GOP’s hyping of Benghazi attack quite curious

EVENT ONE:

On Sept. 11, 2001, terrorists launched major, coordinated attacks on U.S. soil, killing more than 3,000 U.S. citizens. The attacks were successful despite CIA briefings delivered to President Bush in person more than a month earlier titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” In fact, as far back as May 2001, U.S. intelligence was warning that “a group presently in the United States” was plotting a terror attack. But tragically, too little was done to stop it.

In addition, for months after the attacks, top U.S. officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, claimed that the attacks had been planned and coordinated by Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, a claim that turned out to be utterly false but that Cheney and others used to help build political support for an ill-fated invasion of that country that cost an additional 4,000 American lives.

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EVENT TWO:

Eleven years later to the day — Sept. 11, 2012 — terrorists launched an attack on an isolated U.S. consulate in war-torn Libya, killing the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. In the immediate wake of the attack, U.S. officials downplayed concerns of terrorism, incorrectly attributing the deaths to a mob protest against an anti-Islamic video that got out of hand. As Director of National Intelligence James Clapper explained later, “we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists.”

It’s pretty clear that U.S. officials could have and should have acknowledged earlier that the attacks were carried out by terrorists instead of by a mob. However it’s difficult to understand the immense significance attributed to that delay by some. There are also allegations that the U.S. State Department may have overlooked intelligence warnings of a possible attack and failed to upgrade security for Ambassador Chris Stevens, a man who was intimately familiar with Libya and knew the dangers inherent in leaving our fortified embassy in Tripoli.

I make this comparison not because I wish to relitigate the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The nation’s nonpartisan, unified response at the time was proper and appropriate, and while in hindsight it appears that more could have been done to prevent those attacks, in hindsight many things are apparent that are more difficult to appreciate in real time.

Instead, I’m interested in exploring why the aftermaths of the two events have played out so differently. In the wake of Event One, there was no effort to politicize the tragedy and no concerted effort to blame the Bush administration for failing to prevent an attack on our own territory, against civilians. Yet in the wake of Event Two, politicians were in such an unseemly rush to take partisan advantage of the tragedy that on the night of the attack itself, Mitt Romney actually accused President Obama of sympathizing with those who carried out the murder of our people.

Here’s the statement in full, for those who may have forgotten:

“I’m outraged by the attacks on American diplomatic missions in Libya and Egypt and by the death of an American consulate worker in Benghazi. It’s disgraceful that the Obama Administration’s first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”

By any rational comparison, the breach of security nine years ago was far more destructive, and was carried out on American soil where the expectation of safety was much greater. The intelligence failures involved were also far more profound. The Obama administration’s failure to immediately grasp and communicate what had happened in Benghazi, a site so dangerous that the FBI didn’t dare visit there until three weeks later, was certainly less important than Cheney’s utterly false claim that 9/11 was an Iraqi conspiracy.

So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal when the infinitely more serious attacks on New York City and Washington did not? And if a scandal does exist, why don’t Republicans share in the blame for having insisted on hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts to embassy-security programs in the last two fiscal years?

Please. Explain all this to me, because I don’t get it.

– Jay Bookman

390 comments Add your comment

F. Sinkwich

October 10th, 2012
2:44 pm

Uh, because O’bozo LIED?

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
2:44 pm

Please. Explain all this to me, because I don’t get it.

IOKIYAR

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
2:45 pm

Uh, because O’bozo LIED?

Uh, the smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
2:48 pm

When did the president lie, Sinkwich? Please document your charge.

godless heathen

October 10th, 2012
2:50 pm

12 minus 1 is 9?

mm

October 10th, 2012
2:51 pm

Curious? I’m surprised they haven’t come up with some kind of conspiracy about Bo the dog!

Jan Zalegowski

October 10th, 2012
2:51 pm

Are you an idiot all the time or just when you pick up the whitehouse phone?

Aquagirl

October 10th, 2012
2:52 pm

When did the president lie, Sinkwich? Please document your charge.

He’s relying on Mighty Righty’s recollections. Are you gonna argue with the U. of Sussfolkex?

Rightwing Troll

October 10th, 2012
2:53 pm

If Obama is responsible for Libya because he personally hadn’t put enough guards on duty, then what does that make W in regards to 9-11???

I look forward to your lies and subterfuge…

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
2:54 pm

Jay — “When did the president lie, Sinkwich? Please document your charge.”

Give Fishy some time. His fax machine’s on the fritz this afternoon.

Common Sense

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

So your position is that Clinton and Obama were honest to the American people, and to the rest of the world about what happened and the reasons why?

It was not about a movie, after all.

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

false equivalence

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal when the infinitely more serious attacks on New York City and Washington did not?

Because there’s an presidential campaign going on and they’re grasping at any straw that will help them regain power. Power they have shown incapable of properly handling, so we should do everything in our power to prevent it. Including highlighting how craven Romney is.

Rightwing Troll

October 10th, 2012
2:55 pm

“false equivalence”

How so?

Get me Rex Kramer

October 10th, 2012
2:56 pm

C’mon Jay, even you must see that this whole thing is a crock. They clealy knew what happened, but kept saying it was a spontaneous event due to an obscure video that few have even seen. Why then did they lie?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
2:56 pm

Jay,

Not a big fan of this particular column. We’d have to go a lot further back to get into depth about what we knew pre-911…Other issues include our devastated intelligence network per Clinton adminstration which took ten years to re-build..definitely allowing Obama to “get” OBL..(too bad he was so quick to spike the ball within hours of knowledge…I bet if we had a couple weeks with that data without tipping our hat to al queda, we may have been able to at least arrest the growth of al queda)…I think all can agree that IRAQ was a huge mistake by Bush et al.

The difference here is that during today’s hearing, it was stated clearly by the State Dept that al queda was growing “daily” in Libya, that there were approximately 10,000 unaccounted for grenade or surface to air tools left from our provision of same. Again the adminstration rushed out asap to minimized political damage without clear assessment…most State department folks will surface and confirm that the department knew within 24 hours that this was a terrorist action, well planned and not related to any video…

The allegations of a election year cover up even if untrue, will be like an RPG to the DEMS from here until Nov 6..

too little time

October 10th, 2012
2:57 pm

So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal

how about:
* Because Obama’s state department pulled security from Benghazi when the ambassador felt imminent danger.
* The state department was WARNED by the weak government in Libya that something was about to happen
* The Embassy was attacked.
* Obama didn’t even break off the campaign trail for a second to address the situation.
* Obama didn’t even refer to it as an act of terrorism for 1-2 weeks, when Libya was yelling al-Qaeda at the top of their lungs.
* it happened on sept 11, an obvious date for such an attack.

I think if Obama had called a press conference and condemned the terrorist assault on a foreign embassy and lamented the death of our ambassador, then this would be a non issue. But he didn’t. First, he blamed it on a YouTube video (how presidential was that?), and apologized to Muslims worldwide. MUCH later, AFTER the real situation was made public (and it was clear that HIS ADMINISTRATION KNEW THE TRUTH FROM THE START), he admitted to the truth.

Basically, his State Department ignored the situation, got an ambassador killed, then he lied to the UN and the American people about the cause. What more do you need, Jay?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

In other news, deadbeat dad disses Iraq war vet for considering what clothes to wear.

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/joe-walsh-debate-tammy-duckworth-dress-photo.php?ref=fpb

Walsh is clearly upset because his mommy and daddy pick out his clothes for him every day and lay them out so he can get dressed and get to Congress on time.

Bill Orvis White

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

This is just King Hussein Obama’s incompetence and arrogance on display. Libya equals 2 cups of incompetence. Add one cup of this to Fast and Furious; mix in 1/4 cup of Illegal Health Care Laws; throw in a 1/2 a cup of “Rev.” Jeremiah Wright along with Father Pfleger and put in a dash of Joe Bidin’ Time and you have King Hussein Obama’s Incompetence Stew. Even Martha Stewart couldn’t mix this one up fast enough.
Amen,
Bill

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

“The allegations of a election year cover up even if untrue, will be like an RPG to the DEMS from here until Nov 6..”

Oh, boy, I hope it’s like Final Fantasy!

ByteMe - Thugs vs. Ilk... in 3D!

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

too bad he was so quick to spike the ball within hours of knowledge…

First, he spiked Trump’s hair. THEN he spiked the ball after word leaked. It’s not like you couldn’t follow along on Twitter with the Pakistanis who were in the neighborhood.

Kamchak ~Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

Not a big fan of this particular column.

We will now bow our heads in silence to respect your awesome whinyness.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
2:58 pm

This is also interesting.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/261271-romney-to-pull-story-of-slain-seal-from-stump-speech

Apparently Romney has been citing the ex-SEAL’s death in Benghazi as part of his stump speech. The man’s mother protested, saying “I don’t trust Romney. He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama.”

independent thinker

October 10th, 2012
3:00 pm

And which party was responsible for cutting the State Department budget for security at embassies?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:00 pm

Obama’s Lies Unravel in Congressional Hearing on Libya 9/11 Attack
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/10/Obama-s-Lies-Unravel-in-Congressional-Hearing-on-Libya-9-11-Attack

Once again, Jay Bookman finds himself on the wrong side of the issue.

Obama Lied, People Died!

East Lake Ira

October 10th, 2012
3:02 pm

Obama’s a Kenyan.

That’s why.

JKL2

October 10th, 2012
3:03 pm

-Jay

I’ll start with the simple stuff. 2012-2001 is not 9.

We were warned of an attack. obama did nothing. people died and it’s his fault, not some video. No amount of denials on his behalf can change that.

Gurn Blansdon

October 10th, 2012
3:04 pm

Difference? 9/11/2001 was blamed on Al Queda not a You Tube video.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:04 pm

White House Comes Clean: No Protest Outside Libya Consulate
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/09/State-Dept-Comes-Clean

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:04 pm

Andy does not document charges.

He slings poo and then runs away…

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:04 pm

T. L. Time — “* Because Obama’s state department pulled security from Benghazi when the ambassador felt imminent danger.”

Sorry, no. The ‘heavy lifting’ of Embassy and consular security is handled by the host nation.

The primary mission of the MSG is to provide security, particularly the protection of classified information and equipment vital to the national security of the United States at American diplomatic posts. This is accomplished under the guidance and operational control of a civilian federal agent of the Diplomatic Security Service, known as the Regional Security Officer (RSO) who is the senior U.S. law enforcement representative and security attaché at U.S. diplomatic posts around the world. In addition, MSGs provide security for visiting American dignitaries and frequently assist the RSO in supervising host country and/or locally employed security forces which provide additional security for the exterior of embassies. The MSGs fall under operational control of the RSO and are administratively controlled by the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group. The secondary mission of Marine Security Guards is to provide protection for U.S. citizens and U.S. Government property located within designated U.S. Diplomatic and Consular premises during exigent circumstances, which require immediate aid or action.

MSGs focus on the interior security of a diplomatic post’s building(s). In only the most extreme emergency situations are they authorized duties exterior to the building(s) or to provide special protection to the senior diplomatic officer off of the diplomatic compound. MSGs carry a certain level of diplomatic immunity in the performance of their official duties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Security_Guard

I’ve got a lot of respect for MSGs — it sounds like a real hardship tour, especially in a Third World nation — but let’s not make them out to be manning the battlements and fighting off attacking hordes.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:05 pm

Damaging evidence coming out against Pres. Obama…

State Department: Libya Consulate Attack Not Preceded By Protest
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/libya-attack-protest-state-department_n_1953263.html

godless heathen

October 10th, 2012
3:05 pm

If the Atta and Company had committed their actions on Obama’s watch, the official reason would have been given that they were upset about the movie being shown during the flight.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:06 pm

JKL2, so it is Bush’s fault that 2,996 people died and more than 6,000 more were injured in NYC, Washington DC and Pennsylvania?

Correct?

Yes or no?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:06 pm

CBS’ Lara Logan: Obama Admin Lying About Al Qaeda…
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/10/CBS-Logan-Obama-Lying-About-Al-Qaeda

OBAMA LIED, PEOPLE DIED!

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:07 pm

“Damaging evidence coming out against Pres. Obama…”

Damaging evidence of what, exactly?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:07 pm

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

JAY,

Typically, you and your more liberal followers are putting your heads in the sand as you don’t want to hear something that may cornhole your guy. Of course you rush to lambasting the dope Romney for his comments as well as suggesting the handling of this issue is fine since (once again) it was ok by my predecessor…then your minions above deflect by typically and predictable sarcasm instead of considering both views…

When in doubt….serpentine!! duck and cover..

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

The idea of doing anything to help America, whether it’s pass a jobs bill or mourn the loss of State Dept. employees, might also help Obama. Therefore, the GOP (and its mouthpieces) cannot bring themselves to do anything but foment hatred. They call it “taking back America” but it’s really taking over America.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

Does anyone else think that USMC is websurfing and copypasting one-handed this afternoon?

Political Mongrel

October 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

Along the same lines, I remember one Fox News anchor who said that there were no attacks on US embassies or consulates during Bush’s term. There were at least seven.

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:08 pm

USMC – Can you link us to this “lie” you continually refer to? Thank you.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:10 pm

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
3:10 pm

The Heritage Foundation is a right wing nut house. Might as well be quoting the so-called American Enterprise Institute or The Daily Caller. These people make the Hoover Foundation look like a communist commune.

Go Navy

October 10th, 2012
3:11 pm

Nice article Mr. Bookman. Well said!! Forget the “SPIN” and put the FACTS in their faces!!!

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:11 pm

I’ll fix that, thanks JKL.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
3:12 pm

USMC — When you cut and paste Ev-VErR-Ree-Thang from Breibart, do you get a woodie before or after you hit send?

JKL2

October 10th, 2012
3:13 pm

Al Qaeda? But….But…..But…..obama killed OBL. Everyone loves us now. Who would have dreamed his group would want to stage a reprisal on 9/11? (everyone except obama evidently)

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:13 pm

“Does anyone else think that USMC is websurfing and copypasting one-handed this afternoon?”–Joe

Joe you are on a roll today. That is hilarious.
You need to come out of retirement and get back on stage with your comedy act. :-)

Lee

October 10th, 2012
3:14 pm

Administration Equals = Cover up and lie, Cover up and lie, Cover up and lie

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:14 pm

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) criticizes the handling of Libyan consulate security despite voting to cut embassy funding.

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/10/rep-chaffetz-says-he-absolutely-cut-funding-for-embassy-security/

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:14 pm

Oh JKL2?

