Gallup: Debate loss erases Obama’s lead entirely

Morning inn Georgia. I thought this might well interest
you:http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_spectator/2012/10/is_the_republican_party_racist_how_the_racial_attitudes_of_southern_voters_bolster_its_chances_.html
Dunno why it isn’t highlighted..

• Link
• Report this comment

Mitt and Ryan seem to have both found their winning strategy–more bigger lies.

• Link
• Report this comment

meh – 538 says it wasn’t as great for Romney as everyone thinks:

Mitt Romney remains in a considerably stronger polling position than he was before last Wednesday’s debate in Denver. But the polls released on Sunday did not tell quite as optimistic a story for him as those in the debate’s immediate aftermath.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

• Link
• Report this comment

So, does Mitt’s snakeoil cure the gout too.

• Link
• Report this comment

“Do the conservatives believe these polls?”

• Link
• Report this comment

Maybe it has something to do with all the lies Money Boo Boo told…

What lies, exactly, are you referring to? It’s pretty easy to sit back and call someone a liar…without evidence…

• Link
• Report this comment

Here is another reason why he is going down in the polls. We cannot trust fuzzy numbers.

Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric (the former parent company of NBC News), set off a firestorm by insinuating that the administration manipulated the jobs numbers because they were so incredible.

• Link
• Report this comment

At his celebrity-rich fundraiser in CA last night Obama said *everyone here is incredible professionals.*

• Link
• Report this comment

The power of TeeVee. No
wonder the candidates
spend so much money
there.

• Link
• Report this comment

“What lies, exactly, are you referring to? It’s pretty easy to sit back and call someone a liar…without evidence…”

you want evidence?? here you go: Mitt Romney’s debate performance consisted of 27 myths within 38 minutes talk time.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/2012/10/05/mitt-romneys-debate-performance-consisted-of-27-myths-within-38-minutes-talk-time/

• Link
• Report this comment

If Mitt doesn’t win the
Presidency maybe he’ll
get an Emmy for best
actor in a special event.

• Link
• Report this comment

Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric (the former parent company of NBC News), set off a firestorm

He DID? why I had no idea! please tell us more, Johnny Zeitgeist!

• Link
• Report this comment

The only way he got a “bounce” was to deny the crazy GOP platform that he was running on.

• Link
• Report this comment

Hey, serious question for the media savvy here:

Anyone know why Team Obama has adverts on my TeeVee? I saw a few whilst watching the Division Series this weekend, and I thought, “well that’s kind of weird/a waste of money, targeting Georgians.”

Is it some decoy fake-out designed to get Mitt to waste more of his resources here? Or am I just not understanding how these ad buys go down, that if you pay for an ad package on certain cable/satellite channels (I was watching TBS/TNT on DirectTV) you wind up hitting everyone?

• Link
• Report this comment

Jay by the way did you see this devastating critique of the president’s performance by Bob Herbert, formerly of the NY Times?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-herbert/no-more-excuses_b_1941156.html?utm_hp_ref=tw%20

–

It’s time to stop making excuses for Barack Obama. With so much at stake in this election, his performance at the debate on Wednesday night was indefensible.

Ever since he was elected, there have been reasons offered, either publicly or privately, for why Obama has been unable to fully engage some of the nation’s most important challenges. Despite the rampant increase in poverty in the worst downturn since the Depression, Obama supporters whispered that he couldn’t do more for the poor and couldn’t speak out more forcefully on their behalf because that would not be politically advantageous. So nearly all of his economic initiatives had to be couched in language that referred to the middle class, even though the poor were being hurt far worse. LBJ could launch a war on poverty but not Barack Obama.

–

• Link
• Report this comment

stands: Not all people in Georgia are Georgians! Plus this tv market covers more than Georgia!

• Link
• Report this comment

Funny how anyone who questions an uptick of 6% in two months on the BLS report is suddenly a birther. Did you notice the unemployment rate on u6? Did you also notice the dramatic increase in Government employment? I am not stating there was any funny business on the side of the labor department, but anyone who puts stock in arbitrary household survey numbers needs to know about a bridge I have to sell.

