Gallup: Debate loss erases Obama’s lead entirely
How badly did President Obama lose the first presidential debate?
Gallup says 72 percent of those who watched the debate believed that Romney had won; just 20 percent sided with Obama. In fact, “Romney’s 52-point win is the largest Gallup has measured. The prior largest margin was 42 points for Bill Clinton over George H.W. Bush in the 1992 town hall debate.”
But here’s the most important thing:
In its three days of polling prior to the debate, Gallup found Obama with a consistent four-to-six point lead. In the three after the debate, Gallup found them even. Historically, debates aren’t supposed to shift the polls to such a degree, but historically, that was a whupping the likes of which we hadn’t seen before.
– Jay Bookman
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Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes
October 8th, 2012
10:09 am
Mick
DUVET COVERS!
TBone
October 8th, 2012
10:13 am
@ Fred Well now we know who listens to Hannipie cause I sure as hell don’t. Hey face it dude, you backed the wrong horse.
Moderate Line
October 8th, 2012
10:15 am
I always tell my kids never leave an answer blank. Obama left the answer blank and Romney won by default.
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
10:16 am
Fred @ 9:46
You’re starting to rub off on me. Only time will tell if that’s a good thing for me or not.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
10:18 am
Fred: “There ya go sport. So why do YOU insist on talking about a non issue, that asshat Chavez? just engaging in your talk radio/FOX news practice of slinging poo against a wall to see what sticks?”
Why do you think?
Because I’m in opposition to the dank and musty consensus between the two parties as much as I am against the rank and foul lies of the FOX news right, which now makes up the core of the hard-right Republican party.
Mighty Righty
October 8th, 2012
10:22 am
I am sure all have noticed how the Obama administration chooses to re-name problems rather than solve the problems. The examples are numerous. When their reign began they wanted all terrorist attacks to be renamed as “over seas incidents” there by reducing terrorism on their watch. Apparently they think if they don’t call an attack on us by terrorists terrorism then its not. They also refuse to use the word Muslim when refering to our enemies expecting us to believe we are under assault by Methodists or fundamental christians what ever that is or anything but Muslims. The most egregious recent example is the terrorist attack by Muslims on our consulate in Libya that resulted in the murder of four of our citizens including our ambassador. The Obama administration flat out lied calling it a “demonstration.” (We now know our inept administration was hiding its own stupidity because it had been previously warned of the attack and the Libyan ambassador had ask for additional security prior to the attack which had been denied by our state department.) I suppose by the administration’s definition of the “terrorist attack” our soldiers in Afghanistan are not engaged in combat but are merely controlling “demonstrations.” I would suppose that had this administration reigned on 9/11 when the twin towers and the pentagon were attacked by Muslims, Obama would have called it an “arial demonstration’. The terrorist attack at Fort Hood resulting the multiple deaths of our soldiers has from day one been referred by this administration as a “work place incident” even to the point that our soldiers have been refused Purple Heart commendations. Amazing. So the very people that can’t even tell ther truth about our most serious threats to our security try to paint Mitt Romney as a liar! Don’t make me laugh. The Obama administration doesn’t know what the meaning of the word “truth” is.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
10:24 am
Fred:
Or, to put it slightly differently, I’ll bet you are in perfect lockstep with the mainstream liberal consensus of the major editorial boards like the New York Times who think it’s just terrible that the poor Venezuelan people didn’t know any better and re-elected the big mean socialist Hugo Chavez.
Am I right, Fred?
Mr Right
October 8th, 2012
10:25 am
Only a fool would want four more years like the last four years!
Johnjay
October 8th, 2012
10:25 am
It is difficult to criticize Romney on his positions, as he’s had every possible position on every issue at one time or another. He’s even had multiple positions on the same issue within a 24 hour period. In fact, the only thing consistent about Romney has been that he’s a slippery little devil who’ll say anything to get elected. I realize that there are people who hate Obama – a subset of which hate him because of his political positions – but, he does have a record that’s out there for all to see, so he can’t just flip-flop like a dying fish on every issue. Maybe you don’t like that unemployment has consistently gone down under Obama (we were losing 800,000 jobs a month at the end of Bush2’s reign), and maybe you don’t like that the Dow Jones Industrial Avg. has gone up over 60% under Obama (it lost 25% under our last Rep. pres.). I can see that there are anti-success people out there who want to go back to Rove’s ideas and will vote for his current puppet, Mitt. As for the rest of us, we’ll vote for Obama.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
10:27 am
Obama – Hugo — same direction for each country??
Uh maybe, maybe not. But whatever works with the rubes.
Joseph
October 8th, 2012
10:36 am
Wow Jay you sure didn’t want to talk about this long…. After the debate whoppin I guess you can get your excuse’s ready for Biden now because its a given Ryan is gonna ‘put him in chains’.
Kimmer
October 8th, 2012
10:37 am
Technically they aren’t lies until Romney actually takes office and doesn’t do what he says he will. Say like Obama who promised to cut the deficit in half and actually doubled it. Made a big deal about having the healthcare debate on C-Span and told McCain, “The campaign is over John” when he called him on it. Well, here are a few more for your reading pleasure.
