New jobless claims plummet, now below long-term average
According to the Labor Department, initial jobless claims fell to 339,000 last week, a decline of 30,000 from the previous week.
That’s notable for several reasons. First, it’s the lowest weekly total since February 2008. It’s also a 16.3 percent decrease in initial jobless claims from the same week a year ago, and perhaps most importantly, it is lower than the long-term average of 363,460 jobless claims filed per week.
There are reasons to be cautious. One-week fluctuations are not long-term trends, and economists would be more reassured if numbers in the next few weeks continued this trend. But as the chart below clearly indicates, jobless filings peaked in March 2009 — two to three weeks after passage of the stimulus bill — and have been steadily declining ever since.
UPDATE: From CNN, another reason for caution:
Much of the drop last week was caused by an anomaly, a Labor Department analyst told CNNMoney. One state posted a large decline in claims, which is not typical during the last week in September.
The drop probably occurred because that state didn’t fully process end-of-quarter claims, the Labor Department analyst said. If that’s the case, it’s possible initial claims could shoot back up next week, once those claims are processed.
US Initial Claims for Unemployment Insurance data by YCharts
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Thomas
October 11th, 2012
1:55 pm
Thanks Jay- when you grow up and write an informative (it can still be biased) blog then skimming is the desired path of the blog. Let’s see:
Jobless claims plunged to 339,000 this week, putting them at a four-and-a-half-year low and drastically lower than the 370,000 economists expected, the Labor Department announced today. But there was a fly in the ointment. A department spokesperson said that one large state accounted for a large portion of the decline, the AP reports. A Wall Street Journal report indicated that the state “didn’t report additional quarterly figures as expected.”
A CNBC correspondent later tweeted that the mystery state appears to have failed to process “its typical seasonal workload,” Business Insider reports. Weekly job numbers are prone to volatility anyway, the department noted. “Throw out the number and we’ll try again next week,” one trader tells CNBC.
hmmm- what is it like to be your age and pretend to be a girl on the sideline cheering her home team?
Maybe share with your facebook followers that Rs are not the only tax schemers?
The Internal Revenue Service urged a bankruptcy judge to reject solar panel maker Solyndra LLC’s bankruptcy plan Wednesday, saying it amounts to little more than an avenue for owners of an empty corporate shell to avoid paying taxes.
“The undeniable conclusion is that tax benefits drive this plan,” attorneys for the IRS wrote in a bankruptcy pleading.
Arguing that the bankruptcy court ought not confirm a plan “whose principal purpose is tax avoidance,” attorneys said in filings in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware that the tax breaks would be worth more money than funds set aside for creditors.
Taxpayers are on the hook for more than a half-billion dollars after the company filed for bankruptcy last year, just two years after winning a loan guarantee from the Department of Energy.
What’s more, government attorneys said that as far back as 2010, Solyndra owners had “planned meticulously” to be able to use Solyndra’s net operating losses to offset future tax liabilities.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
1:56 pm
Zillow.com, you will get a graph of your home, your zip code and your cities average value. Is it 100% correct? No, but it is pretty darn close most of the time.
My own experience and that of many in the real estate markets are that zillow is often dramatically wrong.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
1:57 pm
“But they dont have the matching wife beater. And the overhanging roof”
keep up,
You’re slipping up sir. Not on top of your game. If you were you would have added “and a house on wheels”. You got to remember that in the liberal world its always fashionable to mock poor white people.
Rightwing Troll
October 11th, 2012
1:58 pm
I don’t understand the huffing and puffing… well actually I do…the economy has been improving for quite some time, the unemployment numbers were bound to follow the same trend, improving, as in getting better…
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
getalife@1:35 – Sticks and stones, remember. If the power goes off at your trailer, you will then really have to GETALIFE!
Doggone/GA
October 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
“Yes, none of my houses are worth what they once were”
You guys buy the wrong kind of house! You should buy manufactured housing like I do. They depreciate every year, just like a car…so you don’t even NOTICE if they go down a bit more because of the economy!
