Romney prospers by stiff-arming modern conservativism

The polls remain tight, with several national pollsters giving Mitt Romney a small lead for the first time. Viewed strictly in terms of political science, rather than partisan politics, it’s a fascinating and rather sudden turn of events.

And what does it mean?

I think it’s fair to say that should Mitt Romney end up winning the presidential race, his victory will be a repudiation, rather than a validation, of modern American conservatism. I don’t know how else to interpret the fact that Romney was losing the race, badly, right up to the moment in the first debate that he ran fleeing from conservativism like a 12-year-old girl fleeing a Halloween haunted-house attraction.

Look where he stands today in terms of policy, compared to a few weeks ago, and the contrast is stunning:

He has pledged to the world that he won’t cut taxes, and most important of all he would never cut them for the rich. He also promises that he won’t do a thing about trying to outlaw or restrict abortion, and like Obama, he’s not going to kick out illegal immigrants brought here as children.

He won’t reinstate “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” and his health-care plan is going to cover those with pre-existing conditions. His “47 percent” comments, he tells us now, were “just completely wrong,” and he won’t reduce spending on Medicare or Social Security and he won’t cut education either. He’s even in favor of government regulation because “you can’t have a free market work if you don’t have regulation.”

Every single one of those newly packaged positions contradicts or seriously compromises an important conservative position. He and his advisers — in this case reportedly his wife and eldest son — came to the wise conclusion that he could not win otherwise, and the market has confirmed their wisdom.

The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. I don’t have a clue on that one.

– Jay Bookman

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Jm

October 11th, 2012
7:48 am

Romney: doing what it takes to win so he can fix America

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 11th, 2012
7:50 am

“The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. ”

He wouldn’t govern.
He would be a heavily starched stuffed shirt figure head.

Who’d be pulling the strings? The Koch Brothers, Sheldon Adelson, Karl Rove, Tony Perkins, etc….

Jm

October 11th, 2012
7:51 am

At least Romney doesn’t want to raise taxes, unlike Obama

stands for decibels

October 11th, 2012
7:52 am

The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. I don’t have a clue on that one.

I do.

He’ll be slightly less bombastic than GWB on foreign policy matters, but he’ll still screw things up and send Freedom Bombs to spread democracy, and we’ll be cleaning up that mess after he’s gone.

He’ll appoint Federalist Society-approved stooges to the judiciary, ensuring that landmark legislation passed by the next generation of progressives will be castrated, and the Republic’s inevitable slide into second-tier status by the 22nd century will be hastened.

Ok, I don’t actually know this with 100% certainty; I’d say I’m only about 90-95% certain of this type of outcome.

and the reason I feel so certain is that despite the flip flopping, and Mitt’s supposedly moderate past, this machine that’s elected him and got right wing legislators and judges in place is much bigger than he is.

Jm

October 11th, 2012
7:54 am

How Romney would govern: pragmatically, with a tilt toward conservative principles, and a focus on two things- growing jobs and fixing the deficit through spending cuts over time

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
7:55 am

JAY,

First, my suggestion that intelligence budget was cut by clinton is true however it was Congress (Bernie Sanders as leader) who pushed the cuts…he just went along for the ride…

Re Romney…who cares? What if he is moving more center? That may be a good thing despite typical cries from the other side that he will carry his “change of state” message if in WH…I think it would be ideal if whoever wins (this really crappy job) has to deal with a congress that is controlled by opposite party…if it is possible to get to compromise and get anything done and provide congress a modicum of respect…those dynamics at least have a chance…

Paul

October 11th, 2012
7:55 am

“I think it’s fair to say that should Mitt Romney end up winning the presidential race, his victory will be a repudiation, rather than a validation, of modern American conservatism.”

Which was, a few short years ago, the radical right of the Republican Party. The social and foreign policy neocons. But what now constitutes, in the Party’s mind, ‘real’ conservatism.

Anyone to the left of that is a RINO, fake, a fraud, a sellout, not a ‘real’ Republican. But that is precisely where Romney goes to secure the vote of most of America.

And as Jm noted, they don’t care. They really don’t care. So long as they win, they’ll ignore a lack of adherence to philosophy, no moral political grounding, no consistency in thought. Just plain ignore it. Just so long as their guy wins, they don’t care.

