Mitt Romney, meet Mitt Romney
As we saw this morning on the abortion issue, this just brushes the surface of Romney’s recent flipflops. But it’s telling nonetheless:
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JamVet
October 10th, 2012
10:43 pm
…now that you tell me he’s (Obama) honest…
Like Mitt you cannot help yourself.
One more time, politicians are professional liars.
You, on the other hand, are an amateur liar.
But a professional rube…
They BOTH suck
October 10th, 2012
10:44 pm
G Mare
Best wishes and thoughts going out to you.
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 10th, 2012
10:44 pm
Time to run, but gotta ask a quick question. On the Benghazi thread earlier, did anybody bring up the House GOPer’s outting the CIA on live tv???
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html?hpid=z3
Buncha jackasses. What is it with Republicans outting CIA operatives? Somebody should investigate them for this crap, seriously.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 10th, 2012
10:44 pm
Free baseball in NY.
Go Yankees!
JamVet
October 10th, 2012
10:45 pm
Joseph is mike?
Which mike was he, Kam?
These trolls all run together after awhile and I don’t follow the karma chameleon sock puppets much…
pete
October 10th, 2012
10:46 pm
Man, it sure is fun watching libs implode. If the previous 7 days are the warm up, the final act ought to be great! Even the MSM is starting to question their own messiah.
Enjoy the final days of Obama.
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
10:46 pm
@RF
Interesting that Bush was so toxic he was persona non grata, yet Clinton stole the show at the DNC.
Had JFK not been blown away in Dallas, he woulda been 95 this year. Possible though not likely they coulda wheeled him out. What a moment that would have been. *sigh*
getalife
October 10th, 2012
10:46 pm
G Mare,
Dang, I hoped it was over because I know you are scared.
Factaurus
October 10th, 2012
10:46 pm
Free America!
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 10th, 2012
10:47 pm
Kam
From what I saw, Jay’s warning and red card came in back-to-back posts. I might have missed something earlier though. Even though he apologized, Steve’s remark about Keep’s wife was a low blow too. Keep took it much better than me as I would have probably crashed the AJC server.
Kaput
October 10th, 2012
10:47 pm
Obama implosion..
Doggone/GA
October 10th, 2012
10:49 pm
“Maybe Jay pulled some posts”
Apparently he pulled at least one…the one that got Fred in timeout
JamVet
October 10th, 2012
10:50 pm
For bad boy Fred,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsG60q_n3MU
getalife
October 10th, 2012
10:50 pm
Bro,
Missed that but that hearing was a disgrace. I had to change it because of the gop’s behavior.
The gop are out of control and their cons and media give them a free pass.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
10:52 pm
I remember that liberal bumper sticker slogan- Bush lied. Soldiers died.
I figure we should thus honor Obama with a bumper sticker.
Obama lied. An ambassador died.
TeaPartier
October 10th, 2012
10:53 pm
Why is wrong for us to just tell the truth? We don’t like Obama because he is black. I don’t know why this is so hard for everyone to figure out. He could give everyone a million bucks, but he’s still black and we are still racist.
Brosephus™ - Fred Got Hosed!!!! Free Fred!!!!
October 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
getalife
I’m gonna have to look for video tomorrow, but that’s the only thing I’ve seen that addresses that. Rubin, in her rightful duties, paints the hearing as devastating for the administration. She never approaches the subject of the CIA being outted by her party. I think they should be investigated for that crap. Chaffetz just came back from there, so he should have known better. I don’t know if that rates as high crimes or misdemeanors, but something has to be done.
Hell, I talk to people everyday coming from that part of the world. I know better than to out a CIA agent if I even remotely suspect someone as being one.
Misery index
October 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
When will obamisery end?
4 more weeks….
G Mare
October 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
Yo, Fred, sorry you are in time out. I know you can’t post but suspect you are reading. I am not sure what you did to merit this, but having been on the receiving end of some of your vitriol, must say I am not surprised. That said, you also, occasionally, post comments with which I agree so I hope your time is brief.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
Brother AmVet
Don’t you remember mike?
