Romney prospers by stiff-arming modern conservativism

“The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. ”

He wouldn’t govern.
He would be a heavily starched stuffed shirt figure head.

Who’d be pulling the strings? The Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove, Tony Perkins, etc….

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The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. I don’t have a clue on that one.

I do.

He’ll be slightly less bombastic than GWB on foreign policy matters, but he’ll still screw things up and send Freedom Bombs to spread democracy, and we’ll be cleaning up that mess after he’s gone.

He’ll appoint Federalist Society-approved stooges to the judiciary, ensuring that landmark legislation passed by the next generation of progressives will be castrated, and the Republic’s inevitable slide into second-tier status by the 22nd century will be hastened.

Ok, I don’t actually know this with 100% certainty; I’d say I’m only about 90-95% certain of this type of outcome.

and the reason I feel so certain is that despite the flip flopping, and Mitt’s supposedly moderate past, this machine that’s elected him and got right wing legislators and judges in place is much bigger than he is.

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JAY,

First, my suggestion that intelligence budget was cut by clinton is true however it was Congress (Bernie Sanders as leader) who pushed the cuts…he just went along for the ride…

Re Romney…who cares? What if he is moving more center? That may be a good thing despite typical cries from the other side that he will carry his “change of state” message if in WH…I think it would be ideal if whoever wins (this really crappy job) has to deal with a congress that is controlled by opposite party…if it is possible to get to compromise and get anything done and provide congress a modicum of respect…those dynamics at least have a chance…

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jm,
You can’t be that naive. Romney will have to raise taxes on the middle class to help pay for the tax cut for the rich. Mitt cares about two things. Taking care of his own kind and money…and not necessarily in that order.

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Morning, Granny

I’m not so sure. So Romney doesn’t have a firm political core. I say ’so’ because he strikes me, deep down, as a pragmatic problem solver. So what I’m hoping is when he gets all the parties together Boehner will look at him and think “what’s he going to jettison now? What’s he going to give up?” and Reed will look at him and think “he’s going to reverse course on A, B and C and then ask me in front of all these people, if Republicans will compromise like that, why can’t I compromise on D?”

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NORMAL,

Fair enough but aside from raising taxes on the evil rich (he has done a great job casting them as the root of all problems….such bad people) which will address about 2% of the issue, what else does he propose..

Where do you see that it is certain that Romney will increase taxes on the middle class…however they may be defined???

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Romney will have to raise taxes on the middle class to help pay for the tax cut for the rich.

Well no, he doesn’t. He can evolve get religion on the glories of deficit spending (particularly if he has to drop some Freedom Bombs) after a few months in office.

Remember “lucky me, I hit the trifecta?”

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What about the 10,000 RPG’s

Since you asked? I’d propose cramming them up the backsides of online concern trolls.

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…and with that bit @ 8.04, I’m probably gonna get moderated out, so I best plan to come back when it doesn’t stink so bad in here.

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Normal

Apparently you can’t read or hear

Romney said he’s not cutting taxes for the rich

#normalfail

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THOMAS

We are birds of a feather…except I see zero reason to give BO anymore time and money to waste on failed policies with no real plan to fix anything except stating that he can’t fix DC from the middle and that we somehow need to do this ourselves..how can we compete with big money?

Romney is not a better choice but I think the fodder provided him in past few days greatly outweighs the big bird-evade the issues, approach…

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stands- he’ll still screw things up and send Freedom Bombs to spread democracy, and we’ll be cleaning up that mess after he’s gone.

Yeah! We all know obama doesn’t bomb anything. You can tell those other countries love us by the way they burn our embassies…

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STANDS,

Congratulations! Another outstanding post! Did you learn the deflection technique from President Spineless? Can’t think of a better role model..

At least you admit that you got no game and can’t stand the “stink”…your beef is weak

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THOMAS,

What support can you provide that the DEMS have no hand for the completely ineffectual state our government is in?

My assessment is that our government is a man slowly be ravaged by cancer and all this BS election crap is simply two equally inept parties arguing whether the soon to be corpse should be hidden behind a blue or red dress…

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQwrB1vu74c&feature=related

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Jay, why not write about some real news at this point? We all know you disagree with Romney and think he’s not playing fair. Now, with that point having been established, why not write about something that’s acutally newsworthy such as the situation in Benghazi? You could pretend a republican was in office if it will help you to be truthful in your assessment.

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-I don’t know how else to interpret the fact that Romney was losing the race, badly, right up to the moment in the first debate that he ran fleeing from conservativism

Massachusetts: The home of Conservatism.

Here’s your sign.

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Clue? Here’s the answer: Better than the incumbent. That’s why the turnaround in the polls.

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Wow…for once we agree Jay.

The Alinskyite left has so hobbled the conservatives in this country that the so called ‘conservative’ candidate is a pale shadow of the ‘liberal’ candidate. The have successfully defined and framed all political discourse so that true conservative positions on immigration, economics, entitlements, and other issues can’t even be discussed, much less acted upon. So you are happy that the society of gutless, mindless worms that the modern media and public schools have produced can’t possibly vote for anyone who has rational ideas about how to preserve the great republic that our forefathers sacrificed everything to build?

Now that’s a true accomplishment…congratulations!

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Funny quote..is it shape of things to come? By estimates of voter turnout, BO has some real problems..

Millions of voters may now have packed their bags and moved out, after a whirlwind romance with President Obama and a relatively short marriage marred by unemployment, constant arguing, name-calling, signs he never much liked them, anyhow , and one of those terrible nights…

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Thomas Heyward 8:13

Thanks. I misunderstood your original post to read Romney was the corpse.

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This what is so disturbing about Romney, he will do & say ANYTHING to be elected. Who knows what he will really do. At this point all it looks like is that he is flat out lying to get elected. At least most politicans will try to polish the turd a bit but not Romney. He just keeps handing out more turds.

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Dang, my English are terrible. No coffee yet…need to get some……………

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You wouldn’t hire a guy that bald-faced lied on his resume would you?

Oh, I guess conservatives will….

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You never had a clue in the first place my friend.

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Romeny should just say “I’m the white Obama!”

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JAY,

Sure…of course I’m not suggesting he broke promises as opposed to changing positions…same in my book..

“the days of lobbyist controlling DC agenda are over…”
He promised to pursue criminal charges against Telecom and Wall Street…then he got their money..
Allow 5 days of public comment before signing a bill
Transparency
End income tax for seniors making less than $50K
He promised to let tax breaks for fat cats end
We are going to ban all earmarks…i think the ACA had about 9,000

Thoughts? And don’t blame the GOP which he decided before his inauguration to stonewall…many of these where broken during the years he had DEM control of congress

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You may actually be right (no pun intended) on this one, Jay. However, we would be better off electing a labrador retriever over the marxist/fascist/liar/incompetent (thank God on the last one) we have in there now.