Where are you?

Don’t be afraid.

Conquer your fears and answer the question…

Jefferson

October 10th, 2012
3:15 pm

If the president fires someone is that all that is needed ? What did president Reagan do when all those marines were blown up in Beruit ?

Jefferson

October 10th, 2012
3:15 pm

Gomer is full.

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:16 pm

Lee – Do YOU have a link to this “lie”? Apparently USMC does not…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

REGNAD,

Damaging evidence that he once again was more concerned with deflecting any political loss than getting the correct information first…if state dept “never suggested it was due to video”, then he prematurely postulated and now looks pretty silly.

As mentioned, had he not rushed for OBL glory, we may have had time to use the info recovered for a couple weeks, who knows what we could have prevented…panicked WH once again made a poor call. The evidence may be found as a result of the hearings going on today..

southpaw

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

Jay
JamVet’s 3:06 post is the latest in a long string of answers to your question. Eleven years ago, nobody or almost nobody knew that blaming the President was the right thing to do. That’s why we had a unified, nonpartisan response. But in more recent years, how many times have people cried out “Bush’s fault!” ? Either the President is responsible for such things, or he isn’t.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

Could we say that the ex-marine’s unread posts prove that his GOP position, though weak, is well in hand?

Doggone/GA

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

” They call it “taking back America” but it’s really taking over America.”

Not quite. They call it “Taking America back” – but they won’t say HOW FAR BACK. They’re against taking America FORWARD even 1 tiny inch.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

USMC — “Joe you are on a roll today. That is hilarious.”

:D

I think my wife slipped an extra shot or two of espresso in my coffee this morning. She worked in a coffee bar as a college student back home in Oregon, and they take their java *seriously* out there. We’ve got one of those snooty espresso machines and she knows how to use it. Having her and that machine handy is like having a Starbucks in our kitchen! :D

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

Well Stevie, are you going to dazzle us with your brilliant presentation of evidence to support your claims of reasonable evidence to suggest that the Administration covered up evidence? Show us all why our heads are in the sand and yours is not cornhole in a lower spot on the human anatomy.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:17 pm

After last weeks Abysmal Debate performance and the scandalous cover-up of the deaths in Benghazi, Comrade Obama is starting to look like RICHARD “Tricky Dicky” NIXON…

Can you say:
“What did you know and when did you know it???

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
3:18 pm

Poor Jay… It look’s like someone may be left out to dry over BengaziGate and you just can’t stand it. Obama is about to lose with epic results this year and the top 2016 democrat Hillary is about to go down with him for doing a horrible job….

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:18 pm

Jefferson — “What did president Reagan do when all those marines were blown up in Beruit?”

Pulled out of Lebanon shortly thereafter.

FWIW, a high-school friend of mine died in that bombing.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:19 pm

“We were warned of an attack. obama did nothing. people died and it’s his fault, not some video. No amount of denials on his behalf can change that.”

So why is that not also true of GWB, only on a much much larger scale? As someone pointed out earlier, why is that also not true of Ronald Reagan, who lost 240 Marines in Beirut and also lost 63 in the bombing of our embassy in Beirut?

DownInAlbany

October 10th, 2012
3:19 pm

Explain all this to me, because I don’t get it.

Because you don’t want “to get it” is my humble opinion. How anyone can defend this administration’s handling of the rape and murder of our ambassador is beyond me. And, to ask for documentation / links of O lying about it? That would be humoruus, if not so painfully sickening.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
3:19 pm

The evidence may be found as a result of the hearings going on today..

Pure speculation first, evidence to support…well that may come later…. or it may not. :roll:

indigo

October 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

“I don’t get it”

It’s actually both very simple and very contemptable. Republicans will politicize any event involving loss of American lives at the hands of terrorists. That this shows utter disrespect both for the vitctims and their families means nothing. That this may result in more votes for Romney and other Republicans means everything.

As always, I’m at a complete loss as to why anyone would vote for people who have no sense of shame and no conscience.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

“Having her and that machine handy is like having a Starbucks in our kitchen!”–Joe

Aren’t you lucky in more than one way.
Great wife and great Coffee! My hats off to you Joe, you obviously have good taste! :-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:20 pm

MISS UNDERSTOOD,

I got blasted when I asked one poster a week or so ago (in response to blathering on about her love for Obama) if she was touching herself as she wrote that particular post….be careful where you tread:-)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:22 pm

INDIGO,

Have the DEM’s never been guilty of the same?

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:22 pm

Stevie – so there is “damaging evidence” that members of the administration blamed the occurrence on a video, before reporting that it was a planned attck. Have I got that correct?

And the “damage” will occur because…what, exactly?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:23 pm

State Department denies concluding film sparked consulate attack in Libya
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/10/state-department-denies-concluding-film-sparked-consulate-attack-in-libya/#ixzz28ulJ19Gz

Obama LIED…Ambassador and others DIED…

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
3:23 pm

@JHM

I arrived at the conclusion a long time ago that USMC is nothing more than a troll, likely a paid troll who does nothing all day except to post snarky one-liners with an attached links to push right wing propaganda.He has buddies out here too that do the same. NO IDEAS OF HIS OR HER OWN WHATSOEVER. Probably secured himself one of those “work from home” email spam gigs. And anyone who post Breitbart website links.

I can’t lie, I’m not sad at all that guy’s dead. He was a real dirt bag.

Andrew

October 10th, 2012
3:23 pm

The four Americans that tragically lost their lives were insulted, neglected, and then disrespected by the Obama administration. Rather than tell the truth about how the tragic events happened, the Obama administration lied. They lied so that their repetitive negligence and ineptitude in foreign affairs would not be brought into the light for voters to see so close to the election. Their reason for neglecting and disrespecting the men that died and their families is unforgivable.

NA

October 10th, 2012
3:24 pm

Jay,
I do not think you will ever get it and there is no person capable of making you understand anything.
1. The attacks in New York were the first of their type in this era. It was after the attack that things were tightened up in the airports, as I am sure you have flown somewhere
2.The ambassador asked for beefed up security, he asked for fencing and was denied, the embassy at times had only one guard. we hired a Libyan security team for the ambassador, who told the muslim militants how to get to him. Obama administration approved the security team and denied the request for more security.
3. Obama and Clinton blamed the attacks on a movie and apologized for the film. News media reported the same day, hours after the attack that it was a planned terroist attack. Obama denied this. almost a month later before the Obama administration acknowledged this, did not say they were wrong, just acknowledged it.

saying this an ambassador and team are still dead and this could have been prevented and warnings went out——– there were no warnings for New York
4. I know———- you still do not understand and even if you did you would chose to deny it.

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

USMC, LEE,

Ther really is no lie, is there…

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

JAY,

I think regarding 911 our intelligence in ME was so devastated by Clinton that the tips we had had about as much detail as Romney’s economic plan…..going back to Reagan is pretty lame….have to do some digging to see what we knew then. With the explosion of al queda to fill the leadership void in many of these countries where we were once again nation building speaks volumes..

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

USMC — “Aren’t you lucky in more than one way.”

Crap, now she’s going to see this. I hope you know she’s going to demand a shopping trip to Phipps now! :D

“Great wife and great Coffee! My hats off to you Joe, you obviously have good taste!”

May you be as fortunate yourself (if not already so), sir!

Skip

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

How can something that was all over the news from the moment it happened be “covered up”

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

Albany, I have seen no reputable news organization report that Stevens was raped, yet you seem to take a cruel pleasure in repeating and even stressing that notion. Do you somehow enjoy adding that apparently false humiliation to the burden that his family must bear?

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
3:26 pm

Did W say that 9/11 was the work of an angry mob and NOT a terrorist attack?

I do see some similarities in the attacks, but the response comparison is where I see big differences…like Nixon, the cover up is what will bury you not so much the “mistake” itself

I do recall Hillary and others claim specifically that it was not a terrorist attack but an angry mob, riled up over a film

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:26 pm

More damaging news just coming in for the Obama White House…

Revealed: Ambassador to Libya told officials…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2214665/Libya-consulate-attack-Ambassador-Chris-Stevens-told-officials-security-worries-day-died.html

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:26 pm

After a attack, Americans unite to show patriotism and resolve.

The gop attacked our President calling a terrorist sympathizer and they played politics with the attack.

In a sane America, this would end the gop party.

Jm

October 10th, 2012
3:26 pm

One event happened during election season. One did not.

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
3:27 pm

indigo:

Yeah like lying that a particular party wants to take away women’s rights… Oh wait….

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
3:27 pm

Romney is part of a Mormon Jihadist plot to enslave America. I saw it on youtube and I give that as much credibility as USMC’s citations.

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, an actress of black and hispanic descent endorses romney via Twitter, and gets an enormous storm of hate-filled racist vitriol from “tolerant, inclusive” liberals…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/stacey-dash-mitt-romney-endorsement-racist-tweets-twitter-backlash-_n_1954021.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment

“but….but….but…Ben, EVERYBODY knows it ’s conservatives who are racists and haters….”

LMAO

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

So on what basis do Republicans believe that the attack on our Benghazi consulate in Libya, or the confused and confusing series of incorrect explanations that followed, constitute some major political scandal when the infinitely more serious attacks on New York City and Washington did not? And if a scandal does exist, why don’t Republicans share in the blame for having insisted on hundreds of millions of dollars in cuts to embassy-security programs in the last two fiscal years?

Still crickets….. Bueller?

Lee

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

Jay…. your spin is comical.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:28 pm

The lie was saying the attack was a response to a video. As more and more intel comes out it highlights that the Arab spring was nothing more then the worse of two evils. The regimes prior were at least know evils.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:29 pm

Getalife's nemesis

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

Albany, apologize.

Awful thing to say.

stands for decibels

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

After a attack, Americans unite to show patriotism and resolve.

Americans, yes. Romny, Issa, et al, on the other hand…

(I’d add that these guys have no shame and no class, but they’d probably consider that a compliment.)

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

KEEP and REGNAD,

Its only the optics that matter..what the state department is saying today about never once suggesting this was anything other than well planned attack, that 10,000 RPG’s are unaccounted for from our rations to those we supported during revolution and the fact that the al queda folks’ influence and occupation grows daily is plenty for GOP to work with…

No facts suggesting the WH covered up but its habit of rushing to report success or rushing to deflect blame to further political standing while screwing up our ability to work in this region is fair game..

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:30 pm

GetAlife… The was a divide in the American reaction. The GOP took its anger to the rascal terrorist. The left took their anger to some film maker.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

“I think regarding 911 our intelligence in ME was so devastated by Clinton that the tips we had had about as much detail as Romney’s economic plan…”

Oh please. It’s Clinton’s fault?

Lee

October 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

Jack…..Great post.

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

Is Mitt Romney the anti-Christ?

Watch for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up9VXukTNLo

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
3:31 pm

Move along folks.. Nothing to see here…. wink wink… Check out the live stream,,, http://www.foxnews.com/

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:32 pm

Okay, let’s try this – please correct me if I’m wrong (and I know you will).

The scenario as cons see it:

1) The Libyan embassey and personnel were brutally attacked.
2) Obama knew if word got out that this was a “planned” attack, it would be politically detrimental, so;
3) the administration invented a “cover story” about an anti-Muslim film, but;
4) Ther “lie” was found out, and now there’s going to be big trouble.

Is this basically correct?

For principles

October 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

You assume that both attacks were not allowed to happen in order to promote a specific agenda favored by the powers that run this country. I think you make a huge mistake in assuming such a premise.

The republicans just sat by and allowed Obama to illegally invade Libya and should have immediately begun impeachment proceedings when it happened. They love war and killing far too much to ever do the honorable or constitutional thing. They sat back and allowed Bush to do basically the same thing in Iraq and impeachment should have been the response there too.

Don’t look to politicians who took oaths to uphold the constitution to actually honor their oaths.

Both parties are without principles.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

The big issue being covered up Is the Arab spring is a huge failure that our president supported

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

Thank you for the heads up Stevie Ray. :)
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USMC is nothing more than a troll, likely a paid troll who does nothing all day except to post snarky one-liners with an attached links to push right wing propaganda.He has buddies out here too that do the same

I think USMC is really some poor lost soul who sits alone at the “Rest Home” his family dumped him at 10 years ago. Thankfully, on their way out the door, they left him a computer, some lube, and some dollar bills so that he can buy a few friends, (at the rest home, dollar bills are good for Denture Cream and a couple of prunes).

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
3:33 pm

Why do we even waste our time arguing about the actions of ANY administration in the aftermath of events like Benghazi, NYC, Somalia, Bosnia, or wherever. The truth of the matter is, FACE IT…the U.S. government on various levels is in soooo deep in dark dealings around the world that when things like this happen they have to scramble to get the “story” straight for public consumption. Let’s just call it what it is – PROPAGANDA. Sometimes they do a good job, other times get sloppy. This is obviously one time they just got sloppy.

For so many who think they are dare I say it ENTITLED to some clear concise explanation because their stinkin’ tax dollars pay someone’s salary, understand this..you mean NOTHING in the grand scheme of things Vitches! Really I just get kinda sick of all the pretentiousness about everything in people. Stop being so damned naive. It’s killing the country, and just gives people like me more reason to be cynical. I do however sleep well at night. This administration will take a hit, Rice will likely resign, and IF Mitt Romney is elected you will get his chance to disappoint you all as well…and TRUST ME, he will just like they ALL have and do!

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

Oh please. It’s Clinton’s fault?

no more than you trying to “share” the blame with republicans in your last sentence

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:34 pm

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:35 pm

Thanks, Steve. So the issue is that the administration rushed to an incorrect conclusion, which might have impaired our ability to correctly respond to the situation?

I can buy that…

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:35 pm

Amen regnad!

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
3:35 pm

I’m sorry folks if I can’t debate very good.. “I’m just to polite”….

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
3:36 pm

U.S. Ambassador was raped before he was murdered- Examiner

Oh my USMC! I bet that headline, straight out of your “boy toy fantasies”, got you REALLY riled! Need anymore lube?

Dunwoody Granny

October 10th, 2012
3:36 pm

Perhaps because the Republicans are the kind of people who send out emails to employees saying, “I can’t tell you how to vote, but if Obama gets re-elected and my taxes are raised, I’ll fire you and shut this company down”?

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
3:36 pm

Jack in cumming:

You hit the nail on the head Jack. Its shows the glaring lack of leadership of this administration….

