Gallup: Debate loss erases Obama’s lead entirely

How badly did President Obama lose the first presidential debate?

Gallup says 72 percent of those who watched the debate believed that Romney had won; just 20 percent sided with Obama. In fact, “Romney’s 52-point win is the largest Gallup has measured. The prior largest margin was 42 points for Bill Clinton over George H.W. Bush in the 1992 town hall debate.”

But here’s the most important thing:

t8ahhh-ho0sosuaddjw0ya

In its three days of polling prior to the debate, Gallup found Obama with a consistent four-to-six point lead. In the three after the debate, Gallup found them even. Historically, debates aren’t supposed to shift the polls to such a degree, but historically, that was a whupping the likes of which we hadn’t seen before.

– Jay Bookman

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facts will prevail...

October 8th, 2012
7:36 am

Hopefully President Obama will be back on top after the next debate. It is hard to have a debate when your opponent changes his stance in the middle of the game. Mitt Romney, how can you trust him if he does not trust his own words??

theintelligentdesigner

October 8th, 2012
7:36 am

Morning inn Georgia. I thought this might well interest
you:http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_spectator/2012/10/is_the_republican_party_racist_how_the_racial_attitudes_of_southern_voters_bolster_its_chances_.html
Dunno why it isn’t highlighted..

Rightwing Troll

October 8th, 2012
7:36 am

Considering the (alleged) “a$$ whippin” Obama took, it’s amazing that’s all the boost Money Boo Boo got.

Maybe it has something to do with all the lies Money Boo Boo told… confidence and demeanor carried the night, but the next morning belonged to the internets and google…

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
7:38 am

Mitt and Ryan seem to have both found their winning strategy–more bigger lies.

theintelligentdesigner

October 8th, 2012
7:38 am

Well, it’s a link that doesn’t work to a Slate article by Ron Rosenbaum about the Ole South and it’s fine ladies and gentlemen. How Romney is guaranteed 100 electoral votes.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
7:38 am

meh – 538 says it wasn’t as great for Romney as everyone thinks:

Mitt Romney remains in a considerably stronger polling position than he was before last Wednesday’s debate in Denver. But the polls released on Sunday did not tell quite as optimistic a story for him as those in the debate’s immediate aftermath.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Mormon Missionaries Taught NOT to Tell The Truth

October 8th, 2012
7:39 am

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
7:40 am

So, does Mitt’s snakeoil cure the gout too.

theintelligentdesigner

October 8th, 2012
7:41 am

Do the conservatives believe these polls?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
7:42 am

“Do the conservatives believe these polls?”

:lol:

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
7:48 am

Well, it’s Gallup, the place with the 2.5% GOP house effect.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/calculating-house-effects-of-polling-firms/

Let’s not get too carried away here.

(mind you, I check Gallup all the time, because I think it’s a useful resource for trendlines, but they consistently understate Obama’s approvals and suchlike compared to most every other pollster.)

DownInAlbany

October 8th, 2012
7:49 am

Maybe it has something to do with all the lies Money Boo Boo told…

What lies, exactly, are you referring to? It’s pretty easy to sit back and call someone a liar…without evidence…

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 8th, 2012
7:49 am

but but but …skewed polls……

Ken

October 8th, 2012
7:50 am

Here is another reason why he is going down in the polls. We cannot trust fuzzy numbers.

Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric (the former parent company of NBC News), set off a firestorm by insinuating that the administration manipulated the jobs numbers because they were so incredible.

Doggone/GA

October 8th, 2012
7:52 am

“Here is another reason why he is going down in the polls. We cannot trust fuzzy numbers”

That is SO last week. You need to make a greater effort to keep up

weetamoe

October 8th, 2012
7:53 am

At his celebrity-rich fundraiser in CA last night Obama said *everyone here is incredible professionals.*

Mike

October 8th, 2012
7:53 am

Romney is the snake oil salesman selling sunshine & rainbows but once you buy the product you find out its the same old thing as Dumbya….a empty suit trying to make inept conservative philosophy work…it never has and never does…..and all but the 1% suffer for it.

barking frog

October 8th, 2012
7:54 am

The power of TeeVee. No
wonder the candidates
spend so much money
there.

