UPDATE: 9:07:
From The Hill:
Mitt Romney has overtaken President Obama in a Public Policy Polling survey released on Tuesday.
Romney won 49 percent support from likely voters in the poll, compared to 47 percent for Obama.
It’s the first time all year Romney has led in the poll, which was conducted on behalf of liberal Daily Kos website and the Service Employees International Union. Obama led 49-45 percent in the group’s previous poll, conducted before last week’s debate.
The PPP poll, like the Pew poll cited below, was taken in the immediate aftermath of last week’s debate.
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Source: Pew Research Center
In a new nationwide Pew poll taken in the immediate wake of last week’s debate, Mitt Romney holds a four-point lead over Barack Obama. Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced. Yes, Obama did poorly in the debate, but there’s little to support the contention that a 12-point swing took place — Pew’s pre-debate numbers gave Obama an eight-point lead, a little on the high side — or that the debate completely erased Obama’s 18-point lead among women, as Pew reports.
There’s no question that Romney got a good bump out of the debate. The question is how large and whether it lasts. Gallup and Rasmussen provide evidence that it has begun to fade, perhaps because of the good jobs report, but time will tell.
And what inspired this apparent shift in Romney strategy and fortunes? In an interesting new story at Politico, the change is attributed to an intervention on Romney’s behalf by his eldest son, Tagg, and his wife, Ann, in which they demanded a more moderate approach.
“Even now, many Romney officials wonder whether the change can be sustained. In essence, Romney is trying to undergo a political metamorphosis — to shed an image of personal stiffness, and to emerge loose and willing to compromise. Romney, advisers concede, is at his worst when improvising — and this shift is the biggest improvisation of the campaign. Right now, Romney is described as going with the flow, trying to quickly grow into this new public persona, most notably with his decision to tell personal stories on the stump.
Campaign officials said any change will be confined by Romney’s own cautious nature. And they are candid that their electoral map still looks terrible: Romney is behind in nearly every vital state. Ohio still looks very tough to win and New Hampshire, once a possibility, looks very bleak, officials say.”
So we’ll see. Again, there’s no question the narrative arc of the campaign has been altered. As that great political strategist Yogi Berra once noted, it ain’t over ’til it’s over.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
October 9th, 2012
7:19 am
Yogi Berra was a very wise
man.
A Simple Man
October 9th, 2012
7:24 am
Yep. Long way to November. Lot can happen.
Rightwing Troll
October 9th, 2012
7:26 am
So he was lying to get hardcore wingnuts to vote for him before, or he’s lying now to try and get my vote… Will the real Mittens please stand up?
hiram
October 9th, 2012
7:27 am
Say it ain”t so, Joe – Say it ain’t so, Joe…
Mick
October 9th, 2012
7:27 am
One thing is for sure; romney’s positions are confusing, who is he really, the xtreme right candidate doubling down on the 47 percenters or the middle of the road guy with four weeks left? I don’t trust him with the presidency and his foreign policy advisors are suspicious, I’ll go with the devil I know…
Travis McGee
October 9th, 2012
7:29 am
“If stupidity got us into this mess, then why don’t it get us out.?” ~Will Rogers
Pizzaman
October 9th, 2012
7:30 am
For my Repub brethren: Vote Early, Vote Often, Damn the photo ID, Vote Absentee.
I don’t care who won the debate, this Vietnam Vet will never vote for a draft dodger. I’ve never been involved in a poll so they don’t matter!
USMC
October 9th, 2012
7:33 am
Three Interesting points:
Pew Poll shows an 18 point shift among WOMEN.
Romney leads among INDEPENDENTS 51-35
Enthusiasm gap- 13 pt. spread for Republicans
Democrats better get those Dead People and Illegal Aliens to the Polls.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
7:33 am
Another episode of Mitt’s off-camera Meanderings.
And speaking of personal stories, did I ever tell you about the time that this poor old man who had lost his job and his pension simply because he happened to have been employed for thirty something years at some steel mill that Bain may have shut down without my involvement… I just love telling those heartwarming personal stories while waiting on the Tarmac for clearance for my pilot to take off… Is anyone recording this… they really should, you know.
East Lake Ira
October 9th, 2012
7:35 am
Romney lies with the ease of a carreer criminal.
hiram
October 9th, 2012
7:36 am
Nate Silver, on Piers Morgan last night, said that Romney’s momentum will be short lived. The fickle undecided voters will do an about face at the drop of a hat, and there’s miles to go before they sleep…
USMC
October 9th, 2012
7:38 am
President Obama’s dismal Foreign Policy is rearing it’s ugly head with the disaster that occurred in Benghazi. There are 4 dead Americans including the Ambassador and the President is running around blaming it on some internet trailer.
And the cover up on the Administration’s part can’t be helping the president at the Polls.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
7:39 am
the WaPo has an interesting take on the underlying numbers
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/08/8-takeaways-from-the-new-pew-poll/
most interesting:
The Pew sample for this poll was 36 percent Republican, 31 percent Democratic and 30 percent independent. That’s a major shift from the organization’s September poll which was 29 percent Republican, 39 percent Democratic and 30 percent independent. In the 2010 election, the electorate was 36 percent Republican, 36 percent Democratic and 27 percent independent, according to exit polling. In 2008, 39 percent of the electorate identified as Democrats while 32 percent said they were Republicans and 29 percent said they were independents.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
7:39 am
It is fundamentally a question of whether you are satisfied with the job growth, economic growth, and deficits of the last four years.
Romney is a reasonable moderate with excellent executive and fiscal experience.
So are you ok with the last four years? Some will say yes. I think America can do better and I say no.
Elect Romney.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:41 am
Romney trending up, Obama down. Big viewers for debate, and Obama looked like who he IS, A lost good speech giver community organizer. The American people are starting to focus on this election and that is not helping Obama. He’s an over his head ideologue and not a leader. We have serious problems. The last 30 days of this administrations handling of this killing of our ambassador and there weak attempt to cover up the shorting comings of proper security is coming home to roost. It’s still close, but I like Romneys chances more every day.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
7:42 am
Good morning all y’all, sorry I’m late , had a bad scare this morning but all is OK now…enjoy
http://cheezburger.com/6652949504
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:42 am
Boy, I need to proof read LOL
USMC
October 9th, 2012
7:43 am
Gas prices hit new record high at $4.67 a gallon…
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-gas-prices-california-record-20121008,0,4435726.story
Obama has raised gas prices to record highs to help his rich oil buddies make record profits….
hiram
October 9th, 2012
7:44 am
USMC 7:38
Benghazi is so last week before last, before last…Surely Rush isn’t still pounding his desk over that.
The next thing you know he will be back on the birther theme. When td shows up, we can get an update on Rush’s message of the day.
southpaw
October 9th, 2012
7:45 am
The polls must be skewed. Nah, nobody would skew a poll…
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
7:46 am
Too bad Republicans are not any better off than they were four years ago. That’s a real shame. Probably due to the poor quality of those Chinese-made bootstraps.
USMale
October 9th, 2012
7:46 am
USMC, if you want to be able to afford gas, you need to get a job and earn some money. Don’t whine about corporations using the law of supply and demand to make their investors money. They’re people and they deserve the money as much or more than you do. You socialists are all alike.
CHEVY runs deep...
October 9th, 2012
7:46 am
GM now hiring — 10,000 information technology workers
General Motors plans to hire up to 10,000 computer professionals in the next three-to-five years as it tries to lead the auto industry with cutting-edge technology.
The nation’s biggest automaker is moving past layoffs and the Motor City’s rusty, low-tech image in a bold and expensive move to develop software and invent the most advanced gizmos for your car, rather than buy software and other electronic applications from outside companies. Experts say it’s also the start of a trend as manufacturers realize that software is among the few things that will set them apart from competitors.
http://bottomline.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/08/14299378-gm-now-hiring-10000-information-technology-workers?lite&ocid=msnhp
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
7:47 am
Ha! Check this out. A must play before November…
http://cheezburger.com/42977537
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:48 am
hiram………….Better get that head out of sand and look around. Even CBS throwing Obama under the bus last night over this middle East failure.The Chicago thuggery is ozzing out all over this guy and the failed policies are getting a unfiltered spot light on them.
jconservative
October 9th, 2012
7:48 am
Romney has moved to the center politically as we all knew he would do.
As I have stated previously the next president will be a centrist as have the last 8 presidents.
In the last 10 days Romney has moved to the center on taxes, Iran, Syria and Israel and his statements on those issues in the last 10 days are virtually quotes from Obama speeches.
The former liberal governor of Massachusetts has come home to roost.
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:49 am
And THESE polls don’t even factor in the “home field Advantage” Obama always gets…..and it ain’t looking good
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
7:49 am
Poll are just a bunch of statistics…you know what Mark Twain said…” there are three kinds of lies. lies, damn lies, and statistics.”
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
7:50 am
“Romney is a reasonable moderate with excellent executive and fiscal experience.”
…. depending on who he’s talking to …
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
7:51 am
I bought more shares of COP earlier this year. I know Republicans just cannot resist driving their big SUV’s.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
7:51 am
Rightwing Troll@7:26 – Since you like to refer to Romney as Mittens, perhaps we can refer to Obama as Hussein? You give Gov Romney respect and we will give Pres Obama the same!
USMC
October 9th, 2012
7:52 am
Democrats are getting desperate as the tide turns in Romney’s favor:
Watch for the DemocRats to pull VOTER FRAUD out of their bag of tricks and try to steal the election.
The new word of the day for the DemocRat Political operatives is “LIAR”. They will repeat this word until all ballots are counted.
OBAMA HAS NO PLAN! And is growing more and more obvious to voters every day.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
7:52 am
Liberal, don’t go counting your win just yet. The are two more debates and President Obama learns from his mistakes. He will take two of the three and win in November. No sweat, my conservative friend…and when he does win, look at it this way, you will have four more years to bit*h about it! A win-win, surely….
Jm
October 9th, 2012
7:52 am
“Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced”
Poll skeptic. At least for now.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
7:52 am
“perhaps we can refer to Obama as Hussein”
dude. where have you BEEN for the past 4 years???
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
7:53 am
Mitt has never met a hidden camera that he could not be honest with.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
7:53 am
Jay makes fun of people for having doubts about polls.
Then he has doubts about polls.
Comical
Thomas
October 9th, 2012
7:54 am
Benghazi is so last week before last, before last…Surely Rush isn’t still pounding his desk over that.
You are correct Hiram as Christopher Stevens has risen from the dead- everything has now been righted. Crazy comment.
Anyway- good article as Romney should stay center and fade the extremist to the right- something the Pres should have done over the last 4 years.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
7:54 am
“Romney family intervention altered campaign, polls”
JAY BOOKMAN continues to wage a war on families!
We note your bluster, JAY.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
7:55 am
Usinuk
Sterling business experience – bil clinton
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:55 am
Me thinks the next two debates will make Obama look worse, although the next one is a town hall format…and Obama will be ask what cookies he likes while Romney is ask about Iran. You can count on that.
Goldie
October 9th, 2012
7:56 am
Just shows how so many American voters will be impressed by the candidate who was most entertaining during the debates — it didn’t matter too much that Mitt was lying and back-tracking on all his positions… it only mattered that they were “entertained” by watching him sling mud at Our President.
We have 4 more weeks for Romney/Ryan to open their big un-cool mouths and step in it once again!
jconservative
October 9th, 2012
7:57 am
“…deficits of the last four years.”
Deficits all approved by the Congress of the United States. So much for the Tea Party making a difference. The Tea party turned out to be the same old bunch under a different name.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
7:57 am
The family intervention certainly explains a lot, it’s a fun story to believe, anyway.
perhaps we can refer to Obama as Hussein?
Shrug. It’s his middle name. It didn’t seem to bother ~70 million voters last time around.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
7:58 am
USMC@7:33 – Good post my man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pizzaman – So you prefer a former Community Organizer over a former Gov & CEO over the Olypmics?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
7:58 am
There is NO way the unemployment number could be manipulated, but, Pew could certainly skew polling data! Maybe some of those 67 million who tuned in last week saw the current administration for what it is…the amatuer hour (or hour and a half in this case). And, then their response, “Romney is a liar…!!!” Or maybe we have witnessed the administrations continued lies regarding Libya. Let the name calling begin…
I'm a liberal and believe everything I read and nothing the other side comes up with...cause we're smart and they are not
October 9th, 2012
7:58 am
The polls are ONLY important on this blog when they favor the President. It’s comical to read and watch that……..And it’s going to be close……Wonder why? You would think independents and moderate Conservatives would want 4 more years it’s going so well….
Lord Help Us
October 9th, 2012
7:59 am
Mitt – no tax cuts for the wealth, will keep the ‘good’ parts of Obamacare, will keep the ‘good’ parts of Dodd-Frank, will not substantively alter foreign policy.
Next up, Mitt supports the ‘good’ parts of Obama’s immigration reform policy…
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
7:59 am
and Obama will be ask what cookies he likes while Romney is ask about Iran.
Hmm. You don’t really think that either candidate is poised to answer the questions they’ve been asked, are you? The whole point of these “debates” is to scrupulously avoid the interrogator and address the target market instead.
Goldie
October 9th, 2012
7:59 am
I hope Big Bird stomps the Cons in November!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:01 am
“Sterling business experience – bil clinton”
umm. okay. what are you talking about?
hiram
October 9th, 2012
8:01 am
@ I’ll believe anything…
I bet you voted for Shady Deal, didn’t you? And, you are pointing your finger at Chicago’s corrupt politiicians? Granted, Georgia’s corrupt politicians are less sophisticated – two bit con men, for the most part, or delusional religous zealots. Between Shady,Sonny, Shameless, Skywalker, and “flat-earther” Broun, guys like you have far surpassed Chicago – Georgia’s politicians are the laughing stock of the country.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:01 am
For Liberals, it’s ‘Blame the media!’ time…
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/09/25/for-conservatives-its-blame-the-media-time/
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:02 am
umm. okay. what are you talking about?
you try typin ona i pad it iz hrd
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:03 am
DNC strategists cannot like what they’re seeing…
TiredOfIt
October 9th, 2012
8:05 am
President Obama’s dismal Foreign Policy is rearing it’s ugly head with the disaster that occurred in Benghazi. There are 4 dead Americans including the Ambassador and the President is running around blaming it on some internet trailer.
+++
I guess you must have really loved GW’s foreign policy. Did you complain then?
Lord Help Us
October 9th, 2012
8:05 am
What about the JOB creators!?!? Class WARFARE!?!?
No tax cuts for the JOB creators? Mitt is a class warfare socialist…
gm
October 9th, 2012
8:05 am
President Obama will win the next two debates, what a bunch of ungrateful Americans, President Obama should have never killed bin ladin, never saved auto, never secured this country from the brink of hell.
President Obama should have never stop ending the war in Iraq, and drawing down troops in Afghanistan, President Obama should have never helped our troops who have came home, President Obama why should you have cared? now that the country is off the cliff, the ungrateful Americans rather elect a guy who will send poor, middle class whites to die in more wars while his sons take vacations, President Obama these tea party, right wing jobs were not worthy of your concern.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:07 am
Usinuk
That was a real Billy C quote
Google is your friend
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:07 am
Romney election not likely to ease DNC intransigence…
kayaker 71
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
“Romney is behind in every vital state”. Obviously, this clown has not been paying attention.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
Meanwhile, Republicans continue to turn on their own Tea Party candidates. They’re apparently too radical with their desires to cut government until in is small enough to drown in the tub. Cannibals eating cannibals.
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
Obama/Biden 2012
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
Sfd
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
I guess you must have really loved GW’s foreign policy. Did you complain then?
Last time I checked, he’s been out of office for almost 4 years and is not running for anything at this time. Two wrongs make a right, huh?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
Jm – 8:07 – yeah, well, that’s nice and all, but why are you directing that at me?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:10 am
“you try typin ona i pad it iz hrd”
“sausage fingers” is one thing … but I’m struggling to figure out why he’s flinging Clinton quotes at me
Dixie Chicks
October 9th, 2012
8:11 am
I guess you must have really loved GW’s foreign policy. Did you complain then?
_____
How could we forget it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pojL_35QlSI
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:11 am
The are two more debates and President Obama learns from his mistakes. He will take two of the three
I don’t think that he has to do that. He simply has to do demonstrably better than he did last time, and I think it’s reasonable to imagine that he will. Obviously if he continues to look as off-his-game as he did last week, it’s going to continue to hurt him.
Did everyone somehow forget about 2004, how dreadful Bush looked in not just the first but really all three debates? Have we forgotten “want some wood?” and “I hear there’s rumors on the, uh, Internets?”
GWB’s approvals were bouncing around 50 as well (if you look at the historical chart you’ll see Obama’s actually bounced above GWB at this point in his term).
And for those who keep going “Obama’s the second coming of Jimmeh Carter” you might want to have a look at where that poor soul’s approvals were around this time, compared to Obama’s.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
8:11 am
“Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced. ”
Jay, are you in need of medication? For the past few months you believed that Obama was in the lead because of the polls. Now that the polls are shifting, you suddenly don’t believe them.
Something tells me that Jay is just living in complete denial.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:11 am
Republican foreign policy:
Terrorists from Saudi Arabia but none from Iraq attack the US and the Republicans retaliate by giving the wealthiest US residents tax cuts in order to insure that they pay less for their war against Iraq.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:12 am
So he was lying to get hardcore wingnuts to vote for him before, or he’s lying now to try and get my vote… Will the real Mittens please stand up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
Barack Hussein Obama talks tall, walks small.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
Gas prices hit new record high at $4.67 a gallon…
So, why direct the animosity and hatred towards the free market? It’s all about supply vs demand.
indigo
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
“Romney is described as going with the flow”
Romney has been “going with the flow”,flip-flopping this way and that way ever since this campaign started. His first debate with Obama can be described as a polished performance, filed with style and totally devoid of substance. If this really changed the poll figures, the American people are shallow beyond belief.
If Romney is elected, his followers will certainly get what they deserve. Unfortunately, the rest of us will get what we certainly don’t deserve, four more years of George W. Bush’s disasterous policies.
Dixie Chicks
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:12 am
_______
“Best” post of the morning!!
John Coctosen
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
Loving the panic in you Dem’s posts. “Romney lied..” You sound like my 2nd grade daughter. Bunch of whiney pathetic losers. Me, and most Repubs knew Obama was an empty suit from day one. The rest of the country is finally figuring it out and your response is “Romney lied”?? What is next? The plethora of your celebritards claiming they will leave the US when Romney wins? Please, Jay, do us a favor and go with them.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:14 am
Usinuk
Your short term memory needs a serious upgrade
USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
7:50 am
“Romney is a reasonable moderate with excellent executive and fiscal experience.”
…. depending on who he’s talking to …
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USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:15 am
“So, why direct the animosity and hatred towards the free market? It’s all about supply vs demand.”
and the futures market setting prices
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:15 am
Mitt’s foreign policy team: Bill Kristol, John Bolton, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney. Nothing at all like the Bush team.
Bob Loblaw
October 9th, 2012
8:15 am
It just can’t sustain itself, can it, Jay? You’re column today has an assumptive strain throughout that just “knows” that this surge in Romney’s numbers JUST HAS to be temporary. Doesn’t it?
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:15 am
just veering off topic for a moment–I’ve got a couple of Droid-y things for internets access, and they absolutely suck livestock exit-ports when it comes to typing anything longer than a few words. I have no idea why anyone would use such things as a significant verbiage-input device.
(but then I don’t especially like most laptop keyboards either. I think the cheapest PoC USB-connected keyboard you can pick up at the returned-merch bin at your local computer store is an improvement over anything I’ve ever used.)
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:15 am
“Your short term memory needs a serious upgrade”
and what in the name of barbecue flavored pork rinds does that have to do Bill Clinton?
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
8:16 am
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:12 am
Bro’,
my 0747…like minds, you and me…scary, ain’t it?
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
8:17 am
Jay- Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced
ROFL! Lies, damn lies, and statistics. I guess polls mean everything until they don’t support your position.
Please go back to telling me how bad Romney’s position is while complaining that he he hasn’t given you any details…
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:17 am
John Coctosen,
Joe Wilson left you a voice mail.
Verbal Kint
October 9th, 2012
8:18 am
Obama’s Foreign policy team: Alfred E. Neuman.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:18 am
Normal
Only scary that you’d think anything like me…
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:19 am
As long as these polling outfits don’t oversample because we all know how touchy the Republicans get about oversampling.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:19 am
Romney’s business and executive experience is so good, Bill Clinton called it “sterling”
Well, I guess democrats now disagree
Democrats have become extremist
Paul
October 9th, 2012
8:19 am
Good to know he’s got a couple of good advisors.
But he still has to overcome the ‘is this the real Mitt, or not?” question.
What will work in his favor is if it really is true most people don’t really start paying attention until the debates. If that’s the case, his prior statements will be much more likely written off with a yawn and an attitude of ‘that’s politics… what do you expect?”
So now, Team Obama, how do you run against a moderate?
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
8:19 am
@Jay Bookman
Since you are an avid supporter of Obama can you at least give us all some details into Obama’s plans for a second term?
1: Will he cut spending and help reduce the deficit?
2: What are his plans for getting the economy going?
3: What are his plans for the Middle East now that his current policy failed?
I’m confused as to how he always talks about abortion, contraceptives and other things that no one cares about.
Can you at least give me some reasons to vote for the guy?
Thanks
Joseph
October 9th, 2012
8:21 am
You can sugarcoat it all you want Jay nut it was an epic beating. Obama looked juvenile and for the first time he debated someone who knew how to engage. Think about it. He’s never had a formidable foe. McCain is a war hero. Not a debater. Hillary is about as smart as a stop sign. Obama showed that he’s not smart enough to think fast on his feet. Spewing talking points won’t get it. That’s all he’s got. It’s laughable that foaming at the mouth lib’s think Obama will do better the next debate. I’ve got news for you. That’s the best he’s got……
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
8:22 am
-Gas prices hit new record high at $4.67 a gallon
We really need to do something about Bush and his greedy big oil buddies driving the prices thru the roof.
oops…
Why hasn’t obama got rid of that law saying only Republicans can buy stock in oil companies yet?
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:23 am
But he still has to overcome the ‘is this the real Mitt, or not?” question.
Given the advances in technology, it is much harder to escape the things said 6 months ago.
Transcript of video posted @ 8:12
Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: I will not reduce the taxes paid by high income Americans.
Mitt Romney, 2/22/12: There were so many misrepresentations in there it’s going to take me a little while. Number one, I said today that we’re going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by twenty percent—including the top one percent.
………………………
Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: The key to great schools? Great teachers. So I reject the idea that I don’t believe in great teachers or more teachers.
Mitt Romney, 6/8/12: He says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government.
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Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: Actually, it’s a lengthy description, but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan.
Mitt Romney, 3/27/12: If they’re 45 years old and they show up and they say I want insurance because I’ve got heart disease, it’s like: “Hey guys, we can’t play the game like that.” You’ve got to get insurance when you’re well, and then if you get ill, then you’re going to be covered.
It will be much harder to lose that former self as it has been in previous elections. Technology is a b*itch at times.
skipper
October 9th, 2012
8:23 am
Jay.
You like all libs are happy when YOUR polls show Obama in the lead. Let Romney get ahead, however, and certainly the poll that reports THAT must be skewed! Obama appeared as if he took it for granted, and got torn up. Romney offered a real look at things, like it or not. I am not making a call on who will win……..but man do BOTH SIDES like to warp the data to their favor!
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:23 am
More bad news for the Obama re-election effort…
Bombshell: Obama.com Owned by Bundler in Shanghai with Business Ties to Chinese Government
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/08/Obama-com-Owned-by-Bundler-in-China-with-Business-Ties-to-Chinese-Government
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:23 am
Vote for a better more vibrant America
Elect Romney
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:24 am
Gas: $1.88 When Obama Was Elected
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/08/Chicago-Area-Gas-Station-Remember-Gas-Was-1-88-When-Obama-Was-Elected
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:25 am
But he still has to overcome the ‘is this the real Mitt, or not?” question.
There’s no way to know without more hidden camera footage.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:25 am
-Gas prices hit new record high at $4.67 a gallon
We really need to do something about Bush and his greedy big oil buddies driving the prices thru the roof.
Bush ain’t in office anymore. Did you not get the memo???
So, are you advocating for government takeover of the oil and gas industry? If not, why are you angry about the free market doing what it is supposed to do?
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:26 am
Snoop Dogg Posts Reasons to Vote Obama: ‘Michelle Got a Fat A**’
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2012/10/06/Snoop-Dogg-Shares-Reason-to-Vote-Obama-Michelle-Got-a-Fat-A
Yeah… That’s a good enough reason to vote for Comrade Obama… too funny
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:27 am
Bill Clinton calls Romney’s resume “sterling”
The host of the DNC held a fundraiser for Romney
It makes you think the Democratic leadership is really in favor of Romney
Don
October 9th, 2012
8:27 am
When you strip away the rhetoric, there really isn’t much different between the positions of Romney and Obama. Both are fairly moderate. (If you want to know which Romney is “real”, consider the politics of his father). Obama is no Bernie Sanders and Romney is no Rand Paul, for example.
The big difference is one of them is inept politically and as an administrator and the other has quite bit of experience in both areas.
hiram
October 9th, 2012
8:27 am
@taxpayer
The Tea Party is a short lived aberration that was mobilized by Karl Rove, via Rush, Faux, et. al. It’s made up of the congregations of backwater churches, and monster truck driving, small time contractors, who never participated in the election process, before W. They are energized by sensationalism, which is generated by the robber barons’ blood money, and there’s a growing divide between the monster truckers, strutting, snake handling preachers and the robber barons, because the Tea Party’s lack of sophistication is beginning to cost them elections.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:28 am
Bombshell: Obama.com Owned by Bundler in Shanghai with Business Ties to Chinese Government
Bombshell: Republicans running candidate with business ties to China.
Whoop de freakin’ doo!!!!
Guess y’all should not have been cheering on Citizen’s United huh? No way of tracking where that money really comes from. Conservatives had a chance to work on campaign finance reform, but they decided that it was ok for money = speech in the US.