Now my property is worth pretty much what I paid for it 15 years ago. Hasn’t changed in value one way or the other.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
Wrong is what the cons do daily.
They are consistent in being wrong.
They should self reflect to see what they are doing.
Cheering against a good US economy.
Just pitiful.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
1:59 pm
The uproar is that it dropped that precipitously in one month and that this one month just happens to be 5 weeks before the election. I heard [assertion without link support so who knows--it could just be spam mail "factiness"]…. This is why such a significant drop given the terrible economic climate is simply not realistic. The numbers don’t make any sense when looking at it in relation to economic history.
Birthers: The NEW jobbers.
southpaw
October 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
As we have been reminded repeatedly in recent months, tax avoidance is legal.
Tax *evasion* is not.
—————————————-
Well said. Can’t argue with the legality, but is tax avoidance also the right thing to do? Hint: for another example of tax avoidance, as opposed to tax evasion, see an almost endless number of posts about Mitt Romney’s tax returns.
godless heathen
October 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
Voting day should be VOTING DAY!”
I never vote early. Might learn something on the last day that would would make me think I should have voted differently.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
0311 — “2) “Early voting is not good for the country. It would be similar to having a jury trial where half-way through a couple of jurors stood up and said, ‘We’ve heard enough. Let’s vote!’.”
So you’re saying that Romney has a few flip-flops yet to go and that we should wait to vote until after he’s completed his gymnastic routine.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
“[T]he single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term President.”
– Mitch McConnell
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
SOMEONE needs to be held accountable for the lives lost in Libya.
I spent a career planning raids, search warrant executions, “buy/busts”, arrests, etc., etc.
Had “anyone” been hurt or killed during one of those endeavors my every action as a supervisor before and during would have been scrutinized and I WOULD HAVE BEEN HELD ACCOUNTABLE if I had failed to follow policy or exercise due caution.
I expect no less from our State Department.
“Who knew what, when did they know it and what did they do about it” !!!
Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
JAY,
I concede that aspect of our discussion but did come across this little diddy from your queen Pelosi..
PELOSI: It’s also important to note that the Republican appropriation in Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security.
BLITZER: Are you suggesting that there was a financial aspect to what happened in Benghazi, Libya. That the U.S. was not enough money to protect American diplomats?
PELOSI: No what I’m saying is Congress has the right of oversight but it also has the power of the purse. … We also have to look to ourselves for that funding question. $300 million less than what the administration asked for.
I guess the State Departments lack of response to requests for additional security didn’t go upon deaf ears due to a lack of available funds..Seems successful although talking point for DEMS but irrelevant to the tragedy at hand..
The DEMs are trying to provide talking point to a GOP talking point…I think DEMS laying blame back on the GOP for poor actions taking on DEM watch is tough sell…Given the fires burning in the ME, the GOP talking point will trump DEMS deflection of blame..
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Rightwing Troll & Joseph-
If you guys are into R.E. we have a small club that meets at the Golden Corral in Cumming the first Tuesday of every month. The club doesn’t charge but you need to buy the buffet from GC. It is a small but very experienced group that is active in the market now. We usually have guest speakers and then we talk as a group. You will find us in the meeting room.
Keep – Yeah it depends upon the area.
Jay
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Stevie, from the Washington Post:
For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for theState Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.)
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:01 pm
Tom,
I live in a house.
Wrong as usual tom.
You are consistent.
