasons which are sufficient to myself, I have never disrespected you or attempted to make you the object of ridicule, save the use of the colloquial version of your first name…”Joey”, which was always done with good humor.
HOWEVER, tonight you have OFFENDED me.
In you final response to a question by the moderator, you have asserted that the “only” “SACRED” duty of government was to take care of our TROOPS!
NOW, DON’T MISUNDERSTAND ME, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TROOPS AND “VETERANS.” That is a “sacred duty”, but
there is a greater “sacred duty.”
It is to DEFEND AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES FROM ALL ENEMIES “FOREIGN” AND “DOMESTIC”!!!!
Mr. Vice President, you might want to remember that!
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:47 pm
Tanks Steve.
TGT
October 11th, 2012
10:47 pm
Jay: “A solid win for Biden.”
Biden was like the angry old man (with a weird grin on his face): “Get off my lawn!!!”
Joseph
October 11th, 2012
10:48 pm
This debate was kind of like watchin your child in a school play.. u have to say they did good.. I guess thats what Biden will hear..
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:48 pm
Joe Biden is currently en route to Andrew Sullivan’s house to softly rock him to sleep.
Heh, heh, heh.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
10:49 pm
fox is whining about ryan losing.
Hilarious.
Melt down.
You cons thought ryan would wipe the floor with Biden.
You lost.
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
10:49 pm
seems like Biden came out a little ahead
Tall
October 11th, 2012
10:49 pm
…”All of them will dutifully take their marching orders from their paymasters on Wall Street..
JamVet:
Wall Street gave more campaign dollars to Obama in the last election. Then…well…Obama being Obama, be threw them under the bus.
Jealous Often?
October 11th, 2012
10:50 pm
After the catatonic Obama debate, I’m GLAD Biden went for the jugular and acted a little crazed. It’s called passion and it’s something the Republicans know nothing about!
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:50 pm
Steph cutter is on, does she ever open her mouth without lying ? Earlier she blamed Romney for the obo admin for the ambassador fiasco and now she just said the polls have not changed since ht elast debate.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
10:51 pm
nobodyyouknow,
I appreciate your frustration. Things are not what you’d hoped. The current climate is not what you need. But look at it this way: shrinkage vs. growth. The economy was shrinking fast. Shrinkage stopped. (Whew!) Growth began. Yes, it’s slow, but it’s growth. If you can’t fly back up the mountain, you have to climb it one step at a time. There’s no magic jet pack, Hon. No quick fix. But that does not mean we can’t get back up it. It just means it’s going to take longer and be harder than we thought. Growth is good, so keep pushing, and don’t let it keep you down, okay? A return to the policies that shoved us off the cliff… probably not the best solution. Hang in there!
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:51 pm
The close makes a big difference jay
Ryan lucked out and got last word
Ryan’s close was pretty darn strong
And it may outweigh the fact that Ryan was slightly worse in the debate
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:51 pm
NBC
Lots of Biden lies
Biden voted in favor of both wars
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
10:52 pm
Once again Biden shows his smiling buffoonery for the upteenth time during his less than stellar political career.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:53 pm
NBC: a draw
Jealous Often?
October 11th, 2012
10:54 pm
Yeah, smiling buffoonery is the normal response to pathological obfuscation and distortion.
bob
October 11th, 2012
10:54 pm
Granny, why should the children lose out to the union when it comes to money ? 1.2 million in one district alone taken from the children and put in the pockets of the teachers union in Wisoonsin.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:55 pm
There was no slam dunk, defining moment from Biden. Ryan held his own, stumbled a few times, however, he did counter punch Biden.
Biden laughs, behaves like an idiot, but that is typical Joe. Ryan was cool, reserved, as is typical Ryan.
Would be a tie at best, however, since Biden couldnt derail Ryan. Ryan held his own against Biden, hence, win by default for Ryan.
In the long run though it probably wont matter much other than Ryan didnt blow it for Romney and Biden didnt blow it for Obama.
Would seem a tie
Granny Godzilla
October 11th, 2012
10:55 pm
Andrew Sullivan….
I’ll read him after a treat
La la
La la
…la la
Sweet dreams all.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
10:55 pm
Biden voted in favor of both wars
He didn’t win the 2008 nomination.
Geez….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
well fock, your time here will be short… so let me be the first to say…bye bye
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
NBC
VP debate meaningless
I agree, unless Ryan said something incredibly stupid
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
Honestly, this was a waste of time.
For the most part, on this blog, the “my party is right” crowd didn’t even pay attention to the ACTUAL debate.
Their guy could have FARTED their reply, and the PARTISAN IDIOTS would have said “He crushed him with that reply”.
PITIFUL!!!!
Mick
October 11th, 2012
10:56 pm
jm
Pretty good analysis….I think you were almost spot on….I don’t agree that ryan passed the president test but he held his own….glad neither of them is at the top of the ticket…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:57 pm
And Ryan didn’t say anything stupid
bman
October 11th, 2012
10:57 pm
“I’m GLAD Biden went for the jugular and acted a little crazed. It’s called passion”
Chris Christie could rap and breakdance with passion, too. It wouldn’t make it look any prettier.
iggy
October 11th, 2012
10:57 pm
“Their guy could have FARTED their reply, and the PARTISAN IDIOTS would have said “He crushed him with that reply”.
LOL
Ruth Bronstein
October 11th, 2012
10:58 pm
Nice to see a Democrat be aggressive this time. I do wish Vice President Biden hadn’t been so quick to interrupt or to laugh or to seem condescending. I’m afraid that might hurt us with the independent voters. They tend not to like “smug”, and they’re going to be terribly important in a lot of key states this time.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
10:58 pm
Jm,
I could see people thinking Joe won the debate by a slight edge if he hadn’t been so rude and out of control. If you go by the transcript its even or Biden wins very slightly. But if you saw it and saw Biden who was completely without composure then you have to give it to Ryan. Joe Biden’s demeanor was horrific and certainly not presidential for a man one heartbeat away from the presidency. That’s going to go very poorly with independents. Very poorly.And that’s all that matters.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
10:59 pm
Mick, just trying to call it as I see it
Not sure whether anyone moved the needle tonight
The main thing was Ryan avoiding a big mistake, which he did
Only downside for ryan and Ryan didn’t blow it
USMC
October 11th, 2012
10:59 pm
Tonight’s Victory goes to ROMNEY!
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
11:00 pm
bman -”Chris Christie could rap and breakdance with passion, too. It wouldn’t make it look any prettier.”
LOL That gave me quite the visual.
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
11:00 pm
Biden proved himself this evening as he’s done often to be far less than a compliment toward uplifting Obama’s failed presidency.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
11:00 pm
Biden lost it purely on buffoonery. The man looked anything but vice presidential.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:01 pm
fock, thank you for your views.
As a Black man tell me why I should vote for Romney.
Thanks in advance.
Mary Elizabeth
October 11th, 2012
11:01 pm
(1) Ryan’s lack of depth of understanding regarding foreign affairs is troublesome.
(2) Biden is correct that middle class people having to pay more than $2000. more a year in the Romney/Ryan tax plan when they are just getting by is too much for them to have to absorb – especially when they must exist on lower incomes in the financial framework of the nation.
(3) Biden was wise to point out that if Romney/Ryan win this election, then 2 more Supreme Court Justices would probably be selected which would probably undo Roe vs. Wade. A woman must have the right to make her own decisions regarding abortion and birth control – which will effect her life in profound ways – with doctor, her partner, and her God/conscience. Those highly personal decisions must not be decided by politicians for her, as long as the embryo has not developed to a viable child in uterus.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:01 pm
Doom 10:58
You could be right
But if Biden had been passive, the democrats would’ve been toast
First FL advert after debate: Obama ad
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:01 pm
“And Ryan didn’t say anything stupid”
I have to disagree. In answer to the question, “What would you bring to the country no one else can bring?”, Ryan’s “Honesty” was probably the singular most idiotic statement I’ve witnessed.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
11:02 pm
I’m out. Tough luck for the cranky old buffoon tonight.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
11:02 pm
Actually, I thought Biden chuckling and shaking his head, and then correcting, was a much more polite way to respond to Ryan’s bald-faced lies than screaming “BULLDOOKIE” or popping the kid the way a nun pops a lying little punk in Catholic school.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:02 pm
Joe Biden looked like an ANGRY, LOOSE Cannon!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:02 pm
corporate media are trying desperately to help the gop but the truth and facts are out.
Biden won easily and they want to talk about Joe laughing and having a blast.
Great debate and an epic smack down on the gop for the ages.
Thank you Vice President Biden for saving our country from the gop destroying it again for four more years.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:02 pm
doom
Partisan much? Romney coming out and issuing a statement on the day of the benghazi incident was an epic fail and indefensible, ryan didn’t help him much on that. Biden was annoying sometimes with the body language but….he signaled the way a lot of people feel about ryans shell game in economics, it’s a joke and not credible…
Jealous Often?
October 11th, 2012
11:03 pm
This debate was a draw.
Romney had momentum.
That ended tonight.
Jhunt163
October 11th, 2012
11:03 pm
CNN’s independent panel had 1/3 for Biden, 1/3 for Ryan, and 1/3 still undecided. A couple of comments were made that Biden acted like a buffoon though.
RB from Gwinnett
October 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
“They need to tell the neocons to FOAD…”
Tell us all some more fairy tales about how you’re not a liberal Jammie.
Old Joe apparently thinks we weren’t aware there were hearings yesterday on the Libya coverup. News to joe, just because POS rags like the AJC won’t run the story doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. I really don’t care who in the administration made up the video excuse, I want to know why. There is no dispute it was made up, why?
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
USMC
October 11th, 2012
10:59 pm
Tonight’s Victory goes to ROMNEY!
________________________________
And tonight’s LOSS goes to AMERICA.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
Well I see Doom failed to provide a link to back his false claims or his apology…. just backed out the door again claiming he made boomboom.
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
Howdy Mattie,
“was a much more polite way to respond to Ryan’s bald-faced lies than screaming “BULLDOOKIE””
But wasn’t that what Biden essentially did early on?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:04 pm
Watch the poll numbers go to our President and the gop will call it a vast left wing conspiracy.
cons are so predictable.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:05 pm
“This debate was a draw.
Romney had momentum.
That ended tonight.”
Um, not likey
A draw helps the dem base, but it helps republicans continue to win the moderates
Matti
October 11th, 2012
11:06 pm
jewcowboy,
He said “malarkey,” didn’t he? Haha! Yes, much more polite than what I was thinking!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:07 pm
Well I see Doom failed to provide a link to back his false claims or his apology…
This is generally considered common knowledge.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:07 pm
The only two words I wished Joe used were “terrorist sympathizer” but he proved mitt is not a leader and made the point.
Other than that, it was a brilliant performance by VP Biden.
He showed the President how it was done.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:08 pm
If you are like 98% of your race you will vote for Obama because of the color of his skin.
There’s your sign.
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:08 pm
Overall, as Jay wrote, Ryan did hold his own, but, in my opinion, he came off more scripted than knowledgeable. Biden spoke more directly and intimately but came off a little overbearing, especially in the beginning. Overall probably an edge to Biden. But it was 1000% more entertaining than the Presidential debate that was so policy wonky I would have fallen asleep if I hadn’t been doing laundry.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:08 pm
“As a Black man tell me why I should vote for Romney”
The absolutely WRONG question to ask if you aren’t Narcissistic and you are FOR the country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLdA1ikkoEc
Who cares if you are BLACK?
What happened to Dr. King’s message??? You know better than that.
.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:08 pm
jm
There were no winners or losers…on to tuesday and another “performance” the narrative will drive the stakes even higher and obama is up to bat with an 0 -1 count…
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:08 pm
Ok, turning to Family Guy.
Something MORE believable.
Nite all.
Don’t forget your Obama/Romney dolls, while the REAL power brokers pick our President.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
fock
Blacks vote majority Democrat even when the candidate is white.
just saying
Are you able to be more in depth with your analysis (j/k: your answer wasn’t even close to a realistic analysis).
How do you account for the numerous black business owners and those in corporate America who vote Democrat? Do they not have personal responsibility?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
Getalife
Go do some trickle down
You’ve had too much kool aid
Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
Good Job, Joe. It’s tough dealing in reality with a lying, arrogant little idealogue, but you were very, very good tonight, and thanks!
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
“Where is the link”…the cry from sorry liberals who can’t think for themselves.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
Some things never change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3RHnKYNvx8
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:09 pm
“Now who is more bigoted, me for my honest views, or you black guy?”
Um…from the mind blowingly bigoted statement you wrote, I think we have our answer.
Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
11:10 pm
Paul Ryan is Ayn Rand!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:10 pm
The Dems are happy and they should be.
corporate media are depressed and they should be.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:11 pm
Correction….make that two balls and one strike….biden came with a pair…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:11 pm
Mick 11:08
He will do better
He has to
He has nowhere to go but up after the last debate
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
11:12 pm
Del is clueless as usual. Generally considered common knowledge.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:12 pm
I do love a good smack down.
Run along cons thoroughly defeated.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:13 pm
“Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
11:10 pm
Paul Ryan is Ayn Rand!”
An incredibly sophisticated democrat analysis for everyone to study
Matti
October 11th, 2012
11:13 pm
Mick @ 11:11,
getalife
October 11th, 2012
11:13 pm
I will not rub it in anymore jm.
The sun will rise tomorrow.
Mike
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
Hopefully someone other than the UGA coaching staff prepares Obama for the next debate!