Jay

October 8th, 2012
7:54 am

As Dorothy would say:

Birthers, skewers and jobbers, oh my.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
7:56 am

“What lies, exactly, are you referring to? It’s pretty easy to sit back and call someone a liar…without evidence…”

you want evidence?? here you go: Mitt Romney’s debate performance consisted of 27 myths within 38 minutes talk time.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/2012/10/05/mitt-romneys-debate-performance-consisted-of-27-myths-within-38-minutes-talk-time/

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
7:58 am

538 says it wasn’t as great for Romney as everyone thinks

That’s not quite my take-away from Nate these past few days. his latest post (from last night) goes into a fair amount of detail as to why he thinks his own model has been a bit slow to pick up on Romney’s polling.

Of course that’s why I like Nate; he’s the only polling analyst I know who will take pains to let people know what numbers HE’s posting, that you shouldn’t take too seriously.

There’s no doubt that Mitt’s helped himself of late. I don’t think it’s anywhere near enough to turn Ohio his way this month, and without Ohio he’s basically screwed, but [insert wussy qualifier here.]

barking frog

October 8th, 2012
7:58 am

If Mitt doesn’t win the
Presidency maybe he’ll
get an Emmy for best
actor in a special event.

DownInAlbany

October 8th, 2012
7:59 am

Defend and deflect, defend and deflect. And, thanks, Jay for setting the tone with your juvenile name calling…that’s about the best you people have, isn’t it?

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
7:59 am

Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric (the former parent company of NBC News), set off a firestorm

He DID? why I had no idea! please tell us more, Johnny Zeitgeist!

Road Scholar

October 8th, 2012
8:00 am

And Jack Welch “welched” on his comments later! He tried to distance himself from them. See a pattern?

DowninAlbany: Here is a source:

Romney Told 27 Myths in 38 Minutes
By Igor Volsky, ThinkProgress
04 October 12

Mike

October 8th, 2012
8:01 am

The only way he got a “bounce” was to deny the crazy GOP platform that he was running on.

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 8th, 2012
8:01 am

Anybody doubting the importance of modern mass communications and the way the common man and woman take their cues about what to believe should look at this swing. It’s phenomenal.

But in all fairness to the mass man of our modern societies, who isn’t so much able to think as to move in response to various stimuli, the performance of Barack Obama was so pathetic that a person could be fully justified in being completely won over by the sheer bravado and chutzpah of Mitt Romney’s intellectual corruption. There was a boldness to it, a breathtaking barefacedness, that quite frankly even a radical like me could appreciate.

Maybe Mitt Romney really is the better of these two sorry excuses for candidates for the job.

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:03 am

Hey, serious question for the media savvy here:

Anyone know why Team Obama has adverts on my TeeVee? I saw a few whilst watching the Division Series this weekend, and I thought, “well that’s kind of weird/a waste of money, targeting Georgians.”

Is it some decoy fake-out designed to get Mitt to waste more of his resources here? Or am I just not understanding how these ad buys go down, that if you pay for an ad package on certain cable/satellite channels (I was watching TBS/TNT on DirectTV) you wind up hitting everyone?

Road Scholar

October 8th, 2012
8:04 am

USinUK: Damn you’re good! Hope you have a great day! I have to go to a meeting…. keep all in line!

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 8th, 2012
8:04 am

Jay by the way did you see this devastating critique of the president’s performance by Bob Herbert, formerly of the NY Times?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-herbert/no-more-excuses_b_1941156.html?utm_hp_ref=tw%20

It’s time to stop making excuses for Barack Obama. With so much at stake in this election, his performance at the debate on Wednesday night was indefensible.

Ever since he was elected, there have been reasons offered, either publicly or privately, for why Obama has been unable to fully engage some of the nation’s most important challenges. Despite the rampant increase in poverty in the worst downturn since the Depression, Obama supporters whispered that he couldn’t do more for the poor and couldn’t speak out more forcefully on their behalf because that would not be politically advantageous. So nearly all of his economic initiatives had to be couched in language that referred to the middle class, even though the poor were being hurt far worse. LBJ could launch a war on poverty but not Barack Obama.

