Ryan, Biden vie to be top second banana
Tonight, U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan, the darling of the conservative right and the GOP nominee for vice president of the United States, takes to the national stage to debate incumbent Vice President Joe Biden.
And frankly, some people just can’t wait …
For reasons I cannot fathom, nobody to my knowledge has made a similar video touting Biden’s sex appeal. And if I’m wrong about that, please, allow me to remain blissfully ignorant and do not post it here.
The evening promises to be an interesting confrontation between two very different men. The strengths of one play into the weaknesses of the other, and vice versa. Biden, who wears his heart and compassion on his sleeve, vs. Ryan, the Ayn Rand acolyte who, in his own mind at least, tries to protect the makers from the takers. Biden, the older man, is also the more unpredictable, while Ryan exudes a Spartan discipline.
Loading ...The interplay between such two diverse principals makes the debate impossible to predict. Tonight’s debate may not draw the numbers attracted by Biden’s debate with Sarah Palin four years ago, but that was more of a freak show than a political event. For my money, this one has much more promise.
I’ll throw up a fresh post somewhere about 8 p.m,. with the debate scheduled to begin at 9 for live commenting as events dictate.
– Jay Bookman
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Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
6:42 pm
Don’t tread
October 11th, 2012
6:38 pm
Well, looks like Ryan already lost due to Glenn Beck’s SUV crashing.
Apparently he’s not familiar with the parking brake feature.
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
6:42 pm
Addressing a crowd in Danville, VA…… With your help we can win this state if the people of North Carolina will just help us.
That Black Guy
October 11th, 2012
6:43 pm
Come on Jay.
I was REALLY looking forward to Fred’s comments on this debate.
Even Nixon got a pardon.
Free Fred!!
josef
October 11th, 2012
6:44 pm
getalife
It struck me as a show for something…whatever it was, I doubt Turkey was acting unilaterally. Putin postponed his planned trip to Ankara. It may well have been for domestic consumption. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, they found…
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
6:45 pm
This is a good guy……. clean.
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
6:46 pm
Remarks by Jill Biden introducing Joe ….. I’ve seen this guy up close.
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
6:46 pm
Guess you gotta clean out the closet BEFORE the debate…
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/paul-ryan-drops-endorsement-wisconsin-lawmaker-under-fire-173247435–election.html
Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan has withdrawn his endorsement of a Wisconsin state lawmaker who has come under fire for controversial comments he made about rape.
Late last year, while discussing an alleged rape at a high school in his district, Rep. Roger Rivard told a local newspaper that his father taught him “some girls rape easy.”
“State Rep. Rivard’s comments are outrageous and offensive,” Kevin Seifert, the manager of Ryan’s congressional campaign, said in a statement on Thursday. “Congressman Ryan believes there is no place in our discourse for rhetoric such as this. Congressman Ryan cannot support Mr. Rivard or his indefensible comments.”
My question is, if he said that last year, why is the endorsement now only being pulled? It’s funny watching the rats jump ship after the sh*t hits the fan.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
6:49 pm
josef,
Show me the Russian arms on video will prove their claim. Probably propaganda.
“SEATTLE (AP) — Washington state is on the verge of becoming the first in the nation to let adults over 21 buy taxed, inspected marijuana at state-licensed shops..”
Finally, free the weed and Fred.
bman
October 11th, 2012
6:49 pm
The longer Fred is away, the more recipes he will have to share when he comes back
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
6:49 pm
Fred should rot. Never to be heard from again.
Why?
He doesn’t like me.
Soldier Mom
October 11th, 2012
6:50 pm
Just for Paul:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq5_pEO8a8U
getalife
October 11th, 2012
6:51 pm
filky,
You are so lovable so why don’t bloggers like you?
HMPlatt
October 11th, 2012
6:51 pm
WHEREFORE ART THOU, MITT ROMNEY?