That, to me, shows the utter depravity of the modern conservative Republican Party.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 11th, 2012
7:57 am

jm,
You can’t be that naive. Romney will have to raise taxes on the middle class to help pay for the tax cut for the rich. Mitt cares about two things. Taking care of his own kind and money…and not necessarily in that order.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
7:59 am

STANDS,

“Freedom bombs”? What about the 10,000 RPG’s the state dept admitted where unaccounted for in Libya that we provided? I guess the drone attacks that you are so proud of don’t qualify as Freedom Bombs?

Regarding judges, spoils go to the victor..fact of life..

May be better than the failed BO can offer…too bad we don’t know his real plans but he is doing a great job keeping the focus off those trivial details…his skills of deflection are masterful in a class similar to his oratory skills…

Either way, nothing will change except hope…

Paul

October 11th, 2012
7:59 am

Morning, Granny

I’m not so sure. So Romney doesn’t have a firm political core. I say ’so’ because he strikes me, deep down, as a pragmatic problem solver. So what I’m hoping is when he gets all the parties together Boehner will look at him and think “what’s he going to jettison now? What’s he going to give up?” and Reed will look at him and think “he’s going to reverse course on A, B and C and then ask me in front of all these people, if Republicans will compromise like that, why can’t I compromise on D?”

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 11th, 2012
8:00 am

Years ago……..I seem to remember Bookman proclaiming the death of Conservatism.
Are Americans repudiating a corspe?
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It makes no difference who wins the White House in that only a minority of Americans fall for the dog and pony show elections.

Americans who value personal liberty, peace, and basic decency outnumber all of the statists combined…And we don’t repudiate conservatisism or libertarianism. We repudiate Romney.
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Forward Liberty!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:01 am

NORMAL,

Fair enough but aside from raising taxes on the evil rich (he has done a great job casting them as the root of all problems….such bad people) which will address about 2% of the issue, what else does he propose..

Where do you see that it is certain that Romney will increase taxes on the middle class…however they may be defined???

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:01 am

” this machine that’s elected him and got right wing legislators and judges in place is much bigger than he is.”

THAT is a point to not take lightly. Just hope there comes a point when Romney goes back to his cultural roots and says ’screw it. I’m going to do what I think is right and let whatever follows, follow.”

stands for decibels

October 11th, 2012
8:02 am

Romney will have to raise taxes on the middle class to help pay for the tax cut for the rich.

Well no, he doesn’t. He can evolve get religion on the glories of deficit spending (particularly if he has to drop some Freedom Bombs) after a few months in office.

Remember “lucky me, I hit the trifecta?”

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:03 am

Thomas Heyward Jr.

“I seem to remember Bookman proclaiming the death of Conservatism.
Are Americans repudiating a corspe?”

No.

If the polls are any indication, Americans are embracing Romney and repudiating (as did Romney) the corpse that is modern Republican conservatism.

stands for decibels

October 11th, 2012
8:04 am

What about the 10,000 RPG’s

Since you asked? I’d propose cramming them up the backsides of online concern trolls.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 11th, 2012
8:04 am

Jay-

Are you going to do the live update/commentary of the debate tonight? That was kind of fun for the first debate. Crazy old Joe is a survivor, I think he may surprise tonight.

stands for decibels

October 11th, 2012
8:04 am

…and with that bit @ 8.04, I’m probably gonna get moderated out, so I best plan to come back when it doesn’t stink so bad in here.

Jay

October 11th, 2012
8:08 am

Yes, we’ll be putting up a blogpost sometime around 8 p.m. for tonight’s veep debate, and then add to it live in real time.

Jm

October 11th, 2012
8:08 am

Normal

Apparently you can’t read or hear

Romney said he’s not cutting taxes for the rich

#normalfail

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:09 am

granny- He wouldn’t govern. He would be a heavily starched stuffed shirt figure head.

ROFLMFAO!!! Thanks for getting the day off to such a good start.

obama says,”What?”

Vote obama: A Chicago crook run by other crooks. Do I have time to get in 9 holes before my next fundraiser?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:11 am

THOMAS

We are birds of a feather…except I see zero reason to give BO anymore time and money to waste on failed policies with no real plan to fix anything except stating that he can’t fix DC from the middle and that we somehow need to do this ourselves..how can we compete with big money?

Romney is not a better choice but I think the fodder provided him in past few days greatly outweighs the big bird-evade the issues, approach…

Jay

October 11th, 2012
8:12 am

” Just hope there comes a point when Romney goes back to his cultural roots and says ’screw it. I’m going to do what I think is right and let whatever follows, follow.”

