Romney outlines “tough” foreign policy approach
To date, Mitt Romney’s critique of the Obama foreign policy has been a case study of bluster over content, without specifics, although the presence of men such as John Bolton, the shoot-first former U.N. ambassador, as influential members of his foreign policy team ought to give Americans serious pause.
In fact, if we are to judge him from the tone of his rhetoric and by those whose counsel he seeks — and that’s about all he has given us to go on — Romney proposes to pick up where Dick Cheney left off in 2004, when a chastened President Bush belatedly took back control of foreign policy from his over-adventurous vice president.
I note that in his speech today at the Virginia Military Institute (text available here), Romney blamed the Obama administration for differences of opinion that have erupted between the United States and Israel.
“The world must never see any daylight between our two nations,” Romney said.
However, I do not believe it is our responsibility alone to ensure that such daylight never occurs. Israeli leaders bear at least equal responsibility for keeping that important relationship on an even keel. We are certainly under no obligation to outsource our foreign policy in that region to Benjamin Netanyahu, as Romney seems to advocate.
(In fact, if forced to synthesize the Romney Doctrine to one sentence, I might offer this: The rest of the world will be required to abide by our wishes; we will be required to abide by Israel’s).
Romney also spoke, as he has in the past, of a foreign policy based on confidence, clarity and resolve. These are good and necessary things. Unfortunately, the man’s credibility in preaching these virtues is more than a little suspect. You may recall that earlier this year, as an uprising in Libya gained strength, Romney first supported U.S. intervention and then opposed intervention and then embraced it again once it had succeeded. At one point, he even fled reporters in Las Vegas rather than be forced to take a position on the crisis.
Likewise, he harshly criticized the goal of removing Libyan dictator Moammar Gaddhafi from power, then turned around celebrated once that goal was achieved.
That is not a policy based on resolve. Likewise, Romney’s outrageous claim that President Obama sympathized with those who attacked and killed our ambassador to Libya and three others — a statement issued on the very night of their deaths — communicated not mature confidence but hasty, amateurish desperation and an eagerness to inject partisan politics in foreign-policy decisions.
I am most curious about his policy toward Afghanistan. Here’s what Romney had to say:
“… in Afghanistan, I will pursue a real and successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014. President Obama would have you believe that anyone who disagrees with his decisions in Afghanistan is arguing for endless war. But the route to more war — and to potential attacks here at home — is a politically timed retreat that abandons the Afghan people to the same extremists who ravaged their country and used it to launch the attacks of 9/11. I will evaluate conditions on the ground and weigh the best advice of our military commanders. And I will affirm that my duty is not to my political prospects, but to the security of the nation.”
Now, I would suggest that those are odd words from a man who just preached the necessity of clarity in foreign policy. Take a look again — do those words tell us anything about Romney’s approach to Afghanistan, or how it might differ in concrete terms from that undertaken by Obama?
Finally, Romney not only suggested that he would oppose any cuts in defense spending, he advocated what would appear to be a new military buildup. That is consistent with his pledge to commit a minimum of 4 percent of GDP to defense spending. By 2014, that would mean a $200-billion-a-year increase in spending over currently projected levels.
Given our financial situation, a 33 percent increase in projected defense spending at a time when we already spend more than the next 10 biggest military powers combined would not seem to be a wise investment. And again — although Romney continues to be painfully averse to specifics — in general the GOP candidate would seem pretty eager to put that larger military to regular use overseas.
– Jay Bookman
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Steve-USA "None of the Above"
October 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
Kimmer – “Obama’s criticism is not for using a teleprompter. He gets dinged for his obvious over dependance on one and his seeming inability to speak coherently without it (see last weds night).”
Yep
Tundra Dude
October 8th, 2012
1:35 pm
Fred wrote,
>>There’s a longing for American leadership in the Middle East my fat white arse.
If that’s what RMoney said, he’s clueless.
