Romney outlines “tough” foreign policy approach
To date, Mitt Romney’s critique of the Obama foreign policy has been a case study of bluster over content, without specifics, although the presence of men such as John Bolton, the shoot-first former U.N. ambassador, as influential members of his foreign policy team ought to give Americans serious pause.
In fact, if we are to judge him from the tone of his rhetoric and by those whose counsel he seeks — and that’s about all he has given us to go on — Romney proposes to pick up where Dick Cheney left off in 2004, when a chastened President Bush belatedly took back control of foreign policy from his over-adventurous vice president.
I note that in his speech today at the Virginia Military Institute (text available here), Romney blamed the Obama administration for differences of opinion that have erupted between the United States and Israel.
“The world must never see any daylight between our two nations,” Romney said.
However, I do not believe it is our responsibility alone to ensure that such daylight never occurs. Israeli leaders bear at least equal responsibility for keeping that important relationship on an even keel. We are certainly under no obligation to outsource our foreign policy in that region to Benjamin Netanyahu, as Romney seems to advocate.
(In fact, if forced to synthesize the Romney Doctrine to one sentence, I might offer this: The rest of the world will be required to abide by our wishes; we will be required to abide by Israel’s).
Romney also spoke, as he has in the past, of a foreign policy based on confidence, clarity and resolve. These are good and necessary things. Unfortunately, the man’s credibility in preaching these virtues is more than a little suspect. You may recall that earlier this year, as an uprising in Libya gained strength, Romney first supported U.S. intervention and then opposed intervention and then embraced it again once it had succeeded. At one point, he even fled reporters in Las Vegas rather than be forced to take a position on the crisis.
Likewise, he harshly criticized the goal of removing Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddhafi from power, then turned around celebrated once that goal was achieved.
That is not a policy based on resolve. Likewise, Romney’s outrageous claim that President Obama sympathized with those who attacked and killed our ambassador to Libya and three others — a statement issued on the very night of their deaths — communicated not mature confidence but hasty, amateurish desperation and an eagerness to inject partisan politics in foreign-policy decisions.
I am most curious about his policy toward Afghanistan. Here’s what Romney had to say:
“… in Afghanistan, I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in Afghanistan is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war — and to potential attacks here at home — is a politically timed retreat that abandons the Afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders. And I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation.”
Now, I would suggest that those are odd words from a man who just preached the necessity of clarity in foreign policy. Take a look again — do those words tell us anything about Romney’s approach to Afghanistan, or how it might differ in concrete terms from that undertaken by Obama?
Finally, Romney not only suggested that he would oppose any cuts in defense spending, he advocated what would appear to be a new military buildup. That is consistent with his pledge to commit a minimum of 4 percent of GDP to defense spending. By 2014, that would mean a $200-billion-a-year increase in spending over currently projected levels.
Given our financial situation, a 33 percent increase in projected defense spending at a time when we already spend more than the next 10 biggest military powers combined would not seem to be a wise investment. And again — although Romney continues to be painfully averse to specifics — in general the GOP candidate would seem pretty eager to put that larger military to regular use overseas.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
October 8th, 2012
3:41 pm
Just use one name jm.
Mindless lies as usual.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
3:41 pm
I would ask you how Obama voted in the Senate for or against the war in Iraq. Wait a minute, he was not there on that day…..hmmmm he must have been hanging out with his boy J. Wright or another one of his terriorst William Ayers buddies.
Boy, ain’t nothing like putting your stupidity out on display so bad that even Stevie Wonder can read it here without any help. Given that the vote happened in 2002, and Obama didn’t win election until 2004, I guess he was too busy in the Illinois Senate. Not that your dumbass would know the difference or even educate yourself enough to not look so stupid. But, hey, if that’s how you like to make yourself look, who am I to talk about your choices???
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
3:41 pm
“Israel is the only friend we have in that region. Try to imagine a future without that friendship”
Do you think that our relationship with Israel makes our relationship with the Arab states easier?