Normal Free...Pro Human Rights Thug...And liking it!

October 8th, 2012
8:04 am

Two parties,

Mitt Romney did well and looked well because lairs always do well while attacking. I don’t believe that will happen again…just sayin’

Road Scholar

October 8th, 2012
8:05 am

stands: Not all people in Georgia are Georgians! Plus this tv market covers more than Georgia!

killerj

October 8th, 2012
8:07 am

Anybody want a beer? go tea party.

Jhunt163

October 8th, 2012
8:08 am

Funny how anyone who questions an uptick of 6% in two months on the BLS report is suddenly a birther. Did you notice the unemployment rate on u6? Did you also notice the dramatic increase in Government employment? I am not stating there was any funny business on the side of the labor department, but anyone who puts stock in arbitrary household survey numbers needs to know about a bridge I have to sell.

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:09 am

Two Parties @ 8.04, I love Bob Herbert, but if you want a truly devastating critique, accept no substitutes:

Obama may have done more to depress voter turnout than all the i.d. laws combined. No, it probably didn’t change a lot of minds on who we support. But it sure as [all get-out] wasn’t inspiring. We like our candidates to be willing to show off their moves. Someone needs to get all Mickey Goldmill on Obama’s ass. Romney repeatedly called President Obama a liar without being called on it. That’s demoralizing [stuff], right there. Dude, you have facts on your side. Use them with clarity and conciseness. Fight, mother[fornicator]. Get off the ropes and get your footing and punch back. Or the country’s going down for the count.

Tundra Dude

October 8th, 2012
8:09 am

Well, it’s a link that doesn’t work to a Slate article by Ron Rosenbaum

sure it does
http://slate.me/UxO6gI

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:11 am

Plus this tv market covers more than Georgia!

Yeah, it gets Ala-frickin’-bama and Tenne-frickin’-see…

sorry, I don’t get this ad buy. I enjoyed seeing the ad, mind you–I like how he went all Rove and attacked Romney for his debate performance; somewhere, Karl is tipping his Klan hood and saying “nicely done!”

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:11 am

Republicans are burned out on reality teevee shows. Mitt and Ryan’s star roles in new series about two liars on a journey along their yellowbrick road is the latest buzz.

Jay

October 8th, 2012
8:11 am

” I am not stating there was any funny business on the side of the labor department,”

Then what ARE you stating?

indigo

October 8th, 2012
8:12 am

And yet, winning these “debates” is about as good an indicator of real competence as doing well on all these standardized tests our school children have to cram for.

We are really becoming an “all style, no substance” Nation.

Jhunt163

October 8th, 2012
8:14 am

Yeah, ok Jay your are right the unemployment rate is 7.8% and things are really looking up. Wonder what things will be like next month when it doesn’t include a household survey that was the largest number in 19 years.

barking frog

October 8th, 2012
8:14 am

Look at the content of
Romney’s debate remarks
and then this poll and you
see the reason for the
axiom ‘ never underestimate
the stupidity of the public’.

Tundra Dude

October 8th, 2012
8:19 am

ken:
Here is another reason why he is going down in the polls. We cannot trust fuzzy numbers.
Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric…..

Oh, right, Jack Welsh, the “Master Chef”

GE’s Jack Welch Knows About Cooking the Books
http://bit.ly/QXPHJy

Robert

October 8th, 2012
8:22 am

This debate had no winners. “Polls” are for people looking for excuses and Romney found one. This debate reminded me of 2 little children. One child (President Obama)follows directions and is respectful towards other people. The other child (Romney) is spoiled and will do anything to get attention no matter how they get it. As voters and parents how do we handle this situation? Do we praise and reward the child who follows directions and is respectful towards other people. Or do we punish the child who will do anything to get attention no matter how they get it.

I hope and pray most voters act like responsible parents and recognize the strengths and weaknesses of both children.

