Romney family intervention altered campaign, polls
UPDATE: 9:07:
From The Hill:
Mitt Romney has overtaken President Obama in a Public Policy Polling survey released on Tuesday.
Romney won 49 percent support from likely voters in the poll, compared to 47 percent for Obama.
It’s the first time all year Romney has led in the poll, which was conducted on behalf of liberal Daily Kos website and the Service Employees International Union. Obama led 49-45 percent in the group’s previous poll, conducted before last week’s debate.
The PPP poll, like the Pew poll cited below, was taken in the immediate aftermath of last week’s debate.
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Source: Pew Research Center
In a new nationwide Pew poll taken in the immediate wake of last week’s debate, Mitt Romney holds a four-point lead over Barack Obama. Until that’s confirmed by other polling, count me unconvinced. Yes, Obama did poorly in the debate, but there’s little to support the contention that a 12-point swing took place — Pew’s pre-debate numbers gave Obama an eight-point lead, a little on the high side — or that the debate completely erased Obama’s 18-point lead among women, as Pew reports.
There’s no question that Romney got a good bump out of the debate. The question is how large and whether it lasts. Gallup and Rasmussen provide evidence that it has begun to fade, perhaps because of the good jobs report, but time will tell.
And what inspired this apparent shift in Romney strategy and fortunes? In an interesting new story at Politico, the change is attributed to an intervention on Romney’s behalf by his eldest son, Tagg, and his wife, Ann, in which they demanded a more moderate approach.
“Even now, many Romney officials wonder whether the change can be sustained. In essence, Romney is trying to undergo a political metamorphosis — to shed an image of personal stiffness, and to emerge loose and willing to compromise. Romney, advisers concede, is at his worst when improvising — and this shift is the biggest improvisation of the campaign. Right now, Romney is described as going with the flow, trying to quickly grow into this new public persona, most notably with his decision to tell personal stories on the stump.
Campaign officials said any change will be confined by Romney’s own cautious nature. And they are candid that their electoral map still looks terrible: Romney is behind in nearly every vital state. Ohio still looks very tough to win and New Hampshire, once a possibility, looks very bleak, officials say.”
So we’ll see. Again, there’s no question the narrative arc of the campaign has been altered. As that great political strategist Yogi Berra once noted, it ain’t over ’til it’s over.
– Jay Bookman
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TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Republicans select their presidential candidate based on the eloquence with which he presents his lies. Mitt quickly recognized that his hidden camera lies lacked that eloquence. He let his guard down because he failed to account for the real possibility that someone could be secretly recording him. Mitt Gekko Romney compensated and adjusted his many faces quickly before his next public appearance–a feat in and of itself, no doubt.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Will Obama’s daughters join the ROTC?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever join the military?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever go to public schools?
No.
So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
JD – “A basic choice faces the American people”
Agreed, they must decide whether they want to be ruled by the extreme asshats on the Left or the extreme asshats on the right.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:19 am
BTW, Hillary Clinton will never be president of the USA. No way, no how. The only reason she even has a job is because the Dems owed her for saving Bill Clinton in the 90s.
Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!
October 9th, 2012
9:19 am
Thulsa,
On your “football” comment to Fred…I will agree that Romney will probably win the white male vote…minus me, of course, but that will be all. America is not all while you know. The “minorities” will win this one for the President. That’s a good thing. In fact, if I had my way, there would be a law that you had to marry outside your race. Eventually, we would all be the same color and this race BS would finally be over. But the minority vote is why the GOP is so disparately trying to suppress their votes…they know.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:20 am
Fred,
Naw man. I just told you I would knock your ass out of liberal chocolately unicorn shytting skittles fantasy land back into reality.
Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 9th, 2012
9:20 am
Thulsa – ” I think Politifact or one of them so called fact checkers which coincidentally are all by products of liberal newspapers called the Medicare lie the biggest whopper of the year.”
Trying to scare old people is at the top of the Democratic playbook. The one titled “By all means necessary”.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
Guess I missed it but what is Obama’s military background? Thought so. Let’s not beat that dead horse again….. hypocrites for Obama.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
“So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.”
You mean… “Obama wages WAR on military and public schools!”