Or are you claiming that Israel provides for some significant strategic advantage for us there?
RF
October 8th, 2012
3:41 pm
@ Lee: ” However it is our responsibility to stand with Israel and back them with support especially when being threatened with WMD’s.”
THAT was the comment I responded to Lee. So are you using WMD’s and nuclear weapons interchangably? Confusing, to say the least. What exactly is Iran threatening them with? Most people don’t use the terms to mean the same thing in my experience.
“RF….Ok, would you like to debate the WMD subject. Being that the entire world including the Democrats voted to go into Iraq? Being that Iraq USED them on their own people. You can pretend that they were not there but evidence say’s otherwise.
Anyways I was referring to Iran. Do you have any doubt that they are attempting to produce a nuclear weapon?”
DUH! Of course they want to develop nuclear weapons. I absolutely agree that we should defend Israel in the event of an attack by Iran. But I don’t think we need to go looking for something and make it up if we have to like we did in Iraq. Your originial post and challenge to debate WMD’s was taken to mean something other than nuclear weapons. That we can agree doesn’t need to happen?
Cleared it all up for you yet or do you have some more?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
3:42 pm
Lee — “Joe….”provably” Sorry I do not understand that word.”
I’m sure you don’t.
Long story short, your claim about “the entire world including Democrats” voting to go into Iraw was quite simply wrong.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:42 pm
Doggone…..It is on Thursday, it is going to be well worth the wait.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
3:42 pm
Kyle’s back. You sock puppets can go home now. Don’t bother about cleaning up, we’ll fumigate later………
Doggone/GA
October 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
“and Obama didn’t win election until 2004″
So far it appears that Obama should have volunteered to serve in a war when he was only 14, and should have voted for a bill in Congress before he was even elected to serve there. No WONDER the conned call him their “Messiah” – that’s some POWER!
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
3:43 pm
Great stuff on the “Obama phone”, not that Democrats really care what he does…
Great stuff on dumbassery, not that Woodstock Mike doesn’t mind making an ass of himself.
getalife
October 8th, 2012
3:44 pm
Thank God.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:44 pm
RF…..Ok, so we somewhat agree. However you think we should wait until Israel is attacked before we provide any kind of support for them?
josef
October 8th, 2012
3:44 pm
USMC,
What’s the problem, I thought you’d be fluent in PIG Latin, Pansy Poker…
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Doggone @ 3:43
LMFAO!!!! That sheds a whole new light on those claims now. I am beginning to understand the jackassery a bit better.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Ok, the “Lee” sock puppet has shown his full troll self now. He’s nit picking typo’s and being deliberately obtuse because he has no original thought to share. How droll……..
Jm
October 8th, 2012
3:45 pm
Getalife – one name
Sure. When you do the same.
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Being that the entire world including the Democrats voted to go into Iraq?
?????????????????????????????
Lee, what part of 57% of congressional Democrats voting AGAINST letting you know who botch – every step of the way – an invasion and occupation in you know where, escapes you intellectually dishonest neocons.
Seriously.
Jm
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Fred
If anyone is a Droll Troll, it might be you
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
3:47 pm
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
3:36 pm
Yep Fred I’m all torn up that YOU do not approve of me!
You got me I’m upset and don’t know what to do about it.
Does it bother you that you think boys and girls should be treated differently with different expectations?
Why ask about my wife? She’s fine though. She doesn’t like it when I talk to the boys about the military either.
But don’t beat her never have. Don’t beat women cause well according to you it’s because I was born in the south.
And her dad has won his share of gun shooting events on both state and national levels. He’s kinda a gun guy.
So if I ever forget I’m southern there’s always that.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
3:47 pm
Brocephus? How would you do some New York strips on your weber?
Or Moonbat Betty if you are here on the Egg?
Ribeyes I do direct at 650 degrees, but that doesn’t work on strips………
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
3:47 pm
So now there are 48 states in the world.
No I didn’t assert that someone else did.
Shall we enter the wayback machine and verify that?