He is the bitter angry ex-AJC employee that trolled here and Luckovitch’s. Always used the phrase hyper partisan hack when describing Jay.
Always played the ad hominem attack card, too.
getalife
October 10th, 2012
10:55 pm
Yeah doomy,
It is Iraq.
Pathetic.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
10:56 pm
Fred done went and got himself in blog timeout again. The more things change the more they stay the same. I’m sure he’ll pull a cool hand Luke, eat fiddy eggs, and then breakout of blog jail soon enough.
Factaurus
October 10th, 2012
10:57 pm
Who is bad boy Fred? Rock star?
pete
October 10th, 2012
10:58 pm
The GOP is out of control??? Obama and his enablers in DC are responsible for what happened last month (another 9/11), and the GOP is out of control? That is why the libs are about to have their arses handed to them next month by a ticked off electorate.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 10th, 2012
10:58 pm
SoCo/Bro
No, Fred got a warning earlier, on another thread.
FREE FRED!
Factaurus
October 10th, 2012
11:00 pm
Obama thinks big bird is important.
I wonder if they will dedicate 10 minutes in the next debate to this topic?
24 million unemployed – not important to the O man.
JamVet
October 10th, 2012
11:00 pm
G Mare, sending good vibes across the universe to you.
Kam, riiiight. I remember that loon. He REALLY hates Jay!
Like I say I don’t keep track of the enraged nutjobs around here.
I just enjoy watching their little heads go………………. poof!
To the point where “pete”, “kaput’, “misery index”, etc suddenly appear…
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:02 pm
@Bro
Agree – the yellow card and red card were back to back
I was on a conference call and may have missed a few comments.
Jay may have already lifted the ban and Fred is staying away due to some sense of wounded pride.
or, maybe he is at a bar and taking a bourbon break.
RF
October 10th, 2012
11:04 pm
“Possible though not likely they coulda wheeled him out. What a moment that would have been. *sigh*”
I wasn’t born until ‘64, but I grew up with him just the same. I hate the fact that John Jr. died- he had some style and was beginning to look like a potential political force himself just before the plane crash.
Go to this link and watch Clinton talking about Romney. I loved him at the debate, but this is some of the political speaking I’ve heard in a long time!
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/10/10/video-bill-clinton-on-romneys-debate-performance-wow-heres-old-moderate-mitt-where-ya-been-boy-i-missed-yall-these-last-2-years/
getalife
October 10th, 2012
11:07 pm
Bro,
chaffetz has been their lead attack dog on corporate media everyday.
I remember him saying something about classified information should not be discussed in the hearing and seemed upset.
jconservative
October 10th, 2012
11:07 pm
Change of subject:
“Associated Press – October 10, 2012
BRUSSELS — The United States has sent troops to Jordan to bolster its military capabilities in the event Syria’s civil war escalates, U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday, reflecting U.S. concerns about the conflict spilling over allies’ borders and about the security of Syria’s chemical weapons arsenal.
Speaking at a NATO conference of defense ministers, Panetta said the U.S. has been working with Jordan to monitor chemical and biological weapons sites in Syria and also to help Jordan deal with refugees pouring over the border from Syria.”
Reuters is reporting “the team had been in Jordan for several months and was there when Panetta visited King Abdullah in early August. The number of troops in the team has since grown, but there are no specific plans to expand it further, the official said. “We have been working with Jordan for a period of time now … on a number of the issues that have developed as a result of what’s happened in Syria,” Panetta told a news conference in Brussels.”
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:08 pm
I remember that liberal bumper sticker slogan- Bush lied. Soldiers died.
I figure we should thus honor Obama with a bumper sticker.
Obama lied. An ambassador died.
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Bush lied about yellow cake and WMD as a justification to send troops into Iraq.
Over 4,400 troops died in Iraq as a result.
Obama’s administration may have been inept in deciphering intel or understanding the actual threat, but I still don’t see the “lie” that led to the death of 4 Americans in Libya.
RF
October 10th, 2012
11:12 pm
“I just enjoy watching their little heads go………………. poof!”
Reminds me of that scene in Men in Black in the pawn shop where they shoot the guy’s head and it grows right back.