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Sorry, I’m suggesting he did bait and switch by breaking promises which in my book is same as changing positions…although many including wall street, telecom and lobbyist were, to a large extent forgotten with cash exchange..

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I still can’t buy into the fact that one 90 minute debate convinced a sizable portion of the electorate to switch. No, it is a great narrative to be sure, but beginning tonight see if the needle is being threaded for a comeback starting with biden going after ryan’s vulnerable budget. I still believe that this is obama’s reace to lose and…he will prevail in the end…

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Some leader Romney would be. He doesnt have a position on anything anymore except signing what is sent to him. That is leading? Sounds like a puppet. And dont forget that kokok Paul Ryan. His positions may now be what Romeny says they are but as vice prez he will have a tie breaking vote in the Senate. Do people want that extremist with that power in the Senate?

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There are obviously millions more left-leaning Republicans out there than originally believed given Mitt’s jump in the polls once he started leaning left. I think Mitt is actually presenting himself as left of Obama according to his most recent policy positions. Republicans do love their lyin’ candidates. All Mitt and Paul have to do is tell their conned-stituency what they want to hear and the polls have clearly identified that message for them. Suckers. There’s millions of ‘em born every minute in the PITY Party.

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@ jay,, i realize you may a little liberal in your views.. but what is your take on the growing concern that the unemployment numbers that went from 8.1 to 7.8 are now being referred to as a statistical fluke?
I caught an article in the ny times and it seems there is more and more head scratching going on..

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Strange Beliefs exposed

What I’m waiting for is why you believe G-d would turn himself into a person, then kill himself, then raise himself from the dead, have his followers pretend they’re eating him, why He would call everyone his children then torture them forever, that kind of stuff.

And you have the nerve to think other people have weirdo beliefs?

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I have seen candidates step toward the middle but never have I seen a candidate take this big a jump to the left. So we are down to making a decision on something besides political ideology since both are now in the center.

So do I vote for the Kenyan or the Mexican? That is the question.

Second, defense announced that they have troops in Jordan and have had them there since early summer. I guess Obama still believes that the US is the world’s nanny.

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“Romney prospers by stiff-arming modern conservativism”–JAY BOOKMAN

Jay, you are starting to sound a little DESPERATE.

Comrade Obama still has the great advantage of political corruptness:
-Votes from Illegal Alien and Dead People.

And don’t think he won’t use them.

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Union

It’s a good example, as Jack Welch put it, of “I don’t really have anything to back this up, but doesn’t it seem strange” musings developing into a conspiracy.

Here’s a good article that cuts thru the hype and gets down to the nitty-gritty of the process the government uses, as well as the reason for the seeming disparity between unemployment rates and job growth.

“How the Government Compiles the Jobs Report”

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/10/05/4314835/how-the-government-compiles-the.html#

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and on that issue he can plausibly argue an evolution over time

Bawwwwhahaha

Gay marriage, it’s just a small thing, so, it’s ok for O to change his mind. I guess he “evolved” on cutting the deficit in half as well? Oh yeah, it’s those dang Republicans blocking him from doing so. I would venture to say that in order to cut the deficit, one should have a budget in place. Republicans again, you say? Funny he couldn’t get a single Dem to vote in favor of it either.

Was it a terrorist attack or was it a demonstration gone bad? But, I digress, that’s a small thing too?

O hates big business except when they are filling his campaign coffers.

PolitiFact has tracked over 500 O promises. He’s kept about 37% of them.

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“mick- I still can’t buy into the fact that one 90 minute debate convinced a sizable portion of the electorate to switch”

I don’t think it did. I think what happened is a lot of people who hadn’t made a decision, and who haven’t really been paying much attention…heard what they wanted to hear and decided on Romney. What remains to be see is if he can KEEP those people on his side through the next 2 debates and the rest of the campaign.

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The NBC/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll is showing that over 18% of Ohio voters have already voted.

Call it as you see it.

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With the exception of cutting NPR/PBS Romney beat Obama to the center left and stayed there.

Its sad how little conservatives know about politics and how much they love cheerleading (Bush and Romney were college cheerleaders, by the way).

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Jm: How Romney would govern: pragmatically, with a tilt toward conservative principles, and a focus on two things- growing jobs and fixing the deficit through spending cuts over time

Jm you just described President Obama! Except for the “conservative principles” oxymoron statement, you’ve described Obama to a “T”".

Ain’t it cool?

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“I will vote third party this year……..and then refrain from voting in any federal election from then on.”

That my friend is a vote for liberals. They appreciate your efforts.

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The polls clearly showed Mitt that he needs his party’s 47 percenters.

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“The polls clearly showed Mitt that he needs his party’s 47 percenters”

His party doesn’t have any 47%’rs. Didn’t you listen to that video? They are ALL going to vote for Obama

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mike thompson

Adoption isn’t an option?

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Yep Hate Romney but lets just love an administration that is full of lies, class warefare and big brother telling you what to do and when. I have seen a lot of administrations but never one like the present that is so full of lies and deceit along with law breaking. It is as if this administration has absolutly no respect for the citizen and then they are protected by folks like JAY. Romney moving to the center is the new main street media output but who knows. I have said this many times before the debate, before the latest polls…The citizens have a clear choice..vote one way for big government and big brother telling you want kind of vehicle to drive, how warm to keep your house in winter and how cool in summer, how big a house you can live in, how many miles you can drive your vehicle in a given time period or vote for a “CHANCE” to regain personal responsibility and freedom and have a chance at what has been termed the American Dream. Yep a clear choice no matter how you spin it.

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mike thompson- I can hardly wait until these right wing women that vote for Romney find out that their daughter or granddaughter has come home knocked up and the only option is a chothes hanger in the back alley.

I guess you missed the discussion yesterday.

Democrats luvs them some baby daddies!

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“Adoption isn’t an option?”

Only if you don’t mind the whole world knowing your daughter is sexually active, but not yet married.

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GM,

“Scumbag”? Were our shores kept safe by your guy or did he benefit from domestic security measures already in existence? I worked for Aon at the time…many of us know the pain of loss but I wish you could point me to some evidence that BO changed or otherwise improved our national security? I guess you can’t point to the middle east eh?

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Romney will say anything to win. This is a man without basic principals & integrity .
Power & Money are his Gods . You do remember his off-shore bank accounts .