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
jm
Not necessarily….the obama you saw at the last debate was essentially who he was, can he really keep pounding the 47% after biden? I guess, but he needs fresh material of which there is no shortage.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
Recon is back
Hope the Cox Board of Directors provided you with a satisfactory answer to whatever was ailing you awhile back.
Peter
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
Wow… Obama blew it… Really ???? By saving America and the free world from going bankrupt ? Saving the auto industry Romney wanted to let go under ?
Getting Bin Laden ? No attack on American soil ?
Ryan talked about the money given out by Obama as bad…..But got him some didn’t he ?
So what was it bad or good Ryan ?
Said he agreed with Afghanistan……then said they would have done it differently…… gosh driving from the rear view mirror is easy I guess…..
After Bush the Republican’s implosion of the US housing market, job market, starting two wars without a meaningful way to pay for any of it…..cause “deficits don’t matter ” with guys like Romney making Millions after tossing American jobs over seas and playing Gordon Gekko…
All of a sudden Romney is a job creator ? HA HA HA. In India ???? Where ?????
The best was the ” Co-Operation ” of the two sides Romney talks about…..Gee when did the Republican’s want to help the President help American’s ?
Please name a time REPUBLICAN’S said let’s work together to make America better ?
Anyone ?
Thrash
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
Biden is nothing but a DRUNK.
Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
11:14 pm
NBC snap poll: Biden won by 20 points.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
Getalife
Suffering from delusion
Fock Obama – classless spoofing. Democrats are disgusting sometimes
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
fock
Thanks for the non answer. Figured you would come back with bs. People like you are not new around here. You are probably just a regular’s sock puppet.
Everyone have a great night
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
Matti, I agree on “marlarkey” ….. Somehow the movie Animal House kept coming to mind for the response I was thinking….. [sneeze]
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:15 pm
“I do love a good smack down.”–Getalife
Yeah, You gonna like that smackdown Saturday when South Carolina Smacks that A$$ in Baton rouge!
Tom Middleton
October 11th, 2012
11:16 pm
Jm
And you can teach them. LOL
Z
October 11th, 2012
11:16 pm
Ryan was specific on only one issue at tonights debate and that is, he and Romney have every intention of taking rights away from Women. He doesn’t know much about anything else,except maybe saving those loopholes for the Wealthy, but yep, him and Romney will be taking rights away from Women. Tells me all I need to know about the Romney Ryan ticket!
Peter
October 11th, 2012
11:17 pm
fock obuma… Hey wake up….. Obama was elected because Bush almost created another great Depression and put two wars on a credit card.Duhhhhh !
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:17 pm
Mick
Obama will definitely rehash the 47% thingy
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
11:17 pm
biden came with a pair…upstair but sadly only hair plugs on the down stair.
Matti
October 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
“Have respect for the people you debate with.”
Our new friend thinks he understands how to debate with respect? After what he posted HERE tonight? Bless his heart.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
fock: He has no self respect, he takes his orders from a colored!
I do believe we have a real Son of a Confederate KKK Veteran posting. Just offensive.
Peter
October 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
Z you hit the nail on the head……… Women watch out !!!!! They will take you back 100 years !
independent thinker
October 11th, 2012
11:18 pm
Thank God for Joe Biden!
He covered all the bases in why a Romney?Ryan presidency could lead to a disaster
my favorite was how he repeatedly invoked Reagan’s name and discussed how he personally negotiated with Reagan and otthers the restructuring of social security – made Ryan look like an inexperienced preppy.
So you cons ready for your boys to get us into another war in the middle east?
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:19 pm
fock obuma
October 11th, 2012
11:05 pm
Black Guy, if you believe in personal responsibility and individualism, you will become conservative. –fock, I used to be a conservative, I was at Herman Cain’s rally when he announced his run. I bet I have been to more teaparty rally’s than you.
If you are like 98% of your race you will vote for Obama because of the color of his skin. Now who is more bigoted, me for my honest views, or you black guy? — Do you think the republican party can win the Presidency with 0% of the Black vote? If not, do you think you will get it with the statement above?
Maybe you should stop ASSuming, and talk TO people instead of AT people.
The regulars on here will tell you that I am center RIGHT, and NOT an Obama fan.
Marty Huggins'
October 11th, 2012
11:19 pm
fock obuma
October 11th, 2012
11:13 pm
Why?
As in why decide in the middle of the night to come on a blog and go all bigot on all blacks?
How are you able to decide why it is any individual votes the way they do let alone an entire race?
Which is it prescriptions or home chemistry based substances?
Maybe good ole over consumption of alcohol?
Too aggressive for it to be weed
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:20 pm
Hair plugs again? A bit sophmoric at this level don’t you think??? So joe annoyed you? That’s why we love him…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:20 pm
Peter
Fock Obama is a lib silly
Get with the program
gm
October 11th, 2012
11:20 pm
For anybody think Mitt and Paul will get poor, middle class white dead in another war please vote for Mitt, Biden is for the middle class, now President Obama will close the show.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:20 pm
“Correction….make that two balls and one strike….biden came with a pair…”–Mick
Biden looked FAKE, ANGRY, DISHONEST and UNBALANCED….
Victory goes to ROMNEY/RYAN.
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
11:21 pm
“Del is clueless as usual. Generally considered common knowledge”
Yes, among the commoners like keep up the food fight.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:21 pm
classless spoofing.
Glass house, meet stone.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:22 pm
that black guy
It’s garbage like that which exposes the hatred beneath the surface – unacceptable!!!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:23 pm
Fock Obama is a lib silly
Fock Obama is jm
gm
October 11th, 2012
11:24 pm
That Black Guy
I guess the 90% of blacks who voted for Clinton and Carter and JFK are bigots? you right nut jobs are sick.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:24 pm
The telling sign that Biden was Unbalanced and overly nervous was his UNCONTROLLABLE, fake smile.
Soldier Mom
October 11th, 2012
11:25 pm
Biden did it. Now it will be up to Obama and I suspect it will be wildly different than what we saw last week. Game on. The sleeping monster has awakened.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:25 pm
usmc
Ryan looked like a GEEKY, WONKY, GREENHORN. Where was the beef?
barking frog
October 11th, 2012
11:26 pm
fock obuma
October 11th, 2012
11:22 pm
HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A
LIB!!! I am as conservative
as it comes. I have sexual
fantasies about Nixon.
………..
from your nom de blog
you must fantasize about
Obama also.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:26 pm
Everyone, please forgive me.
I responded to “fock” before I read *it’s* posts.
Sorry
dre
October 11th, 2012
11:27 pm
Jay. Even CNN is giving the advantage to Ryan. Lol. What were you watching? If possible, Biden became even more unlikable and came across as more incompetent than before.
gm
October 11th, 2012
11:27 pm
Two things you can count on the Ryan ticket, medicare vochers and more dead poor and middle class whites in another war.
Recon 0311 2533
October 11th, 2012
11:29 pm
“That’s why we love him…”
Buffoonery and hair plugs most of all. The drool aid cures everything for lib androids. Oh well, forever thus.
Doggone/GA
October 11th, 2012
11:29 pm
“I responded to “fock” before I read *it’s* posts.”
Yeah, well…hang in there. You’ll eventually develop an “ear” for posters who are just trying to provoke.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
11:30 pm
So Biden bullied Eddie?
Too funny.
Except for even more whining from the Cult of Victimhood Crybabies…
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
11:30 pm
gm
October 11th, 2012
11:24 pm
That Black Guy
I guess the 90% of blacks who voted for Clinton and Carter and JFK are bigots? you right nut jobs are sick.
___________________________________
gm, how many “right nut jobs” do you know that stood in line 4 hrs in 2008 to vote FOR Obama?
Does it really hurt when you are FORCED to think?
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:33 pm
del
More like some truth about medicare and foreign policy…hair plugs what does that really have to do with anything cuz your fixated…
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:35 pm
“Ryan looked like a GEEKY, WONKY, GREENHORN. Where was the beef?”–Mick
Mick, I love you, but you are clueless.
You are the only person in the world that still thinks Obama won last weeks debate.
You live the good life down there in Miami!
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:36 pm
Winning line of the night with moderates: “I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that, women, that they can’t control their body. It’s a decision between them and their doctor, in my view, and the Supreme Court. I’m not going to interfere with that.” ~ Biden
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:37 pm
CNN: Breaking News RYAN 48%……. Joe Biden 44%
VICTORY goes to Romney/Ryan!
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:39 pm
Um
Fock is definitely not jm
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:39 pm
RYAN ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS!
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:40 pm
Breaking News…USMC has nipped into the scotch a wee bit too much this evening.
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:41 pm
That is interesting
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/11/cnn-poll-on-debate-winner-ryan-48-biden-44/?hpt=hp_t1
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:41 pm
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:40 pm
Breaking News…USMC has nipped into the scotch a wee bit too much this evening.
LinkReport this comment
- no such thing as too much scotch
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:41 pm
um
jm definitely doesn’t know who or what fock is.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:42 pm
Biden came across as an ANGRY Used Car Salesman with Bleached fake teeth and Hair Plugs!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:43 pm
That is interesting
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/11/cnn-poll-on-debate-winner-ryan-48-biden-44/?hpt=hp_t1
Also posted 4 minutes before you did.
Not very observant, are you?
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:43 pm
” I don’t recall a veep debate in which the tops of the ticket, Romney and Obama in this case, were mentioned so seldom.”
I recall Ryan talking a bout romney’s charity and compassion
I don’t recall Biden doing a similar thing once
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:43 pm
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: It’s been done a couple of times.
BIDEN: It has never been done before.
RYAN: Jack Kennedy lowered tax rates and increased growth. Ronald Reagan –
BIDEN: Oh, now you’re Jack Kennedy.
Who else was reminded of this? http://youtu.be/O-7gpgXNWYI
Cheesy Grits
October 11th, 2012
11:43 pm
Biden won big on the CBS poll by 20 points.
Biggest thing coming out of the debate will be that women will now understand that under Romney/Ryan they will have less control over their own reproductive decisions.
The Government will do that for them.
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:43 pm
“- no such thing as too much scotch”
I second that!
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:44 pm
usmc
I don’t think obama “won” the debate last week…I think romneyclaus agreed about not cutting anything yet magically reducing the debt? Well, he was specific about cutting pbs…in the end there are no real winners, only spinners…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
11:44 pm
Kamspam
Keep doing your thing
No one cares but you
clem
October 11th, 2012
11:45 pm
reason biden smiled is all the bs ryan spouted…..what should he have done? hang his head and not react….ryan when he disagreed with biden’s point did not bare his teeth, but instead smirked…..
biden beat ryan i’d say 55-45 but both bases will be pleased.
think the cnn poll makes you wonder about america……..
does anyone in their right mind think the great recession coutd have been turned around (with repub intrasigence) in 4 years….
don’t think uk doing all that well with consers in power and they had olympics to stir economy.
can’t see his tax returns, can’t see details of tax plan (mortgages on the table but not carried interest), can’t get straight answer on abortion, couldn’t spell out any significant differences on syria etal……
what is the expression ….trust the devil you know
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:45 pm
Jm,
“- no such thing as too much scotch”
Depending on the particular poison, I’ll concede the point
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:46 pm
“Breaking News…USMC has nipped into the scotch a wee bit too much this evening.”–Jewcowboy
That was pretty Darn FUNNY, Jewcowboy! Seriously.
I don’t care how wrong you are with your politics!
Cheesy Grits
October 11th, 2012
11:46 pm
Also Biden scored big with the stimulus.
Ryan criticized it but then had to admit he asked for stimulus funds himself.
Goes hand in hand with Romney who will take whatever position suits him at the moment.
clem
October 11th, 2012
11:49 pm
that dumb ship ryan voted for the repub version of stimulus that was 700bil 85% of what passed but clearly not enough by many economists that support keynesian policies
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:49 pm
The moderator was good but the catholic question was strange….and effective. Two catholics with polar opposite views on abortion. As a retired catholic, I come squarely down in the biden wing, he nailed it while ryan wants more gov’t between a personal decision…
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:50 pm
Breaking News: MSNBC is calling the debate for Ryan!
You guys are done!
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:50 pm
“I love that, I love that. This is such a bad program and he writes me a letter saying — writes the Department of Energy a letter saying — the reason we need this stimulus, it will create growth and jobs. His words. And now he’s sitting here looking at me. I wish he would just tell the — be a little more candid.” ~ Biden
But but…Ryan’s the only person that can bring “honesty” to the country.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:51 pm
usmc
Who might fox be calling it for? Hmmmm…
Its ME
October 11th, 2012
11:52 pm
Jay you asshat. if a hard core partisan like u says biden barely won all i hate to say it AWESOME
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:52 pm
JOE BIDEN= The Bionic Used Car Salesman Smile!
Biden has a bright future in DENTURE commercials!
clem
October 11th, 2012
11:53 pm
usmc, i just flipped it there, msnbc, you must be drunk
cnn 48/44 ryan
cbs 50/31 biden on undecided votes
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:53 pm
CNN/ORC poll: 48% of registered voters watching debate say Ryan won. 44% say Biden won. Sampling error is +/- 5%.
Cheesy Grits
October 11th, 2012
11:54 pm
Jay you asshat. if a hard core partisan like u says biden barely won all i hate to say it AWESOME
Is that English?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
11:54 pm
MSNBC is calling the debate for Ryan!
When you have to lie to make a point, you have no point.