And what in Romney’s behavior makes you think that he is capable of such a thing? For me, that’s the issue right there.

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:13 am

stands- he’ll still screw things up and send Freedom Bombs to spread democracy, and we’ll be cleaning up that mess after he’s gone.

Yeah! We all know obama doesn’t bomb anything. You can tell those other countries love us by the way they burn our embassies…

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 11th, 2012
8:13 am

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:03 am

Thomas Heyward Jr.

“I seem to remember Bookman proclaiming the death of Conservatism.
Are Americans repudiating a corspe?”

No.

If the polls are any indication, Americans are embracing Romney and repudiating (as did Romney) the corpse that is modern Republican conservatism.
——————————————————————————————-
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Yes Bookman did lead out an article.
Conservatism is dead.
I think it was when Clinton was elected.
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And at the MOST…….only 25% of Americans will vote for either Romney or the Obama.
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25% of the American moronic vote will take the rights away from the rest.
That’s just wrong.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:13 am

STANDS,

Congratulations! Another outstanding post! Did you learn the deflection technique from President Spineless? Can’t think of a better role model..

At least you admit that you got no game and can’t stand the “stink”…your beef is weak

Jm

October 11th, 2012
8:15 am

The independently wealthy won’t be working for their donors.

Romney will be working for the American people. All of them.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:16 am

THOMAS,

What support can you provide that the DEMS have no hand for the completely ineffectual state our government is in?

My assessment is that our government is a man slowly be ravaged by cancer and all this BS election crap is simply two equally inept parties arguing whether the soon to be corpse should be hidden behind a blue or red dress…

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 11th, 2012
8:17 am

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am…

October 11th, 2012
8:11 am

THOMAS

We are birds of a feather…except I see zero reason to give BO anymore time and money to waste on failed policies with no real plan to fix anything except stating that he can’t fix DC from the middle and that we somehow need to do this ourselves..how can we compete with big money?
——————————————————————————————————–
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Please do not suffer under the illusion that I am for the Obama.
I will vote third party this year……..and then refrain from voting in any federal election from then on.
It’s rigged and I’ll not give my consent to crooks.

Bishop Mitt Romney

October 11th, 2012
8:17 am

JDW

October 11th, 2012
8:18 am

“The question, of course, is how Romney would govern if actually elected. I don’t have a clue on that one.”

Why just like he has run…whichever way the wind blows

straitroad

October 11th, 2012
8:18 am

Jay, why not write about some real news at this point? We all know you disagree with Romney and think he’s not playing fair. Now, with that point having been established, why not write about something that’s acutally newsworthy such as the situation in Benghazi? You could pretend a republican was in office if it will help you to be truthful in your assessment.

Peadawg

October 11th, 2012
8:18 am

I could seriously vote for this new version of Romney.

The problem is I don’t believe this is the real Romney. I don’t know what to believe with him.

Mickey Mouse/Donald Duck ‘12

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:18 am

-I don’t know how else to interpret the fact that Romney was losing the race, badly, right up to the moment in the first debate that he ran fleeing from conservativism

Massachusetts: The home of Conservatism.

Here’s your sign.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:19 am

JAY,

I agree that Romney’s game includes the typical bait and switch which is a hallmark for political gain…how is it that his bait and switch is materially different from BO’s countless promises (talk about saying anything to get elected) he made…is it better to switch positions of ourright lie about your intentions?

gtt

October 11th, 2012
8:19 am

Clue? Here’s the answer: Better than the incumbent. That’s why the turnaround in the polls.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:21 am

THOMAS,

I feel the same way…regardless of whether or cancer ridden federal failing government is shrouded in red or blue..nothing will change and hope is…..well BS..

H. West

October 11th, 2012
8:21 am

Wow…for once we agree Jay.

The Alinskyite left has so hobbled the conservatives in this country that the so called ‘conservative’ candidate is a pale shadow of the ‘liberal’ candidate. The have successfully defined and framed all political discourse so that true conservative positions on immigration, economics, entitlements, and other issues can’t even be discussed, much less acted upon. So you are happy that the society of gutless, mindless worms that the modern media and public schools have produced can’t possibly vote for anyone who has rational ideas about how to preserve the great republic that our forefathers sacrificed everything to build?