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:37 pm

But but but Obama is too beloved for this to happen! He apologized and made friends with the terrorist!

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:37 pm

JAY,

Not saying it’s his fault but his material cutting of our intelligence network in ME was certainly a significant and greatly overlooked brick in the wall…

http://blog.stephenleary.com/2008/09/intelligence-budgets-during-clinton.html

Rightwing Troll

October 10th, 2012
3:38 pm

“but….but….but…Ben, EVERYBODY knows it ’s conservatives who are racists and haters….”

The first truth from Ben’s piehole today…

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:40 pm

A CEO warns his staff of eminent danger to the org if taxes are raised and that’s bad? I think it’s worse to criticize a business owner who put his money and life into it and run it as they see fit

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
3:41 pm

@Miss Understood.

Maybe I misunderstood your post, but it almost looks as if you attributed my comment about USMC to Stevie Ray. That was of course from none other than me. Stevie Ray and I stand nowhere near each other on anything. Again I could be wrong, and maybe you referenced something else to him and then pasted my excerpt. Just wanted to clear that up if needed. Nothing beyond that.

Thomas

October 10th, 2012
3:41 pm

Very good. So we learn from Bookie that two wrongs make it right and the coach/leader/CEO is never responsible.

What color is the sky in the extremist world?

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:41 pm

The behavior and patriotism from the right should be documented in a movie called “Unhinged”.

No shame, no honesty, no reality and no patriotism.

How do you sleep at night?

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

The state department ignored the ambassador request as its election season an they needed to put out an image that al quesadilla is gone when Bon laden got smoked. Whose intel led to bin laden?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

Its only the optics that matter..

So no evidence needed, no facts…. its how Fox and the wingnuts present the optics because of the Obama hatred that matters. And because Bush was a Republican, the “optics” Fox and the wingnuts presented were “different”. Can the responses be any sillier and less intelligent? Next you’ll be citing WND like Ahem. :roll:

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:42 pm

REGNAD,

Point is that similar to rushing to the cameras to report on OBL despite having a treasure chest of information we could have used to secure our interests was example of this…the rushing out to deflect blame instead of investigating the matter sooner and reviewing with State department before hearing today would have been the responsible actions for sure. Despite all the liberal fright over dropping a team in there immediately, we should have done so anyway….now way those Libyan’s can confirm they captured anyone related to this attack..

too little time

October 10th, 2012
3:43 pm

Republicans will politicize any event involving loss of American lives at the hands of terrorists.

And Democrats will ignore them. Clinton ignored the FIRST WTC attack… and the attack on the USS Cole… and the failure to take Osama bin Laden into custody… This culminated in 9/11. Sandy Berger had to go steal documents from the National Archive to cover Clinton’s tracks.

Here is a TRUTH: ignore or downplay terrorist attacks, and they will escalate. THAT is why Republicans make sure to call a terrorist attack exactly what it is. Liberals refer to this as “politicizing”. All Obama had to do is say, ” Today, our embassy in Benghazi was attacked by terrorists, and our ambassador was killed”. His state department would still have to answer questions as to why more protection was not maintained, but to not tell the truth was completely dishonest.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:44 pm

Gay Bookman… When you write about curiosities I may focus on things that are truly curious. Like how the vp debate moderator was college chums with Barry. So chummy he attende her wedding of failed matrimony. Or how the UN ambassador is married to some ABC news big wig

DownInAlbany

October 10th, 2012
3:44 pm

Albany, I have seen no reputable news organization report that Stevens was raped, yet you seem to take a cruel pleasure in repeating and even stressing that notion. Do you somehow enjoy adding that apparently false humiliation to the burden that his family must bear?

Who do you consider reputable? The Washington Times, CNN? Maybe you should get out a little more.

No, I do not get any pleasure from it whatsoever, however, I think you think far too much of this piddly blog if you think they are logging in. haha

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:44 pm

Stevie Ray, as your own link points out, cuts were made in the intel community in the early ’90s, begun under the first George Bush, as part of the end of the Cold War. With the disappearance of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War, we simply didn’t NEED as many intel experts focused on a Soviet threat that no longer existed.

That tells you nothing about our intel capabilities directed at the Middle East. As your own link again points out, intel budgets were increased significantly in the late ’90s.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
3:45 pm

The republicans just sat by and allowed Obama to illegally invade Libya and should have immediately begun impeachment proceedings when it happened.

Ignorance in 2012 is more destructive than it was 10 years ago. Ignorance about the world around us, particularly from those who’ve got the world in their hands, is devastating.

It’s too bad they’ll never see the harm they cause until it’s clarified for them in a book or movie or some other media variation many years after it would have been meaningful.

Republicans – You. Are. Ignorant.

Deal with it.

Your Political Slogan for 2012? BACKWARDS!!!!!

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:45 pm

How about the curious arrest of the filmmaker?

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:45 pm

KEEPS,

So what do the facts have to do with campaigning for president? Both sides continue to use half truths and outright lies (See GOP and to lesser extent BO) in an attempt to influence voter behavior..there is actually now some STATE dept knowledge being released that can be mischaraterized to no end by GOP..BO’s ability to “kick Romney’s butt” in next debate just took a sharp turn in the opposite direction..

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:46 pm

Breaking News…. Not good for the Obama White House…

Diplomatic security in Libya ‘weak’ before attack, former leader of protection team testifies
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/10/14343052-diplomatic-security-in-libya-weak-before-attack-former-leader-of-protection-team-testifies?lite

DownInAlbany

October 10th, 2012
3:46 pm

USMC: that’s probably not a credible source to Jay since it doesn’t match his “commentary.”

Lee

October 10th, 2012
3:47 pm

Jay….But wait you elected Obama based on Hope and Change.

Let’s see, if you boss is wanting more production from you, go in his office and say that you are going to offer Hope and Change and see what happens.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:47 pm

The gop don’t have the facts about what happened and played politics like the media.

They should have waited on the FBI report and looked at cutting funding over 300 million to protect the embassies and consulates.

The gop accept no blame for this fact. Increase the funding gop like you will do 2 trillion for the military if mitt wins.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:49 pm

T. L. Time — “Clinton ignored the FIRST WTC attack…”

How do you figure that? Most of the responsible parties were caught, tried and convicted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
3:49 pm

If I were Romney in the next debate I would ask Barry how the arab spring is going? Ask how Afganistan is going? How much intel from gitmo led to bin laden? Applaud his courageous call in killing him.

Stevie Ray..Clowns to the left and Jokers to the right..here I am...

October 10th, 2012
3:49 pm

JAY

Gotta run out…will respond to your challenge when I return…

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:49 pm

The GOP took its anger to the rascal terrorist wrong f&cking country!

The left took their anger to some film maker Osama bin Laden.

You lose.

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
3:51 pm

“The first truth from Ben’s piehole today”

Well, except that I documented all the racist hate from the libs towards the young minority lady who supports Romney.

Liberals are HYSTERICAL. They deny over and over that Obama lied when it’s documented that he lied, and call me a liar fro posting a documented truth.

I think liberals live in an alternate dimension. Maybe Kamchak is on to something with all that world of gor crap.

Lee

October 10th, 2012
3:52 pm

JamVet…..But if OBL is dead then how did Al Qaeda attack us again? Nice talking point the fact is that Obama has started to ease up on the terrorists.

Thomas Heyward Jr

October 10th, 2012
3:53 pm

At the least……..Hillery Clinton should be fired.
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Listen to this unbelievable person CACKLE about war with Iran.
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Pure………unmitigated…………evil.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhBoF_pCHo

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

JamVet @ 3:49 — Agree.

While we were spazzing out over the possibility that Saddam Hussein was trying to build a-bombs in garages and caves (he wasn’t), we invaded Iraq and found dusty junk with seals we and the IAEA had put on back in 1991 and 1992.

And while we were d**king around with that, North Korea FINISHED building an atomic device and tested it.

Whoops. Maybe the lesson to be learned here is to not be a farking bonehead when it comes to keeping WMD out of the hands of lunatics.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

B-troll boy, go back to the kids table and quit asking stupid questions.

Or I’ll drone your ass back to the Beqaa Valley….

Regnad Kcin

October 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

“REGNAD,

Point is that similar to rushing to the cameras to report on OBL despite having a treasure chest of information we could have used to secure our interests was example of this…the rushing out to deflect blame instead of investigating the matter sooner and reviewing with State department before hearing today would have been the responsible actions for sure’

Thank you. And do conservatives think this is an issue that will “stick” in the general public?

joe

October 10th, 2012
3:54 pm

Fixed your headline:

Obama’s cover up of Benghazi terrorist attack quite curious.

Me thinks this is the last nail in his election coffin. Everyday with this president, his bearings appear to be more and more off. Yesterday it was him banging the big bird drum. Today it his complete 180 on what happened in Benghazi.

Not to mention that he is a complete failure on domestic and now foreign policy as well. He knows nothing except how to drive the USA into the ground.

How anyone can vote for this idiot is totally mind blowing…

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:55 pm

There are no reports on CNN or in the Washington Times that Stevens was raped, Albany.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/stevens.asp

Quite the contrary. The Washington Times reported that rumors of rape were begun by a Lebanese outlet, which attributed the claim to an Agence France Press report. But AFP has made it quite clear that no such report ever existed.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/sep/13/picket-report-murdered-us-ambassador-libya-reporte/#ixzz26Ka4wQsc

Now, if you nonetheless need to BELIEVE that he was raped for some reason, if you get a kick out of it, you go right ahead and do so. But the claim reveals a lot about you, and nothing at all about the ambassador or his fate.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:56 pm

Even in the minority, the gop destroy our country with unpatriotic attacks and conspiracy theories.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
3:56 pm

“GOP’s hyping of Benghazi attack quite curious”–JAY BOOKMAN

CNN: U.S. official sought more security for Benghazi post…
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/u-s-official-sought-more-security-for-benghazi-post/?hpt=wo_c2

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
3:57 pm

Liberalism 101 – Call anybody who posts facts you don’t like a liar, even if their facts are 100% documented true.

Liberals are a hoot.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
3:57 pm

How anyone can vote for this idiot is totally mind blowing…

Says the guy who voted for Bush/Cheney twice.

No cred, neocons.

None, nada, zero, zip.

lynnie gal

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

The Republicans are trying to politicize this event because they have nothing on Obama. The only thing they can do is hype and lie and try to dig around in old archives trying to pin something on him. But, they got nuthin’. Thus, the politicization of an event that any American would rally with the president about.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

Thomas,

She is retiring con.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

Again I could be wrong, and maybe you referenced something else to him and then pasted my excerpt. Just wanted to clear that up if needed. Nothing beyond that.

I separated the two comment with a ============

Sorry for the confusion.

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Jack: Like how the vp debate moderator was college chums with Barry. So chummy he attende her wedding of failed matrimony. Or how the UN ambassador is married to some ABC news big wig

Is it dark in your world? Do you hide up under your bed ever night, grabbing your teddy bear and wishing for the Good Fairy to make you a real boy? Ain’t you tired Miss Hilly?

Jack (Again): A CEO warns his staff of eminent danger to the org if taxes are raised and that’s bad? I think it’s worse to criticize a business owner who put his money and life into it and run it as they see fit

Jack. You is Smart. You is Kind. You is Sooooo Yesterday.

Republcian Political Slogan for 2012? BACKWARDS!!!!!

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

“How about the curious arrest of the filmmaker?

Curious? The man was on probation on fraud charges, under the condition that he not use the Internet. He used the Internet, thus violating his probation.

What happens when you violate the terms of probation?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
3:59 pm

Jay — “Quite the contrary. The Washington Times reported that rumors of rape were begun by a Lebanese outlet”

That is apparently the source cited in the link that USMC provided.

A shocking report has come from the Tayyar News Service in Lebanon that murdered United States Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens was raped before he was killed.

http://www.inquisitr.com/330504/ambassador-stevens-was-raped-before-his-murder-reports-claim/#HtyfK0KrqFFRZlt1.99

Just guessing here, but I suspect that USMC doesn’t give much credence to news sources from the Midddle East at other times.

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
4:00 pm

Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:25 pm

Albany, I have seen no reputable news organization report that Stevens was raped, yet you seem to take a cruel pleasure in repeating and even stressing that notion. Do you somehow enjoy adding that apparently false humiliation to the burden that his family must bear?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You mean he is LYING which would make him a LIAR? Oh noes, we can’t say that.

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
4:01 pm

lynnie gal The Republicans are trying to politicize this event because they have nothing on Obama

That would explain why Obama is running on his record instead of an attack after attack on Mitt.

joe

October 10th, 2012
4:01 pm

Bush & Chaney were very suspect, but Obama is infringing on Jimmy Carter territory, jamvet. Nothing lower than that…except blind liberals who will vote for a candidate who is heck bent on destroying the USA. How can you live with that…if you have kids, how can you look them in the eye and lie to them?
Pathetic…

USMC

October 10th, 2012
4:01 pm

Hillary Clinton reveals what REALLY led to Benghazi massacre – and demolishes White House claim it was triggered by anti-Islam film

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215431/Death-U-S-ambassador-Chris-Stevens-revealed-AK-47s-grenade-attacks-smoke-filled-safe-room.html#ixzz28vc2dwJN

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:02 pm

“The Republicans are trying to politicize this event because they have nothing on Obama. The only thing they can do is hype and lie and try to dig around in old archives trying to pin something on him. But, they got nuthin’”

Well, they “got nuthin’ ” except for the massive butt-kicking Romney laid on him in the debate, Obama’s four year record of miserable failure, both domestically and internationally, and his documented pattern of lies and deceit, etc.

So other than that, yeah, they “got nuthin’ ”

LMAO

getalife

October 10th, 2012
4:02 pm

Many on the right will lose it after the reelection of President Obama.

Good for the Navy Seal’s Mother that told mitt to stop playing politics with his death.

He took it out of his stump speech.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 10th, 2012
4:02 pm

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

On Wednesday morning, CNN anchor Soledad O’Brien asked the Utah Republican if he had “voted to cut the funding for embassy security.”

“Absolutely,” Chaffetz said. “Look we have to make priorities and choices in this country. We have…15,0000 contractors in Iraq. We have more than 6,000 contractors, a private army there, for President Obama, in Baghdad. And we’re talking about can we get two dozen or so people into Libya to help protect our forces. When you’re in tough economic times, you have to make difficult choices. You have to prioritize things.”