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:55 pm
Very bad decorum to come on here and call the host names. Someone’s parents failed them.
Cheesy Grits
October 11th, 2012
11:55 pm
Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night’s vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney’s GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.
Of the 431 polled immediately following the debate, 31 percent deemed Ryan the winner, and 19 percent said they felt it was a tie. Party-wise it’s a switch from last week’s presidential debate, which uncommitted voters handed easily to Romney over President Obama.
Biden won.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
11:55 pm
Well, now that this “debate’ proves that the election is obviously going to go to Team Sudden Reversal, you cons have blown your chance at easy money.
Rubes…
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:56 pm
CNN: Undecided Voted are 8 high points for RYAN and 5 High points for BIDEN…
No Drudgey Spam, Ladies!
Mick
October 11th, 2012
11:56 pm
Well, enough already, the spin is on and on and on……
USMC
October 11th, 2012
11:57 pm
“usmc, i just flipped it there, msnbc, you must be drunk”
Sorry, I meant CNN… Ryan 48% to Bidens 44%….same difference!
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
11:57 pm
Joseph poll – 100% of registered Josephs say Ryan won and UGA wins fifth national championship
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:58 pm
“8 high points”
Ahhhh…so it’s not scotch you’re ingesting this evening.
Cheesy Grits
October 11th, 2012
11:59 pm
A CBS instant poll taken immediately after tonight’s vice presidential debate found that Vice President Joe Biden handily beat Republican hopeful Paul Ryan among a group of undecided voters.
Biden got 50 percent of the vote, whereas Ryan earned 31 percent. Nineteen percent said it was a tie.
jewcowboy
October 11th, 2012
11:59 pm
And yes… USMC…we know it’s for your glaucoma.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 12th, 2012
12:00 am
Sorry, I meant CNN…
Caught in a lie and can’t walk it back.
gm
October 12th, 2012
12:01 am
For all you war hawks on the right did you hear Paul said we should send more troops in danger zone oppose to Afghanistan: troops? wow just what America needs more dead soldiers.
USMC
October 12th, 2012
12:01 am
Laughing Joe looks like the Joker on Batman… Bad Plastic Surgery!
clem
October 12th, 2012
12:02 am
cnn the organization that is tanking …..yea, i belleve them, not
Let Detroit Go Bankrupt!
October 12th, 2012
12:02 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s&ob=av2e
USMC
October 12th, 2012
12:03 am
“And yes… USMC…we know it’s for your glaucoma.”–JC
LOL! You are on a roll tonight!
I love all of these Libs whining because they KNOW that RYAN won the debate!
BIDEN = LOSER!
Cheesy Grits
October 12th, 2012
12:03 am
For all you war hawks on the right did you hear Paul said we should send more troops in danger zone oppose to Afghanistan: troops? wow just what America needs more dead soldiers.
They will keep those wars going forever.
Its time for those boys to come home.
Jm (LL)
October 12th, 2012
12:03 am
cheers folks, I’m out
USMC – scotch is a wonderful invention
clem
October 12th, 2012
12:03 am
and if we could put Ryan’s ears on boats we wouldn’t need sails
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:04 am
jamvet is a bad person who kicks puppies and hates the colroed folk
Cheesy Grits
October 12th, 2012
12:04 am
Laughing Joe looks like the Joker on Batman… Bad Plastic Surgery!
The only clown here is you.
Oscar
October 12th, 2012
12:05 am
hates the colroed folk
________
What color does he hate. Red, yellow, brown, pink, ruddy. We need to be specific here.
jewcowboy
October 12th, 2012
12:05 am
“Bad Plastic Surgery!”
Hey…not everyone can have tickets to the gun show.
http://www.upworthy.com/why-would-you-ever-do-this-if-youre-running-for-vice-president?c=bl3
Cheesy Grits
October 12th, 2012
12:06 am
Biden won. Handily.
Obama will get a bump in the next few days as seniors and women move back towards his ticket.
The 47 percent thing is going to end up costing Romney the election.
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:06 am
biden does have some sexy teeth!
USMC
October 12th, 2012
12:06 am
“Joseph poll – 100% of registered Josephs say Ryan won and UGA wins fifth national championship”–Jamvet
The desperation is oozing!
It sucks when you know YOUR guy lost and his Boss got Shellacked last week!
BOZO is done!
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:07 am
im thinking aqua and and purple
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:08 am
if obama dies we have this buffoon as pres HOLY ST*&
USMC
October 12th, 2012
12:09 am
Breaking News: Rush Limbaugh calls Ryan the winner of the debate!
clem
October 12th, 2012
12:12 am
i think you like ryan because he is a slightlly better looking gomer pyle
jewcowboy
October 12th, 2012
12:13 am
G’night all. And USMC…seriously…put down the spliff.
http://youtu.be/Azf320JDdqU
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:15 am
jewcowboy
October 12th, 2012
12:13 am
G’night all. And USMC…seriously…put down the spliff.
http://youtu.be/Azf320JDdqU
seriously i suggest suicide
getalife
October 12th, 2012
12:16 am
ryan said they are open to stay in Afghanistan.
That is breaking news for tomorrow.
clem
October 12th, 2012
12:17 am
maybe usmc can reup
John
October 12th, 2012
12:19 am
Biden came across as a petulant child. He obviously memorized his talking points. And, it’s equally obvious that he was overly aggressive to compensate for Obama’s pathetic debate last week. In all, I thought Biden was a lunatic. The Dems will be leaving office in January. These guys are in way over their heads.
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:20 am
there are multiple people i could care less if they live or die
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:22 am
Jay, suicide is an option for u too!
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:32 am
fudge and poop
slapshot
October 12th, 2012
12:32 am
Biden’s pompous, typical liberal left wing snide and wacky attitude lost him the debate, even if he had 30 years “experience” on Ryan. Deal with it libs. You people should have chosen Hillary, but you let your media choose your candidate in 2008. Oh and by the way, I’ll take Bush’s average 5.1% unemployment rate 2004-2008 (BLS, see below) back and $2 gas prices and cheaper food and energy bills ANY day of the week over what we have now.
2004
5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005
5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006
4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007
4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008
5.0 4.9 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.3
2009
7.8 8.3 8.7 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.8 10.0 9.9 9.9
2010
9.7 9.8 9.8 9.9 9.6 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.8 9.4
2011
9.1 9.0 8.9 9.0 9.0 9.1 9.1 9.1 9.0 8.9 8.7 8.5
2012
8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.2
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
12:33 am
jay if u die who is going to take ur job stuart smalley?
Doggone/GA
October 12th, 2012
12:39 am
It takes a special kind of weird to come here and address comments to someone you know perfectly well isn’t even here.
Appleseed
October 12th, 2012
12:52 am
A wet behind the ears preppy,and with those ears it would take lots of Boehners tears just to cause a dampness.Obama,Biden 4 more years.Loved it.
RF
October 12th, 2012
12:58 am
slapshot: would you go back to the sudden, calamitous fall of the economy under Bush because his buddies on Wall St. went nuts and ended up collapsing most folks retirement, savings, and home investments? If you had an investment account, what was it worth after the Bush years? Looked good until about the middle of ‘08 and probably bled out over half its value. Just look at home values alone. My house, a modest 3/2 about 25 years old, lost 40k in value in one year. Yeah, those Bush years were great. Gas, btw, was over $3 a gallon in Georgia by ‘07 (that’s the year I bought the Honda 4 cyl.) and is about where it was then. You can check on gasbuddy.com and find several charts that will show you the up and down for up to 8 years. The only nice fall in prices was late in ‘08 after the economy tanked.
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
1:01 am
dumbest board ever
Welcome to the Occupation
October 12th, 2012
1:05 am
slapshot, Bush was a runaway bus hurtling off a cliff into outright depression, financial ruin. Complete bankruptcy intellectually.
An observer
October 12th, 2012
1:55 am
Biden was the jerk he always is. The problem with Washington is people like Biden who scoff at others and are not interested in a reasonable discussion on the issues. All they want to do is score points for their side and disrespect the other guy.
getalife
October 12th, 2012
2:20 am
Joe set the record straight and sick of the gop and their media lies.
Media is crying about it because Joe made them look horrible and they are.
This epic smack down will live forever.
I am sick of their lies too so Joe is my hero.
aladawg
October 12th, 2012
3:10 am
All you moron liberals you are crazy as hell if you beleive biden won. That son of a bitch came off as the buffon that he is. All that smirk laughing and just being a stupid ass hole. Your damn obumer is going down. Check the polls tomorrow to see who won, it won’t be biden.
JetBuzz
October 12th, 2012
3:28 am
As a retired military officer, I was struck by VP Biden’s behavior. He was disrespectful of the debate process, he often appeared out of control with his gestures and expressions, he generally acted undignified and whacky, and he came across as a babbling buffoon mixing in facts, half-truths, and no-truth political spin.
That he’s today one step away from Commander in Chief is a chilling thought.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
6:04 am
Looks like the liveblogging here was fun, maybe I should’ve been here to paaahty as well, but…
anyway, one thing I haven’t seen from the comments worth mentioning–
I get the impression, most of the time that I see Joe Biden out in public, either stumping, or debating, or whatever–is that he’s enjoying this a great deal. And I think that’s a central part of his appeal; people like to watch performers who are, themselves, having a good time doing what they’re doing.
Ryan did a reasonable job holding his own, but I think Biden helped his side more, last night.
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
6:04 am
After watching old Joe last night and the total disrespect he showed to Ryan, it’s pretty easy to see why there are no bipartisan deals getting done. If he will behave as he did on national tv, can you imagine working with him off camera? Me neither.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
6:12 am
Good Friday morning all y’all…yeah, you too, cons…
http://cheezburger.com/6663801856
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
6:13 am
Heh, heh…
http://cheezburger.com/6663878912
Way to go Mr. Vice President
October 12th, 2012
6:14 am
Biden shook up the Etch a Sketch last night!! Biden won hands down. The spin was he was smiling and interrupting Ryan. He just kept Ryan from continuing his lies. Way to go Biden. This should move the needle more in the President’s direction. Two more to go!!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
6:18 am
I don’t care what side you are on…this is funny!
http://cheezburger.com/6659653120
The Joe Biden Workout
October 12th, 2012
6:19 am
Biden’s performance was aimed at one thing: painting the Romney and Ryan agenda as a flim-flam operation. He did it with style as much as substance. Looking directly at the camera, he said, “folks, follow your instincts,” in the middle of an argument about whether Romney’s tax plan added up. Before the debate, a Romney staffer had said one of the things that had worked well for the GOP nominee a week ago was that while voters may not have understood his policy ideas, he sounded like he understood them, which gave viewers confidence in the candidate. Biden was trying to make the same kind of transference. If he could convey exasperation and frustration with Ryan’s lack of specificity, the plans that didn’t add up, and the broader claims from the Republican team, perhaps he’d be able to make people doubt the entire Republican enterprise.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/10/vp_debate_joe_biden_tried_to_re_energize_democrats_with_his_attacks_digs.html
Energized the Democrat Base
October 12th, 2012
6:21 am
Biden won the debate, but it was a qualified victory. He energized Democrats who had been down in the dumps since the president’s supine performance, but he also energized Republicans who found him rude and dishonest. Swing voters might have been turned off, too. But it probably doesn’t matter since they’re going to vote for the top of the ticket. It was close in the post-debate polls of undecided voters. In a CBS poll, 50 percent thought Biden had won; only 31 percent thought the same of Ryan. In the CNN poll, 48 percent thought Ryan won. Only 44 percent thought Biden came out on top.
There’s an old line attributed to Bill Clinton: It’s hard for the other guy to talk when your fist is in his mouth. Biden was up to his elbow. That thrilled Democrats. Speaking of himself, Barack Obama said that he was “too polite” in the first debate. No one will say that of Joe Biden.
DownInAlbany
October 12th, 2012
6:38 am
I hate to beat a dead horse, but, did you see that the unemployment numbers that were being trumpeted here yesterday did not include California? How convenient!
DownInAlbany
October 12th, 2012
6:42 am
It’s hard for the other guy to talk when your fist is in his mouth. Biden was up to his elbow. That thrilled Democrats
I don’t think his antics played well with the swing votes. I think we see a continued swing to R/R in the next week…
Shawny
October 12th, 2012
6:46 am
Gads, that Biden is a pompous arse. Ryan should have knocked out those chicklets.
Energized the Democrat Base
October 12th, 2012
6:49 am
It has been said that Biden interrupted Ryan several times…but can it also be noted that Ryan got so nervous that he had to keep drinking water. At one time it looked as if the glass was empty and he was just going through the motions.
Brosephus™
October 12th, 2012
7:13 am
Looking at all this fluff about Biden is funny. I watched part of the last section of the debate. I find it hilarious that Ryan tried to paint this administration for a lack of leadership, but when he was asked specifically about what deductions he’d eliminate, his answer is that he would defer to Congress. Dude couldn’t answer the question even though he was asked for specifics several times.
It must really suck to have to back an empty ticket just to justify your hatred for Obama/Democrats.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
7:15 am
Weeks ago I commented that this debate would be like
Sheriff Andy schooling Eddie Haskell….
I was right.
Three cheers for Vice President Joe Biden.
Jay
October 12th, 2012
7:18 am
Somebody here is spamming under multiple IDs.
That person should stop.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
7:22 am
“Somebody here is spamming under multiple IDs.”