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Debbie- Jm you just described President Obama! Except for the “conservative principles” oxymoron statement, you’ve described Obama to a “T””.

Outside of the “focus on jobs” and “spending cuts” part, you nailed that one…

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“The cons are going to have to put a new spin on their old lie now that someone has let the truth leak out.”

Where did all the live-blogging Drudge fan boys go? They were all over that story yesterday.

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Verbal Kint

October 11th, 2012
9:00 am

I do believe that “most” people on this blog already know who they are voting for. Do you?

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Stevie Ray,
I’ll step out of my pacifist persona for a minute and say that President Obama’s use of drones has done more to stabilize our threat than anything any other administration did. Cutting the heads off of snakes always helps.

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New jobless claims fall to 339,000. Lowest weekly number since 2008.

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Romney went and took Obama’s position on a number of issues, but like his buddy from Texas, he will not govern that way.

Romney will govern completely opposite from what he said in the debate.

You can bank on it!

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You are bascially busy trying to convince people to NOT vote for Romney instead of convincing people to vote FOR the president.

I nominate this for comment of the day! The is the truest statement made on this blog in a loooong time!

Kudos, Verbal Kint.

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kayaker 71

October 11th, 2012
9:03 am
You’re a hoot.

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Just remember: “It’s worked every time it’s been tried”. (the great political philosopher Limbaugh)

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its all just a big game… ex biden said a few years ago americans couldnt survive with gas prices being @ 2 a gallon… bush was horrible.. he had to do something.. now.. flying home from san fran.. i had to fill up that rental car on the way back to SFO at a price of 5.05 a gallon.. where is the outrage now?

guess this is a non issue.. i thought biden cared about the middle class? least he and obama said they did.. did they lie?

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Just for you, Stevie Ray, since your Google seems to be inoperative,

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration’s request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 — cutting back on the department’s request by $331 million.

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“In the news!”

In the news, Republican House admits to cutting embassy security funding.

Republican House outs a secret CIA mission.

Embarrassing. Incompetent.

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Still no thread on Libya. Maybe if just ignore it long enough, it will go away.

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Nice spin, Jay. It seems that you would equate “modern conservatism” with far right radicalism, but I would expect cries of “extremism” from the media. In fact, politics is more like NASCAR. You have to oversteer toward a particular point in order to wind up where you have to be. Obama did the same in the compromise in extending the tax cuts in exchange for something he wanted. In truth, for an R to be elected in Mass, he could only be a moderate, as I imagine we’ll find Romney to be. I consider myself conservative, but to me that means primarily fiscal conservatism with a socially moderate lean. We all know that extremes to both the left and right serve to motivate the base, but in reality, neither party can govern that way, or you get the gridlock we now experience. Whether D or R, presidents get the edges sanded down when actually governing. It’s far more about leadership and vision and one or two big ideas than about policy details. Remember too that 60% to 80% of voters consider themselve “in the middle” politically, myself included. What we’ll see from Romney is a focus on fostering a growing business climate with regulation, small tweaks in the tax system with little effect, little interest in the social issues, fiery rhetoric on foreign affairs but without a “rush to war” mentality because of both the financial and personal cost, and hopefully, the ability to bring both sides to the table to discuss the needed reform of the big three–Social Security, Medicare and Defense. Romney’s proven he can turn around bad situations before, therefore I believe that America will give him a chance.

If we ignore the speeches and slogans, and concentrate on what people have actually done, which is the best predictor of future performance, I think this choice is obvious. I’m not drinking any Kool-aid, but in my mind, a resume of solid success trumps a life of political “service.”

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New jobless claims fall to 339,000. Lowest weekly number since 2008

Don’t let the fact that fewer are actually working now than when O took office. But, feel free to spin it in any way you like…you usually do!

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In the news, Republican House admits to cutting embassy security funding.

Republican House outs a secret CIA mission.

Then they have a hearing while the House is not in session

Gee, i wonder why.

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Union

I started watching Morning Joe a few months’ back. I really enjoy the discussion and the variety of guests.

And I’m almost used to Mika’s subtle expressions. She doesn’t always talk back, those eyee rolls and that smirk are pretty effective.

Doggone/GA

Yeah, I’ve often wondered how much of this ‘protect my daughter’ is really ‘don’t embarrass me and my image as a parent.”

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So Mitt calls himself a conservative. So did Bush, and look what he handed to Wall Street before he left office. All Obama did was put the check in the mail.

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In fact, politics is more like NASCAR

I guess you could say that. Funny, you saw last week what happens when someone tries to block someone from moving up.

A big mess with a lot of damage ensues. I think you just nailed what the Republicans in congress have been doing for the last 4 years . Thank you .

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Stevie Ray,

Poor Wynn and Adelson. Their gambling revenues really took a hit during the great recession. They could really use your business.

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“Don’t let the fact that fewer are actually working now than when O took office. ”

Yeah, we Dems don’t count all those new retirees as part of the “unemployed” — what a shame for you Cons!

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You lose a total of 459 million dollars in funding and see how much help you can give.

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DOWN

I think the question, valid or not, is how did the unemployment rate improve when 800,000 got jobs with only 114,000 “new jobs”….also, U6 umemployment rate still close to 15%..who knows what the real numbers are..

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GG 9:03 – DATA FAIL. One state didn’t even report jobless claims. Bad data.

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“So Mitt calls himself a conservative. ”

And I recall just a few months ago, Ole Mitt called himself “severely conservative”… while standing in front of an extremist group of Cons, of course — oh well! Who knows where he’ll stand on any issue on any given date???

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In the news, Republican House admits to cutting embassy security funding.
“Republican House outs a secret CIA mission.
Embarrassing. Incompetent.”

This is exactly what I am referring about. The cutting of embassy funds would not stop a 9/11 birthday security upgrade IFindeed the funds were cut. Well in the minds of the uninformed provided by messages directed by DNC briefings the facts are forgotten if it does not fit the agenda. It was the video!

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TAXPAYER,

You forgot to mention that in the case of Wynn, he has given raises to all employees twice in the past couple years to offset the financial hits those folks have taken due to economic conditions and the concern over getting laid off..

More legs to your argument that BO’s treatment of business is not affecting investment etcetera would be appreciated..

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“on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being great and 1 being the worst
Romney is an 8
Obama is a 1″

My sentiments exactly!

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Georgia has dropped from number one to number six in foreclosures. Republicans should blame that on Obama too.

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DNC: Debbie (Pinnochio) Wasserman-Schultz’s GREATEST HITS… This is simply Amazing!