• Link
• Report this comment

Well, it’s a link that doesn’t work to a Slate article by Ron Rosenbaum

sure it does
http://slate.me/UxO6gI

• Link
• Report this comment

Republicans are burned out on reality teevee shows. Mitt and Ryan’s star roles in new series about two liars on a journey along their yellowbrick road is the latest buzz.

• Link
• Report this comment

And yet, winning these “debates” is about as good an indicator of real competence as doing well on all these standardized tests our school children have to cram for.

We are really becoming an “all style, no substance” Nation.

• Link
• Report this comment

Look at the content of
Romney’s debate remarks
and then this poll and you
see the reason for the
axiom ‘ never underestimate
the stupidity of the public’.

• Link
• Report this comment

This debate had no winners. “Polls” are for people looking for excuses and Romney found one. This debate reminded me of 2 little children. One child (President Obama)follows directions and is respectful towards other people. The other child (Romney) is spoiled and will do anything to get attention no matter how they get it. As voters and parents how do we handle this situation? Do we praise and reward the child who follows directions and is respectful towards other people. Or do we punish the child who will do anything to get attention no matter how they get it.

I hope and pray most voters act like responsible parents and recognize the strengths and weaknesses of both children.

• Link
• Report this comment

This is fun watching you liberals heads spin trying to excuse the embarrassment Obama dealt you at the debate. Somebody call a waaaaambulance!

• Link
• Report this comment

Not usually subscribing to conspiracy theories, this one sounds interesting, even if not entirely plausible.
We know that incumbent presidents usually lose the first debate and we know that this incumbent held a pretty good lead in the polls before the first debate. We suspect that the media (especially the 24hr news stations) love a narrative that will keep viewership high. What if the president’s team decided to let up a little on the first debate so the media could have their underdog story and then the president with great showings in subsequent debates gave them the come-back story to maximize their viewership throughout the cycle? Then we realize they overdid it – lost too badly and now have more ground to make up than they intended.
What the hey? It’s a Monday.

• Link
• Report this comment

Thanks, stands. That’s pretty good too.

One more excellent take with a little historical perspective: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/10/201210775152685830.html?utm_content=automate&utm_campaign=Trial6&utm_source=NewSocialFlow&utm_term=plustweets&utm_medium=MasterAccount

• Link
• Report this comment

The November surprise is on its way….but, but, but…how can Romney lie so much while Obama and his minions are the most truthful administration ever….when you lie, you must lie again to cover up the original lie and then again. “I say, my administration will be the most transparent of any administration ever.” “Remember, I said transparent not truthful.”

• Link
• Report this comment

“Libs doing everything possible to avoid talking about obama’s record. ”

the hell we are …

economic growth over the last 2 years
positive job growth over the last 2 years
killed OBL
… and have you seen the DOW lately???

am I better off than I was 4 years ago? oh, HELL YES.

• Link
• Report this comment

There’s a nice alliteration to it. Can I use it as a verb? For example, Romney gish-galloped all over the President in the first debate.

• Link
• Report this comment

” Boy, when that Etch-A-Sketch got shook, I didn’t think it would shake a significant part of the population too”

when the spinless wonder is all they’ve got, they’ll prop him up as much as possible.

they called Kerry a flip-flopper, but he had NOTHING on Mittens.

• Link
• Report this comment

Thanks for the link, Two Parties. That concluding graf needs repeatin’:

Even as trickle-down economics has failed disastrously over the past 30-plus years, it has simultaneously become part of the fabric of elite thinking, making it virtually impossible to stand outside of it, and call out its deceptions in clear, unambiguous terms. Hence, anyone who does call out its deceptions in ordinary, non-professorial language, is by definition an outsider, a Rosa Parks, someone unserious whom none of us need pay attention to.

And yet, almost 60 years later, we all know that Rosa Parks was right.

• Link
• Report this comment

Well. I just think that obama got caught up in the fickle finger of fate; just waiting for the sequel and no drama obama to get it right. Especially after biden takes ryan to the woodshed…

• Link
• Report this comment

At last the American people have gotten a good look at the empty chair.