Now that’s a true accomplishment…congratulations!

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:22 am

Jay

About the only thing that leads me to that hope (more than a conclusion) is an article I read some time back that said Romney thinks that now is the time that it is finally possible for a Mormon (I’ll use that term now as it flows better than LDS) to become president and he wants, above all, to be the one that does it.

It’d take a whole slew of behaviorists, psychologists and theologians to sort thru the implications of subverting your core to attain a ‘good’ goal, but if we reduce it to Romney looking at winning the presidency, in and of itself, as a problem to be solved, then once he’s solved that problem he does not need to keep the strategies that got him there. It’s like acquiring an ailing company and turning it around. You make it profitable, you sell it off. Just like he may ’sell off’ what he needed to get to the presidency.

Just looking for any possible faint ray of hope in all this, Jay.

Jay

October 11th, 2012
8:23 am

“how is it that his bait and switch is materially different from BO’s countless promises (talk about saying anything to get elected) he made…is it better to switch positions of ourright lie about your intentions?

Perhaps you can document this long list of changed positions to get elected? And please, spare us things like closing Gitmo, which he attempted to do but was barred by Congress. List issues on which he has dramatically altered his position. I can think of one — gay marriage — and on that issue he can plausibly argue an evolution over time, which is how almost all Americans who support gay marriage arrived at that position. Twenty years ago, the notion was considered far-fetched.

Manchurian-Kenyan Candidate

October 11th, 2012
8:23 am

“The polls remain tight, with several national pollsters giving Mitt Romney a small lead for the first time. Viewed strictly in terms of political science, rather than partisan politics, it’s a fascinating and rather sudden turn of events.”

….quite simple really. There was a large contingent of “reluctant” Obama supporters who were waiting for an excuse to turn on the Dear Leader. After Romney thoroughly thrashed the Great Orator and wasn’t anything like the buffoon the liberal media portrayed Romney to be….they defected en masse

Not surprising at all

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:24 am

Funny quote..is it shape of things to come? By estimates of voter turnout, BO has some real problems..

Millions of voters may now have packed their bags and moved out, after a whirlwind romance with President Obama and a relatively short marriage marred by unemployment, constant arguing, name-calling, signs he never much liked them, anyhow , and one of those terrible nights…

indigo

October 11th, 2012
8:24 am

“I don’t have a clue”

Romney will receive millions and millions of votes, may win the election, and yet, not ONE SINGLE ROMNEY VOTER will have a clue as to how he will actually govern. This “anyone but Obama” mentality has occured for a variety of reasons, none of them good. Lying propaganda and racism, just to name two.

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:24 am

Thomas Heyward 8:13

Thanks. I misunderstood your original post to read Romney was the corpse.

Child, please

October 11th, 2012
8:25 am

Other than abrogating duties of enforcing laws (as the Executive Branch is tasked to do by law) he doesn’t like, constantly stumping for re-election for four years, and apologizing for American actions all over the world for four years and saying everything is our fault, I’m kind of waiting to see how President Obama “governs” as well (”I don’t have a clue on that one.”)

Nice closing line as it is so apropos for both sides. Problem is that one of them has been at the controls for 3 years and 9 months). I’ll take the unknown over the known. This President has been about a D, Americans would be very happy with a B or C (not much worse with an F)

Fly-On-The-Wall

October 11th, 2012
8:25 am

This what is so disturbing about Romney, he will do & say ANYTHING to be elected. Who knows what he will really do. At this point all it looks like is that he is flat out lying to get elected. At least most politicans will try to polish the turd a bit but not Romney. He just keeps handing out more turds.

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2012
8:25 am

“Jay, why not write about some real news at this point”

blogspot.com is ready when you are

Fly-On-The-Wall

October 11th, 2012
8:29 am

Dang, my English are terrible. ;-) No coffee yet…need to get some……………

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 11th, 2012
8:30 am

Stupifying to see conservatives celebrating Mitt’s repudiate of conservativism as a “victory”. If elected, Mitt will likely pander to whatever groups he thinks will help his ratings and then get him reelected… and then whatever will help him get a nice library.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 11th, 2012
8:30 am

You wouldn’t hire a guy that bald-faced lied on his resume would you?