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
8:28 am
Mitt Romney’s 5 boys just, “say NO to the U.S. Armed Forces”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpeNucNY4oE
Rick in Grayson
October 9th, 2012
8:29 am
The US is really going to move to Romney when the details come out about the Obama administration’s coverup of the terrorist attack on the Benghazi consulate.
Then the US electorate will KNOW who the real liar is!
Just like the coverup behind the invocation of “executive privilege” in the Fast and Furious affair.
I can’t wait till the debate that will cover foreign policy! Benghazi and Obama’s weak attempt to deter Iran from developing a nuclear weapon over the last 4 years.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:29 am
DemocRat’s resort to Racist attacks on Black woman voting for Romney…
Twitter Explodes After Black Actress Endorses Romney as the ‘Only Choice for Your Future’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/twitter-explodes-after-black-actress-endorses-romney-as-the-only-choice-for-your-future/
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:29 am
I think Biden will get the better of Ryan in the VP debate
It will matter, but not as much as the prez debates
Adam
October 9th, 2012
8:29 am
Hang on… I thought polls didn’t matter and were all skewed?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:30 am
“The host of the DNC held a fundraiser for Romney”
???
that doesn’t even make any sense. THE HOST of the DNC?? and who exactly is that?
Citizen of the World
October 9th, 2012
8:30 am
Maybe Romney can tell the story about how he liked to play hide and seek as a child and it’s a game he has never outgrown, except now he plays it with his tax returns and money.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:30 am
USMC
I hope you’re paid by the post for spamming this blog with that crap. If not, you’ve missed your calling.
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:29 am
Gomer, do you know who she is?
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
More bad news for the Obama campaign…
Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election Away?
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html
GT
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
What license does a candidate have to suddenly become his opponent to win an election? The right literally does not care what Romney says, they are like the beauty queen who marries the rich old guy. Romney is a means to their end; prostitution is a side issue at this point.
The one thing I know is the Obama I vote for is the Obama I get. I am shocked at his lack of debating skills the other night, but I am not shocked at what he said, it was true to himself. Seems to me a man’s mental health would depend on his consistence of thought and position. The shock of what Romney was saying the other night was the smoothness of his lies. Richard Nixon comes to mind. There are still people today who defend Nixon. I for one don’t.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
By the way, anyone willing to take my bet NOW? You’ll clean up, since after one single debate Romney has shown the election is a lock for him. Oh, and unskewed polls.com always knew it.
Come on…. you can’t lose! $100 on Romney to my $100 on Obama. Who’s in?
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
So now, Team Obama, how do you run against a moderate?
That’s a good question, and I was thinking about formulating a lengthy, unsolicited-advice-to-Team Obama kind of response, but really, the only thing you have to do is dust off the playbook you’d socked away for running against a Jon Huntsman-headed ticket (I’m sure they ran that scenario).
You know–point out the fiscal policy differences, play up the social/civil rights issues where the GOP is on the losing side, etc.
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
8:32 am
Jay, is USMC considered a “Spammer”?
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
8:32 am
shut up- 1: Will he cut spending and help reduce the deficit?
Depends on if you believe the Democrat philosophy that a tax increase is a spending cut or not? (understanding whether the tax increase actually increases revenue or not is irrelevant)
Tall
October 9th, 2012
8:32 am
Our country is facing a multitude of serious domestic and foreign policy problems. The POTUS or the the CEO of the country shows up completely unprepared and unable to articulate any of his strategies and is crushed by his challenger.
Doesn’t this bother anyone? What am I missing?
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:33 am
USinner
killerj
October 9th, 2012
8:34 am
Weeee Dogieeeeee,listen to them Dems squeal,betcha my poll is bigger than your poll,people make it sound like a joke this country is being driven into the ground.Go Tea Party.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:34 am
the Obama I vote for is the Obama I get
yeah. I don’t care how many times I have to point that out to the concern trollers who come in here and say “yeah what about GITMO and why aren’t we out of Afghanistan and why hasn’t he fixed everything about America that sucks, huh?” – I voted for a center-left, corporatist Democrat, a guy who was arguably the most conservative of the three viable primary candidates running at around Super Tuesday in 2008, and I recognize he needs work, and that we can do better in 2016, but for now, he’s who we have.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
8:34 am
I’m amused at how the left thinks Huntsman would be a great choice for the GOP. The guy was boring, slow and gave bad speeches. He also left the GOP a few months ago because he was upset that no one paid attention to him. Poor guy. Maybe can become like Charlie Crist. Whatever happened to that guy?
Thomas Heyward Jr.
October 9th, 2012
8:35 am
What part does the EPA mandating different gas mixtures play in the “Free market”?
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The dumbing down of Americas is on schedule.
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Forward Soviet!
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:36 am
NewYork Times: “Do as I say… not as I do…” Typical Liberal nonsense.
NYT Union Chief: Times Is Hypocritical about Unions
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329754/nyt-union-chief-itimesi-hypocritical-about-unions-charles-c-w-cooke
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
8:37 am
JKL2
Those questions were directed at Jay Bookman. I know that Obama will do nothing to curb debt or help the economy. The guy has no real world experience and so he’d keep on driving us over the fiscal cliff. My point is that Jay Bookman can not give a solid case for why Obama should have a 2nd term. It’s all “Romney this and Romney that.”
If you can’t defend the guy you voted for then you know your candidate is in big trouble.
Mick
October 9th, 2012
8:38 am
It’s gonna be deja vu all over again; after the first debate with kerry, W looked and acted like the doofus he was. I remember talking with some cuban american friends who were also mocking bush. I then asked who they were going to vote for and they said bush, of course. Why? They didn’t want to switch horses midstream, much to my chagrin. I think something similar will happen with obama. I don’t really expect him to change too much for the next debate but the people who support him and the independents will most likely stay with him – especially if you are working right now, plus romney is not trustworthy…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
8:38 am
The dumbing down of Americas is on schedule
Heyward, more drone attacks on Wisconsin weddings? Are you trying to be Exhibit A?
jd
October 9th, 2012
8:38 am
Rasmussen, Gallup and others are now showing Obama back in lead. The bounce has faded.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:39 am
” I missed that until you highlighted that statement. ”
I feel like I need a decoder ring for Jm today … even more obtuse than usual …
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
8:39 am
I’ve come to see the light and I’m thinking that we should in fact re-elect Obama.
The other day I was watching abc news and it showed Obama coming down the steps of Air Force one.Good God almighty- That man just seemed to glide down the steps he was so smooth. I have yet to see a president look as good as Obama does maneuvering the steps of Air Force 1. How did he do it so effortlessly almost as if he was walking on water- sorta like Jesus ya know? And it made me think- How can a man who traverses airplane steps so fluidly and who gives fantastical teleprompter speeches not be deserving of another 4 years?
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
8:40 am
Brosephus- Bush ain’t in office anymore. Did you not get the memo???
It was a joke. I know the president is only responsible for gas prices if they have an (R) after their name.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:40 am
Usinuk
Host of the DNC convention doofus
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:42 am
I know the president is only responsible for gas prices if they have an (R) after their name.
Hopefully, that was a joke too…
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
8:45 am
That man just seemed to glide down the steps he was so smooth. I have yet to see a president look as good as Obama does maneuvering the steps of Air Force 1. How did he do it so effortlessly almost as if he was walking on water- sorta like Jesus ya know?
Thulsa, come over here. Sit down.
Let’s understand something, one white guy to another.
We walk funny. It’s just how God made us, my man. Nothing we can do about it.
Thomas Heyward Jr.
October 9th, 2012
8:46 am
Herein lies………..7000+ pages of regulations for selling/buying gasoline in …………….California……alone.
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/fuels/gasolinefuels/rfg/regulations.htm
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Free Market?
.
lol
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
8:46 am
Not long after, presumed Obama supporters began insulting Dash for her opinion, saying she isn’t “black” enough, several even asking if the actress would just “kill herself.”
One man wrote: “This hurts but you a Romney lover and you slutting yourself to the white man only proves why no black man married u @REALStaceyDash.”
USMC,
Well we’ll just see if that “not black enough” woman ever gets another job in Hollywood won’t we. She is going to be censored by the Hollywood kook left and her career is now officially 0-V-E-R.
Darwin
October 9th, 2012
8:47 am
If people are swayed by someone saying in a debate that pigs fly, we deserve what we get.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
8:47 am
stands for decibels,
I got walk envy.
hiram
October 9th, 2012
8:48 am
My money’s on Nate Silver. He’s a nerd’s nerd, and he’s proven that he knows what he is talking about. End of story.
October 9, 2012, 12:54 am – Nate Silver
“The swing state polls published on Monday might best be described as being OK for Mr. Obama. He led in polls of Colorado, Iowa, Pennsylvania and Virginia, and in two polls of Michigan. In all cases, Mr. Obama’s lead was small. However, this particular group of pollsters had shown reasonably unfavorable numbers for Mr. Obama in the same states before. Three of the polls actually moved toward Mr. Obama from the numbers that the same polling firms had published before the debates.”
Obama 82.5
Romney 17.5
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/oct-8-a-great-poll-for-romney-in-perspective/
Jm
October 9th, 2012
8:48 am
Obama is only good with the assistance of a teleprompter
Absent that, you see the real Obama
A dimwit struggling to get his synapses working after years of drug abuse
Obama really is Bush 2. He just makes better use of teleprompters
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:48 am
dB
http://www.hulu.com/watch/10356
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:49 am
“I’ve come to see the light and I’m thinking that we should in fact re-elect Obama.”–Thulsa Doom
The sad reality is that if Obama is re-elected, productive people like you and me, who don’t live on government handouts, will be just fine because we will work harder and smarter to earn a good income IN-SPITE of Obama’s reckless policies. However, the losers that spend their lives on blogs pontificating on failed Socialist theories will keep sliding down the poverty scale into obscurity. sad.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 9th, 2012
8:49 am
Taxpayer – “I bought more shares of COP earlier this year. I know Republicans just cannot resist driving their big SUV’s.”
Yeah only Republican’s drive SUV’s, don’t forget to add that only Republican’s work at corporations while you’re at it.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
8:49 am
“Host of the DNC convention doofus”
Charlotte, North Carolina hosted a fund raiser for Romney … and … ???
you’re surprised that the capitol of the banking industry held a fund-raiser for Romney??? I’ll spare you the suspense … water is wet! the sun will set in the west tonight!
Mark in mid-town
October 9th, 2012
8:49 am
Jay Bookman writes: ” Yes, Obama did poorly in the debate, but there’s little to support the contention that a 12-point swing took place”
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I agree. A 12 point swing did not take place. The original baseline Pew poll massivley oversampled Democrats. The latest Pew poll looks to slightly be oversampling Republicans. So I think the swing is more likely in the 5 or 6 point range. That said, none of the polls pick up the extent of the so-called Bradley Effect which my instincts tell me could be worth up to 2 points net to Romney. Also, I think the polls tend to underestimate Republican support by another point or 2 as Republicans are often suspicious of the media and don’t answer the pollsters. A while back, I said the election was trending towards a Romney victory of 3 – 5 points. Jay basically laughed it off, but I still think that’s the case. The corrupt liberal msm will not be able to save Obama.
Uneducated, uninformed, vote against my best interest, Howdy Doody
October 9th, 2012
8:50 am
Pew Poll! Thats so funy. I just love funy werds. My mane man Mitch Romley is takin it too the howse. Go Mitch Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 9th, 2012
8:50 am
USMC – “However, the losers that spend their lives on blogs pontificating on failed Socialist theories will keep sliding down the poverty scale into obscurity. sad.”
Plenty of green grass that needs to be cut.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
8:51 am
“Herein lies………..7000+ pages of regulations for selling/buying gasoline in …………….California……alone.”
But if we just add another measley 5,000 pages we should start seeing an immediate drop in the record gas prices in California. Plus we should convene a national blue ribbon committee on gas pricing fairness. Keep the man from sticking it to us.
RW-(the original)
October 9th, 2012
8:51 am
Have we forgotten “want some wood?”
That was actually a witty and quick on his feet retort to an out of left field charge from Kerry that Bush secretly owned a lumber yard. Obama had some pretty good comebacks to…after his speech writers fed them to him the next day.
Although I agree with stands for decibels completely on the droidy stuff and laptop keyboards. We put a man on the moon nearly half a century ago and we really can’t make a keyboard that doesn’t ttyyppee liikke thiiss?
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
8:51 am
“Jumpin’ Joe Biden will win the debate as long as he keeps his mouth shut”……. Confucius say
indigo
October 9th, 2012
8:54 am
How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam? Did he, like Cheney, have “other priorities”?
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:54 am
If Republicans want to be able to buy de-regulated peanut butter to feed themselves and their families (at least warn your family members though so they can make an informed decision), then they should have the right to do just that. Give the Republicans the de-regulation that they so yearn for but let me keep the regulations for me and my family.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
8:54 am
“Obama is only good with the assistance of a teleprompter”
Jm,
Bullspit. As I pointed out at 8:39 the man can glide down steps like nobody’s bidness. That’s gotta count for something.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:55 am
The DNC has a real problem with telling Lies…
How Many Times Has DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Lied About Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/05/How-Many-Times-Has-Debbie-Wasserman-Schultz-Lied-About-Israeli-Ambassador-Michael-Oren
Paul Ryan Abruptly Ends Interview After 'Strange' Question (VIDEO)
October 9th, 2012
8:56 am
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/08/paul-ryan-interview-abruptly-ends_n_1949721.html
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
8:56 am
Jay you are way off base……. it’s not just what Romney said – it’s what Obama said. Voters have no confidence in Obama’s “plan to create jobs, reduce the deficit and restore the economy”. Like I told you – this election is about the ECONOMY.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:56 am
How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam?
Mitt had to serve in France. He was there to save the French from the perils of wine consumption. After all, there’s nothing worse than a drunk French soldier being sent off to war with a loaded gun.
Ben
October 9th, 2012
8:57 am
Who is Obama? The guy that campaigned and debated in 2008, or the guy who has been President since? In all the talk about how Romney has moved, y’all like to ignore the position changer in the White House, the one who actually has power now. Go back and listen to the 2008 debates, you’ll be shocked at all the stuff Obama said that he hasn’t acted on since, as well as things he said he wouldn’t do that he has done since.
hiram
October 9th, 2012
8:57 am
Thulsa Doom = td
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
8:57 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2012/07/12/telling-friend-from-foe-and-foe-from-annoyance/?cp=2#comment-1010548
Credibility = 0
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:57 am
DemocRats are growing more and more concerned about the Radical Leadership in the Party…
DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz Demolished by… CNN’s Wolf Blitzer?
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/14/DNC-Chair-Wasserman-Schultz-Demolished-by-CNN-s-Wolf-Blitzer
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:59 am
Obama’s lack of experience and failed policies have altered campaign, polls…
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:00 am
I have confidence in the jobs that have been created during the Obama administration. Those jobs are not dependant upon a housing bubble like the Bush-era jobs (which are now gone) were.
Tom Middleton
October 9th, 2012
9:00 am
This is no time to throw caution to the wind, Jay. I mean, Mitt Romney is one of those super-slick sales people so slick that if he were selling you and your wife a new car, you’re wife would be pulling you aside and whispering, “If you don’t get it in writing, we ain’t buying.”
Come to think of it, I bet that’s what I did wrong in my marriage, for I didn’t and she ended up hating both me and that Edsel. LMSAO
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
9:01 am
Obama bombed at the debate; no denying that whatsoever! He is also paying the price in the short term, and deservedly so.
But seriously, what is SO STRIKING AND BAFFLING to me is the fact that Romney is right before ALL of our eyes beginning to thumb his nose at those who most fervently supported him up to this point especially on the far right. They might as well have ear muffs and shades on though, because suddenly… NONE of that is important to them any more. They will spin, pretend and defend to no end. They only want to see Obama out of the office! Their so-called “principles”suddenly don’t matter. Very telling.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:01 am
“Give the Republicans the de-regulation that they so yearn for but let me keep the regulations for me and my family.”
Because the food safety regulations on the books already worked so splendidly to begin with.
What we really need is an army of peanut inspectors to inspect every peanut under a microscope to make sure its really safe before it goes into the Peter Pan.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:01 am
I’m better off than I was four years ago. Republicans obviously are not. They should have voted for Obama.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:03 am
Jumpin’ Joe Biden, a life long politician, will soon be in the private sector aka “The Real World”. Don’t worry he will still be feeding at the public trough with his health care and pension paid for by the gub’ment. Then there is always a standing offer to be on the cast of “Saturday Night Live” since he is such a natural JOKE.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:03 am
hiram,
I did score many a tds in my pee wee days as a fullback. If I didn’t beat you with a spin move or a juke and jive move well then I just plum ran smack over your ass.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
9:04 am
we’ll see. Again, there’s no question the narrative arc of the campaign has been altered
–
Jonathan Chait:
If you want to understand why Mitt Romney’s current polling bounce is probably not a fundamental reshaping of the race, read Nate Silver and Nate Cohn, but I’ll summarize it for you. Polls have very low response rates. Sometimes short-term events that dominate the news cycle excite partisans and make them more likely to answer pollsters — it happened when Romney picked Paul Ryan — but they don’t reflect a deep remaking of the public opinion landscape, which remains fairly settled.
On the other hand, a continued series of events like last week’s debate really might change the narrative of the race. And here is the bad news for Democrats: Their best shot has already come and gone. The debates will anchor the campaign narrative from here on out, and the three debates that follow all offer less favorable terrain for them to press their case.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/10/first-debate-was-obamas-best-chance.html
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USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:05 am
The DNC leadership’s Implosion could not have come at a worse time…
Benched: DNC Chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Missing-In-Action in Democrats’ PR Blitz
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/05/DWS-is-MIA
When you have to hide your CHAIRWOMAN for the entire DemocRat Party… you might have problems. I am sure Oba(mao) does not appreciate this kind of negative attention.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:07 am
USMC
October 9th, 2012
8:26 am
Snoop Dogg Posts Reasons to Vote Obama: ‘Michelle Got a Fat A**’
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dude, I know that YOU are old but does all your “news” have to be? that story is so last week. Expand your horizons. Try some different sites that aren’t a week behind. Do you get Tuesday’s paper on a Sunday or something?
Here, try this. I’m going to link you to yahoo. Scroll through all 50 stories. The Snoop dog (he’s changing to Snoop Lion by the way lol) was on there like last Thursday………… Once you have scrolled the stories then look at some of the categories. you will be (apparently) a week ahead of Breibart…… I’m doing my best to make you a high tech Redneck, don’t let me down.
http://www.yahoo.com
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:07 am
“How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam? Did he, like Cheney, have “other priorities”?”
I think he was hanging out with BILL CLINTON at the time…
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
9:07 am
USMC,
When are you going to post Obama stuff from other sites other than those right wing ones? Your posts would be more meaningful that way…
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:08 am
usmc,
I have a hard time deciding who is funnier between Debbie Schultz and her incredulous detachment from reality or Joe Biden and his dumba$$ gaffes. Its a tough call. Maybe we should do a poll on this.
Jay
October 9th, 2012
9:08 am
See update above.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 9th, 2012
9:08 am
Congrats on Romneys bump, too bad he’s going to get “Gored” with the Electoral vote.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:08 am
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:03 am
hiram,
I did score many a tds in my pee wee days as a fullback. If I didn’t beat you with a spin move or a juke and jive move well then I just plum ran smack over your ass.
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I’da popped you so hard it would take your jockstrap a week to find your balls.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:09 am
“Dude, I know that YOU are old but does all your “news” have to be? that story is so last week.”–Fred
Sorry Fred, but RUSH LIMBAUGH just told us this news yesterday. So blame Rush!
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:10 am
Normal,
CNN and Wolf Blitzer are a right wing site? The site USMC posted may have been right wing but it doesn’t change what happened between Schultz and Blitzer. Shooting the messenger doesn’t change the message.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:10 am
Because the food safety regulations on the books already worked so splendidly to begin with.
Like I said, Republicans should have the freedom to buy de-regulated peanut butter if they want. I’m all for giving Republicans the freedoms they yearn for.
nelson
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
Do I sense a little desperation in the rhetoric that Mitt is too stiff. A little stiffness in the backbone is a positive attribute, particularly in foreign relations. No one can call a policy of appeasement as beign effective. The Israelies shot down a drone, now that is decisive. The President has been putting “daylight” between himself and Israel, meaning he does not want to get to close. That is no way to act towards a friend and ally.
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
go navy- Mitt Romney’s 5 boys just, “say NO to the U.S. Armed Forces”.
What’s the over/under on the obama girl’s Naval future?
bwahahahahahahaha
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:13 am
Well if you can consider being on gub’ment disability being an Obama “created” job and being on food stamps being “better off than you were 4 years ago”…… then you are better off – temporarily. Sorry to tell you but the next BUBBLE to burst is going to be the gub’ment “checks in the Mail” bubble. I’m not saying you won’t get your gub’ment check but I am saying that it will soon be denied at the bank for “insufficient” funds – since the gub’ment is $16,000,000,000,000 + in the hole and $6,000,000,000,000 + has come in the 4 short years under the Obama regime. That’s a whole lot of tax money for a so called gub’ment created job. Now we have a gub’ment created debt.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:13 am
Sorry Fred, but RUSH LIMBAUGH just told us this news yesterday. So blame Rush!
If you paid him money he would send you his newsletter and you’d be up to date on the latest garbage to spam us with………
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
9:13 am
Thulsa,
I will admit I missed the Blitzer/Schultz thing…would you provide a link, please
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:13 am
Fred,
You down for some backyard football Doomy style big boy? I will hit you like a freight train. You’ll land somewhere in next month and wake up to find Romney as the new potus.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:15 am
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
go navy- Mitt Romney’s 5 boys just, “say NO to the U.S. Armed Forces”.
What’s the over/under on the obama girl’s Naval future?
bwahahahahahahaha
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And here we have ANOTHER BIG MAN who feels the need to pick on not only a 14 year old little girl, but this time an 11 year old little girl as well. What a studly man.
How proud and strong you are to pick on little girls, 14 and 11. Woo hoo, look at the big man. What a stud.
JD
October 9th, 2012
9:15 am
The focus will now be on Obama. HE has a record now. Basically, failure across the board.
Fiscal policy, immigration policy, foreign policy. Obumble is a train wreck. Remember, his line
“you did not build that…” that is not even HIS thoughts/reasoning. The marxist extremist
Elizabeth Warren (who is running for Senate in Taxachusetts) stated the exact same words
last year (Sept, 2011)! Obama is a parrot. However, Barry is dangerous because he advances
the agenda of the leadership/elites of the democratic party. A party which has been hijacked
by left wing global extremists (think Soros/western European elites, liberal bastions like Harvard).
There was a time when these people were on the fringe and marginalized. Not anymore.
A basic choice faces the American people: the values and principles this great country was founded on
or more and more state/government control. This election comes down to two paths: the US Constitution, individual freedom and liberty or the corrosive hand of the state collective. Socialism. Where individuals are grouped, pigeonholed, divided and subordinated to the collective will of the state.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:16 am
LOl Thulsa, did you just tell me at 9:13 that you would knock me into fantasy land? Why I think you did………
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
9:16 am
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
what are you saying? The American people can sacrifice “their sons” but Mitt can’t? If Obama had 5 boys and NONE had ever served including him, do yo think that he would be ready to start another war? Go figure.
indigo
October 9th, 2012
9:16 am
USMC – 9:07
I guess my memory is going bad on me. I could have SWORN Bill Clinton wasn’t mentioned in my post.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:16 am
“If you paid him money he would send you his newsletter and you’d be up to date on the latest garbage to spam us with………”
Oh I do Fred. I am a proud member of the “Rush Limbaugh Army club”… not to be confused with the “KISS Army Club.” I have my membership card, Rush Limbaugh poster, and everything.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:17 am
Normal,
Its in that breitbart link that USMC posted at 8:57. Its comical but disturing at the same time. The woman knows she is telling a bald faced lie and Blitzer is trying to tell her its a bald faced lie and yet she is stubbornly sticking to her guns in telling a bald faced lie that she knows to be a lie. I think Politifact or one of them so called fact checkers which coincidentally are all by products of liberal newspapers called the Medicare lie the biggest whopper of the year.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
9:17 am
Sorry Fred, but RUSH LIMBAUGH just told us this news yesterday. So blame Rush!
Getting your “news” from Rush…. there’s your failure to get a clue.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
“I guess my memory is going bad on me. I could have SWORN Bill Clinton wasn’t mentioned in my post.”
People, wake up and use that grey matter between your ears…
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Republicans select their presidential candidate based on the eloquence with which he presents his lies. Mitt quickly recognized that his hidden camera lies lacked that eloquence. He let his guard down because he failed to account for the real possibility that someone could be secretly recording him. Mitt Gekko Romney compensated and adjusted his many faces quickly before his next public appearance–a feat in and of itself, no doubt.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Will Obama’s daughters join the ROTC?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever join the military?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever go to public schools?
No.
So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
JD – “A basic choice faces the American people”
Agreed, they must decide whether they want to be ruled by the extreme asshats on the Left or the extreme asshats on the right.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:19 am
BTW, Hillary Clinton will never be president of the USA. No way, no how. The only reason she even has a job is because the Dems owed her for saving Bill Clinton in the 90s.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
9:19 am
Thulsa,
On your “football” comment to Fred…I will agree that Romney will probably win the white male vote…minus me, of course, but that will be all. America is not all while you know. The “minorities” will win this one for the President. That’s a good thing. In fact, if I had my way, there would be a law that you had to marry outside your race. Eventually, we would all be the same color and this race BS would finally be over. But the minority vote is why the GOP is so disparately trying to suppress their votes…they know.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:20 am
Fred,
Naw man. I just told you I would knock your ass out of liberal chocolately unicorn shytting skittles fantasy land back into reality.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 9th, 2012
9:20 am
Thulsa – ” I think Politifact or one of them so called fact checkers which coincidentally are all by products of liberal newspapers called the Medicare lie the biggest whopper of the year.”
Trying to scare old people is at the top of the Democratic playbook. The one titled “By all means necessary”.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
Guess I missed it but what is Obama’s military background? Thought so. Let’s not beat that dead horse again….. hypocrites for Obama.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
“So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.”