For the past two years, House Republicans have continued to deprioritize the security forces protecting State Department personnel around the world. In fiscal year 2011, lawmakers shaved $128 million off of the administration’s request for embassy security funding. House Republicans drained off even more funds in fiscal year 2012 — cutting back on the department’s request by $331 million.

~ Huff Post

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I guess it was just a bump in the budget.

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:04 pm

“Jay

October 10th, 2012
3:58 pm

“What happens when you violate the terms of probation?”

If it’s an immigration violation, nothing happens, per executive order of the liar-and-oath-violator-in-chief, Barack Obama.

Dare exercise your free speech rights by criticizing Islam, however, and they’ll climb any mountain to nail your hide.

Joseph

October 10th, 2012
4:06 pm

It was the movie. It was the altitude. It was because I’m to polite. It was because I had a cold. It was because of the moderator. It was Bush’s fault…. I could go on and on. I have never seen a President blame so much…. Shameless….

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:06 pm

Did he rip the tags off of mattresses too? The guy was targeted as the face of the attacks rather then the real reason…. Arab spring nothing more them radical Islam spreading through north Africa.

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:06 pm

“Many on the right will lose it after the reelection of President Obama.”

Wrong on both counts.

Thanks for playing though.

Matti

October 10th, 2012
4:06 pm

Simple Explanation:

Re: Event One: GOP = Party First! No way it’s their President’s fault.

Re: Event Two: GOP = Party First! It must be “not their President’s” fault.

Ray Tardinski

October 10th, 2012
4:07 pm

Lynnie gal – “The only thing they can do is hype and lie and try to dig around in old archives trying to pin something on him”

Please give some credible reference to the “lie” comment. Odumbo is such an easy target on foreign policy it is almost unfair to even have the next debate.

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
4:09 pm

Blame America first!

getalife

October 10th, 2012
4:09 pm

So, after another attack the left can call our President a terrorist sympathizer, refuse to unite to show patriotism and play politics.

The left can refuse to cooperate, obstruct and focus on getting the President.

Right cons?

You set a horrible precedent and example for your kids.

You should be stripped of your citizenship.

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
4:09 pm

Dare exercise your free speech rights by criticizing Islam, however, and they’ll climb any mountain to nail your hide.

Wow, the complete gutter scum that the right wing fanatical nutcases embrace is beyond me. I don’t know why I’m so surprised, I mean they ARE led by a whacked out druggie who should be in jail for his crimes. A man so strung out on drugs he destroyed his own hearing , Rush Limbaugh.

Since they are led by a criminal it’s not surprising they worship criminals like Mark Basseley Youssef and complain when he is tossed in jail for violating his parole………….

Randy Ayn

October 10th, 2012
4:10 pm

I’m still lost as to why anyone would think Obama would benefit if the killing were attributed to a mob vs. organized terrorists. Were they wrong initially or wrong later? I doubt we still know all the details. It’s become abundantly clear that we cannot always defend ourselves against determined terrorists. Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama all had terrorist attacks on their watch, the worst by far being under Reagan and Bush 2. To somehow say that this attack is worse than all the others is really more of the Big Lie tactic taken by the GOP to smear this administration. Keep a stink in the air – maybe people will forget how badly the GOP stunk things up and buy into it again. A lot of people are stupid, so it might work – and, without a blue dress, it’s all they’ve got.

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:10 pm

“The only thing they can do is hype and lie and try to dig around in old archives trying to pin something on him”

Is Dan Rather looking into Obama’s Texas Air Guard records again?

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:10 pm

The filmmaker I am sure was only arrested due to parole violation. Cameras just happened to be in the neighborhood. I guess the 70k ad on Pakistani tv was to make sure the Muslim
Community understood that America is against intolerance to religion unless you re catholic

USMC

October 10th, 2012
4:11 pm

On foreign policy, OBAMA lacks discipline, professionalism…

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:13 pm

USMC — “On foreign policy, OBAMA lacks discipline, professionalism…”

Huh?

Could you elaborate on how a President would *exhibit* discipline and professionalism in his foreign policy, please?

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:13 pm

Fred, you’re a funny guy. I mean, I know you don’t mean to be, but hysterical nonetheless.

Mark Basseley Youssef is gutter scum for tweaking radical Islam, but I’m supposed to just live with all the vile, filthy attacks on Christians that happen right here on this blog and all over America.

Funny stuff.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:13 pm

My biggest problem with he attack was not the attack but how we blindly backed this Arab spring. It was put out by the media to be the blooming of democracy but really was the spread of radical Islam.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
4:14 pm

Shame on you cons.

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
4:15 pm

Jack – …Muslim Community understood that America is against intolerance to religion unless you re catholic
____________________________________

what the heck does that mean?…seriously
Americans are against Catholics or that Catholics are religious intolerant

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:15 pm

B. Shockley — “I’m supposed to just live with all the vile, filthy attacks on Christians that happen right here on this blog and all over America.”

Maybe you could riot, break into a building and kill the occupants. Yeah, that’ll show us infidels.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:15 pm

He lacks discipline in that he has no vision on foreign policy other then to placate to people who will dislike us regardless. He lacks professionalism in that he is coming off as a guy who would rather cover up error in supporting the Arab spring over taking a hard line against anyone attacking our soil.

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
4:16 pm

getalife, you are a true hero!

Jumping on any grenade that obama throws out there.

You might just get a form letter and stamped signature!

Aquagirl

October 10th, 2012
4:17 pm

Hillary Clinton reveals what REALLY led to Benghazi massacre

I really have to give USMC credit for not slowing down even when he’s bodyslammed. He spends so much time with a foot in his mouth I think he’s a centipede.

Hey, USMC, did you ever apologize for calling your Marine buddy a liar about the “unloaded” weapons at the embassy? Aren’t you embarrassed when you’re shown to be extremely gullible, gulping down the brown effluvia of the internet? I half expect you to show up some morning bragging how you got the Brooklyn Bridge for half price.

Thankfully I don’t believe you’re representative of our Marines, otherwise we wouldn’t let them guard an outhouse in the middle of Nebraska.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:18 pm

jack: How about the curious arrest of the filmmaker?

Oh woe is Jack — Jack can’t use “google” and find out stuff for himself! I “googled” the Muslim film maker, and this is what I got:

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, was convicted in 2010 for federal check fraud and sentenced to 21 months in prison. Under terms of his probation, he was not allowed to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer.

Dang Jack there goes your “conspiracy theory”!!

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
4:18 pm

Did Mitt Romney kill a woman and lie about it? I can find internet links (just like USMC). Read for yourself:

http://skydancingblog.com/2012/08/14/afternoon-open-thread-did-mitt-romney-lie-about-his-1968-car-crash/

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:18 pm

Erwin it means that our prezzie is quick to denounce a Olmert that no one saw to anyone that will listen and claim how tetany we are to others beliefs but he will force catholic schools to have birth control covered in health plan. Will he make Muslim
Schools cover same sex benefits? Hmmm

Lee

October 10th, 2012
4:18 pm

Aquagirl….Tell us all how Clinton has told the Truth regarding this event? Being that the committee is begging for someone to tell the truth.

Tinkerella

October 10th, 2012
4:20 pm

Great post, Granny! But, but, but….it was Obozo’s fault….or HIllary! WE defunded security but its not our fault….nevermind…..it was Big Bird

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:21 pm

Miss understood I am well awre of his parole. Ian more suspicious of the fact that his arrest was so highly profiled… You know… Since not parole violations are not front page news. My point is the film had nothing to do with the attacks but was a reason the prezzie could use to cover up the real reason for the attacks….radical islam is alive and well and spreading I this arab spring

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:21 pm

Aquagirl — “. . . gulping down the brown effluvia . . . ”

Ooh! Check out the big brain on Miz Aquagirl! :D

You get points for using the word “effluvia” properly in an internet posting!

Now, let’s see you do that with “eructate.” :D

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
4:22 pm

What is it with lib’s obsession with Big Birds and Etch a Sketches?

They sure like to play with toys.

goo goo ga ga

Al Gore

October 10th, 2012
4:22 pm

I blame the altitude or lack there of for the attacks. Maybr the islamic folk need a good
Massage. Nothing like a good rub and tug to ease the tension!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:23 pm

Since not parole violations are not front page news

So Obama made a parole violation front page news…… how? :roll: The ODS is strong in these conned.

AmericaShrugged

October 10th, 2012
4:24 pm

Thanks for the civics lesson. I didn’t realize the House could pass budgfet/spending bills all on it’s own without the Dem Senate voting and the Dem President signing it. I think you meant to post the Dem Senate and President approved spending bills with millions of dollars in cuts for embassy protection.

Ray Tardinski

October 10th, 2012
4:24 pm

“I really have to give USMC credit for not slowing down even when he’s bodyslammed. He spends so much time with a foot in his mouth I think he’s a centipede.

Hey, USMC, did you ever apologize for calling your Marine buddy a liar about the “unloaded” weapons at the embassy? Aren’t you embarrassed when you’re shown to be extremely gullible, gulping down the brown effluvia of the internet? I half expect you to show up some morning bragging how you got the Brooklyn Bridge for half price.

Thankfully I don’t believe you’re representative of our Marines, otherwise we wouldn’t let them guard an outhouse in the middle of Nebraska.”

Me thinks aquagirl is a water-head. USMC posts links to back up his comments and out you libtards on the left. Latest polling numbers show over-whelming support for Romney by our military. Most of my fellow veterans and current military acquaintances overwhelmingly support Romney over Obarrasement.

http://militarytimes.com/projects/polls/2012/results/politics/

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:24 pm

Jack — “He lacks discipline in that he has no vision on foreign policy other then to placate to people who will dislike us regardless.”

Okay, how’s he done that? Specific examples, please. And please don’t fall back on the “apology tour” nonsense or something similar, as that’s been debunked here repeatedly in recent weeks.

“He lacks professionalism in that he is coming off as a guy who would rather cover up error in supporting the Arab spring over taking a hard line against anyone attacking our soil.”

Who attacked our soil, exactly?

And why can’t we support the Arab Spring *and* take a hard line on the attackers (once we’ve found out who they are). You seem to think that the attackers and the revolutionaries are on the same side, and I don’t believe that’s been established.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:25 pm

I agree with Moonbatty. What was the obsession with Big Bird…. why did Obama even mention it during the debate? … [what? he didn't mention it. Romney did?.... :roll: ]

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:25 pm

Its only racism, feminism, religious intolerant if your a conservative. Meanwhile we have a federy funded art exhibit in NYC of a cross in urine, bill maher using the c word on plain and a prezzie supported Arab spring where Muslim
Brotherhood and there tolerant ways towards women in north africa

Thomas

October 10th, 2012
4:26 pm

Darden Restaurants Tests Hiring Of More Part-Time Employees To Avoid Obamacare Costs

Jay can you spin this with a picture of a fat guy and bleach blonde with a boob job?

iBS Aplenty

October 10th, 2012
4:28 pm

@Miss Underwood

I think USMC is really some poor lost soul who sits alone at the “Rest Home” his family dumped him at 10 years ago. Thankfully, on their way out the door, they left him a computer, some lube, and some dollar bills so that he can buy a few friends, (at the rest home, dollar bills are good for Denture Cream and a couple of prunes).
——————————————————————————-

While the old girls at the rest home are a bit wrinkly, we don’t call ‘em ‘prunes’ and they cost considerable more than some dollar bills. Just thought you’d like to know.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:29 pm

Jack in Cumming, the major U.S. commitment to bring democracy to the Islamic Middle East began in the Bush administration. In fact, I remember being accused by conservatives of harboring anti-Muslim bias when I suggested that it was a bit much to expect swift conversion from feudalism to democracy. But that was nonetheless the stated goal of the Bush administration:

As President Bush put it in 2003:

“Iraq’s progress toward self-determination and democracy brings hope to other oppressed people in the region and throughout the world. It is the rise of democracy that tyrants fear and terrorists seek to undermine. The people who yearn for liberty and opportunity in countries like Iran and throughout the Middle East are watching and they are praying for our success in Iraq.”

Even with that language, I’m not blaming Bush for the Arab Spring. What’s happening there is the product of thousands of years of history, and the idea that the United States can either create that movement or halt it is foolish. Believe it or not, they do things for their own reasons, in their own time.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:29 pm

Lol Thomas! Also the darden CEO is a library’s contributor so I guess we can throw the theory of coercing votes out the window

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:30 pm

He lacks professionalism in that he is coming off as a guy who would rather cover up error in supporting the Arab spring over taking a hard line against anyone attacking our soil.

Good Morning Class! Can anyone tell me when was the last attack on American soil? I’m sure Jackie can — he gets all his information from Breibart and Fox News — and they’re NEVER wrong……….. :roll:

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:30 pm

“GOP’s hyping of Benghazi attack quite curious”

Just the opinion of an ancestrally uppity plantation liberal, but I think the GOP is perhaps not so unwittingly joining forces with the fundamentalist terrorists in seeking to undermine the present Libyan regime. They don’t want to give the Obama policy there any credit and are perfectly willing to do all within their power to discredit the best chance we’ve had yet to make a friend in the upheavals of the Arab Spring. The terrorists don’t want it to come to fruition either. Politics do, indeed, make strange bedfellows.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
4:30 pm

What were the votes on those embassy cuts? I have heard they were bi-partisan but to honest I haven’t seen the roll call of the votes.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:31 pm

So jay the Arab spring was or was not supported through words and weapons by Barry?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
4:31 pm

“USMC — “On foreign policy, OBAMA lacks discipline, professionalism…”
Huh?
Could you elaborate on how a President would *exhibit* discipline and professionalism in his foreign policy, please?”–JOE

“On foreign policy, Romney lacks discipline, professionalism”–JAY BOOKMAN
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/13/on-foreign-policy-romney-lacks-discipline-professionalism/

You stepped right into it, Joe. Here, here’s something to wipe it off with. :lol:

Lee

October 10th, 2012
4:32 pm

Miss Understood. November 2009….your point?

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:32 pm

MISS UNDERSTOOD

Oh, Sweet, if you only KNEW who USMC is, where he lives, and who he runs with! :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:33 pm

What were the votes on those embassy cuts? I have heard they were bi-partisan but to honest I haven’t seen the roll call of the votes.

Oh please…. you don’t know how to look up these things yourself. Perhaps you need a charter school for google?

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
4:34 pm

Actually I am hearing that that 149 House Democrats voted for the cuts and 147 House Republicans also voted for the cuts. That looks pretty bi-partisan to me.