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:21 am
When the Daily Beast says Obama is real trouble you know libs are panicked.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:22 am
Why do you big strong, studly Republican men feel that you have to pick on little 11 and 14 year old girls? What the hell is your problem? It’s bad enough you human pieces of dung have to attack the Presidents wife but his little girls?
What a bunch of sad pathetic little men you are. And those of you Republicans who listen to this crap and don’t speak up are just as bad. i can’t ever imagine wanting to be a part of a party that has to pick on women and little preteen and barely teen girls.
Jm
October 9th, 2012
9:23 am
Romney’s lead, if he has one, will fade or go negative
Because the Obama campaign is so good at lying and tearing people down
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:23 am
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:18 am
Will Obama’s daughters join the ROTC?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever join the military?
No.
Will Obama’s daughters ever go to public schools?
No.
So, Obama hates the military and hates public schools.
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And here is another big man who has to pick on little girls to make his oh so important little attempted “point.”
Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
Normal,
Anyway we look at it its a close race. I do believe that if Obama wins Ohio that Romney is toast. The irony of it all is that the 3 states that Romney needs- Ohio, VA, and Fla. I think are all doing better overall due to Republican governors. I will try and find it but I saw in the news about a month ago that of the 23 states that changed governorships last time around (15 went R 8 went D) that the states that went R have since seen their unemployment drop by by almost 50% more than the states that went D. Kinda interesting. It was a news clip on CNN or Cpan I think.
only in the USMC's mind...
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
So in other words, Mitts “Royalty” is different than Prince Charles?
Prince Harry returns to Afghanistan
(CBS/AP) LONDON – Prince Harry is back in Afghanistan. The British royal – third in line for the throne behind his father Prince Charles and brother Prince William – arrived in Afghanistan Friday for his second stint on the front lines.
According to the British media, Harry will spend his four-month deployment aboard an Apache attack helicopter, one of which he inspected upon his arrival Britain’s Camp Bastion, in the Helmand province.
The British reporter tasked with covering Harry’s arrival for the U.K. media said he looked “relaxed, if slightly tired,” after his journey on a standard military flight from England.
Harry was to undergo about 10 days of acclimatization before being sent out on combat missions as a co-pilot gunner.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57508080/prince-harry-returns-to-afghanistan/
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:24 am
“Romney’s lead, if he has one, will fade or go negative”
Maybe, maybe not but it is fun to watch the left implode. I’ll always remember Chris Matthews yell at Ed Schultz and that race baiter.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
Why do you big strong, studly Republican men feel that you have to pick on little 11 and 14 year old girls? What the hell is your problem? It’s bad enough you human pieces of dung have to attack the Presidents wife but his little girls?
Did you really expect better from that antiqued white male party.
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
“Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.”
Sorry pal, I don’t play your game. I call em like I see em. If Romney’s sons are fair game then so are Obamas daughters. You don’t get to pick and choose.
weetamoe
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
That old Pew guy, Andy Kohut or something, has been around for years. He was on PBS last night with some fairly convincing figures–and Pew has been consistently center-left leaning. But I still think Mitt is not ruthless enough to beat the pro.
The Pulitzer prize winner Ramirez is a lot more creative than Luckovich. I saw the empty high chair cartoon in some other publications. Happy it finally made it to the AJC.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
“You mean… “Obama wages WAR on military and public schools!””
wow.
the drama llamas have it cranked up to 11 today.
NA
October 9th, 2012
9:26 am
You’ve got to be very careful if you don’t know where you are going because you might not get there. ( Yogi Bera also)
The problem is we know where we are going with Obama———— Down!
Need a chance to get well. Romney’s that chance.
You can not spend your way out of this mess, but if we re elect Obama he will keep trying until there is nothing left.
Jay loves polls that say what he wants them to say. One poll comes out that is not showing what he wants and the poll is automatically discounted.. Jay should be on the Obama staff and he can help guide Obama down the path to ruination as if he needs any help
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
Krystal’sBalls:
But seriously, what is SO STRIKING AND BAFFLING to me is the fact that Romney is right before ALL of our eyes beginning to thumb his nose at those who most fervently supported him up to this point especially on the far right
You missed the whole “etch-a-sketch” moment. What everyone misunderstood about it was that it wasn’t so much that MItt Romney was going to change his tune overnight, the point was that he cynically knew that if he timed things just right, if he allowed the morale of the right wing base to sink low enough, and then waited to stage his rally at just the right time, that he would be given a blank check by the right to morph any way he likes in order to upend the race and win. THIS the right wing “base” is on board with, since now they have been given an opportunity to play a part in the drama.