Wasserman Schultz: Wrong Statements About Libya Doesn’t Mean They Were False
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/10/wasserman_schultz_wrong_statements_about_libya_doesnt_mean_they_were_false.html

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I don’t believe conservatives are saying that we should cut taxes for the rich. Taxes for the rich are fine as they’ve been for a decade. Nor have conservatives clamored for no regulations. Find me the conservative Republican that believes in absolutely no regulations, and I’ll show you a strawman. As far as Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, that’s generational. Younger conservatives don’t care.

Those are great strawman arguments, but even if they weren’t, that doesn’t mean Romney isn’t still preferable to the other guy. That you rarely praise Obama, and spend most columns bashing Romney just shows how weak a candidate Obama is now. He can’t run on his record, he can only try to push false arguments about all the rights Romney has no interest in taking away.

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In fact, Romney doesn’t have a clue. He’s hoping to ride the trend line and, as the OMB recently said, watch as 12 million jobs are created — and, they’d be created over the next three or four years if Big Bird was the POTUS.

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Strange Beliefs

“Okay, what are you telling me? Is your religious reference guide the Bible or Book of Mormon?”

This isn’t about me. It’s about an honest evaluation of a belief system. I’d conduct an examination of Jewish beliefs, Catholic beliefs, Buddhist beliefs, New Thought beliefs in the same way.

BTW – whenever you ask (or are asked) a question constructed with “choose this OR that” you should get suspicious. No reason one can’t select both or reject both.

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Strange Beliefs

““The stoopid, it burns’ takes hold.

Nice way to word it!! You just made my day. Bible or Book of Mormon?”

As I said, I believe it was Bosch.

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USMC…great stuff..I submit the best is when she stated despite clear oral vote to the contrary the whole God inclusion to the DEM platform..

Taxpayer,

Can you offer a single credible source that anything Obama has done directly affected the favorable movement in GA foreclosure rate?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/may/25/crossroads-gps/crossroads-ad-says-obama-has-failed-stem-foreclosu/

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Stevie Ray,

I do not care about your speculation regarding the funding for security. I presented facts. Distort them as you will. As for Romney, he’s your man given that you really only have two choices and you most certainly are not going to vote for Obama. You are not as independent (politically speaking) as you would have some believe.

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…and don’t object to calling a spade a spade

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The Obama White House STIFF ARMS the Truth… “BenghaziGATE”…

Testimony: Obama’s State Dept Told Consulate To Stop Asking For More Security:
The former security chief for the US Consulate in Benghazi Libya testified today in the House of Representatives that the US State Department asked him to stop asking for increased security prior to the deadly terrorists attacks on Sept. 11, 2012
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/10/Former-Libyan-Security-Official-State-Department-Told-Us-To-Stop-Asking-For-More-Security

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Jay Carney Dissembles When Pressed On Libya Cover Up, Security Failures…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/10/Jay-Carney-Dissembles-When-Pressed-On-Libya

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How would Romney govern if elected? I seem to remember people asking that very question when George W. Bush tacked to the center after winning the Republican nomination in 2000 …

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Weekly jobless claims dropped to the lowest levels since Feb 2008, another sign that the job market is improving.

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

Of course you memory laps clowns dont want to give this great President for keeping you idiots safe, when Obama took over this country had code alerts at every area of transportation airports, trains.
Do you rememeber orange and red alerts? typical ungrateful bigots hateful Americans, Obama pull this country out the mouth of hell yet you nut bags backed the guy who helped send our jobs overseas.

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Beefcake
October 11th, 2012
9:30 am
…and don’t object to
calling a spade a spade
………….
Well, you could call it a
shovel and still be correct.

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barking frog

Yeah, but he sure brought a lot of enjoyment to the blog, didn’t he?

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Time after time after time Jay blasts Romney and hardly ever will even mention Obama,wonder why?

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The scary thing for you libs should be that the polls still aren’t accurate. As it stand today Romney would win by close to 10 points. No way will the dem turnout be close to 08′ but pollsters are still using that benchmark…

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Paul
Great contributor.

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Why are all you liberals so critical of the Mormon faith whereas Islam can do no wrong? These fanatic Muslims kill our ambassador and his security detail, attack our embassies, burn our flag, force us to create a dept of Homeland Security, make it necessary to spend billions beefing up our security and we don’t hear a word about them. Hell, we aren’t even allowed to call them terrorists. Mormons who haven’t killed anyone that I know of, do not threaten our security in any way and wear funny underwear and go on missions. I am not, nor will ever be, a Mormon. But the irony of this dichotomy is amazing.

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Don’t Forget

These numbers were fixed according to the right nut jobs, no other President in the history of the country has job numbers been quesion, but then again back in those days there were no racist bigots like 3 times high school drop out Rush Limbaugh.

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mighty

Did it ever dawn on you that all this campaign money from both sides is creating employment? Yes, romney is aiding his opponent in that regard…

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Funny and Depressing at the same time. Auto manufacturers are having to make lighter cars because Americans keep getting fatter. In part from driving cars. Ah, the irony…..

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Starting with the statistic that Americans’ weight gain is burning more than one billion gallons of excess fuel each year, Allstate and Cars.com have created an infographic explaining the complex struggle between fuel efficiency and passenger weight (check it out below). The short version: as automakers explore their options to meet ambitious federal corporate average fuel economy standards of 54.5 mpg by 2025, obese passengers make the efforts more complex.

The infographic, called “The Seesaw Battle of Fuel Efficiency,” looks at what automakers are doing to meet the 54.5 mpg mandate during a time when more than one third of American adults are obese. For the automakers, cutting down weight is important because every 100 extra pounds can cut fuel efficiency by up to two percent. To improve efficiency, automakers are reducing vehicle weight by using more lightweight, high-strength steel and lightweight aluminum. They are also changing accessories inside the car, such as using MP3 players instead of CD players, flash drives instead of owner’s manuals and air pumps instead of spare tires. To paraphrase Jay Leno, take out all you want, we’ll eat more.

http://green.autoblog.com/2012/10/10/challenges-ahead-to-reach-54-5-mpg-as-americans-get-heavier/#continued

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Romney schooling someone! He must be teaching a class on sophistry! Is his opening line to the class, “I built that lie and you can too!”

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usmc

Hey mr jarhead, I must admit that you are pretty tenacious in all your attempted assaults on president obama…too bad you haven’t been able to sustain a serious blow yet, just some dings and bruises. Keep working on it, there is a achilles heel somewhere but most likely that would be on the mittsiah…

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kayaker 71

“Why are all you liberals so critical of the Mormon faith whereas Islam can do no wrong? ”

Whatever in the world led you to believe those on this blog being critical of the LDS faith are liberals?!!?