Allow me to do further research or feel free to chime in.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:34 pm

Actually Lee the lay attack was sept 11 this year as our embassy is American soil. How bout this for curious…. How did the attackers know so quickly about the safe house the ambassador was taken too?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:35 pm

USMC — “You stepped right into it, Joe. Here, here’s something to wipe it off with.”

I stepped into nothing, sir. I merely asked you to elaborate on your claim. If the best you can do is post one of Jay’s blog posts in response, I’ll gladly call this a surrender on your part.

Shall I do that, or would you prefer to give it another go?

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:36 pm

So do libs actually believe we are better now the four years ago in terms of foreign relations?

Jhunt163

October 10th, 2012
4:36 pm

Granny @ 4:02 The state department testified today that money had nothing to do with reducing the security staffing. It was all done by a security assessment.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
4:37 pm

Settle down Steve USA

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:37 pm

getalife

Have you heard anything about Tiger Woods and McElroy pulling out of the Turkish tourney?

RF

October 10th, 2012
4:37 pm

“Just the opinion of an ancestrally uppity plantation liberal”

ROFL!

And you’re right- it would seem prudent at this point to keep the region in seeming chaos to undermine the president’s foreign policy. That way a guy with NO experience except to tick off the French and British can easily win the election….right? I have to squeeze my eyes shut and hold my breath until I get dizzy to get anywhere close to understanding conservative thought, but I do try.

Aquagirl

October 10th, 2012
4:38 pm

Aquagirl….Tell us all how Clinton has told the Truth regarding this event?

Lee, I have no idea if she’s telling us the truth or not. And you know what? I don’t care. Because telling everybody everything you know is a bad idea when you’re at war.

What I care about is piles of dead terrorists. Obama and Clinton have delivered plenty of those, way more than GW Bush—who thought he got the job done by launching wars by mistake and then strutting around on aircraft carriers. So what the current administration tells the press is entirely irrelevant to me. Frankly I hope they lie through their teeth. The last thing you want creepy people to know is that you’re onto them. They can find out via drone.

If you and USMC want to sit around and read fake news reports focused on the ambassador’s bunghole knock yourselves out. With the advent of the internet you’re no longer confined to a smelly plywood cubicle in the sleazy part of town and you’re (unfortunately) free to share with the entire world.

There’s your truth Lee, now I’ll leave you to conduct your personal war on terror, which consists of whining from your armchair. Let me know how that works out.

Ray Tardinski

October 10th, 2012
4:38 pm

+Good Morning Class! Can anyone tell me when was the last attack on American soil? I’m sure Jackie can — he gets all his information from Breibart and Fox News — and they’re NEVER wrong……….. ”

11/5/2009 – Thirteen dead at the hands of a muslim psychiatrist. The Odumber administration calls it workplace violence while the rest of the world calls it terrorism.

Jhunt163

October 10th, 2012
4:39 pm

Lt. Col. Wood also testified that once the two security teams were pulled, that their Danger pay increased due to the increased security threat.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:40 pm

Keep- You are really an A-hole 24/7. I feel sorry for your neighbors. Feel free to Google A-hole there Skippy!

Steve, thanks for the tip. I did google that as you asked. Your photo came up. :lol:

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:40 pm

Well, let’s see Thomas.

For beginners, I see that Darden Restaurants stock price has more than doubled since Obama took office, so it’s not doing too bad. Profits were up 9 percent in the last quarter.

I also see, in the story that you cite:

“Given the challenging job market, Darden has been able to offer lower pay rates to new hires, as well as cut bonuses for general managers as sales have stagnated. Servers at Red Lobster now handle four tables at a time, instead of three.

And last year, the company also put workers on a “tip sharing” program, meaning waiters and waitresses share their tips with other employees such as busboys and bartenders. That allows Darden to pay more workers a far lower “tip credit wage” of $2.13, rather than the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.”

So Darden’s willingness to squeeze every penny from its minimum wage workers is what you might call a pre-existing condition, with little or nothing to do with ObamaCare.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
4:41 pm

Jack — “So do libs actually believe we are better now the four years ago in terms of foreign relations?”

I can’t speak for *all* libs, but I certainly think so.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
4:42 pm

Keep-

Was it the one with me above or below your wife?

I talked about the article and you as usual started in with the personal attacks. I am tired of your game, from now on you will be treated on how you act.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:42 pm

I hate to keep picking on you Jack, but DAMN………………….

Jack – I guess the 70k ad on Pakistani tv was to make sure the Muslim…..

Jack, no matter what Fox News told you, (or Boortz, or Limpbitscuit), Pakistan is NOT America. Get that? NOt. Not. NOT! The Government of Pakistan runs the television stations. No matter the amount of money you think someone paid to get something on television, the government does NOT have to put it on.

Oh why do I bother? Here maybe you can understand this Jack…………

You is kind. You is important. You is hoodwinked, probably drugged up and drunk and in need of some serious help. You is in need of some healing. The end.

From Keep: The ODS is strong in these conned.

Its not the ODS so much as it is the Liquor — JUST SAY NO! Cons. Just say no!

Republicans 2012 Political Slogan -BACKWARDS!!!!

moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)

October 10th, 2012
4:43 pm

“What I care about is piles of dead terrorists. Obama and Clinton have delivered plenty of those, way more than GW Bush”

Hahaha! Link please…

RF

October 10th, 2012
4:43 pm

“They can find out via drone.”

And if that doesn’t work, you send in the special forces! I’m always intrigued by the conservative knee-jerk reaction to want a ground war. They’re messy, expensive, and haven’t worked very well since WWII. You’d think we would have learned that by now, but noooooo, we have to go in and spend billions to end up little better off after ten years. The only good that comes out of it is the lucrative defense contractors make a buttload of money.

straitroad

October 10th, 2012
4:43 pm

Jay, your head is in the sand.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:44 pm

“Thanks for the civics lesson. I didn’t realize the House could pass budgfet/spending bills all on it’s own without the Dem Senate voting and the Dem President signing it. I think you meant to post the Dem Senate and President approved spending bills with millions of dollars in cuts for embassy protection.

I see your civics lesson is incomplete, Shrugged. The House initially passed and demanded much DEEPER cuts in embassy security, and the cuts that did make it into law were negotiated with the Senate and White House, which sought no cuts at all and in fact increases.

You see, spending cuts can have consequences. Sometimes serious consequences.

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:44 pm

RT

I thought I had something of a handle on conservative thought, but what’s out there parading as conservative and has taken over the GOP (which I’d never vote for for fear of my Granny’s grey ghost coming to smite me!), is just plumb bat sh*t crazy…they’ll sink the ship of state to get the captain…

weetamoe

October 10th, 2012
4:45 pm

Some facts about 9/11: Colleen Rowley memo, Jamie Gorelick, Sandy Berger, Charlie Wilson, Blind Sheik, attack on Cole in Yemen–Know how to connect dots?
Benghazi: Obama slept
Meanwhile try to find script of today’s speech by reporter Lara Logan who survived a brutal attack while reporting from * Arab spring *uprising in Cairo.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:45 pm

11/5/2009 – Thirteen dead at the hands of a muslim psychiatrist. The Odumber administration calls it workplace violence while the rest of the world calls it terrorism.

Ray – You is kind. You is important. You is crazy.

The End.

moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)

October 10th, 2012
4:47 pm

Miss Understood: Hiya Debbie Do Right!!!

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
4:47 pm

Anybody who kills an ambassador is a terrorist. Why does the GOP have this fixation on whether the killers were carrying their terrorists membership cards or not? Because, it creates FUD – Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt – and that’s how they govern and that’s how they win elections. USMC is part of the process.

Erwin's cat

October 10th, 2012
4:48 pm

Aquagirl – What I care about is piles of dead terrorists. Obama and Clinton have delivered plenty of those, way more than GW Bush

same could be said for dead US soldiers in Afghanistan too

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:48 pm

Steve-USA, you really shouldn’t have done that.

oh well.

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
4:49 pm

Keep jumping on grenades for Obama, libs.

Jhunt163

October 10th, 2012
4:49 pm

Jay @ 4:44 “You see, spending cuts can have consequences. Sometimes serious consequences”

Again today under testimony the state department was specifically asked about spending cuts and they stated funding did not play into the decision. The decision was based off of the security assessment at the time.

Jhunt163

October 10th, 2012
4:50 pm

But spin it any way you can

RF

October 10th, 2012
4:50 pm

josef: and it amazes me how quickly they went crazy. I was concerned about them a bit in the 90’s, but electing GWB seemed to calm them a bit. Since ‘08, the patients at the asylum are getting weirder and weirder…

The ship’s listing and the band keeps playing since there are only enough lifeboats for 1% of the passengers…

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
4:51 pm

…the rape and murder of our ambassador is beyond me.

Wow!

Exposing your own rape fetishism to make a political point.

The breitbart awards committee should create a new category for blogger willing to take one for the team.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:52 pm

Anybody who kills an ambassador is a terrorist

I disagree. A murderer yes. But not every murderer is a terrorist. But part of the GOP strategy is to make everything “terrorist” outside of the country…. mass murders here in the US are “loners” and “deranged”

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:52 pm

“The angel Moroni”

With that as a monniker, forgive me if I don’t put much credence in or respect for anything you might post. Tacky, trashy, ill-bred and ill-mannered.

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
4:52 pm

Still haven’t heard the answer – was Romney responsible for a woman’s death and then lie about it?

Lee

October 10th, 2012
4:52 pm

Aquagirl….you mean kind of like a “bump in the road”? Pathetic

Ahem

October 10th, 2012
4:53 pm

I think the best way to answer Jay’s question is possibly the shortest: Coverup.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:53 pm

“Again today under testimony the state department was specifically asked about spending cuts and they stated funding did not play into the decision. The decision was based off of the security assessment at the time.”

Good. I’m relieved to hear that.

RF

October 10th, 2012
4:53 pm

“it creates FUD – Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt – and that’s how they govern and that’s how they win elections.”

Thanks for a clear, concise summary of the Romney Campaign.

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
4:53 pm

Josef – you only have to hit the enter button once. The angel Moroni has spoken.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:54 pm

josef: Oh, Sweet, if you only KNEW who USMC is, where he lives, and who he runs with!

I’m sure that Old Gray Mare, (USMC), ain’t what she used to be, but if I knew who he “ran with”; I’d probably run the other way. I prefer a “man/woman” with something more between their ears than sh###t for brains.

Sorry.

BTW your assessment of 4:30 was very enlightening — and thought provoking. Thanks.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
4:54 pm

Ahem: I think the best way to answer Jay’s question is possibly the shortest: Coverup.

Did you forget the link to WND again?

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
4:55 pm

RF – it’s not just romney, it’s the entire GOP. Making people afraid is their bread and butter. I think it’s time for both sides to just let it go and play that way.

Gurn Blansdon

October 10th, 2012
4:55 pm

Anybody who kills an ambassador is a terrorist. Or has watched a You Tube video.

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:56 pm

RF

“The ship’s listing and the band keeps playing since there are only enough lifeboats for 1% of the passengers…”

And you can bet the women and children won’t be first…

Seriously, though, the speed with which they went bonkers scares me…

Ray Tardinski

October 10th, 2012
4:56 pm

Jay- “For beginners, I see that Darden Restaurants stock price has more than doubled since Obama took office, so it’s not doing too bad. Profits were up 9 percent in the last quarter.”

What a simpleton you are. Clearly you have never run a business. Somehow in your fairy-tale land you seek to imply the stock price doubled because of Obama then you cite how the owner curbed costs just to pinch a penny. Damn the business owner for keeping the company profitable and increasing the value to investors (his job btw). You of course missed the point where he states he will lay off workers if his costs increase due to Obama. Thanks for pointed out how successful he has been with the stock quote. Who do you think the American people will listen to, a successful biz leader, and community organizer or a liberal opinion writer without a clue?

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
4:56 pm

mass murders here in the US are “loners” and “deranged”

Unless they’re Muslim — then they’re not only terrorists, but terrorists blatantly overlooked by the Obama Adminstration.

FAst and Furious Lives!!!

Scooter

October 10th, 2012
4:57 pm

The Benghazi attack happened on 9/11 and the White House told us it was a response to an obscure video. That should’ve insulted everyone’s intelligence.

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:57 pm

Moron-ee…

Say what you will, but le Petit Prince of the Liberal Plantation has low friends in high places… :-)

Kimmer

October 10th, 2012
4:57 pm

OK Jay since you asked:

1) You are looking at the events of 9/11 from a post-9/11 perspective. As someone has already pointed out the security in place at the time made it virtually impossible to stop the method of attack that was used.

2) The intelligence briefing that terrorists plan to strike somewhere in the US is just a wee less specific than terrorists plan to strike our ambassador in Libya.

3) Forget about #1 and 2 above. The biggest difference is that the administration’s handling of the attack on Benghazi smells like either a cover-up or incompetence. When terrorists attacked on 9/11 GWB called it what it was and condemned the terrorists. When terrorists attacked Benghazi Obama somehow came up with this cockamamie story about a video. The president then proceeded to talk about how reprehensible THE VIDEO was and apologize for it?!?! It also just so happens that a terrorist attack hurts the narrative that he’s been blowing about how he has things under control in the middle east. Now it turns out the video had nothing to do with it and his own state department never implied that it did. So where did Obama come up with this story and why?

Finally, Bush’s handling of 9/11 and the war in Iraq was very much a political topic in 2004 when he ran for re-election.

Aquagirl

October 10th, 2012
4:58 pm

Hahaha! Link please…

Here’s some MAJOR ones. Most had a few buddies who were presumably not along for a beer run.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/the-terrorist-notches-on-obamas-belt/

Hell to the yes, Mr. President and Madam Secretary.

Ahem

October 10th, 2012
4:58 pm

The Darden restaurant group (Long Horn Steakhouse; Olive Garden; Red Lobster; etc.) along with Progressive Insurance, both have owners / officers that are big time Obama donors and supporters.
I don’t support boycotts, unlike many liberals, but thought some might want to know this.

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
4:58 pm

Ben Shockley

October 10th, 2012
4:13 pm

Fred, you’re a funny guy. I mean, I know you don’t mean to be, but hysterical nonetheless.

Mark Basseley Youssef is gutter scum for tweaking radical Islam, but I’m supposed to just live with all the vile, filthy attacks on Christians that happen right here on this blog and all over America.