The right wing base is a sucker for any chance to stick its thumb in the eyes of the librul mainstream establishment.
Thulsa Doom
October 9th, 2012
9:27 am
I’m out for awhile.
Fred, buckle your chin strap. I’m sending an Alabama linebacker to jack you up. I would do it myself but I’m feeling charitable today. It would be less painful to you if I just sent one of King Saban’s boys. I’m nice like that ya know.
Respect Saban! Do it now Fred!
And btw ya’ll dawg fans take it easy on Mark Richt. He’s a good man. And quit egging Aaron Murray’s house. It aint all on him either.
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
I would say the over/under favors the Obama girls for serving in the military before a Romney boy would. I guess the clowns haven’t noticed that Malia is actually quite the athlete, and a bit (no a LOT) of a tomboy. She is very much in the mold of a Lalah Ali, and would shine at any U.S. Military Academy. Then again, I guess you have to have an “eye” for such things.
Laugh on JKL2
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
Obama will be prepared next time to debate Mitt the primary and Romney of the general elections, Thank You Obama for keeping America safe for 4 years, no attacks on American soil.
The right wing would like to go back to Bush policies of another 911, thank God all our troops are not like USMC Gomber on this blog who is angery because he had to take orders from a black Commander and Chief and supported the last administration who more lives were lost under any administration.
USMC
October 9th, 2012
9:28 am
“What a bunch of sad pathetic little men you are. And those of you Republicans who listen to this crap and don’t speak up are just as bad. i can’t ever imagine wanting to be a part of a party that has to pick on women and little preteen and barely teen girls.”–Fred
What kind of Marinade did you inject in those New York strips last night, Fred???
TiredOfIt
October 9th, 2012
9:29 am
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
8:08 am
I guess you must have really loved GW’s foreign policy. Did you complain then?
Last time I checked, he’s been out of office for almost 4 years and is not running for anything at this time. Two wrongs make a right, huh?
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I should have stated it as Republican policies Not to mention the number of Willard’s advisers are from guess where?
“Those Who Forget History Are Doomed to Repeat It”
NA
October 9th, 2012
9:30 am
Taxpayer if all republicans choose their candidate based on the eloquence of their lies, They would all be voting for Obama.
weetamoe
October 9th, 2012
9:32 am
Those comments are not *picking on Obama’s little girls* and you know it. If you are looking for examples of what you accuse others of, check remarks made by David Letterman, Andrew Sullivan, Dave Weigel, Ezra Klein, Matt Iglesias—for a start—
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:33 am
I don’t believe in polls. They are too easily manipulated by the wording of the question. very few, if any, are free of bias anymore in my opinion.
It is also my opinion that this race here is WAY too close to call. (Which means it will probably be a total blow out one way or the other lol). I am looking forward to watching the returns on election night after I turn in the returns for my precinct. I have no doubt that in my precinct, Romney wins, I am in a strongly Republican area of Dekalb. While I’ve seen a ton of Romney/Ryan signs in yards, I have yet to see an Obama sign. Just a little under a month to go. Wow may time pass quickly.
joe
October 9th, 2012
9:33 am
“good jobs report”
POPPYC0CK! That garbage includes one day poll workers (temp job) where the “employees” will be paid for two days of work…one training class in Oct and the day of the election in Nov. With the economy the way it is, NO WAY those jobs are “real.”
Face it, Obama is toast!!
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
9:34 am
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
USMC, your recent obsession with this woman is kind of disturbing.
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:35 am
SHUT UP
October 9th, 2012
9:25 am
“Nice job big man. Going after a 14 year old girl and her 11 year old little sister. Aren’t you just a stud.”
Sorry pal, I don’t play your game. I call em like I see em. If Romney’s sons are fair game then so are Obamas daughters. You don’t get to pick and choose.
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Right, grown men ARE like little girls aren’t they. Is that what you tell yourself when you are beating up little girls instead of picking on grown men you studly man?
Actually you are a sad pathetic excuse for a man. There is no way you would talk about my little girl like that in person. There’s no way you would talk like that about ANY man’s little girl in person so don’t even pretend you would. You are sick. Seek help.