GT
October 11th, 2012
2:02 pm
Romney uses a line, I find interesting. He tells the crowd how bad things are and then he trails off with “and that is the only reason I am running for President, to help you”. I think back at his run four years ago when he indicates that he is riding this horse because he is the only one that can ride it. If he was so uniquely made for this day this moment, of near depression, with plans he thinks are too delicious to share, what bug got up him four years ago, before all these perfect conditions of misery came face to face with the perfect man. The only reason he was running then had to be another only reason, this one had not developed yet or had it. As Bush ran the government, maybe this white knight saw the pain Bush was going to lay on us and said “Ma these people need me, I think I am going to run a couple of times for president and in six or ten years from now I am going to fix these people’s problems, whatever they may be.” The only reason he is running…
Now lets hope the economy doesn’t fix itself before this poor man can take the credit or even get elected.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
2:02 pm
You got to remember that in the liberal world its always fashionable to mock poor white people
Doomy Boo Boo false claim defense evidences his own prejudices and issues.
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
2:03 pm
Blame Libya on the Republicans for cutting the defense budget, but, could it have anything to do with priorities? Apparently, the State Department denied access to the DC-3 utilized by the Special Forces, but, spent $108,000 on a charging station for the Vienna fleet of Chevy Volts. Talk about screwed up priorities! I’m sure someone on here has an excuse for this, too. Don’t ask for a link…do your own research…google is a good start.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
Stevie,
Are you upset your party cut the funding and out a CIA facility in their political hearing?
Do you think they should be held accountable?
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
TD @ 1:57
Tom is a liberal? See is 1:59
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
“Birthers: The NEW jobbers”
Liberal playbook.
Play no. 1- If you can’t refute the con argument with facts then resort to kamspam.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:04 pm
…the simple fact is home values have plummeted under the Obama administration…
You know I’ve noticed that too.
When you pump tons of toxins and poisons into a body of water over a long period of time it takes an even longer period of time before that water is even remotely clean again.
You Bushbots let your beloved plutocrats and their paid off proxies in Washington poison the American economy – to the point where it hemorrhaged $10,000,000,000,000.00 and millions and millions of middle class jobs, basically overnight – and now you rubes don’t like the results.
Boo friggin’ hoo, mike.
You and your unemployed and underemployed/minimum wage Republican children, parents and neighbors deserve exactly what you voted for.
You were thrown overboard in 2008. Get ready to swim some more in a little over three weeks…
DebbieDoRight - Prez. O = 2.5M Jobs; Repug Congress = 0. You do the Math
October 11th, 2012
2:05 pm
UCMj – I don’t know who you’re trying to fool. You post everything BreiFart says, with glee, and repeat any and everything coming out of Drudge.
Since you are the resident BreiFart Drudge Half Man Puppet I’d figured you’d be used to having things stuck in you for fun. My bad. Sorry.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
2:05 pm
SOMEONE needs to be held accountable for the lives lost in Libya
You mean like Bush was held accountable after 9/11?
Sometimes bad things happen
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
The cons are out of control like their party.
President Obama pushed them over the edge.
Unhinged indeed.
Obama is over
October 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
Housing prices have been improving on a national basis which is good news. The bad news is that access to home mortgages is much more difficult for most consumers since Dodd-Frank. New mortgage origination is at a 16 year low. The legislation has yet to clarify how banks are supposed to book home mortgages on their balance sheets. Thus the mortgage industry is dominated by 4 “too big to fail” firms with the largest balance sheets which completely undermines Dodd-Frank’s purpose of controlling systematic risk. Because the banks don’t know how the regulators are going to view home mortgages on their balance sheets, the vast majority of home loans are government guaranteed through the GSE’s. FNMA/FREDDIE have lost in excess of $180B since 2008 and FHA announced last week that they are going to go to Congress to request a $1 B loss bailout after the November election. The Obama administration offers no solutions to the housing crisis. As a desperate measure to show some progress, Obama sued J P Morgan for $29B last week for poor underwriting done by Bear Stearns. Of course, J P Morgan was forced to buy Bear Stearns in 2008 by the Federal government. Taxpayers financed that deal with a Geitner $23 B loan. Only in Obamaland would the government sue a division of a company that the government forced the company to buy in the first place- all at taxpayer expense.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
southpaw — “Well said. Can’t argue with the legality, but is tax avoidance also the right thing to do?”
Our cons seem to maintain that it is.