What? Mitt is here???
clem
October 12th, 2012
7:24 am
jetbuzz, thanks for service to country, but having a neocon influenced team of romney ryan is more dangersous than joe gjoing over the top because he perceives rr as habitual fibbers……joe exasperated with their inaccuracies and also because his boss got his clock cleaned by a flip flopper that makes john kerry look bedrock…
chaney, senor, bolton are chickenhawks
Thomas Heyward Jr
October 12th, 2012
7:25 am
Judge James Gray won the intelligent vote.
.
I can see now why the other two state-sponsored puppet clowns didn’t want to debate him.
.
lol
walt
October 12th, 2012
7:25 am
Perhaps when Joe retires from politics he can get a job at the U ofDelaware teaching a course in Pomposity
vince
October 12th, 2012
7:27 am
I am one of those undecided Independent voters.
Debates are not so much about the issues as they are the subliminal personality traits of the debaters. The VP is, as everyone expected, quite the buffoon, isn’t he? (not to mention rude)
Could anyone really see him in a presidential role? YIKES!
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:28 am
Has anyone brought up the contrasting styles vis a vis the closing statements?
Biden went for what seemed like an improvised, off-the-cuff, let’s sum all this up approach. It may have meandered a bit, so it wasn’t 100% effective, but it got the job done.
Ryan looked as though he were reading off a teleprompter. Obviously he wasn’t, but just as obviously, it was an incredibly canned response. It *was* a good one, mind you; it also got the job done.
Lord Help Us
October 12th, 2012
7:28 am
Is Robert Bjork really a Romney adviser?
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:31 am
So here’s my sporting-analogy take on the race so far.
Two weeks ago, Team Obama was going into the fourth quarter up by seven. (that’s not my personal take, that’s what the experts said, odds-wize.)
After the first Presidential debate, Obama had clearly thrown an interception, and I’d say at this point Biden succeeded in holding them to a field goal. Obama’s just up by four now, but still in the lead, and another field goal isn’t going to win it for the other side (but it won’t hurt, and they’ll still have time left to win.)
Obama’s got the ball back; we’ll see how this next possession goes next week, I guess.
GTJohn
October 12th, 2012
7:32 am
I sure hope Bork is a Romney advisor – he is one of the greatest Constitutional Scholars of our time. However, I would doubt that anyone on this blog would understand or even care about the Constitution as it conflicts with their desires for the give-me crowd.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:32 am
Lord Help Us, yes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-raskin/robert-bork-mitt-romneys_b_1846740.html
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:34 am
Bork is a counsel. Not Bjork…. far as I know.
Although anything’s possible I guess.
TaxPayer
October 12th, 2012
7:34 am
Biden kept calling out Lyin’ Ryan for lyin’. Good job, Biden.
Frederick Douglass
October 12th, 2012
7:34 am
Normal @ 7:22 am
Now you’ve done it; because of your comments I just spit coffee in my wife’s face!
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:36 am
Most disturbing thing I saw last night, and this is hard to say, but we need to keep Obama healthy and safe until Romney is sworn in……..Geez, Biden is just an old fool who has been in Washington way to long and couldn’t find reality with Daniel Boone helping him.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
7:36 am
For all the tough, manly man talk….seems Congressman Ryan got his
fee-fees hurt.
I heard yesterday that as part of the debate negotiations the Ryan camp
required that he be referred to as “Mr.” Ryan not “Congressman” Ryan.
What is Congressman Ryan ashamed of?
alex
October 12th, 2012
7:36 am
A Demcocrat is happier today, a swing voter is well rested because they got tired of the histrionics, a republican is relieved. Biden has stemmed the the bleed. A young congressman from wisconsin has revealed the next 4 weeks tatics and D. Wasserman can no longer claim being the center of the democratic world-we are all delighted with that!
I’m against anyone clem and his brilliant narrative is for…..
Citizen of the World
October 12th, 2012
7:37 am
I can totally see Joe Biden in the presidential role. For one thing, he knows how to answer a question instead of just recite talking points.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:38 am
I sure hope Bork is a Romney advisor
I doubt Robert Bork polls above Hitler in favorability with the general public.
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:39 am
I wonder if the effect of Biden’s crazy pills have worn off; what a turn off for anyone watching on TV, radio may be different….
I have never seen someone so rude, arrogant and openly hostile in an presidential or vice-presidential debate. It is one think to be confident and assertive but Biden’s visuals were not a plus for the democrats. That said, in the bigger picture it probably does not matter…
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
7:39 am
Can someone explain to me why Ryan wants to throw more U.S. soldiers into harms way rather than let the U.S. trained Afghan fighters do the job?
Eric
October 12th, 2012
7:40 am
LMAO.
Now I see how Ol’ Joe got the VP job.
Barry had to search long and hard to find someone not as “bright” as him.
Go have another shot and go to bed, Joe.
Rightwing Troll
October 12th, 2012
7:40 am
It was Biden by a nose… I still can’t bring myself to dislike Ryan… I think I might actually have a man crush on him…
Anyway to all you whining wingnut pu$$ies moaning about Joe being assertive and leaning forward, he was no more so than Money Boo Boo was last week, you had no issue with it then… at least in this fashion you tards are consistent, you had no issues with W’s runaway spending and tanking the economy, but you scream like a stuck pig over the bills due that Obama has to pay…
Fred ™
October 12th, 2012
7:41 am
Hmmmmmm under moderation.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
7:42 am
Granny – “What is Congressman Ryan ashamed of?”
Probabaly that 10% Congressional approval rating. My guess is that he wanted to be sure that no one remembered that he is actually part of Congress.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:42 am
I don’t know how things could get worse….but with Joe in charge, they could……But I think Joe is being a good soldier. I’m sure at night in Bed, he tells his wife, Boy this Kenyan has screwed things up.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:43 am
I can totally see Joe Biden in the presidential role.
I was about the farthest thing from a Biden fan prior to the 2008 primary races. He had a rep for being in the pockets of sleazy credit card companies.
But he won me over (particularly with his “noun, verb & 9/11″ gag[1]), and I’m glad he’s on Obama’s team. Furthermore, if the unthinkable were to happen, I have every confidence that he’d be a competent caretaker as President (although I’m not sure he’d want to run in 2016).
—
1. what was great about his swipe at Rudy, was that it made it socially acceptable, finally, after far too many years, to mock people who were continuing to exploit 9/11 for their own political gain. Better six years too late than never, I always say.
b-troll
October 12th, 2012
7:44 am
oh come on now.
Joe is likable enough…..
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82313.html?hp=t3_3
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:44 am
Butch….Same reason Obama has announced a withdrawal date and letting our brave men and women sit over there for months and be murdered one by one.
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:45 am
Troll…if you found Biden’s demeanor to be remotely similar to Romney from the prior debate then you are way off base…not even close, but then again the liberals on this blog are not the objective, it is the independents. For them, I would be very interested to see their reaction as Biden was a complete turn off visually….
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
7:47 am
“I can totally see Joe Biden in the presidential role.”
Me too.
Congressman Ryan. Not so much.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:47 am
I have never seen someone so rude, arrogant and openly hostile in an presidential or vice-presidential debate.
Really? it’s kind of hard to beat Cheney leading with an outright lie about never having met John Edwards prior to the debate. That’s pretty damn rude, in my book anyway.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
7:47 am
Frederick Douglass
October 12th, 2012
7:34 am
Sorry…
Mick
October 12th, 2012
7:47 am
There always was a withdrawal date for afghanistan, unless one thinks we can stay there for perpetuity…
TaxPayer
October 12th, 2012
7:47 am
BORK! Or Borg.
The Secretary of Labor had decided that the Act’s requirement that employers must provide workers “employment and a place of employment which are free from recognized hazards” meant that American Cynamid had to “fix the workplace” through industrial clean-up rather than “fix the employees” by sterilizing or removing all women workers of child-bearing age. Bork strongly disagreed. He wrote an opinion for his colleagues apparently endorsing the view that other clean-up measures were not necessary or possible and that the sterilization policy was, in any event, a “realistic and clearly lawful” way to prevent harm to the women’s fetuses.
That sounds like the sort of scum Romney would want on his side.
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
7:48 am
Why wasn’t Ryan wearing his baseball hat backwards for the debates. It would have went well with the rest of his stupid looks and lies. What a punk.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
7:48 am
I understand the polling shows Vice President Biden won the independents
by quite a healthy margin.
b-troll
October 12th, 2012
7:48 am
“I can totally see Joe Biden in the presidential role. ”
I can’t. He laughs about everything, including people getting killed in Syria. Serious topics require a serious response.
I won’t vouch for the quality of any of Ryan’s answers. Joe was so cavalier with topics of huge importance. It’s hard for me to take him seriously when he doesn’t ever take himself seriously.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
7:48 am
I’m a liberal – “Same reason Obama has announced a withdrawal date and letting our brave men and women sit over there for months and be murdered one by one.”
So because Obamas policies in Afghanistan may not be the best, Ryan should just throw more U.S. bodies on the fire? Nice of you to promote using our soldiers as kindling.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
7:49 am
“I can totally see Joe Biden in the presidential role.”
Me too, in fact, if Ryan was President there would be no America any more.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
7:49 am
I have never seen someone so rude, arrogant and openly hostile, blah, blah, blah…
Don’t know if Joltin’ Joe was going rogue or if this was by design, but either way it is brilliant.
The Dems have played patsies to the GOP thugs for way too long.
Start b*tch slapping a few more Eddie Munsters around and show that you are serious about giving the cretins some of their own medicine.
And watching our crybabies cons turn UP the waterworks is just bonus…
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:49 am
Luntz had the independents on last night. They thought of substance it was basically a draw, but most thought Joe wasted a good opportunity being a rude jerk….But, He had a assignment, to cover his boss for a piss poor performance and change the conversation in the media, and to that, he did his job.
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:49 am
Stands…I do not expect you to see it that way, again it is the independents that will dictate who wins, not the base on either side
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
7:50 am
Same reason Obama has announced a withdrawal date
this bullsh-t again?
Do I have to bring up how those wimpy, wishy-washy, hatin’-on-their-troops ISRAELIs announced a withdrawal date a year in advance, when they decided to leave Lebanon in 2000? (They actually wound up leaving earlier than their announced date, turns out.)
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:51 am
Jammie, glad you enjoyed Biden making a fool of himself, to bad it will backfire with independents….
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:51 am
No Butch…..You are over thinking with your starbucks and Rolling Stone Mag this morning. Get them the F____out of there NOW…….
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
7:52 am
1st place – Biden
2nd place – Raddatz
3rd – Ryan
Lord Help Us
October 12th, 2012
7:52 am
Ryan wants more US soldiers in the most dangerous parts of Afghanistan?
Biden’s reply that Afghan’s are taking their place and asking Ryan if he would rather have US soldiers instead was, IMO, a revealing part of the debate.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 12th, 2012
7:53 am
Jam,
This GOP complaining about Joe makes me remember a bully I once knew. Pushed just a little too far, I decided to take my chances and I decked him. He sat on the ground, looked up at me and said, I kid you not, “What’d you do that for?” That’s the GOP…they can dish it but they can’t take it.
b-troll
October 12th, 2012
7:53 am
“So because Obamas policies in Afghanistan may not be the best, Ryan should just throw more U.S. bodies on the fire? Nice of you to promote using our soldiers as kindling.”
Butch, you can do better…..
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:54 am
Have a good day everyone and a better weekend, off to make a buck..
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
7:55 am
I’m a liberal – “You are over thinking with your starbucks and Rolling Stone Mag this morning. Get them the F____out of there NOW…….”
Change that to Kona and the WSJ and you’re half way there. As to the pulling the troops out now, why do you advocate cutting ties with our allied forces. You remember the allies, they were the ones who Bush to F___ Off right before we marched into Iraq. Remember how well that turned out for us?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
7:55 am
Lord help us…..You missed Ryans entire point. If you are going to expose OUR men and women to battle, give them the numbers and tools they need…..and in case you have been stoned lately, Our Men and Women are being murdered almost daily BY AFGANS in uniform.
alex
October 12th, 2012
7:56 am
@ granny, after Willie B. passed, you now think Biden is good with independents, PRICELESS!!
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
7:56 am
b-troll – “Butch, you can do better…..”
Unfortunately, I’m only as good the material I have to work with.
b-troll
October 12th, 2012
7:59 am
hhhoooooheeehahhahaaaaahoooohaaaaa
#theLaughingBiden
he sounded like a liberal Bookman blogger
Ken
October 12th, 2012
7:59 am
This is what counts ; FLORIDA: R 51% 0 44%…
b-troll
October 12th, 2012
8:00 am
“Unfortunately, I’m only as good the material I have to work with.”
Well then, get some new material!
TaxPayer
October 12th, 2012
8:00 am
Paul Ryan should enlist and lead by example.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
8:00 am
9:34 Medicare and Social Security. I think Joe just hit a home run on Medicare with seniors, which is his target audience on this topic.
Home run, surely you jest… He sounded like a USED car salesman. I mean, I apologize for the cut on used car salesman, but Biden was similar to those oil snake salesman that would say anything and everything just to push his product. I’m not surprised that you give Biden the edge on this debate, it only validates your ignorance… When Biden looked at the audience and questioned the seniors about who would they trust, I almost fell out of my chair. If it weren’t so sad it would be funny!
I’m not sure we got much out of this debate other than the fact that Obama/Biden have NO successful record to run on. I am an independent voter who is probably going to vote for Romney. Obama has had his chance, and he failed.