You mean… “Obama wages WAR on military and public schools!”
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
When the Daily Beast says Obama is real trouble you know libs are panicked.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:22 am
Why do you big strong, studly Republican men feel that you have to pick on little 11 and 14 year old girls? What the hell is your problem? It’s bad enough you human pieces of dung have to attack the Presidents wife but his little girls?
What a bunch of sad pathetic little men you are. And those of you Republicans who listen to this crap and don’t speak up are just as bad. i can’t ever imagine wanting to be a part of a party that has to pick on women and little preteen and barely teen girls.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
9:23 am
Romney’s lead, if he has one, will fade or go negative
Because the Obama campaign is so good at lying and tearing people down
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:23 am
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Will Obama’s daughters join the ROTC?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever join the military?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever go to public schools?
No.
So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.
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And here is another big man who has to pick on little girls to make his oh so important little attempted “point.”
Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
Normal,
Anyway we look at it its a close race. I do believe that if Obama wins Ohio that Romney is toast. The irony of it all is that the 3 states that Romney needs- Ohio, VA, and Fla. I think are all doing better overall due to Republican governors. I will try and find it but I saw in the news about a month ago that of the 23 states that changed governorships last time around (15 went R 8 went D) that the states that went R have since seen their unemployment drop by by almost 50% more than the states that went D. Kinda interesting. It was a news clip on CNN or Cpan I think.
only in the USMC's mind...
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
So in other words, Mitts “Royalty” is different than Prince Charles?
Prince Harry returns to Afghanistan
(CBS/AP) LONDON – Prince Harry is back in Afghanistan. The British royal – third in line for the throne behind his father Prince Charles and brother Prince William – arrived in Afghanistan Friday for his second stint on the front lines.
According to the British media, Harry will spend his four-month deployment aboard an Apache attack helicopter, one of which he inspected upon his arrival Britain’s Camp Bastion, in the Helmand province.
The British reporter tasked with covering Harry’s arrival for the U.K. media said he looked “relaxed, if slightly tired,” after his journey on a standard military flight from England.
Harry was to undergo about 10 days of acclimatization before being sent out on combat missions as a co-pilot gunner.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57508080/prince-harry-returns-to-afghanistan/
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
“Romney’s lead, if he has one, will fade or go negative”
Maybe, maybe not but it is fun to watch the left implode. I’ll always remember Chris Matthews yell at Ed Schultz and that race baiter.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
Why do you big strong, studly Republican men feel that you have to pick on little 11 and 14 year old girls? What the hell is your problem? It’s bad enough you human pieces of dung have to attack the Presidents wife but his little girls?
Did you really expect better from that antiqued white male party.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
“Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.”
Sorry pal, I don’t play your game. I call em like I see em. If Romney’s sons are fair game then so are Obamas daughters. You don’t get to pick and choose.
weetamoe
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
That old Pew guy, Andy Kohut or something, has been around for years. He was on PBS last night with some fairly convincing figures–and Pew has been consistently center-left leaning. But I still think Mitt is not ruthless enough to beat the pro.
The Pulitzer prize winner Ramirez is a lot more creative than Luckovich. I saw the empty high chair cartoon in some other publications. Happy it finally made it to the AJC.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
“You mean… “Obama wages WAR on military and public schools!””
wow.
the drama llamas have it cranked up to 11 today.
NA
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
You’ve got to be very careful if you don’t know where you are going because you might not get there. ( Yogi Bera also)
The problem is we know where we are going with Obama———— Down!
Need a chance to get well. Romney’s that chance.
You can not spend your way out of this mess, but if we re elect Obama he will keep trying until there is nothing left.
Jay loves polls that say what he wants them to say. One poll comes out that is not showing what he wants and the poll is automatically discounted.. Jay should be on the Obama staff and he can help guide Obama down the path to ruination as if he needs any help
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Krystal’sBalls:
But seriously, what is SO STRIKING AND BAFFLING to me is the fact that Romney is right before ALL of our eyes beginning to thumb his nose at those who most fervently supported him up to this point especially on the far right
You missed the whole “etch-a-sketch” moment. What everyone misunderstood about it was that it wasn’t so much that MItt Romney was going to change his tune overnight, the point was that he cynically knew that if he timed things just right, if he allowed the morale of the right wing base to sink low enough, and then waited to stage his rally at just the right time, that he would be given a blank check by the right to morph any way he likes in order to upend the race and win. THIS the right wing “base” is on board with, since now they have been given an opportunity to play a part in the drama.
The right wing base is a sucker for any chance to stick its thumb in the eyes of the librul mainstream establishment.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
I’m out for awhile.
Fred, buckle your chin strap. I’m sending an Alabama linebacker to jack you up. I would do it myself but I’m feeling charitable today. It would be less painful to you if I just sent one of King Saban’s boys. I’m nice like that ya know.
Respect Saban! Do it now Fred!
And btw ya’ll dawg fans take it easy on Mark Richt. He’s a good man. And quit egging Aaron Murray’s house. It aint all on him either.
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
I would say the over/under favors the Obama girls for serving in the military before a Romney boy would. I guess the clowns haven’t noticed that Malia is actually quite the athlete, and a bit (no a LOT) of a tomboy. She is very much in the mold of a Lalah Ali, and would shine at any U.S. Military Academy. Then again, I guess you have to have an “eye” for such things.
Laugh on JKL2
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
Obama will be prepared next time to debate Mitt the primary and Romney of the general elections, Thank You Obama for keeping America safe for 4 years, no attacks on American soil.
The right wing would like to go back to Bush policies of another 911, thank God all our troops are not like USMC Gomber on this blog who is angery because he had to take orders from a black Commander and Chief and supported the last administration who more lives were lost under any administration.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
“What a bunch of sad pathetic little men you are. And those of you Republicans who listen to this crap and don’t speak up are just as bad. i can’t ever imagine wanting to be a part of a party that has to pick on women and little preteen and barely teen girls.”–Fred
What kind of Marinade did you inject in those New York strips last night, Fred???
TiredOfIt
October 9th, 2012
9:29 am
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
I guess you must have really loved GW’s foreign policy. Did you complain then?
Last time I checked, he’s been out of office for almost 4 years and is not running for anything at this time. Two wrongs make a right, huh?
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I should have stated it as Republican policies Not to mention the number of Willard’s advisers are from guess where?
“Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It”
NA
October 9th, 2012
9:30 am
Taxpayer if all republicans choose their candidate based on the eloquence of their lies, They would all be voting for Obama.
weetamoe
October 9th, 2012
9:32 am
Those comments are not *picking on Obama’s little girls* and you know it. If you are looking for examples of what you accuse others of, check remarks made by David Letterman, Andrew Sullivan, Dave Weigel, Ezra Klein, Matt Iglesias—for a start—
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:33 am
I don’t believe in polls. They are too easily manipulated by the wording of the question. very few, if any, are free of bias anymore in my opinion.
It is also my opinion that this race here is WAY too close to call. (Which means it will probably be a total blow out one way or the other lol). I am looking forward to watching the returns on election night after I turn in the returns for my precinct. I have no doubt that in my precinct, Romney wins, I am in a strongly Republican area of Dekalb. While I’ve seen a ton of Romney/Ryan signs in yards, I have yet to see an Obama sign. Just a little under a month to go. Wow may time pass quickly.
joe
October 9th, 2012
9:33 am
“good jobs report”
POPPYC0CK! That garbage includes one day poll workers (temp job) where the “employees” will be paid for two days of work…one training class in Oct and the day of the election in Nov. With the economy the way it is, NO WAY those jobs are “real.”
Face it, Obama is toast!!
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
9:34 am
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
USMC, your recent obsession with this woman is kind of disturbing.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:35 am
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
“Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.”
Sorry pal, I don’t play your game. I call em like I see em. If Romney’s sons are fair game then so are Obamas daughters. You don’t get to pick and choose.
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Right, grown men ARE like little girls aren’t they. Is that what you tell yourself when you are beating up little girls instead of picking on grown men you studly man?
Actually you are a sad pathetic excuse for a man. There is no way you would talk about my little girl like that in person. There’s no way you would talk like that about ANY man’s little girl in person so don’t even pretend you would. You are sick. Seek help.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
joe – “Face it, Obama is toast!!”
Just keep telling yourself that. http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
the point was that he cynically knew that if he timed things just right, if he allowed the morale of the right wing base to sink low enough, and then waited to stage his rally at just the right time, that he would be given a blank check by the right to morph any way he likes in order to upend the race and win
So Mitt is conceding the right extreme/tea party positions will fail to get him elected. He abandons them to move to the middle and they either believe they can force him back after the election (if he wins), they just don’t believe in their own principals, or they just hate the current President so much, that anybody but Obama is the ONLY option (at whatever cost)
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
Thulsa/Fred,
Don’t make me bring in Terry Tate on you ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jplpjCaec
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:37 am
Class warfare, gender warfare, victim warfare, age warfare, etc., etc. etc………. Obama’s and Nanny Pelosi’s efforts to “bait and switch” is losing it’s effect – this election is about THE ECONOMY, CREATING JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND REDUCING THIS ALARMING FED DEBT. When it comes down to crunch time voters will filter through the B.S. and realize that without a healthy economy these gub’ment socialist programs like Obama Care are just a leftist’s wet dream.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
9:37 am
Another liberal myth being slayed….. but they’ll still live in fantasy land.
” Jonathan Haidt, a professor of ethical leadership at New York University’s Stern School of Business (and an Obama supporter), points out that liberals are more apt to hold inaccurate stereotypes about conservatives’ values than vice versa. “
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:38 am
I don’t need marinade USMC to know right from wrong. I don’t need marinade to know how pathetic it is to pick on a 14 year old and an 11 year old little girl.
is that news to you? Do you stand idly by while grown men abuse little girls? You are now here……..
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
9:38 am
“Thank You Obama for keeping America safe for 4 years, no attacks on American soil.”
What about Ft. Hood?
Oh yeah, that was workplace violence.
Bwaahahahahahahaha
Mary Elizabeth
October 9th, 2012
9:39 am
“Right now, Romney is described as going with the flow, trying to quickly grow into this new public persona, most notably with his decision to tell personal stories on the stump.”
================================================
Style vs. Substance. Many people, I suppose because they are young or at least younger than my generation, do not understand why the1960s “social revolution” was as fervent and intense as it was.
Many young people thought that too many of their elders were living out preordained, expected “images” of what they should be, instead of living out who they authentically were. That falseness resulted in unhappiness personally, and within families. The young people of the 60s questioned the values of the society in terms of perceptions related to race, sexual roles, unquestioning patriotism related to war and the killings in war. (”Look Who’s Coming to Dinner,” “The Graduate,” “Coming Home” with Jane Fonda, regarding the Vietnam War) The country became divided as witnessed in the horror of the Kent State University killings by policemen of college students who were protesting those superficial values, as they saw it, within American society. The country became divided on the Civil Rights Movement where little black school girls were murdered in Alabama. The nation has remains divided today. Evolution of consciousness takes time.
In Romney, I see a man trying to live out an acceptable image without a core of depth, and in Obama I see a man who is living out who he is authentically is. Moreover, it is the policies of Romney that are important, not his style or whether he appears “stiff” of not. His policies reflect the mindset of the 1950s – an America that values “strength” through toughness in its foreign policy, where there is a definite class demarcation among people based on wealth and status, where men and women have defined roles, and where kindness comes from what one “shows” rather than who one “is.”
Obama’s policies not only lifted this nation economically from the pits of a near Depresssion, but they reflect the America that has confirmed that the social revolution of the 1960s has made America better and stronger in reality, not just in image. Obama’s values and policies also reflect belief that America has emerged the better for having been transformed by the 1960s into a nation that values authenticity, racial equality, sexual equality, leading the world through its moral authority – as George Washington had modeled for posterity – rather than through intimidation. Obama knows that real strength does not come through the projection of surface images, but of the authenticity of that internal strength that can say to his subordinates “Find Osama bin Laden bring him to justice” as his #1 foreign policy goal.
Image vs. authenticity. Style vs. Substance. Lies v. Truth.
I support Obama for many reasons and among those reasons are the ones I just described.
straitroad
October 9th, 2012
9:40 am
Typical Bookman, when there is a real story to report on such as the embassy terror attack cover up, Jay makes another excuse for his candidate and references the Politico. You guys can’t ever admit fault in anything. It’s always someone elses fault.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
9:41 am
Wow…the libbies sure are cranking up the hostility since Obama got his huge ears pinned back in the debate.
Hysterical watching the libs trying to paint romney as a flipflopper and a liar.
Does Obama consider Jeremiah wright and Bill Ayers friends and mentors, or does he not?
Does Obama comsider raising the debt ceiling a failure of leadership, or does he not?
Did Obama promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term, or did he not?
Did Obama promise to run the most open and transparent administration in history, or did he not?
Did Obama promise to “reach across the aisle” and work with republicans, or did he not?
LMAO at the crybabies……
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
9:41 am
they just hate the current President so much, that anybody but Obama is the ONLY option (at whatever cost)
Need you state anything else? Haven’t we seen overwhelming proof of that line of thought already?
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:42 am
F. Sinkwich
Ft. Hood? wow a American soldier, why not Colorodo, AZ angery white men, I wonder would had happen if these guys were muslims? I guess it would have been Obama fault.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
9:42 am
Mary Elizabeth @ 9:39…
That is absolutely, positively, the funniest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks for sharing.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:43 am
“You Lie, ineloquently!” – Joe Wilson’s unedited remark
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:43 am
LOL Moonbat? Where did you ever come across that? Tate was funny but I must say I was more partial to ‘Geneva.”
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
9:46 am
@Good Fight
Exactamundo! This is why I just chuckle when I think about what these blogs will look like a year or two into a Romney presidency should he win, and the realities of Washington have set in and Mitt has found himself unable to pretend being something he is not. It’s a lose-lose for those who think they’re “in”. After all, most of THEM are the “47%” anyway. Mitt gives no damn about them! LOL
Mitt will OWE… Adelson, Koch, et al. If he doesn’t play after all they’ve paid (for him), he just might come up missin’! Another thing… they’ll look up and see the Middle East situation JUST AS IT HAS BEEN, tax policy JUST AS IT HAS BEEN (favoring the wealthy), etc. I am sure though a convenient amnesia will set in. The whole thing will be worth the price of admission in my opinion.
At least they will have taken back THEIR White House (and country) though. That’s all that matters to them.
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Obama will stand up and debate both Mitts one of the primary and one of the general, he should tell the liar to look in the camera and say it was wrong to save millions of auto workers jobs.
White history books 30 years from now will say Mitt gave the order to kill bin ladin and saved America from the brink of disaster, and has kept America safe for the last 4 years, and there was never 911 under Bush.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Brosephus, agreed.
By the way, our conned friends love to play the absurd race card. But here is an interesting quote from Ark. Republican Rep Jon Hubbard: “…the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth
Bro, you feeling blessed today? I mean white citizenship was basically just getting to the shores, but hey, you worked for it.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Vote for a better, more vibrant, tuth-free America
Just make stuff up and everyone will be happy!!!
Mary Elizabeth
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Ben Shockley, and your lack of grace in a response tells me greatly of who you are – as well as what side of the American divide you fall into. The opposite of mine.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
9:49 am
sorry to distract but this is a good read on the housing market:
http://www.alternet.org/economy/housing-market-hype-are-we-really-expected-believe-prices-will-rise-high-unemployment
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:50 am
Hollyweird needs to consider a remake of the popular Pee Wee Herman Show now that Obama will soon be available to play the lead role.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
9:55 am
I know the president is only responsible for gas prices if they have an (R) after their name.
Let me explain, once and for all, what made people believe Bush had responsibility for gas prices and Obama does not.
It wasn’t media bias. It wasn’t gas prices rising at a particular rate or being over a certain amount. It wasn’t the fact that one is Republican and one is Democrat.
Instead, it was the fact that both Bush AND Cheney owned previously or had stake in or connections in the oil industry. It was the fact that many on the right loudly proclaimed oil from Iraq would pay for the Iraq War, and Halliburton getting preferential no-bid treatment in the aftermath of invasion. The people, and part of the media, believed that the control did not come from the office of the President, but from the two people at the head of the executive branch controlling things on the oil front outside of the office responsibilities.
By contrast, Obama has no such connection. The right wing media repeatedly portray Obama as having absolutely zero private sector experience. They portray him as they do all Democrats: tree hugging and against oil (I work for an oil company and can tell you absolutely that, just like the gun nut crazy sh*t, Obama does NOT have it out for oil companies in a “you-must-die!” kind of way as the right portrays). Because of this, the media and the public would have a really hard time believing Obama has any control here. Spinmeisters try to make up reasons why he MUST be responsible instead, but to most people that comes off as far less plausible than a President who was once an oil baron and still has buddies in the industry.
tl;dr: Obama has no connections or influence in the oil industry. Bush and Cheney both did. Bush and Cheney having some control over gas prices is a more plausible theory than putting Obama in the exact same position in the theory.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:55 am
You can’t win a debate where facts are against you…….. Jacob A. Astor.
For principles
October 9th, 2012
9:56 am
Romney political intervention in the caucusses and vote rigging in the primaries altered the outcome of the primary process to his advantage. Why should anyone be surprised by his underhanded techniques in the general election.
jose
October 9th, 2012
9:58 am
I think that the Democratic excuse machine is in full operation. It would be more intellectualy honest not to blame the debate moderator (and I know you didn’t blame Lehrer, Jay) or concoct goofy stories like this. What happened in my opinion is that a lot of Americans are not happy about where the economy sits today and Romney’s performance gave us confidence that he would make it a priority and has the background to do something about it. We have doubts that Obama has the ability to take this on and the debate showed us that those doubts might be real.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
9:58 am
““You Lie, ineloquently!” – Joe Wilson’s unedited remark”
my 9th grade English teacher would have marked him down -15 points for the comma splice.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
10:01 am
Keep: Bro, you feeling blessed today? I mean white citizenship was basically just getting to the shores, but hey, you worked for it.
Rightwing Troll
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
Yes, but WHICH Mittens will stride into the Whitehouse???
“Severely Conservative” Mittens? Or unabashedly Moderate Mittens of last weds night?
Either one will have to deal with half of congress being against him and doing everything they can to put the kabosh on anything he wishes to do…
“Severely Conservative” Mittens will have dems against him and his agenda, unabashedly Moderate Mittens will have to deal with tea tardz and “fergit hell…” types..
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
Little girls being attacked…. a perfect example of gender/victim warfare. Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military. This is about Obama and Romney so why do you leftist’s continue to throw B.S. on the wall about Romney’s family if you don’t want the same done to Obama?
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
10:03 am
Stating an opinion that the children of the President probably won’t serve in the military is picking on 2 little girls?
Me thinks Fred is stretching pretty far to find something to be indignant about.
jose
October 9th, 2012
10:03 am
No president, R or D, can control gas prices. They are driven up by a middle eastern cartel which monopolizes crude oil production and artificially sets the market price. And we, in turn, willingly pay whatever the market charges because we are addicted to petroleum. Easy to blame some faceless company like Halliburton of fret over insidious inside political connections. Unfortunately, the answer lies in the middeast. And we, both Republican and Democrat, have been willing to send our young men to fight wars that are ultimately over oil and defend crazy regimes like the Saudis because they rule the cartel.
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
10:04 am
Polls will matter when
elections are held by
calling voters at home.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:05 am
S. UP — “Jay, are you in need of medication? For the past few months you believed that Obama was in the lead because of the polls. Now that the polls are shifting, you suddenly don’t believe them.”
Right. Jay believed it because of *the polls.* Plural.
But *the polls* haven’t shifted. *A* poll has. And that one poll is supposed to override all the others? Have you ever heard of something called an “outlier?”
The degree to which statistical innumeracy seems to pervade the ranks of the con faithful never ceases to amaze me.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
10:07 am
Nero continues to fiddle as Rome burns…http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/09/Obama-Camp-Attacks-With-big-Bird.
Micheal Ray Richardson
October 9th, 2012
10:07 am
Today’s odds from the offshore bookie: Obama -265; Romney +225.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 9th, 2012
10:08 am
Well, things is looking up. Soon we’ll have somebody with lots of Business experience in the White House. I always wanted my personal life to be just like my work life. You know, have somebody say, If you don’t like it don’t let the door hit you in the back side. And if I get in a jam I can have somebody say, your personal life ain’t no concern of mine. Start taking Personal Responsibility and stop making Bad Decisions. And if the air gets filthy and the water stops being fit to drink, be told, Stop breathing and drinking. We got a business to run around here, get out of the way.
Yup, it sure is going to be different when we have a Business man in the White House.
Have a good Tuesday everybody.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:08 am
Romney was more energetic and antimated during the debate. But that does not say much about how he will do as President.
Our economy is recovering and the war is winding down. We are on the right track.
Romeny does not have a plan. Just a lot of noise.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:09 am
Our 1st “Reality Show” President is more entertaining in his fantasy world known as “D.C” than Honey Booboo or the fat women trying on wedding dresses… but “Housewives of blah blah blah may be more dramatic.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:09 am
Best excuse: Wedding anniversary sex before the debate.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
10:10 am
Mary Elizabeth likes kool-aid. She drinks it by the pitcher.
What can one say other than: oh well. Another uninformed voter.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:10 am
Disclaimer: This guy here thinks Obama lost the debate. But I also think the liberals overreacted to him not being as “strong” and many had to be talked off a ledge.
The polls will probably settle more into a tightened race because the over-emotional liberal reaction will calm down.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
10:11 am
“They are driven up by a middle eastern cartel which monopolizes crude oil production and artificially sets the market price.”
Another excellent reason to vote for the Mittster. He believes in NA production of oil and other fossil fuels. O’bozo thinks we can beat OPEC with a solar powered windmill.
Good job, jose
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:13 am
“Morality” — “Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military. This is about Obama and Romney so why do you leftist’s continue to throw B.S. on the wall about Romney’s family if you don’t want the same done to Obama?”
You don’t get it, and neither does SHUT UP. It’s not about Romney’s family and it never was.
It’s the fact that when asked about his sons and whether or not they served in the military, he made it clear that to his family, ‘national service’ also means ‘volunteering in a political campaign.’ I’m sorry, but it’s not. There’s no way on earth that political volunteering is equivalent to actual military service — and Mitt clearly equated to two.
It just underlines how disconnected he is from average Americans (you know, the kind of people who would actually serve in the military) and how disdainful he is of rank-and-file military servicemembers and veterans.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:13 am
He believes in NA production of oil and other fossil fuels. O’bozo thinks we can beat OPEC with a solar powered windmill.
Anyone who thinks Obama has it out for the oil industry has no f***ing clue what they’re talking about. He only didn’t approve the pipeline because the Republicans forced him on a timetable that was impossible to meet if you know how to be a good project manager. He will approve it. He also lifted the moratorium in the gulf after essentially no useful changes had been made to regulation.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:14 am
“Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military”
um. yeah. the difference, of course, is that he didn’t avoid a DRAFT the way Mittens did.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
10:14 am
GOP – Guess Our Positions.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
he didn’t avoid a DRAFT the way Mittens did.
Those Frenchies weren’t going to convert themselves.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”. Samuel
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
Gas prices will stabilize
when there is a
Organization of Petroleum
Importing Countries (OPIC).
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
KUTGF — “GOP – Guess Our Positions.”
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!
We have a winner!
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
I wonder if Obama’s age had something to do with him not being drafted to serve in Vietnam. Nah.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
“Those Frenchies weren’t going to convert themselves.”
I’m soooooooooooooo supportive of the Viet Nam War, I’m going to go to the root of the problem … FRANCE!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:17 am
“Morality” — “Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”.
Tell you what. You ignore Samuel L. Jackson’s Ebony interview and I’ll ignore all those columns Chuck Norris has been writing for Townhall.com for the last couple of years.
Deal?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Maybe Jay Bookman can tell us why John Corzine is still not in cuffs even now almost a year after his firm’s debacle.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
SJK was actually being a little bit truthful . actually he didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s black…… would he vote for Herman Caine? He voted for Obama ‘ cause he’s a left wing big gub’ment socialist. Same reason Bill Maher voted for Obama.
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam? Did he, like Cheney, have “other priorities”?
I give him some credit….a Stanford prof sez he demonstrated *against* the anti-war demonstrators.
He snagged a Religious Minister deferment. He served 2 years in the jungles of France, enduring endless wine & cheese tastings.
In between, he’s credited with 2 kills (converts), probably the wine steward and the room service babe at the Mormon palace in Paris.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”.
Can someone explain to me why right wingers feel they need to re-post this bit of ephemera week after week?
I’m really at kind of a loss to comprehend just who’s supposed to give a good crap about it.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Since the debate, Obama has mentioned Big Bird and Elmo 13 times. He has failed to mention Libya or his plan to fix the economy even once. At least he’s sticking to the subjects that he understands!
MANGLER
October 9th, 2012
10:19 am
The posters that like to paste/paste/paste ad nauseum what they feel are broken promises from ‘08 when Obama was stumping need to remember that mindset should Romney win. All politicians clamor for their base when politicking, but when governing they must be more centered because they are no longer appealing to just their voters, but representing everyone.
Am I surprised that Romney switched to center moderate? Not at all. I didn’t expect it to be a full scale switch all at once in that first debate (and apparently neither did Obama). However, in doing so, he essentially abandoned most of his core principles that he’s been accepting donations in support of. I’m not so sure how his original Base is going to justify voting for him since he’s 180′d them again (or it is 540′d, or 900′d, or 1,260′d?). Obama’s message has not wavered in 4 years. Romneys has in the past 4 days.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
10:20 am
Stands: I’m really at kind of a loss to comprehend just who’s supposed to give a good crap about it
Because obviously no one, and I mean NO ONE, voted against Obama because he was black?
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:20 am
Save Big Bird and Elmo.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:21 am
DownInAlbany — “Since the debate, Obama has mentioned Big Bird and Elmo 13 times. He has failed to mention Libya or his plan to fix the economy even once. At least he’s sticking to the subjects that he understands!”