“Now, what I’ve done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut.”
“If we see money being misspent, we’re going to put a stop to it, and we will call it out and we will publicize it.“
“I want to go line by line through every item in the Federal budget and eliminate programs that don’t work, and make sure that those that do work work better and cheaper.”
“Instead of allowing lobbyists to slip big corporate tax breaks into bills during the dead of night, we will make sure every single tax break and earmark is available to every American online.”
“We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’s seniority, rather than the merit of the project.”
“If your family earns less than $250,000 a year, you will not see your taxes increased a single dime. I repeat: not one single dime.”
“Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe the United States has to be frank with the Chinese about such failings and will press them to respect human rights.”
“Lobbyists won’t work in my White House!“
“I’ll make oil companies like Exxon pay a tax on their windfall profits, and we’ll use the money to help families pay for their skyrocketing energy costs and other bills.”
. “Obama will not sign any non-emergency bill without giving the American public an opportunity to review and comment on the White House website for five days.” .
A special one on the 100th day, “The first thing I’d do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act. That’s the first thing I’d do.
Mighty Righty
October 8th, 2012
10:42 am
Funny how the “most intelligent, most articulate, greatest president in american history” couldn’t come up with a cogent, truthful answer in opposition to Mitt Romney’s asertions during the debate. This was particularly strange because the subject was Obamanomics of which one would think the president would at least have a working knowledge. Prior to the debate we thought Obama’s 57 state gaffe was just a slip of the tongue. Perhaps not! Without a speech writer and without a teleprompter the president was less than oridinary. Obama should do better next time as he will not be cornered by having to hide his Marxist beliefs.
JamVet
October 8th, 2012
10:48 am
Only a fool would want four more years like the last four years!
BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!
BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!
BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!
Moderate Line
October 8th, 2012
10:49 am
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
9:45 am
In fact, many here are saying Romney lied in the debate yet I see no supporting links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20
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Both lied. To complain you lost because one side lied is comical when both sides hapitually lie. Also, poltifact has identified 119 statements by Obama which are mostly false or worse. Romney is no better with 79 such statements. Neither side is paragon ov virtue when it comes to truth.
Romney
Poltifact ruled 3 statements by Obama and 5 by Romney as false or mostly false. If you include half-trues as lies then it was 6-6.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/oct/03/fact-checking-denver-presidential-debate/
Moderate Line
October 8th, 2012
10:51 am
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
9:45 am
In fact, many here are saying Romney lied in the debate yet I see no supporting links.
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Poltifact ruled 3 statements by Obama and 5 by Romney as false or mostly false. If you include half-trues as lies then it was 6-6.
I forgot to say this is from the debate.
Moderate Line
October 8th, 2012
11:03 am
Brosephus™
October 8th, 2012
8:55 am
Taking 3 word snippets from statements or reports to say Romney is a bad guy
Well, one doesn’t have to shorten it to 3 words to make it effective.
===
Again, Politfact has identified has identified 119 mostly false or worse statements by Obama. In the debate BOTH candidates made false statements.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/
Southern Pride
October 8th, 2012
11:28 am
So many lies, so little time:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/princeton-economist-obama-campaign-misrepresenting-my-study-romneys-tax-plan_653917.html
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 8th, 2012
11:33 am
Mighty Righty: “Funny how the “most intelligent, most articulate, greatest president in american history”
I’ve never considered him to be the “most articulate” or “most intelligent” president. But then again, I’m not a liberal.
JKL2
October 8th, 2012
11:55 am
Anonymous- In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up or someone impeachs that good for nothing liar, bully and racist!
Please beat the rush and go now. Just make sure you go thru the proper channels be cause Canada is drowning under the wait of illegal aliens (Americans).
JKL2
October 8th, 2012
11:57 am
jamvet- BRING BACK GEORGE & DICK!
Burn any good books lately?
Tom Middleton
October 8th, 2012
1:13 pm
But it’s how Romney wins debates that should matter the most, Jay. In short, he lies. He creates his own facts while simultaneously claiming that it’s his opponent doing this, not him, and it’s very effective, especially when he then adds something like “you’re not entitled to your own facts.”
But like in the Republican primary, his opponents get so bewildered at trying to win a debate in the severely dishonest but newly minted Mitt-wondrous land of Oz, that they end up losing, also like happened with our president.
There is a way to win, of course; and in my opinion, President Clinton had the best advice when he said on debating Mitt Romney to “just go at him” with the real truth and not let up till you’ve won.
That’s a big chore, of course, for Romney’s lies are both legendary and legion, and even his staff has to run around trying to correct things he says. But like I’ve mentioned before, we all can help; and making it clear what a liar Mitt is may be the very best way of all!
TBone
October 8th, 2012
1:41 pm
@ Tom Middleton I am sure glad that you straightened us out about who was telling the unadulterated truth the other night and who was the BIG FAT LIAR, LIAR PANTS ON FIRE! Thank you so much.