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:22 pm
Ok, would you like to debate the WMD subject. Being that the entire world including the Democrats voted to go into Iraq?
Oh yeah, that’s right.
It was you that asserted the entire world “voted to go into Iraq.”
WOW, this is great. I needed a great laugh. Thank you.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
3:48 pm
Jm
October 8th, 2012
3:46 pm
Fred
If anyone is a Droll Troll, it might be you
+++++++++++++++++++++
LOL good one.
Doggone/GA
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Doggone…..It is on Thursday, it is going to be well worth the wait”
So you lied when you said you couldn’t wait
Woodstock Mike
October 8th, 2012
3:49 pm
Guess who said this?
“One nice thing about the situation I find myself in is that I will be held accountable. You know, I’ve got four years…If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
3:52 pm
getalife
October 8th, 2012
3:37 pm
Sure.
If he intends on placing young men and women in harms way Then I do feel it is within bounds to ask if his kids plan to serve and what is his advice to his children on military service. Even the girl getalife.
Or should I leave her out because she is a girl
Woodstock Mike
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Brosephus,
Wow, now you’ve turned into an ignorant idiot. Don’t let this blog do that to you. Sad…
All I said was it’s interesting that those who benefit from the “Obama Phone” are some of his biggest donors. Call me crazy.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
W. Mike — “Guess who said this?”
Karl Rove’s proctologist?
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
How would you do some New York strips on your weber?
Not much of a red meat eater, but I wouldn’t be above smoking that over some nice, hot charcoal and applewood chips. Don’t own a weber, but my chargriller works pretty good for what I do.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Doggone….Nope it is going to be great. Let’s see if CNN sides with who won (Repubs) again during this debate. Life is great.
RF
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
“RF…..Ok, so we somewhat agree. However you think we should wait until Israel is attacked before we provide any kind of support for them?”
Nope, never said that. What kind of “support” do we give them? Go ahead and attack Iran because we think they have some nefarious WMDs pointed that way? Yeah, that make sense in Right-wing Crazyland, but not in the real world. Do you think we need to provoke Iran by attacking them now? I most emphatically do NOT think we should do that.
RF
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
“RF…..Ok, so we somewhat agree. However you think we should wait until Israel is attacked before we provide any kind of support for them?”
Nope, never said that. What kind of “support” do we give them? Go ahead and attack Iran because we think they have some nefarious WMDs pointed that way? Yeah, that make sense in Right-wing Crazyland, but not in the real world. Do you think we need to provoke Iran by attacking them now? I most emphatically do NOT think we should do that.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
“Romney is a new Republican war monger who could literally invite a nuclear attack on the United States.”. -ramzad
not intended to be a factual statement.
Peter
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Well of COURSE the Republican’s will find a way to fund the Romney Wars……. Social Security !
Woodstock Mike
October 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
What Brosephus doesn’t realize is that his comments about me completely make him a dumbass…
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:55 pm
Woodstock….If I were Romney I would play that video clip day and night until the election.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Peter….Nope can’t use social security or welfare because Obama is already using those funds to support Obamacare. Try again.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
What Brosephus doesn’t realize is that his comments about me completely make him a dumbass…
Surrrreeeeeeee……… are you dating Morgan Fairchild too?
Liberal Pariah
October 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Well of course Obama is not going to call Radical Muslims ‘Terrorists’, admit they killed Americans in Libya intentionally or support Israel. His upbringing makes him sympathetic to Muslims. It’s the only answer for his failed foreign policy, Before all you Libs start blabbering, ‘I killed Bin Laden’ is not a foreign policy.
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
3:58 pm
Lee, if you were intellectually honest it would be a start!
No wonder, you’re a big Flip fan…
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
“Or should I leave her out because she is a girl”
No, because she is 4 years shy of being eligible to serve.
Romney’s children have all achieved the age of majority.
Note: All were of age in 2001 as well.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm
All I said was it’s interesting that those who benefit from the “Obama Phone” are some of his biggest donors. Call me crazy.