Brosephus™

October 8th, 2012
8:22 am

Then what ARE you stating?

He’s screaming, “I’M A JOBBER. HEAR ME ROAR!!!”

RB from Gwinnett

October 8th, 2012
8:23 am

This is fun watching you liberals heads spin trying to excuse the embarrassment Obama dealt you at the debate. Somebody call a waaaaambulance!

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:26 am

“He’s screaming, “I’M A JOBBER. HEAR ME ROAR!!!””

roar???

not so much

Classic Conservative

October 8th, 2012
8:26 am

Not usually subscribing to conspiracy theories, this one sounds interesting, even if not entirely plausible.
We know that incumbent presidents usually lose the first debate and we know that this incumbent held a pretty good lead in the polls before the first debate. We suspect that the media (especially the 24hr news stations) love a narrative that will keep viewership high. What if the president’s team decided to let up a little on the first debate so the media could have their underdog story and then the president with great showings in subsequent debates gave them the come-back story to maximize their viewership throughout the cycle? Then we realize they overdid it – lost too badly and now have more ground to make up than they intended.
What the hey? It’s a Monday.

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:27 am

Cons are clearly not embarrassed by Mitt’s presentation of more bigger lies and his subsequent “win” based on his willingness to say anything that gets him a vote. Lyin’ Ryan is certainly the perfect running mate for the Mitt.

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 8th, 2012
8:27 am

JKL2

October 8th, 2012
8:30 am

Libs doing everything possible to avoid talking about obama’s record. When you can’t compete in the arena of ideas, go for the character assassination. What lies is Mitt Robme going to tell today?

Vote obama: You were dumb enough to fall for it last time!

eddy

October 8th, 2012
8:30 am

The November surprise is on its way….but, but, but…how can Romney lie so much while Obama and his minions are the most truthful administration ever….when you lie, you must lie again to cover up the original lie and then again. “I say, my administration will be the most transparent of any administration ever.” “Remember, I said transparent not truthful.”

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:33 am

Two words to describe Romney’s performance in the debates:

Gish Gallop

The Gish Gallop, named after creationist Duane Gish, is the debating technique of drowning the opponent in such a torrent of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer every falsehood in real time.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:34 am

“Libs doing everything possible to avoid talking about obama’s record. ”

the hell we are …

economic growth over the last 2 years
positive job growth over the last 2 years
killed OBL
… and have you seen the DOW lately???

am I better off than I was 4 years ago? oh, HELL YES.

Brosephus™

October 8th, 2012
8:35 am

Funny that these hardcore conservatives are here defending the ultimate RINO. I guess the hatred for all things Obama will cause the most conservative conservative back a RINO. Boy, when that Etch-A-Sketch got shook, I didn’t think it would shake a significant part of the population too.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Classic Conservative

October 8th, 2012
8:36 am

There’s a nice alliteration to it. Can I use it as a verb? For example, Romney gish-galloped all over the President in the first debate.

Whirled Peas

October 8th, 2012
8:36 am

At last the American people have gotten a good look at the empty chair. A look that not even the main stream biased press could defend against.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:37 am

” Boy, when that Etch-A-Sketch got shook, I didn’t think it would shake a significant part of the population too”

when the spinless wonder is all they’ve got, they’ll prop him up as much as possible.

they called Kerry a flip-flopper, but he had NOTHING on Mittens.

Macon Voter

October 8th, 2012
8:39 am

When obama was 6 points ahead “WE WINNING!” Now that he’s behind. “Oh, these polls are just too fuzzy.” Save time. Pack now.

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:39 am

Thanks for the link, Two Parties. That concluding graf needs repeatin’:

Even as trickle-down economics has failed disastrously over the past 30-plus years, it has simultaneously become part of the fabric of elite thinking, making it virtually impossible to stand outside of it, and call out its deceptions in clear, unambiguous terms. Hence, anyone who does call out its deceptions in ordinary, non-professorial language, is by definition an outsider, a Rosa Parks, someone unserious whom none of us need pay attention to.

And yet, almost 60 years later, we all know that Rosa Parks was right.