Funny stuff.
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Wow, you ARE simple aren’t you. You mean he was on probation for making an antio islamic video? Really? That’s what the druggie Rush told you? Naw, this guy was Rush’s best buddy, he was arrested convited and spent time for making Meth. He’s your other God, Ayn Rands kinda guy since she was a big meth head. He also failed to pay his taxes…… oh that’s cool that makes him like Romney…… Oh and he files bankruptcy then doesn’t pay what he’s owed, just like Donald Trump. I mean this guy is a PERFCT REPUBLICAN CRIMINAL. HE’S A DRUGGIE WHO STEALS, DEFRAUDS BANKS, AND DOESN’T PAY HIS TAXES.

NOT PAYING TAXES AND FAILING TO DISCHARGE BANKRUPCYAssociated Press: In 1996, a lien for $194,000 was filed against Nakoula’s gas station for unpaid taxes, penalties, and interest dating from 1989 to 1992. A $106,000 lien was filed against him in 1997.He filed for bankruptcy protection in 2000, owing several banks a total of $166,500, but later failing to make payments under the bankruptcy plan. A $191,000 tax lien was filed against him in 2006.

DRUG CHARGESThe Daily Beast: Nakoula was arrested by the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department in 1997 after being pulled over and found to be in possession of ephedrine, hydroiodic acid, and $45,000 in cash; he was charged with intent to manufacture methamphetamine He pleaded guilty and was sentenced in 1997 to one year in Los Angeles County Jail and three years probation. According to the Los Angeles County District Attorney, he violated probation in 2002 and was re-sentenced to another year in county jail.

BANK FRAUD AND IDENTITY THEFTWIKI: In 2010, Nakoula pleaded no contest to federal charges of bank fraud in California. Nakoula had opened bank accounts using fake names and stolen Social Security numbers, including one belonging to a 6-year-old child, and deposited checks from those accounts to withdraw at ATMs. Nakoula’s June 2010 sentencing transcript shows that after being arrested, he testified against an alleged ring leader of the fraud scheme, in exchange for a lighter sentence. He was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison, followed by five years probation (supervised release), and ordered to pay $794,701 in restitution. He was sent to prison, then to a halfway house, and was released from custody in June 2011. A few weeks later, he began working on Innocence of Muslims. Conditions of Nakoula’s probation include not using aliases and not using the Internet without prior approval from his probation officer

Yeah, I’m funny but YOU Shockley are pathetic for calling this guy anything other than the crook he is. But then again you ARE a Republican so covering up for crooks is your way of life.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
4:59 pm

“Somehow in your fairy-tale land you seek to imply the stock price doubled because of Obama then you cite how the owner curbed costs just to pinch a penny.

I see. So presidents — at least Democratic presidents — cannot share the credit when stock prices and profits soar, but deserve the blame when they fall.

The opposite is of course true under Republican presidents.

Thanks for clearing that up, Ray.

josef

October 10th, 2012
4:59 pm

Miss Understood

Thanks for the compliment…

I do get a kick out of the responses the USMC though, the boy is a master chain puller…he don’t mess with me, though…he knows better… :-)

Liberal Pariah

October 10th, 2012
5:00 pm

Jay, why did you call out Jeff when he was the one called an A-hole first? Where’s the rebuke of the Liberal with no class.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
5:01 pm

…they’ll sink the ship of state to get the captain…

jonix, what do you expect?

They’ve trickle down groveled for decades on end with no real wage increases to kiss 1% ass…

As Mr. Rundgren wrote in the Freak Parade

In a world full of freaks
You can creep, you can crawl
But the world’s biggest freak
Is the one with no balls.

Welcome to the ballless GOP…

Michael

October 10th, 2012
5:01 pm

This is not a very good example of a cover up. It’s now less than 30 days after the event, and all parties close to the situation seem to agree on the sequence of events.
By comparison when Pat Tillman was killed in Afghanistan in 2004, his death was attributed to hostile fire. The explanation of friendly fire was not disclosed until 2007. Now, that is a serious cover up.
Also, there were a number of members of the same unit that survived, so many eye witnesses were available. That contrasts with Bengazi, where all the Americans were killed.
Also, the anti muslim film had encited demonstrations in several middle eastern countries. Most of them were properly attributed to reactions to the film. By the way the film maker was not arrested for making the film. He apparently had violated parole on other felony charges.
Obama did not apologize for the film, he has said that it was not sponsored by America, and we did not support it, even though it is permitted under free speech.
The republicans in congress are not interested in a hearing. They want to extend this situation to undermine the work Obama has done reducing al quaeda in Pakistan/Afghanistan. Also, they don’t want people to remember that Obama authorized the mission that got Osama.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:01 pm

“2) The intelligence briefing that terrorists plan to strike somewhere in the US is just a wee less specific than terrorists plan to strike our ambassador in Libya.

Honest question: I haven’t seen where the intel was that specific. Do you have a source?

getalife

October 10th, 2012
5:01 pm

The cons showed they wanted daffy and the other dictators to win the Arab Spring.

Liberal Pariah

October 10th, 2012
5:02 pm

I meant Steve :-)

Thomas

October 10th, 2012
5:03 pm

So Jaydi then you must have picketed Jim Kennedy’s office for days over this one:
Cox Enterprises has filed paperwork with the Georgia Department of Labor indicating that it will lay off 150 people in Kennesaw, the location of the Atlanta-Journal Constitution’s north Cobb distribution center. Really, one of the largest private companies has the audacity to lay off low wage folks just to give the billionaire owners more coin? And you were so mad you…..

So the stock market increase is Obama’s doing while severe underemployment is Bush’s fault? hey why not- it’s your blog.

My next lesson form Big Bookie is that it better to be unemployed than underemployed.

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
5:03 pm

RayTard, if Darden can cut headcount and expense without cutting revenues even more, then they will. I doubt it will be any frontline people, you know, part of the 47% who make too little to pay taxes, as it’s hard to make a sandwich without someone to slap the bread together. So, it may be back office people. If they’re able to cut there, then they must have had a bloated staff to start with.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:03 pm

Aw man moonbat!! How’d ya know? I’ve GOT to get new material!!!
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The breitbart awards committee should create a new category for blogger willing to take one for the team.

Over & Over & Over & Oooooo big dadddy Over & Over again……………. He has the best of both worlds. Blogging all day for an insipid website AND catering to his rape fantasy! (supposedly or allegedly catering to…..got to put that in so I won’t get sued…..)

getalife

October 10th, 2012
5:03 pm

The first intell was wrong.

That is the story.

RF

October 10th, 2012
5:04 pm

“The biggest difference is that the administration’s handling of the attack on Benghazi smells like either a cover-up or incompetence”

Versus the smell of bullsh#t that was floating all over the WH after those pesky WMD’s turned out to be fictional “intel”.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:04 pm

I said it first after another personal attack. I still shouldn’t have disrespected Jay because this is his domain..

I apologize to Jay and to my fellow posters.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:04 pm

Pariah, I don’t know who “Jeff” is, but as far as I can tell Steve was the first and only to call someone an A-hole. If I’m wrong, please let me know.

getalife

October 10th, 2012
5:05 pm

Who got the intell wrong?

Ask the intell agencies to see w’s reform failed.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:05 pm

Ray Tard — “Clearly you have never run a business. Somehow in your fairy-tale land you seek to imply the stock price doubled because of Obama then you cite how the owner curbed costs just to pinch a penny. Damn the business owner for keeping the company profitable and increasing the value to investors (his job btw).”

Businesses have been trying that hour-cutting trick pretty much since Federal regulations explicitly laid out the difference in how part-time and full-time employees could be treated. In fact, Microsoft got slammed with a lawsuit some years ago because they sought to keep “temporary” employees (to whom they weren’t required to provide benefits) on for *years,* effectively skirting Federal law on benefits and procedures required to be extended to permanent hires.

Quite frankly, the fact that Obama’s the President has nothing to do with Darden looking to pull a fast one on its employees, no matter how much that might fit your narrative. It’s just another instance in a long line of employers trying to find a way to adhere to the letter of the law without actually abiding by the spirit of it.

Pro tip: If your business seeks to screw or otherwise take advantage of employees in its quest to be prosperous, then don’t expect those employees to either like it or vote for candidates that you think will cut you some slack for having done so.

IOW: give employees a fair shake or don’t expect them to give you one. You get what you give.

q.v. That Siegel f**khead from yesterday’s blog post.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

“I do get a kick out of the responses the USMC though, the boy is a master chain puller…he don’t mess with me, though…he knows better…”–josef

You better believes I DON’T mess with jonix! ;-)

They BOTH suck

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

“the boy is a master chain puller”

Is that what they call them now?

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

Did Stevie get a time out?

Bud Wiser

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

It is impossible to count the number of lies from the Obama admin on the situation in Libya.

The State Department denied Tuesday it ever concluded that the deadly consulate attack Sept. 11 in Libya was an unplanned outburst prompted by an anti-Islam movie, despite public statements early on by some in the Obama administration suggesting that was the case.

Really?

And White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, as late as a week after the attack, said that based on initial information, “we saw no evidence to back up claims by others that this was a preplanned or premeditated attack.”

Carney then went on to suggest again the violence was related to the film: “Based on the information that we have now, it was — there was a reaction to the video — there was protests in Cairo, then followed by protests elsewhere, including Benghazi, and that was what led to the original unrest.”

There is not enough space here to catalog the lies from Obama and his slimeballs. There also has yet to come from these incompetent slobs any reaction or statement about what reprisals, or hunt for the killers of the ambassador and three other Americans.

They are just “a bump in the road” to the Obamanation in DC.

The bottom line as far as working for the uppity one should be “you’re on your own when you leave here”. You sure as hell won’t get protection from your own govt.

Their reaction? “Romney is a liar, nanny nanny boo boo….”

Little wonder that the polls are starting to reflect the change.

And the media stooges still carry their water, although now it has to smell a little rank, eh JB?

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

Honest question: I haven’t seen where the intel was that specific. Do you have a source?

Yes he does. His source is what’s found on the bottom of most people’s shoes when they step in cow pastures (i think its called bullsh####5%t ) — Briebart.com or that other one; Boortzie in the morning; or some such silliness.

Jack in cumming

October 10th, 2012
5:06 pm

The angel – I think u mean Ted Kennedy not romney

Billybob

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

Ahem

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

Jay wrote: “You see, spending cuts can have consequences. Sometimes serious consequences”, that stated with the obvious implication.

And then after the following was posted:“Again today under testimony the state department was specifically asked about spending cuts and they stated funding did not play into the decision. The decision was based off of the security assessment at the time.”

Jay wrote: “Good. I’m relieved to hear that.”, but stated without any retraction of the previous false implication.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

Is that what they call them now?

In polite company, yes.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

OK, Steve, your banishment was short-lived.

Seriously, folks, I can’t and don’t see everything. If I overlook a serious personal attack, email me at jbookman@ajc.com, and I’ll handle it in confidence.

Liberal Pariah

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

I stand corrected. Sorry about that.

TM

October 10th, 2012
5:07 pm

I forgot did the Bush administration ever try to get the public to believe 9-11 attack was because of a movie promo??? Maybe if this administration had been up front with the facts the focus of the hearings would be on what went wrong (intelligence failure ??)not who to blame. Now we have the State Department saying don’t blame us we never said it was the movie. I seem to recall the justice department making a big deal about questioning the producer of the movie. Maybe they should have gone to Libya before CNN and looked at the diary first

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:08 pm

Ahem — “The Darden restaurant group (Long Horn Steakhouse; Olive Garden; Red Lobster; etc.) along with Progressive Insurance, both have owners / officers that are big time Obama donors and supporters.”

I was aware of that, but I don’t patronize Darden Restaurants because their food sucks IMO. That said, my father loves Red Lobster and goes there a couple of times a week for lunch. The last time I was in his neck of the woods and saw him for lunch, that’s where we went — and the staff all knew him by name.

They BOTH suck

October 10th, 2012
5:08 pm

Steve

Welcome back

:-)

Billybob

October 10th, 2012
5:08 pm

jay he lied when he went to the UN weeks later and blamed everything on a video and then defended muhammed’s honor from attacks like that from the film that had nothing to do with anything that transpired in libya….easy

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
5:09 pm

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:04 pm

Pariah, I don’t know who “Jeff” is, but as far as I can tell Steve was the first and only to call someone an A-hole. If I’m wrong, please let me know.
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I think I may have been guilty of that before :oops: ………. But I wasn’t really “calling” anyone anything, I was just IDENTIFYING a condition. I’d do the same if’n I seen a hydrophoby dog in the neighborhood……..

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
5:09 pm

“Coverup.”

Leave Kyle Wingfield out of this, Abomb.

So do libs actually believe we are better now the four years ago in terms of foreign relations?

In terms of American body counts we sure are…

Support the Troops.

RF

October 10th, 2012
5:11 pm

Joe: I know of a small business owner who was struggling to make any profit of late who changed all his employees to contractors, so he 1099’s them and doesn’t have to do any taxes or offer any benefits. He did that WAY before the Affordable Care Act was a gleam in Obama’s eye. That’s an age-old business trick.

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
5:11 pm

So @Retardinski
Please DO give us the skinny on these same businesses and the states of their stock prices prior to Obama taking office? Were the stock prices crashing because these same owners were running sh—y businesses? What suddenly made them SO “smart”? What a waste…

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:12 pm

I said this once but it was rejected because I was in Sin City but I will say it again.

I apologize to Jay since this is his party and to any other posters I may have offended. I tried to visit and take the topic seriously but I was hit with a sniper shot.

Once again I am sincerely sorry to everyone.

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

Oh and see I thought that Stevie got a time out for saying he was banging Keeps’ wife. I mean calling Keep an A-hole is one thing saying you are on top or below someone’s wife is pretty fcking low. But it’s par for the course for Republicans who think it’s ok to pick on women and little girls.

Steve-USA “None of the Above”

October 10th, 2012
4:42 pm

Keep-

Was it the one with me above or below your wife?

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

Well, I can vouch for the Imam’s particular dislike for calling somebody that word, even when you just are returning the compliment… :-)

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

IOW: give employees a fair shake or don’t expect them to give you one. You get what you give.

Seen on that “other” blog:

Dear Employer: If you’re going to give me a “mythical” pay increase and then simultaneously raise my amount that I have to put into healthcare, (while you put in less); then expect a “mythical” job performance to coincide with said pay raise.

No sense keeping the fairy dust from sprinkling on all of us………….