By all means, hang your hat on THAT talking point. It’s a wiener!

• Link
• Report this comment

In landmark election, Venezuelan voters see two futures

By Andrew Rosati, Contributor
posted October 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm EDT

Caracas, Venezuela
Venezuelans are casting ballots today in one of the most important elections of their lifetimes.

With their votes today, they will either keep their current president Hugo Chavez in power or elect the opposition candidate Henrique Capriles into office. Mr. Chavez has promised to forge forward with his “socialist revolution,” while Mr.Capriles has cast himself as a moderate who will maintain social safety nets for the poor but put Venezuela’s economy on more stable footing.

Surveys have varied wildly on who is poised to win today, but supporters of each side are convinced that they have the edge – and that their choice is the only viable option for Venezuela.

• Link
• Report this comment

Antoinette
You had me until i got
to the last word…

• Link
• Report this comment

Especially after biden takes ryan to the woodshed…

er… don’t be real surprised if Biden does a repeat of 2008, where he plays nice the whole way through.

Mind you, I’d love for Team Obama to let him get those big ol’ choppers into Ryan’s neck (figuratively speaking) but Biden will do as he’s told.

• Link
• Report this comment

Did you people make it to Caracas this weekend to cast your vote for Hugo? From the results, it looks like maybe you did.

• Link
• Report this comment

Wow seems to be a record number of sock puppets for so early in the morning. I thought Kylewas coming back today……..

• Link
• Report this comment

Let me make this quite clear in six words…I DON’T WANT ROMNEY AS PRESIDENT!!! As a person with a disability, Romney getting in as President is scary. He’ll run this country into the ground. In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up or someone impeachs that good for nothing liar, bully and racist!

• Link
• Report this comment

Some of the American people have woken up and smell the cat food, others will never wake up. Your messiah has no clothes on and it’s very alarming. Vote for the MORMON, they’re good folks.

• Link
• Report this comment

down – 8:49

And just who is this “you people” you keep refering to?

• Link
• Report this comment

Rasmussen has Romney 49%…. Bozo 47%. Seems that Romney, according to Rasmussen, has gained some ground in Florida, VA and Ohio. This isn’t over, liberals, even with your early voting edge and Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio. This clown will do anything to win.

• Link
• Report this comment

It’s “taking things out of context” taken to the extreme

“You didn’t build that”

• Link
• Report this comment

Paul Krugman:

“The U.S. economy is still far short of where it should be, and the job market has a long way to go before it makes up the ground lost in the Great Recession. But the employment data do suggest an economy that is slowly healing, an economy in which declining consumer debt burdens and a housing revival have finally put us on the road back to full employment.
And that’s the truth that the right can’t handle. The furor over Friday’s report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Mr. Obama that good news for the nation’s long-suffering workers drives its members into a blind rage. It also revealed a movement that lives in an intellectual bubble, dealing with uncomfortable reality — whether that reality involves polls or economic data — not just by denying the facts, but by spinning wild conspiracy theories.

It is, quite simply, frightening to think that a movement this deranged wields so much political power.”

• Link
• Report this comment

Mitt eloquently re-stated his position to you people in his constituency in the first debate with his rendition of “there’s a sucker born every minute.” Good show, Mitt.

• Link
• Report this comment

“As a person with a disability, Romney getting in as President is scary”

Yeah, there are a lot of people using disability as unemployment insurance since Obama made it easy to get disability benefits

If you can work but are falsely claiming disability, you probably do have cause for concern

It seems you can use a computer well enough to type, I wonder why you’re on disability…..

• Link
• Report this comment

So Americans consider the positions of the predebate Romney and they aren’t buying it. Romney goes into the debate and edges closer to sounding like Pres Obama and Americans think it sounds pretty good. Got it.

Article in the paper over the weekend dealt with Republicans rallying around Romney. Reporter pointed out all his past positions – prolife, healthcare, etc – that he’s changed and asked if that bothered them. Theme was “but he sounds good. He talks about God and Liberty and Patriotism and no Big Government so that other stuff doesn’t matter.”