There is no such phone as the “Obama Phone”. I guess you don’t want to mention that GW Bush was the actual president when that phone program was implemented. That’s why I called you a dumbass, and will continue to do so to anybody that talks about an “Obama Phone”. If you research the program, you’ll find that it has been in existence for a long time too, and each major change to the program came during Republican Administrations. If I remember correctly, I think the program was even started by a Republican administration.
But, for someone to peddle that “Obama Phone” bulls*it, I’m sure I look like an ignorant idiot to you. Funny thing is, you’re only looking at your reflection in your computer monitor.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
4:00 pm
“What’s the problem, I thought you’d be fluent in PIG Latin, Pansy Poker…”–jonix
Only after a few Toddies. And leave my Pansy Poker alone or I’ll tell Jay.
Oh… and your epidermis is showing!
paulo977
October 8th, 2012
4:01 pm
Adam….td ..”: Since when is it important to free the women of the middle east but clamp down on their rights here at home?”
__________________________________________
Obviously ….the sauce is not the same for the ‘gander’…..HYPOCRISY thy name is also GOP!!!
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
4:01 pm
“Karl Rove’s proctologist?”
Most difficult job in the world given where Bush II has his head his entire term.
Paul
October 8th, 2012
4:02 pm
nelson
” attempting to denigrate a great and good and brilliant statesman, Mitt Romney? ”
You really, really ought to look up the meaning of the word ’statesman’ before you use it again.
josef
Thanks very much.
The population may not even realize how much (in Turkey) they’re leaving the military with what they see as no option but a takeover.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 8th, 2012
4:02 pm
Peter
October 8th, 2012
3:54 pm
Well of COURSE the Republican’s will find a way to fund the Romney Wars……. Social Security !
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.
.
More likely the funds the Post Office was forced by the GOP to pay years ahead for their pensions.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
What Brosephus doesn’t realize is that his comments about me completely make him a dumbass…
Only in your twisted world where calling out somebody for making a dumbassed statement makes me a dumbass. It must really suck to be you. I can’t even understand why you continue to post here. You come here and make stupid statements and then get all defensive when you’re called out for them. Why not use google to actually research something before you post? It will make you look more informed as opposed to simply repeating what you hear on the radio, tv, or read on the internet.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
Look — “Most difficult job in the world given where Bush II has his head his entire term.”
Well, Mr. Bush is the procto’s advance man.
independent thinker
October 8th, 2012
4:04 pm
Hey cons -how is that democracy and free elections doctrine of your boy George W. and Condi working in the Middle East?
We now got Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Brotherhood in Egypt and kissing cousins of the Iranians in Iraq and Karzai in Afghaniistan. All upstanding governments!!.
Think it will work better with your boy Mitt who wants to keep troops in Iraq and punish the Egyptians for electing the Muslim Brotherhood? Maybe we need to send John Bolton over there to shake them Arabs up a little. Bring Condi back to force those Israelis to give up some more land with no concessions by the other side like they did in Gaza. Worked out good didn’t it?
Yeah Mitt is the man with a plan. Just do not ask anyone in his family to serve. that is work for the 47% who are moochers and leeches.
RF
October 8th, 2012
4:05 pm
“Most difficult job in the world given where Bush II has his head his entire term.”
No wonder Rove’s been on Fox looking so unhappy. No fun times for his bum with GWB out of it. Next thing you know, he’ll be doing commercials for the reverse mortgage folks…
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
4:05 pm
Brosephus — “Why not use google to actually research something before you post?”
Because facts have, y’know, that librul bias to ‘em n’ stuff.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:08 pm
Obama Phone
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp
The lifeline program originated in 1984, and who was president then? Clinton expanded it in 1996. The next major milestone was in 2008, when cellular service began. Who’s administration did that fall under?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
4:08 pm
Why not use google to actually research something before you post?
It’s too complicated to go any further than drudgey.
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
4:08 pm
So wonder of wonders.