They just reassemble and come back the next day.
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:18 pm
@RF
John Jr had style (Jackie’s influence)
But I don’t think he had the fire to run for office.
But what a voice he would have been in today’s second by second cyber-verse.
Some people think he was a privileged dilettante who wasn’t very smart.
I know from personal experience he was anything but. Growing up as John-John was a difficult experience.
pete
October 10th, 2012
11:19 pm
Look before I leap…
Really…really…? WMD’s were found in Iraq. I know…I was there. Were you there? Sarin and mustard gas were detected by a FOXX unit, and I was there and saw it destroyed.
Frickin arm chair quarterbacks think they know everything.
JamVet
October 10th, 2012
11:20 pm
RF, LOL!
Wow. What a game.
Raúl Ibañez is the man!!!
Late To The Party But...Sometimes Charlie B...
October 10th, 2012
11:20 pm
@Factaurus…24 million unemployed – not important to the O man.
Please list what the President can/should do to create jobs. How is the current President responsible for jobs being shifted over seas or H1B workers being brought to work jobs at a lesser rate than Americans. I am not just talking about manufacturing. I’m talking about call centers, pharmicist, accounting, and so on.
You criticize a lot, you denigrate and disrespect the office of the President, yet as I have stated previously, you imply that you belong to the party of morals/values and patriotism. Your posts do not backup your claims. Beating a dead horse, but I am so sick of you so-called conservative patriotic Americans disrepecting those who share differing beliefs. You should not compromise yourself or your beliefs at any rate.
RF
October 10th, 2012
11:20 pm
@Look- it was, but Jackie evidently did a darn good job of raising him as a Kennedy child without him becoming one of the spoiled, drug-addicted fools that so many in that generation became. He would be incredible just as a commentator in the last 10 years, in my opinion.
Did you watch the Clinton video? It’s hilarious!
RF
October 10th, 2012
11:22 pm
Jam: I just hope Clinton will keep doing the rallies and coming up with such zingers. That stuff would make this election so much easier to stomach!!
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:23 pm
“Bush lied about yellow cake and WMD as a justification to send troops into Iraq.
Over 4,400 troops died in Iraq as a result.”
Well if a couple tons of yellow cake uranium were in fact discovered and secretly removed by the W administration then where the hell is the lie? It may be your opinion that we didn’t need to go to war over yellowcake but it was certainly no lie that the material existed as you acknowledge.
“Obama’s administration may have been inept in deciphering intel or understanding the actual threat, but I still don’t see the “lie” that led to the death of 4 Americans in Libya.”
Then you are willfully blind.
getalife
October 10th, 2012
11:25 pm
Bro,
Jay should post that story and Mr. Milbank should hit corporate media and report it.
Enough with giving the gop a free pass.
getalife
October 10th, 2012
11:26 pm
JamVet,
He crushed the second one.
Congrats.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 10th, 2012
11:26 pm
Can plucky, Pump Up The Volume actress Samantha Mathis save the Atlas Shrugged franchise, or will the world as we know it end?
We will know for sure on Friday.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:27 pm
“The man who has been governor and had a sterling business career crosses the qualification threshold,” Clinton said.
I’m with RF. I love some Clinton zingers as well.
getalife
October 10th, 2012
11:31 pm
It was a CIA compound doomy.
Now the world knows.
Congrats.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 10th, 2012
11:31 pm
This Sunday an exasperated Rex Ryan will finally pull Mark Sanchez in the second half and put in Raul Ibanez.
Heh, heh, heh.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:34 pm
“I am not sure what you did to merit this, but having been on the receiving end of some of your vitriol, must say I am not surprised.”
Gmare,
I agree. Fred is funny even when he’s going ballistic and I suspect he will be back in short order. But Steve apologized adequately as Jay pointed out. Fred just took advantage of the situation to try and badger and bully Steve. Fred did this knowing full well that Steve was’nt really in a position to fire back at Fred after just having been chastised by Jay.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:35 pm
getalife,
Have you respected Saban today? You need to.
getalife
October 10th, 2012
11:38 pm
doomy,
No, I am cheering for Missouri.