As opposed to Romney, who keeps jabbering about the military and foreign policy; two topics he knows nothing about.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:22 am
“Can someone explain to me why right wingers feel they need to re-post this bit of ephemera week after week?”
because one black celebrity represents all blacks, doncha know …
except, of course, unless they’re a black celebrity that supports Mittens … then they represent all democrats … or something
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:22 am
Missed this, earlier from RW:
That was actually a witty and quick on his feet retort to an out of left field charge from Kerry that Bush secretly owned a lumber yard.
I will acknowledge that GWB wasn’t the least bit rattled when he delivered that line; it just sounded like a bizarre, if very funny, thing to say.
Maybe it’s my inner Beavis and Butt-head that thinks this.
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:23 am
>>the change is attributed to an intervention on Romney’s behalf by his eldest son, Tagg,
and his wife, Ann, in which they demanded a more moderate approach.
An intervention, eh..
Wonder if they’re having him attend 12-step meetings, such as EA, (Extremists Anonymous).
georgia
October 9th, 2012
10:25 am
Romney was like a Jack-in-the-Box who popped up and exclaimed, “I can fix that!” No matter how absurd the assertion, no matter how impossible the connect-the-dots, and no matter how sound Obama’s reply was, Romney became this ridiculously-animated musical punctuation.
The moderator was a problem. He actually argued policy with Obama, and stepped on the subtle nuances of Obama’s delivery. He may as well have been stuffing ballots.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:26 am
“Wonder if they’re having him attend 12-step meetings, such as EA, (Extremists Anonymous).”
well, Ann did say that she was most worried about Mitt’s mental well-being if he’s elected.
I’m happy to alleviate that fear for her
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
10:26 am
Jay, Jay, Jay, this must be the new Dem talking points. There are polls showing a far larger margin for Romney. Independents now favor Romney by a far larger margin. The mythical womens vote has swung toward Romney. Florida is now solidly for Romney and Ohio is a toss up. If the election were held today, it would be a Romney landslide in spite of the fictional jobs report. But, 4 weeks a lot can change. Between now and then nothing will be beneath this training wheel administration’s desperate atempt at seizing power.
bman
October 9th, 2012
10:27 am
““I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”.
Samuel Jackson wasn’t serious – at least I don’t think so. He was trying to be funny….that’s what he does.
sam
October 9th, 2012
10:28 am
i used to wonder who are these people on the fringes that believe every lie and distortion about the ‘other side’ and are convinced the ‘other side’ is trying to destroy our country….i want to thank y’all for finally giving me some clarity on that question. please proceed
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:29 am
RIghty — ” There are polls showing a far larger margin for Romney. Independents now favor Romney by a far larger margin. The mythical womens vote has swung toward Romney. Florida is now solidly for Romney and Ohio is a toss up.”
Funny how you’ll ignore the dozens of polls that say otherwise, but when Pew comes out with a single outlier, you somehow decide that the single outlier is actually *many* polls that refute everything else that’s come before.
You’re not only as credulous as a toddler, you’re a living joke, Righty. Go back to high school algebra and learn some mathematics.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
10:30 am
The change in the “political narrative” has been the Democrat arrage of accusing an honest man of lying while their own campaign can’t express truth. The examples are too many to mention but the press has not problem repeating known lies.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:31 am
Mama …. sorry but no can do. “Snakes ON A Plane” should have won SLJ an Oscar for it’s “socially redeeming” message and his masterful performance. Chuck Norris is a Christian, served his country in Korea and he is a legitimate former full contact karate world champion several times over…… takes courage to voice your convictions when Hollyweird does not agree. I admire him for that. He has also helped thousands of inner city children through his youth programs. He’s real and SLJ – well he’s an actor.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:32 am
Romney’s big plan is to increase defense spending. Where will we get the money. Don’t know if China will lend us the money. They are about to cut us off. Time to reduce spending. LIke when Obama saved 716 billion of waste in medicare. Romney was against that. Does not want to save money and reduce spending.
Documental: La Biblia vs. el Libro de Mormón
October 9th, 2012
10:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5CavN3AABY
Jack
October 9th, 2012
10:34 am
Romney’s family changed the polls? It was Obama being himself during the debate that changed the polls.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:34 am
The only poll that counts is the last one – on voting day. LIKELY VOTERS. Dope addicts and prison inmates don’t vote.
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:38 am
“Wonder if they’re having him attend 12-step meetings, such as EA, (Extremists Anonymous).”
well, Ann did say that she was most worried about Mitt’s mental well-being if he’s elected.
They should have started his therapy 2 years ago…..but then he’d never have gotten the nomination.
(we don’t want no stinkin’ moderates)
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:39 am
“Morality” — “Mama …. sorry but no can do.”
I didn’t think so. Your “morality” doesn’t seem to permit for much honesty.
“Snakes ON A Plane” should have won SLJ an Oscar for it’s “socially redeeming” message and his masterful performance. Chuck Norris is a Christian, served his country in Korea and he is a legitimate former full contact karate world champion several times over…”
So? What difference does that make? Jackson and Norris are still actors. If you’re going to argue that one is full of pewp and should be ignored, then both are full of pewp and should be ignored — or else *you* are full of pewp and should be ignored.
“. . . takes courage to voice your convictions when Hollyweird does not agree.”
So what? What’s courage got to do with whether you’re full of pewp or not?
“I admire him for that. He has also helped thousands of inner city children through his youth programs. He’s real and SLJ – well he’s an actor.”
All of which is irrelevant to your argument w/r/t Jackson. You’re just reaching for excuses.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
10:39 am
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:29 am
Sorry Joe, your man is getting his butt whipped and all you can do is whine. He trails in the polls not because of the excuses Jay is repeating but because without teleprompeter, speech writers, and a fawining press his intellect was exposed for all to see. His inability to discuss his own policies scares most people. This race is all but over.
Jack in cumming
October 9th, 2012
10:40 am
Obama winging it with no real solutions to the issues is what changed the polls. Imagine if the welfare class wasn’t behind him
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:41 am
In the debate Obama couldn’t “evolve” fast enough for his smoke screen to cover him. Reminds me of the Wizard of Oz where the curtain was pulled back and the fake Obama ( er Oz) was revealed. Just hand the voters a ticking clock and tell them that is their heart. Are voters that naive? Appears that some of them now see Obama for what he is. OOPS! His curtain has been pulled back.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:41 am
we don’t want no stinkin’ moderates)
-
Guess he fooled you guys into thinking he was not a moderate. I think he is a (gasp) liberal. Passed Romney Care. Brags about how well it’s working. Critical of Obama for cuts in medicare.
Does not sound conservative to me.
Eminem's response to Mitt Romney
October 9th, 2012
10:42 am
“Let Detroit Go Bankrupt”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1IhXZD4Txs
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:44 am
“he should tell the liar to look in the camera and say it was wrong to save millions of auto workers jobs. ”
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Jack in cumming
October 9th, 2012
10:46 am
Now Obama can debate on why embassy marines don’t need real bullets
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:46 am
Dude got elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS for chrissakes, and passed a government health care bill while governor, and the left is now trying to portray him as a former right wing extremist trying to pass himself off as moderate.
Liberals are SO freaking funny…….
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:47 am
he should tell the liar to look in the camera and say it was wrong to save millions of auto workers jobs. ”
-___________
He thought it was wrong when he was a conservative going for the nomination. Now he’s a moderate and thinks the plan was a good one and supports it.
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:48 am
Shake the Etch-A-Sketch one more time, eh? That’s all this is- another attempt to say whatever it takes to get elected. His empty, flip-flop rhetoric and feeble attempts to appear “normal” won’t last. Romney just can’t own who he is, a rich guy who wants political power so he can help the other rich guys. I’d have a wee tad more respect for him if he’d just admit it. I guess we’ll see if enough voters are delusional enough to believe it. I’ve seen car salesmen with a better shtick than this.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:48 am
former right wing extremist trying to pass himself off as moderat
__________
No, he is a moderate who passed himself off as a right wing extremist to get the nomination.
GT
October 9th, 2012
10:48 am
The cocktail circuit in Atlanta last week was telling me how skewed the polls were. It was a comment, then the yep reflection, and the continued observation of how the polls are a conspiracy. It was as factual in the mind of the speaker as death and taxes. He sounded like the car salesman in Fargo trying to explain the 300,000 dollars missing from the loan department.
Jack Welsh looked like a shop lifter caught last Friday in interviews trying to explain his tweeted comments. He practically put Watergate in the lap of the labor department, but had empty pockets when asked for facts. It just doesn’t feel like a 7.8% unemployed economy, it was too convenient to have good news now.
Is this the view of the Republican Party, everything is a lie from the other side or in the labor department our side. Is there McCarthyism in this thinking? I don’t think this way, but now that they do, it makes me wonder if the conclusion is not part of their reality. We know Fox is a homer for the right on steroids, this bias news gathering was their idea, though they, on that too, try to rub it off on us. You live with thieves the first thought every night before bed is someone is going to steal from you. Everything is process through the reality of the observer.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:49 am
Righty — “Sorry Joe, your man is getting his butt whipped:”
Nope. the VAST majority of the polls say Romney’s going to have his azz handed to him.
“and all you can do is whine.”
Not at all. I just point out how pathetically uninformed and inaccurate your posts always turn out to be. You’re the squeaky wheel, Champ, and I’m the grease.
“He trails in the polls”
Fool. Obama trails in *a* poll. And here you are, just as I said. foolishly behaving as if that one single outlier of a poll proves your point. You’re PATHETIC. (laughing)
“not because of the excuses Jay is repeating but because without teleprompeter, speech writers, and a fawining press his intellect was exposed for all to see.”
Look who’s whining now. (laughing)
“His inability to discuss his own policies scares most people.”
Yes, Romney’s inability to give specifics about his own policies does, in fact, trouble me.
“This race is all but over.”
And has been so for weeks. Hope you like surprises, Champ.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:49 am
I don’t think GM and Chrysler combined employ “millions” of people, and if they had gone bankrupt, the other automakers would have hired new people and picked up the slack.
But you tools just go on believing the fiction.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
10:49 am
because one black celebrity represents all blacks, doncha know …
Sam’s not just any Black celebrity. He’s a muthaf&$%* Black celebrity.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:50 am
I’ve seen car salesmen with a better shtick than this.
_________
Romney could never make it as a car salesman. Insult to the car salesman of the world to compare the two.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:50 am
“No, he is a moderate who passed himself off as a right wing extremist to get the nomination.”
Oh, so he out right-winged Newt and Herman Cain?
LMAO
kayaker 71
October 9th, 2012
10:50 am
Bozo, after 4 years of a compliant press and a crowd of sycophants that wouldn’t dare disagree with him, has finally come up against someone who will call him out. Narcissists don’t like to have someone disagree with them. Narcissists are always right. That big White House and the green helicopter have gotten to this guy in the worst way. Michelle enjoys the long vacations, Bozo enjoys the golf and the fawning media telling him that he is the greatest thing since sliced bread…… he just ignores the truth. He couldn’t lead ants to a picnic and most anyone who can recognize what a leader should be realizes this. And as far as this country being run by old white conservatives…… we ain’t through yet.
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:51 am
“and the left is now trying to portray him as a former right wing extremist trying to pass himself off as moderate.”
Well, that’s what he did to himself. He was a moderate while governor, but suddenly “saw the light” as the presidential campaigns neared. Hell, he didn’t even join the NRA until 2006. The liberals don’t have to paint anything- Mitt jumped into the bucket of paint head first and now wants to whitewash the whole thing as just a change of heart. YEAH, right. It’s like he’s got an identical twin- one of them is uber-conservative and the other’s moderate. Which one we’ll see next week, who knows?
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:51 am
Mary Elizabeth:
Ben Shockley, and your lack of grace in a response tells me greatly of who you are – as well as what side of the American divide you fall into. The opposite of mine.
Just ignore the Shockjock. Dunno why he’s skipping conservative choir practice next door.
Was just thinking….conservatives ain’t what they used to be…….
This R writer stole my thunder:
Rogue Republican
(snipped)
But today’s Republican party is no longer my Republican party. Back in the day, the GOP was run by East Coast elite of well-educated, sophisticated internationalists who exercised America’s great power with restraint.
Alas, they have been replaced by rural politicians from the deep south and west with no knowledge of the outside world and no sense of history or culture. America’s closet fascist neocons write the GOP’s foreign policies.
http://lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis312.html
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:52 am
Even used car salesmen have more intellect and integrity than community organizers.
Just sayin’…….
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:53 am
the other automakers would have hired new people and picked up the slack.
_______
Have to disagree on this. If GM and Chrysler had gone under, the parts suppliers would also have gone under. Ford would not have suppliers to furnish them parts for their cars and also would have gone under. Could not have made the cars.
Would have been millions when you consider all the suppliers, car workers, dealerships and sales people in the industry.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
10:53 am
O’bozo will perform no better in the next debates. He doesn’t have it in him. What he displayed last week was who he is, an empty suit.
It wasn’t all his fault, of course. His life has been one inconsequence after another. Surrounded by yes-men and women his whole life, he’s never been challenged. And for the past six years the MSM has behaved like 12 year old girls to O’bozo’s Justin Bieber.
He can’t be someone he’s not — a leader like the Mittster. That’s why O’bozo despises him so.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:53 am
“Ben Shockley, and your lack of grace in a response tells me greatly of who you are –”
You don’t seem to have any problem with the lefty bloggers who “lack grace.”
Irony can be so ironic…..
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:53 am
“Dude got elected governor of MASSACHUSETTS for chrissakes, and passed a government health care bill while governor, and the left is now trying to portray him as a former right wing extremist trying to pass himself off as moderate.”
wow. you really haven’t been paying attention, have you – he was for abortion before he was against it, he was for gay marriage before he was against it, he was for government mandated healthcare before he was against it (and is now for it again), — you name an issue, he has flip flopped on it.
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:53 am
“Oh, so he out right-winged Newt and Herman Cain?”
Puhleeease, like it was that hard to do. He had more money and a better personal reputation that either Gingrich or Cain. He didn’t have to “out right-wing” them, he just had to trot out an ex-wife and a couple of mistresses. How challenging was that?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:54 am
“Sam’s not just any Black celebrity. He’s a muthaf&$%* Black celebrity”
word.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:55 am
K71 — “Narcissists don’t like to have someone disagree with them. Narcissists are always right.”
“We’ve given you people all that we plan to release.”
–A Narcissist
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
10:55 am
USinIK,
I already posted a brief, incomplete list of Obama’s lies and flipflops.
That koolaid is leaving a purple mustache on your upper lip.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
10:56 am
As opposed to Romney, who keeps jabbering about the military and foreign policy; two topics he knows nothing about.
And, Obama does? hahaha
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:57 am
Speaking of Pew polls (just some food for thought here):
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/survey-one-in-five-americans-is-religiously-unaffiliated/comment-page-33/
Washington (CNN) – The fastest growing “religious” group in America is made up of people with no religion at all, according to a Pew survey showing that one in five Americans is not affiliated with any religion.
The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, according to a survey released Tuesday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
The survey found that the ranks of the unaffiliated are growing even faster among younger Americans.
Thirty-three million Americans now have no religious affiliation, with 13 million in that group identifying as either atheist or agnostic, according to the new survey.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:57 am
Mama – just pointing out that Norris is real ……. a five time full contact karate world champion. SLJ fight’s are all fiction. Chuck Norris has been supporting inner city youth with his time and money for years. That’s real. He lives his convictions through actions. SLJ’s reason for voting for Obama was bizarre but lacking in the full truth. He voted for Obama (if he voted at all) because he is in tune with Hollyweird’s views for our future in a European style socialist gub’ment world. That won’t keep from going to SLJ’s movies as long as they aren’t as awful as “Snakes On A Plane”. That was AWFUL.
kayaker 71
October 9th, 2012
10:57 am
Romney represents everything Bozo abhors. A white, successful, wealthy business man who is the product of a capitalistic society that believes in a free market economy, smaller government, budget restraints and less regulation. No wonder Bozo can’t stand him.
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:57 am
Go downstairs one level Ben, for a brief list on p. 11 of Romney’s flip-flops. They outnumber Obama considerably and have a lot more years on the shelf. Should I repost for you here?
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:58 am
““Oh, so he out right-winged Newt and Herman Cain?””
he just had to remain on this side of the grass to beat Newt and Cain – fercryingoutloud – Cain imploded on his own and Newt’s string of infidelities (not to mention his general a-hole-ish demeanor) did him no favors
Jack in cumming
October 9th, 2012
10:58 am
I just hope the next debate is somewhere with less thin air. It’s obvious the altitude was a factor
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:59 am
“A white, successful, wealthy business man who is the product of a capitalistic society that believes in a free market economy, smaller government, budget restraints and less regulation.”
Helps that he had Big Daddy to fund his start in capitalistic society. It’s easy when you’re born to money and have parents who can loan you all you need. Silver spoons are not dispensed at every birth.
Tking
October 9th, 2012
11:00 am
Obviously, Mr. Romney should get a bounce from his strong (although dishonest) debate performance. However, this poll is quite flawed because it takes results right after the debate and compares them to some random point in September and then tries to recast the election picture as a whole. This election has had many events that have taken place since mid-september. Plus, who was polled was key. Thus, I do not understand why folks are focusing so much on this flawed poll. Again, more shiny objects. Is anyone really looking at these issues? Is anyone really delving into the substance. I will admit the President should be laying out a stonger defense of what he has done and should point us toward his vision of the future. However, Mr. Romney’s lack of specifics and flat out lying is the worst I have ever seen. He is a businessman trying to close the deal. This means he will say anything to get the sale. People, please look at these issues, this election is too important. Plus, it’s not just about the top of the ticket. The down ballot elections will say a lot more about where we are headed.
kayaker 71
October 9th, 2012
11:00 am
RF, 10:59,
Oh, the envy is palpable.
the cat
October 9th, 2012
11:01 am
Off topic-
sandusky 30 to 60 years. Not enough, needs to be castrated with a butter knife on top of an ant hill. We can only hope Bubba finds himself a new girlfriend.
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:02 am
Here are a few highlights of Romney’s flips and flops:
1. Healthcare: created the model for Obamacare, but now says he’ll repeal the whole act. But then said he’d repeal and replace it. With what, pray tell?
2. Pathway to citizenship: was for it, now adamantly against it.
3. Said he was independent during Reagan/Bush era and didn’t want to return to it. Now Reagan is one of his heroes.
4. Supported ban on assault weapons and Brady bill- now opposed to any gun legislation.
5. As governor of Mass., he opposed a constitutional amendment on marriage definition. Now supports it.
6. 1994- said he was more pro-choice than Kennedy in his failed senate bid. OMG if he dared say that now…
7. Publicly supported a woman’s right to choose while running for and serving as governor. Now….totally against it and would support personhood amendment.
The flip-flop on healthcare, after he spent years touting the law he helped craft in Massachusetts, ought to have gotten him booted off the platform back in Iowa, but he came out the best idiot in the room by NH. I’m not sure what it says when the best candidate your party can put forth would repeal a law modeled after the one he created as governor of a state.
East Lake Ira
October 9th, 2012
11:02 am
“I’m lying a lot more, and my lies are far more egregious than they’ve ever been,” a smiling Romney told reporters while sitting in the back of his campaign bus…. “The best part is, it’s really easy to lie,” said Romney, who added that voicing whatever untruths come into his mind at any given moment is an easy thing to do because all it requires is opening his mouth and talking. “For example, if someone accuses me of having a tax plan that makes no discernable sense, I just lie and say that I do have a tax plan that makes sense. I also say there is a study that backs up my plan. See that? Simple.
Snark with a ring of truthiness?
Jm
October 9th, 2012
11:03 am
I’ll take a southern democrat, like Bill Clinton, or a northern Republican, like Romney
But I cannot abide by a northern liberal (Obama).
Ugh. Awful. Yuck.
Fire him.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:03 am
DownInAlbany: As opposed to Romney, who keeps jabbering about the military and foreign policy; two topics he knows nothing about.
And, Obama does? hahaha
Ask Osama bin Laden
Thomas
October 9th, 2012
11:03 am
Usin or whatever the hell your name is- Clinton was labeled the “great compromiser”. Our leftist now ignorantly label this as flip flopping.
Everyone needs to get the bucket off their head as it is with intelligence that one realizes that 50% of the country (or world for that matter) at any given time are not dumb arses.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:03 am
Ben: I already posted a brief, incomplete list of Obama’s lies and flipflops.
“It’s ok if Romney lies because DEMMY DID IT TOO!”
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:04 am
DownInAlbany — “And, Obama does?”
Whether he does or not has no bearing whatsoever on Romney’s ignorance of those topics.
Oh, and hahahahaha.
bman
October 9th, 2012
11:05 am
“Helps that he had Big Daddy to fund his start in capitalistic society. It’s easy when you’re born to money and have parents who can loan you all you need.”
Of course it helps. But, it doesn’t guarantee success. New start-up companies burn through millions – even billions and fail.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
11:06 am
“The down ballot elections will say a lot more about where we are headed.”
Yeah, like 2010.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
11:07 am
“But I cannot abide by a northern liberal (Obama).”
Hawaii is “northern”??? Illinois is many things, but “northern” isn’t one of them.
wow. epic geography fail.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:08 am
“Morality” — “Mama – just pointing out that Norris is real …”
Irrelevant.
“. a five time full contact karate world champion. SLJ fight’s are all fiction.”
What does any of that have to do with whether you should be paying attention to what a given celebrity has to say about politics or not?
“Chuck Norris has been supporting inner city youth with his time and money for years. That’s real.”
And irrelevant to your argument.
“He lives his convictions through actions.”
So? What’s that got to do with what you said about SLJ?
“SLJ’s reason for voting for Obama was bizarre but lacking in the full truth. He voted for Obama (if he voted at all) because he is in tune with Hollyweird’s views for our future in a European style socialist gub’ment world.”
Even if he did, what’s it to you? And how does that make Norris’ views any less irrelevant?
“That won’t keep from going to SLJ’s movies as long as they aren’t as awful as “Snakes On A Plane”. That was AWFUL.”
I get it. You’re predicating your trust of Hollywood celebrities and their public political statements on whether or not you like their work and what they do in their private lives. In other words, you use the same value judgments as a teenybopper who LUVS Justin Bieber.
bullwinkle
October 9th, 2012
11:08 am
The real Mitt is on videotape: “I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives,” he said of nearly half the country. The guy defines people’s character by their economic status. That’s all I’ll ever need to know about him.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
11:09 am
” Clinton was labeled the “great compromiser”. Our leftist now ignorantly label this as flip flopping.”
oh, my … the “great compromiser” had nothing to do with changing his position like he changes his socks (helllloooooooooo Romney)- it had to do with his willingness to work with the GOP.
I just find it funny that the GOP took Kerry to task for “I was for it before I was against it” – and yet turn a blind eye to the NUMEROUS cases of their current candidate doing the exact same thing.
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:12 am
“wow. epic geography fail.”
Don’t you know anything north of the Mason-Dixon line doesn’t exist in God’s country?? I know you’re in the UK, but surely you knew that!
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
11:12 am
To me the race of Samuel L. Jackson is irrelevant……. not the reason I quoted him. Saying he voted for someone because of their race is hypocritical of someone that accuses others of being racist. Do I think SLJ is racist – don’t know but his remarks were. Of all the reasons to vote for or against someone why would their race even be on the list? It’s like when people told me I had to vote for Jimmy Carter because he was from Georgia and Georgia had never had a native Georgian elected President before. Talk about a stupid reason to vote for someone.. just couldn’t pull the lever for Jimmy.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
11:14 am
“Don’t you know anything north of the Mason-Dixon line doesn’t exist in God’s country?”
if you tasted Chicago ribs, you might change your mind …
HOG Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation’s Freight Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:
They tell me you are wicked and I believe them, for I
have seen your painted women under the gas lamps
luring the farm boys.
And they tell me you are crooked and I answer: Yes, it
is true I have seen the gunman kill and go free to
kill again.
And they tell me you are brutal and my reply is: On the
faces of women and children I have seen the marks
of wanton hunger.
And having answered so I turn once more to those who
sneer at this my city, and I give them back the sneer
and say to them:
Come and show me another city with lifted head singing
so proud to be alive and coarse and strong and cunning.
Flinging magnetic curses amid the toil of piling job on
job, here is a tall bold slugger set vivid against the
little soft cities;
Fierce as a dog with tongue lapping for action, cunning
as a savage pitted against the wilderness,
Bareheaded,
Shoveling,
Wrecking,
Planning,
Building, breaking, rebuilding,
Under the smoke, dust all over his mouth, laughing with
white teeth,
Under the terrible burden of destiny laughing as a young
man laughs,
Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has
never lost a battle,
Bragging and laughing that under his wrist is the pulse.
and under his ribs the heart of the people,
Laughing!
Laughing the stormy, husky, brawling laughter of
Youth, half-naked, sweating, proud to be Hog
Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with
Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
11:15 am
eat it sandusky
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
11:15 am
the left is now trying to portray him as a former right wing extremist trying to pass himself off as moderate.
Nah, Romney’s doing that all on his own…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20
Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: I will not reduce the taxes paid by high income Americans.
Mitt Romney, 2/22/12: There were so many misrepresentations in there it’s going to take me a little while. Number one, I said today that we’re going to cut taxes on everyone across the country by twenty percent—including the top one percent.
………………………
Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: The key to great schools? Great teachers. So I reject the idea that I don’t believe in great teachers or more teachers.
Mitt Romney, 6/8/12: He says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It’s time for us to cut back on government.
………………………
Mitt Romney, 10/3/12: Actually, it’s a lengthy description, but number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan.
Mitt Romney, 3/27/12: If they’re 45 years old and they show up and they say I want insurance because I’ve got heart disease, it’s like: “Hey guys, we can’t play the game like that.” You’ve got to get insurance when you’re well, and then if you get ill, then you’re going to be covered.
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
11:15 am
(Oh how I LOVE to do stuff like this *snicker*) Hey @Morality!!
Here is why Samuel L.Jackson and his “shctick”-like comment is so absurdly relevant:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-highest-grossing-actor-guinness-book-world-records-254155
I just thought I’d toss it out there, since you tried to diminish him by elevating Norris’s “KARATAY” and stunt skills. Laughable. There IS NO comparison.
Repeat… HIGHEST!