From the tone, the links and the general mode of operation, I’d say they’re mostly evangelical or fundamentalists. Like Baptists.

Unless you’re making the case evangelicals, fundamentalists and Baptists are liberals?

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If you want to know who the “real” Romney is, examine what his dad, George did. Mitt was raises with his father’s ideals. Also, take a look at how Mitt governed Massachusetts. He is a moderate pragmatist. Always was. Still is. His positions are not very different from Obama’s. The biggest difference is that Mitt is an effective administrator and chief executive.

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Let me put to rest the fears those of you on the left have regarding race and president Obama. Obama’s dismal failure as president will not be blamed on the color of his skin. Unlike the lefties who’s vote is predicated on race, we on the right base our vote on the content of one’s character and their ability to do the job we are hiring them for. Obama’s failure has nothing to do with his race, He demonstrated dishonesty has nothing to do with his race. He will be replaced simply because he is a dishonest human being and a Marxist. His failure will not harm the chances of future minorities to become president, but the blind following of his ideals and dishonest charachter will.

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I’ve noticed that people here on this forum labor under the assumption that Obama is “left” or “center left”, which is manifestly false.

Obama is solidly center right. The inability to get that right handicaps much of the analysis not only in places like this, but among observers in the media and strategists in the two major corporate parties as well.

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The Ringmaster is now in overdrive with 3 anti-Romney postings a day now. What is more telling now is that the Ringmaster is concerned about the outcome of this election. All of his myrmidons are becoming more unglued at the mere mention of the Ringmaster’s concern and the Big Bird angle is being replaced with what will Mitt do if he is elected.

Relax, little liberals. Mitt will take care of what needs to be done for this country. He has his foot in the door and the American people are now on his side. Your painful squealing only makes things worse. You had your time in the sun and the only thing you accomplished was a bad sunburn.

All in all, I guess Super Mitt realized there’s more than one way to skin a cat. Let’s all sit back now and watch how Old Joe contributes to the demise of Camelot tonight.

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The evidence is piling up against Comrade Obama…

“WHAT did Obama know, and WHEN did he know it???”
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/10/Rove-Superpac-what-did-the-president-know

The evidence is mounting as more questions arise…

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Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

Have you ever thought about the thousands of voters who were to young in 2008 are comming out? my 401 looks a lot better now then it did 4 years under W, please dont ever quesion O on keeping America safe, here is a reminder.

Under W, 15 embassy were attacked, 3500 Americans dead in Ny, 4,00 American troops dead in Iraq, I dont think sane Americans want to go back to that”””

You wont be happy untill if elected Mitt will send all you poor, middle class whites to die in a war he will start while his sons take vacations,

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WELCOME

The ACA is clearly not popular to a convincing majority of americans but not because it didn’t go far enough..this is why, at least in my actuarial circles, why most americans want this to be modified or be completely overhauled..this is pretty sound data..

http://www.soa.org/Files/Newsroom/newsroom-aca-poll-results-0612.pdf

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kayaker 71

“Seems that that battery plant that makes batteries for the Chevy Volt is closing it’s doors……. after not producing a single battery.”

I’m sure you have a cite?

’cause I’m wondering what all those Chevy Volts are running on, if the factory didn’t make a single battery.

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Romney will be elected not by the country club republicans but because tea party patriots will hold their noses and do the right thing for the country. The course of this country needs correcting and the American people will respond.

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“Jm

October 11th, 2012
8:08 am
Normal

Apparently you can’t read or hear

Romney said he’s not cutting taxes for the rich”

Which Romney are you referring to?

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MSM, Obama Campaign Collaborate on False Abortion Attack on Romney…
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/10/MSM-Obama-Campaign-Collaborate-on-False-Abortion-Attack-on-Romney

It appears that Jay Bookman’s article yesterday came straight from the Party Operatives! LOL!

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It could be that modern “conservatism” was mis-defined in the first place…Although the Tea Party is part of it, they never took it over in entirety and was never more than a fraction of a faction…contrary to what the left would believe or how they have tried to frame the right

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Debbie Do
How are you? What’s on the
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We can dissect Romney’s statements all day – but the fact is he was the best alternative in the end to the whole batch of left/right (and in Ron Paul’s case wacko) candidates to do the job at hand. And the job at hand is to get Obama and his cronies out of office.

Obama stands for the takers, the morons and the counterculture (Occupy!) that is destroying America.

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GM,

And how has President Trillions performed for the african americans? There is no measure available to suggest they are better off than in 2008…since 2007, both poverty rates and unemployment in the african american population are materially worse..

Obama used his speech to call for stronger African-American families, saying, “If we want to stop the cycle of poverty, we must start with our families.”

But the percentage of adult African-Americans in poverty rose from 19.8 percent in 2007 to 23 percent in 2010, according to the Census Bureau. The percentage of African-American children in poverty rose from 34.5 percent to 39.1 percent in 2010. African-Americans’ formal unemployment rate jumped from 9 percent in June 2007 to 14.5 percent this August.

And the reality is worse: The percentage of African-Americans in the workforce fell from 58.6 percent in June 2007, down to 52.8 percent in August 2012. Less than half of young African-American men have full-time jobs.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/04/under-obama-african-american-unemployment-up-wealth-wages-political-influence-down/#ixzz2900zCrk9

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“Which Romney are you referring to?”

The one that’s going to win on November 6th.

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Hiya BF — I’m fine; Tonight is Thursday and I have a networking thingy to go to after work — you know the type, a bunch of professional women getting together and lieing about their accomplishments to each other! (Just kidding!! Please no feminist’s retorts!)

Tomorrow night I have a “date” with Dudley — taking me to a really good Brazilian Fusion restaurant that I LOVE! So, I’ll be taking a “siesta” from cooking for a few days, (I know my bro-n-law will be happy!)

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Unknown: Who are you calling bigots? Just because a lot (understatment) of folks want BO out of office doesn’t mean it’s because he is beige…that argument is sign you got nothing else to offer..

I know! Just because these same people SUDDENLY noticed that we were in debt for trillions of dollars as soon as BO took office, doesn’t mean ANYTHING!! It’s just coincidental.

In fact, all the bigotry and racism-slavery charges that continue to get play as there star becomes harder to defend will only serve the purpose of potential violence if the american people don’t grace him with another 4 years…you better vote cuz many of the young and minorities who voted in 2008 aren’t coming out..

What? Was that statement transcribed from another language and put into English? I doesnt make any sense.

How much better are the african americans after BO’s first 4 years?