Lee is not going to touch that fact that the majority of democrats voted against the invasion of Iraq.
His oft repeated lie is more important to his neocon revision of recent history.
Shameless.
And why anyone with military aged relatives should vote against this disgraceful Romney and these hopelessly f’ed up PNAC Republicans…
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:09 pm
JHM
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
4:10 pm
Look before I leap…
October 8th, 2012
3:59 pm
Ah ha,
Why I asked about her plans in 2016. Is it something she is considering, is it something her parents have talked to her about?
BTW I didn’t say anything negative or positive about either candidates children, especially not in relation to how it reflects upon their parents.
Anyone who has had children can testify that there are things you have no control over.
But I would like to know the opinions of the candidates as it relates to their children and their service or potential service.
Romneys children have apparently already made their decision.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
4:12 pm
JamVet…Hmmm I wonder why? Could it be because there was a Republican president. Genius!
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
4:12 pm
…or support Israel.
It is a shame that being a lying idiot on a blog does not pay.
Our afternoon cons would be in their beloved 1%!
Adam
October 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Lee: I would ask you how Obama voted in the Senate for or against the war in Iraq. Wait a minute, he was not there on that day….
He wasn’t in the U.S. Senate at the time, but he did speak in strong opposition when he was a state senator mere weeks before the vote took place.
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
Funny how all the blogsphere noise about media biased polling has disappeared since the numbers began to tilt towards Romney.
If the debate bounce begins to evaporate, I wonder how long it will be before the handwringing returns.
Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette
October 8th, 2012
4:13 pm
I see the fact chekers are busy again….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fact-check-romney-spins-one-sided-story-on-trade-defense-cuts-in-foreign-policy-speech/2012/10/08/ee0dfa02-117b-11e2-9a39-1f5a7f6fe945_story.html
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
4:14 pm
According to the latest polls, Mitt Romney is going to be elected President of Enthusiasm. I think that is a former Eastern bloc country
Heh, heh, heh.
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
4:14 pm
No, you lying about that matter has nothing do with who was president, Lee.
It has everything to do with you being a shameless inveterate liar.
Own it. You’ve worked hard to get that reputation here.
Adam
October 8th, 2012
4:15 pm
Brosephus: That’s why I called you a dumbass, and will continue to do so to anybody that talks about an “Obama Phone”.
You should see this guy on a particular facebook thread, always saying “Obamashowers” as though that means something too.
getalife
October 8th, 2012
4:16 pm
While mitt was showing he is pitifully weak on national security and will flip flop on all positions our President was going after the Latino vote.
Smart move.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
Jamvet….Thanks for the compliment.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
4:17 pm
Adam — “You should see this guy on a particular facebook thread, always saying “Obamashowers” as though that means something too.”
Y’all let me know when they start in with the “Obamaridinglawnmowers” and “Obamabluraydvdplayers,” K?
paulo977
October 8th, 2012
4:20 pm
How the Brits view Romney??
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/08/mitt-romney-delusional-foreign-policy
getalife
October 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
lee is jm.
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
@Marty
Nice words, but I don’t buy it.
I think you were deflecting (and doing a rather crappy job of it too).
I would not put much past Rush when it comes to asking vile questions, but I doubt even he is low enough to drag Obama’s 14 year old daughter into an open debate about military service.
willydoit?
October 8th, 2012
4:22 pm
“Big troop numbers are a throwback to WWII mentality and capability. Technology doesn’t get people as emotionally riled up, but is a lot more effective in the fight against terrorists. We’ve accomplished more with drones”
I’ve always heard you can’t win a war without ground troops. But I agree with that you can accomplish more with drones…..and bombs…big bombs!! No ground troups were lost in invading Japan…how many of you would be williing to save our young soldiers the way we did in 1945??
Would you be willing to let our defenses kill men, women and children?