>>The only ‘longing” there is their longing for us to leave them the hell alone and get our big noses out of their business
Exactly. Imo, if there’s ever free elections in that region, from Nawth Africa thru the MidEast ,up to Central Asia, neither the US, the UK, or Israel will have a single ally. Zero.
Mick
October 8th, 2012
1:36 pm
jay
Did he really get creamed as that media line is pushed again? I watched the whole debate and thought they both were off and the moderator did nothing to guide the oft bloated answers. It wasn’t until I listened to the “analysis” did it all come down like a ton of bricks on obama. I did notice romney lying up a tornado…
mbtc
October 8th, 2012
1:36 pm
Ahhhhh, now I get it; we can’t afford to give a hand up in the US because we have to be the stern nanny abroad.
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:37 pm
mitt’s policies come with a disclaimer.
Subject to change when challenged.
Rockerbabe
October 8th, 2012
1:39 pm
Israel’s only objective in all of this mess, is to ensure that the USA pay for its illegal and ill-gotten acquistion of Palestine’s real estate. Isreal is not interested in peace; only in getting more real estate for itself. Romney is just another yahoo who is aching to kiss Bebe’s @ss.
gm
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Amazing Mitt is tough on foreign affairs, but has 5 sons not one has join the Military, in any shape of form.
This tough talk is typical of a rich, out of touch idiot who cares nothing about the lives of our service people(yes I have served) and of course you have scum like Hannity, Rush who has never served anything but their dollars they have made off of low information viewers.
willie lynch
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Jay
October 8th, 2012
1:31 pm
Jay,
What does it say about a populace who views Obama as having gotten creamed, when the guy who supposedly bested him completely reversed all his previous positions and out right lied about the others?
gm
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Amazing Mitt is tough on foreign affairs, but has 5 sons not one has join the Military, in any shape of form.
This tough talk is typical of a rich, out of touch idiot who cares nothing about the lives of our service people(yes I have served) and of course you have scum like Hannity, Rush who has never served anything but their dollars they have made off of low information viewers.
Jay
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Mick, all I can do is speak for myself, and as I noted here on the blog in real time, as the debate played out — Obama got beaten badly in my opinion.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Why are Bush and Romney chickenhawks but Obama is not?
How many soldiers have died in Afghanistan under Commander in Chief Obama?
What branch of the service was he in again?
Was he a Ranger or a SEAL?
josef
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
RETIRED SOLDIER
“Please take a minute and think, what would you do or feel like if someone came into your house and took over and want to force you to believe what they believe in”
No need to bring the Sons of Confederate Veterans in, the thread’s going nicely…
Look before I leap...
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Interesting to note re; Romney and his progeny’s miiltary participation:
Joe Kennedy Sr, among the 20 richest Americans at the time, lost 2 children during the war and his two oldest sons served in front line positions (Bomber pilot and PT Boat skipper).
Ole Joe may have been an asshat on many levels and his fortune of a somewhat questionable source, but when it came to war, his kids sure knew how to put up.
AmericaShrugged
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Romney almost caught Obama in the polls after the first debate. One more on foreign policy and Obama can start collecting those fat speaking engagement fees from all his Middle East friends.
RF
October 8th, 2012
1:41 pm
josef: see I think the Iranians may just end up turning on their own leadership soon if something doesn’t change. He’s a nutbasket for sure, but I don’t think he’s going to do much more than bark a lot and they’ll get tired of it. The result might be worse than what we have now, and that’s what worries me. What they’d do in the interim could create a real mess. That’s why I don’t like hearing either Israel or anyone here talk about attacking Iran right now. That would make Afghanistan look like nothing, in my opinion.
Jm
October 8th, 2012
1:41 pm
“USinUK – not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 8th, 2012
12:59 pm
“the pansy blogger ”
keeping it classy, as always …
LinkReport this comment”
Hypocrite alert!
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:42 pm
Russia is our number one enemy.