Much better thank you.

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my favorite

“this is the most important election of OUR times”

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Welcome to the Occupation:

Are you serious? Obama himself is pretty center right, and the problem is that we just don’t know about where Romney really stands, but it is probably somewhat to the right of Obama though not too far, on most issues.
Sometimes I wonder how liberals think. Perhaps its being uninformed or maybe they are just plain stupid…

Completely wrong. It’s only unpopular to the extent that it did not go nearly far enough.
If this was the case then why wasn’t more far left loons elected in 2010 to go even farther. Bam! I just debunked you pretty good uh?

You’re probably right though in your predication of all the ways Romney will rubber stamp hard-right legislation.
You are correct on that assessment. But think about it. Its only the far left trying to paint Romney as a moderate. Why are Conservatives not spewing foam about it as the left are trying to do? Bookman is a prime example although he’s not taken seriously by most sane people…

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kayaker 71

October 11th, 2012
9:45 am

Seems that that battery plant that makes batteries for the Chevy Volt is closing it’s doors…….

Wrong again kayaker.

From fox news:
Workers at the Compact Power manufacturing facilities in Holland, Mich., run by LG Chem, have been placed on rotating furloughs, working only three weeks per month based on lack of demand for lithium-ion cells.
Randy Boileau, a spokesperson for LG Chem in Holland, told FoxNews.com that battery production is expected to pick up once Volt assembly lines in Detroit resume production on Oct. 15. He said the facility has spent the past two years building infrastructure and conducting pre-production “test runs.”

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DEBBIE,

African americans in terms of unemployment across the board, unemployment for youths and children born into poverty have all materially increased since BO has taken office..I’m sure there exists no shortage of exceptions but you can’t deny the facts..

I agree the deficit is nothing new and all in DC are accountable..however the fact that it has increased more in 3 years than in previous 8, regardless of where the blame may reside, it a much more succinct and understandable talking point than trying to explain “its not my fault”..

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DDR, dog whistles and codes are fantastic aren’t they? They allow those who use them and those who respond to continue plausible deniability. That is why we look for things that show the pattern. Disparate impacts, etc. Of course, they continue their denial despite multiple demonstrable showings of a large contigent of those who openly vent hatred, significant disparate impacts, less “intrusive” alternatives and repeated demonstration that this is not a “single” case. All that requires some hint of rationality, something that it is impossible for most of our cons to truly comprehend because they are so wrapped up in wild conspiracy claims without evidence or facts.

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GM

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443294904578044442604293814.html

What % of those additional voters are registered democratic? The difference in this fact is negligible..

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I was looking for something on AJC.com about the Lybia hearings yesterday

http://www.ajc.com/ap/ap/general/10-things-to-know-for-thursday/pjrSb/

http://www.ajc.com/weblogs/jamie-dupree/2012/oct/10/state-department-defends-libya-security-choices/

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I’ve got to say, reading all the right wing swill here has pretty much convinced me that an ‘Invasion of the Body Snatchers’ has taken over. ‘You people’, to borrow a description from ‘the first rich lady’, have devolved into the worst example of the worst of America…driven only by greed and prejudice and nurtured by ignorance and cognitive dissonance. If this – read Romney – is what you want running this country…and you succeed in getting him (and the men behind the cretin) in ‘official’ charge…then whatever positive example for the rest of the world we were supposed to represent will have been squandered – perhaps forever – and it’ll be on you…a fact that the rest of us won’t let you forget. By the way, you’ll find that whatever’s left of the Democrats in Congress can be just as obstructionist as your tea-partiers…can’t wait to hear how Romney will re-etch-a-sketch that.

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And moderate THIS !

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DDR,

I have not idea what you are saying about BO I can hire you comment..the fact is and regardless of who is at fault, african americans in the whole are not remotely better of in term of youth and general unemployment rate and kids born into poverty…are you suggesting otherwise, deflecting, or suggesting that BO is waiting on second term to reduce all this metrics with specifics he has yet to release…??

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about the Lybia hearings

…’course, maybe RB entered “Lybia” in the search field.

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Dirty Dawg = pinhead

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K71 — “Why are all you liberals so critical of the Mormon faith whereas Islam can do no wrong?”

Who says that’s what we think? I, for one have never said or thought any such thing.

In case you’ve forgotten, I’m an atheist, and from my perspective, christianity, judaism, wicca, islam, shinto, animism and buddhism are all cut from the same cloth. That said, it’s people’s RIGHT to believe whatever damnfool creation myths and Enchanted Man In The Sky tales they want.

From where I’m standing, K71, a christian like you talking smack about islam is as ridiculous to me as a Star Trek fan holding forth on why Captain Kirk is superior to Captain Picard. It’s just pointless bickering about fiction as far as I can see.

If you want to see me diss some muslims here on the board, then get some over here to post. Maybe you can get into a pizzing match with them and I can nibble on Cheetos and laugh at you AND them.

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StevieR: I didn’t ask the question…

Oops! My bad!

his gloating is an affront to all those still suffering who are not remotely better off..

You know that’s really funny coming from you Stevie R. When the jobs report came out four weeks ago and they were HIGH, you were so gleeful about those numbers I thought at one time you were stroking your……..keys…..and typing at the same time.

of the 15% of those out of work, underemployed or stopped looking, how many of those would say they are better off?

Better off than the alternative? The same stupid policies that got us in this mess int the first place? I’d say ALL of them.

Of course most of those who blog here are not suffering..what difference does that make?

Unlike our Conned counterparts, the majority of the people who do blog here CARE for their fellow man. They’re not trying to take away what little they do have, like UI Benefits, Food Vouchers, School lunches, etc; or calling them moochers and loosers.

We actually UNDERSTAND that they’re in pain — and not just mouthing inannities like a puppet with Rush LimpBalls hand up their azz.

Just saying.

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Romney flip flops yet again.

“Delaware, Ohio (CNN) – Mitt Romney sought to clarify his position on abortion Wednesday, saying as president he would move “immediately” to de-fund Planned Parenthood.”

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But we can say that if Romney had tried to win the primary on this new moderate stuff, he would have failed miserably.

And we also can say that the very same conservative Republicans who were recently complaining loudly when Mitt was losing with their ideas are now saying nothing at all.

So does this tell us that they’re just waiting to see if he will be elected, after which he’ll belong to them again like during the primary?

I don’t see any other way to read it, Jay, do you?

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k71:

“Obama doesn’t pick the winners and losers. He just picks the losers.”