He does know his audience, doesn’t he? Just like on this blog last week – how many Republicans did we see taking issue with the latest Romney Transformation?

• Link
• Report this comment

“It’s “taking things out of context” taken to the extreme

“You didn’t build that””

you know, I wsa going to post that, but I could just hear their defense … “that was DIFFRUNT!!”

• Link
• Report this comment

K 71

Do you read anything besides the Back of the box of Lucky Charms?

“Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio.”

And yellow stars and pink hearts and green shamrocks……

• Link
• Report this comment

“thinking Americans”

and yet, what’s the #1 criticism by GOPpers??? that we’re all educated elitists …

I wish they’d make up their mind

• Link
• Report this comment

So, Jay, I know you focus is on national and local issues, but any chance you have a take you’d care to share on the re-election of that big bugaboo of the American liberal establishment, the big awful socialist ‘dictator’ Chavez?

I’d be curious on your take.

• Link
• Report this comment

It seems you can use a computer well enough to type, I wonder why you’re on disability…..

jm at his finest. loser.

• Link
• Report this comment

Anonymous @ 8:50 am
In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada

Start packing and let us know where we can send your prepaid Greyhound ticket. Remember, if you talk the talk you better be ready to walk the walk!!!!

• Link
• Report this comment

USinUK

I just checked in over at drudgey and saw this:

Ruth Davidson, the Scottish Conservative leader, is to highlight official figures showing that only 283,080 households north of the border – 12 per cent of the total – pay more in tax than they receive in public services.

She will blame Alex Salmond, the SNP First Minister, and his Labour predecessors for nurturing a “corrosive sense of entitlement” among voters that has prevented her party making a comeback in Scotland.

Do y’all have Whole Foods over there in the UK?

Are there huge __________ ladies with grocery carts filled with steaks and lobster paying for it with food stamps and their __________ kids all wearing the latest Air Jordans talking on their iphones?

Are they then followed out to their Bentleys with the 30′ spinners?

• Link
• Report this comment

Taxpayer

The Internet and computer make it possible for most everyone to work if they have the willpower

For Pete’s sake, if Stephen Hawking can work, so can most Americans

I’m not advocating ending disability, but we shouldn’t be handing it out like lollipops either

• Link
• Report this comment

Paul: He does know his audience, doesn’t he? Just like on this blog last week – how many Republicans did we see taking issue with the latest Romney Transformation?

He’s playing them like a fiddle and they’re too obsessed with defeating Obama to see they’re getting played for fools.

• Link
• Report this comment

K71 – “The U6 numbers on unemployment are almost as bad as Georgia football.”

The U-6 has been around for as long as the BLS has been tracking labor statistics. I’m just curious as to why no one EVER quoted the U-6 prior to 2009?

• Link
• Report this comment

Enjoy Canada Taiwan. Nice place, but you won’t be missed.

• Link
• Report this comment

Anyone know why Team Obama has adverts on my TeeVee? I saw a few whilst watching the Division Series this weekend, and I thought, “well that’s kind of weird/a waste of money, targeting Georgians.”

stands for…,

What you’re seeing are the national slots during those broadcasts. When ad time is allocated on a national broadcast network some of it is local, but other slots are national.

• Link
• Report this comment

So, libs — Why didn’t Obama challenge Romney DURING the debate????

• Link
• Report this comment

Fred: “Is THAT the new talk radio tack? Focus on Chavez? Gearing up for another unfunded republican war? We gonna invade South America this time?”

No, this is something you’ll probably hear next to nothing about as there is almost total agreement on Chavez between the two parties and throughout the entire media establishment: they universally despise him. So, as with other issues the parties are in lockstep agreement on, you won’t hear too much other than some sniffs and snide dismissals about the ‘takers’ and deluded masses of Venezuela not knowing any better. Funny how the US mainstream press will deride the “47% takers” remarks of Mitt Romney and then turn around and suggest the same basic thing when it sees results elsewhere that it doesn’t like.