Trickle Down Works!!! :roll:

They BOTH suck

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

Steve

All good here. I doubt there are too many regulars who haven’t said something that they wish they could take back.

No problem

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

but I was hit with a sniper shot.

Sounds to me like “it was Bush’s fault” :D

The angel Moroni

October 10th, 2012
5:14 pm

Now that we’ve gotten this little bit of hypocrisy from the GOP straightened out, let’s discuss the family-values GOP congressman who made his mistress get an abortion.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:15 pm

TheyBothSuck – “Steve Welcome back”

Thanks Both. You know sometimes I fall short of the glory. I am surprised it’s today because I have been in a great mood.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:16 pm

Once again I am sincerely sorry to everyone.

Apology accepted.

We ALL fall short in the eyes of the Blog God. It’s inevitable.

eddy

October 10th, 2012
5:17 pm

Always……the coverup is worse than telling the plain, unvarnished truth! “But, but…we didn’t know” So why not say this rather than something to try to minimize the event to protect the administration. Jay, you can dance all you want. As a matter of fact, Jay Carney needs an assistant but watch the testimony on CSpan from those who know the facts. Hard to get things so screwed up unless it was deliberate. Susan Rice is woefully ignorant or is a deliberate liar. Either one is not good. But she is the face of the lie and continued to say the untruths when everyone including Big Bird knew better. But the Democrat prism is so clouded and filled with nuances that the truth often is overlooked or lost. Only a few more days until this clown car is put into permanent storage never to be seen again.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:17 pm

RF — “Joe: I know of a small business owner who was struggling to make any profit of late who changed all his employees to contractors, so he 1099’s them and doesn’t have to do any taxes or offer any benefits. He did that WAY before the Affordable Care Act was a gleam in Obama’s eye. That’s an age-old business trick.”

Exactly; you’ve seen it, too.

I saw it in my consulting career, too. I had an open-ended engagement with one client; they needed a long-term support staffer because the *previous* consultant (the person I was replacing) had been on the job 18 months and that was apparently the cutoff applied in the Microsoft case I referred to earlier.

They actually tried to get me to come on board permanently (they would have saved a lot of money and I wouldn’t have had to fly back and forth each week), but I declined. One consultant did take them up on the offer and he relocated from Indianapolis.

Eventually, *I* had been there for 18 months and had to roll off the project, and guess who replaced me? The same woman *I* had replaced 18 months previously. :)

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:18 pm

Keep -”Sounds to me like “it was Bush’s fault”

Touche…that was pretty funny. :)

Fred – take your free shots because I am not going down that road.

pogo

October 10th, 2012
5:19 pm

Jay we all can regurgitate things that happened in the past to try and justify things that are happening now. And to do that is not to solve the problem as lies are lies no matter which side they come from. Obama said he would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term and where are we today? Your problem is if the lies come from the Liberal side then you are more than willing to run cover for them and I that pretty much makes you a liar. You have done plenty of this for Obama mainly by lying by omission. For every accusation that the Obama campaign makes against Romney you have been more than willing not to delve into the details of what the accusations are all about. There is no attack on women by the GOP and there is no gutting of Social Security by Romney. But there are several known guttings that are going to occur two of which are; medicare is going to be gutted bigtime by Obamacare and the working American taxpayer is going to be gutted by unending government spending on useless and ill managed/ill conceived programs. But you won’t touch those, will you? One day you will have to stand up to your grandchildren and say yes I supported that man and on that day how will you feel? I guess you can have the white-guilt excuse that “you supported a black man”. I think that is a lot of what you are all about as you question absolutely nothing Obama has done and yet you condemn the only man right now that just may give America hope. We all know there is no hope with Obama. Just more of the same old shallow leadership.

And when are you going to write something on the Obama administration giving the green-light to these “compounding pharmacies” that are practically devoid of FDA oversight because they can produce drugs cheaper and quicker than the established drug manufacturers? In its rush to try and make Obamacare look good, the Obama administration practically begged for these shadow drug producers to make cheap medications for distribution to the American public to lower health-care costs. And we are all seeing the result of that with this Fungal Meningitis outbreak aren’t we? Where is your piece on that Jay? The most appalling thing about this thing is, the Obama admininstration (and his supporters) worship big government and its control and regulation but it practically gave these drug factories free reign to produce vital medications without the same scrutiny that the big pharm companies have to comply with. So we have people dead because the Obama admininstration wanted to make drugs cheaper and neary a word is uttered by the main stream press nor by Jay. I hope you all have a lot of faith in Obamacare because this type of thing is about to become common place. It was built not with the best interest of the American people in mind and it was built not to save money. It was built to give a certain few massive amounts of power over the dumb masses. I guess they (the liberal politicians) get off on the control because they certainly don’t care about money as they are all rich. And of course, they won’t have to depend upon Obamacare for their healthcare. Pelosi and Reid exempted themselves from the act.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
5:20 pm

Only a few more days until this clown car is put into permanent storage never to be seen again.

Another prediction bookmarked.

Are you gonna be around after No.7?

Or are you just gonna hide behind the myriad of sock-puppets you already post under?

Fred ™

October 10th, 2012
5:20 pm

Fred – take your free shots because I am not going down that road.

You DID “go down that road.” I have no desire whatsoever to reply to anything you have to say anymore.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:21 pm

Steve – Next time you want to give an insult, make the person you’re insulting do it themselves. For instance:

Dear Blogger – In answer to you above statement I have only one comment –

You are a __________________ (Please Fill in blank with any of the below):

(a) Sh###t head
(b) Coward
(c) Coward with a sh###thead
(d) Ignorant
or
(e) ignorant ass sh###thead

Please choose one. Thank you.

alittlecommonsense

October 10th, 2012
5:22 pm

By any rational comparison, the breach of security nine years ago was far more destructive (True), and was carried out on American soil where the expectation of safety was much greater (Therefore security would be more lax – not stronger as you are implying). The intelligence failures involved were also far more profound (mostly under the Clinton administration). The Obama administration’s failure to immediately grasp and communicate what had happened in Benghazi (they lied to cover themselves politically), a site so dangerous that the FBI didn’t dare visit there until three weeks later (then why didn’t they have some security there?) , was certainly less important than Cheney’s utterly false claim that 9/11 was an Iraqi conspiracy (Yes, Obama’s lie was less “important” than Cheney’s releasing intelligence from the early stage of an investigation that later turned out to be incorrect.)

The nation’s nonpartisan, unified response at the time was proper and appropriate (Sure, google Bush Cheney 9/11 and look at all the non-partisan unified hits you get. Half of them say Bush authorized the attack. Real unified, huh?)

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:24 pm

Pogo – Perhaps you need to lay off the caffeine son.

Wilbur

October 10th, 2012
5:24 pm

THE AJC and the rest of the establishment media turned a blind eye to repeated lies by the President of the United States but now Jay finds the reaction “curious”. I find Jay’s column hypocritical.

Practically everyone in America knew Obama and Clinton were lying, desperately trying to keep from admitting that terrorists were behind the attack in Libya. The Media could not be bothered to even ask. Now we find out that there was no crowd, no response to a movie trailer, that the embassy was unguarded, and that the State departments knew Obama was lying one day after the event.

It seems Hilary decided not to go down with the the USS Obama by compounding her mistatements with lies under oath.

Randy Ayn

October 10th, 2012
5:25 pm

eddy – what would be the motive for misrepresenting who killed the embassy staff? It’s really a stupid premise, as a) everybody knew there would be dangerous situations on the anniversary of 9/11 and b) no president has ever been able to prevent every determined terrorist from doing harm to us. Do you really think it looks better if the act was committed in response to a video rather than a terrorist attack? Either way, our security (weakened, as Jay pointed out, by GOP budget cuts) screwed up. Are you old enough to remember 9/11/2001? Do you remember the news reporting that bombs had exploded in Washington, DC and other incorrect things in the first hours of the attacks? It takes awhile for facts to be learned – and sometimes, they never are.

Randy Ayn

October 10th, 2012
5:27 pm

averylittlecommonsense – you really think we have more control of security on foreign soil than we do in America? You don’t get out much, do you?

USMC

October 10th, 2012
5:27 pm

The Obama Administration is CLUELESS!

Susan Rice on ‘This Week’: U.S. Not ‘Impotent’ in Muslim World – September 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqqrr7Mn3g

UN Ambassador Rice: “Benghazi was the direct result of a video…”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
5:28 pm

Miss Understood… what, you left out “all of the above” ?

Fred: thanks for the concern. I just accept it for what it was.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:29 pm

Fred, STOP!

Steve’s apologized more than adequately and doesn’t deserve your hectoring. You’re out of line.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:29 pm

In fact, Fred, you’re out of here for a while. That’s unacceptable.

RF

October 10th, 2012
5:29 pm

“Practically everyone in America knew Obama and Clinton were lying”

Nah, just the Rush and Hannity Fan Clubs “knew” that, and they basically think everyone else is a gay, socialist, illegal alien, muslim anyway.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:29 pm

Susan Rice is woefully ignorant or is a deliberate liar. Either one is not good. But she is the face of the lie and continued to say the untruths when everyone including Big Bird knew better

Why do cons hate these people:

Eric Holder
Pres. Obama
Susan Rice

Could it be that they just vehemently disagree with everything the say, do, hear and eat? Could it be because deep down they think they’re the hottest thing since Marilyn Monroe naked with the radio on? Or could it be its because they are BLACK and have POWER?

I think the scariest thing in the world, is a black person with power!! The only thing scarier is a WOMAN with power! Hence their ultimate orgasmic like of Sarah Palin.

She was a female, yes, but she was so dumb that everyone knew her husband was the real power behind the governorship in Alaska.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
5:30 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:31 pm

alittlecommonsense — “By any rational comparison, the breach of security nine years ago was far more destructive (True), and was carried out on American soil where the expectation of safety was much greater (Therefore security would be more lax – not stronger as you are implying). The intelligence failures involved were also far more profound (mostly under the Clinton administration). The Obama administration’s failure to immediately grasp and communicate what had happened in Benghazi (they lied to cover themselves politically), a site so dangerous that the FBI didn’t dare visit there until three weeks later (then why didn’t they have some security there?) , was certainly less important than Cheney’s utterly false claim that 9/11 was an Iraqi conspiracy”

FWIW, we became aware of Operation Bojinka — the precursor plan to 9/11/2001 — in 1995. Many elements of Oplan Bojinka became part of 9/11.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bojinka

And before anyone starts in on me, no, I didn’t vote for Clinton. Either time.

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:32 pm

Ironically I had to Google “hectoring”. :)

nelson

October 10th, 2012
5:32 pm

I still sense a “shrill desperation” in trying to put the abysmal policy in the middle east on Mitt Romney. Put the responsiblity on the Commander in Chief President Obama. There are so many issues, including the poicy “soak it to the rich”, the heads of coporations do the hiring, if they lack funds as a result of higher taxes, they cut expenses by layoffs and shuttering plants.

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:32 pm

Miss Understood… what, you left out “all of the above” ?

You have to give them something to strife for……. :)

USMC

October 10th, 2012
5:33 pm

Rice: Libya attacks spontaneous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oOxAyU8QwM&feature=related

We are being led by complete BUFFOONS. Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton should be FIRED!
(Obama will get fired next month…)

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:34 pm

We want Fred! We want Fred!

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
5:34 pm

Michael

October 10th, 2012
5:36 pm

It has been reported that there are more members of military bands than there are foreign service officers. Let’s see who proposes to cut the military budget to reduce the number of bands in order to provide more money for the foreign service.

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:37 pm

Question…how is Obama’s Middle East policy abyssmal? I can’t see 10 cents worth of difference between his and every previous administration’s since theTreaty of Sèvres.

Randy Ayn

October 10th, 2012
5:38 pm

So, how’s Romney going to handle things? Invade Syria and Iran? Anybody want to take bets on whether his sons will be enlisting?

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:39 pm

Free Fred!

OK we’re gonna have to do this the same way that the Cons did in Afghanistan and Iraq.

First we’re going to have build up public support.

Then we’ll need a good P.R. man to make Fred look like he was abused and misunderstood.

Third we’ll need a picture of Fred, wearing his flag pin, standing next to the Statute Of Liberty and beneath his picture will be this headline, “Fred Is FOR Freedom!! Fred is FOR Women!! FREE FRED NOW!!!”

Okay — We’ve got all of that, now we’re going to need some rope, a gag, some handcuffs, and some underwear from Fredrich’s of Hollywood……..(For publicity purposes only)…..

Lastly we’ll need a picture of Fred, on an aircraft carrier, with a sign behind him that says, “Mission Accomplished!!”

We can do this — Fred is as good as freed…………..

USMC

October 10th, 2012
5:41 pm

Chris Wallace Grills Robert Gibbs Over Obama Admin.’s Insistence That Libya Attack Was Spontaneous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v83_PYXQAoI

Robert Gibbs does a great impression of Bill Clinton doing his:
“It depends on what the definition of “IS” is.”

Pizzaman

October 10th, 2012
5:41 pm

So the Republicans are holding hearings. I guess the ones in DC now are so secure in their position they don’t need to campaign.

I’d really like to say something but from the ludicrous, ridiculous and utterly unbelievable posted here I wouldn’t know where to start. So: Vote Early, Vote Often. Bypass Republican Voter ID, Vote Absentee!,

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
5:41 pm

OOoohhh @Miss Understood

You better keep that thing under wraps there girl in that 5:29pm

NOTHING will get panties in a wad and possibly get your posts blocked quicker than uncovering THAT “monster”. You know we here in these Divided States of America are ill-equipped to deal with such things, which in and of itself is quite “curious” if you ask me.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
5:42 pm

Steve, it means a metric unit of area defined as 10,000 square metres (100 m by 100 m), and primarily used in the measurement of land.

No, wait.

That’s a different word. (grin)

jonix, for nelson…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7noSTPukX8

Doggone/GA

October 10th, 2012
5:42 pm

Getting to this late, but couldn’t let this pass: “Actually Lee the lay attack was sept 11 this year as our embassy is American soil”

The facility in Benghazi was NOT an embassy, it was a consulate. Our embassy is in Tripoli. A consulate can, and often is, nothing more than a local office. It does not have the protection of an embassy.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
5:43 pm

So, how’s Romney going to handle things? Invade Syria and Iran?

If he is gonna use Bush’s foreign policy team, he will probably invade land locked Liechtenstein.