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By the way, you’ll find that whatever’s left of the Democrats in Congress can be just as obstructionist as your tea-partiers…

meh, if the Dems fail to hold a Senate majority, you can bet your bottom dollar that, with Mitt in the White House, those venerated Senate rules would change mighty fast.

(and even if they didn’t, any GOP shyness about significant bills being “rammed down our throats” through budget reconciliation, would magically disappear.)

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“Delaware, Ohio (CNN) – Mitt Romney sought to clarify his position on abortion Wednesday, saying as president he would move “immediately” to de-fund Planned Parenthood.”

More specific than “Forward”

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GM,

Its great that thousands of african americans have an improved lot…without this, the continued unfavorable trend in jobless and poverty may have been a fraction of a percentage point higher…

As they say in my program…keep coming back!

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Joseph: “Its only the far left trying to paint Romney as a moderate”

Do you have examples of that? I am probably what you would characterize as “far left” and I’m certainly not painting him as a moderate. I frankly don’t know where he fits on the spectrum and I suspect we won’t know until we get a year or two into his administration.

Stevie Ray:

Those figures on ACA really don’t say much if you ask me. It’s clear that people are largely just guessing here; they don’t really know. No one really does. I do find it interesting that that last question about the extent that the uninsured will be reduced under ACA. I took from the survey choices that no one was contending that the number of uninsured would grow or stay the same, which is interesting don’t you think? Even if the number of uninsured only comes down modestly, that’s something, right? I think that says something that the people framing the questions don’t even deny that ACA will at least cut into the no. of uninsured at least some.

Also, the question about whether ACA can stand if the mandate falls gives away the game, too. Sounds to me like the responses confirm my point that people want the benefits of it to stand, even if they are squeamish about the mandate itself.

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b-troll: Here’s what Obama means by forward:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ar3s6KWCMAA5NZg.png:large

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DebbieDo
Good for you. Glad you and
Dudley are hanging on.
Military and Marriage need
high levels of tolerance
from both people. You can
do it. Professional associations are good too.
Keep on cooking!

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Krystal: Jay’s a good man. I would block them.They really do pollute his blog.

Well, they’re good for his “numbers”; even if what they’re saying sounds more like the braying of jackasses then real speech.

StevieR: African americans in terms of unemployment across the board, unemployment for youths and children born into poverty have all materially increased since BO has taken office..I’m sure there exists no shortage of exceptions but you can’t deny the facts..

How about the fact that BO doesn’t own a company, and can’t single handedly HIRE all the people who don’t have jobs? How about another fact that every time he’s tried to propose legislation to GENERATE jobs, Republicans have blocked it? How about one more fact — Republican congress ran on a platform in 2010 of JOBS, JOBS JOBS!!! And haven’t even TRIED to propose comprehensive legislation to enact on their promises?

And before you pull out that tired line about “The DEM SENATE!!!!!”; please be advised that I’ve actually SEEN some of those proposals, (SoCoBro hooked up to their website and showed it to us); and not one bill, let me repeat, NOT ONE BILL, that the repugs initiated had ANYTHING to do with jobs. The only JOBS listed in any of those bills was in the heading, NOT in the language of the bill.

I agree the deficit is nothing new and all in DC are accountable..however the fact that it has increased more in 3 years than in previous 8,

that has been disputed, on this blog, so many times that I won’t even deign to post YET AGAIN, the link that proves that statement a lie. It’s just a waste of time — I’ve come to the conclusion that you cons LIKE being conned. It must be something in the DNA.

StevieR: I have not idea what you are saying about BO I can hire you comment..

See statement above.

the fact is and regardless of who is at fault, african americans in the whole are not remotely better of in term of youth and general unemployment rate and kids born into poverty…

However they are STILL better off under Obama then they’d EVER be under another Dubya Clone.

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Keep: All that requires some hint of rationality, something that it is impossible for most of our cons to truly comprehend because they are so wrapped up in wild conspiracy claims without evidence or facts.

Word!

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Romney motto: “Reverse”

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Mary Elizabeth: “I think what that switch basically shows is that many of the American people are impressed by aggression and that they will accept “surface reality”

I think I would disagree with this assessment.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people are nothing like us. They do not spend their days writing on blogs and thinking about the ins and outs of policy. To be blunt: the vast majority of people do not know what to think, don’t know what they really think about issues. Their heads are filled with vague contradictory scraps of more or less shallow pseudo-facts about things and they lack a larger reference point for bringing it all into focus. For this they look to politicians and parties to show some soft aspect that appeals to them, usually it’s some vague criterion like “tough guy” firmness, strength of character, etc.

So when they see a president come out after 4 years in office and get confronted by a guy who is obviously playing fast and loose with facts (people don’t know exactly how he’s being fast and loose, they just can sense that that’s what he’s doing) and all the president can do is bumble, shrug, and look constipated, it has a devastating effect on their confidence in him.

The depressing fact is (or encouraging depending on your standpoint) that people are attracted to even a shady character like Romney even if they disagree with him or distrust him, if he can show bravado and a certain brazen courage. That’s what Romney showed to brilliant effect. And frankly I’m not sure Obama will be able to recover from it, or more to the point, if I think he even should be able to.

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jerbs SHEETZ

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I believe most people believe whatever the last thing that came out of Romney’s mouth is where he stands.

Same for Obama. So, Romney’s strategy is to just keep talking and hope the right points fall on the right ears.

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I agree Mary E. And with the Dems taking back the House and remaining in control of the Senate, we should see less obstruction.

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Welcome to the Occupation

October 11th, 2012
10:48 am
MC: “He’ll govern from the center Jay. He has a history of that”

Frankly we just don’t know how he’ll govern.

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is this Obama or Romney thats being talked about????

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StevieR – then I apologize. Perhaps I misunderstood your response as gleeful. Again, my bad.

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Mary E: think what that switch basically shows is that many of the American people are impressed by aggression

Of course! That’s why they re-elected that village idiot Dubya! He said, “I’m a WAR President!!”; and every sadist, (who didn’t actually HAVE to go to war); dang near wet themselves with joy.

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BF — Dudley and I are “talking”. His family (sons, parents, sister), asked me had I ever told Dudley that it was time for him to leave and come home BEFORE I started talking divorce. I told them No. If that is what he wanted to do I didn’t want to stand in his way.

They all looked at me like I was a fool. Even his ex-wife, Brenda, was like, “He LOVES you. If you told him how you really feel, he’d do it for you”.

So, I told him I no longer wanted to be a single married lady. I wanted a husband to show off to all of my single girlfriends; and with all the turmoil in the middle east, I didn’t want him to go back — i’d rather be a divorcee than a widow.