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:39 pm
@Pete
No I wasn’t there.
Mustard gas is a nasty thing but fatality rates are low.
Sarin is another matter.
But, we KNEW in 1995 (and suspected as early as 1984) that Iraq had sarin. And there is evidence that Iraq used it against the Kurds in the late 80s and early 90s.
It has a high dispersion rate and is more effective in enclosed areas making its efficacy as a multi-modal weapon very limited. If the US’s concerns were great enough to warrant the death’s of 4000 soldiers, why then did we wait until 2003 to do so?
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:42 pm
getalife,
Mizzou has no chance. Nada, None. Zilch. They are in for a physical beatdown that they will be feeling the following Friday. Your judgement day will come on Nov. 3rd. But take heart. I think Texas A&M has a good chance of catching us off guard and possibly upsetting us the following week. Otherwise everyone else can abandon ye all hope in the face of Saban’s relentless army.
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:44 pm
“Well if a couple tons of yellow cake uranium were in fact discovered and secretly removed by the W administration then where the hell is the lie? It may be your opinion that we didn’t need to go to war over yellowcake but it was certainly no lie that the material existed as you acknowledge. ”
———————————————————————————————————————————————-
Are you off your medication or just being intentionally obtuse?
I did not acknowledge the yellow cake existed.
It in fact did not exist.
Now if you want to screw on your tin foil hat and think that Bush and company did find it and then concealed its existence for some Area 51 reason, feel free to do so.
Marty Huggins'
October 10th, 2012
11:46 pm
Look before I leap…
October 10th, 2012
11:39 pm
Ooh ooh ooh!
I know I know.
Because we had just had a major attack on us soil and it allowed the public to get behind a war with an enemy who didn’t attack us.
Much as the attack on pearl harbor gave a reason to commit troops to fight on the ground in Europe even though we had been aware of Hitler and Mussolini had been doing.
Not quite on the same scale though
Late To The Party But...Sometimes Charlie B...
October 10th, 2012
11:47 pm
@Look…In all sincerity and political beliefs aside; why does America get to dictate to other countries what type of weapons they can/cannot develop?
Do you believe that America has left herself vulnerable since we have had such an infiltration of foreign investments into most aspects of American life?
I’m up monitoring a production server upgrade, so if I suddenly drop off…u understand.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:53 pm
“It in fact did not exist.”
Look before you leap,
I’m not sure what planet you live on but on planet Earth the U.S. govt initiated a secret operation to remove a substantial amount of yellowcake and released details of the removal after the operation was completed.
From that bastion of liberalism msnbc
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/
The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein’s nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.
The removal of 550 metric tons of “yellowcake” — the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam’s nuclear legacy. It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions.
Thulsa Doom
October 10th, 2012
11:55 pm
Truth @ 11:50,
tick, tick, tick
Look before I leap...
October 10th, 2012
11:58 pm
“Because we had just had a major attack on us soil and it allowed the public to get behind a war with an enemy who didn’t attack us.”
I’d almost buy that if Iraq had been involved in the 9/11 attacks. But they weren’t.
But to your point:
12/7/41 – Japan attacks Pearl
12/8/41 – FDR asks for a declaration of war against Japan (the country that attacked the US). Congress declares war on Japan.
12/8/41 – Germany and Italy (as Axis powers) declare war on the US.
12/11/41 – US declares war on Germany and Italy
Not to nitpick, but the US never declared war on Iraq.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:05 am
@Thulsa
Really?
Ok now I know you are off your meds.
The so called “Canadian” yellowcake had been been identified and under the control of UN inspectors for 12 YEARS. It was not some secret stash that was being used by Iraq to make nukes.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:06 am
that is 12 years prior to the invasion of Iraq
It was another 5 before we moved it out of the country
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
12:13 am
“The so called “Canadian” yellowcake had been been identified and under the control of UN inspectors for 12 YEARS. It was not some secret stash that was being used by Iraq to make nukes.”
Look before I leap,
I think you may need some of those ahem meds you keep referring to. If you’re going to be insulting sir at least dispense with the 6th grade “you didn’t take your meds today” nonsense.