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
11:16 am
One of the more remarkable things about Mitt Romney was that he was a one term Governor and re bought all of the government hard drives used during his one term. Why, one wonders? It’s things like that that get my “Danger, danger, Will Robinson” meter going all twitchy.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:17 am
“Morality” — “To me the race of Samuel L. Jackson is irrelevant……. not the reason I quoted him. Saying he voted for someone because of their race is hypocritical of someone that accuses others of being racist.”
And it’s no less racist a thing than saying ‘well, this is why pretty much every OTHER black person voted for Obama.’
Yeah, Jackson had a stupid reason, if that’s actually why he did it (and that wasn’t just him joking around). But Jackson doesn’t speak for all black Americans any more than Obama or Oprah does.
kayaker 71
October 9th, 2012
11:17 am
Jackson is an angry man. He seems to be carrying around a chip on his shoulder and is daring someone to knock it off. There are a lot of Samuel L. Jacksons out there.
Jack in cumming
October 9th, 2012
11:18 am
At least unemplyment is dropping. If people keep leaving the workforce it can drop further!
Jm
October 9th, 2012
11:18 am
Usinuk – so incredibly weak
Northern liberal is a mindset. Nand Chicago still qualifies.
Strictly speaking, Romney isn’t a northerner either based on his roots.
As always, anything other than Homer Simpson quality commentary blows right over your head
Man you are dense
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:18 am
K. Balls — “I just thought I’d toss it out there, since you tried to diminish him by elevating Norris’s “KARATAY” and stunt skills.”
We should also observe that Bruce Lee kicked Chuck Norris’ azz.
paulo977
October 9th, 2012
11:18 am
USinUK …”“sausage fingers” is one thing … but I’m struggling to figure out why he’s flinging Clinton quotes at me”
_________________________________________________
Could it be because he cannot forgive what Bush did to the SURPLUS Bill gave him???
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:19 am
K71 — “Jackson is an angry man. He seems to be carrying around a chip on his shoulder and is daring someone to knock it off. There are a lot of Samuel L. Jacksons out there.”
Physician, heal thyself.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:19 am
Want to know what Romney’s policies are? Just go to http://www.roboromney.com/ and enter in your preferred position on key issues. The site will generate a video for you that agrees with whatever your positions are completely.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
11:20 am
Mitt Romney:
The attacks against us in Libya were not an isolated incident. They were accompanied by anti-American riots in nearly two dozen other countries, mostly in the Middle East, but also in Africa and Asia. Our embassies have been attacked. Our flag has been burned. Many of our citizens have been threatened and driven from their overseas homes by vicious mobs, shouting ‘Death to America.’
—
So according to Mitt Romney, the only problem in the Middle East is the fact that there are expressions of disrespect towards America there.
Wow.
Obviously the only reason the Middle East exists is to worship the glory of the United States of America.
This is the level of our political discourse eleven years after 9/11.
And we wonder why they blew up the towers.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:20 am
At least unemployment is dropping. If people keep leaving the workforce it can drop further!
On key statistic of last month’s jobs report is that MORE PEOPLE JOINED the workforce.
bman
October 9th, 2012
11:22 am
The V.P. debate is Thursday. It might play a much larger role than so-called experts believe…
Mormon missionaries taught NOT to tell the truth
October 9th, 2012
11:23 am
This might be where Romney learned his fast talking lies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3I6t3VodO4
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:23 am
Also, if you dont’ like the polls, you can adjust the samples to make yourself feel better here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/pollmanipulator.html
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:23 am
“if you tasted Chicago ribs, you might change your mind …”
Oh but I have, and they’re delish!! I actually haven’t had ribs anywhere that I didn’t like. Not as fond of the vinegar-based Carolina sauce, but it ain’t bad on the side. Memphis is still my favorite, geography not considered.
Road Scholar
October 9th, 2012
11:23 am
East Lake Ira: Do you have that on tape/video?
Mick
October 9th, 2012
11:24 am
Funny how the cons truly hate and despise obama while the dems just really don’t want romney because of his policies and more tax cuts for the wealthy. Ben, yaker and mighty are nowhere people who get fired up on their hate..
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
11:24 am
I guess the liar meme wasn’t working so the lib ilks are going to the flip-flopper theme. Surely something will stick.
47%! Robber baron! Silver spoon! Bain! Etc.!
That kind of stuff was working until last week when America saw for themselves what a leader the Mittster is and the empty suit that is O’bozo.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
11:26 am
Joe Hussein Mama: Whether he does or not has no bearing whatsoever on Romney’s ignorance of those topics. Soooo, what’s your point in even bringing it up?
Oh, by the way, Obama was quoted this morning saying, “Al Qaeda is on it’s heels” Now, do you want to discuss who is out of touch?
Or what about this subject, “Obama.com owned by Shanghai bundler with connections to the Chinese government.”
Would you like to discuss those issues? Naw, didn’t think so…
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:27 am
DownInAlbany: Would you like to discuss those issues? Naw, didn’t think so…
Shorter DIA: JHM HAS ME! QUICK, CHANGE THE SUBJECT!
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:28 am
“I guess the liar meme wasn’t working so the lib ilks are going to the flip-flopper theme. Surely something will stick.”
Sticks pretty well. Romney 6.0 is yet another attempt to shed his past…but it ain’t working. You can erase the Etch-A-Sketch, but people do have memories and videotape. Kinda hard to accept the truth, but that doesn’t make it go away because he said something new and better.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
11:28 am
Mama – No you don’t “get it”. 1st of all you brought up Chuck Norris – not me. I don’t vote for anyone based on a celebrities opinion. I am just saying that in the real world (outside of Hollyweird) Norris has achieved success and has actively helped inner city youth with his time and money for years. It doesn’t have anything at all to do with why SLJ voted (maybe) for Obama. You brought up Chuck Norris – not me. Just defending his right to his opinion. I know SLJ is left of mainstream and Chuck is right of mainstream Hollyweird. Took guts to speak out when being black balled
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:30 am
Shake that Etch-A-Sketch REAL HARD
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
11:30 am
“Funny how the cons truly hate and despise obama”
No, just his euro-socialist policies.
But you knew that.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
11:30 am
Sandwich: “That kind of stuff was working until last week when America saw for themselves what a leader the Mittster is and the empty suit that is O’bozo.”
Quick, tell me: did you support Mitt Romney from the get go, over Gingrich and Perry?
Adam
October 9th, 2012
11:30 am
No, just his euro-socialist policies.
Oh? Please name them.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
11:31 am
Sandwich: “No, just his euro-socialist policies.”
Seriously, your intelligence level is no higher than that?
Wow, that’s 3rd grade stuff. If that.
Mick
October 9th, 2012
11:32 am
sink
Glad you’re here, can you give me an example of obama apologizing for america? Since you make the charge…
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
11:32 am
“Northern liberal is a mindset. Nand Chicago still qualifies. Strictly speaking, Romney isn’t a northerner either based on his roots. As always, anything other than Homer Simpson quality commentary blows right over your head. Man you are dense”
pauvre enfant … when the facts don’t support you, you revert to ad hominem attacks …
Illinois is the midwest – not the north
and no, “northern” isn’t a mindset – it’s a geographic reality.
granted, I’ve been drifting in and out as I’m working on spreadsheets, but to my knowledge, no one here has said anything about Mitt’s birthplace (isn’t he claiming it to be Mexico?? or is that just his spiritual home??)
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
11:33 am
Adam, JHM is the least of my worries. He’s just such an easy target. We call it “shooting fish in a barrel” down in south Jawja! He accused Romney of not having military / foreign policy experience. Unfortunately, the only applicable experience O has is in the last four years. How’s that working out? (let me give you a clue…Libya)
You still haven’t answered the question from Friday…what happened to the 250,000. Until you get the intestinal fortitude to do that…
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
11:33 am
MARTA spent $144,000 on help for top management
There’s your sign. Sigh
Life is always eaasier when spending OPM.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
11:34 am
“HOUSTON – A man who lost a son to the war in Afghanistan is disappointed in the condolence letter he received from President Barack Obama. Tom Logan, a Willis resident, calls the note late, impersonal, disrespectful and essentially a form letter. “It opened up a wound in our heart you can’t fix. You can’t send another letter. You can’t make it right,” ”
No wonder the Mittster is 40 points plus ahead with the military and vet vote…
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:35 am
Albany: so what about the clearly proven ties between Romney’s “blind trust” and Chinese oil? From http://www.businessinsider.com/mitt-romneys-chinese-investments-2012-9
“Of course, the Romney campaign has argued that holding these stocks in a blind trust means he didn’t invest in them himself, immunizing him from any apparent hypocrisy. But the trust where Romney has parked his $250 million fortune is arguably not all that blind: It’s in the hands of his personal lawyer and longtime associate…”
And just so you know how Romney’s “investment” was used (from the same article):
“The China National Offshore Oil Corporation has been no stranger to controversy. As a state-owned enterprise, its repeated attempts to acquire energy companies in North America has raised hackles and fears in Washington.”
So the Chinese are investing in Obama after Romney invested in them. So does that mean that Romney indirectly could own part of the Obama campaign?? Perish the thought!
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
11:37 am
“I hope Big Bird stomps the Cons in November”
Hint: That big yellow thing is not real.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
11:39 am
Pats by 3
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
11:39 am
Mama – Thought Police? Don’t go there. I don’t think that MOST African Americans voted for Obama because he is black. I expect some did but most of them voted for him because he was the democrat candidate……… if he had been the republican candidate I don’t think he would have gotten more than 15 % of the black vote. Some people voted for the republican candidate because he was white and Obama is black ….. but not many. There are racists on the left and right. I don’t think Obama’s race got him elected ……. “W” got him elected.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
11:39 am
I know how Democrats just hate statistics because they usually dispute their touchy feely not based on facts world. But, here are the latest Rassmussen poll of “likely” voters. Rassmussen has the reputation, which of course will be disputed in spite of the facts by Democrats. of being the most acurate pollster. Please note the inclusion of Michigan and Pennsylvania. Other pollsters are now saying Pennsylvania is now up for grabs with Husseins lead which was double digit now within the margin of error.
Tuesday, October 09, 2012
The full Swing State tracking update offers Rasmussen Reader subscribers a combined view of the results from 11 key states won by President Obama in 2008 and thought to be competitive in 2012. The states collectively hold 146 Electoral College votes and include Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin.
In the 11 swing states, Mitt Romney earns 49% support to Obama’s 47%. One percent (1%) likes another candidate, and three percent (3%) are undecided.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
11:39 am
But I’ll give you this, Sandwich:
In the sheer naivete (don’t bother looking it up, it’s a “euro” word – better you just don’t know what it means) of your oversimplified understanding of our political reality, and the admirable dutifulness with which you lay it all out there for us here day in and day out, you do show engagement. So I’ll give you that.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
11:40 am
All this hand wringing.
Obama is still going to win easily.
The electoral map is still heavily in his favor. That hasn’t changed.
It will be a cakewalk.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
11:41 am
Mick: not sink but….Glad you’re here, can you give me an example of obama apologizing for america? Since you make the charge…
In America, there’s a failure to appreciate Europe’s leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.” (Strasbourg, France)
“Another issue that confronts all democracies as they move to the future is how we deal with the past. The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history.” (Ankara, Turkey)
“While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms.” (Port of Spain)
Don’t be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we’ve made some mistakes. That’s how we learn.” (Langley, VA)
“Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. … I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford. And during this season of fear, too many of us — Democrats and Republicans, politicians, journalists, and citizens — fell silent. In other words, we went off course.” (Washington DC)
Is that enough or should I continue?
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
11:41 am
Mama – Always “nice” to chat with you. Later.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
11:42 am
Good Tuesday morning, gang.
I worked until 4:30AM, got a few hours sleep and right back at it!
Man, I love the Obama Recovery!
Glad you’re here, can you give me an example of obama apologizing for america? Since you make the charge…
Mick, our beloved Andy “Reporter/Whiner” Pinkowich doesn’t DO examples. Or specifics. Or anything factual. He just slings poo against his cage bars.
Yesterday was great. And hats off to the always cool getalife.
Sinkwich is Andy, Lee is b-troll boy/Jm and td is Doomy. How many more “alter-egos do we have here? LOL!
Our five nutjob cons are masquerading as twenty cons!
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
11:42 am
The rallying cry of a desperate lost soul:
“I very much intend to win this election,” Obama told donors in San Francisco Monday night. “But we’re only going to do it if everybody is almost obsessive for the next 29 days.”
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:44 am
Mighty: Romney’s up by a couple, for the first time….ever. That’s after ONE debate and a pretty darn good enthusiasm score. That doesn’t erase the gaffes and fumbles of the last couple of decades, but we’ll have to see how that lead solidifies or falls. I’d keep the cork in the bubbly for a few more weeks, just in case.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
11:45 am
hmm… Don’t see the word “sorry” or “apology,” so you lose.
Better that you stay Down in Albany.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
11:46 am
Jm: “Northern liberal is a mindset. Nand Chicago still qualifies. Strictly speaking, Romney isn’t a northerner either based on his roots”
What on earth does that mean, pray tell. Are you making some sort of cryptic ethnic statement?
Otherwise, surely you’re referring to the fact that the North was industrialized long before the South and therefore it reflects interest-group formations typical of that kind of society in different ways than the South.
In such a social environment, no faction is more central and powerful than the corporatists and industrial leaders who oversee the major enterprises and firms. There was no more loyal a representative of that social class than Mitt Romney’s own father of American Motors and Governor of Michigan.
The Romneys are products of the Northern post-industrial managerial class par excellence. So your claim is completely nonsense.
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:47 am
“I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight; that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions. Instead of strategically applying our power and our principles, too often we set those principles aside as luxuries that we could no longer afford.”
That’s a statement of fact, IMO.
Not an apology. Try again!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:47 am
DownInAlbany — “Oh, by the way, Obama was quoted this morning saying, “Al Qaeda is on it’s heels” Now, do you want to discuss who is out of touch?”
Yeah. It’s Romney.
Just in case you weren’t paying attention, A-Q isn’t sailing jetliners into NYC skyscrapers any more, Champ.
“Or what about this subject, “Obama.com owned by Shanghai bundler with connections to the Chinese government.”
Evidence? Link?
“Would you like to discuss those issues? Naw, didn’t think so…”
I’d be more than happy to discuss those issues with you. And you don’t need to answer for me, as I’m completely capable of answering for myself.
BTW, nice pivot from Romney being completely ignorant on the subjects of the military and foreign policy. I didn’t think YOU wanted to discuss THOSE issues anyway. (laughing, pointing)
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
11:47 am
In an interesting new story at Politico, the change is attributed to an intervention on Romney’s behalf by his eldest son, Tagg, and his wife, Ann, in which they demanded a more moderate approach.
And it’s what candidates do. In order to win the primary, he had to appear more ideology driven, now in the general election he has to appear more moderate.
It’s telling that republicans are less concerned about purity and more concerned about beating Obama at any cost.
But why didn’t you nominate a true moderate in the first place?
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:49 am
“our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.”
Bet that had Rove, Cheney, and a few others fumbling for the blood pressure pills!
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
11:50 am
And this from Andrew Sullivan, yes Andrew Sullivan:
Did Obama Just Throw The Entire Election Away?
The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating. Before the debate, Obama had a 51 – 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 – 45 lead. That’s a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October. Before Obama had leads on every policy issue and personal characteristic; now Romney leads in almost all of them. Obama’s performance gave Romney a 12 point swing! I repeat: a 12 point swing.
Romney’s favorables are above Obama’s now. Yes, you read that right. Romney’s favorables are higher than Obama’s right now. That gender gap that was Obama’s firewall? Over in one night:
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html
USMC
October 9th, 2012
11:50 am
More trouble for the Obama Campaign…
Sesame Street asks Obama campaign to take down Big Bird ad
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/260949-sesame-street-asks-obama-campaign-to-take-big-bird-ad-down
Even Bigbird doesn’t like Chairman Oba(mao)!
td
October 9th, 2012
11:51 am
Just as I predicted would happen if Obama was behind in the polls in October:
http://twitchy.com/2012/10/09/new-civility-obama-supporters-threaten-to-riot-if-romney-wins/
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:51 am
Joe: Romney’s blind trust held stock in the state-owned Chinese oil company. And that’s a fact since they just recently sold said stock after being called out on it. But facts don’t matter on the right as much as good innuendo.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:51 am
“Morality” — “Mama – No you don’t “get it”. 1st of all you brought up Chuck Norris – not me.”
Because you were arguing that celebrities should STFU about politics. But you sure changed your tune when I brought up Norris, didn’t you? (laughing)
“I don’t vote for anyone based on a celebrities opinion. I am just saying that in the real world (outside of Hollyweird) Norris has achieved success and has actively helped inner city youth with his time and money for years.”
Which is irrelevant to whether or not one should listen to what he’s got to say about politics.
“It doesn’t have anything at all to do with why SLJ voted (maybe) for Obama.”
I didn’t say it did.
“You brought up Chuck Norris – not me. Just defending his right to his opinion.”
Oh, and SLJ doesn’t have a right to *his* opinion? I see where this is going.
“I know SLJ is left of mainstream and Chuck is right of mainstream Hollyweird. Took guts to speak out when being black balled”
Spare me. Tom Cruise is absolutely insane, IMO, and it doesn’t seem to hurt him at the box office.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
11:52 am
It’s telling that republicans are less concerned about purity and more concerned about beating Obama at any cost.
The telling action will be if Romney loses. They are going to veer that GOP tank so hard to the right that the left tracks are going to disintegrate.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
11:52 am
Rassmussen has the reputation, which of course will be disputed in spite of the facts by Democrats. of being the most acurate pollster
Not a factual statement.
From 2010
Polls conducted by the firm Rasmussen Reports — which released more than 100 surveys in the final three weeks of the campaign, including some commissioned under a subsidiary on behalf of Fox News — badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
11:54 am
The 105 polls released in Senate and gubernatorial races by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, missed the final margin between the candidates by 5.8 points, a considerably higher figure than that achieved by most other pollsters. Some 13 of its polls missed by 10 or more points, including one in the Hawaii Senate race that missed the final margin between the candidates by 40 points, the largest error ever recorded in a general election
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
11:54 am
Deficit hawks are narcissistic sadists who want tax cuts for themselves and suffering for everybody else.
td
October 9th, 2012
11:54 am
USMC
October 9th, 2012
11:50 am
How will Bob (Bagdad) Gibbs spin this one?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
11:55 am
The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating. Before the debate, Obama had a 51 – 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 – 45 lead. That’s a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October
But…but…but… that Obama lead was the result of skewed polls…. Obama never had a lead.. so obviously your drama queen portrayal deserves a feinting couch. Oh MY! Now that is just devastating.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
11:55 am
We know what the Democrat strategy of the desperate Democrat campaign wil be for next week. Jay has probably already been supplied his talking points by the DNC. The message will be Mitt Romney is a “war monger” and will get us involved in another war. They will lie about Romney’s response to the administration’s demonstrated incompetence in handling the Libyan murder of our embassy people. They will ignore their own lying shoot from the hip response in their attempt to cover up their own involvement and stupidity which directlylead to the deaths of our people. It will be fun to watch the press and electronic media provide cover for our over matched president.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:56 am
DIA — “Adam, JHM is the least of my worries. He’s just such an easy target.”
You haven’t hit me yet, son. (laughing)
“We call it “shooting fish in a barrel” down in south Jawja!”
Where I come from, we use a rod and reel to fish and we shoot deer. Maybe y’all never got the memo down in south Jawja.
“He accused Romney of not having military / foreign policy experience.”
Well, that’s quite true, but it’s not what I said. Doesn’t surprise me that either you can’t read or you can’t be honest. (laughing, pointing)
“Unfortunately, the only applicable experience O has is in the last four years. How’s that working out? (let me give you a clue…Libya)”
Which gives him at least four years’ more experience than Romney. Thanks for the assist!
USMC
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
“How will Bob (Bagdad) Gibbs spin this one?”–
He might do his Cookie Monster or Mr. Snuffalufakas routine!
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
mornin’ td: did you see the sampling of Romney’s flip-flops posted for you last night and up a page here? Thought about you as I posted…
twitchy.com???? Seriously? You looked bad quoting from Heritage.org, and you were in question quoting form breitbart.com…but twitchy? Dude, you gotta get past the Newt class in college and find some reputable research.
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
“But Captain, are you sure arranging the deck chairs is more important right now? What about the iceberg”?
In the 11 swing states, Mitt Romney earns 49% support to Obama’s 47%. One percent (1%) likes another candidate, and three percent (3%) are undecided.
This is the first time Romney has led the daily Swing State Survey since September 19. Until today, the president had led for 17 of the previous 19 days, and the candidates had been tied twice. This survey is based on findings from the previous seven days, with most of the responses now coming since Romney’s debate win last Wednesday night.
Forty-six percent (46%) of these Swing State voters are now “certain” they will vote for Romney and will not change their minds. Forty percent (40%) are certain they will vote for the president.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
“Morality” — “Mama – Thought Police? Don’t go there.”
You’re already gone there ahead of me. Otherwise, why bring up SLJ?
Mick
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
downinalbany
I guess your right because I forgot that america is the bestest, most righteous, never wrong, mistake free country in the world? Still didn’t read about any apology, your projection is an epic fail…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
11:58 am
The telling action will be if Romney loses. They are going to veer that GOP tank so hard to the right that the left tracks are going to disintegrate.
And it’s this very action that got them here.
I don’t get it.
In order to win the nomination, the candidate must adhere to a certain purity test. But in order to win the general election, that same candidate must now alter or even reverse an archived position opening him/herself up to accusations of flip-flopping.
If defeating Obama is the prime objective, why not just nominate a moderate in the first place?
Geez….
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:00 pm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html
Thats what your electoral vote will look like on election night.
The problem Cheesy Grits has is that he must win almost every toss up.
Obama just needs to pick off a couple.
td
October 9th, 2012
12:01 pm
RF
October 9th, 2012
11:57 am
Did you not see my response with the list of promises Obama made and has not carried out?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:02 pm
The Book of Mormon is a book of LDS scripture that takes place during the same time as the Bible and takes place on the American continent. It follows the stories of two tribes who descended from the family of Lehi. After Jesus’ resurrection LDS people believe he visited the peoples of the Americas.
I wonder if he visited Atlanta ?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:02 pm
Ahem — “And this from Andrew Sullivan, yes Andrew Sullivan:”
You mean *conservative blogger* Andrew Sullivan? That Andrew Sullivan?
Mick
October 9th, 2012
12:03 pm
td
The previous president invested his capital after winning a second term by going after social security, how did that work out? Nobobdy really asked him to do it anyway but he insisted, so every president makes promises and few are attainable…
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:03 pm
“Romney’s blind trust held stock in…”
Can you explain how blind trusts function and why they are utilized?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:03 pm
If Romney wins I give it 90 days until the bombs start dropping on brown or black people somewhere.
Especially since guys like Bolton will be whispering in his ear.
Then we will be told deficits dont matter because we are at war.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
“Did you not see my response with the list of promises Obama made and has not carried out?”
Has there EVER been a President who kept EVERY – EACH AND EVERY – campaign promise they made?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
BTW I see now that Georgia is going to tax internet sales.
Thanks Republicans.
Cant keep those guys out of my wallet.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
td — “Just as I predicted would happen if Obama was behind in the polls in October:”
Hey, td, someone jacked your handle yesterday over on Jimm Galloway’s blog and was posting some pretty racist stuff. Just thought you ought to know about it.
http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2012/10/06/if-you-believe-in-victor-hill-you-believe-someone-is-out-to-get-him/?cxntfid=blogs_political_insider_jim_galloway
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
68 year old Sandusky get a minimum 30 year sentence.
At his age, that’s a life sentence.
Michael
October 9th, 2012
12:05 pm
Romney wants support the insurgents in Syria. That means borrowing money from the Chinese,which is his test. Since many of the insurgents are supported by the Saudis that funded Al Qaeda, I don’t think that makes a lot of sense.
His robust foreign policy is the New American Century revisited. It didn’t work too well on its first iteration and won’t in a repeat.
The vice president debate could be interesting in that Biden can call out the lies and incosistencies. Also Biden is the only one of the four candidates to have a son that served in the middle east. But, that will not mean much to the chicken hawks advising Romney.
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:05 pm
“You mean *conservative blogger* Andrew Sullivan? That Andrew Sullivan?”
No. You see, there is no such blogger as Andrew Sullivan, the conservative blogger.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
12:05 pm
“The message will be Mitt Romney is a “war monger” and will get us involved in another war.”
No doubt, MR, but the DNC has another barrage waiting in the wings: Mormonism is an evil cult of Satan worshipers.
Jay has that blog written already.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:06 pm
Still didn’t read about any apology, your projection is an epic fail…
Poor td.
A permanent prevaricator and the self-inflicted victim of Rushspeak.
Not one single apology in the whole damn list and he says they are ALL apologies!
LOL…
Don't Forget
October 9th, 2012
12:07 pm
When it comes to reinventing yourself, Romney is making Al Gore look like an amateur. He’s taken just about every position possible on every major issue. Does anybody really know what he will do?
Jm
October 9th, 2012
12:08 pm
Welcome
You only caught the middle of the conversation
USMC
Next presidential debate will be nerve racking
But I’m guessing, as long as Romney performs well, then it will be a “win” in the sense for Romney because they won’t see the Obama campaign caricature of the man, but instead the guy he is
Obama will presumably do better than last time, but the Obama bubble has burst
bman
October 9th, 2012
12:08 pm
“Obama just needs to pick off a couple.”
I wod have to agree. Michigan is supposedly a toss-up. There’s no way Romney will win his home state.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
12:09 pm
If defeating Obama is the prime objective, why not just nominate a moderate in the first place?
Geez….
I guess facts and common sense are foreign languages to some people.
RF
October 9th, 2012
12:09 pm
Ahem: Romney was recorded saying that a “blind trust” is nothing but a front. The trustee, in this case a close associate of his, does nothing that isn’t in line with what is wanted by the investor. Read the article- it’s pretty clear Romney knew what he was investing in and that investment was sold once it threatened his campaign. Anything else?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
12:10 pm
Blind trusts made simple.