“Hint: for another example of tax avoidance, as opposed to tax evasion, see an almost endless number of posts about Mitt Romney’s tax returns.”
I’m aware of them; I participated in some of those discussions.
DownInAlbany
October 11th, 2012
2:09 pm
Nope, hold Clinton accountable. He’s the one that let them in. How long had Bush been in office when 911 occurred? How long did it take the ragheads responsible for the attack to get their pilots license?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:09 pm
How are your 401k’s doing cons?
Thank President Obama for that cons.
DebbieDoRight - Prez. O = 2.5M Jobs; Repug Congress = 0. You do the Math
October 11th, 2012
2:09 pm
Apparently, the State Department denied access to the DC-3 utilized by the Special Forces, but, spent $108,000 on a charging station for the Vienna fleet of Chevy Volts. Talk about screwed up priorities! I’m sure someone on here has an excuse for this, too. Don’t ask for a link…do your own research…google is a good start.
And then, the Blue Fairy said to BreiFart, if you believe with all your heart it will come true! So BreiFart believed as hard as his cold little heart could and then, just like that, he was turned into a real Boy!!
–Excerpt From Tales From The Darkside AKA Republican Fantasies & Bedtime Stories.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:10 pm
“Birthers and skewers and jobbers (and now ringers). OH MY!”
–Thomas Jefferson
GT
October 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
DownInAlbany I spent that much on fuel alone last year, and have nothing to show for it, how bout you Albany you burning those country roads up, with your high price fuel and now you have to spend some more to get back home. That 109,000 was well spent money, next question.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
Keep, you must have forgotten!
Scout repeatedly and forcefully denounced George Walker Bush for the 2,996 American deaths and 6,000 injured on 9/11.
He doesn’t play silly and intellectually dishonest games with such matters…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
How is our auto industry doing cons?
Thank President Obama for saving that industry.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
ragheads???????
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
2:11 pm
getalife – Sorry dude, that was mean of me. Sometimes I get you, Fred(MIA), and Jamvet mixed up? You are all good people but probably belong on the short bus. Oophs, there I go again, can’t help myself, when I visit the liberal rock quarry site.
They BOTH suck
October 11th, 2012
2:12 pm
DowninAlbany
Do you blame Bush Sr for the 1st bombing of the WTC? After all, it took place two months after Clinton took office.
I’m sure you are consistent, so if you blame Clinton then surely you blame Bush Sr, right?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:12 pm
Jobless claims fall to a four year low with gop obstruction failed.
Thank President Obama for that cons.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
DownInAlbany — “ragheads”
Flag on the play.
Racist f**ktardery, ten yards.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
DowninAlbany, was George Bush responsible for anything?
LOL…
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
7.8 % unemployment huh? big high fives around the white house…………Whoops….No California Numbers in there. The largest state in the country. A state bleeding jobs everywhere…..Awh, those silly little details. The 7.8 is out there for all to believe it’s working…Our big plan……..Geez, Cover ups, bad unemployment numbers…..move along…nothing to see here…..
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
getalife – I have to respond, you are wrong again. Obama did not save the auto industry, he saved the AUTO WORKERS UNION!!!!!!!!
Drudge
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
Oops – turns out that not only were last week’s numbers totally cooked, but we are missing quarterly data from a large state this week. Funny how after the debate debacle last week, all of a sudden, the BLS just started throwing positive news out! Yay Democrats! How’s that Libya thing going too? Yall manage to get on the same page yet? Carney said it wasn’t a video, 23 minutes later, on the other coast, Obama is saying it was…someone is lying, who ever could it be?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
… the ragheads…
There’s your sign.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:13 pm
JHM, to bigots like him the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:14 pm
Tom,
I know, you are inflicted with the mental defect called conservatism.
I pity you and try to tolerate you but it is getting old.
DebbieDoRight - Prez. O = 2.5M Jobs; Repug Congress = 0. You do the Math
October 11th, 2012
2:15 pm
Nope, hold Clinton accountable. He’s the one that let them in. How long had Bush been in office when 911 occurred? How long did it take the ragheads responsible for the attack to get their pilots license?