Krystal'sBalls

October 10th, 2012
5:43 pm

@Randy Ayn Yeah… betcha’ $10,000! LMAO

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:45 pm

Miss Understood

:-)

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:45 pm

USMC — “Robert Gibbs does a great impression of Bill Clinton doing his:
“It depends on what the definition of “IS” is.”

Gibbs hasn’t been part of the WH staff for some time now. Why would you rely on him to explain something that’s just recently happened in the WH?

Steve-USA "None of the Above"

October 10th, 2012
5:46 pm

Off to make dinner.

Sorry again Keep

,,,and Free Fred. It was my fault.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
5:46 pm

Free Fred!

OK we’re gonna have to do this the same way that the Cons did in Afghanistan and Iraq.

FRED EATS ONLY FREEDOM FRIES!

Joe Hussein Mama

October 10th, 2012
5:47 pm

I’m out; someone else feed USMC his Scooby Snacks while I’m gone, K? :D

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:48 pm

DOGGONE

@ 5:42

Beat me to it!

ZamVet

:-)

getalife

October 10th, 2012
5:49 pm

This issue made emotions run high.

“BRUSSELS (AP) — The United States has sent military troops to the Jordan-Syria border to bolster that country’s military capabilities in the event that violence escalates along its border with Syria, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Wednesday.”

Surprise.

USMC

October 10th, 2012
5:50 pm

“I’m out; someone else feed USMC his Scooby Snacks while I’m gone, K?”–Joe

Joe, you need a Stand Up career!
I’m serious. We’ll all come see you. :-)

GT

October 10th, 2012
5:50 pm

9/11 was an historic event in 2001, equal to any in the history of this country. No person, in New York, going to work that day, despite the attempted bombing of the World Trade Center a few years before, saw this coming. They felt the protection of this country from its enemies, the number one responsibility of the federal government that had for 100 years never allowed an invasion of this nature to occur protected them that day. The shock of this miscalculation will never be understated. And the retaliation has only deepened the victimization of this country; we will never have that moment taken back or a moment of closure. Activity after does not cleanse away the responsibility of this happening on the watch of Bush and Chaney, and in this half baked invasion of Iraq they only added to the tragedy. No attacks have occurred on American soil in the Obama administration, though the enemy has tried.

Our Benghazi consulate in Libya was the exact opposite situation. There was no bubble of security we have in our homeland, this country had just last year brutally assassinated its leader, drag him through the street as a trophy and was still an armed camp of small independent armies . The danger was well defined in the job description, and these are not drafted men working in our consultant, or unfortunate soldiers the Bush administration refuse to relive of duty after they had served several tours, or people who trusted their federal government to protect them from their enemies. Like policeman in the line of duty they understood the danger and sign on knowing it.

The Republicans have made a living causing disorganized drama and then blaming it on the other side, whether it is foreign forces of evil or domestic “socialism” plotting conspiracies that ironically they are the only ones who can fix. Four years after they left office we still feel they ability to govern yet nearly half the country has forgotten 9/11, which only says we will repeat it, so be warn.

Doggone/GA

October 10th, 2012
5:50 pm

“FRED EATS ONLY FREEDOM FRIES!”

Missed an alliterative opportunity! How about: FRED FEEDS ON FREEDOM FRIES!

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:51 pm

IMAM

“,,,and Free Fred. It was my fault”

Okay, what more do you want?

Jay

October 10th, 2012
5:51 pm

No Steve, it was Fred’s fault. He and I have been down this road before.

Sheets.

JamVet

October 10th, 2012
5:51 pm

Fred merely needs wear his full dress uniform and swear before the United States Congress that he has no recollection of any of the events in question.

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 10th, 2012
5:52 pm

How about: FRED FEEDS ON FREEDOM FRIES!

Much better, thanks.

josef

October 10th, 2012
5:53 pm

getalife

Yow! I didn’t see that one coming…!

Miss Understood

October 10th, 2012
5:53 pm

FREE Fred – Cause Fred Supports These Republican Causes:

Terry Schaivo’s parents pimping her out to a republican congress and the republican congress using her for their dastardly purposes.

Broad Stances

Pastors For Meth! (Who hate gays but are secretly sleeping with male gay prostitutes because they are trying to save their souls)

Using and Abusing Teenage Congressional Pages (For the sake of democracy)

The Hot women of Argentina! (While their wives are home with their five children baking cookies)

Legitimate Rape!!!! (That other stuff is for wuzzies)……

MANGLER

October 10th, 2012
5:53 pm

Sometimes I enjoy reading the latest post back up to the first post rather than in order. It’s much more entertaining and a challenge to figure out what the initial story is actually about.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 10th, 2012
5:58 pm

Steve, as I said, I can take it. In my profession, the other side often uses that “a” name. I do think that family, neighbors and non-adult children should be left out. I may not say it in the same manner as Fred but I do agree with the principles that he fights for.

Now I have to go get him a kilt so he can stand on a hilltop and yell “Freedom”….. I am sure that this just devastates Fred though…. it confirms his fears that he is an extreme conservative….cause only conversatives are banned by Jay. :lol:

Jay, in principle, Fred is correct that some things should be over the line. Offered in mitigation.

Tom Middleton

October 10th, 2012
6:00 pm

Well, we found out this morning from Mrs. Ann Romney that politics is a game to play and that “winning the game” is what it’s all about. And it seems to me, Jay, that she’s not only speaking for her husband when she says elitist stuff like this, but for the entire GOP.

Apparently nothing is off the table with them when it comes to winning an election, even the unfortunate unpredictable events in Libya, and anytime they can exploit anything for their own political benefit, well, you know, it’s just a game.

But I respectfully have news for Mrs. Romney, and I can’t believe I’m having to say this to even one so above us all:

1. It’s not a game to the most of us but as real as real can be.
2. The truth matters in a functional democracy, and being on all sides of every issue, as Mitt has been for as long as anyone can remember, does not qualify as the truth.
3. We’re not playing now or ever, This is serious!

William Anderson

October 10th, 2012
6:00 pm

Yeah, you’re right. You and the administration you want to keep in power absolutely “don’t get it”.

Tundra Dude

October 10th, 2012
6:02 pm

“I think regarding 911 our intelligence in ME was so devastated by Clinton

Sounds like another sipper from that Fountain of Knowledge, Faux Nuze.
If Clinton left an Intel void, it was filled quite adequately by German Intel
They’ve been quite adept at intercepting communications thruout the Mideast for years.
Leading up to 9/11, the messages became much more frequent and more detailed.
(supposedly) the Big Day was to be Sept 10 or 11.
All this info was reported to the proper US authorities.

I refuse to believe the former heads of Intel and Defense of my country are conspiracy wackos.
Both were surprised/puzzled to learn we had our guard down, holding a “drill” on Sept 11.
(trivia: the very same day of the London bombing, in July 2005, they also had their guard down, holding a drill)

BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)

October 10th, 2012
6:03 pm

Wow, I am so relieved that the Ambassador was not raped, but only murdered. That made it so much easier to take. I am sure we all feel better about the torture and murder and mutilation. If he had been raped, what video would the administration have blamed it on? Muslim porn?

Tundra Dude

October 10th, 2012
6:10 pm

No person, in New York, going to work that day, despite the attempted bombing of the World Trade Center a few years before, saw this coming.

Except subscribers of that Hebrew language messenger service….Idigo, were warned.

RF

October 10th, 2012
6:14 pm

“So the Republicans are holding hearings. I guess the ones in DC now are so secure in their position they don’t need to campaign.”

Nah, Rush just told them there was a conspiracy afoot, so the collective chose to hold hearings. A lot of hullabaloo that will, in the end, likely result in little more than a few good nights for Hannity and O-Reilly and end up with even less than Fast and Furious. But they gotta try right- it worked with Clinton, didn’t it?

Glass House Rocker

October 10th, 2012
6:25 pm

OK This was a planned assault by terrorists. Coincidentially, a movie comes out to just prior to Sept. 11 “critical” of Islam. Does such an attack take long term planning? Did the mob form on its own? Assuming that most of the mob was not Al Qaeda–was Al Qaeda quick enough to take advantage of the situation and hide its well armed members within the mob in order to get near enough to attack the Embassy?
According to reports the actors in the film said they were duped. The film is said to be obiviously dubed. Did Al Qadea know of the film and already have plans to inflame a mob to suit its purpose?

Donovan

October 10th, 2012
6:28 pm

Event One is pure conjecture and not documented by you as to CIA specific al Qaeda targets and VP Cheney’s assertion that attacks had been planned and coordinated by Saddam Hussein. The 911 Commission did not say that.

Event Two is ridiculous cover for what actually happened. “U.S. State Department may have overlooked intelligence warnings of a possible attack”? Years later after 911 and after all the experience we have collected since then on the capabilities of al Qaeda and the anniversary of 911 coming up?

State did receive actionable intel well before the attack in Benghazi and sat on the information. State was asked to provide more security, based on the intel, and denied the requests 3 times. This was pointed out by Lt. Col. Andrew Wood. State was asked to keep the 16 security operators at the consulate and was told to dismiss the group. This was pointed out by Lt. Col. Wood.

Since you don’t get it, I shall enlighten you and your merry bunch of left wing followers. This is what happens when a liberal bunch of people get together and try to run foreign affairs. When you are told that bad people are out there to harm you and they are in your neighborhood, but you want to display an olive branch so they will leave you alone, your naïveté gets people killed. This is what happened due to the orders from the White House and the State Department.

Since you claim that you “don’t get it” we have to endure the run for cover crap with your posting and the cover-up with Team Obama. Just listen to today’s hearings and the ridiculous explanations from those involved with the cover-up. State refutes the White House and that stooge, Jay Carney, still loves the video explanation. The news media is trying their damnedest to paint lipstick on the Obama pig. NBC’s surrogate, Anne Curry, tried to make Libya’s head of state say the Benghazi attack might have been instigated by the video in a very recent interview. She was summarily rejected in that idea by the interviewee.

We get it, Mr. Bookman.. George Bush got intel on something very vague and new about a possible threat way back in 2001. Obama and the State Dept. got intelligence information on a possible threat that was real and plausible, based on the experience we suffered from 9/11.

What’s different and what’s germaine here is that it is an election year. Team Obama knew the threat, didn’t want to rock the boat with foreign policy bad news, and their indifference got people killed. Now comes the cover-up and the ridiculous explanations from the White House, the State Dept., the liberal news media, Jay Bookman’s AJC Opinion Dept., and all that fall into the left wing following.

We get, Jay. The American people get, Jay. And most likely, Big Bird gets it.

Jay

October 10th, 2012
7:02 pm

TM, either your auto-correct function was programmed in Albania or …

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
7:03 pm

moonbat betty

October 10th, 2012
7:05 pm

Fredro for president!!

G Mare

October 10th, 2012
8:45 pm

Hey, watch it with the “old grey mare” thing! :)

JKL2

October 10th, 2012
9:56 pm

miss understood- Or could it be its because they are BLACK and have POWER?

“I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

It’s a shame you can’t get past the color of their skin.

Violins20

October 11th, 2012
2:20 am

lovelyliz

October 11th, 2012
10:33 am

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) acknowledged on Wednesday that House Republicans had consciously voted to reduce the funds allocated to the State Department for embassy security since winning the majority in 2010.

[...] Republicans Go After the Obama Administration over Benghazi AttackTIMENBCNews.com -Atlanta Journal Constitution (blog) -Washington Timesall 3,211 news [...]

kelly

October 11th, 2012
2:16 pm

Jay, the real tragedy here is that folks are relying on “sources” like Breitbart for their news.

Kimmer

October 11th, 2012
3:14 pm

From Jay: 2) The intelligence briefing that terrorists plan to strike somewhere in the US is just a wee less specific than terrorists plan to strike our ambassador in Libya.

Honest question: I haven’t seen where the intel was that specific. Do you have a source?

Yes, your blog above:

Event one “The attacks were successful despite CIA briefings delivered to President Bush in person more than a month earlier titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” In fact, as far back as May 2001,

Event two “There are also allegations that the U.S. State Department may have overlooked intelligence warnings of a possible attack and failed to upgrade security for Ambassador Chris Stevens, a man who was intimately familiar with Libya and knew the dangers inherent in leaving our fortified embassy in Tripoli.”

Any more questions?

Mitt Snillock

October 11th, 2012
8:47 pm

For those of you without the brain cells to understand what obama did, listen up. He lied about the video’s complicity in the attack and it being the result of a protest over said video. He continued to lie about it days afterward. Don’t give me any BS about faulty intelligence. There was no protest. The al-Qaida threat was very high and very real. Four Americans are dead.

Daivid

October 12th, 2012
1:13 pm

When 3,000 people died from a terroist attack in New York that Bush had been warned about, the people, including Democrats, rallied behind the President. When 4 Americans are killed in a terroist attack in Libya, Republicans attack the President. Republicans only care about politics and power.

Brian Fejer

October 13th, 2012
1:19 am

You read these comments, and can sense the steep decline of western civilization. Since the GOP announced last week that this US Embassy, I mean Consulate, I mean compound was actually a secret CIA black site gathering intelligence. I guess maybe Classification might have something to do with the Administrations response, but to party as devolved as the GOP they don’t understand stuff like that. The world to them is black and white, to the rest of us its a million shades of grey.

Chris Curley

October 14th, 2012
7:02 am

Forget the failed intelligence of 9-11-2001,the intelligence that lead to the war in Iraq,which was cooked,and the subsequent lies by the Bush administration have resulted in thousands of lives.ow 5they want to point fingers and call Obama a liar,because he wasn’t sure the attack was engineered by terrorists.T

Chris Curley

October 14th, 2012
7:08 am

Bush and Cheney lied and obfuscated in the leadup to the Iraq war.Forget the failure on 9-11,in the continental United States itself,and the history of the GOP mis;eading the American people from Wartergate to Iran-Contra,to the WMD’s in Iraq.This is a party of big business,with little regard for the American people.They use bigotry and fear to gain the support of the worst of us,and lie to gain the rest of their suppor outside of big business.Facts are facts and they all point to a party that wants power,and will stop and nothing to gain it.

Roger Bohlen

October 16th, 2012
6:23 pm

I see the Obama Administration using the Benghazi attack as an excuse to further their limits on free speech. They let their hand show at the UN, where they tried to make it unlawful to blasphemy religions or their prophets. By saying that the Benghazi attack was a response to a film gives them more clout to achieve their agenda.