So, like I said, we’re trying to find a middle ground. I don’t want him to resent me for giving him an ultimatum but I can’t live a half-life anymore.

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troll: More specific than “Forward”

Republican 2012 Slogan — “BACKWARDS!!!!” — Yes, very specific…

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Gee, stands, I guess the new “journalism” standard it to have to search the archives to find a photo with only a caption and a blog entry on the story. At least they have the Pizza Hut debate issue covered with a top billing for you liberals to wring your hands over.

You know, stands, if you set your standards low enough, the school newspaper at your local elementary school will meet them.

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This just in: Romney has gained 8 points in California. CALIFORNIA! What is the world coming to? (granted, O still holds a 14 point advantage)

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“We have K71 here, Willieb, Stevie and some guy called USMC ……………. if they hate everything Jay says and everything that he writes, why are they here instead of on Kyle’s blog?”

To add truth to the biased media and let others know they should never depend on Jay and his media for their only source of information. does that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

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Welcome to the Occupation, 10:44 am

“So when they see a president come out after 4 years in office and get confronted by a guy who is obviously playing fast and loose with facts (people don’t know exactly how he’s being fast and loose, they just can sense that that’s what he’s doing) and all the president can do is bumble, shrug, and look constipated, it has a devastating effect on their confidence in him.”
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I agree with you on that statement, above, Welcome, in that our President did not perform well in the debate. But the debate was a low ebb for him and does not represent his values nor who he is. Also, I agree with you that most Americans are swayed, unfortunately, by projections of “bravado and brazen courage” – which Romney displayed – more than by policies.

Many analysts believe that Americans vote with their “guts,” or their gut reactions to candidates, more than with their minds. We both agree, I think, that that is what has happened in the change of polls which reflect such a dramatic change in the American public since the debate. If you notice, however, your words of choice of “bravado and brazen courage” are not far in connotation from mine of “aggression and dominance.” I simply go further in the negative connotations of all of those words which I described through the detail in my post.

The reason that I went further than you, in saying that many Americans value aggression and dominance, was because I believe that this nation has been fairly equally divided into two basic sensitbilities for the past 50 or 60 years. I also believe that one of those sensibilities will emerge as the prevailing sensibility (at least for the next few years) through this election. I have described previously on this blog those two sensibilities that face Americans – one is a more “muscular” sensibility that values dominance and control, power, wealth, hierarchial status among people. The other is a sensibility that values collaboration, service, egalitarian and intellectual/spiritual enlightenment. Of course, the real truth is that all of these values ebb and flow in all of us daily (both categories of values) but I believe that, in the course of human events and evolution, the less muscular and more enlightened values will ultimately prevail. Maybe not in my lifetime, but ultlimately. “The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice..” MLK

My brother told me, just a day or two ago, that our father had told him, “You cannot work for both money and servitude (service to others) at the same time; you must choose one or the other.” Ultimately, the world will have to choose; not just individuals. One fosters life and one fosters death, in my mind, in a metaphysical sense.

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Colorado-based Abound Solar received a $400 million stimulus loan guarantee then went bankrupt. Obama really knows how to pick the winners and losers doesn’t he? (mostly the losers, as the next President has already pointed out)

Another one or two Abound Solars or Solyndras and we’re gonna be talking about some real money! I bet it’s Big Bird’s fault!

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“The other is a sensibility that values collaboration, service, egalitarian and intellectual/spiritual entitlement.”

I corrected your error too!

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“I bet it’s Big Bird’s fault!”

So you believe in giving 400 plus million dollars to big bird after he makes 300 plus million profit?

That makes you a sound liberal economist.

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Hi Debbie, I just wanted to say “hello” to you, and wish you a good day, ahead!

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LIBERAL BLUE BOOK
RULE 93

when you have been given a setback and you are worried your candidate is in trouble……….. don’t use logic and reason…………. claim racism and allude to it…………. make your opponent try to defend themselves from baseless claims………. make up stuff if you must………… but never REPLY to their REPLY…………… do not engage……… only make accusations………… then act superior

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Is that the pub right off Cobb Pkwy that always has those racists comments on their sign and a bunch of motorcycles out front Don? Some of the comments about Latinos they put there are disgusting.

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The good news is the rightwing is headed toward extinction. This is the 21st century after all.

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This is another example of why I can’t abide with the right wing anymore.

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A freshman congressman running for re-election on a pro-life platform urged his pregnant mistress to get an abortion a decade ago, according to a transcript of the recorded conversation.

The undated phone recording appears to have been made before Republican Rep. Scott DesJarlais’ divorce from his wife, Susan, was finalized in 2001. According to the transcript, DesJarlais tells the unidentified woman that he is concerned that she hadn’t taken steps toward terminating the pregnancy.

“You told me you’d have an abortion, and now we’re getting too far along without one,” DesJarlais is quoted as saying. “If we need to go to Atlanta, or whatever, to get this solved and get it over with so we can get on with our lives, then let’s do it.”

DesJarlais on his website espouses a platform that opposes abortion, saying: “All life should be cherished and protected. We are pro-life.”

Do as I say do…not as I do. My morals are situational when they personally effect me. Too much rhetoric not enough walking the talk.

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There was never a W, 911 never happen, two wars never happen, we woke up and there was mean old Obama saving American lives and jobs in Ohio, Mich, such a bad President how dare him be concern about other Americans.

Obama what a bad President how dare this guy bring our troops home from Iraq after 4,000 lives lost, what a terrible President, how dare his guy make America safe for 4 years, there should of been more attacks.

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Mary Elizabeth. I don’t disagree with those sentiments generally speaking. But ultimately none of these things are possible without radicalism and militant confrontation. We need much more militancy.

Black Friday at Walmart anybody?

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How will Romney Govern, well, if he has the Republican Extremist majority that’s controlling the 112th congress now then his Governing will be Extreme. Romney just goes with the flow and that flow right now and most likely if he’s elected, would be Right Wing Extremism. Then look out, all the Social Programs will be on the chopping block. Those are Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Pell Grants, Planned Parenthood which he said he would end if he’s elected, Gone! Affordable Care Act, forget it, Gone. All those programs and more used by those 47% that Romney has already said he doesn’t care about. There are two programs that you can count on Romney installing and that is to give the Wealthy that 2% Tax Cut, the Tax Cut that will cost the American People Trillions of dollars! And to give Corporations a Tax Cut, a Tax cut they don’t need because most of them avoid paying Taxes now through loopholes. A Romney/Ryan ticket, is a disaster waiting to happen for this Country and the American People.

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NO WAY he would actually govern by these new “beliefs”. He can’t hide his true self.

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