How long did Dumbya hold on to those CIA briefing reports that told them that Bin Laden was planning something? How long did the then National Security Advisor Rice, hold on the the belief that RUSSIA and not the extremeists in the Middle East were about to strike at the U.S.?
Observation
October 11th, 2012
2:16 pm
When I read the comments on Jay’s blog from the Repubs and go over to Kyle’s blog and read his, I am confused as to why they come over here and complain about Jay and will not go over to Kyle’s to help him get his stats up! He needs you all over there…stop making yourself miserable over here by trying to compete with the intellegent Democrats!!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:16 pm
Our country passed the first health care bill.
Thank President Obama for that.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:17 pm
Auto Industry saved. There is a legal process to save companies in this country. It’s called bankruptcy……But oh no, the Unions would be screwed with lighter contracts….Ain’t it so.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:17 pm
aq is close to defeat and obl is dead.
Thank President Obama for focusing on the enemy.
Mick
October 11th, 2012
2:18 pm
**someone is lying, who ever could it be?**
Err…the mittsiah has done a fine job of it…no one can really pass the snow white purity test, no one…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:19 pm
Libya is free and daffy is dead.
Thank President Obama for that.
b-troll
October 11th, 2012
2:21 pm
“How is our auto industry doing cons?
Thank President Obama for saving that industry.”
Yeah, only cost $300 or $400 per taxpayer. No big deal……
Mick
October 11th, 2012
2:21 pm
Im a
Only a person or conned wanker like yourself would be rooting for lower wages…china must be your final destination…
Regnad Kcin
October 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
“Yeah, only cost $300 or $400 per taxpayer. No big deal……”
Link, please.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
We are out of Iraq and ending the other failed occupation in Afghanistan.
Thank President Obama for that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
It’s called bankruptcy……But oh no, the Unions would be screwed with lighter contracts….Ain’t it so.
Odd that I heard no screams for LTCM to go bankrupt when Greenspan deemed them “too big to fail”.
I guess it’s a different set of rules for vulture capitalists. IOKIYAR. Ain’t it so.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:22 pm
Of course the fascist cons hate that millions of good American jobs were saved.
Think of all that money that could and should have gone to Communist China, India and Singapore!!
It’s enough to p*ss off any good Republican…
Drudge
October 11th, 2012
2:23 pm
Don’t freak out but you are losing in even the most skewed polls. Funny that you show how totally incompetent you are on national television and your numbers tank. Is it too late to get Sandra Fluke to run a little misdirection?
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:23 pm
We will nation build America.
Thank President Obama for that.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
b-troll — “Yeah, only cost $300 or $400 per taxpayer. No big deal……”
If only Mitt and his homeys down at the country club had paid a bit more in taxes . . .
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
The Chevy Volt is one of the worst business decisions ever made in corporate history. Encouraged by a president who had no business running a car company but had an endless amount of money to make a point, a group of sycophants blue smoke up his ass to convince him that the Volt had a future. That’s all it took. Initial projections were 40k cars/yr. To make these 40K cars, GM had to spend close to 50K each to produce them. That’s about 20M and change to put them on the market. The initial MSRP was a bit over 39K. That put the car out of reach for the market it was intended to appeal to. That meant that they lost 11K for every one they produced. Then the plan went to hell when no one wanted to buy one. That started the rolling furloughs which went on for months on the assembly line, costing more money in union wages when they were not even working. They are just going to power up the assembly line starting 15 Oct. Then the real whammy hit when they only sold 7600 of these glorified golf carts because no one wanted to buy them. That put the battery plant that made the batteries for these sorry excuses for a car out of business at a cost to the American taxpayer of an additional 150M.
GM stock is at mid twenties now and will need to double in value for them to pay off their debt to the taxpayer. Don’t hold your breath. Meanwhile over 50% of this joke is owned outright by the unions as a payback for their political support for Bozo’s election efforts.