Our President is a terrorist sympathizer.
mitt’s foreign policy but subject to change at any time.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
1:43 pm
gm
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
He should force his sons to join the military?
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:43 pm
“Sorry, meant to say I am a “pansy markist””–Stands For Decibels
Well you have to give it to Stands.
He sure “knows who he is.”
You have to respect that.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
1:44 pm
M. Huggins — “Why are Bush and Romney chickenhawks but Obama is not?”
FWIW, I don’t believe Mr. Bush was a chickenhawk, but had a lot of staffers and advisors who were.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chickenhawk_(politics)
Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political term used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who actively avoided military service when of age.
The term indicates that the person in question is hypocritical for personally dodging a draft or otherwise shirking their duty to their country during a time of armed conflict while advocating that others do so. Generally, the implication is that chickenhawks lack the moral character to ask others to support, fight and perhaps die in an armed conflict. Those who avoid military service and continue to oppose armed aggression are not chickenhawks.
indigo
October 8th, 2012
1:45 pm
There is a possibility that Romney will get us in another war for two reasons:
1. Another war will keep the money flowing to the Military-Industrial-Complex and ensure a continuation of generous campaign contributions from them to the Republicans.
2. Another war might give Romney a chance to carry out some strange Mormon prophicies. After all, it’s been strongly rumored that G.W. Bush was carrying out Bible prophicies when he started the Iraq war.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:45 pm
“Did he really get creamed as that media line is pushed again?”–Mick
Surrounded by celebrities, Obama acknowledges poor debate performance
http://washingtonexaminer.com/surrounded-by-celebrities-obama-acknowledges-poor-debate-performance/article/2510091#.UHLBdk3A9B8
josef
October 8th, 2012
1:46 pm
RF
I agree with that…
ROCKERBABE
Oh, please, go and cut Breitbart…if you had any sense you’d be dangerous…
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:46 pm
AmericaShrugged
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Romney almost caught Obama in the polls after the first debate. One more on foreign policy and Obama can start collecting those fat speaking engagement fees from all his Middle East friends.
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Ya just can’t cure stupid………
Mick
October 8th, 2012
1:47 pm
jay
Yes, if you noticed, all the media was aligned in the conclusion that obama got thumped. I was wondering, what did I miss? Then afterwards, it made sense that obama had omitted some key comebacks in his defense, but as a whole, the most important information for me was how romney just was in favor of everything good, yet could not reasonably demonstrate how he was going cut waste and keep all the goodies – did not add up..
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:47 pm
USMC: Waited all DAY at Local 7 for you and you never showed up……….. I was gonna buy your beer…….
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
1:47 pm
Fred — “Ya just can’t cure stupid………”
The HURRRRRRR is strong with that one, isn’t it?
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
“Ya just can’t cure stupid………”–Fred Trademark
But, but, but…… that’s what RUSH LIMBAUGH told us to say, Fred!
redneckbluedog
October 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THE CULTIST…!!! HE KNOWS WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT…!!! He used to be able to see Nova Scotia from his Bain Capital high-rise…!!!
WE NEED MORE UN-FUNDED AND UN-NECESSARY WARS…AND WE NEED THEM NOW…!!!!
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
Yes, if you noticed, all the media was aligned in the conclusion that obama got thumped. I was wondering, what did I miss?
Mick: I don’t see how you could have watched that debate and NOT thought the President got an ass whooping. It was ugly.
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:48 pm
That 2 trillion increase will pay for a new war on the credit card.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:49 pm
“USMC: Waited all DAY at Local 7 for you and you never showed up……….. I was gonna buy your beer…….”
We got our signals mixed up. And I think I actually owe you a beer, Fred… the first beer that is.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:49 pm
Let’s trademark you USMC™ lol
gm
October 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Marty Huggins’
Five sons yet you advocate sending bombs and destroying other people lives and risk American lives, you never saw Obama siting on beach on vacation protesting the vietnam war.