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:00 am
Joe made a good start last night in exposing the LIES that the Romney/Ryan ticket are spewing out every day — good start, but we have more push-back to do until November!
Moving FORWARD with Obama/Biden in 2012!
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
8:01 am
Ken – “This is what counts ; FLORIDA: R 51% 0 44%…”
That should get Romney to about 235 Electoral votes. He better start hammering VA and OH.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:01 am
By the way, you guys get to play the “I didn’t like his reactions to the stupid crap he was hearing!” card just once, and it done got played already.
TaxPayer
October 12th, 2012
8:01 am
The cons blogging here think they’re independents.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:02 am
I know there is a lot of wet underwear on here this morning, but Joe made you happy and his boss, But he didn’t do himself any favors with undecideds. Typical, ” We know what the hell we’re doing attitude”…..problem is the score card for the American people who look at things like REAL RESULTS, it ain’t good.
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:02 am
Woo-hoo — 4 more for 44!
kayaker 71
October 12th, 2012
8:02 am
I’d call it a draw. Joe was his same old bullying self while Ryan was trying to state his positions without being interrupted. Joe’s style might appeal to some but not to me. That smirk on his face was that of a rude person trying to dominate a conversation. Biden was very effective, however, in appealing to older voters who are afraid of losing some of their benefits. All in all, both were effective in their own ways although style points have to go to Ryan.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
8:02 am
Get Real
October 12th, 2012
7:51 am
Jammie, glad you enjoyed Biden making a fool of himself, to bad it will backfire with independents….
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Ah…..Nope
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57531059/poll-biden-takes-debate-over-ryan-uncommitted-voters-say/
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:02 am
Normal, I say keep on dishing it!
Keeping the war-loving-from-afar cowards, Bush/Cheney chickenhawks and fake support the troops types from getting their invasion-oriented stooge in the White House is critical.
These d*psticks can’t play a decent game of Stratego much less run effetively the United States military…
Ask Osama bin Laden…
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
8:03 am
Lord Help Us
October 12th, 2012
7:52 am
Ryan wants more US soldiers in the most dangerous parts of Afghanistan?
++
If Ryan wants more US soldiers. then I suggest he enlist.
Mick
October 12th, 2012
8:03 am
I wouldn’t exactly go to the bank with that florida poll number, a shift that big makes no sense…
Karl Childers
October 12th, 2012
8:03 am
It’s very sad when a Vice-President who acknowledges that his administration has “crushed” the middle class over the last four years can only smile and laugh at the resulting carnage.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
8:04 am
@Im a liberal
There are not many rational thinkers on this blog. Good luck explaining what Ryan meant to these morons. The point about the withdrawal was crystal clear to anybody with a brain…
Lord Help Us
October 12th, 2012
8:04 am
‘and in case you have been stoned lately, Our Men and Women are being murdered almost daily BY AFGANS in uniform.’
So, more of them over there will lead to less of our soldiers getting killed? Have you enlisted?
Lord Help Us
October 12th, 2012
8:05 am
‘The point about the withdrawal was crystal clear to anybody with a brain…’
Yes, we should turn this over the the Afghans and get out.
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:05 am
Don’t y’all love when the Veep confronted little Paul about his sending those letters to the White House asking for stimulus $$$ for Wisconsin??? And his letters also stated how the funds would create jobs for his state???
BWAAAAAA!
TaxPayer
October 12th, 2012
8:05 am
The Fox News cons came across as a bunch of cranky old men, as usual.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:06 am
The cons blogging here think they’re independents.
Taxpayer, the one that really cracks me up is that rube with that word in his name who is such an embarrassment to the US Air Force.
The guy is about as moderate/independent as your average North Korean head of state!
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
8:06 am
Hmmmmmmmm – “The point about the withdrawal was crystal clear to anybody with a brain…”
Well then perhaps you’ll enlighten all of us with your wisdom. Keeping in mind that Ryan said several times that both he and Romney support the 2014 exit date. Go on, I’m sure everyone is waiting to be dazzeled with your brilliance.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:06 am
How many wars do you want me to fight in to give you the right to spew here?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:08 am
Then why watch taxpayer. No BSNBC at you condo
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
8:09 am
I’m a liberal – “How many wars do you want me to fight in to give you the right to spew here?”
I’m sure you will be informed of the length of your tour and what duty station you will be assigned to by your commanding officer. Why would you think that a blogger would have such authority?
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:09 am
And American women loved hearing little Paul state how “elected officials” should be the ones who decide whether abortion should be safe and legal — wow.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:11 am
The war I fought in…… I was TOLD to go……These brave young men and women today are hero’s and deserve the full support of our commander in Chief…….Unlike our poor Ambassador got.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:13 am
I guess I should point out the obvious, that Martha Raddatz is continuing a shameful tradition of subjecting candidates to exactly the sort of “religious test” deemed a no-no by our Constitution.
(and yes, I know that asking pointed questions on national TV about the candidates’ respective religious views isn’t quite in violation of the Firstie, but it certainly violates its spirit.)
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:15 am
Biden told the country last night that “they” didn’t know that extra security had been requested by our Ambassador ….guess not,,,,,He was probably home in “time out” and his boss was on his talk show tour. We know he doesn’t attend NSA meetings.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
8:15 am
@Jamvet
I am independent. My voting record will prove that I have voted for both sides…
@Butch
You don’t leave a job unfinished, and you definitely don’t leave the troops that are there, at RISK… I mean, would you like a picture.. It’s really very simple!
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
8:15 am
Any man, politician or otherwise, who claims to care about women and their rights, and who refuses to acknowledge that a woman should have the right to decisions effecting her own body, and therefore, her destiny, is only being paternalistic toward women and that is unacceptable, and that means that he neither understands women’s rights nor does he genuinely care about women.
kayaker 71
October 12th, 2012
8:17 am
Ryan lost most of the pro choice crowd, no doubt. One of the most telling points brought up was the possible selection of two Supreme Court justices, something that has not been mentioned much. The court will certainly take on a decided liberal feel if Bozo is re-elected.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:18 am
Mary E………. Works for you with the big A word…….When you are 80 and need a hip replacement and an old crusty white man tells me it ain’t in the budget, get back to me about YOUR BODY……
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:19 am
[Ryan] neither understands women’s rights nor does he genuinely care about women.
…but we knew that already.
And I did enjoy how he essentially ceded the “How can a good Catholic support abortion rights” argument to Biden when he acknowledged that while he personally thinks rape victims should be forced to bear their attackers’ babies, he supports the legal right of such women to terminate.
I’m sure he didn’t *want* to do that, but he had to.
Heh heh.
ideasbm
October 12th, 2012
8:19 am
For all you liberal ARSES on here. Biden is a bumbling, stumbling fool. Anyonw who thinks otherwise is also a fool. Who in his right mind would want this guy as a heartbeat away from being president. WhOOAA….what a mess we would be in. He is rude, crude, and his laughing and interrupting proved it. As we all know when someone laughs, they know they have been caught either in a lie of know they are just do not know how to answer or rebut on the subject. Heaven help us if he is in this office again.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:19 am
s/b tells YOU it ain’t in the budget
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:21 am
Hmmm, hard to respond to a shape shifter, because I have no idea who you are. Today.
But what the heck.
Would you give some examples of this even handed voting record?
And cons, quit whining.
The Romney debate juggernaut (LOL) took a hit last night.
Big Mo comes and goes.
Get over it and realize in the free market place of ideas, your guys and their amazing lack of specifics are in trouble. BIG time Electoral College trouble.That’s it, that’s all…
straitroad
October 12th, 2012
8:22 am
This debate went about as expected. Biden probably did a better job to those who only listened to the debate. The split screen, however, was not kind to Biden. If Ryan conducted himself as Biden did, I would think he came across as an immature jackass. I might not want to admit to it but I would certainly be thinking it.
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
8:24 am
I’m a Liberal and believe everthing, 8:18 am
Your chosen name on this blog tells me all I need to know about your sensibility to understand any issue in this political dichotomy in our nation, with depth. You have zero credibility with any thinking, conscious person.
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:24 am
We INDEPENDENTS were definitely turned off by Joe “Uncle Festor” Biden’s unbalanced and seemingly drug induced “performance. And while he might have provided a little “red meat” for the USEFUL IDIOTS in the Peanut Gallery, Joe Biden looked unfit for Office; ANGRY and Confused. What a meltdown.
Ryan on the other hand presented us, we INDEPENDENTS, with an example of SOBER and RESPONSIBLE Leadership well qualified to pull our country out of the dismal that OBAMA has put us in.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
8:26 am
Looked to me like Eddie Munster versus a soon to be retired used car salesman. I had to turn it off after an hour or so…horrific television. At least Ryan acted more “presidential” that the childish smiling (how long do you suppose he soaks those pearly whites every night?) demeanor of Biden. Both had softballs tossed there way and left them alone..Biden suggesting we leave Afghanistan before job is done is idiotic…specially considering the country is already being taken over by Taliban again…maybe we should let them have it. Ryan looked like an actuary…not good on that stage..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-the-vice-presidential-debate/2012/10/12/e900404a-13d0-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_blog.html
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
8:26 am
Jay:
I will admit Biden did much better than I thought he would. He of course didn’t win the debate but I would say he didn’t lose bad. Ryan was much more likable because of all the hee hawing, interupting and smiling like a mule eatin briars. The alarming thing is that he did much much better than Obama. Not only in the debate but at the convention. Voters will certainly take notice that the guy at the top of the ticket is inept and clueless….
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
8:26 am
so many hurt fee fees
it almost tickles.
Jm
October 12th, 2012
8:27 am
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS!
(please)
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:28 am
Mary…..One gals opinion I guess. PS….Are you related to the Cutter woman on the Obama staff?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
8:29 am
Mary Elizabeth
Be nice now…this is the best place to pick fights with liberals..although it is becoming more fun to pick fights with conservatives…it’s all absurd…we are being played and we are jumping right into the game with gusto and passion..
Peadawg
October 12th, 2012
8:29 am
Both of their noses grew about 2 feet last night. But I’ll say Ryan won just b/c Biden acted like some arrogant punk bully.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 12th, 2012
8:30 am
Looks like most of the attacks of the conned are still about hair plugs, teeth, laughing at the absurdity of some of his opponents claims…. on the issues, they just run away.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:30 am
Only thing Biden was missing was loose tie and a bottle of Gin next to him
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:31 am
The economic disaster in 2007 brought on by the Cons’ policies during the Bush regime was a time for all elected officials to get on board with solving that crisis and to stop the bleeding… but instead, what we got was “our number one priority is to make sure that Obama is a one-term president.”
Shame on you Cons for trying to destroy America for the past 4 years!
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:31 am
You have zero credibility with any thinking, conscious person.
But M.E.–what about his FABULOUS hip replacement=abortion argument?
I mean, that works on so many levels!
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:32 am
CNN POLL: RYAN 48% Biden 44%…
Enough Said!
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:33 am
some arrogant punk bully
Dude. That’s in the Veep job description.
You don’t hire a guy to play nice. You hire a “bad cop,” so that you look classy by comparison.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 12th, 2012
8:33 am
CBS News did a poll of undecided voters who thought Biden won by a fairly large margin, but they also reached an even more interesting conclusion: whereas before the debate, these voters thought Ryan was better prepared to serve as an effective president, after the debate, the results flipped in Biden’s favor
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:33 am
CNN POLL:
Over-50 white Southrens again?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:33 am
All Americans say under 40 looking at those two last night and ask themselves….” who would you leave your kids with of the two for the evening”…….LOL
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
8:33 am
Goldie:
Can you please elaborate on what policies?
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:34 am
Joe Bidens Blustery Gaffs land Obama administration in “Hot Water”!
Biden contradicts State Department on Benghazi security…
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/11/biden_contradicts_state_department_on_benghazi_security
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 12th, 2012
8:35 am
WE Independents…..Favor Biden by a fairly large margin
tee hee hee
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:36 am
“If Ryan conducted himself as Biden did, I would think he came across as an immature jackass.”
No, Paul Ryan did come across exactly like an immature jackass — he stepped up on that stage and got pummelled by the Veep who showed who really has the experience to lead America. Ryan has memorized his talking points, as practiced, but that was all we got out of him last night!
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
8:36 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!:
I think I will go with the CNN poll… Its obviously much better….
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:36 am
USMC…… don’t screw these people up with facts….good Gawd Man
Aquagirl
October 12th, 2012
8:37 am
But M.E.–what about his FABULOUS hip replacement=abortion argument?
Oh, man, I’ve gotta spend a few minutes looking for that foray into idiocy. That sounds like a babble for the ages.
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:37 am
BENGHAZI-GATE not going away as OBAMA administration digs deeper hole…
Cutter: Romney, Ryan ‘entire reason’ Libya attack is political issue
http://thehill.com/video/campaign/261539-cutter-libya-attacks-have-become-of-political-issue-because-of-romney-and-ryan
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
8:37 am
I am not playing any game, Stevie Ray, with anyone.
I am speaking out for women’s rights throughout the nation and globe for those women who gained women’s rights (including the right to vote) before me, and for those young women who will come after me, and who must face people with sensibilities as dull as that of the bully who believe that women will stand for paternalism and second class citizenship in the 21st century. Anyone who does not perceive the importance of this issue is in denial.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 12th, 2012
8:37 am
I’m a Liberal: who would you leave your kids with of the two for the evening”
That’s the typical lowlife scummy childish attacks that the conned are known for. When you have lost all else and you cannot use your brain to come up with sensible commentary, impugn character by [wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean] heinous undertones. What a worthless post.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:38 am
Unsurprisingly Nate goes with a baseball metaphor.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/12/in-polls-biden-gets-a-hold/
(Hard to argue that one, actually.)