By Ralph Maxwell
O, Romney-O, Romney-O, Wherefore art thou, Mitt Romney?
You flip-flop here, you flip-flop there,
You flip-flop almost ev’rywhere.
You ballyhoo what you’re gonna do
And then you pull a switcheroo;
You now malign what you found fine;
Seems like you’ve got a jellyfish spine.
Obamacare, by you begun,
Now you’d trash it on day one.
Gun control you did extol,
But now you’re preaching decontrol.
O, Romney-O, Romney-O, Wherefore art thou, Mitt Romney?
We’ve got no clue what you will do
Or what new view you’ll pander to.
Time was you championed women’s choice,
But you no longer heed their voice;
On gay rights, too, guess you withdrew
Support they once enjoyed from you.
Global warming, EPA,
Immigration, minimum pay,
Roe V. Wade, also fair trade,
All joined your flip-flop cavalcade.
O, Romney-O, Romney-O Wherefore art thou, Mitt Romney?
So many things that you were for
You’ve turned against and slammed the door.
Stimulus and cap and trade,
Education, foreign aid,
Campaign reform, tarp rescues, too,
All victims of your switcheroo.
You take your stand on shifting sand,
We never know where you will land;
You vacillate, and you fabricate,
A wishy-washy candidate.
O, Romney-O, Romney-O, Wherefore art thou Mitt Romney?
As gov’nor you let taxes rise,
Now ev’ry tax you demonize.
You say regardless of the facts
You’d take an axe to the millionaire’s tax;
You’d feed the greed of the richest few
The poor and middle class you’d screw.
Your tax returns you hide from view
What evil lurks there we’ve no clue;
If they’re not bad why hesitate?
Is it that they incriminate?
O, Romney-O, Romney-O, Wherefore art thou Mitt Romney?
At Bain you plundered with a flair
And walked away a zillionaire.
You shipped off-shore, good jobs galore
To China, India, Singapore;
A job creator you are not.
And to boast you are is tommyrot.
As a total fraud, Mitt’s got no peer;
What we must do is crystal clear:
Let’s give Obama four more years!
Yes, it’s Obama – four more years!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
FOUR MORE YEARS!
Soldier Mom
October 11th, 2012
6:53 pm
What did Fred do?
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
6:55 pm
Soldier Mom
Fred got an unsportsmanlike conduct flag for hectoring.
Jack in cumming
October 11th, 2012
6:56 pm
Why even have this debate! Ryan will make a mockery of the drunken fool
josef
October 11th, 2012
6:56 pm
SINKWICH
Hell if just not liking you is reason to be banned, then Big Daddy might as well sell the plantation…
BROSEPHUS
I think the Imam was just jealous he didn’t come up with the term…
Doggone/GA
October 11th, 2012
6:58 pm
“Ryan will make a mockery of the drunken fool”
Somebody made a video of Ryan debating himself?
bman
October 11th, 2012
6:59 pm
Hectoring? is that some of racial slur ?
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
7:00 pm
What’s your take on the Turks intercepting the Syrian airliner on the way from Russia?
They’re hoping to get hostages so they can get pu22y riot released.
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:01 pm
getalife
THAT is good news…tax that Yakima fireweed…seriously, though, that’s a tax a lot of folks wouldn’t mind paying…not to mention the jobs it would create.
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:01 pm
josef
I don’t know why he would be. A google search for “delusional lickspittle” in quotations returned 30 hits that was narrowed down to 11 to avoid duplication. Out of those 11, either 8 or 9 were links to Jay’s blog in some form or fashion. If a blogger can consistently refer to liberals here as “fruit”, why can’t Fred refer to them as delusional lickspittle?
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
7:01 pm
“Hell if just not liking you is reason to be banned, then Big Daddy might as well sell the plantation…”
Actually, I don’t care one way or the other…
One more leftie doofus on Jay’s blog makes no difference.