This commander and chief has kept this country safe for 4 years, at least he had a grand father who served this country, theres is no one in Mitt family ever, ever served anything but making money.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Then I’ll make sure the first beer is a KEG.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
1:44 pm
Right so is Obama not a chickenhawk because the draft was no longer in place when he was 18?
Seems he still could have volunteered.
Especially since much of the criticism I have seen here today is about Romney’s sons.
There is not a draft now.
Do you think Malia Obama will be joining the service in July of ‘16?
Jay
October 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
Willie Lynch, it was Obama’s job to call Romney on all that, and for the most part he failed to do so. That’s not the moderator’s fault, it’s not the voters’ fault, it’s not the media’s fault.
It’s Obama’s fault.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
“Mick: I don’t see how you could have watched that debate and NOT thought the President got an ass whooping. It was ugly.”
Poor Mick, he lives in the Garden of Eden down there in South Florida where life is wonderful, and you become so comfortable that you begin to miss the obvious!
redneckbluedog
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
Marty Huggins’
October 8th, 2012
1:40 pm
Why are Bush and Romney chickenhawks but Obama is not?
How many soldiers have died in Afghanistan under Commander in Chief Obama?
What branch of the service was he in again?
Was he a Ranger or a SEAL?
===================================
Romney was in the French cultist-legion….
Bush was in the Alabama National Guard…Cheney was not in the military, but Harry Whittington said he could shoot pretty good….!!
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
mitt made “winning” debates a lot easier.
Just bully the moderator, tell lies and change positions.
It does not matter what you say.
Just look good doing it.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
Hell, even Sam Walton had at least one son go in the military. He was also a green beanie.
RF
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
“1. Another war will keep the money flowing to the Military-Industrial-Complex and ensure a continuation of generous campaign contributions from them to the Republicans.”
And lots of profit for the investors….a la Dick Cheney, for one. Privatization at its finest.
Mick
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
fred
First off, it’s not an athletic competition; second, I didn’t think obama was as effective in that format. Yes, romney was animated and raving but he was lying through his teeth. I’ll take the flat debater over the non truth teller any day of the week…
Regnad Kcin
October 8th, 2012
1:51 pm
“Yes, if you noticed, all the media was aligned in the conclusion that obama got thumped”
Sure haven’t heard the cons spreading the “liberal press” meme much lately. I guess they’ve become the “biased conservative press”.. Where, oh, where, are we going to get out unbiased news, now that the American press is obviously “in the bag” for Romney?
USMC
October 8th, 2012
1:52 pm
“Then I’ll make sure the first beer is a KEG.”
I figured that. At least we think alike in that regard!
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:53 pm
Especially since much of the criticism I have seen here today is about Romney’s sons.
Obama is trying to start to or three more wars like Romney is using the blood of other people’s children. What is so hard for you to figure out about that?
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
1:53 pm
Does Romney discuss apologizing for America as the cornerstone to his foriegn policy?
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:54 pm
Yes, romney was animated and raving but he was lying through his teeth.
Obama was lying too. They traded lies. Romney looked like he was channeling Bill Clinton and President Obama looked like he was channeling Helen Keller.
RF
October 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
Jay: I’ll give it to Romney on style- he whooped up with that. But on substance….not so much. The fact checking since has resulted in at least a flat line of support growth for him in the polls. Mitt’s problem is consistency and sustainability of message, and the next two debates will surely prove if style does, in fact, trump substance when it’s all said and done. I don’t worry so much about the first debate performance, because that’s all it was- performance. It will help keep the race close for the time being, but that ’s about all.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
1:53 pm
Does Romney discuss apologizing for America as the cornerstone to his foriegn policy?
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While the is no cure for stupid at least it’s not contagious. Here we have one doubling down…….