Butch Cassidy (I)
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
joe – “Face it, Obama is toast!!”
Just keep telling yourself that. http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
the point was that he cynically knew that if he timed things just right, if he allowed the morale of the right wing base to sink low enough, and then waited to stage his rally at just the right time, that he would be given a blank check by the right to morph any way he likes in order to upend the race and win
So Mitt is conceding the right extreme/tea party positions will fail to get him elected. He abandons them to move to the middle and they either believe they can force him back after the election (if he wins), they just don’t believe in their own principals, or they just hate the current President so much, that anybody but Obama is the ONLY option (at whatever cost)
moonbat betty
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
Thulsa/Fred,
Don’t make me bring in Terry Tate on you ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jplpjCaec
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:37 am
Class warfare, gender warfare, victim warfare, age warfare, etc., etc. etc………. Obama’s and Nanny Pelosi’s efforts to “bait and switch” is losing it’s effect – this election is about THE ECONOMY, CREATING JOBS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND REDUCING THIS ALARMING FED DEBT. When it comes down to crunch time voters will filter through the B.S. and realize that without a healthy economy these gub’ment socialist programs like Obama Care are just a leftist’s wet dream.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
9:37 am
Another liberal myth being slayed….. but they’ll still live in fantasy land.
” Jonathan Haidt, a professor of ethical leadership at New York University’s Stern School of Business (and an Obama supporter), points out that liberals are more apt to hold inaccurate stereotypes about conservatives’ values than vice versa. “
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:38 am
I don’t need marinade USMC to know right from wrong. I don’t need marinade to know how pathetic it is to pick on a 14 year old and an 11 year old little girl.
is that news to you? Do you stand idly by while grown men abuse little girls? You are now here……..
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
9:38 am
“Thank You Obama for keeping America safe for 4 years, no attacks on American soil.”
What about Ft. Hood?
Oh yeah, that was workplace violence.
Bwaahahahahahahaha
Mary Elizabeth
October 9th, 2012
9:39 am
“Right now, Romney is described as going with the flow, trying to quickly grow into this new public persona, most notably with his decision to tell personal stories on the stump.”
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Style vs. Substance. Many people, I suppose because they are young or at least younger than my generation, do not understand why the1960s “social revolution” was as fervent and intense as it was.
Many young people thought that too many of their elders were living out preordained, expected “images” of what they should be, instead of living out who they authentically were. That falseness resulted in unhappiness personally, and within families. The young people of the 60s questioned the values of the society in terms of perceptions related to race, sexual roles, unquestioning patriotism related to war and the killings in war. (”Look Who’s Coming to Dinner,” “The Graduate,” “Coming Home” with Jane Fonda, regarding the Vietnam War) The country became divided as witnessed in the horror of the Kent State University killings by policemen of college students who were protesting those superficial values, as they saw it, within American society. The country became divided on the Civil Rights Movement where little black school girls were murdered in Alabama. The nation has remains divided today. Evolution of consciousness takes time.
In Romney, I see a man trying to live out an acceptable image without a core of depth, and in Obama I see a man who is living out who he is authentically is. Moreover, it is the policies of Romney that are important, not his style or whether he appears “stiff” of not. His policies reflect the mindset of the 1950s – an America that values “strength” through toughness in its foreign policy, where there is a definite class demarcation among people based on wealth and status, where men and women have defined roles, and where kindness comes from what one “shows” rather than who one “is.”
Obama’s policies not only lifted this nation economically from the pits of a near Depresssion, but they reflect the America that has confirmed that the social revolution of the 1960s has made America better and stronger in reality, not just in image. Obama’s values and policies also reflect belief that America has emerged the better for having been transformed by the 1960s into a nation that values authenticity, racial equality, sexual equality, leading the world through its moral authority – as George Washington had modeled for posterity – rather than through intimidation. Obama knows that real strength does not come through the projection of surface images, but of the authenticity of that internal strength that can say to his subordinates “Find Osama bin Laden bring him to justice” as his #1 foreign policy goal.
Image vs. authenticity. Style vs. Substance. Lies v. Truth.