I SAVED GENERAL MOTORS,,,,,, Bwhahahahahahahahah
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
Latino children do not fear of being deported.
Thank President Obama for that.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
Government motors losing 40K for every Volt being pushed down peoples throats. Anybody remember the GM Bond holders…..I know, invest at your own risk right. Who knew Chavez was taking over.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:25 pm
“Drudge” — “Don’t freak out but you are losing in even the most skewed polls.”
As if you have the least clue how to conduct survey research.
Drudge
October 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
@Observation: Intelligent Democrats? Perhaps you should have a look at how registered Dems & Repubs compare in education & income when you get done mopping the floor…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
Women got a equal pay act passed.
Thank President Obama for that.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
K71 — “That put the battery plant that made the batteries for these sorry excuses for a car out of business ”
Breaks my heart to see an Army officer spread lies and misinformation.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:27 pm
mitt lied and said our President does nit have a record to run on.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
I have found that those who complain the most about having something pushed down their throat are the same ones who will swallow anything.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
Obama Prez time at the days pass….TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Drudge
October 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
Joe Hussein – I actually know a lot about it and Pew, Gallup and even Rasmussen have been overly skewing Dem based on 2008 trends and reciprocal data from the census. Even so, in national polls O is down an average of 2 across the board.
How did I do? Tell me how you conduct poll research when you get a second.
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
The economic liberals are so mentally lacking the only part of the equation they can wrap their little minds around is the hated labor unions.
That for every union job saved there were10 downstream non-union jobs saved doesn’t matter to them.
Hitler said that labor unions must be crushed and they agree. And like him they will work to outlaw them…
Speaking of labor hating fascists, it explains why they are probably going to lose Ohio…
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:28 pm
mitt lied and said he will help the middle class.
The gop only votes to help the wealthy that does not need any help.
Observation
October 11th, 2012
2:29 pm
Drudge
October 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
Kyle is calling. He did the same piece on Charter Schools and none of you were there to help him out. Check out his posts!!
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 11th, 2012
2:29 pm
getalife – Correct me if I am wrong(1st time in my life). Conservative(me) = saving and Liberal(you) = give away?
NyKisha
October 11th, 2012
2:29 pm
“…his victory will be a repudiation, rather than a validation, of modern American conservatism.”
Wake up and smell the hanging chads, Jay. Most of us are not conservatives, or liberals, but independent moderate types hovering around the middle. THAT is where the critcal mass of votes are and Mitt knows it.
Any candidate unwise enough to get into bed with either extreme of the lunatic fringe – think George McGovern and Newt Gingrich – will just be a historical footnote.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
How did I do? Tell me how you conduct poll research when you get a second.
Uh, oh.
Drudge is about to get pwned.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
The only thing mitt stands for is cutting PBS.
Everything else he says is subject to change.
b-troll
October 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
Regnad. Do the math. Bailout cost at least $25 Billion as of now and could go much higher. There are about 100 million taxpaying filers in the US.
That amounts to $250 per taxpaying filer at current cost estimate, which is probably too low.
http://www.irs.gov/uac/Tax-Stats-2
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/15/auto-bailout-price-tag-rises-to-25-billion-how-high-will-it-go/
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:31 pm
Tom,
I am Independent .
stands for decibels
October 11th, 2012
2:31 pm
2) “Early voting is not good for the country. It would be similar to having a jury trial where half-way through a couple of jurors stood up and said, ‘We’ve heard enough. Let’s vote!’.
huh? complaining about early voting? wonder why…
There are signs that this strategy has paid dividends, too. Almost 1-in-5 respondents in the Thursday NBC News-Wall Street Journal-Marist poll of Ohio said they had voted early; 63 percent of those who had already cast ballots said they had voted for Obama.
oh. that ’splains it.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:32 pm
The glass is cracking. The clock is running. You fellows better start looking at real estate in Portland to rub elbows with your kind. It’s almost morning in America again.