Okay, I realize the source may not be trusted and may be lying.
td
October 9th, 2012
12:11 pm
Mick
October 9th, 2012
12:03 pm
td
The previous president invested his capital after winning a second term by going after social security, how did that work out? Nobobdy really asked him to do it anyway but he insisted, so every president makes promises and few are attainable…
The problem is Obama stated if he did not cut the debt in half then he would not be re elected. This is like the no new taxes pledge GHWB made. We made Bush pay for that promise just like we should make Obama pay for his.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:11 pm
Ahem — “No. You see, there is no such blogger as Andrew Sullivan, the conservative blogger.”
Uh huh. Just like David Stockman (Reagan’s budget director) and Jim Webb (Reagan’s Secretary of the Navy). I see.
You go back and read Sullivan’s work from 2002-2004 and tell me he wasn’t beating the drum for the conservative case in the Middle East.
Don’t even try, Ahem. Sooner or later, y’all need to recognize that reinventing yourselves is tough when TV and the internet retain everything you ever say or write.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:12 pm
RF — “The trustee, in this case a close associate of his, does nothing that isn’t in line with what is wanted by the investor.”
I was under the impression that the trustee was actually Romney’s attorney.
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:14 pm
hiram
October 9th, 2012
8:27 am
@taxpayer
The Tea Party is a short lived aberration that was mobilized by Karl Rove, via Rush, Faux, et. al. It’s made up of the congregations of backwater churches, and monster truck driving, small time contractors, who never participated in the election process, before W. They are energized by sensationalism, which is generated by the robber barons’ blood money, and there’s a growing divide between the monster truckers, strutting, snake handling preachers and the robber barons, because the Tea Party’s lack of sophistication is beginning to cost them elections.
_____________________________________________
hiram, you just got a call from Ginormous Broad Brushes R Us. They said your new ginormous broad brush delivery was delayed. Seems they will not be able to use the triple wide flatbead like last time. They are going to bring it in by barge and then have it air lifted using 2 heavy lift flying cranes. As a side note, the manufacturer said your broadbrush has set a record since it can be seen from space.
Congrats
RF
October 9th, 2012
12:14 pm
td: saw your list, wasn’t anything new. Campaign promises are often unfulfilled. We could spend days overloading the blog with those. Your boy is doing 180s on policy issues, which brings into question whether he has a bonafide position on anything that isn’t dictated by polls or his wife and son. The only consistency in Romney’s plan is changing tax rates and policies to benefit the wealthy. How he’ll do that is yet another murky cesspool of ideology that noone can pin down with any clarity.
bman
October 9th, 2012
12:14 pm
Keep up .. .. Back on your BingCycle?
Thanks for that info. It’s sure to have a big impact on the election…
Bing on brother…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
12:14 pm
We made Bush pay for that promise just like we should make Obama pay for his.
Sure… and of course between the time that Bush made that promise and he passed his new tax, there was the greatest economic failure since the Great Depression, right? …..
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:16 pm
Conservative blogger, NOT. I could claim to be six foot-two and the perfect physical specimen, but then that would not reflect reality. We were also told Oblunda was the smartest guy around, but…
The core principles of Sullivan’s blog have been the style of conservatism he views as traditional. This includes fiscal conservatism, limited government, and classic libertarianism on social issues. Sullivan opposes government involvement with respect to sexual and consensual matters between adults, such as the use of marijuana and prostitution. Sullivan believes recognition of same-sex marriage is a civil-rights issue but is willing to promote it on a state-by-state legislative federalism basis, rather than trying to judicially impose the change.[22] Most of Sullivan’s disputes with other conservatives have been over social issues, such as these, and the handling of postwar Iraq.
RF
October 9th, 2012
12:16 pm
Joe: it is his attorney. I used “associate” incorrectly, but I guess it could be used considering the closeness of an attorney to his client.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
12:17 pm
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
10:03 am
Stating an opinion that the children of the President probably won’t serve in the military is picking on 2 little girls?
Me thinks Fred is stretching pretty far to find something to be indignant about.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No you just need some excuse for your despicable behavior. In no world do you pick on little girls. Well unless you are a Republican and the little girls in question are Obama’s. But thta’s ok because they aren’t really “little girls” are they? Naw, they aren’t really human, they are just a couple of pickaninnies right?
USMC
October 9th, 2012
12:17 pm
“Next presidential debate will be nerve racking”–JM
I predict that Obama will come out way too aggressive in the next debate, and Mitt Romney will act as the Matador waving the RED cape as Obama runs out of control right by him into the wall.
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:17 pm
Pizzaman
October 9th, 2012
7:30 am
I don’t care who won the debate, this Vietnam Vet will never vote for a draft dodger. I’ve never been involved in a poll so they don’t matter!
____________________________________
Sorry to hear that you didn’t vote for Bill Clinton. He was a pretty good President.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:18 pm
Ahem, I gotta ask: What is it that you’ve quoted in italics @ 12.16 that makes Sullivan “not conservative”?
BADA BING (imagine an umlaut above the i, I'm trying to class this place up a little)
October 9th, 2012
12:19 pm
There is no need to kill Big Bird or de-fund PBS. Just lay off Bert and Ernie until the economy improves.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
12:20 pm
With Romney pulling away with the election, DemocRats have already STOOPED to the low level of name-calling; Romney is a LIAR, etc. They will then attempt to STEAL the election through election fraud by using Illegal Aliens and Dead People as voters… Watch and see. DemocRats, and children, are so predictable.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:21 pm
Just lay off Bert and Ernie
Can’t we keep same-sex marriage out of this?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:21 pm
I predict that Obama will come out way too aggressive in the next debate, and Mitt Romney will act as the Matador waving the RED cape as Obama runs out of control right by him into the wall.
I predict Obama will first ask Romney which one of him showed up that night.
So he knows which Mitt Romney he is debating.
Then he will proceed accordingly.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:21 pm
“In fact, if I had my way, there would be a law that you had to marry outside your race.”- Normal
Normal,
And that’s what makes liberals so damn scary. Damn good thing we don’t have you as dictator for life. Nothing wrong with people wanting to marry whoever the hell they want to- whether their chosen spouse is in or outside of their own race. But when social engineering “I know what’s best for you” liberals like yourself come along with your hare brained social engineering ideas we should all just run for cover.
Are you God or something? I can’t imagine who in the hell you think you are that if you were in charge that you would enforce a law that everyone has to marry outside of their race because it fits your fancy social engineering notions of what’s best for mankind.
Ever hear of freedom of association? Freedom of choice? Freedom to love who you want to even if gasp! -that person should be of the same race? How about just freedom?
I hope you walk back your dictatorial social engineering notions of who should marry who because it suits your particular views. Its nothing short of astounding that a person would think that way.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
12:21 pm
How do Republicans equate 5 GROWN MEN the “youngest” being 32 the oldest being 42 with a little girl 14 and a “littler” girl 11? Matt, 41 has girls at or near the same age as the Presidents, why don’t you studly Republicans pick on them? use THEM as fodder for your hateful lied filled posts?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
12:22 pm
Just a thought, I think sometimes people get confused when they say the govt takes care of them. Does the govt have it’s own money or is it simply the taxpayer’s money? From now on, let’s say we(the taxpaying citizens) takes care of the folks who get welfare and social financial assistance. I believe we provide a welfare bridge to those folks who need help but I do not want to finance a permanent lifestyle forever.
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
12:22 pm
@Micheal. Interesting you pointed that out, and I wondered how many people caught it when Romney said it in his VMI speech – “We want this century to be an AMERICAN century…”
I was like, “bingo!” Neocon warmongering/PNAC all over again. People will get what they deserve. I know I’M not signing on for that BS.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
12:23 pm
I predict Obama will say to Mitt at some time during the debate: There’s no crying in Presidential Debates
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:23 pm
Talk about voter fraud. There is a lot more fraud in absentee balloting.
But Republicans dont care about that because absentee ballots tend to break their way.
I say again.
Thanks Republicans for taxing Internet sales.
Is there anything Republicans wont tax ?
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
12:23 pm
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
12:05 pm
Agreed. However a political party that is run by and indebted to atheist’s it is difficult for them to have any credibility when criticising any religion. Their biggest problem now is they don’t have the stomach for mending fences with the Catholic voters.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:24 pm
Its nothing short of astounding that I can make The Most Interesting Man in the World cry like a 2 year old.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:25 pm
Its nothing short of astounding that I can free dive to the bottom of the Marianas trench
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:26 pm
“In no world do you pick on little girls. Well unless you are a Republican and the little girls in question are Obama’s. But thta’s ok because they aren’t really “little girls” are they?”
Fred,
You may want to send that along to David Letterman, Bill Maher, and others. Making jokes about Palin’s younger daughter(12 years old I think) getting knocked up by a pro athlete falls in this category. But I don’t remember seeing your outrage on here about that.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:26 pm
Ever hear of freedom of association? Freedom of choice? Freedom to love who you want to even if gasp! -that person should be of the same race? How about just freedom?
So you support gay marriage ?
Or are you still a hypocrite ?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:26 pm
PBS haters are low brow idiots who love Trump & Trash TV.
And who make the Hollywood liberals filthy rich by standing in long lines for their movies.
Confused, conflicted and constipated – the GOP way of life…
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
I predict Obama will first ask Romney which one of him showed up that night.
Believe me, it isn’t which Romney showing up scares the Democrats as much as they are petrified at the real Obama showing up! LOL.
Mick
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
td
Not even remotley similar…I think obama can be excused for not cutting the deficit in half because of a world teetering on the brink his first year in office. One could argue that he was remarkable in stabilizing the world economy but you don’t want to see that…
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
@
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:18 pm
I though it was obvious. I suppose Sullivan could be characterized as having some conservative leanings, but some of his positions on social issues are less than conservative IMHO.
Brosephus™ - as Samuel L. Jackson
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
As a side note, the manufacturer said your broadbrush has set a record since it can be seen from space.
That is ONE BIG MUTHA*%&#$^ BRUSH!!!! I am getting tired of these MUTHA*%&#$^ broad brushed attacks on this MUTHA*%&#$^ blog.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:27 pm
kamchak,
Hilarious! Hell that’s even funnier than you making jokes about a puppy getting run over. Stay classy Kamspam.
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:28 pm
Enough of this. Now that Limbaugh is on WSB750 (95.5 FM) I can listen to the show without static. Yeah, Baby!
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:28 pm
Does the govt have it’s own money or is it simply the taxpayer’s money
Well, given that this stuff we call “money” doesn’t exist without the government, it sounds like a chicken/egg kinda deal to me.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:29 pm
You may want to send that along to David Letterman, Bill Maher, and others. Making jokes about Palin’s younger daughter(12 years old I think) getting knocked up by a pro athlete falls in this category. But I don’t remember seeing your outrage on here about that.
Difference is Republicans always put themselves up as the wholesome family values types who are pure as driven snow. For political gain.
Bristol herself signed an abstinence pledge. Something most conservatives support instead of sex ed and condoms.
Well how did that work out ?
They deserve to be mocked.
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:29 pm
indigo
October 9th, 2012
8:54 am
How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam? Did he, like Cheney, have “other priorities”?
_______________________________________________________________________
I think Mitt called Bill Clinton and asked how he did it.
I’m sure you had the same question about Bill’s Vietnam service, right?
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:30 pm
“One could argue that he was remarkable in stabilizing the world economy but you don’t want to see that…”
Obama was “remarkable” in “saving the world economy”???
Oh my God. I think I’m going to throw up some kamspam.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
12:30 pm
Fred,
You may want to send that along to David Letterman, Bill Maher, and others. Making jokes about Palin’s younger daughter(12 years old I think) getting knocked up by a pro athlete falls in this category. But I don’t remember seeing your outrage on here about that.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You didn’t? Why would that be Thulsa? Oh I know, BECAUSE I WASN’T HERE THEN ASSHAT.
What kind of three year old are you? Your moral character is based upon that of Bill Fcking Maher? REALLY? HE is your moral compass and shapes your honor and integrity?
Act like a man god damn it and speak up for that which is wrong not like a suck dog fanatical asshat who needs to attack little girls.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
12:31 pm
Which one of me should I be for Halloween this year. – Mitt
moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)
October 9th, 2012
12:31 pm
Yeah, since only republicans believe in family values, dems have a free ticket to act like a-holes.
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
12:31 pm
And about PBS: I like a lot of the programming found there although I do not agree with the goverment using tax dollars to fund the entity. It is not necessary.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:32 pm
Ahem — “Conservative blogger, NOT.”
Rejected.
“I could claim to be six foot-two and the perfect physical specimen, but then that would not reflect reality.”
And y’all claim that ‘the polls are biased,’ but that doesn’t reflect reality, either. So what gives?
“We were also told Oblunda was the smartest guy around, but…”
He beat y’all’s candidate like a rented mule. Looks like he’s smarter than at least some of the people on your side.
“The core principles of Sullivan’s blog have been the style of conservatism he views as traditional. This includes fiscal conservatism, limited government, and classic libertarianism on social issues. Sullivan opposes government involvement with respect to sexual and consensual matters between adults, such as the use of marijuana and prostitution.”
Well, what do you know? Sullivan’s in favor of ’smaller government.’ And I bet I could go out on Free Republic right now and easily bring you half a dozen posters from the last hour that are arguing in favor of the same things Sullivan is.
“Sullivan believes recognition of same-sex marriage is a civil-rights issue but is willing to promote it on a state-by-state legislative federalism basis, rather than trying to judicially impose the change.[22]”
Well, well, well. He’s not along among conservatives.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans
“Most of Sullivan’s disputes with other conservatives have been over social issues, such as these, and the handling of postwar Iraq.”
So he’s *not* conservative how, exactly?
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:32 pm
some of his positions on social issues are less than conservative IMHO.
social issueS, plural, or the Big One?
because if it’s all about gay marriage, he’s been advocating on behalf of it from a conservative perspective since 1989. If you’ve never seen this seminal piece, I urge you to have a look:
http://sullivanarchives.theatlantic.com/homosexuality.php
“[G]ay marriage is not a radical step. It avoids the mess of domestic partnership; it is humane; it is conservative in the best sense of the word. It’s also about relationships. Given that gay relationships will always exist, what possible social goal is advanced by framing the law to encourage those relationships to be unfaithful, undeveloped, and insecure?”
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:33 pm
Remember the comeback
kid? How did that work for
Clinton? Obama is the
POTUS and yet he is the
underdog getting beat up
with lies by the rich kid.
awesome.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
12:33 pm
Thank God, Romney in his VMI speech stated what most Americans want and that is for America to return to it’s previous stature as the worlds greatest economy with all of the benefits attached thereon to be enjoyed by our citizens. This is in stark contrast to the last three years and nine months where our government’s goal was to reduce our nation to third world economic wealth.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:34 pm
I think Mitt called Bill Clinton and asked how he did it.
Mitt hid behind his religion. Clinton hid behind his books and school.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:34 pm
“They deserve to be mocked.”- pass the cheesey grits
kampspam
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
12:35 pm
Certainly anyone paying attention would know that Romney is “moderate” and Obama is somewhere to the left of there. That is nothing new. The only poll I am interested in is after the POLLS close on voting day. Need to keep an eye on those slicksters down in south Florida . chad counting again? How many will be able to stay awake during Jumpin’ Joe’s dehbate? Will a gallon of 5 Hour Energy and a case of No Doz be enough? Does it to come to anyone’s surprise that Bill Clinton was PAYED to be in the Dem adds supporting Obama?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:35 pm
Thank God, Romney in his VMI speech stated what most Americans want and that is for America to return to it’s previous stature as the worlds greatest economy with all of the benefits attached thereon to be enjoyed by our citizens.
Yes. And if we just go back to the Republican policies of Bush we will surely be there in no time.
You are an idiot.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:36 pm
“Mitt hid behind his religion. Clinton hid behind his books and school.”
Clinton also managed to hide behind black churches whenever he got in trouble. I guess that’s what you do as the nation’s first black president.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:36 pm
Its nothing short of astounding that I can swim naked from Alaska to Russia across the Bering Sea.
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
8:56 am
How did Bill miss out on serving in Vietnam?
Bill had to serve in England. He was there to save the English from the perils of tea consumption. After all, there’s nothing worse than a English soldier hopped up on tea being sent off to war with a loaded gun.
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I’m sure that was your next Vietnam draft dodging snipe.
I’m sure you were going to rip on Bill like you did Mitt.
Although, Bill spent his time on self serving endevours. Mitt was in service to his religion.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
Righty — “Thank God, Romney in his VMI speech stated what most Americans want and that is for America to return to it’s previous stature as the worlds greatest economy with all of the benefits attached thereon to be enjoyed by our citizens.”
And we can accomplish that best by invading and colonizing the planet Kolob, thereby taking its agricultural and mineral wealth for ourselves.
BIG BUDGET BOOST FOR NASA, BABY! THOSE SPACE-COLONIZING SHIPS DON’T COME CHEAP!
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
Of course PBS is not necessary.
In an ocean of filth, pollution, sleaze and huge leeches, who needs even one island of decency and excellence nonpareil?
Besides it sucks for our anti-USA Uncle Sam haters to fully see that the free market “does everything worse” than government.
Stay stupid, my fiends.
LOL!
moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
So Obama is running on Big Bird and Honey Boo Boo now?
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:37 pm
“You are an idiot.”
Sheriff Bookman don’t take kindly to name calling.
tick, tick, tick…
moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)
October 9th, 2012
12:38 pm
Views can make donations to PBS at any time.
moonbat betty (2 panties one wad)
October 9th, 2012
12:38 pm
viewers
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:38 pm
Morality — “Need to keep an eye on those slicksters down in south Florida . chad counting again?”
Didn’t they completely redesign the ballots down there after the 2000 election?
I can’t imagine they kept on with that kind of ballots for long after that.
Any of our Florida posters able to speak to that point?
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:38 pm
If nothing else comes from
the financial crisis and this
election, I hope it debunks
polls and financial rating
companies both of which
just make up crap and sell
it to idiots.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:39 pm
moonbat betty,
Terry Tate was hilarious. Been a long time since I’ve seen that.
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
12:40 pm
“Terry Tate was hilarious. Been a long time since I’ve seen that.”
Every office needs a Terry Tate.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:40 pm
Doom — “Sheriff Bookman don’t take kindly to name calling. ”
Indeed.
Cheesy, you should cool it. Assuming Sheriff Jay doesn’t have the hanging rope ready to go already.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:41 pm
Its nothing short of astounding the way that women watch me in the gym when I’m clad in my speedos and wife-beater.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:41 pm
…with all of the benefits attached thereon to be enjoyed by our citizens.
Man, that Romney KoolAid must be yummy!
MR “I hide money overseas and ship your jobs there” Romney, BIG time helps screw over working class American families and our working class cons revere him as their champion anyway!
What a crazy collection of guppies, huh?
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
12:41 pm
And Kamchak makes jokes about dogs getting run over?
Terry Tate would love to set him straight.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
12:42 pm
Cheesy Grits – BTW I see now that Georgia is going to tax internet sales.
Thanks Republicans.
What, You don’t want to pay your fair share?
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
12:43 pm
As predicted by those stupid Republicans who warned Obamacare would result in more unemploymnet, Darden Resturants, owners of Olive Garden, Red Lobster, and Long Horn Resturants annouced it is experimenting with cutting employee housrs. White Castle is also trying to figure out the law.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-darden-part-time-workers-20121007,0,1505128.story
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
12:43 pm
Jamvet -_Nice comment about PBS? But, I like what Romney said “any program that is not absolutely necessary that is financed by money loaned to us by China, will be eliminated”! Good start in really eliminating wasteful programs.
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
12:41 pm
And Kamchak makes jokes
about dogs getting run
over?
Terry Tate would love to
set him straight.
………….
Kamchak isn’t straight?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
“They deserve to be mocked.”- pass the cheesey grits
kampspam
Hey you dont want your kids mocked.
Don’t put them in your ads and use them for political gain.
If you do they are fair game.
So are you for gay marriage or not ?
You said earlier government should stay out of it and people should be allowed to be with whomever they choose.
I notice you didn’t answer.
Thats the problem with you idiots. You hate government intrusion into peoples lives until it fits your agenda.
Then its perfectly fine.
Hypocrites one and all.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
Brain dead zombies for Obama ……….. could the debate have brought them a little life? Probably not as they were already BRAIN dead. Jumpin’ Joe is their kind of man….. lot’s in common in the brain dead department.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
I see now that Georgia is going to tax internet sales.
Avoid paying internet sales tax by shopping locally.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:44 pm
Make the welfare kings on TV and radio pay rent to us.
Those airwaves belong to we the people. Sadly, Uncle Sam lets these leeches use them for nothing…
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
Terry Tate would love to set him straight.
It’s not up to the likes of Terry Tate to get me straight.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
“Sheriff Bookman don’t take kindly to name calling.”–Thulsa Doom
HAH! I finally am able to prove Thulsa Doom wrong!
You are incorrect, sir. Jay Bookman will let his Leftwing Sock puppets, stands and Kammy, attack and say and get away with whatever they want.
It’s ONLY when Conservatives speak out and attack back does Jay Bookman step in and take action.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:45 pm
What, You don’t want to pay your fair share?
I’m already paying it. Hell I pay twice the tax rate Mitt Romney does.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
12:46 pm
Sesame Street is a $200 million franchise. They need my tax dollars? No way.
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
12:46 pm
Terry Tate eats Cheesy Grits for breakfast. WOOOAAAW!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:46 pm
USMC — “You are incorrect, sir. Jay Bookman will let his Leftwing Sock puppets, stands and Kammy, attack and say and get away with whatever they want.”
Did not Aquagirl receive a suspension not long ago?
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
12:47 pm
Also, if you are not an ally of ours, I believe the foreign aid should be cut. Every little bit helps, believe me, it will eventually add up. If Mexico refuses to secure border on their side, I would not give them one red cent!!
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:47 pm
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
go navy- Mitt Romney’s 5 boys just, “say NO to the U.S. Armed Forces”.
What’s the over/under on the obama girl’s Naval future?
_____________________________________________
As did Chelsea Clinton, Al Gore’s 4 children, Jimmy Carters 4 children.
Your point?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:48 pm
Clinton also managed to hide behind black churches whenever he got in trouble. I guess that’s what you do as the nation’s first black president.
What does that have to do with Vietnam ?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:48 pm
Avoid paying internet sales tax by shopping locally.
And I do that as much as I can.
But it is extremely annoying to go out and try to find a specific item locally only to be told, “we don’t have that in stock, but we can order it for you.”
Hell, I can order it myself from Amazon and have it delivered directly to my home and I don’t have to waste time and gasoline to drive back to the retailer.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
12:48 pm
Oh the horror… oh the victims of the Bookman. You just don’t know the imaginary suffering of them conned posters. Devastating.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
12:49 pm
“Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced.”
I am still very puzzled by the amount of faith liberals (and not a few conservatives) place in political polls. As I have been arguing, the difficulty of polling accurately has increased dramatically and steadily over the last decade or so. The majority of people now do not use traditional land lines, but only cell phones. We have no idea how many people use VoIP at home and those that do typically have unknown phone numbers (because the providers don’t apparently publish them). Pollsters by law cannot use autodialers when calling cell phones, making polling a much more expensive enterprise. And I have read in several places that less than 1 in 10 people are willing to participate in polls, making the sample pool very hard to work with (it was close to 40% a couple of decades ago and ideally should be 100%).
Added to this is the reality that, if pollsters really wanted to “skew” polls (say to please the media organizations paying them), they have plenty of plausible deniability built into the commonly asserted fact that statistically (even a series of them) polls can be “off” by a good amount. And this is perhaps borne out historically when you look at the polling results weeks and months before an election and compare them with the final pre-election polls (which are often very close to being correct) – how do so many pollsters “get it right” with their final polls but not nearly so right (sometimes wildly off) in the preceding ones? This is one thing I think should really be researched. If anyone knows of a study, please let me know. Otherwise, I will have to do it on my own in my spare time.
Anyway, here is what one commentator is saying today:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_day_polling_died_avC02WOQrbvvohrTLZwgAI
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:49 pm
Some folks should self
suspend and save Jay the
trouble. We know who we
are.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
12:50 pm
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:21 pm
Thulsa,
All I’m saying is that the only way racism will stop is if we are all one color, whatever that color would be. God must have thought we would be more tolerant and understanding about skin color…
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
12:50 pm
Obama was “remarkable” in “saving the world economy”???
The IMF might disagree….who said this crisis is over anyway?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:50 pm
Jay Bookman will let his Leftwing Sock puppets, stands and Kammy, attack and say and get away with whatever they want.
(shrug)
Think what you will, but my posts get pulled down just the same as everyone else’s.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
12:50 pm
I remember David Plouffe was worried about our President’s first debate with Hillary because he said our President sux at debate. David was right and he lost the first debate.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:50 pm
But, I like what Romney said “any program that is not absolutely necessary that is financed by money loaned to us by China, will be eliminated”
And you believe that inveterate liar???? The guy who is a corporation masquerading as a human being running for president????
Wow.
Talk about penny wise and pound moronic…
The reason you neocons want to eliminate PBS has nothing to do with the miniscule amount of money involved.
It has everything to do with the fact that you are addicted to stupid. And PBS makes your corporate stupidvision look really, really, really bad.
And in our new quasi-fascist nation of Corporations Uber Alles, you cannot have that…
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
12:52 pm
Go Navy
October 9th, 2012
9:16 am
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
9:11 am
what are you saying? The American people can sacrifice “their sons” but Mitt can’t? If Obama had 5 boys and NONE had ever served including him, do yo think that he would be ready to start another war? Go figure.
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Did you say that about Bill, Al Gore, Jimmy Carter?
Also, stop being sexist. Women can and have served in our armed forces for years.
Do you not think they should?
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:53 pm
Kamchak
Total agreement. Cabinets
not in stock at Home Depot
or Lowes, 5 weeks estimated
delivery time. I could order
from AliBaba myself.