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
4:23 pm
Nothing personal paulo, but I couldn’t give a fat rats ass what the british or any other european country think about Romney OR Obama. We threw off the yolk of British tyranny over 230 years ago and have continued to reject european imperialism. I only care what AMERICANS think.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Y’all let me know when they start in with the “Obamaridinglawnmowers” and “Obamabluraydvdplayers,” K?
Screw that, I’m holding out for the Obamazr1corvette!!!!
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
Sure, Lee (and don’t call you Shirley),
If you were paid to tell the truth you would still lie.
And after being caught in said lie, you play stupid. To perfection.
And why you make such a damn fine modern day Republican!
But take heart as you take a look at your fellow cons here this afternoon – you ain’t alone!
For you can’t shoot straight, inept invaders…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfmCjmnZuQ
RF
October 8th, 2012
4:24 pm
paulo: yeah, two of our most important allies in Europe think Mitt’s an idiot. Not a good way to presidency with them thinking that about you before you’re even elected.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
4:25 pm
Would you be willing to let our defenses kill men, women and children?
I’d drop the bomb and sleep like a baby every night afterwards.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
4:26 pm
willydoit — “No ground troups were lost in invading Japan…”
Huh.
Guess all those guys didn’t die on Iwo Jima, Ie Shima and Okinawa.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
4:26 pm
JHM, Brocephus: I’ve easier than you two. I’ll settle for some Obamabeer.
Jm
October 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
Getalife 4:21 um, nope
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
4:27 pm
getalife, that explains it!
The craven and shameless b-troll boy!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 8th, 2012
4:28 pm
Y’all let me know when they start in with the “Obamaridinglawnmowers” and “Obamabluraydvdplayers,”
Well I just signed up for my free ObamaFiskarKarma. I dont sell out cheap.
willydoit?
October 8th, 2012
4:29 pm
“Guess all those guys didn’t die on Iwo Jima, Ie Shima and Okinawa”
My bad, I thought those were different islands?
RF
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
“Would you be willing to let our defenses kill men, women and children?”
And like we don’t do that in troop wars? You know as well as I do that the civilian casualties are there, no matter the “weapon” used. That’s the reason we need to change our war strategy and reserve it for real, substantiated situations. Iraq wasn’t one, and our leaders had to lie and make up intelligence to get approval for it. Afghanistan isn’t one, and Iran won’t be either. Yet, under Republican administrations, we always end up committing troops and firepower to situations that could be handled much more simply. If we need actual troops, send what we need and get out quickly. Are you proposing that we continue the current trend of sacrificing thousands of our young men and women fighting wars that have no purpose to satisfy one party’s bloodlust?
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
Fred
Hell, I can buy beer on my own. If I’m gonna mooch on something, I want the BEST!!!
I’ve also noticed that most of the gobbledygook died off as soon as somebody announced Kyle’s place was back in operation.
Tundra Dude
October 8th, 2012
4:30 pm
Lee:
However you think we should wait until Israel is attacked before we provide any kind of support for them?
Typical braindead Faux Nuze consumer.
The USAF estimates Israel has about 400 nukes. Most other estimates I’ve seen are in the 2-300 range.
How many nukes would Iran need to attack Israel and prevent their own destruction…??
How many decades does it take to make one of these thingies…??
Iran’s Ever Imminent Nukes: A History of Hysteria
by Muhammad Sahimi, May 05, 2010
The Israeli President warns us now that Iran is on the cusp of producing a nuclear weapon. Heaven preserve us. Yet we reporters do not mention that Shimon Peres, as Israeli Prime Minister, said exactly the same thing in 1996. That was 16 years ago. And we do not recall that the current Israeli PM, Benjamin Netanyahu, said in 1992 that Iran would have a nuclear bomb by 1999. That would be 13 years ago. Same old story
http://bit.ly/aqIWTT
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
4:31 pm
I’m holding out for my ObamaSarahShahi
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
4:33 pm
Look before I leap…
October 8th, 2012
4:21 pm
That’s your opinion. Nothing I’m going to do to change it that is obvious.
Kinda ironic considering your name and all.