I support Obama for many reasons and among those reasons are the ones I just described.
straitroad
October 9th, 2012
9:40 am
Typical Bookman, when there is a real story to report on such as the embassy terror attack cover up, Jay makes another excuse for his candidate and references the Politico. You guys can’t ever admit fault in anything. It’s always someone elses fault.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
9:41 am
Wow…the libbies sure are cranking up the hostility since Obama got his huge ears pinned back in the debate.
Hysterical watching the libs trying to paint romney as a flipflopper and a liar.
Does Obama consider Jeremiah wright and Bill Ayers friends and mentors, or does he not?
Does Obama comsider raising the debt ceiling a failure of leadership, or does he not?
Did Obama promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term, or did he not?
Did Obama promise to run the most open and transparent administration in history, or did he not?
Did Obama promise to “reach across the aisle” and work with republicans, or did he not?
LMAO at the crybabies……
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
9:41 am
they just hate the current President so much, that anybody but Obama is the ONLY option (at whatever cost)
Need you state anything else? Haven’t we seen overwhelming proof of that line of thought already?
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:42 am
F. Sinkwich
Ft. Hood? wow a American soldier, why not Colorodo, AZ angery white men, I wonder would had happen if these guys were muslims? I guess it would have been Obama fault.
Ben Shockley
October 9th, 2012
9:42 am
Mary Elizabeth @ 9:39…
That is absolutely, positively, the funniest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks for sharing.
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
9:43 am
“You Lie, ineloquently!” – Joe Wilson’s unedited remark
Fred ™
October 9th, 2012
9:43 am
LOL Moonbat? Where did you ever come across that? Tate was funny but I must say I was more partial to ‘Geneva.”
Krystal'sBalls
October 9th, 2012
9:46 am
@Good Fight
Exactamundo! This is why I just chuckle when I think about what these blogs will look like a year or two into a Romney presidency should he win, and the realities of Washington have set in and Mitt has found himself unable to pretend being something he is not. It’s a lose-lose for those who think they’re “in”. After all, most of THEM are the “47%” anyway. Mitt gives no damn about them! LOL
Mitt will OWE… Adelson, Koch, et al. If he doesn’t play after all they’ve paid (for him), he just might come up missin’! Another thing… they’ll look up and see the Middle East situation JUST AS IT HAS BEEN, tax policy JUST AS IT HAS BEEN (favoring the wealthy), etc. I am sure though a convenient amnesia will set in. The whole thing will be worth the price of admission in my opinion.
At least they will have taken back THEIR White House (and country) though. That’s all that matters to them.
gm
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Obama will stand up and debate both Mitts one of the primary and one of the general, he should tell the liar to look in the camera and say it was wrong to save millions of auto workers jobs.
White history books 30 years from now will say Mitt gave the order to kill bin ladin and saved America from the brink of disaster, and has kept America safe for the last 4 years, and there was never 911 under Bush.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Brosephus, agreed.
By the way, our conned friends love to play the absurd race card. But here is an interesting quote from Ark. Republican Rep Jon Hubbard: “…the institution of slavery that the black race has long believed to be an abomination upon its people may actually have been a blessing in disguise. The blacks who could endure those conditions and circumstances would someday be rewarded with citizenship in the greatest nation ever established upon the face of the Earth
Bro, you feeling blessed today? I mean white citizenship was basically just getting to the shores, but hey, you worked for it.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Vote for a better, more vibrant, tuth-free America
Just make stuff up and everyone will be happy!!!
Mary Elizabeth
October 9th, 2012
9:48 am
Ben Shockley, and your lack of grace in a response tells me greatly of who you are – as well as what side of the American divide you fall into. The opposite of mine.
Finn McCool (The System isn't Broken; It's Fixed)
October 9th, 2012
9:49 am
sorry to distract but this is a good read on the housing market:
http://www.alternet.org/economy/housing-market-hype-are-we-really-expected-believe-prices-will-rise-high-unemployment
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:50 am
Hollyweird needs to consider a remake of the popular Pee Wee Herman Show now that Obama will soon be available to play the lead role.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
9:55 am
I know the president is only responsible for gas prices if they have an (R) after their name.
Let me explain, once and for all, what made people believe Bush had responsibility for gas prices and Obama does not.
It wasn’t media bias. It wasn’t gas prices rising at a particular rate or being over a certain amount. It wasn’t the fact that one is Republican and one is Democrat.