Fred ™

October 8th, 2012
8:40 am

What lies, exactly, are you referring to? It’s pretty easy to sit back and call someone a liar…without evidence…

Wow. Really? The lies have been well documented. If you have your head so far up your rear end so as not to hear the truth how can we help you? But then you are probably a talk radio listener so separating fact from fiction isn’t your strong suit.

Mick

October 8th, 2012
8:40 am

Well. I just think that obama got caught up in the fickle finger of fate; just waiting for the sequel and no drama obama to get it right. Especially after biden takes ryan to the woodshed…

Antoinette

October 8th, 2012
8:41 am

Mitt Romney did very well in the debate with President Obama. You could see how insulated the President has become and how shocked he was that his opponent was not this right-wing, woman-hating, millionaire-serving, snake oil salesman that he and his party were trying to pretend he was. Repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it true. If you keeping screaming liar, liar…you must also have the facts to back it up. In this case, it was clear that Obama had nothing more than taunts and rederick.

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:41 am

At last the American people have gotten a good look at the empty chair.

By all means, hang your hat on THAT talking point. It’s a wiener!

kayaker 71

October 8th, 2012
8:41 am

The U6 numbers on unemployment are almost as bad as Georgia football. Can’t see how anyone could ignore the truth about unemployment. Seems like we have an actual figure closer to 14.7% and have had for some time now….. can you say 43 mos? We add only 114K jobs in Sept yet have a drop to 7.8% in the jobless. And you expect any thinking American to buy this?

Obama - Hugo -- same direction for each country??

October 8th, 2012
8:41 am

In landmark election, Venezuelan voters see two futures

By Andrew Rosati, Contributor
posted October 7, 2012 at 5:14 pm EDT

Caracas, Venezuela
Venezuelans are casting ballots today in one of the most important elections of their lifetimes.

With their votes today, they will either keep their current president Hugo Chavez in power or elect the opposition candidate Henrique Capriles into office. Mr. Chavez has promised to forge forward with his “socialist revolution,” while Mr.Capriles has cast himself as a moderate who will maintain social safety nets for the poor but put Venezuela’s economy on more stable footing.

Surveys have varied wildly on who is poised to win today, but supporters of each side are convinced that they have the edge – and that their choice is the only viable option for Venezuela.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:43 am

“The U6 numbers on unemployment are almost as bad as Georgia football.”

I love how the right discovers U6 when the other team is in office …

barking frog

October 8th, 2012
8:43 am

Antoinette
You had me until i got
to the last word…

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 8th, 2012
8:44 am

It appears that defeating Obama at any cost is what is most important to the conned. They’ll ignore Mitt’s flips, flops and lies and even claim him when he shows his RINO stripes.

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:44 am

Especially after biden takes ryan to the woodshed…

er… don’t be real surprised if Biden does a repeat of 2008, where he plays nice the whole way through.

Mind you, I’d love for Team Obama to let him get those big ol’ choppers into Ryan’s neck (figuratively speaking) but Biden will do as he’s told.

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:45 am

Mitt just did not denigrate the Republicans in that 47% eloquently enough on hidden camera. Everything’s all right now though because he was more eloquent once he knew he was being recorded before his voting audience. :lol:

DownInAlbany

October 8th, 2012
8:49 am

Did you people make it to Caracas this weekend to cast your vote for Hugo? From the results, it looks like maybe you did.

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:49 am

And you expect any thinking American to buy this?

Meanwhile, back on the ranch, the conned yearn for a return to trickle down and skittle-producing Laffer Curves and the next exciting episode of Ryan’s Yellowbrick Roadmap.

Fred ™

October 8th, 2012
8:49 am

Wow seems to be a record number of sock puppets for so early in the morning. I thought Kylewas coming back today……..