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
2:32 pm
Joe, 2:26,
Then, pray tell, what other reason would they have to close? Hell, Bozo even offered a tax credit of 8K to buy one on these cars and lowered the price by 25% and they still can’t sell them. Why have a battery plant when you have nothing to put it into?
Regnad Kcin
October 11th, 2012
2:32 pm
“The only thing mitt stands for is cutting PBS.
Everything else he says is subject to change.”
Don’t forget Planned Parenthood.
Goldie
October 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
No doubt about it — Barack Obama is the greatest President of the 21st century!
Observation
October 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
2:32 pm
Do you drive a Fiat? Would you rather have Americans buy foreign or domestic cars?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Drudge — “Joe Hussein – I actually know a lot about it and Pew, Gallup and even Rasmussen have been overly skewing Dem based on 2008 trends and reciprocal data from the census.”
“Overly skewing?” (laughing)
Tell me, what would be an *appropriate* distribution and how you’d determine it. Go ahead. I can hardly wait to hear this.
“Even so, in national polls O is down an average of 2 across the board.”
In the “skewed” polls you deride.
“How did I do? Tell me how you conduct poll research when you get a second.”
I don’t make up demographic distributions and use them as fudge factors in my results the way outfits like Rasmussen do. There’s no way to look into the future to determine what Election Day 2012 turnout will be, so there’s absolutely no basis whatsoever — 2008 census data or historical turnout models included — to gauge what *this* election’s turnout will be. Anyone who tells you differently is simply looking for a way to justify plugging their own biases into their results.
If Rasmussen or any other polling outfit thinks it can look into the future and accurately determine the 2012 voter turnout across the country, then they should simply look an *extra* day into the future and tell us the election results instead.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
Your 401k’s are up, the market is up, unemployment is falling and housing is improving.
We are definitely on the right track and I will reward our President with my vote for that.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 11th, 2012
2:36 pm
K71 — “Then, pray tell, what other reason would they have to close?”
They’re not closing. Your claim was already debunked a couple of hours ago.
kayaker 71
October 11th, 2012
2:36 pm
Observation, 2:33,
I drive a Government Motors SUV. I would much rather have Americans buy and drive American cars ….. who wouldn’t?
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
You Republican fascists never mention Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, AIG, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, Morgan Stanley, PNC Financial Services Group, US Bancorp, Capital One, Regions Financial Corporation, American Express, Bank of New York Mellon Corp, State Street Corporation, Discover Financial.
Strange, huh?
NEVER.
NOT ONCE.
EVER.
Even though the amount of money that YOU gave them was MAGNITUDES OF DEGREE larger that forked over to GM.
Why do you so adore these white collar criminals?
Banksters Uber Alles…
Regnad Kcin
October 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
If libs were like pubs, you’d see a lot of spam about “Mitt thinks he can balance the budget by cutting PBS – it’s only .00000012346 of the budget.” You’d see it over and over – hear it on radio an TV, and see it on every blog.
I wonder what the difference is?
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
Love the latest. I know you boys don’t see the good stuff glued to commie TV, but confirmed by a Duke professor, the wedding ring on Obama, the writing on it is Arabic….. Now, that’s not news to me, but some might like to know. I guess IF true Michelle might have gotten in a pawn shop in Dearborn, who knows.
Observation
October 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
I drive a Government Motors SUV. I would much rather have Americans buy and drive American cars ….. who wouldn’t?
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Okay, are you unhappy with the success that President Obama had in saving GM?
Goldie
October 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
getalife — and OBL is dead and GM is alive, and women get equal pay, and gays no longer discharged from the military just because of being gay, and Latino children can stay in America and go to school and work, and 100,000+ jobs being created each month once again!
Yeaaaa — President Obama, the greated prez for the 21st century!
YouLibs
October 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
I’m a lib
Did you hear? Obama’s birth certificate is fake.
NO, REALLY!