Oh, I guess conservatives will….

rwcole

October 11th, 2012
8:31 am

What if the real Mitt Romney has just crawled out of the conservative trojan horse 3 weeks before the election?? The ‘Massachurian candidate’ just might be a RINO, or even worse, pragmatic and smart. You know that won’t make the base happy.

killerj

October 11th, 2012
8:33 am

You never had a clue in the first place my friend.

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 11th, 2012
8:33 am

Perhaps you can document this long list of changed positions to get elected?
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marijuana
.
that’s not a changed position.
That’s a lie.

Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)

October 11th, 2012
8:33 am

Romeny should just say “I’m the white Obama!”

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:33 am

indigo- yet, not ONE SINGLE ROMNEY VOTER will have a clue as to how he will actually govern

I call this “Hope”. obama has proven himself incompetent. Why would anyone with two brain cells to rub together ever vote for that clown?

Romney isn’t my first choice either, but I have lawn furniture that could do a better job than obama has.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:33 am

JAY,

Sure…of course I’m not suggesting he broke promises as opposed to changing positions…same in my book..

“the days of lobbyist controlling DC agenda are over…”
He promised to pursue criminal charges against Telecom and Wall Street…then he got their money..
Allow 5 days of public comment before signing a bill
Transparency
End income tax for seniors making less than $50K
He promised to let tax breaks for fat cats end
We are going to ban all earmarks…i think the ACA had about 9,000

Thoughts? And don’t blame the GOP which he decided before his inauguration to stonewall…many of these where broken during the years he had DEM control of congress

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:34 am

rwcole

What we’ve seen here and elsewhere is, as long as someone, anyone, beats Pres Obama, they really don’t care.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")

October 11th, 2012
8:34 am

You may actually be right (no pun intended) on this one, Jay. However, we would be better off electing a labrador retriever over the marxist/fascist/liar/incompetent (thank God on the last one) we have in there now.

Goldie

October 11th, 2012
8:35 am

Americans can never trust a greasy, oily slimeball like Mitt.

Obama/Biden 2012! :)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:37 am

Sorry, I’m suggesting he did bait and switch by breaking promises which in my book is same as changing positions…although many including wall street, telecom and lobbyist were, to a large extent forgotten with cash exchange..

Mitt Romney's Strange Mormon Beliefs Exposed

October 11th, 2012
8:37 am

Mick

October 11th, 2012
8:38 am

I still can’t buy into the fact that one 90 minute debate convinced a sizable portion of the electorate to switch. No, it is a great narrative to be sure, but beginning tonight see if the needle is being threaded for a comeback starting with biden going after ryan’s vulnerable budget. I still believe that this is obama’s reace to lose and…he will prevail in the end…

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:38 am

obama has said he can’t change Washington from the inside. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-insiders/post/obama-admits-he-cant-change-anything/2012/09/21/3a3101bc-03f4-11e2-9132-f2750cd65f97_blog.html

Let’s grant him his wish, and let him work from the outside again.

Save America! Vote anyone but obama!

Shine

October 11th, 2012
8:40 am

Some leader Romney would be. He doesnt have a position on anything anymore except signing what is sent to him. That is leading? Sounds like a puppet. And dont forget that kokok Paul Ryan. His positions may now be what Romeny says they are but as vice prez he will have a tie breaking vote in the Senate. Do people want that extremist with that power in the Senate?

indigo

October 11th, 2012
8:41 am

JKL2 – 8:33 “I call this hope”

I call it whistling past the graveyard.

TaxPayer

October 11th, 2012
8:41 am

There are obviously millions more left-leaning Republicans out there than originally believed given Mitt’s jump in the polls once he started leaning left. I think Mitt is actually presenting himself as left of Obama according to his most recent policy positions. Republicans do love their lyin’ candidates. All Mitt and Paul have to do is tell their conned-stituency what they want to hear and the polls have clearly identified that message for them. Suckers. There’s millions of ‘em born every minute in the PITY Party.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:42 am

Union

October 11th, 2012
8:42 am

@ jay,, i realize you may a little liberal in your views.. but what is your take on the growing concern that the unemployment numbers that went from 8.1 to 7.8 are now being referred to as a statistical fluke?
I caught an article in the ny times and it seems there is more and more head scratching going on..

lynnie gal

October 11th, 2012
8:43 am

We don’t know which Romney will show up on Pennsylvania Avenue should he win but my guess is that we will be so confused by all his stances on issues that even four years into a Romney administration we still won’t know where he really stands on issues. He’ll farm out governing to right wing idealogues and repudiate what they do when it’s unpopular, yet let them run amok, destroying social programs and starting new wars which Romney will repudiate and yet stand beside them. It’s gonna be a very schizophrenic time for Americans should this man win the presidency.