My best guess: perhaps Mr. Biden can be credited with what in baseball statistics would be termed a “hold”: something a bit shy of either a win or a save and which will probably seem perfunctory with the passage of time, but which might have done his team a bit of good.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:38 am
If this were the Mob, Joe would be the guy that drove the Limo and made the pasta, just say’n
sam
October 12th, 2012
8:39 am
the thing about Ryan is that he’s a policy/numbers geek not a natural politician. i think that comes accross in campaign speeches and debates like this.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:39 am
Joseph, flip-flopping on your debate “analysis” from last night?
Humorous AND apropos!
Mick
October 12th, 2012
8:39 am
All americans under the age of 55 look at those two last night and say: Which party is going to screw me on social security and medicare when I’m 64?
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
8:39 am
I think maybe that ridiculous CBS poll is a misprint…..
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/11/CNBC-Poll-Ryan-Crushes-Biden-56-36
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:40 am
Oh, man, I’ve gotta spend a few minutes looking for that foray into idiocy.
It’s great. Apparently “Ima Lib” believes that individual states are vying to ban the hip-replacement procedures outright, or perhaps force elderly men to have painful rectal probes as a prerequisite for hip-replacement surgery, because hip-replacement surgery makes baby Jesus cry.
It’s probably the stupidest antichoice argument I’ve seen made here, and I’ve seen some freakin’ doozies in the past.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 12th, 2012
8:40 am
What skin tone will Romney choose for Tuesday? I’m thinking lily white.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:41 am
Our ex-marine and facts?
HUGE LOL!
That guy is about as independent as Kim Il-sung…
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:41 am
Which party is going to screw me on social security and medicare when I’m 64?
Will you still screw me
Will you eschew me
When I’m sixty-four…
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 12th, 2012
8:41 am
Hmmmmm – “You don’t leave a job unfinished”
And what does “finished” look like? By the way, how are you planning to pay for this limitless excursion without sufficient revenue?
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
Mary Elizabeth, is your life really so empty that you sit home 24/7/365 fretting over your ability to get abortions on demand? Really???? If that issue is that important to you, seek some professional help, sweetie, cause you need some in a bad way.
Rome is burning and Mary Elizabeth is worried about being able to legally kill her children…
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
It was very evident to us, INDEPENDENTS, that Joe Biden is UNSTABLE and UNFIT for the office of Vice President!
Matti
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
Mary Elizabeth,
Thank you for the breakdown on women’s rights. Again. That some still don’t get it is evidence of evolution, and how remnants of the troglodyte species still roam among us on their way to extinction and irrelevance.
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
RB, don’t you have some slave laborers that need whipping?
Mick
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
usmc
There is no benghazi gate because an investigation is being conducted. At least wait until a report is issued before there is a “coverup” or lack of one…
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:42 am
Did anyone here already mention how much Ryan looks just like Eddie Munster? LOL!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
8:43 am
Keep,
I’m not running away..I did comment on Bidens teeth…he bared them so often it was blinding…Ryan closely resembles Eddie Munster…Does Biden really have plugs?
Anyhow, I think we all lost here…we learned nothing new and the positions of each simply reflect the differences that get discussed here ad nausea..They both evaded most of the questions with that dingbat moderator..she held neither to the questions at hand…
Bidens performance on Afghanistan and Libya were consistent with BO”s bungled foreign policy..Bidens continued tired reference to the unfortunately death of his wife several decades ago is wearing thin..
Ryan who did get some good ziggers in, was predictable on and weak on several of the issues and said not a single thing outside of tired talking points..
Neither won but more importantly didn’t screw up..
stands for decibels
October 12th, 2012
8:43 am
Seriously, RB, do you know how much of a loser this issue is for your side?
Americans overwhelmingly support Roe v. Wade.
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
8:44 am
Goldie, could you be specific on which bush policies caused the financial collapse?
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
8:45 am
RB,
I agree with you..Rome is definitely burning..especially in the ME..we have a pile of evidence confirming BO’s failure of foreign policy..However, gotta call you out on your not well thougth out comment on abortion. Why does that matter to you?
Paul
October 12th, 2012
8:46 am
RB from Gwinnett
I’ve tossed aside about four responses to your 8:42. It became easier when I considered the source.
So tell us, while we await the new thread, RB, how do you define a ‘child’?
Robert
October 12th, 2012
8:46 am
This debate was about leadership. Who would you want to lead the USA if something happen to the President? Vice President Biden clearly showed he had more experience in politics and showed better judgement. As I watched this debate I focused my attention on Mr. Ryan. What is he? He is a young man (40’s) , who has no friends who are different from him (minorities, etc.), and has extreme points of views (tea party, etc.). Mr. Ryan showed he lacked communication skills (listening, talking, writing, body language, etc.) required for leadship. Mr. Ryan is too young to think and act like a racist bigot. If Mr. Ryan was your child or mine’s he would be labeled as “spoiled” to death and will do anything to prove his points of views regardless of the consequences of his actions. He is not fit for leadership.
I think the GOP found a way to get rid of all the right wing extremist who helped hold the American People hostage over the past 4 years when Mr. Romney choose Mr. Ryan as his running mate. The GOP can know create a winning strategy to keep as many seats as they can in both the House and Senate as well as recruit moderate GOP candidates and try to re-capture the White House in 2016. Hopefully the GOP can restore civility to our political process. We are one nation not divided by race and income status.
The American People
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:47 am
American women can make up their own minds about who has control over their bodies — and it ain’t no stinkin’ “elected officials”!
And as Our President has stated: “rape is rape”, so Paul Ryan with his anti-choice legislation is a real dud when it comes to leading America forward into the 21st century!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 12th, 2012
8:48 am
Bidens continued tired reference to the unfortunately death of his wife several decades ago is wearing thin
Stevie, I think that is another cheap shot at Biden myself. I note you did not say the same about Ryan’s reference to his father.
Jm
October 12th, 2012
8:50 am
Joe the Biden
Nuff said.
Aquagirl
October 12th, 2012
8:51 am
It’s probably the stupidest antichoice argument I’ve seen made here, and I’ve seen some freakin’ doozies in the past.
It was a LOL for sure. “I can’t get a new hip on demand, and it’s because of your sinnin’ ladyparts!!!1111!!!”
I think Joe unhinged a few of our cons.
Paul
October 12th, 2012
8:51 am
Goldie
Please excuse the interruption/
RB from Gwinnett
“Goldie, could you be specific on which bush policies caused the financial collapse?”
Some of us are getting concerned about you. You hear something, you read something, it happens a couple of times, yet…. every day is a brand new day.
Surely, with your reputation for seeking out facts, understanding cause, your aversion to rank political views devoid of attachment to reality, you do remember seeing, reading, discussing, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and
Economic Crisis in the United States, don’t you?
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/GPO-FCIC/pdf/GPO-FCIC.pdf
Or is today another new day?
Perhaps you’d like to start off a bit more slowly, as in answering the 8:46?
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
8:51 am
RB from Gwinnett, 8:42
Your post tells everyone who reads this blog exactly what kind of person you are and you are a supporter of the rightwing agenda, as I have read in the past. You are not a good model for your cause. And why do I say that?
You feel so threatened by my opinions that you must call me “sweetie,” while mentioning “professional help” yet you know nothing about me. My life is quite full and rewarding. Your way of seeing others, especially women, is exactly the reason that I write in order to expose the callousness and inherent cowardness of people with your perceptions. I could care less about myself regarding abortions. I am 70 years old this week and am hardly am concerned with the issue of abortion, personally.
I speak out for my own daughter, her yet unborn daughters, all women, and against those who see with your bullying and condescending eyes.
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:51 am
Crazy Joe Biden drove the Good Ship Obama over the cliff last night.
Watch Independents and Swing State Voters CONTINUE to show support for Team Romney/Ryan.
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
8:52 am
Paul, I believe life begins at conception. You?
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:52 am
Paul Ryan is a BIG part of the problems created during the Bush regime when he voted over and over again to bankrupt this country, with their unpaid for wars and extreme tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans during a time of war! Paul Ryan is a disaster when it comes to talking about how he knows how to solve our economic problems! And he’s a disaster when it comes to talking about women’s issues!
Face it, Cons — Paul Ryan is just what your Party does NOT need right now!
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:52 am
Goldie, could you be specific on which bush policies caused the financial collapse?
The guy who promised in his 2000 campaign that he was going to “clean up Wall Street”?
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:53 am
Florida poll: Romney 51, Obama 44
http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/national/timesbay-news-9herald-exclusive-florida-poll-romney-51-obama-44/1255882
Thomas
October 12th, 2012
8:54 am
10:28 Ryan has held his own; he did a good job with what he was given. But this is a Biden victory. It’s not a slam dunk; it won’t alter the race much. But Biden’s conviction carried the day
uh thanks cheerleader Jay- too bad the CNN poll shows little young guy won- does anyone really take you serious?
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 12th, 2012
8:54 am
So, does Ryan now have enough credits to earn his “Debate” merit badge? He did good for being up late on a school night.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:55 am
…a pile of evidence confirming BO’s failure of foreign policy.
Riiiiight.
Ask Osama bin Laden. He’ll agree.
Oh, wait!
Paul
October 12th, 2012
8:56 am
RB from Gwinnett
Just to clarify, you believe that at the moment of conception what exists is a child, no different in legal status from a ten-year-old?
Just want to make sure I understand your position before going further.
USMC
October 12th, 2012
8:56 am
More Bad news for the Obama Campaign…
Biden blames intelligence community for changing story about Libya attack…
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/261607-biden-blames-intelligence-community-for-changing-libya-story
–Obama Administration can’t seem to get story straight… Confusion and Cover up…
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
8:56 am
when did people become such wooses and bullying became the new buzz word?
Mick
October 12th, 2012
8:56 am
usmc
Gomer the lost lesser is really on a roll…your paris island flashbacks have taken a toll on reality..snap out of it man…ryan is a far right winger who does not possess the mittsiah’s ability to tack left and be all things to all people – they need a divorce…
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
8:57 am
OK, gotta go make money!
Thank gawd, the Bush Depression is behind us.
And keep on rolling, you Obama Recovery!
Later, taters…
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
8:57 am
Stevie ray, it matters to me because somebody has to stand up for children who have no voice of their own. I really couldn’t care less what Mary Elizabeth does to her own body, but that’s not now and never has been what the issue is about. The issue is about her right to kill a child.
Jm
October 12th, 2012
8:57 am
Jay mustve needed to sleep in after the debate
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
8:58 am
The question is not “when does life begin?”, but are you proposing that all Americans bow down to your religious beliefs regarding that question? REALLY???
You Cons are truly clueless about where America stands on personal freedom from YOUR religious beliefs!
independent thinker
October 12th, 2012
8:58 am
Most enlightening was the tax plan debate. Obama’s plan is clear and makes sense and is based on clinton tax rates for the rich when the economy was booming. Romney’s plan became a bigger train wreck after last night. Ryan did not dispute the 5 trillion dollar cut and the huge increase in defense spending the way Romney did.WhenRyan was repeatedly asked to name the tax deductions that would offset that decrease in revenue Ryan just came up with the usual nonsense about “trust me” even if the math does not work. I do not remember Sara Palin talking herself into a corner that bad on substantive issues and plans of her team.
Sorry about Joe’s mannerism but when you are dealing with bold face liars and hypocrites it is exasperrating.Loved the look on Ryan’s face when he was confronted on letters he wrote for the stimulus money.
Yeah lyin Ryan is full of a bunch of stuff but sure is smooth and slick when spewing it out.If you are one of the sheep I’m sure you loved his demeanor even if there was no substance.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
8:58 am
Luv to spend me some time with mary in the car for 10 hours on a trip. I know I would arrive a better man for it.
nude dude
October 12th, 2012
8:59 am
Victory for Biden ??? Are you kidding me ? When radical islam plans to eliminate the POTUS in order to have smiling Joe succeed him (because they know he’s a blithering idiot), what does that say about your #2 man ????
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
8:59 am
JamVet:
Ryan won… Same thing I said last night…. Now change your diaper and step back in to reality….
USMC
October 12th, 2012
9:00 am
“Gomer the lost lesser is really on a roll…your paris island flashbacks have taken a toll on reality..snap out of it man…ryan is a far right winger who does not possess the mittsiah’s ability to tack left and be all things to all people – they need a divorce…”–Mickey Mouse
Morning Mick, I didn’t know Florida had already legalized Marijuana…
You know isn’t healthy to Wake N’ Bake…
Jm
October 12th, 2012
9:00 am
“Some of us are getting concerned about you.”
Lame
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
9:00 am
Its ME, 8:56 am
“when did people become such wooses and bullying became the new buzz word?”
=======================================
If you think that persons who deliberately try to demean others is not bullying and that speaking against that inherent injustice is being “wooses,” then you need to examine your own sensibilites with more depth.
Peter
October 12th, 2012
9:00 am
Welcome to more Voodoo Economics via Romney and Ryan……… 14% is fine with Romney ….gosh I would love to have that tax rate.
The plan is to grow the economy….. via talk I guess….. ” working together “……Gee when has that happened in the last 4 years ?