Rightwing Troll
October 8th, 2012
4:33 pm
“Try to imagine a future without that friendship”
Ok… there…
Nothing changed.
Drama queen.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 8th, 2012
4:33 pm
I’m holding out for my ObamaSarahShahi
I have a full set of those, I can send over a spare if you really need one.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
willydoit — “My bad, I thought those were different islands?”
They’re all part of Japan, both before and after the war.
Since Japan’s an island nation, there’s not really a ‘mainland’ as we think of it. All of Japan’s territory is on islands. When I was over there, I heard Honshu (the island on which Tokyo is located) referred to in jest as the “Japanese mainland,” but there are three other ‘main’ islands and dozens — maybe hundreds — of lesser ones.
We never invaded the four *main* Japanese islands, but we had some horrendous battles with the Japanese on little islands that were and are Japanese territory. I guess the ones best known to Americans would be Iwo Jima (site of the famed flag-raising) and Okinawa (where we have a military presence even today). Ie Shima sticks with me because noted war correspondent Ernie Pyle was killed there, shortly before the war ended.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
4:34 pm
Would you be willing to let our defenses kill men, women and children?
To quote someone that’s hated here in Georgia… War is hell. When you try to make war all nice and pretty, you don’t get the same message across if you decide to level everything within sight. I don’t necessarily condone killing in that mindset, but do you think the guys that flew planes into the World Trade Center thought about that? Do you think that the people who plotted the original version of that plan, the Bojinka Plot, cared that women and children might be on the planes they wanted to blow up?
That’s why I think any action of war should be the ultimate last choice for anything. Strategic strikes only work to a point. When you really want to deliver a message, you have to destroy things to get attention.
Rightwing Troll
October 8th, 2012
4:35 pm
“I’ve also noticed that most of the gobbledygook died off as soon as somebody announced Kyle’s place was back in operation.”
Yeah, they just get downright ugly and nasty over there, and that’s just them talking among themselves…
getalife
October 8th, 2012
4:35 pm
cons give a new meaning of dumbing down.
They do it daily like mitt switches positions.
I was for Libya before I was against it.
moonbat betty (from the green egg pit of hell)
October 8th, 2012
4:35 pm
Fred –
Fire your Egg up full heat.
Drop the strips on first side about 2 min. Flip (of course, be careful when you pull the lid up or you will get flame broiled your self) and do the other side about 2 min.
Close all vents and do each side approx. 2 more minutes each depending on how you like them cooked.
As good as Bones or Chops if you have a good cut.
willydoit?
October 8th, 2012
4:35 pm
“Are you proposing that we continue the current trend of sacrificing thousands of our young men and women fighting wars that have no purpose to satisfy one party’s bloodlust?”
Absolutely not! as the father of an U.S. Army Infantry man, I would much rather BIG bomb the hell out of our enemies and keep our boys at home.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
4:36 pm
Mitt Romney:
I will call on our NATO allies to keep the greatest military alliance in history strong by honoring their commitment to each devote 2 percent of their GDP to security spending. Today, only 3 of the 28 NATO nations meet this benchmark.
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Yeah right. The guy who couldn’t open his mouth on British soil without sticking a big foot in it, and who is held in contempt by even Europe’s conservative parties, is really going to press European government to enrage their populaces even further and come up with money they don’t have, for what?
What a fraud.
willydoit?
October 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
“That’s why I think any action of war should be the ultimate last choice for anything. Strategic strikes only work to a point. When you really want to deliver a message, you have to destroy things to get attention”
I think we can agree on that Bro!!
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
4:37 pm
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
4:31 pm
I’m holding out for my ObamaSarahShahi
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DUDE!!!!!!!????????? Where do you find all these babes lol?
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
I have a full set of those, I can send over a spare if you really need one.
Keep
You didn’t build that.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
Mitt Romney is a loathsome turd.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
4:38 pm
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
4:25 pm
That’s free defends against anyone asking if a young woman has plans to join the military.
But after dropping a bomb on babies……….
Well he would sleep like a baby