• Link
• Report this comment

kayaker 71

“Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio.”

I’m beginning to doubt you were ever in the military, let alone the rank you claim. else you’d know the Ohio case was not about the traditional absentee voter policies or about, residency vs location regarding voting. You would know it was about early voting and you’d know a federal judge issued an injunction denying modifying the early voting rules to give special privileges to military members.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/military.asp

• Link
• Report this comment

I’m not advocating ending disability, but we shouldn’t be handing it out like lollipops either

Meanwhile, jm, you toss out the bull like the free lollipops without even giving your own words a second thought.

• Link
• Report this comment

Obama is an empty suit

You saw the real Obama during the debate

And he sux

• Link
• Report this comment

Butch, 9:08,

“Prior to 2009?”……. Seems like the numbers were somewhat better then. Except for a brief time in 1980 due to Carter’s bungling of the economy, the numbers have been well below 8%. We have been closer, if you take the highs and lows, to a traditional 5%, through Reagan, Ford, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. And, in recent political history, we have never had unemployment at so high a percentage that lasted so long.

• Link
• Report this comment

Biden Takes 6 Days Off Campaign Trail to Prep for Debate…

drudgey spam

• Link
• Report this comment

kayaker

One last point to show you don’t have a clue as to what you’re talking about, how did that Ohio law affect military votes overseas? Given that overseas voters usually vote by absentee ballot, how did that law affect them when the law gave military three extra days of IN PERSON voting? Talk about peddling stupidity down Main Street….

• Link
• Report this comment

I posted this earlier…

Karl is tipping his Klan hood and saying “nicely done!”

and ya know, that’s a really stupid thing to post even in jest. My apologies.

• Link
• Report this comment

Why didn’t Obama challenge Romney DURING the debate????

Why should President Obama be confronted with a scenario where he must remind his opponent repeatedly that he should not be telling lies in order to “win” the moment. President Obama has enough of that crap to contend with when dealing with Iran’s leaders, etc. Mitt should be honest. He should set a good example for his children and for his constituency.

• Link
• Report this comment

Let’s see Obama speak extemporaneously

Oh wait, he doesn’t do that. Well, anyway.

• Link
• Report this comment

It’s far too expensive to do that on an NBC/ABC type so if you see them there it’ll probably be very late in the race or someone has gone daft and run local spots for no apparent reason.

Yep.

Now, if you could explain why Henry Repeating Arms keeps running all those ads on MSNBC, I’m going to have to elevate you to Most High Pundit Poobah status.

(mind you, I love the ads, myself…)

• Link
• Report this comment

I’m buying as much stock in Tide as I can afford. Liberals have been wetting their beds all over America since that debate shellacking.

• Link
• Report this comment

I know this is likely a losing effort for those who need it the most, but here’s an article about how the unemployment numbers are calculated, why it can seemingly conflict with the jobs numbers and all about what a great, grand conspiracy it is to benefit the incumbent (okay, so that last bit was sarcasm).

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/10/05/4314835/how-the-government-compiles-the.html#

I’m guessing there’s a group on our blog who won’t read it. Care to guess which group that is?

• Link
• Report this comment

From: robert brown
To: Robert Brown
Sent: Mon, October 8, 2012 9:20:53 AM
Subject:

Here’s some good data showing the growing rolls of the disability crowd. The welfare crowd knows this is the golden ticket. Get on the list, stay on the list. Get the cash and a parking space up front everywhere you go. All it takes is 1 doctor to sign the papers and I’d bet if you look at the doctor who signed the papers in evey geographical area, you’ll find they’re all taking the same path of least resistance. You’ll notice this trend actually started when Clinton’s welfare reform went into effect and has steadily risen since then. http://news.investors.com/business/042012-608418-ssdi-disability-rolls-skyrocket-under-obama.htm?p=full

As with everything else, liberals refuse to separate the people in true need of disability protection from those scamming the system. They don’t seem to notice the food stamp crowd is obese and put 2 and 2 together. Here’s a tip, libs, there is no such thing as “big boned”. They’re FAT. And they aren’t getting that way because they don’t have enough to eat. The debate over the science on that issue ended a long time ago.