You just went from some nonsense about saying there was “no yellowcake at all” to now acknowledging that there in fact was. And now you’re deflecting from your blatant LIE with some nonsense about it having been there for 12 years. It doesn’t matter genius. The point is that it was there and that as the msnbc article points out it was part of Saddamm’s legacy of nuclear ambitions. What is it about this that your mind has trouble grasping? The fact that it had been there a mere 12 years is effing irrelevant. Geez.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
12:15 am
“that is 12 years prior to the invasion of Iraq
It was another 5 before we moved it out of the country”
So effing what?
Jesus H. Christ. The point is that it was there and that it could be enriched to weapons grade WMDs. What in the hell is there about this that your mind does not understand???
getalife
October 11th, 2012
12:15 am
Jay should post this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html
The gop outed a CI A compound in the hearing today
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
12:18 am
getalife,
As if the terrorists who overran the compound didn’t know or didn’t find out that it was a CIA compound. Way to go there genius.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
12:20 am
“I did not acknowledge the yellow cake existed.
It in fact did not exist.”
L
I
E
!
getalife
October 11th, 2012
12:21 am
Breaking:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html
The gop outed a CI A compound in the hearing today.
getalife
October 11th, 2012
12:22 am
The Arab Spring would take saddam out like the rest of the dictators.
Thulsa Doom
October 11th, 2012
12:24 am
Getalife,
You talking about the Arab Spring that now has Muslim extremists either running or having inordinate influence in Egypt and Libya. Chalk that up as another foreign policy failure for the O man.
Anyway I’m out for the night. Taps. And don’t forget to respect Saban getalife.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:25 am
@Thulsa
OK we’ll move off the meds comment and I’ll just ascribe your comments to intellectual dishonesty and toss in a mea culpa for not being perfectly clear in my original post:
I should have said there were no UNKNOWN caches of yellowcake.
Better?
But, and there is where I think you are being intellectually dishonest, Bush and company used a report from Italian sources that Saddam was seeking yellowcake from Niger. This would be stuff we did not know about and could pose a threat. THAT is the yellowcake that I say does not exist.
This was the beginning of the whole Valerie Plame affair that got Scooter Libby sent to jail. Though the shrub commuted the prison part of Libby’s sentence.
Marty Huggins'
October 11th, 2012
12:27 am
Look before I leap…
October 10th, 2012
11:58 pm
Nitpicking noted! Gawd didn’t know we were going all facts and stuff in this blog now. When did that start?
Was more referencing support for military involvement.
Even though one was kinda exaggerated especially when it comes to on going activities at the time. While the other not so much was more people had recent memories of a a long war.
Oscar
October 11th, 2012
12:30 am
No weapons of mass destruction existed. Our national security was not at risk. Everyone knows that. Issued is settled. Time to move on.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:31 am
“The point is that it was there and that it could be enriched to weapons grade WMDs”
If Saddam had control over it. He did not.
So let me simplify it for you:
Yellowcake was in Iraq
It was never going to be a threat to anyone as Saddam had no control over it
We invaded Iraq based on an erroneous reports that there was OTHER yellowcake we did not know about.
Bush had reliable intel that the reports were false. He declined to mention that in the SOtU and to congress.
There is Bush’s lie
Clear?
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:52 am
And Thulsa:
Just in case you think I am a blog hack with a few bits of bad cyber info:
From Bush II himself:
“In a speech before the World Affairs Council of Charlotte, NC, on April 7, 2006, President Bush stated that he “fully understood that the intelligence was wrong, and [he was] just as disappointed as everybody else” when U.S. troops failed to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq”
Citation follows:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2006/apr/6/20060406-112119-5897r/
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
12:54 am
@Marty
It is one thing to use a fact to go to war – damned sure there is no doubt that Japan attacked Pearl, quite another to use bad or false or distorted “intel” to do the same.
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:12 am
Obama lies, and SOME in the media is all over him and his administration. Now, lets see if the MSM will pick up on this one and do to Obama what they did to Bush. Yeah, I doubt it too.
This Libya thing is about to blow up. So long Obama.