Jm

October 8th, 2012
8:50 am

Obama will regain a lead until the next debate

Obama is running some pretty misleading ads down in FL now

Taking 3 word snippets from statements or reports to say Romney is a bad guy

It’s “taking things out of context” taken to the extreme

Anonymous

October 8th, 2012
8:50 am

Let me make this quite clear in six words…I DON’T WANT ROMNEY AS PRESIDENT!!! As a person with a disability, Romney getting in as President is scary. He’ll run this country into the ground. In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up or someone impeachs that good for nothing liar, bully and racist!

Classic Conservative

October 8th, 2012
8:51 am

Why do we as a society, attach to candidates possessing a boringness, solemnity, pomposity, complacency, smugness, and self-righteousness, all of which are hallmarks of the Victorian character when, in our own lives, we tend toward the flightful, spirited, “oops, did I just do that? ha. ha.” character? We take risks, (maxing a credit card, plucking a grape from the produce bin) say, “oh, well” then travel on.
But then so many attach to politicians like Gingrey, Price, Romney, Ryan. Why?

TBone

October 8th, 2012
8:52 am

Some of the American people have woken up and smell the cat food, others will never wake up. Your messiah has no clothes on and it’s very alarming. Vote for the MORMON, they’re good folks.

Brosephus™

October 8th, 2012
8:52 am

Two Parties @ 8:27

Appreciate that link. I called a poster out for supporting a candiate that made lying part of his platform, and as par for the course, the poster shifted goalposts. Your link puts that lie out in black-and-white for anybody with a pulse to see.

“I will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income Americans,” Romney said in the debate. But even as he spoke, his website still touted his plan to cut marginal rates by 20 per cent – a monumental amount of savings for those at the top, which would necessarily have to end up hurting those who make less, be they poor or middle class.

Romney’s big lie about his tax-cut plan is actually composed of several different lies, all tied together. But the central lie was outed by MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell, a former Senate budget staffer, who knows this territory the way that seasoned professionals do.

Yet, the point he made should be obvious to anyone: when you propose a tax-cut, the size of the tax-cut is the size of the tax-cut. In his exact words, “The tax cut is measured by how much revenue you will cut from tax collection. That’s what – that’s how the tax cut is described.”

When you propose ways to off-set the cut, seeking to minimise or eliminate its impact on the budget, those are ways of paying for the tax-cut, which O’Donnell notes, are “a whole separate section of the legislation”.They do not magically turn the tax cut into not a tax cut. They are policies, not pixie dust.

I tried telling the poster that dropping rates 20% IS a tax cut, regardless to what you do to pay for them. As I said earlier, I am amazed at how much of our population got shook. We live in an Etch-A-Sketch nation.

indigo

October 8th, 2012
8:53 am

down – 8:49

And just who is this “you people” you keep refering to?

stands for decibels

October 8th, 2012
8:54 am

if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up

curiously, I hear there’s an airline that’s running an ad campaign appealing to just those sentiments (in a non-partisan fashion, of course).

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/lifestyle/2012/10/jetblue-will-fly-upset-voters-out-of-the-country/

kayaker 71

October 8th, 2012
8:54 am

Rasmussen has Romney 49%…. Bozo 47%. Seems that Romney, according to Rasmussen, has gained some ground in Florida, VA and Ohio. This isn’t over, liberals, even with your early voting edge and Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio. This clown will do anything to win.

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:54 am

” In fact if he becomes President, I’m moving to Canada and staying there until his 4-8 years are up”

ohfercryingoutloud … seriously???

Kamchak ~ Thug from the Steppes

October 8th, 2012
8:55 am

It’s “taking things out of context” taken to the extreme

“You didn’t build that”

Brosephus™

October 8th, 2012
8:55 am

Taking 3 word snippets from statements or reports to say Romney is a bad guy

Well, one doesn’t have to shorten it to 3 words to make it effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgfzknYd20

Steve

October 8th, 2012
8:55 am

Paul Krugman:

“The U.S. economy is still far short of where it should be, and the job market has a long way to go before it makes up the ground lost in the Great Recession. But the employment data do suggest an economy that is slowly healing, an economy in which declining consumer debt burdens and a housing revival have finally put us on the road back to full employment.
And that’s the truth that the right can’t handle. The furor over Friday’s report revealed a political movement that is rooting for American failure, so obsessed with taking down Mr. Obama that good news for the nation’s long-suffering workers drives its members into a blind rage. It also revealed a movement that lives in an intellectual bubble, dealing with uncomfortable reality — whether that reality involves polls or economic data — not just by denying the facts, but by spinning wild conspiracy theories.