Mick
October 8th, 2012
1:55 pm
usmc
Well, it’s been raining a lot down here so maybe I’m a bit water logged but there is no substitute for the truth and romneyclaus came off as very disingenious to me. I guess I’m just a canadian at heart, in their polling 78% thought obama out did the mittsiah – go figure…
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:56 pm
Yeah, it easy debating a moving target.
Jordan77 (Marine Dad)
October 8th, 2012
1:56 pm
My son a US Marine first landed by helicopter on Afghanistan soil on September 11, 2010. When 9-11 happened he was eleven years old and his big interest was playing paintball with his friends. His best friend and roommate Gino was shot in the throat this past June and killed by a sniper. Gino was buried at Arlington cemetery and my son went to the funeral. Gino, my son and many of their fellow Marines joined almost 100% because of what happened on 911. In two weeks time my son returns to Afghanistan this time as a “grizzled” 22 year old Sargent. He leads a squad of Marines he himself trained. He tells me they are “ready” to fight. All I ask is before troops are committed to combat that it be absolutely necessary. Republican presidents always seem to want to rattle the “sabers”. I don’t trust Romney and my son and I support Obama.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
1:56 pm
M. Huggins — “Right so is Obama not a chickenhawk because the draft was no longer in place when he was 18? Seems he still could have volunteered.”
Are you asking me my opinion? If so, then yes, he certainly could have volunteered. Yet it seems to me that service alone isn’t the sole deciding factor in chickenhawkism — there also is an apparent desire or intention on chickenhawks’ part to start wars and conflicts. I’m not seeing that with President Obama.
“Especially since much of the criticism I have seen here today is about Romney’s sons. There is not a draft now.”
You must have missed the link I put up earlier. Here:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/questions-about-romneys-sons-and-military-service/
Romney seemed to be equating military service with a working on a political campaign. As a disabled veteran, I find that abosolutely inexcusable and reprehensible on Mr. Romney’s part.
“Do you think Malia Obama will be joining the service in July of ‘16?”
Don’t know. Then again, her dad isn’t pressing to start any wars AFAIK.
td
October 8th, 2012
1:58 pm
Jay,
You are incorrect about the Obama polling. Read the article below. The have it as a tied race as of today when you only look at post debate numbers. 5 point bounce for Romney.
Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win
By record-high margin, debate watchers say Romney did better
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ — Registered voters’ preferences for president are evenly split in the first three days of Gallup tracking since last Wednesday’s presidential debate. In the three days prior to the debate, Barack Obama had a five-percentage-point edge among registered voters.
Comparison of Registered Voters’ Presidential Preferences, Before and After First Presidential Debate, 2012
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157907/romney-narrows-vote-gap-historic-debate-win.aspx
RF
October 8th, 2012
1:58 pm
“Does Romney discuss apologizing for America as the cornerstone to his foriegn policy?”
Nah, it’s all about building ships and starting a few more unfunded wars. He’ll make up for the apologies by sending half the population over there to fight so the other half can stay here and listen to Rush broadcasts 24/7.
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
Fred….that’s all you got, good luck to you….
getalife
October 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
The “never mind” debate.
All style no substance.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
2:00 pm
gm
October 8th, 2012
1:50 pm
You think Malia will be signing up in 2016?
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
1:59 pm
Fred….that’s all you got, good luck to you….
++++++++++++++++++
I don’t need luck. I use reason logic and original thought. You post silly little talk radio lies and then high five yourself and scream mission accomplished. You add zero to the conversation.
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
RF….perhaps I missed something, where does Romney discuss starting new unfunded wars???
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
“Well, it’s been raining a lot down here so maybe I’m a bit water logged but there is no substitute for the truth and romneyclaus came off as very disingenious to me. I guess I’m just a canadian at heart, in their polling 78% thought obama out did the mittsiah – go figure…”
Well the Obama campaign had to go as far as Canada to poll some Eskimos to find a majority that thought the Oba(mao) won the debate.