Instead, it was the fact that both Bush AND Cheney owned previously or had stake in or connections in the oil industry. It was the fact that many on the right loudly proclaimed oil from Iraq would pay for the Iraq War, and Halliburton getting preferential no-bid treatment in the aftermath of invasion. The people, and part of the media, believed that the control did not come from the office of the President, but from the two people at the head of the executive branch controlling things on the oil front outside of the office responsibilities.
By contrast, Obama has no such connection. The right wing media repeatedly portray Obama as having absolutely zero private sector experience. They portray him as they do all Democrats: tree hugging and against oil (I work for an oil company and can tell you absolutely that, just like the gun nut crazy sh*t, Obama does NOT have it out for oil companies in a “you-must-die!” kind of way as the right portrays). Because of this, the media and the public would have a really hard time believing Obama has any control here. Spinmeisters try to make up reasons why he MUST be responsible instead, but to most people that comes off as far less plausible than a President who was once an oil baron and still has buddies in the industry.
tl;dr: Obama has no connections or influence in the oil industry. Bush and Cheney both did. Bush and Cheney having some control over gas prices is a more plausible theory than putting Obama in the exact same position in the theory.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
9:55 am
You can’t win a debate where facts are against you…….. Jacob A. Astor.
For principles
October 9th, 2012
9:56 am
Romney political intervention in the caucusses and vote rigging in the primaries altered the outcome of the primary process to his advantage. Why should anyone be surprised by his underhanded techniques in the general election.
jose
October 9th, 2012
9:58 am
I think that the Democratic excuse machine is in full operation. It would be more intellectualy honest not to blame the debate moderator (and I know you didn’t blame Lehrer, Jay) or concoct goofy stories like this. What happened in my opinion is that a lot of Americans are not happy about where the economy sits today and Romney’s performance gave us confidence that he would make it a priority and has the background to do something about it. We have doubts that Obama has the ability to take this on and the debate showed us that those doubts might be real.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
9:58 am
““You Lie, ineloquently!” – Joe Wilson’s unedited remark”
my 9th grade English teacher would have marked him down -15 points for the comma splice.
Brosephus™
October 9th, 2012
10:01 am
Keep: Bro, you feeling blessed today? I mean white citizenship was basically just getting to the shores, but hey, you worked for it.
Rightwing Troll
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
Yes, but WHICH Mittens will stride into the Whitehouse???
“Severely Conservative” Mittens? Or unabashedly Moderate Mittens of last weds night?
Either one will have to deal with half of congress being against him and doing everything they can to put the kabosh on anything he wishes to do…
“Severely Conservative” Mittens will have dems against him and his agenda, unabashedly Moderate Mittens will have to deal with tea tardz and “fergit hell…” types..
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
Little girls being attacked…. a perfect example of gender/victim warfare. Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military. This is about Obama and Romney so why do you leftist’s continue to throw B.S. on the wall about Romney’s family if you don’t want the same done to Obama?
godless heathen
October 9th, 2012
10:03 am
Stating an opinion that the children of the President probably won’t serve in the military is picking on 2 little girls?
Me thinks Fred is stretching pretty far to find something to be indignant about.
jose
October 9th, 2012
10:03 am
No president, R or D, can control gas prices. They are driven up by a middle eastern cartel which monopolizes crude oil production and artificially sets the market price. And we, in turn, willingly pay whatever the market charges because we are addicted to petroleum. Easy to blame some faceless company like Halliburton of fret over insidious inside political connections. Unfortunately, the answer lies in the middeast. And we, both Republican and Democrat, have been willing to send our young men to fight wars that are ultimately over oil and defend crazy regimes like the Saudis because they rule the cartel.
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
10:04 am
Polls will matter when
elections are held by
calling voters at home.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:05 am
S. UP — “Jay, are you in need of medication? For the past few months you believed that Obama was in the lead because of the polls. Now that the polls are shifting, you suddenly don’t believe them.”
Right. Jay believed it because of *the polls.* Plural.
But *the polls* haven’t shifted. *A* poll has. And that one poll is supposed to override all the others? Have you ever heard of something called an “outlier?”
The degree to which statistical innumeracy seems to pervade the ranks of the con faithful never ceases to amaze me.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
10:07 am
Nero continues to fiddle as Rome burns…http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/09/Obama-Camp-Attacks-With-big-Bird.