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:02 pm
Don’t Forget…
Hmmm….could be….
getalife
October 11th, 2012
7:03 pm
josef,
Looks like my trip out West will be Seattle.
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:03 pm
Hectoring? is that some of racial slur ?
I think it’s more like targeted heckling. Using vectors to determine range and angle of attack to heckle someone might be hectoring. Can’t say for sure though.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:06 pm
“Fred should rot. Never to be heard from again.
Why?
He doesn’t like me.”
Well it is going to be lonely in this world with just you
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:06 pm
Well, I was wrong. Hectoring is talking to someone in a bullying way.
Doggone/GA
October 11th, 2012
7:07 pm
“I think it’s more like targeted heckling”
I don’t think so. I think it’s more like riding a hobby horse after it has made it clear it’s dying on it’s feet. It’s a “let it go already” kind of thing.
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:07 pm
BROSEPHUS
I just don’t get it myself…he’s let the Du-k-sha-nee and Sooth call me everything but a child of G-d and nada…
SINKWICH
But if he banned EVERYBODY who don’t like you, there wouldn’t be enough bloggers left to keep the place up and running…
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
7:08 pm
Bro
This is targeted heckling LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIpTVU3Ddlo
SwamiDave
October 11th, 2012
7:08 pm
Might recommend to PrezBO that expecting the bottom of your ticket to salvage your campaign is not a plan for success.
Just ask John McCain!
-SD
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:08 pm
SINKWICH
But if he banned EVERYBODY who don’t like you, there wouldn’t be enough bloggers left to keep the place up and running…
____________________________________
The world would be empty after we all rotted
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:09 pm
Well except for Sink of course
bman
October 11th, 2012
7:09 pm
Is it even possible to be a “bully” on a blog-ground ?
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:10 pm
josef
My point exactly… Some posters can’t type a sentence here without throwing invectives.
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NoCom
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
7:10 pm
TBS@7:09
Yeah, but it would be a souless planet
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
7:10 pm
kayaker
The debate is in Danville, KY.
Danville, KY and Danville, VA, to give you some credit, are in states that touch each other; is there a Danville, WA? If so, that would be a much larger error if someone made it.
If you went to Danville, VA for the debate, hang out for a NASCAR race. That way, your trip wouldn’t be totally wasted. It’s a short track with lots of wrecks.
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
7:11 pm
“But if he banned EVERYBODY who don’t like you, there wouldn’t be enough bloggers left to keep the place up and running…”
Sad, but true…
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:11 pm
Common
I figured Sink was good for that one. He has been crying about that for two days now
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:12 pm
Is it even possible to be a “bully” on a blog-ground ?
Jay’s blog-ground… Jay’s rules.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
7:12 pm
All Biden has to do is wish Dale Jr. well at the start of the debate and the south is basically theirs.
Don't Forget
October 11th, 2012
7:12 pm
My point exactly… Some posters can’t type a sentence here without throwing invectives.
True, and my guess is that Jay blows by some of their posts just like the rest of us. Can’t really say I blame him.
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
7:13 pm
BTW
according to the flingers the true unemployment rate is 47% since everyone knows that all working people pay federal income taxes
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:13 pm
getalife
Go up to Bellingham while you’re there…the ride up I-5 at one time was ranked the most beautiful stretch of interstate in the country. Go up the Skagit Valley, Tom Wolf described it as a Chinese watercolor in its aura…and believe me, a drive around the Olympic Peninsula and the rain forest is a lifetime memory…and, I assure you, the Yakima is just the right frame of mind for exploring G-d’s Country…
My advice, though, is to do it in late July or August!
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:13 pm
“But if he banned EVERYBODY who don’t like you, there wouldn’t be enough bloggers left to keep the place up and running…”
Sad, but true…
I’d be here as I don’t hate you. I simply just don’t give a rat’s ass about you. That might be semantics to you, but I just don’t feel anything towards you at all.