It is, quite simply, frightening to think that a movement this deranged wields so much political power.”

DownInAlbany

October 8th, 2012
8:55 am

Apparently, Joe Biden is taking 6 days off, at a critcal time in the campaign. Is it to prepare for the debate on Thursday or simply to keep him out of the public eye for as long as possible? I’m thinking the latter. Unfortunately for the Dems, it eliminates at least one of their excuses for his performance come Friday morning.

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:55 am

Mitt eloquently re-stated his position to you people in his constituency in the first debate with his rendition of “there’s a sucker born every minute.” Good show, Mitt.

Brosephus™

October 8th, 2012
8:56 am

Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio.

Do you have a quota for lies, or do you just wing it day by day?

Jm

October 8th, 2012
8:58 am

“As a person with a disability, Romney getting in as President is scary”

Yeah, there are a lot of people using disability as unemployment insurance since Obama made it easy to get disability benefits

If you can work but are falsely claiming disability, you probably do have cause for concern

It seems you can use a computer well enough to type, I wonder why you’re on disability…..

TaxPayer

October 8th, 2012
8:58 am

That kayaker. Always clowning around and still expecting to be taken seriously. This just in from kayakerland: Mitt wins debate against Ronald McDonald. Mitt said “tastes great” while Ronald argued for “less filling” and the crowd in kayakerland roared. Good for him.

Paul

October 8th, 2012
8:59 am

So Americans consider the positions of the predebate Romney and they aren’t buying it. Romney goes into the debate and edges closer to sounding like Pres Obama and Americans think it sounds pretty good. Got it.

Article in the paper over the weekend dealt with Republicans rallying around Romney. Reporter pointed out all his past positions – prolife, healthcare, etc – that he’s changed and asked if that bothered them. Theme was “but he sounds good. He talks about God and Liberty and Patriotism and no Big Government so that other stuff doesn’t matter.”

He does know his audience, doesn’t he? Just like on this blog last week – how many Republicans did we see taking issue with the latest Romney Transformation?

Fred ™

October 8th, 2012
8:59 am

TBone

October 8th, 2012
8:52 am

Some of the American people have woken up and smell the cat food, others will never wake up. Your messiah has no clothes on and it’s very alarming. Vote for the MORMON, they’re good folks.
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We know what Sean Hannity has to say, thanks for repeating him, but have YOU any original thoughts to convey?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
8:59 am

“It’s “taking things out of context” taken to the extreme

“You didn’t build that””

you know, I wsa going to post that, but I could just hear their defense … “that was DIFFRUNT!!”

RB from Gwinnett

October 8th, 2012
8:59 am

Kayaker71, they aren’t counting on thinking Americans to buy it, they’re counting on liberals.

Granny Godzilla - Union Thugette

October 8th, 2012
9:01 am

K 71

Do you read anything besides the Back of the box of Lucky Charms?

“Bozo trying to suppress the military vote by not allowing them to extend their time to vote in Ohio.”

And yellow stars and pink hearts and green shamrocks……

mm

October 8th, 2012
9:02 am

When is the so called liberal media going to quit covering for Romney and call him out for his 27 lies in 38 minutes?

USinUK - not very ladylike (and former Girl Scout)

October 8th, 2012
9:02 am

“thinking Americans”

:lol:

and yet, what’s the #1 criticism by GOPpers??? that we’re all educated elitists …

I wish they’d make up their mind

Goldie

October 8th, 2012
9:02 am

Ouch — Dems gotta show up in Nov.! :)

Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)

October 8th, 2012
9:02 am

So, Jay, I know you focus is on national and local issues, but any chance you have a take you’d care to share on the re-election of that big bugaboo of the American liberal establishment, the big awful socialist ‘dictator’ Chavez?

I’d be curious on your take.