You need to get up here to Atlanta and meet up with us for Beer and College Football, so you can feel like an American again! (jk)
Mick
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
Chickenhawk – look no further than the dick cheney, five military deferments during the vietnam war (other priorities, don’t you know)he had other priorities when he was needed but then un hesistant about sending other americans sons and daughters into the line of fire. Hall of shame winner and number uno chickenhawk, he defines the word completely…
getalife
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
Jordan77 (Marine Dad) ,
I hope this is his last
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
2:02 pm
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157907/romney-narrows-vote-gap-historic-debate-win.aspx
That was discussed at length two floors down.
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:02 pm
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
2:01 pm
RF….perhaps I missed something, where does Romney discuss starting new unfunded wars???
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
In his little foreign policy speech that is linked at the top of the page. You know, the part that you never read or listen too before you start posting bumper sticker lies……….
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
2:02 pm
Jordan77 — “His best friend and roommate Gino was shot in the throat this past June and killed by a sniper. Gino was buried at Arlington cemetery and my son went to the funeral.”
Please tell your son that I’m going to make a donation in Gino’s name to a veterans’ charity. I’m an atheist, so a prayer would be inappropriate IMO.
“In two weeks time my son returns to Afghanistan this time as a “grizzled” 22 year old Sargent. He leads a squad of Marines he himself trained. He tells me they are “ready” to fight. All I ask is before troops are committed to combat that it be absolutely necessary.”
I completely agree with you on that. And please also tell your son that a graybearded old Army vet is thinking good thoughts for him and his men, and that I hope that they all make it back home in one piece.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
“All style no substance”–Getalife
Yeah, Mark Richt is a nice man, but we need a new Coarch at Georgia!
Geaux Dawgs! (limp, limp)
.
RF
October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
@ Get Real: then why increase defense spending and build fifteen ships a year? Keeping our defense strong while not in a state of war generally is cheaper and would allow a defense spending cut. Sooooo, what then?
getalife
October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
Oops,
Jordan77 (Marine Dad) ,
I hope this is his last tour in Afghanistan and hope he stays safe.
Thank you.
Mick
October 8th, 2012
2:03 pm
usmc
Hey the dolphins are very scrappy this year, don’t drink beer, don’t sip chardonnay, but I do like crown…
Jefferson
October 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
Maybe big bird can borrow some money from his parents like Romney did.
Bill Orvis White
October 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
Since naive secular progressives and Librul Jay do not support the common sense Romney Doctrine, then they are all anti-Semites, pure and simple. “What? You’re crazy, Bill!” you fools are thinking. I say, yes, I am crazy. I’m crazy for the United States’ support of the Jewish state, the only democracy in the region. When anyone speaks out against the good policies that strengthen and protect Israel, then “he” is an anti-Semite, pure and simple. There is no room for argument here. You are either with Israel’s policies of staring down jihadists or you are not. No argument.
The United States NEEDS TO recapture its firm standing int he region that was well-known through the rightful Bush Doctrine. Since January 2009, King Hussein Obama has purposely soiled the sacred documents that comprises the rightful Bush Doctrine. It is well-known that this once-free nation is a joke in the Middle East. We need to get back to the strong policies contained in the Bush Doctrine which is now properly titled, The Romney Doctrine–which adheres to the strict constructs of The Constitution which clearly states that we have the right to protect our interests throughout the world. It is well known that the Hebrews are surrounded by jihadists who wish to push the only democracy into the sea. We need to stand with P.M. Binyomin Netanhayu to train American and Israeli Hebrews to fight the jihadism wherever it may exist.
Amen,
Bill
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
You think Malia will be signing up in 2016?
Ah a REAL MAN. A real tough Republican man. Attacks a little girl. How sweet. How typical.
getalife
October 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
USMC,
The good news is Drew Brees broke a record and the Saints finally won a game.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
You think Malia will be signing up in 2016?