• Link
• Report this comment

Pretty sad that the new Axelrod talking points are to call the opposition liars rather than present a positive platform for the next four years- really classy. And exactly which Romney are you accusing of lying- the caraciture created by the Obama team for the past year or the Romney Obama confronted on the debate? Obama has started to believe his own BS. You can quote unnamed liberal economists all day long, but that will not be an excuse for Obama’s mediocre record.

• Link
• Report this comment

The Romney debate lies:

11) “What we do have right now is a setting where I’d like to bring money from overseas back to this country.” Romney’s plan to shift the country to a territorial tax system would allow corporations to do business and make profits overseas without ever being taxed on it in the United States. This encourages American companies to invest abroad and could cost the country up to 800,000 jobs.

ThinkProgress

• Link
• Report this comment

Woodstock Mike, try to learn how to read quotation marks in a sentence. It really helps reading comprehension.

• Link
• Report this comment

Last week, according to the Republicans, polls were not to be believed — obviously skewed! Watch them latch on to this poll like a drowning man on a floatation device.

• Link
• Report this comment

Obama is now soliciting campaign contributions from overseas, a clear violation of law!

• Link
• Report this comment

I knew a Robert Brown at the company where I worked many years ago. I think he lived in Gwinnett. Did you get a little carried away with your post, rb.

• Link
• Report this comment

DownInAlbany

“Obama is now soliciting campaign contributions from overseas, a clear violation of law!”

Welcome to the blog. But, if you don’t want to get lumped in with all those who, as Granny Godzilla put it, get their information from the back of Lucky Charms boxes, you’ll find it advantageous to provide a bit more background and a link to show where you got your information. If it’s a place you can’t link, like Rush’s radio show, it’s okay to just say so.

• Link
• Report this comment

Finn, 9:33,

I like this one better ……… “This Health Care Plan will only cost the American taxpayer 940B dollars”.

• Link
• Report this comment

K71 – “Seems like the numbers were somewhat better then.”

I see, the U-6 only matters when you disagree with the stats. Gotcha.

• Link
• Report this comment

By the way ………. I can’t believe you posted something from “Drudgey”.

Kammie will be all upset !

• Link
• Report this comment

DownInAlbany

October 8th, 2012
9:33 am

Obama is now soliciting campaign contributions from overseas, a clear violation of law!
++++++++++++++++++++

I’m sure you just *forgot* to post us a link to this little gem. But you’ll correct that immediately, right?

• Link
• Report this comment

Ok, Paul…I’m not very techo-savvy….http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/08/claim-obama-campaign-illegally-solicited-foreign-donors-via-social-media-website/

• Link
• Report this comment

Paul, I have read this thread many times and do not see this documentation. In fact, many here are saying Romney lied in the debate yet I see no supporting links.

• Link
• Report this comment

Well, if the Mittster wins, perhaps he can get Paul Broun with some of his illustrious pearls of wisdom to help out with things. He can rewrite history (or just ignore parts of it).

• Link
• Report this comment

anony mouse wrote, in part:
I DON’T WANT ROMNEY AS PRESIDENT!!! As a person with a disability, (snipped)
I’m moving to Canada…..

No you’re not…..moving to Canada….
Even young, healthy, educated/skilled workers have difficulty trying to emigrate there.
Good luck finding any country willing to take you, unless you have a big $ta$h in the bank.

• Link
• Report this comment

Question for all of the Repubs on the blog…Why do ALL Republicans feel like they must out talk or get the last word in even when they know that they are wrong?

Example.

Weatherman:
The weather calls for a 100% chance of rain today.

Republican:
That can not be true. When Ronald Reagan was President, it never rained on Mondays.

Weatherman:
How can you say that when it has been raining all morning and there is a flash flood warning?

Republican:
That can not be true. When Ronald Reagan was President, it never rained on Mondays.

• Link
• Report this comment

Whole lotta liberal frustration goin’ on here. Hope fist fights don’t break out.