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
7:20 pm
joseph
I rented a car while staying in Seattle for a week and drove the Olympic peninsula. I stopped just before going into the park to get a bite. When I went to the window of a drive-in to order, the girl behind the window got huge eyes and asked me to stay right there. She disappeared for a few seconds and came back out of the kitchen with the whole staff.
“Say something,” she demanded. I don’t think they get many people from Atlanta up there.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
7:21 pm
yaker
That was a pretty impressive biden hit list if I don’t say so myself; so we know bidenisms and after tonight maybe ryanisms…I’m just looking for some truth…
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 11th, 2012
7:23 pm
Should Medicare cover hair plugs ?
Aquagirl
October 11th, 2012
7:23 pm
Hey, Fred will be around for the debate after all!
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/dead-fred-gets-prime-spot-vice-presidential-debate-211628611–election.html
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:23 pm
You libs
That’s a great story. I get that out west and in the northeast as well. My mom is from Panama, so I have a dark complication. I really throw folks for a loop when I they hear me speak.
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:26 pm
FREE FRED FOR FNM!!!
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
7:26 pm
nice palin dig…..half of the freak show will be there for your viewing pleasure jay…..either way, conservatism wins again tonight…..aka…..jay’s ultimate fear
Mick
October 11th, 2012
7:27 pm
0311@7:23
That’s pretty juvenile; although you do call them like you see them…
Mick
October 11th, 2012
7:28 pm
Yes, count me in FREE FRED Sometimes he can deliver a lickin; even though his brains not ticking…
Mick
October 11th, 2012
7:30 pm
billybob
Make no mistake about it, liberals absolutely do not fear far right conservatism, just repulsed…
F. Sinkwich
October 11th, 2012
7:31 pm
” I simply just don’t give a rat’s ass about you.”
How liberal of you.
Mutual, I’m sure…
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
7:31 pm
311
should medicare cover hair plugs?
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Sure, since you are of that age and have been pulling your hair out since President Obama was elected
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:33 pm
YOU LIBS
That really tripped us out when we lived up there. We were in the student lounge one day and a small group came over and asked if we would talk to them. “Sure, but what about?” “Oh, it doesn’t matter. We just want to hear you talk.”
What was bizarre to us, given the usual nastiness in much of the country toward the Southern dialect, was how complimentary it was.
Now here’s the funny part. Since that was then and this is now, and we’re talking of days and looks long gone, we were used to folks wanting to knock off a piece, but somebody who was hitting on you to hear you talk? THAT was a change of pace…
stands for decibels
October 11th, 2012
7:34 pm
joooooe the biden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcXb2FXcWg4
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
7:35 pm
mick,
i know how individual responsibility and individual liberty and limited gov’t while providing for the common defence repulses libs…..that is what wins tonight…..need a hug?
Common Sense isn't very Common
October 11th, 2012
7:36 pm
josef
you remember that far back when someone hit on you?
j/k my friend
We The People *** Flashback***
October 11th, 2012
7:36 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fETIjVvv1Ds
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:37 pm
MICK
Looking for truth? Me, too…that’s why I’m gonna tune into the Alf reruns instead…
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:38 pm
billybob
Not sure about Mick, but Sink seems to need one
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:39 pm
Common Sense…
Well, Unmentionable does say I have a long memory!
Billybob
October 11th, 2012
7:40 pm
will do tbs……
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 11th, 2012
7:45 pm
How liberal of you.
Only if liberal = honest. Otherwise, I was simply being honest.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:47 pm
Bro
I rounded up a hug for Sink. Hopefully he will be ok
josef
October 11th, 2012
7:49 pm
Both…
I ain’t huggin’ him…eeeewww cooties…
Jay
October 11th, 2012
7:51 pm
liveblog sheets
getalife
October 11th, 2012
7:51 pm
Thanks josef. Will do.
You libs,
I got the same reaction in California.
They loved my Georgia accent.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
7:53 pm
TBG @ 6:43
That was funny