RF
October 11th, 2012
1:13 am
“The gop outed a CI A compound in the hearing today”
Not surprising. Why would we expect anyone in a party that would back Mittens to know why they need to remember security protocols and the importance of CIA safety? Bet we won’t be seeing any bad press over on Fox for them doing that.
They’re so eager to find something, anything to make Obama look bad that they just get plumb brain dead, especially if cameras are rolling and they get the chance to look all important and smart.
Tundra Dude
October 11th, 2012
1:15 am
But, we KNEW in 1995 (and suspected as early as 1984) that Iraq had sarin. And there is evidence that Iraq used it against the Kurds in the late 80s and early 90s
Boy, that Saddam guy was really awful……
Might say the same for The Donald…(Rumsfeld) who was Saddam’s go-to guy.
The entire list of US suppliers of wmd’s to Iraq was published in a German paper.
This was censored by our entire (warmongering ) news media.
RF
October 11th, 2012
1:15 am
“This Libya thing is about to blow up”
Watch out, it’s probably going to blow up all over your buddies up there if they keep on outing CIA operatives and stuff. Something about classifed information going public that gets folks kinda riled up. They’re trying so hard to get Obama that they just may end up incriminating some of their own.
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:25 am
I was a little concerned that the clown was going to get re-elected. Not worried anymore thanks to his incompetence. Folks have started to tune in to what is going on, and they don’t like what they see.
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:34 am
Wait until folks find out that there are 4 dead Americans because this administration is more concerned about CYA then actually protecting our country.
Obama and his pals don’t give a damn about my country, and I don’t give a damn about them.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
1:38 am
@pete
I’m bored so I’ll play.
Where is the “CYA” that caused the deaths of 4 Americans?
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:41 am
@Look…
Someone has not been watching and/or reading the news lately.
Tundra Dude
October 11th, 2012
1:41 am
President Bush stated that he “fully understood that the intelligence was wrong, and [he was] just as disappointed as everybody else” when U.S. troops failed to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq”
The real intell wasn’t wrong, the fixed intell was wrong.
I choose to believe USAF Lt. Col. K. Kwiatkowski, assigned to the pentagon during this time.
She claims the fix was in for Iraq, never mind the intell.
It was well known that 95% of the wmds had already been destroyed or otherwise accounted for, she sez.
As Huffington Post Senior Editor Marc Cooper wrote in a profile of Kwiatkowski for LA Weekly:
(snipped)
Though a lifelong conservative, Kwiatkowski found herself appalled as the radical wing of the Bush administration, including her superiors in the Pentagon planning department, bulldozed internal dissent, overlooked its own intelligence and relentlessly pushed for confrontation with Iraq.
(snip)
The biggest shock I had in May 2002 was finding that the war plan for invasion of Iraq was in its second draft – it was ready to go. We were ready to invade Iraq in the Spring of 2002.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
1:45 am
@Pete
“Someone has not been watching and/or reading the news lately.”
If that is the best you can do, then I’ve wasted time on not one but two posts here.
Shame on you!!
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
1:49 am
@Tundra
I really don’t know “fixed” vs “real” intel.
I do know that over 4,400 military service members are dead because Bush II decided to invade Iraq under false pretenses.
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:52 am
@Look
Waaaaaa………
Just watch the news….or read the news….either way, you will deny anything critical of Obama. So, what’s the point. Done wasting time on Obama supporters.
pete
October 11th, 2012
1:59 am
@Look…
And how many are dead because of the incompetence of Obama? I know of at least 4 who died on Sept. 11th in Libya.
Ask someone in the military who they support, Obama or Bush.
pete
October 11th, 2012
2:15 am
@Look…
Ohhhhh….now I get it, there are 4 dead Americans because of “a movie”. Whew…I can now go to bed. I thought it was terrorists that did it, but I forgot that Obama has already taken care off all the terrorists.
I hope he gets out of office before more Americans are killed.
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
2:18 am
Chilling but very illuminating:
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/10/10/transcript-senior-state-department-officials-hold-teleconference-ahead-of-todays-benghazi-attack-hearing/
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
2:25 am
@Pete
Obama supporter?