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:43 am

Strange Beliefs exposed

What I’m waiting for is why you believe G-d would turn himself into a person, then kill himself, then raise himself from the dead, have his followers pretend they’re eating him, why He would call everyone his children then torture them forever, that kind of stuff.

And you have the nerve to think other people have weirdo beliefs?

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:44 am

mick- I still can’t buy into the fact that one 90 minute debate convinced a sizable portion of the electorate to switch.

The polling companies have to produce numbers that are closer to being accurate as we get closer to the election. Otherwise they lose all credibility against their competition and lose out on future elections.

With the clock winding down, they can’t prop up obama like they have the past several months anymore.

jconservative

October 11th, 2012
8:47 am

I have seen candidates step toward the middle but never have I seen a candidate take this big a jump to the left. So we are down to making a decision on something besides political ideology since both are now in the center.

So do I vote for the Kenyan or the Mexican? That is the question.

Second, defense announced that they have troops in Jordan and have had them there since early summer. I guess Obama still believes that the US is the world’s nanny.

gm

October 11th, 2012
8:47 am

Obama was on the radio saying make sure you people who has ruled him out. stay tune next Tue.

Obama set the lier up for this debate, he still has a lead in Ohio those people have sense to know they would be unemployed if Obama had not steped in and saved there jobs, Obama has been consistant, and still has non white males votes around the country.
Mitt sounds like a Dem, he proves satan will say and do anything to gain power.

USMC

October 11th, 2012
8:47 am

“Romney prospers by stiff-arming modern conservativism”–JAY BOOKMAN

Jay, you are starting to sound a little DESPERATE.

Comrade Obama still has the great advantage of political corruptness:
-Votes from Illegal Alien and Dead People.

And don’t think he won’t use them. :-)

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:47 am

Shine- His positions may now be what Romeny says they are but as vice prez he will have a tie breaking vote in the Senate. Do people want that extremist with that power in the Senate?

Yes!

I know it’s true because Harry Ried’s friend called and told me it was…

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:48 am

Union

It’s a good example, as Jack Welch put it, of “I don’t really have anything to back this up, but doesn’t it seem strange” musings developing into a conspiracy.

Here’s a good article that cuts thru the hype and gets down to the nitty-gritty of the process the government uses, as well as the reason for the seeming disparity between unemployment rates and job growth.

“How the Government Compiles the Jobs Report”

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/10/05/4314835/how-the-government-compiles-the.html#

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 11th, 2012
8:48 am

UNION

Can you provide the link to NYT unemployment article?

DownInAlbany

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

and on that issue he can plausibly argue an evolution over time

Bawwwwhahaha

Gay marriage, it’s just a small thing, so, it’s ok for O to change his mind. I guess he “evolved” on cutting the deficit in half as well? Oh yeah, it’s those dang Republicans blocking him from doing so. I would venture to say that in order to cut the deficit, one should have a budget in place. Republicans again, you say? Funny he couldn’t get a single Dem to vote in favor of it either.

Was it a terrorist attack or was it a demonstration gone bad? But, I digress, that’s a small thing too?

O hates big business except when they are filling his campaign coffers.

PolitiFact has tracked over 500 O promises. He’s kept about 37% of them.

mm

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

“Romney: doing what it takes to win so he can fix America”

Yeah, just like Bush did.

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

“mick- I still can’t buy into the fact that one 90 minute debate convinced a sizable portion of the electorate to switch”

I don’t think it did. I think what happened is a lot of people who hadn’t made a decision, and who haven’t really been paying much attention…heard what they wanted to hear and decided on Romney. What remains to be see is if he can KEEP those people on his side through the next 2 debates and the rest of the campaign.

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

indigo- I call it whistling past the graveyard.

A vast improvement over your current “stick my head in the sand” strategy.

Vote obama: You were dumb enough to fall for it last time!

jconservative

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

The NBC/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll is showing that over 18% of Ohio voters have already voted.

Call it as you see it.

mike thompson

October 11th, 2012
8:49 am

I can hardly wait until these right wing women that vote for Romney find out that their daughter or granddaughter has come home knocked up and the only option is a chothes hanger in the back alley.