Once Obama got his heath care package in place…… our “Hero” last president’s election loser vowed to not work with the Democrat’s again !
Yup Republican’s want the power, but don’t care about American’s.it is all about getting the black guy out of the White House.not the American people !
Voodoo Economics………. what is the Plan……. there is No plan….. just “we will work with the other side”…… kind of like Deficits don’t matter, and Mission Accomplished. ALL TALK !
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
9:00 am
I’m wondering if the MSM will be diligent in checking Biden’s comments because many were simply false….
Welcome to the Occupation
October 12th, 2012
9:01 am
Stevie Ray: I agree with you..Rome is definitely burning..especially in the ME..we have a pile of evidence confirming BO’s failure of foreign policy
Is Rome really burning, Stevie?
How do you mean exactly?
What’s the reason for the panic here?
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:02 am
RB from Gwinnett
Still there? Before going further, given you believe life begins at conception and that constitutes a ‘child,’ do you view that ‘child’ as having the same legal status as a ten-year-old?
Mick
October 12th, 2012
9:02 am
When you listen to romney/ryan, they come across like if they are elected snap your fingers cuz the economy is going to boom – untruth! or that snap your fingers and the world will fear and respect us more – another untruth. It takes hard work and the economy is definately trending positive. We cannot control every event and are not the masters of the world; as soon as this mindset is buried, the better…
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
9:02 am
do you think mary has that 45 rpm record of ” I am woman, here me roar”……..Was it Helen Reddy???
USMC
October 12th, 2012
9:02 am
“Jay mustve needed to sleep in after the debate”
I think Jay had NIGHTMARES of Uncle Festor… err… I mean Joe Biden!
Or maybe Jay needed time off after realizing that the “Good Ship Obama” has hit a massive Ice Berg and is taking on water…
moonbat betty
October 12th, 2012
9:03 am
Biden reminded me of Jack Nicholson in move “The Shining” last night.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
9:03 am
shape shifter… I have been called worse… Guess your a Star Trek fan to, eh, Jam Vet…
@Mary Elizabeth
Woman’s rights as they pertain to innocent unborn babies, is just a little more complicated. To label anybody against women’s rights just because they are trying to protect innocent unborn babies is just ABSURD. You are smarter, I hope.
Native of Blog
October 12th, 2012
9:03 am
Thump. Thump. Thump. Whump thump. Whump thump. Whump thump.
Thump.
Thump.
We grow restless.
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:04 am
RB from Gwinnett
Not trying to rush you, as I just realized you may be reading through the earlier link to the “Financial Crisis Inquiry Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis in the United States”
so you can find out what Bush policies caused the economic collapse of 2008.
But the answer to the child question is just yes or no -
Welcome to the Occupation
October 12th, 2012
9:04 am
“I’m wondering if the MSM will be diligent in checking Biden’s comments because many were simply false…. ”
Rich, Joseph. Rich.
You don’t serious want to try to go down that road do you, the accuracy and truth avenue?
Just, wow..
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
9:04 am
mike, LOL at you.
Last night he couldn’t spell his name.
This morning, he didn’t do bad.
Keep drinking the koolaid, flip-flopper!
Mick
October 12th, 2012
9:04 am
peter
Right, work together? What did mitch mcconnell say after the worst economic crisis in decades on obama’s inauguration day? Our number one goal is to defeat president obama. Not jobs, not deficits, not wars…which party should you trust? It’s a no brainer…
Jm
October 12th, 2012
9:05 am
Usmc
Or he’s just busy at a DNC meeting
bman
October 12th, 2012
9:05 am
lol Moonbat
gm
October 12th, 2012
9:06 am
Paul Ryan I do not support the stimulus was a terrible program, yet he writes Biden asking for gov assistant for his state, typical hypocrites of the right, we dont want gov to do anything, by the way could you send more pell grants.
Ryan and Romney dont give a dam about the middle class, the smart people in Oh, Mich are not fooled by the rich brats on the right.
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
9:06 am
mary elizabeth, keep on delfecting. old bitty! O look at me being a bully
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 12th, 2012
9:07 am
“One more thing–for what it is worth, Sarah Palin did a much better job against Joe Biden in 2008 than Paul Ryan did tonight. Bizarre, but true.”
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/the-veep-debate-how-did-it-go-a-poll.php
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
9:07 am
For the record for all to read,
I have repeated written on this blog that, imo, abortions should NOT be performed after the embryo is viable to living outside the uterus (except in unusual circumstances), but in the first few months of pregnancy a women’s right to choose is primary. No one knows her life’s situation and what she can handle but herself. If Roe vs. Wade is repealed, all that will happen is that women will die, once again, in back alley abortions in terrible circumstances. Those who do not see that either do not care, or are in denial.
JamVet
October 12th, 2012
9:07 am
Niiice. Hmmmm.
You must be a human version of the 86 Diplomat!
http://policecarwebsite.net/fc/copcarsite/mbody401a.jpg
clem
October 12th, 2012
9:09 am
hmmm, tell that to the tennessesse republican doctor/
http://www.knoxviews.com/node/19169
Obama is over
October 12th, 2012
9:09 am
Biden’s Cheshire cat grin made him look like a used car salesman trying to sell a jalopy with a rolled back odometer to the American public. Unfortunately, with the protracted recession at home and American men and women in harm’s way being attacked every day abroad, Biden was the only one laughing. I thought that both candidates made good points, but overall, Biden did very little to explain what an Obama/Biden second term would look like. Frankly, all he had to offer were the same tired catch phrases and more fuzzy math claiming that by simply raising taxes on successful people, all of the nation’s problems will be solved. There wasn’t an ounce of sincereity in his mannerisms. Maybe he can become a MSNBC commentator after November 6th.
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:09 am
RB from Gwinnett
Are you okay?
I do hope that actually thinking about the implications of what you wrote didn’t cause your circuits to overload and cause a meltdown of your central nervous system? At least post something to let us know you’re okay!!!
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
9:10 am
mary do u believe in 213th term abortions?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
9:10 am
Joe reminds me of guy that shows up at the Rotary lunch every month and rambles about his 40 years of selling Insurance……And the American people are smarter than that…..ask John McCain
Goldie
October 12th, 2012
9:11 am
I’m always curious how the so-called “right-to-life” wingnuts feel about the unwanted children who are already here with us? What solace do you provider them with your “right-to-life” policies only toward unborn fetuses?
Thanks in advance!
DBCOOPER
October 12th, 2012
9:11 am
Ryan should have slapped that Hair plugged smirk off Bite Me’s face
Biden lied Americans died in Libya..
Matti
October 12th, 2012
9:11 am
Mick,
I was hoping Joe Biden would toss out an “Oh yeah, tell that to my friend Mitch McConnell” retort to lil’ Eddie when he pulled out his bogus “bi-partisan” card. Anybody who believes the Republicans want to work in a bi-partisan way has been living under a rock with no access to cable or internet.
Brosephus™
October 12th, 2012
9:11 am
I bet Biden was laughing because of what he expected to read on this blog… Or at least that’s why I’m smiling and laughing.
Aquagirl
October 12th, 2012
9:12 am
To label anybody against women’s rights just because they are trying to protect innocent unborn babies is just ABSURD.
Knuckle-draggers who claim they love the blastocysts are often the same ones who start with the passive-aggressive “sweeties” and other lame attempts at demeaning sexist yammer when they get mad. They also generally don’t give a damn about children once they get here, and spend inordinate amounts of time complaining about teh hoors buying steak and lobster with SNAP cards.
So let’s drop the pretense they’re concerned about the children. We know better.
Tundra Dude
October 12th, 2012
9:12 am
a pile of evidence confirming BO’s failure of foreign policy.
The Obama Administration has been an unmitigated disaster” – Osama Bin Laden
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
9:12 am
Mary, you’ll get your chance to tell that to someone a whole lot more important than us one day.
Jm
October 12th, 2012
9:12 am
Economist called debate a draw
Brosephus™
October 12th, 2012
9:13 am
Voter Suppression Sheetzzzzz!!!!!!!!!
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
9:15 am
Welcome to the Occupation:
Absolutely… Biden told numerous lies. You can’t find one Ryan told…..
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:15 am
Mary Elizabeth 9:07
Well-reasoned and well-put.
RB from Gwinnett: the key to your view is your use of the concept “believe.” It’s a belief you have. It’s not a statement of fact, like the temperature at which water boils at sea level, it’s your belief derived, I understand from your past statements, your personal faith.
I am in the ‘we can’t say with certainty when life begins’ camp. I do distinguish between potential viability to develop into what we call ‘human’ from what we assert to be human (or a ‘child.’). So I think we have a reasonable balance, granting to the woman the right of decision-making up to the general time at which it is recognized that life outside the womb can be sustained.
Are you recovering yet?
DebbieDoRight - Conservatives have always been great storytellers; it is their fatal weakness. They love casting their eyes back to the past to avoid seeing what lies right under their noses.
October 12th, 2012
9:15 am
MaryE: . If Roe vs. Wade is repealed, all that will happen is that women will die, once again, in back alley abortions in terrible circumstances.
Mary — good morning! I don’t think that Roe V. Wade will EVER be overturned; I think its just a hot button, war cry issue for the repubs. When the repugs, under Bush, held the Senate, Congress and the Presidency, they could’ve drew up legislation to overturn R v. W then — notice they chose NOT to.
it’s just one more political casualty on a battlefield filled with political casualties.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 12th, 2012
9:15 am
C’mon people, cheer up!
You still got Mitt’s smackdown in Denver. No one can take that away from you.
C’mon! It was just a week ago. Why all the long faces!!? Lol.
JohnnyReb
October 12th, 2012
9:16 am
Biden was rude and condescending. The kind of guy I enjoy throwing out of my office. It is scary he is next in line behind Barry. All the Moonbat support being thrown his way is a sign of their desperation. I think most Americans are asking themselves; is this is the best they (the Democrats) can offer?
Jm
October 12th, 2012
9:16 am
Code pink.
Zuccoti park people.
Where have those movements gone?
Just withered as always. Silly libs.
Mick
October 12th, 2012
9:16 am
matti
I’m 54 and obama briefly uttered to romney, “what about people that are 54 or 53? This is where they lose bigtime because they want to change the rules in the middle of the game. Now, I’ll be 55 in february, so that seems to be the magical cutoff number, should romney prevail I’ll shake my head and say well all you middle class folks under 55, you are going to get what you ask for – the shaft…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
9:19 am
RB,
So that means you and other pro-lifer’s are willing to provide loving homes for the throngs of children otherwise born into home situations that are deplorable?
Mary, I’m not suggesting this comment applies to your situation…biggest issue as I see it is the unwanted or unloved kids who have no say in home environment of parental interest…
Its ME
October 12th, 2012
9:19 am
Mick, just keep passing the buck further down the road to the next generation. Its all about you!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 12th, 2012
9:20 am
Well, I felt right sorry for that focus group of people that ain’t made up their mind yet. It’s hard to be the Biggest Bunch of Dummies in America. Sort of like getting picked for a jury. If you ain’t read or heard nothing about much of anything you’re Retarded with a capital R. If you can listen to arguments for months and not know which one to beleive, you got a IQ of about 19.
I think the kindest thing they could of done is take those people outside and shoot them.
Have a good Friday everybody. I’m hauling and lugging and trying to get you ready for tonite.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
9:21 am
@Mary Elizabeth
No one knows her life’s situation and what she can handle but herself.
Are you kidding? Murder is Murder… There are ALWAYS alternatives to abortion, no matter what the stage of pregnancy. Defending someones rights to kill someone is so beneath you Mary. Again, you are smarter than this. But hey, it’s so easy for us to rationalize, since our moms made the right decision, we have the opportunity to make complete idiots out of ourselves blogging…
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
9:21 am
Joseph,
To be fair, they both continued lies (except the whopper Biden told about Libya..seems they are playing hot potato over who gets blame…Hillary and State or WH) we’ve all heard before..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-the-vice-presidential-debate/2012/10/12/e900404a-13d0-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_blog.html
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 12th, 2012
9:21 am
Bro- “I bet Biden was laughing because of what he expected to read on this blog… Or at least that’s why I’m smiling and laughing.”
What was he expecting to read?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
9:21 am
As opened minded ( chuckle from the left) I thought Joe did a decent job shoring up his bosses short comings last night. Told a few lies. What elected official doesn’t. He missed a good opportunity though. He’s the Vice president of the United States. He came off to American people with his antics as a SNL skit audition.
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
9:22 am
Paul, thanks for the link to that 600 page report, but how about telling me what Bush policy caused the collapse. Surely you have an actual answer.
Mary, how cute you’re speaking out for your daughter, but what message do you have for her unborn children? “Sorry kid, but you’re just not convenient for mommy right now so you’ll never see the light of day”. Give us a break on that speaking for her unborn kids crap, Mary.
moonbat betty
October 12th, 2012
9:22 am
bman, Biden ruled the debate.
Here’s ole Biden (portrayed by Nicholson) making Ryan look like a scared little girl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n47U-v3v1-Q
Joseph
October 12th, 2012
9:23 am
Here an interesting clip of last nights debate. maybe Biden was trying to scare people in to voting for him and Oblama….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TVooUHN7j4
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
9:23 am
HMMMM,
Glad your mom brought you into a loving home…same can’t be said of those who make a difficult choice…keep your politics outside womens womb…it’s none of your business unless you are willing to provide stable home environment…easy for you to stand on your high horse and pop off…you are not the one making this choice..