Really? Where did you get that?
I simply asked you to specify what YOUR issues were, not Fox nor Rush nor CNN nor anyone else.
I read and follow the news son, and then I dig a bit deeper because I want to to see if there is more to the story than what Fox or CNN or ABC or MSNBC or anyone else has to say about it.
However, I am happy to know that anything YOU have to say is easily ignored.
Good day sir!
Look before I leap...
October 11th, 2012
3:12 am
Jay:
Please re-open the the Benghazi attack as a topic tomorrow.
I set up a web data mining crawler that is pulling statements, attributions/sources, dates/times etc in an effort to see what happened a month ago outside of the lensing of the major news sources.
It will take some time to parse the data (the complete transcripts from today’s testimony in the HOR are just now coming in).
I am non partisan in this issue. If Obama and company screwed the pooch, then they should be excoriated for what happened. If Romney and company are politicizing the issue based upon partial or misleading facts, then they should be equally excoriated.
In any event, it should be fun to see what the regulars here have to say.
Bible -vs- Book of Mormon
October 11th, 2012
5:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1mFdO1wB08
Benghazi Compound
October 11th, 2012
5:41 am
When House Republicans called a hearing in the middle of their long recess, you knew it would be something big, and indeed it was: They accidentally blew the CIA’s cover.
The purpose of Wednesday’s hearing of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee was to examine security lapses that led to the killing in Benghazi last month of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three others. But in doing so, the lawmakers reminded us why “congressional intelligence” is an oxymoron.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.htm
Wilbur
October 11th, 2012
6:12 am
Jay got his marching orders from Plouffe that it’s time to attack some more. The Obama campaign is concerned that the hundreds of millions they spent to attack Romney did not take and it’s time for their lapdogs to attack some more. Of course, that’s all Jay is…a lapdog for the DNC.
It’s all the democrats have: anger, envy, division, attacks, and tired left wing ideology that has never worked and still isn’t.
bob
October 11th, 2012
6:31 am
I actually voted for it, before I voted against it ! But dems never change their minds right ? But this is a good thread, no reason see Jay’s kids to have to tell everyone why obo was so inept he thought our ambassador was killed over a video. Pathetic to think he has been lying to us. More pathetic if he is telling the truth that he and his staff were totally clueless. Some were telling us what really happened two days after the fact but for three weeks mr. law review editor was whining about the video.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 11th, 2012
6:36 am
Wilbur,
I think you had better talk to your horse…
JamVet
October 11th, 2012
6:38 am
Wilbur, if you neocons thought it would help get Mittens elected, I have no doubt that the you CIA-outters would give up a GI or three or an ambassador to the terrorists.
So save your faux outrage for you little fascist circle jerks.
Your cowardly hero is going nowhere but home to his mansion(s) on November 6.
Then you can whine for another four years.
Oh and good morning!
Off to make money, toodles!
Another MSM pass???
October 11th, 2012
6:42 am
…And when the terrorist attack did take place, the Obama Administration peddled the ridiculous story that an offensive, amateurish, anti-Islam YouTube video was to blame in order to avoid characterizing the murders of four Americans as terrorism…
Jm
October 11th, 2012
7:02 am
Jay was on a roll yesterday
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 11th, 2012
7:03 am
Another MSM pass???
October 11th, 2012
6:42 am
…And when the terrorist attack did take place, the Obama Administration peddled the ridiculous story that an offensive, amateurish, anti-Islam YouTube video was to blame in order to avoid characterizing the murders of four Americans as terrorism…
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And Cairo?
And Tripoli?
And Khartoum?
And Sanaa?
And Tehran?
And Diraz?
And Baghdad?
And Tunis?
And Jerusalem?
And Nablus?
And Damascus?
And Jalalabad?
And Islamabad?
And Doha?
And London?
And Istanbul?
And Kashmir?
And Dahka?
What was their problem?
Mr. Silly Pants
Jm
October 11th, 2012
7:04 am
getalife
October 11th, 2012
12:22 am
The Arab Spring would take saddam out like the rest of the dictators.
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-speculative and likely false