Micheal Ray Richardson
October 9th, 2012
10:07 am
Today’s odds from the offshore bookie: Obama -265; Romney +225.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 9th, 2012
10:08 am
Well, things is looking up. Soon we’ll have somebody with lots of Business experience in the White House. I always wanted my personal life to be just like my work life. You know, have somebody say, If you don’t like it don’t let the door hit you in the back side. And if I get in a jam I can have somebody say, your personal life ain’t no concern of mine. Start taking Personal Responsibility and stop making Bad Decisions. And if the air gets filthy and the water stops being fit to drink, be told, Stop breathing and drinking. We got a business to run around here, get out of the way.
Yup, it sure is going to be different when we have a Business man in the White House.
Have a good Tuesday everybody.
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:08 am
Romney was more energetic and antimated during the debate. But that does not say much about how he will do as President.
Our economy is recovering and the war is winding down. We are on the right track.
Romeny does not have a plan. Just a lot of noise.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:09 am
Our 1st “Reality Show” President is more entertaining in his fantasy world known as “D.C” than Honey Booboo or the fat women trying on wedding dresses… but “Housewives of blah blah blah may be more dramatic.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:09 am
Best excuse: Wedding anniversary sex before the debate.
b-troll
October 9th, 2012
10:10 am
Mary Elizabeth likes kool-aid. She drinks it by the pitcher.
What can one say other than: oh well. Another uninformed voter.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:10 am
Disclaimer: This guy here thinks Obama lost the debate. But I also think the liberals overreacted to him not being as “strong” and many had to be talked off a ledge.
The polls will probably settle more into a tightened race because the over-emotional liberal reaction will calm down.
F. Sinkwich
October 9th, 2012
10:11 am
“They are driven up by a middle eastern cartel which monopolizes crude oil production and artificially sets the market price.”
Another excellent reason to vote for the Mittster. He believes in NA production of oil and other fossil fuels. O’bozo thinks we can beat OPEC with a solar powered windmill.
Good job, jose
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:13 am
“Morality” — “Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military. This is about Obama and Romney so why do you leftist’s continue to throw B.S. on the wall about Romney’s family if you don’t want the same done to Obama?”
You don’t get it, and neither does SHUT UP. It’s not about Romney’s family and it never was.
It’s the fact that when asked about his sons and whether or not they served in the military, he made it clear that to his family, ‘national service’ also means ‘volunteering in a political campaign.’ I’m sorry, but it’s not. There’s no way on earth that political volunteering is equivalent to actual military service — and Mitt clearly equated to two.
It just underlines how disconnected he is from average Americans (you know, the kind of people who would actually serve in the military) and how disdainful he is of rank-and-file military servicemembers and veterans.
Adam
October 9th, 2012
10:13 am
He believes in NA production of oil and other fossil fuels. O’bozo thinks we can beat OPEC with a solar powered windmill.
Anyone who thinks Obama has it out for the oil industry has no f***ing clue what they’re talking about. He only didn’t approve the pipeline because the Republicans forced him on a timetable that was impossible to meet if you know how to be a good project manager. He will approve it. He also lifted the moratorium in the gulf after essentially no useful changes had been made to regulation.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:14 am
“Hypocrites for Obama don’t tolerate the other side pointing out that Obama never served in the military”
um. yeah. the difference, of course, is that he didn’t avoid a DRAFT the way Mittens did.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
10:14 am
GOP – Guess Our Positions.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
he didn’t avoid a DRAFT the way Mittens did.
Those Frenchies weren’t going to convert themselves.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”. Samuel
barking frog
October 9th, 2012
10:15 am
Gas prices will stabilize
when there is a
Organization of Petroleum
Importing Countries (OPIC).
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
KUTGF — “GOP – Guess Our Positions.”
DINGDINGDINGDINGDINGDING!
We have a winner!
TaxPayer
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
I wonder if Obama’s age had something to do with him not being drafted to serve in Vietnam. Nah.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:16 am
“Those Frenchies weren’t going to convert themselves.”
I’m soooooooooooooo supportive of the Viet Nam War, I’m going to go to the root of the problem … FRANCE!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:17 am
“Morality” — “Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”.
Tell you what. You ignore Samuel L. Jackson’s Ebony interview and I’ll ignore all those columns Chuck Norris has been writing for Townhall.com for the last couple of years.