Mighty Righty
October 9th, 2012
12:53 pm
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:41 pm
You are ignoring the tens of thousands of jobs sent over seas by the Obama administration during the last three plus years including but not limited to Green Jobs which were directly financed by Obama’s administration. GE alone shipped 20,000 to China. The new $20.00 light bulbs now required by this out of control administration is just one of many examples of the pot calling the lying Democrats propoganda. The Romney jobs shipped over seas are alledged while the Obama jobs are factualy and documented.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
12:53 pm
Kamchak
True. I try to do as much business locally as I can. I feel better about circulating money locally with the small guys as opposed to the big chains.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
I see that the king of kamspam had more truly thought provoking commentary @ 12:36- something about the Bering sea.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
Funny, how the cons don’t want to cut big oil welfare of billions but want to cut Big Bird of thousands.
They suk at math.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
Towncrier — “how do so many pollsters “get it right” with their final polls but not nearly so right (sometimes wildly off) in the preceding ones?”
Could you be a bit more specific, please?
1) How do pollsters get it right in their final poll?
2) Why aren’t pollsters’ earlier results closer to the final result?
3) How can pollsters be so far off to start with, yet zero in fairly accurately on the final result once Election Day rolls around?
Are those the questions you’re asking?
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
It’s ONLY when Conservatives speak out and attack back does Jay Bookman step in and take action.
I can speak from first hand experience that this is not even remotely true.
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
When is round 2 of The Stormin’ Mormon vs. The Professor?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:54 pm
It has everything to do with the fact that you are addicted to stupid. And PBS makes your corporate stupidvision look really, really, really bad.
South Park did a good take off on this.
Can you believe Honey Boo Boo is on a channel called ” The Learning Channel ”
I would venture a guess 90 percent of Honey Boo Boo watchers are Southern Republicans.
There is a reason why the lower the states education level is, the more likely its a red state.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
12:55 pm
So are you for “gay” marriage? NOT. Is that clear enough for you? PBS was entering the cess pool with some of their programing by having a series on the “gay” life style showing “bath houses”, drug filled orgies, full frontal nudity etc, etc, rather graphically during prime time when children would be watching TV but public outrage and the threat to cut off their funding put PBS back on course.
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:55 pm
getalife
The President does not lie
bluster or argue thus not
a good debater.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:55 pm
I see that the king of kamspam had more truly thought provoking commentary @ 12:36- something about the Bering sea.
Do you support gay marriage Thulsa ?
Or is it just freedom for some ?
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
12:55 pm
Cheesy – I’m already paying it. Hell I pay twice the tax rate Mitt Romney does.
really…you’re paying 27% to 41%….BS
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
12:55 pm
I’m sure that was your next Vietnam draft dodging snipe.
I’m sure you were going to rip on Bill like you did Mitt.
Although, Bill spent his time on self serving endevours. Mitt was in service to his religion.
I’m sure you’re an Independent, That Black Guy.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
12:56 pm
Gomer.
For the fifty seventh time, quit whining like a teenage girl.
Or do like Del, cut and run to Kyle’s…
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
12:56 pm
Tom: “From now on, let’s say we(the taxpaying citizens) takes care of the folks who get welfare and social financial assistance. ”
You’re leaving out something huge here, and maybe that’s because you’d prefer not to look at it.
A major recipient of “government assistance” are the banks.
So are you equally upset that the banks are receiving “government assistance” as low-interest loans to boost their profits as when the bulk of the workers and the less privileged receive it in the form of public services and investments (education, etc.)?
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:56 pm
So are you for “gay” marriage? NOT. Is that clear enough for you? PBS was entering the cess pool with some of their programing by having a series on the “gay” life style showing “bath houses”, drug filled orgies, full frontal nudity etc, etc, rather graphically during prime time when children would be watching TV but public outrage and the threat to cut off their funding put PBS back on course.
And there you have it.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
When did Mitt ever pay 20.5% federal taxes. He’s never admitted that. Release those tax returns, Mitt.
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
godless heathen
Stormin Mormon, Mitt
should push that.
Astounding Fact
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
Obama is a liar.
Pass the Cheesy Grits Please
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
really…you’re paying 27% to 41%….BS
Umm yes I do.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
“But, I like what Romney said “any program that is not absolutely necessary that is financed by money loaned to us by China, will be eliminated””
I liked that too, Jammie.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
12:04 pm
“68 year old Sandusky get a minimum 30 year sentence.
At his age, that’s a life sentence.”
Really? No kidding genius. Geez.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
Righty — “The new $20.00 light bulbs now required by this out of control administration is just one of many examples of the pot calling the lying Democrats propoganda.”
Dude, I don’t know where you’re shopping for bulbs, but CFLs are WAY cheaper than that. You can get a pretty good new-generation LED bulb for about $20 or so, but those aren’t required.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
Well I see the old Doom has returned. SO much for that turning a new leaf.
I see that the king of kamspam had more truly thought provoking commentary @ 12:36- something about the Bering sea.
Doomchumming for attention
getalife
October 9th, 2012
1:00 pm
frog,
I don’t expect must change from the second debate because it is a town hall debate.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:01 pm
“I can speak from first hand experience that this is not even remotely true.”
Agreed. Jay allows a whole lotta “free” speech here.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
1:02 pm
doomy.
Did you think he should walk?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:03 pm
“Morality” — “PBS was entering the cess pool with some of their programing by having a series on the “gay” life style showing “bath houses”, drug filled orgies, full frontal nudity etc”
You’ve clearly never been to a singles bar.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
1:03 pm
Taxpayer…I rounded up..1999 to 2009 Mitt averaged 20.2%
Cheesy…If you really pay that rate, you should probably stop preparing your own taxes
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
“Doomchumming”
That sounds like something a person should do in the privacy of their own home and behind closed doors.
Just sayin’
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
Con Poll 2012:
Which Mitt Romney is the real Mitt Romney?
A) The extremely conservative Mitt Romney
B) The former Governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney
C) The left of Obama Mitt Romney
D) The Gekko Mitt Romney
E) A, B, C and D
F) The hidden camera Mitt Romney
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
1:05 pm
Erwin,
You got a link to Mitt’s returns from 1999 to 2009.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:05 pm
Release those tax returns, Mitt.
Release those college transcripts, Mr. President!
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:06 pm
Righty — “The new $20.00 light bulbs now required by this out of control administration is just one of many examples of the pot calling the lying Democrats propoganda.”
Dude, I don’t know where you’re shopping for bulbs, but CFLs are WAY cheaper than that. You can get a pretty good new-generation LED bulb for about $20 or so, but those aren’t required.
$20 is $20, right?
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
Astounding Fact
October 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
Obama is a liar.
…………..
Depends on what the
definition of ‘is’ is.
Mick
October 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
doom
Americans have short memories, if you go back a short four years ago, the economy of the US and the world looked pretty bleak. Mccain inspired zero confidence and his vp pick was a disaster. President obama made some tough decisions at the time especially the auto bailout which was needed, even the previous president agreed. The housing debacle is still ongoing and will need another 3 or 4 years before inventory is bought up. Then and only then will construction start to see some life in the home building sector. Also, the trending is positive and things seem to be going in the right direction regardless of a hostile, do nothing house of representatives…
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
TaxPayer – No
does that make it false?
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
1:04 pm
I will go with E. They really need to work with his multiple personalities. Maybe a good therapist will work .
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:08 pm
JamVet: The O administration outsourced the security in Libya to a British company. How’d that work out?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:08 pm
DownInAlbany — “$20 is $20, right?”
Sure, but you can get a box of CFLs for much less than $20.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:08 pm
“PBS was entering the cess pool with some of their programing by having a series on the “gay” life…”
I cannot speak to the timing of their programming (since I am unaware of it), but some of their documentaries on gays (such as “The Stonewall Uprising”) have been (perhaps unintentionally) somewhat unflattering. For example, from watching “The Stonewall Uprising” I learned that gays in NYC in the sixties would meet by the hordes and pack into unclean meat trucks for sex in complete darkness. That is really disturbing – even just from a health/medical standpoint.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
1:11 pm
ohfercryinoutloud–you’re playing the Light Bulb Freedom card now?
(in case anyone wondered–this poutrage is actually aimed at guidelines from legislation signed into law by that business-hatin’ Commie George W. Bush, in 2007.)
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:11 pm
Its pretty sad that a man has to go against everything he has campaigned on just to win a debate.
And in the foreign policy debate , with the exception of Natenyhu, i guess he will call every prime minister , Mr. Leader.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:11 pm
Looks like Felix Baumgartner is go for his high-altitude skydive.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:11 pm
De-funding PBS is merely an example of cutting waste in the federal budget (oh yeah, there is no federal budget…at least not in the last 3+ years). Big Bird is part of the 1%…why the lovefest? I thought you people hated the 1^%?
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:14 pm
“Are those the questions you’re asking?”
The question I asked is really just an echo of the one asked here:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/10/01/Media-Respond-to-Being-Challenged-on-Poll-Data
I had never considered this question before, but the author does (I think) present a reason to not give much credence to perhaps any polls save the final ones.
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
1:15 pm
I demand to see Big Bird’s birth certificate, tax returns and college transcripts!
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:15 pm
De-funding PBS is merely an example of cutting waste in the federal budget
So is funding subsidies to oil companies. Funny, you didnt hear Mr. Romney say that.
4 billion dollars a year is a big example of cutting waste. But you will not hear that from Mr. Romney.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
1:16 pm
Mama – not since I got married have I been to a singles bar but did go to Hooters to get some wings. Greasy but the service was good. Years ago in Atlanta I went to some strip clubs with a couple of buddies.
Can’t say much for their appearance….. much better looking women at the clubs in Columbus, near Ft.Benning. Over on “Victory Dive”.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:16 pm
Release those college transcripts, Mr. President!
Birthers.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:17 pm
larry: I agree with your comment re: oil companies, but, how do you know Romney will not address the issue? On the other hand, has Obama?
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:17 pm
fred- And here we have ANOTHER BIG MAN who feels the need to pick on not only a 14 year old little girl, but this time an 11 year old little girl as well. What a studly man
I guess it takes to real man to avoid answering a question…
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:17 pm
“It’s not up to the likes of Terry Tate to get me straight.”-Kamspam
No need for Mr. Tate when Doomy straightens him out quite well. Who else can call out his pearl of wisdom that a 30 year sentence for a 68 year old man means a life sentence? That one was hilarious. And I do mean Fun-knee!
Ahem
October 9th, 2012
1:18 pm
New book shows U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation
New book shows U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation
Washington Times
The Wall Street Journal’s Stephen Moore has just come out with a new book titled Who’s the Fairest of Them All?: The Truth about Opportunity, Taxes, and Wealth in America and he reveals some interesting information about how much the top ten percent of income earners in the United States pay in federal income taxes as opposed to any other industrialized nation in the world.
According to Moore, these earners pay almost half (45 percent) of the country’s total taxes. This conclusion flies in the face of the liberal concept that top earners in the U.S. are not paying their “fair share” in taxes. Moore explains:
“The United States is actually more dependent on rich people to pay taxes than even many of the more socialized economies of Europe. According to the Tax Foundation, the United States gets 45 percent of its total taxes from the top 10 percent of tax filers, whereas the international average in industrialized nations is 32 percent. America’s rich carry a larger share of the tax burden than do the rich in Belgium (25 percent), Germany (31 percent), France (28 percent), and even Sweden (27 percent).”
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:18 pm
“White Castle is also trying to figure out the law.”
They need to read it to see what is in it.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:18 pm
I demand to see Big Bird’s birth certificate, tax returns and college transcripts!
Birders.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:18 pm
Kamchak: Romney has followed the letter of the law…just like Obama. Just making a point. You know, the old goose/gander…
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
1:18 pm
larry,
Apparently DowninAlbany loves helping pick up the tab for those subsidies handouts, bailouts, giveaways and welfare to the insanely rich guys/corporate personhoods.
Corporations Uber Alles.
(And the bigger the more uber…)
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
1:19 pm
Supposed to be a live feed of the high altitude skydive here, but I’m not seeing much just yet:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/oct/09/felix-baumgartner-sky-jump-live
Pray to the Supreme Being of your choice for Mr. Baumgartner’s safe return to Earth.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
1:19 pm
“First lady Michelle Obama says that she had no idea of the breadth of sacrifices made by members of the military and their families before entering the White House. “My connection to military life was pretty tangential,” she said in an interview with ABC News set to air Tuesday.”
Just like hubby.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:19 pm
The Moonie Times?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:20 pm
JamVet: Don’t try to speak for me, much less think for me. You’re putting words in my mouth. Again, name-calling…that’s all ‘ya got!
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
1:21 pm
PBS – I have no problem with what they are showing now for the most part. The fact is that they could get by without gub’ment funding but if someone wants to give you something why turn it down? There CEO get’s paid something like $300,000 a year. Not exactly starving.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:21 pm
Just
making a pointbeing a birther.DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:21 pm
Ahem: Now you’ve gone and done it! You’re gonna confuse these people with something they are allergic to…the TRUTH!
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
1:21 pm
these earners pay almost half (45 percent) of the country’s total taxes
This re-framing of the argument away from where the income and wealth is being concentrated in the first place, is most unconvincing.
But keep trying, maybe someone is stupid enough to buy into it. I’m sure our corporate media are happy to play along.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:21 pm
“So is funding subsidies to oil companies. Funny, you didnt hear Mr. Romney say that.”- Larry
You misunderstand this. In the case of oil companies the govt is not “funding” or sending them money. They are simply confiscating less of that companies earnings. And that standard depreciation writeoff that the oil companies use is one that various other companies in the U.S. also use and have been using for around a hundred years as Mitt pointed out.
In the case of PBS the govt is actually funding them and sending them taxpayer money. Not the same thing.
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:22 pm
Jam: if corporations are people as Mitt 2.0 asserted, and they receive subsidies from the government, doesn’t that make them part of the 47% who rely on the government and refuse to take care of themselves? Perhaps Mittens will “explain” that to us….
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
1:22 pm
goose/gander????
Wow.
One is highly valuable and counteracts the flood of filth directed at our children and at us.
The other – welfare for the wealthy/trickle down – is insanely misguided and counterproductive.
Oh yeah and one is a two seat Cessna and the other is a fleet of Airbus A380s…
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:23 pm
Actually, the PBS CEO makes in excess of $600,000. Where’s the outrage, Kamchak? Oh yeah, there is none…they’re on your side!
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
1:23 pm
BYE BYE – LATER
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:26 pm
Actually, the PBS CEO makes in excess of $600,000. Where’s the outrage, Kamchak?
You seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that I am someone else, sport.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
1:27 pm
Doomgangnumdance…. one of these things is not like the other one, even if they are the same.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
1:27 pm
the PBS CEO makes in excess of $600,000
They day I hear conservatives argue that publicly funded college football coaches should work for free is the day I’ll fret about a broadcast network president making what sounds like a fairly low CEO’s salary.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:28 pm
Towncrier — “I had never considered this question before, but the author does (I think) present a reason to not give much credence to perhaps any polls save the final ones.”
Many pollsters say — and I know that Nate Silver has explained many times — that a given poll is a ’snapshot in time.’ They’re not meant to be reflective of what will happen at a certain point in the future; they’re meant to be reflective of what the larger survey population thinks *at that moment.* Of course they will move and change over time — that’s clearly reflective of the candidates’ efforts to get elected or re-elected. When Romney performs well in a debate, of course the numbers will start changing to reflect that.
I think that some observers (not necessarily you, but some of our posters IMO) will rely on a *single* poll and claim that it says that their chosen candidate *will* win on Election Day. That’s ridiculous; poll results don’t represent themselves as being indicative of that. But if you take a scatterplot of poll results, arranged by time, then you can start to see where the center of mass is and where it moves. That center of mass for a given date is, I believe (and pollsters generally do, too) roughly reflective of where the election results would have been had the election been held on that date.
It’s true that no poll means as much as the one held on Election Day, but you can bet that the candidates and their staffs are paying attention to the polls. If polling shows that a candidate is weak in a juicy swing state like Ohio or Pennsylvania (one with lots of EVs involved), then that information can help the campaign made wise choices about where to put money (ad buys) and where to schedule appearances by the candidate.
This is a really neat game that I highly recommend; as you play, you can see the effects that your choices as a candidate have on the individual states.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Machine
My wife’s been looking for the 2012 version of the game.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:29 pm
Nope, no mistake there, I just thought you might have something to say…you being anti-one percenter and all! “sport” there you go with the name-calling, again. That’s all ‘ya got ain’t it!
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:29 pm
krystal’sballs- I guess the clowns haven’t noticed that Malia is actually quite the athlete, and a bit (no a LOT) of a tomboy. She is very much in the mold of a Lalah Ali, and would shine at any U.S. Military Academy. Then again, I guess you have to have an “eye” for such things.
I guess fred missed your pedofile comment. Yes, she could potentially go to a service academy and might actually excel there. I’l put the odds of that happening around.00000000001%.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
1:30 pm
DOOM 1:21 – correct. The conservative wins that debate issue.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
1:31 pm
…you being anti-one percenter and all!
Again — you seem to be laboring under the misapprehension that you are speaking to someone else, sport.
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:31 pm
“My connection to military life was pretty tangential,” she said in an interview with ABC News set to air Tuesday.”
Sooooo, your point? Mittens and Ann are hardly more “connected” to that life. Who in their family has served in the military? Anyone?? Oh that ’s right, none of them have. Yeah, they know all about that military sacrifice, what with hiring architects to redesign the beach house and put in that car elevator. I’m sure Ann drives around in one of her several Cadillacs just a frettin’ over those military wives.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:31 pm
stands for decibels: defend and deflect, defend and deflect. “Oh, look, your _____ is worse than mine!”
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:32 pm
keep up,
Nope. Not the same. Big difference between the govt just taking less of your earnings as opposed to the govt writing you a check because you can’t sustain yourself to begin with.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
1:32 pm
Countdown is starting, if you’re interested in live coverage…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/oct/09/felix-baumgartner-sky-jump-live
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
Ahem — “New book shows U.S. top earners pay larger share of taxes than any other industrialized nation”
Ever occur to you that maybe that’s why our economy is so much more powerful than any other?
Besides, I thought that we didn’t care how dirty, garlic-nibbling furriners ran their countries.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
Who in their family has served in the military? Anyone?? Oh that ’s right, none of them have.
No, but, they have held a job, unlike the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania…unless you want to count “community-organizer.”
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:34 pm
“They day I hear conservatives argue that publicly funded college football coaches should work for free is the day I’ll fret about a broadcast network president making what sounds like a fairly low CEO’s salary.”
Those college coaches get millions, plus all kinds of donated perks if they win. Kinda makes that PBS CEO job seem like chump change, doesn’t it?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
1:34 pm
RF, the far right wing GOP does not want an empowered, informed citizenry. Look at hwo they want to pass laws so that “certain groups of people” cannot even vote.
The new age fascists LOVE this new age American Corporatocracy!
It has replaced even Jesus as their new savior/religion.
Look at Abomb for gawdssakes. All that guy does is whine over how the people who took advantage of the insane fiscal breaks that they alone get and that were written into law by their equally monied cronies, actually have to pay some of it back!
These fools want corporations to pay no taxes at all! Just allow them to take and take and take some more and give nothing back. And let the employees pick up an always growing share of the tab.
Ultimately that is what they want for themselves. Pay nothing for living in the greatest country on earth. (Though that last part is not something the Uncle Sam haters like to admit anymore.)
Because he/the sovereign people get in the way of that mission. And labor unions stand actually benefit working class families and have the temerity up to the Titans of malfeasance and Criminal Negligence.
That is not tolerated. And just like Hitler did, their aim is to crush them and eventually outlaw them.
Corporations Uber Alles.
(People, especially the non-monied, come second.)
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:34 pm
fred- is that news to you? Do you stand idly by while grown men abuse little girls? You are now here……..
How did we get to obama’s foreign policy?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:34 pm
Ever occur to you that maybe that’s why our economy is so much more powerful than any other?
Soooo, why do you support Obama and his push to change our economy?
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:35 pm
Oil companies recieve tax subsidies………… which is an indirect payment from the government which needs to be eliminated. Period.
The aggregate values of these subsidies to the U.S. oil industry is approximately $5 billion a year, almost as much as the industry pays in federal income tax ($5.7 billion). The industry’s total profits exceed $30 billion, so it would not be facing a crushing burden if the subsidies were to be eliminated; the Obama Administration proposes to eliminate only $2 billion of the subsidies.
Doggone/GA
October 9th, 2012
1:37 pm
“Soooo, why do you support Obama and his push to change our economy?”
When you have to lie to make your point…you have no point
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
Thulsa: You forget the liberal mantra: Taking less = giving; giving less = taking.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
Nope. Not the same. Big difference between the govt just taking less of your earnings as opposed to the govt writing you a check because you can’t sustain yourself to begin with.
Difference without a distinction. Also false. Oil can’t sustain itself without subsidies? But hey, even Mr. Rogers can comprehend these things.
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
Actually, Joe Biden’s son serves in the military and has served time in Iraq. And i guess being a professor isnt a real job? Well, at least he wasnt a leverage buyout expert.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
I find the wild point swing after one debate a little hard to believe.
I know cnn and other corporate media try to help the losing candidate out because they want to keep it close to get more ad money.
This is why I don’t pay much attention to polls until the day before the election when they correct for credibility.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
DownInAlbany — “Soooo, why do you support Obama and his push to change our economy?”
And, as expected, the point goes WHOOOOOOSHing right over your head.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
Doggone/GA: ?
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:39 pm
Albany, Albany, Albany: tsk, tsk. Here’s a list of jobs held by Obama:
Summer in college on a construction job
Summer associate at a Chicago law firm
one at a gift shop in Hawaii after his first year of college;
working a deli counter, also in Hawaii;
working for company that processed health records of police or firefighters
telemarketer selling subscriptions to the NY Times
Then, of course, he was an attorney and a state senator several times before being elected to the US Senate.
How many jobs did Mittens have in college?
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:40 pm
“And just like Hitler did, their aim is to crush them and eventually outlaw them.”
I wondered how long it would take for another inane comparison to Hilter to be made. Thanks for the laughs, JV.
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:40 pm
adam- Let me explain, once and for all, what made people believe Bush had responsibility for gas prices and Obama does not.
Bush has an (R) behind his name. Thanks for agreeing.
Towncrier
October 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
“Those college coaches get millions, plus all kinds of donated perks if they win. Kinda makes that PBS CEO job seem like chump change, doesn’t it?”
Athletic programs at schools should pay for themselves. And those private schools with HUGE endowments should maybe lower their tuition.
AmericaShrugged
October 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
The only Presidents not to have served since Hoover are Clinton and Obama. Oh yeah, that other Dem, Rockefeller, was a civilian in the Navy as he was an assistant Secretary during WWI. I think H.W.’s kid was the only one to serve though. Generally libs have Obama’s one big happy world philosophy so they don’t like to fight.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
RF: Now, THAT’S funny right there, I don’t care who you are! I just spit my half-lemonade, half-sweat tea (from Chic-fil-a) all over my keyboard! Gift shop in Hawaii, telemarketer for NYT! Sooo, that’s where he got all of his military and foreign policy experience! Damn, I stand corrected!
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
kamchak- Release those college transcripts, Mr. President! Birthers.
Just another example of “Mr Transparency”. You rarely see an open book with so much to hide…
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
The new $20.00 light bulbs now required by this out of control administration is just one of many examples of the pot calling the lying Democrats propoganda. The Romney jobs shipped over seas are alledged while the Obama jobs are factualy and documented.
Do you ever get your head out of talk radio show host ass long enough to think for yourself and see how stupid you sound? SHow us where Obama sent jobs over seas. Oh and as to lightbulbs? home Depot says you are a big fat liar:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbmbu/h_d2/Navigation?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&storeId=10051
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
Why does Paul Ryan run away when a reporter asks anything about his budget?
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/paul-ryan-aide-after-wjrt-interview-when-you-do-nearly-200-interviews-eventually-youre-going-to-see-a-local-reporter-embarrass-himself_b64873
Astounding Fact
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
Obama lies, people die.
Like Ambassador Chris Stevens.
getalife
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
Sheets.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
DownInAlbany — “half-sweat tea”
Instead of an Arnold Palmer, that’s an Arnold Schwarzenegger.
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
jamvet
Burn any good books lately?
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:48 pm
Albany: what were Mitten’s college jobs? Working in a gift shop doesn’t pay much, but it’s a real “job” versus sitting around waiting for your trust fund to kick in or dad to keel over so you get to open his will. Have you ever worked a deli counter or done telemarketing?
Those are actual jobs, regardless of prestige. I’d say that gives the man a better understanding of “work” than a rich-kid who grew up touring the world and having his lifestyle funded by dear daddy.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
1:48 pm
How many jobs did Mittens have in college?
Who gives a fat rat’s ass? The man is 65 years old. I doubt he can remember how many jobs he had in college, that i IF he had a job in college. I didn’t work when I was in college, so what?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:48 pm
Fred: As I’ve commented before…O outsourced security for our embassy in Libya to a British company. How’d that work out for our diplomats?
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:48 pm
“The industry’s total profits exceed $30 billion, so it would not be facing a crushing burden if the subsidies were to be eliminated; the Obama Administration proposes to eliminate only $2 billion of the subsidies.”
Larry,
Well allrighty then. That’s a whole different argument. The question then becomes should we single out in an arbitrary and capricious manner one particular industry regarding the depreciation writeoff. In other words should we should pick winners and losers based on nothing more than our whims and dislikes such as our dislike for “big oil”? So is that how you want to run policy?- based on populist likes and dislikes of particular industries? And are you going to whine when big oil passes on the costs to you?
And I think you have an argument brewing with keep up the good fight. Keep up says that these oil companies can’t sustain themselves without these subsidies from the govt? But you say they made 30 billion in profits. Whose right? You or keep up the good fight?
That Black Guy
October 9th, 2012
1:49 pm
RF
October 9th, 2012
10:59 am
Helps that he had Big Daddy to fund his start in capitalistic society. It’s easy when you’re born to money and have parents who can loan you all you need. Silver spoons are not dispensed at every birth.
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Is that what happened?
Are you SURE that’s how he got the capital to start Bain?
Are you POSITIVE George funded Bain’s start up?