• Link
• Report this comment

bob

October 8th, 2012
9:39 am

Paul, I have read this thread many times and do not see this documentation. In fact, many here are saying Romney lied in the debate yet I see no supporting links.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Actually there have been several. Brocephus posted a great video of Romney “debating himself.” It shows a clip of Romeny saying one thing in the debate followed by his “original” position from earlier speeches. It’s quite funny. If you google Romney debate lies you’ll find many links. I got this one from googling debate lies……

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/06/1140747/-Four-of-Romney-s-big-debate-lies-in-one-nbsp-video

• Link
• Report this comment

Below is “PROOF” the lies being told about the butt whipping Onama took last week are being told by Obama, not Romney.

Princeton Economist: Obama Campaign Is Misrepresenting My Study on Romney’s Tax Plan
8:45 AM, Oct 8, 2012 • By JOHN MCCORMACK

Last night, the Obama campaign blasted out another email claiming that Mitt Romney’s tax plan would either require raising taxes on the middle class or blowing a hole in the deficit. “Even the studies that Romney has cited to claim his plan adds up still show he would need to raise middle-class taxes,” said the Obama campaign press release. “In fact, Harvard economist Martin Feldstein and Princeton economist Harvey Rosen both concede that paying for Romney’s tax cuts would require large tax increases on families making between $100,000 and $200,000.”

But that’s not true. Princeton professor Harvey Rosen tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD in an email that the Obama campaign is misrepresenting his paper on Romney’s tax plan:

“I can’t tell exactly how the Obama campaign reached that characterization of my work. It might be that they assume that Governor Romney wants to keep the taxes from the Affordable Care Act in place, despite the fact that the Governor has called for its complete repeal. The main conclusion of my study is that under plausible assumptions, a proposal along the lines suggested by Governor Romney can both be revenue neutral and keep the net tax burden on taxpayers with incomes above $200,000 about the same. That is, an increase in the tax burden on lower and middle income individuals is not required in order to make the overall plan revenue neutral.”

• Link
• Report this comment

Our President had to make an ad on mitt going crazy after the Libya attack because that dang liberal media refuses to talk about it.

The media is doing a great job for romney and the gop.

• Link
• Report this comment

Yeah our President ran away from his tax plan and told nothing but lies too Fred.

What ever, it worked for romney.

• Link
• Report this comment

bob

make ” changing of a fact ” read “changing of a position”

• Link
• Report this comment

Looks like the Americans that have not made up their minds yet will wait until the election to decide so the polls right before the election will show who will win.

• Link
• Report this comment

All of this is support of a prez that supported a trillion dollar stimulus for millions of shovel-ready jobs only to chuckle later about there is no such thing as shovel-ready jobs. Or who continues to lie about how Stevens was killed and the lack of security and his refusal to provide additional security.

• Link
• Report this comment

SHEETS!

• Link
• Report this comment

donovan

So you love mitt and think he has the answers to all that ails us? Go ahead and believe in him when you know damn well that his numbers just don’t add up. After the conclusion of the last republican president, I’ll take steady growth and the stock marker rising, that’s the real indicator of yours or mines wealth, we are all tied to it one way or another and I’ll stick with the current president. Romney’s debate performance is so overhyped, what did he have to lose? He was losing very badly before the debate and there are two more…

• Link
• Report this comment

kam

PILLOWS!

• Link
• Report this comment

@ Fred Well now we know who listens to Hannipie cause I sure as hell don’t. Hey face it dude, you backed the wrong horse.

• Link
• Report this comment

Fred @ 9:46

You’re starting to rub off on me. Only time will tell if that’s a good thing for me or not.