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:24 am
Mary Elizabeth
“Hmmmmmmm” is one of those monikers a regular blogger chooses because he/she knows the argument they’re making is so shallow they’re embarrassed to use the moniker everyone would recognize.
DBCOOPER
October 12th, 2012
9:25 am
When will politicans and the American public realize that changes have to be made. Turning in a SO-CALLED budget that is over revenue by 1.6 trillion dollars will eventually sink us. People are so afraid they’re not gonna get some etitlement they will vote for a politican that they think will give them something, that they couldn’t care less about the country. If Obama has to take a business’ money from them to pay me my entitlement , so be it. Never mind that bussiness’ is what keeps America runnung. We are now a nanny state. Stand by for what’s happening in Europe.
gm
October 12th, 2012
9:26 am
Amazing when Mitt the liar talked over President Obama last week no one called him rude, after watching this debate if people dont see Paul and Mitt will send your sons and daugther to die in another war then you are just blind.
The golden boy said it is ok to send American troops in danger places without help, the right wing nut bigots hate the President so bad they rather risk the lives of their own sons while young Ryan and Mitt sons take vacation.
moonbat betty
October 12th, 2012
9:26 am
lol Joseph!
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 12th, 2012
9:27 am
Aren’t we all glad this morning that Mary’s mother didn’t lose her with a night of bad behavior and decide , as our President once told us, “I’m not living with this mistake”….. But I’M sure Mary was born in a civil time when folks got married, planned her, and she was born….Lucky her, right?
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:28 am
RB from Gwinnett
You are welcome. Glad you’re back and okay!
There’s a ‘conclusion’ section right at the beginning that lays out bullet points that summarize, in a few paragraphs, the key causes.
I can cut and paste them if you want.
Stuff like “We conclude widespread failures in financial regulation and supervision
proved devastating to the stability of the nation’s financial markets.”
“We conclude this financial crisis was avoidable. The crisis was the result of human
action and inaction, not of Mother Nature or computer models gone haywire. The
captains of finance and the public stewards of our financial system ignored warnings
and failed…”
“We conclude the government was ill prepared for the crisis, and its inconsistent
response added to the uncertainty and panic in the financial markets”
Each of those points are expanded upon.
moonbat betty
October 12th, 2012
9:28 am
Ya’ll lay off Mary Elizabeth!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
9:29 am
Joseph,
I liked the way Ryan, on two occaisions, slapped down Biden…calling him out for the scare tactics BS that defines President Trillions campaign stategy…since they can’t talk about their record (hard when ME is on fire, 15% all-in unemployment, broken promises galore from 2008 etcetera..
Voter turnout is going to be achilles heel for BO…enthusiam is waning amongst minorities and students…who now are facing unemployment 75% or so higher than the 7.8% (subject to recalculation prior to election) so often, in desperation, alluded to by DEMS
DBCOOPER
October 12th, 2012
9:29 am
Micjk I hope Obama and Biden give you what you think you are ENTITLED too. America be damned!! Just give me mine!
Matti
October 12th, 2012
9:30 am
I’m a liberal and believe everything….,
To quote Olympia Dukakis in the movie Moonstruck: “What you don’t know about women is a lot.”
Bless your heart.
ROTFLMFAO
October 12th, 2012
9:31 am
Jay,
Firs,t to let you know where from I’m come – I am a “senior”, and I’m 65 years old.
“hit a home run on Medicare with seniors” – not with seniors who understand the Conservative’ Party’s proposal.
Sure, in some cases the plan to let seniors stay in the current Medicare system or choose to receive payments to them instead of to the doctors or insurance companies will, in some cases be insufficient to cover my cost, but letting this senior choose for himself, rather than letting some govern bureaucrats choose for me (by the way, I’m one of those bureaucrats, too), is much preferred over the Liberal Party’s “Obamacare” plan.
When I finally retire, I plan to maintain the private insurance company health plan (BC/BS) provided by my employer (Uncle Sam). I will be responsible for paying a more substantial portion of the premiums than I now pay,
but if I receive a “voucher”, or whatever you want to call it, that voucher amount will pay a substantial portion of my share of my private insurance company premium. And, since Medicare trumps the private insurance company health plans, I will end up paying very little “out of pocket” for my health total health insurance package.
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:31 am
I’m a liberal 9:27
You’re saying we should all model our lives on what you’ve done with yours? Because the decisions you’ve made at each step of the way have been right, correct, virtuous and true?
Everything?
Oh, goody! Please, lay out for us all the things you’ve done, every one of them, because you’ve conducted your life that’s the model for the rest of us!
Atlanta 1
October 12th, 2012
9:31 am
Interesting…
Didn’t bother reading the one-sided comments from either side of this.
As CNN got it right.
It was a ‘Draw’ and Biden came across angry and aggressive.
He did not act the role of VP, while Ryan did.
The Democrats were pounded the week before, so they were out for blood tonight.
If your a Dem – you got what you wanted, but how many independant voters did you lose tonight?
Especially Independant woman, who want ego’s checked at the door and facts displayed.
So Jay, I’ll respectfully disagree. ‘Draw with a a slight lean to Ryan’…
Matti
October 12th, 2012
9:33 am
A liberal, a conservative, and a libertarian walk into a bar.
The bartender says, “Hey Mitt! What’ll ya have?”
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
9:33 am
I found it ironic that Ryan mentioned credibility several times, when he and Romney are anything but credible, considering their constant flip-flops and obfuscations. How many times has their campaign staff had to tell us what Romney really meant to say a hour after he made a statement? That’s leadership? Looks like he is be lead.
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 12th, 2012
9:34 am
GM,
The golden boy said it is ok to send American troops in danger places without help, the right wing nut bigots hate the President so bad they rather risk the lives of their own sons while young Ryan and Mitt sons take vacation.
I think you got this wrong..first the bigot remark is sign of fright and lack of substance, second as far as sending troops into harms way without help, the withdraw (to be fair I want all pulled out from Iraq and Afghanistan…neither will be able to avoid taliban and al queda control..with our weapons mind you pointed against us). per Biden that isn’t concerned with grand outcome is absurd.
I think you are 100% on with comment about Romney kids et al..fortunately, we have no shortage of enlisted folks..
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
9:35 am
Goldie, so, youre saying your opinion is life begins whenever and that’s great because you’re an atheist, but my opinion isn’t valid because I’m a Christian and therefore it must be a religious opinion??? Sorry, Goldie, that dog won’t hunt.
Paul
October 12th, 2012
9:36 am
sheets -
Mary Elizabeth
October 12th, 2012
9:46 am
Good morning Paul and Debbie,
Debbie, don’t be so sure that Roe vs. Wade might not be repealed. Did you ever think that Republicans would be as far right as they are in their thinking today that their main purpose in Congress has been to “defeat a President to re-election” or that they would in bloc sign an unrealistic Grover Norquist, adolescent pledge that would allow for no for revenue increases for running our nation, or that so many would be buying into unreasoned propaganda that they would be continuously vote against their own best interests? I never thought those extremes would exist in today’s Republican Party. Yet, that mentality is upon us now.
I want to make it very clear that I would have had a very heart wrenching and dificult time choosing to have an abortion, myself, during my childbearing years. Fortunately, I never had to confront making that situation. But I have eyes that can see for others and I know that not every woman (or man who is the partner of a woman in that situation) has lived my life. I can see that a married woman with six children already might be overwhelmed to the point of breaking with a seventh child bear and to raise at age 47. I can see that a young girl of 13 or14 who lives in abject poverty and who cannot handle her own life, cannot possibly handle the life of another. I see that a woman who went into post delivery depression with her last pregnancy and almost did not recover from it, may go over the edge mentally with another pregnancy because her particular hormonal genetic DNA predisposes her to that life-crushing depression. I see that some people cannot handle raising a child with severe abnormalities, whereas others can.
Matters of life and death are so much more complex than can possibly be explained in full and in depth with words alone. In an ideal world, no killings would ever occur in any circumstance, and that means in war, also. But we do not live in an ideal world. To deny a woman the right to make a very personal, private decision regarding the child she may or may not carry (at least in the first months of pregnancy) could be more life-taking to her, and her family, than an abortion that might be extremely difficult for her to decide upon.
gm
October 12th, 2012
9:46 am
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…
I mean how can you bash the stimulus money like Ryan, then ask for money for your own state?
Biden is dead on, let the Afghanistan people handle there own country and let there troops go in harm way, Paul wants more troops in the danager zone, listening to this guy, America would be fighting another war within 2 years.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
9:47 am
@Stevie
Really. I thought it was a function of government to legislate our laws… I guess I am a little confused… Nobody has the right to murder! Period. All that you said is irrelevant, as if coming into a safe and loving home has anything to do with the rampant murder of unborn children that goes on in this country every day.
@Paul
Shallow of me to try and protect any unborn children from harm…. Typical Leftist remark… Pathetic, and all in the name of women’s personal rights… How ABSURD…
RB from Gwinnett
October 12th, 2012
9:52 am
Paul, bush policies. Bush policies. Got any?
Road Scholar
October 12th, 2012
9:55 am
As to abortion, what I heard last night is that the Repubs want to outlaw it AT THE FEDERAL level except for rape, incest, or the health of the mother. Then in the next breath, they want to turn the decision over to the states. Doesn’t Federal law trump state law?
Also, let’s say a few states legalize abortions which would not violate repub law. These states would then have to decide to take or not out of state cases. That is absurd.
Some people believe life begins at conception. (why doesn’t or birthday begin then?) Or is it the gleam in someone’s eyes? Others believe it occurs somewhere between conception and birth. Some believe in creationism and others in the Big Bang. So it is a personal belief, a personal decision, and anything the government restricts beyond present law is an infringement on the pregnant women’s’ rights to decide for herself.
IF YOU DO NOT WANT AN ABORTION, DO NOT HAVE ONE.
IF YOU WANT/NEED AN ABORTION, THEN IT IS BETWEEN THE PARENTS, AND THEIR GOD!!!!
VegasGT
October 12th, 2012
10:27 am
Abortion – What an issue, but one I firmly believe is each person’s to decide for themself. I can tell you what I believe though. The above person is wrong, this is not about outlawing the practice, it is about providing public funding for such. It is therefore about taking my tax dollars and paying for something I find morally objectionable in most cases, not all.
Remember, most abortions are the result of poor decisions made by an individual or individuals (two). Why should anyone pay for the perceived correction of that bad decision?
It’s a personal decision and should be paid for by the person or private funds, not government sponsored.
The debate to me was a draw as far as the content goes, with each side scoring points on different issues. As far as the overall impression, Biden came across as rude, disrespectful and pompous. I am a republican and we are supposed to be to pompous ones. Biden visually came off as not only rude and disrespectful, but also elitest and condesending.
That is why you see the polling coming out so different. Biden took a steep dive in likeability. I think his outright lie on Libya will come home to roost though as it is recent and not subject to much gray area interpretation.
I have met Biden and he is a nice guy, but last night made me want to take my hands out of my pockets and check to make sure all my fingers were still there. How can the guy look straight at the camera and ask us who we trust and then make the kind of smirks and body gestures this guy did? Slimy.
Hmmmmmmm
October 12th, 2012
10:39 am
@Road Scholar
How easy has it become for us to desensitize murder…. WOW, the comments come so easy… I could have just as easily said If you want/need to murder, then it is between the murderers, and their God!!!! Your right, but we are supposed to be an enlightened progressive society living by a set of laws provided by our government / politicians.
Bill Orvis White
October 12th, 2012
10:52 am
Joe Bidin’Time was arrogant, ignorant and rude while the honorable Rep. Paul D. Ryan crushed the installed-VP with calmness, charm, proper facts and accurate figures. WE THE PEOPLE ARE COUNTING DOWN THE DAYS UNTIL PRESIDENT ROMNEY IS SWORN IN. WE SEE LIGHT THROUGH THE TREES AND A RETURN TO FREEDOM! AMEN, BILL
Divide and Conquer
October 12th, 2012
11:19 am
Just think lefties. If y’all hadn’t aborted all them there blastocysts and embyros, there would have been enough Democrats to rule the US with an iron fist a decade ago. (Just imagine, no Bush II)Don’t worry though, we’ll keep feeding you, housing you, and giving you free sh*t until you can take over. Then you can have all the redistribution you can stand.
It’s a shame really. We could have been well on our way to being more like Greece.
As far as the Biden/Ryan debate goes, Biden demonstrated perfectly the classless and d-baggery behavior of a lefty. What was him game plan, interupt Ryan every 20 seconds? I expect the rudeness, snot, snark, and contumely on lefty blog like this (and you righties aren’t much better), but Biden is supposed to be a leader? Fail. I’m no Republican so I won’t be voting for either of the Two Turds, but I like the way Ryan handled himself.
What would have been great is if Ryan had sauntered over to Biden and leaned in close to look him square in the eye and said, “Old man, you interupt me one more time …and I’ll pop you right in the snot locker.” I’d vote Repub for sure then.
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
11:32 am
What would have been great is if Ryan had sauntered over to Biden and leaned in close to look him square in the eye and said, “Old man, you interupt me one more time …and I’ll pop you right in the snot locker.” I’d vote Repub for sure then.
++
That’s a strange way to pick who to vote for?
Divide and Conquer
October 12th, 2012
11:36 am
Given the two choices, I just don’t think it matters. Obama, Romney, Obamney. WTFE.
TiredOfIt
October 12th, 2012
12:54 pm
It matters a lot. Just think Supreme Court.