Not a Neal Boortz Redneck

October 11th, 2012
8:50 am

With the exception of cutting NPR/PBS Romney beat Obama to the center left and stayed there.

Its sad how little conservatives know about politics and how much they love cheerleading (Bush and Romney were college cheerleaders, by the way).

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2012
8:50 am

“Second, defense announced that they have troops in Jordan”

Observers, not troops

DebbieDoRight - Prez. O = 2.5M Jobs; Repug Congress = 0. You do the Math

October 11th, 2012
8:51 am

Jm: How Romney would govern: pragmatically, with a tilt toward conservative principles, and a focus on two things- growing jobs and fixing the deficit through spending cuts over time

Jm you just described President Obama! Except for the “conservative principles” oxymoron statement, you’ve described Obama to a “T”".

Ain’t it cool? :cool:

gm

October 11th, 2012
8:51 am

jconservative

Scum bag like you make me wish Obama had not made this country safe the last 3 years, scum like you should have been in the 911 area to see how this country was under attack and how the last killer President was repected even though he never deserved it.

Williebkind

October 11th, 2012
8:51 am

“I will vote third party this year……..and then refrain from voting in any federal election from then on.”

That my friend is a vote for liberals. They appreciate your efforts.

Mitt Romney's Strange Mormon Beliefs Exposed

October 11th, 2012
8:52 am

Paul, whatever? It is all in the way that the Mormon Missionaries are taught NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH. Check it out for yourself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3I6t3VodO4

TaxPayer

October 11th, 2012
8:53 am

The polls clearly showed Mitt that he needs his party’s 47 percenters.

jconservative

October 11th, 2012
8:54 am

gm October 11th, 2012 8:51 am

“jconservative

Scum bag like you make me wish Obama had not made this country safe the last 3 years, scum like you should have been in the 911 area to see how this country was under attack and how the last killer President was repected even though he never deserved it.”

Thank you for the compliment gm. Made my day!

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2012
8:54 am

“The polls clearly showed Mitt that he needs his party’s 47 percenters”

His party doesn’t have any 47%’rs. Didn’t you listen to that video? They are ALL going to vote for Obama

Williebkind

October 11th, 2012
8:55 am

“I can hardly wait until these right wing women that vote for Romney find out that their daughter or granddaughter has come home knocked up and the only option is a chothes hanger in the back alley.”

Here we go again, the shrills, the lies, the uninformed spreading the gospel of progressive liberalism.

Paul

October 11th, 2012
8:55 am

mike thompson

Adoption isn’t an option?

DannyX

October 11th, 2012
8:56 am

“That my friend is a vote for liberals. They appreciate your efforts.”

Yes, the new Mitt Romney appreciates your efforts.

Cosby

October 11th, 2012
8:57 am

Yep Hate Romney but lets just love an administration that is full of lies, class warefare and big brother telling you what to do and when. I have seen a lot of administrations but never one like the present that is so full of lies and deceit along with law breaking. It is as if this administration has absolutly no respect for the citizen and then they are protected by folks like JAY. Romney moving to the center is the new main street media output but who knows. I have said this many times before the debate, before the latest polls…The citizens have a clear choice..vote one way for big government and big brother telling you want kind of vehicle to drive, how warm to keep your house in winter and how cool in summer, how big a house you can live in, how many miles you can drive your vehicle in a given time period or vote for a “CHANCE” to regain personal responsibility and freedom and have a chance at what has been termed the American Dream. Yep a clear choice no matter how you spin it.

Union

October 11th, 2012
8:57 am

@ Paul 849 – thanks for the link.. great read.. i guess the funny thing for me was the day they announced i was watching msnbc and everyone was looking around the table going.. “uhhh” how did it drop so fast? (they needed more starbucks i guess)

JKL2

October 11th, 2012
8:57 am

mike thompson- I can hardly wait until these right wing women that vote for Romney find out that their daughter or granddaughter has come home knocked up and the only option is a chothes hanger in the back alley.

I guess you missed the discussion yesterday.

Democrats luvs them some baby daddies!

TaxPayer

October 11th, 2012
8:57 am

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

The cons are going to have to put a new spin on their old lie now that someone has let the truth leak out.

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2012
8:57 am

“Adoption isn’t an option?”

Only if you don’t mind the whole world knowing your daughter is sexually active, but not yet married.