• Link
• Report this comment

I am sure all have noticed how the Obama administration chooses to re-name problems rather than solve the problems. The examples are numerous. When their reign began they wanted all terrorist attacks to be renamed as “over seas incidents” there by reducing terrorism on their watch. Apparently they think if they don’t call an attack on us by terrorists terrorism then its not. They also refuse to use the word Muslim when refering to our enemies expecting us to believe we are under assault by Methodists or fundamental christians what ever that is or anything but Muslims. The most egregious recent example is the terrorist attack by Muslims on our consulate in Libya that resulted in the murder of four of our citizens including our ambassador. The Obama administration flat out lied calling it a “demonstration.” (We now know our inept administration was hiding its own stupidity because it had been previously warned of the attack and the Libyan ambassador had ask for additional security prior to the attack which had been denied by our state department.) I suppose by the administration’s definition of the “terrorist attack” our soldiers in Afghanistan are not engaged in combat but are merely controlling “demonstrations.” I would suppose that had this administration reigned on 9/11 when the twin towers and the pentagon were attacked by Muslims, Obama would have called it an “arial demonstration’. The terrorist attack at Fort Hood resulting the multiple deaths of our soldiers has from day one been referred by this administration as a “work place incident” even to the point that our soldiers have been refused Purple Heart commendations. Amazing. So the very people that can’t even tell ther truth about our most serious threats to our security try to paint Mitt Romney as a liar! Don’t make me laugh. The Obama administration doesn’t know what the meaning of the word “truth” is.

• Link
• Report this comment

Only a fool would want four more years like the last four years!

• Link
• Report this comment

Obama – Hugo — same direction for each country??

Uh maybe, maybe not. But whatever works with the rubes.

• Link
• Report this comment

Technically they aren’t lies until Romney actually takes office and doesn’t do what he says he will. Say like Obama who promised to cut the deficit in half and actually doubled it. Made a big deal about having the healthcare debate on C-Span and told McCain, “The campaign is over John” when he called him on it. Well, here are a few more for your reading pleasure.

“Now, what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.”

“If we see money being misspent, we’re going to put a stop to it, and we will call it out and we will publicize it.“

“I want to go line by line through every item in the Federal budget and eliminate programs that don’t work, and make sure that those that do work work better and cheaper.”

“Instead of allowing lobbyists to slip big corporate tax breaks into bills during the dead of night, we will make sure every single tax break and earmark is available to every American online.”

“We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’s seniority, rather than the merit of the project.”

“If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.”

“Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe the United States has to be frank with the Chinese about such failings and will press them to respect human rights.”

“Lobbyists won’t work in my White House!“

“I’ll make oil companies like Exxon pay a tax on their windfall profits, and we’ll use the money to help families pay for their skyrocketing energy costs and other bills.”

. “Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” .

A special one on the 100th day, “The first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first thing I’d do.

• Link
• Report this comment

Only a fool would want four more years like the last four years!

BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!

BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!

BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!

• Link
• Report this comment

Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
9:45 am

In fact, many here are saying Romney lied in the debate yet I see no supporting links.
++++++
Poltifact ruled 3 statements by Obama and 5 by Romney as false or mostly false. If you include half-trues as lies then it was 6-6.

I forgot to say this is from the debate.

• Link
• Report this comment

So many lies, so little time:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html

• Link
• Report this comment

Anonymous- In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up or someone impeachs that good for nothing liar, bully and racist!

Please beat the rush and go now. Just make sure you go thru the proper channels be cause Canada is drowning under the wait of illegal aliens (Americans).

• Link
• Report this comment

But it’s how Romney wins debates that should matter the most, Jay. In short, he lies. He creates his own facts while simultaneously claiming that it’s his opponent doing this, not him, and it’s very effective, especially when he then adds something like “you’re not entitled to your own facts.”

But like in the Republican primary, his opponents get so bewildered at trying to win a debate in the severely dishonest but newly minted Mitt-wondrous land of Oz, that they end up losing, also like happened with our president.

There is a way to win, of course; and in my opinion, President Clinton had the best advice when he said on debating Mitt Romney to “just go at him” with the real truth and not let up till you’ve won.

That’s a big chore, of course, for Romney’s lies are both legendary and legion, and even his staff has to run around trying to correct things he says. But like I’ve mentioned before, we all can help; and making it clear what a liar Mitt is may be the very best way of all!

• Link
• Report this comment