Deal?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Maybe Jay Bookman can tell us why John Corzine is still not in cuffs even now almost a year after his firm’s debacle.
Morality?
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
SJK was actually being a little bit truthful . actually he didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s black…… would he vote for Herman Caine? He voted for Obama ‘ cause he’s a left wing big gub’ment socialist. Same reason Bill Maher voted for Obama.
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
How did Mitt miss out on serving in Vietnam? Did he, like Cheney, have “other priorities”?
I give him some credit….a Stanford prof sez he demonstrated *against* the anti-war demonstrators.
He snagged a Religious Minister deferment. He served 2 years in the jungles of France, enduring endless wine & cheese tastings.
In between, he’s credited with 2 kills (converts), probably the wine steward and the room service babe at the Mormon palace in Paris.
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Samuel L. Jackson in Ebony Magazine interview “I didn’t vote for Obama ’cause he’s got a plan to save America. He ain’t got no G D plan to save America. I voted for Obama ’cause he’s black”.
Can someone explain to me why right wingers feel they need to re-post this bit of ephemera week after week?
I’m really at kind of a loss to comprehend just who’s supposed to give a good crap about it.
DownInAlbany
October 9th, 2012
10:18 am
Since the debate, Obama has mentioned Big Bird and Elmo 13 times. He has failed to mention Libya or his plan to fix the economy even once. At least he’s sticking to the subjects that he understands!
MANGLER
October 9th, 2012
10:19 am
The posters that like to paste/paste/paste ad nauseum what they feel are broken promises from ‘08 when Obama was stumping need to remember that mindset should Romney win. All politicians clamor for their base when politicking, but when governing they must be more centered because they are no longer appealing to just their voters, but representing everyone.
Am I surprised that Romney switched to center moderate? Not at all. I didn’t expect it to be a full scale switch all at once in that first debate (and apparently neither did Obama). However, in doing so, he essentially abandoned most of his core principles that he’s been accepting donations in support of. I’m not so sure how his original Base is going to justify voting for him since he’s 180′d them again (or it is 540′d, or 900′d, or 1,260′d?). Obama’s message has not wavered in 4 years. Romneys has in the past 4 days.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 9th, 2012
10:20 am
Stands: I’m really at kind of a loss to comprehend just who’s supposed to give a good crap about it
Because obviously no one, and I mean NO ONE, voted against Obama because he was black?
Oscar
October 9th, 2012
10:20 am
Save Big Bird and Elmo.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 9th, 2012
10:21 am
DownInAlbany — “Since the debate, Obama has mentioned Big Bird and Elmo 13 times. He has failed to mention Libya or his plan to fix the economy even once. At least he’s sticking to the subjects that he understands!”
As opposed to Romney, who keeps jabbering about the military and foreign policy; two topics he knows nothing about.
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 9th, 2012
10:22 am
“Can someone explain to me why right wingers feel they need to re-post this bit of ephemera week after week?”
because one black celebrity represents all blacks, doncha know …
except, of course, unless they’re a black celebrity that supports Mittens … then they represent all democrats … or something
stands for decibels
October 9th, 2012
10:22 am
Missed this, earlier from RW:
That was actually a witty and quick on his feet retort to an out of left field charge from Kerry that Bush secretly owned a lumber yard.
I will acknowledge that GWB wasn’t the least bit rattled when he delivered that line; it just sounded like a bizarre, if very funny, thing to say.
Maybe it’s my inner Beavis and Butt-head that thinks this.
Tundra Dude
October 9th, 2012
10:23 am
>>the change is attributed to an intervention on Romney’s behalf by his eldest son, Tagg,
and his wife, Ann, in which they demanded a more moderate approach.
An intervention, eh..
Wonder if they’re having him attend 12-step meetings, such as EA, (Extremists Anonymous).
georgia
October 9th, 2012
10:25 am
Romney was like a Jack-in-the-Box who popped up and exclaimed, “I can fix that!” No matter how absurd the assertion, no matter how impossible the connect-the-dots, and no matter how sound Obama’s reply was, Romney became this ridiculously-animated musical punctuation.
The moderator was a problem. He actually argued policy with Obama, and stepped on the subtle nuances of Obama’s delivery. He may as well have been stuffing ballots.