Are you ASSuming?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:49 pm
Joe, that was wrong in sooo many ways. Funny, but wrrrroooonnnngggg! Have a blessed day! Eat more chicken!
larry
October 9th, 2012
1:49 pm
What Ryan doesn’t realize is that he cant run and hide Thursday night.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
1:51 pm
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
1:48 pm
Fred: As I’ve commented before…O outsourced security for our embassy in Libya to a British company. How’d that work out for our diplomats?
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When you tell the whole story and not a half truth half lie with a dangling participle, I MAY give you an answer. Try that silly crap there though on one of your brain dead talk radio hosts.
Why the hell you asking me about Libya anyway? I asked someone to link the jobs Obama outsourced to China and you reply with some stupid crap about Libya? Are you really that stupid? And Bush hired Haliburton with a no bid contract too right? Like those before him didn’t do the same.
How do you sleep at night telling so many lies all day? Well I guess it’s easy for folks like you who have no honor, ethics or integrity.
Astounding Fact
October 9th, 2012
1:52 pm
Poor Bo is going to have fewer doggie walkers in a few months.
At least Obama did not eat Bo.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:53 pm
“Difference without a distinction.”
Bumper sticker statement.
Are you asking rhetorically why oil can’t survive without these subsidies? Because you’re saying that there is no distinction between PBS funding and these oil subsidies. But we both know that without funding from the govt that PBS fails to exist. Can’t say the same for Exxon though can we?
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
1:53 pm
@JKL2
You totally missed the boat with the point I was making about Malia. I won’t even bother to reiterate the point since the post editor wiped my post by mistake.
…and learn how to spell pedoPHile will ya’?
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
1:54 pm
Is that what happened?
Are you SURE that’s how he got the capital to start Bain?
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Actually he got it from El Salvadorians who looted their Countries coffers before they fled their Country and put it in off shore banks. Romney has always had an affinity for dealing with dirty money from off shore banks that can’t be traced.
RF
October 9th, 2012
1:56 pm
hey Albany: here’s a “list” of Romney’s “jobs” that I could find (not much out there,btw) from biography.com (pretty neutral source, I’d say):
Mitt Romney attended the prestigious Cranbrook School before receiving his undergraduate degree from Brigham Young University in 1971. He attended Harvard Law School and Harvard Business School, and received both a law degree and a Master of Business Administration degree in 1975…Mitt Romney began his career in business. He worked for the management consulting firm Bain & Company before founding the investment firm Bain Capital in 1984.
Impressive history if you want a corporate man in the WH. Not so impressive if you want someone who knows what it’s like to earn a minimum-wage living in summers between college semesters. Somehow I think Mittens is a little out of touch with anyone below the 1% he grew up around.
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
1:57 pm
….and .0000000000000001% is STILL better chances than a Romney boy suitin’ up! LMAO
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
1:58 pm
RF,
I think Mitt gave away his inheritance to the church and or BYU. From what I’ve read Mitt is largely a self made man and his father’s money had little if anything to do with his enormous successes at Bain Capital. But don’t let your preconceived notions of how you think he made his money get in the way of the pesky ole truth.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:01 pm
Fred: You asked for an example of O sending jobs overseas. I gave you one. You offered no defense, just more name-calling. “…silly crap…” huh? Our embassy (sovereign US soil) was bombed, the flag burned, our ambassador RAPED and MURDERED (read it again, RAPED AND MURDERED) and you call it “silly.” Up until now, I’ve been yanking ya’lls collective change…getting some grins and giggles. I will refrain, however, from stooping to your level and start name-calling…even though I have some for you that are not proper for public forum.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:02 pm
Impressive history if you want a corporate man in the WH.
Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:03 pm
@Fred: I doubt anyone cares about work history, but I was responding to the inane post here:
“No, but, they have held a job, unlike the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania…unless you want to count “community-organizer.”
Just thought a little truth and facts might clear up some confusion. Carry on.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
Thulsa: Come on. He’s as much a “self made man” as Ted Turner is. They both had golden spoons up their rear ends from the time they were born and access to the “high class moneyed elite power brokers.”
Why do you folks try that crap? He is what he is, own it, regale in it. I sure as hell wouldn’t be ashamed if my daddy had been rich like his daddy and given ME the benefits that buys. Who in their right minds think he is? or his sons are?
Mick
October 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
downinalbany
How did the last corporate failure with an mba work out for you in the white house?
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
“Not so impressive if you want someone who knows what it’s like to earn a minimum-wage living in summers between college semesters.”
And how much real world experience does Obama have? I read somewhere that he might have had a job one summer working at a deli counter but it seems that can’t be confirmed. I don’t see where he had some great work history during summers or part time during high school or college.
And as for his community organizer work I’ve yet to hear from anyone specifically what the man did in this role. Exactly what were his accomplishments as a community organizer? No one seems to know.Does the man have any serious accomplishments to speak of in this role?
“Somehow I think Mittens is a little out of touch with anyone below the 1% he grew up around.”
Sounds pretty judgemental to me. You don’t get to rise to his degree of prominence without knowing a little something about people including people from all walks of life.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:05 pm
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:02 pm
Impressive history if you want a corporate man in the WH.
Yes, I do. Yes, I do.
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Only because you are completely devoid of all thought processes. Being President of a Country isn’t the same as being President of a Company. I wish the talk radio idiots would admit that.
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
2:07 pm
2 and William the crier, you neocons love your unique brand of American fascism and your trickle down pathology.
You anti-intellectuals hate the well educated because you want people to be stupid like you. Because being manipulated misery loves company! And PBS counters that.
You love taking rights away from people. The examples are myriad and innumerable. And you sicko habeus corpus haters know it.
You would jail women for having rights over their own bodies. (In Italy, the fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.)
Most of you want to destroy public education in an effort to create private schools designed to do your ideological and “Christian” (LOL!) bidding.
You HATE the word democracy. And put up all sorts of fifth grade argumetn sot expalin how it does not apply to this nation.
You violence addicted GOPers utterly reject internationalism, statesmanship and pacifism and demand militarism and war.
You glorify the traitors in the Confederacy and Joe McCarthy is your hero! Wow.
You largely ignore the Civil Rights movement an dto you unread, the Founding Fathers were Republicans that agreed with everything the Republicans are doing today.
And I haven’t even touched on how you fascist stooges are willing slaves to your Corporate Kings.
Now go bust up some unions thugs. Because they heavily represent professions held by mostly women such as nurses and education.
Is it any wonder at all that American Jews vote overwhelmingly AGAINST you???
Corporations Uber Alles.
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:07 pm
‘From what I’ve read Mitt is largely a self made man and his father’s money had little if anything to do with his enormous successes at Bain Capital”
Whether he gave away all daddy’s money is debatable, but even if he did, where did the captial come from to start Bain? somebody had to loan it to him, invest it in him, or give it to him. I’ll give him selling himself to potential investors, but he didn’t go out and scrape up the money delivering papers in Detroit as a child. He didn’t “earn” the money as much as he persuaded others to invest it. He made good on the investments, obviously. That makes him a savvy businessman. That’s hardly enough to be an effective president.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
Fred,
Romney had an advantage in education- same as most Dems like Obama or the Kennedys or Kerry. The fact of the matter is that if you do any reading at all its pretty obvious that the coin he made at Bain Capital he made. Why do you have such a problem accepting something that is commonly known about the man? His silver spoon inheritance was given away. Ya’ll keep mouthing off about his silver spoon and his daddy but when we mention that he gave away his silver spoon inheritance it seems to go in one damn ear and out the other. What if anything did his dad have to do with his successes at Bain Capital?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:09 pm
Being President of a Country isn’t the same as being President of a Company.
But, being a community organizer is?
RAPED AND MURDERED, but, I’m being “silly.” Yep!
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
I read somewhere that I will win the Oscar for best director next year, but it seems that can’t be confirmed.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:01 pm
Fred: You asked for an example of O sending jobs overseas. I gave you one.
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No you didn’t. President Obama doesn’t hire embassy guards you silly little man. Maybe you talk radio crowd believe insipid crap like that but it’s just not true. President Obama doesn’t sign defense contracts with the British company BAE systems either you silly little man.
Quit lying and try telling the truth.
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:10 pm
“Sounds pretty judgemental to me. You don’t get to rise to his degree of prominence without knowing a little something about people including people from all walks of life.”
No more judgmental that anyone else here, I’d say. What he knows is how to talk money with investors which makes him smart. He doesn’t know anything about the working class except to see them as a business expense and managable liability as a number on a page. Had he worked even once as a regular office worker or warehouse guy, he MIGHT have a clue. I’d bet he didn’t even have to polish his own silver spoon when removed from his mouth after birth. Judgmental- YEP, I’ll own that.
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 9th, 2012
2:11 pm
The fact of the matter is that if you do any reading at all its pretty obvious that I will win a Peabody Award.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:11 pm
Thulsa Doom: your comments are falling on deaf ears. “Charity” is not a concept Dems adhere to, unless, of course, they are giving away someone else’s money!
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:13 pm
Fred: The Buck obviously doesn’t stop with O, does it? Now, I’m a “silly little man.” Wow, your creativity amazes me! Name calling…that’s all ‘ya got.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:16 pm
Oh, and Fred, you’ve gotten so confused that you’re repeating yourself…”silly little man” twice in the same paragraph! Wow! Name calling…that’s all ‘ya got!
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:18 pm
Doomy please. Quit playing the idiot because I know you are smarter than that. By the time he “started” Bain, he was already made. And as for Bain/ As I told TBG: The money there came from “refugees” from El Salvador who pillaged their Country’s coffers before they left and stored the money in off shore banks, in untraceable accounts.
Google is your friend.
Don't Forget
October 9th, 2012
2:18 pm
Good start in really eliminating wasteful programs.
Yeah right, and deciding to take your clothes off before getting on the scale is a good start to a weight loss program.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
RF,
Its not a debateable point sir. He gave away his inheritance. All of it to BYU. Plain and simple. Just cause it blows away your pre-conceived hateful narrative of the man doesn’t make it not true.
From the reading it looks like he started off at Bain management and then after awhile he founded Bain capital. Now I’m sure he probably raised money through investors or put some of his money into it along with other venture capital partners. What does it matter? The point is that he and his company created enormous amounts of wealth. The fact that he didn’t do it sweating his ass off in a factory is beside the point. After all neither did Obama.
And I’ll take a business man who understands the economy and business which pays almost all of our taxes and gives us paychecks before I’ll take a freaking community organizer who has no govt experience and whose only job was agitating for more welfare for folks. We’ve had 4 years of the latter and all we have to show for it is another 6 trillion in debt, household real income down 8% in 4 years, and the worst economic recovery from a recession since the great Depression.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
Fred – Thulsa: Come on. He’s as much a “self made man” as Ted Turner is.
Ted had the luxury of taking over a billboard sign company after his father committed suicide….stay classy
Junior Samples
October 9th, 2012
2:25 pm
whatever happens the pubs are going to have to clean up the mess that the democtrats left ‘em; …and that does not mean to sit on your rump and blame bush for 4 years;
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:26 pm
Erwins Cat: i don’t care HOW his daddy died, the fact remains that Ted was handed a 1 MILLION DOLLAR business, back in 1963 when 1 million dollars was big money. What’s that in “today’s” cash?
Bottom line, I started MY company with the cash I got from pawning my keyboards and amp so I could buy a circular saw and a nail gun. That’s a far cry from having a million dollar running business. i’m tired of hearing how Ted Turner and Mitt Romney are “self made men.” Self made men my fat ass.
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:27 pm
“Its not a debateable point sir.”
Okay, say he did. The point is, he is only “self-made” in that he managed to get enough investors to start Bain Capital. As I said, he’s obviously intelligent. No dummy could make his money and keep it. I don’t doubt his financial skill or business acumen. But sef-made? Not so much.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:29 pm
“By the time he “started” Bain, he was already made”
Bullshyte. And if it weren’t bs you would provide a credible link to back it up.
“The money there came from “refugees” from El Salvador who pillaged their Country’s coffers before they left and stored the money in off shore banks, in untraceable accounts.”
Sure buddy. Now you’re sounding like some of those right wing listening to Rush Limbaugh loons that you are always complaining about. I did use google. And found some crazy ass left wing pubs saying crazy stuff. The credible stuff had him making his money through Bain. I’ll stick with the credible stuff as opposed to locknut left wing kook sites.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
Fred – a million dollar company that was bleeding money…that’s some silver spoon huh?
Jay
October 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
Fred, a serious warning: Cease the attacks and personal insults immediately.
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
Thulsa: let’s not forget also what put us in the Great Recession. Eight years of hands-off, deregulated Wall St. investors, deficit spending on two wars and tax cuts that couldnt’ be funded by the federal budget. Yeah, those corporate guys really know how to run government…right into the fiscal ditch. Recovery from that isn’t going to happen any faster by returning to some of the same policies that put us there in the first place. That’s like giving a kid the keys to a race car after he wrecked mom’s Impala driving it like a reckless idiot.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
Doomy: Bain & Company: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_%26_Company
Bain Capital: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital
Spin away pal as I know you will. But what you will learn AND IGNORE is that Bain Capitol was created using a sham 10 million and dirty El Salvadorian blood money. Bai & Company was saved from bankruptcy by cheating the Gov’t out of cash.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
“The point is, he is only “self-made” in that he managed to get enough investors to start Bain Capital.”
RF,
Nope. Part of being self made is selling investors and others on your concepts of how you can succeed and then making it happen. He may have used their money on top of his own but he still had to sell them on the idea, he still then had to take the capital and put it to work. Seems like you just aren’t happy unless you can do everything and anything to discredit the man’s accomplishments. And if you really want to be technical about it for that matter no one on Earth is self made. They still had to have the help of their employees to succeed. That goes for Bill Gates, Obama, anyone really.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:34 pm
Am I allowed to feel pity Jay?
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
Your hatred for Obama has made you lose what little brains you ever had
Nope, just hate what he’s doing to our great nation.
we ALL know he is omnipotent and all power rests with him.
Those are damn sure your words, they are not mine. That’s the problem. In your mind, O does no wrong!
You have no desire OR more importantly capacity for rational discourse.
But, you refuse to listen to reason. You ask for examples, I give them to you. Not good enough.
I pity you.
Probably not nearly as much as I pity you.
See ‘ya. I see Jay’s got another subject up. So many Dems to harass, so little time!
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
But, Jay, that’s all he’s got….
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
Erwins Cat: This doesn’t exactly read “bleeding cash” but spin it as you will since you will anyway:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Turner
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:38 pm
I realize Jay that identifying stupidity makes you feel uncomfortable. I don’t know why. I do it logically and clearly, just as I point out the lies. Just identifying a liar AS a liar is some how a bad thing. Is identifying a Big Mac as a Big mac a terrible crime as well?
RF
October 9th, 2012
2:40 pm
Thulsa: hellooooo, I’m not discrediting the man’s business accomplishments. I was just pointing out that the notion of his being self-made is inaccurate. He’s a smart man- has to be to keep up with all the changing political positions he has. His history, in my humble opinion, only points out that he had an incredible opportunity to succeed, that while not offering any guarantees, certainly set him up from a better starting point than any small business owner I know. I don’t doubt his accomplishments, I just question whether they qualify him for the presidency, and I don’t think they do. That’s my opinion, for the penny it’s worth.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:41 pm
:we ALL know he is omnipotent and all power rests with him.
Those are damn sure your words, they are not mine. That’s the problem. In your mind, O does no wrong!”
Nope. In YOUR words he is responsible for signing defense contracts and hiring security guards and everything else. “Tjhe buck stops with O.”
That is utter stupidity. There is no way ANY man can check all purchases, contacts, and hires for this country and to suggest otherwise is lunacy.
But “that’s all you got” is lies and radio talk phrases.
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
2:42 pm
All squabbling aside, I don’t think we’ll ever see this out the off-spring on any President again.
In February 1944, Roosevelt was assigned to England to help lead the Normandy invasion. He was assigned to the staff of the U.S. 4th Infantry Division. After several verbal requests to the division’s commanding officer, Major General “Tubby” Barton, were denied, Roosevelt sent a written petition:
“The force and skill with which the first elements hit the beach and proceed may determine the ultimate success of the operation…. With troops engaged for the first time, the behavior pattern of all is apt to be set by those first engagements. [It is] considered that accurate information of the existing situation should be available for each succeeding element as it lands. You should have when you get to shore an overall picture in which you can place confidence. I believe I can contribute materially on all of the above by going in with the assault companies. Furthermore I personally know both officers and men of these advance units and believe that it will steady them to know that I am with them.”
Barton approved this letter with much misgiving, stating that he did not expect Roosevelt to return alive.
Roosevelt would be the only general on D-Day to land by sea with the first wave of troops. At 56, he would be the oldest man in the invasion, and the only man to serve with his son on D-Day at Normandy (Captain Quentin Roosevelt II was among the first wave of soldiers to land at Omaha beach while his father commanded at Utah beach).
Ted Roosevelt was one of the first soldiers, along with Captain Leonard T. Schroeder Jr., off his landing craft as he led the U.S. 4th Infantry Division’s 8th Infantry Regiment and 70th Tank Battalion landing at Utah Beach.
-wiki
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:44 pm
Fred,
I just read that entire first link and for starters I didn’t see anything in there about some 10 million in Salvadoran dirty money making Bain capital what it is. Perhaps there is some nonsense in the footnotes but I didn’t see anything there. I’ll re-read it a 2nd time.
Secondly, I didn’t see where Bain cheated the govt out of cash. Are you imagining things or is this stuff even in there? I’ll read again but something tells me that even if I find what you are talking about the truth is a little bit different then the way you are representing it.
Thirdly, I see a lot of different financing techniques and leveraged buyouts and equity stakes that would have made them wealthy if they succeeded. Even if what you said were true about some 10 million in stolen Salvadoran money the fact of the matter is that 10 million is a pittance in the hundreds of millions of dollars of wealth created. 10 million did not make Bain capital what it is. And I suspect you know that.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:50 pm
Doomy: Look for this part: Early investors also included members of elite Salvadoran families who fled the country’s civil war.[20] They and other wealthy Latin Americans invested $9 million primarily through offshore companies registered in Panama
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:51 pm
“Early investors also included members of elite Salvadoran families who fled the country’s civil war.[20] They and other wealthy Latin Americans invested $9 million primarily through offshore companies registered in Panama.[21]”
Fred,
I finally found it. Out of all the writing on that page(several pages on their business dealings) you focus on small paragraph about some Salvadorans and other Latins who invested a paltry 9 million? You have got to be freaking kidding me?
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
2:56 pm
godless Heathen: You had me going there. I had never heard of him and thought you were talking about James Roosevelt, son of FDR who was a Marine Raider and made the Makin Raid with the Raiders.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Roosevelt,_Jr.
Thanks for the info. I’m still reading about him on Wiki. I guess he was FDR’s cousin?
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
3:02 pm
Fred:
In WWI: He (Ted) braved hostile fire and gas and led his battalion in combat. So concerned was he for his men’s welfare that he even purchased combat boots for the entire battalion with his own money.
Teddy’s son. Franklin’s son was a fighter also.
the cat
October 9th, 2012
3:25 pm
This right here is what is so astonishing about Republicans sticking up for ill gotten gains made by their fellow R’s. Disgusting.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
2:51 pm
“Early investors also included members of elite Salvadoran families who fled the country’s civil war.[20] They and other wealthy Latin Americans invested $9 million primarily through offshore companies registered in Panama.[21]”
Fred,
I finally found it. Out of all the writing on that page(several pages on their business dealings) you focus on small paragraph about some Salvadorans and other Latins who invested a paltry 9 million? You have got to be freaking kidding me?
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
3:26 pm
jamvet- You anti-intellectuals hate the well educated because you want people to be stupid like you. Because being manipulated misery loves company! And PBS counters that.
No. Must be why I’ve spent half my life in education.
-You love taking rights away from people. The examples are myriad and innumerable. And you sicko habeus corpus haters know it.
No, confusing me with Democrats. The only time they believe in choice is if you are talking about abortion.
-You would jail women for having rights over their own bodies. (In Italy, the fascists banned literature on birth control and increased penalties for abortion in 1926, declaring both crimes against the state.)
No, I’m pro choice.
-Most of you want to destroy public education in an effort to create private schools designed to do your ideological and “Christian” (LOL!) bidding.
No, but if they can give a better education for less money, have at it. You’re the left wing dinosaur against change on this subject.
-You HATE the word democracy. And put up all sorts of fifth grade argumetn sot expalin how it does not apply to this nation.
No, confusing me with obama again. He’s the one who wants to “radically transform” our country.
-You violence addicted GOPers utterly reject internationalism, statesmanship and pacifism and demand militarism and war.
No. Strong military does not equate to war. Starting to seriously question your vet status at this point.
-You glorify the traitors in the Confederacy and Joe McCarthy is your hero! Wow.
No, I’m not a confederate at all. I would say I’m a Yankee, but hard to do that when my family was in Germany at the time. I know as much about McCarthy as I do Millard Fillmore. Just another name in a history book
-You largely ignore the Civil Rights movement an dto you unread, the Founding Fathers were Republicans that agreed with everything the Republicans are doing today.
No, I do get called a racist because I don’t blindly follow the “I’m a poor black who needs help from the government” screed posted here daily. It’s the left who likes to point out skin color but that somehow makes me a racist. I do wish the Federal Government would spend a little time doing the job they were hired to do.
-And I haven’t even touched on how you fascist stooges are willing slaves to your Corporate Kings.
George Soros says,”What?”. obama luvs him some losers!
-Now go bust up some unions thugs. Because they heavily represent professions held by mostly women such as nurses and education.
Taking their hard earned money as dues to promote their own self interest. Unions haven’t been useful for about a century.
-Is it any wonder at all that American Jews vote overwhelmingly AGAINST you???
Often wondered about that. Not to worry as obama is doing his best to fix the problem.
Jamvet luvs him some censorship! Just like his hero’s obama and Hugo Chavez.
Erwin's cat
October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm
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independent thinker
October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm
Anybody know for sure what Romney’s tax plan is? Can you guaranty his personal taxes will not go down? How is he going to ensure that insurance companies will cover preexisting condition if he repeals Obmacare and leaves insurance matters up to the states?
Is he going to send troops back into Iraq if the insurgency increases or if Iraq continues to aid Iran?
How exactly is he going to get involved in the civil war in Syria?
Is he going to sever ties with Egypt or remove the Muslim Brotherhood by force? same for Hamas and Hezbollah?
JamVet
October 9th, 2012
3:59 pm
2, YOU are in education???
In what capacity?
A school bus driver?
RF
October 9th, 2012
4:20 pm
independent: don’t look for specifics from Mittens. When pushed on taxes, he says “it’s complicated” or “we’d rather deal with Congress on that…” It’s like pinning Jello to the wall, but hey he’s a conservative business mogul, so they’re ready to bring him on into the WH on a taxpayer funded golden throne. No sense wasting corporate profits on that.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
4:41 pm
Yeah, probably drove the short bus that you rode on…
Lar5
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Which Mitt is the liar? The new moderate Mitt or the extreme right wing Mitt. Perhaps maybe both.
It will make no difference because if elected he will be collared by the leash held by the zealot’s in control of the GOP.
Tom(Independent Viet Vet-USAF)
October 9th, 2012
4:51 pm
RF- Since you insist on calling Romney “mittens”, from now until election day, I’ll call the Pres, Barack Hussein Obama! I’m sure he is very fond of his Muslim middle name anyway!
RF
October 9th, 2012
6:50 pm
Tom: whatever floats your boat buddy….have at it!
JKL2
October 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
jamvet- 2, YOU are in education??? In what capacity? A school bus driver?
0-10-1 in what you thought I believed and that’s the best you got?
First became an instructor in 1987. Never had a bus license, but I can drive anything with wheels.
Z
October 9th, 2012
11:00 pm
Wasn’t it Anne Romney, who said that she was worried about Mitten’s mental condition. Mitt was hyper on debate night, one possibility could be he was on Prozac or some other mind altering drug. He was wild eyed, jittery and fast talking, like others I’ve seen on drugs for depression. Compare the Obama debate to Romney’s 47% speech to his wealthy friends in Florida, no comparison. Of course Liar’s have to talk fast as I understand it so that makes his speech in Florida the truther Romney because he was talking in a normal tone.
A REAL American Here
October 10th, 2012
6:33 am
I am sorry, but Romney said no tax cuts? I am sorry, but he has been promising them for the last 18 months, and Ryan just reiterated that promise 3 days ago. All ROmney did was lie, lie and lie. But as that is all he knows how to do, Obama sould have expected that. Mitt Romney; Pro Choice, Pro Life, Big Government, No GOvernment, HUge Tax cut for the top 1% (now called Job Creators), at debate No Tax Cuts. Romney, give control back to the states, at debate take control BACK. My God, as that is only a mere sample of his lies, does he just fall down when he getts out of bed as his head must still be spinning from preparing for all the lies to tell the next day!
A REAL American Here
October 10th, 2012
6:37 am
If anyone was not worried about Mitt’s mental condition before, they sure should be by know. Now how do you debate someone who, if you say the sky is blue says no, it’s actually green? How many faces dows this man have? He is a crack pot! And he willl d o whatever Cheney and Bolton tell him to do once elected. He knows numbers, he just does not have a conscious or a soul.
14.1% taxes on ONLY THE MONEY WE KNOW ABOUT!
A REAL American Here
October 10th, 2012
6:42 am
If you vote for Romney, do not blame me when the econamy collapses again. It will be ALL YOUR FAULT! But he needs to keep some left over cash from his campaign to finish his car elevator, enjoy some “SPORT”, get on an AIRCRAFT” and meet with his football, Nascar and Baseball owner friends to keep up with “SPORT”. He better stay away from bright lights as plastic melys! Who inthe world talks like that? Anyone? Maybe he is from another planet, as Mormons believe in God, they just think he was born on another planet and traveled to here. Have you ever known any Mormons? They are frickin CRAZY!
Kal
October 14th, 2012
3:13 pm
JUST IN……………… Stock Tip………. Buy KMB. (they own Kleenex) The liberals are already crying and buying at a record pace to wipe away their tears. The Obamanation of the USA is about to end this November.