It’s great that she has that ability if that is the course she choses. But lets be clear, there are many ways to serve this country. As we have seen, ambassadors and others may be killed in the line of duty. And of course, the military cannot function without the things built by all of us: roads, housing, equipment.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
1:56 pm
I didn’t miss the link. Already knew about it too.
I saw it as a stupid statement, but one by a parent defending their sons or making excuses for them.
I know I have said stupid things doing the same for my boys.
Obama has not vocally championed war. But his actions have.
How many sons and daughters have died in Afghanistan under his watch?
td
October 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
Ooops it looks like Obama is lying now:
“Last night, the Obama campaign blasted out another email claiming that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would either require raising taxes on the middle class or blowing a hole in the deficit. “Even the studies that Romney has cited to claim his plan adds up still show he would need to raise middle-class taxes,” said the Obama campaign press release. “In fact, Harvard economist Martin Feldstein and Princeton economist Harvey Rosen both concede that paying for Romney’s tax cuts would require large tax increases on families making between $100,000 and $200,000.”
But that’s not true. Princeton professor Harvey Rosen tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email that the Obama campaign is misrepresenting his paper on Romney’s tax plan:
I can’t tell exactly how the Obama campaign reached that characterization of my work. It might be that they assume that Governor Romney wants to keep the taxes from the Affordable Care Act in place, despite the fact that the Governor has called for its complete repeal. The main conclusion of my study is that under plausible assumptions, a proposal along the lines suggested by Governor Romney can both be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on taxpayers with incomes above $200,000 about the same. That is, an increase in the tax burden on lower and middle income individuals is not required in order to make the overall plan revenue neutral.
You can check the math that shows Romney’s plan is mathematically possible here.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:05 pm
“Chickenhawk – look no further than the dick cheney, five military deferments during the vietnam war (other priorities, don’t you know)he had other priorities when he was needed but then un hesistant about sending other americans sons and daughters into the line of fire. Hall of shame winner and number uno chickenhawk, he defines the word completely…”–MICK
What about BILL CLINTON, Mick? You can’t have it both ways…. oh wait!
Get Real
October 8th, 2012
2:06 pm
Fred…..so much hostility. Bottom line, you do not know me at all so you are the last person on earth to judge me… Get looser fitting shorts, it might make you less snarky….just a thought
RF
October 8th, 2012
2:07 pm
“Since naive secular progressives and Librul Jay do not support the common sense Romney Doctrine, then they are all anti-Semites, pure and simple.”
Well that might explain why the pastor looks at me funny on Sundays. Who knew you had to be a right-wing nutjob if you were Christian? Better tell the Methodists about that- they encourage a little more thinking in their midst.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:07 pm
More bad news for the Obama Campaign…
GALLUP: 5-POINT ROMNEY BOUNCE…
Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win
http://www.gallup.com/poll/157907/romney-narrows-vote-gap-historic-debate-win.aspx
getalife
October 8th, 2012
2:07 pm
USMC,
And we are sending your quarterback back to Georgia.
stands for decibels
October 8th, 2012
2:07 pm
Jordan77, thank you for your post. However:
I don’t trust Romney and my son and I support Obama.
I think you need a comma in that sentence!
USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)
October 8th, 2012
2:08 pm
“that sucker’s noisier than a Sonic Youth album.”
Jm
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Polls all over da map
Whatever
Janney
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Adam at 12:00
Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Ooops it looks like Obama is lying now:
Ooops, it looks like thrice posted drudgey spam.
AmericaShrugged
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Jordan77 – Ever think your son landed on Afgfhan soil because the current President Chjickenhawk sent 50,000 more troops into Afghanistan after campaign promising to send 5,000? Obama lied and our sons, friends and neighbors died – the ultimate chickenhawk.
Lee
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Jay,
Our “responsibility alone to protect Israel”…..No it is not. However it is our responsibility to stand with Israel and back them with support especially when being threatened with WMD’s.
Marty Huggins'
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:04 pm
Nobody is attacking her.
She will be 18 in 2016.
Many here have criticized Romney and his sons because they didn’t join.
Maybe you feel it is an attack to ask if someone is going to join the military in 4 years.
If so I was attacked a lot during my teen years.
Or are girls different to you?
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Wow Get Real. I don’t know you? Who the hell cares? What has that to do with anything? I respond to what you post HERE, not anything that requires any personal contact. I don’t “guess” I read your damn words, few that there are, and the talk radio bumper sticker phrases you post.
Calling you on your lies is ‘hostility?” Really? I don’t see it that way, but then I’m not a serial liar………
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:10 pm
“Hey the dolphins are very scrappy this year, don’t drink beer, don’t sip chardonnay, but I do like crown…”–Mick
Well even better. You can sip on some of Getalifes bottle of Crown that I am buying!
And getalife, I was pulling for your Bengal Tigers, but my Bulldogs hit a Tornado in SC, so it really didn’t matter.
Geaux Falcons!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
2:11 pm
M. Huggins — “I didn’t miss the link. Already knew about it too. I saw it as a stupid statement, but one by a parent defending their sons or making excuses for them. I know I have said stupid things doing the same for my boys.”
IMO, it’s not just stupid. I think that it trivializes military service by equating it with political volunteerism and personal self-aggrandizement. I think it further highlights and underlines the disconnect between Romney and average Americans.
Frankly, I’m glad he said it. It just foreshadowed the sorts of things that would eventually come out about him in the current election cycle.
“Obama has not vocally championed war. But his actions have.”
How so? What makes you think that?
“How many sons and daughters have died in Afghanistan under his watch?”
I’m sure you’re aware that he didn’t *start* the conflict in Afghanistan, and that he’s wound down our involvement in Iraq, as well as tried to disengage in Afghanistan — for which he’s been roundly criticized by Republicans.
What, exactly, would you have him do with respect to Afghanistan?
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:11 pm
Or are girls different to you?
Yes, little girls are MUCH different to me. They are to be protected and nurtured not attacked by message board asshats.
Unless something has changed, women aren’t allowed in Combat Arms so I’m not the only one who thinks so.
RF
October 8th, 2012
2:12 pm
“especially when being threatened with WMD’s.”
So THAT’S where those doggone things went after they were snuck out of Iraq!! I thought Syria had them. And all this time we thought that was just fiction…thanks for clearing that up.
USMC
October 8th, 2012
2:12 pm
“And we are sending your quarterback back to Georgia.”–getalife
I think his next stop is as an extra in a Porn Film… with that goofy looking “Cookie Duster” and all!
Jay
October 8th, 2012
2:12 pm
No, td, I have it correct:
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
That’s the latest number: Obama 50, Romney 45.
The numbers that you reference — which I too referenced this morning — did not include the latest numbers.
Gallup uses a seven-day rolling average, so the numbers cited this morning compared the three days before the debate to the three days after the debate. In the three days after the debate, the polling was tied.
The new, latest numbers suggest that the race is reverting back to its previous state, but they are based only on a day or two’s worth of data, so we’ll have to see if that trend holds.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 8th, 2012
2:12 pm
USMC — “What about BILL CLINTON, Mick? You can’t have it both ways…. oh wait!”
Y’all keep forgetting the *two* qualifiers for Chickenhawkdom.
1) Didn’t serve or sought to avoid service
2) Championed or pressed for war while in a position of authority
Fred ™
October 8th, 2012
2:12 pm
AmericaShrugged
October 8th, 2012
2:09 pm
Jordan77 – Ever think your son landed on Afgfhan soil because the current President Chjickenhawk sent 50,000 more troops into Afghanistan after campaign promising to send 5,000? Obama lied and our sons, friends and neighbors died – the ultimate chickenhawk.
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Another twisted troll lie. Now we are tripling down………..