Paul Broun: Evolution, Big Bang theory ‘lies straight from pit of hell’
To the rest of the country, this may come as a bit of a surprise. To those of us in Georgia, not so much.
From the AP:
ATHENS, Ga. — Georgia Rep. Paul Broun said in videotaped remarks that evolution, embryology and the Big Bang theory are “lies straight from the pit of hell” meant to convince people that they do not need a savior.
The Republican lawmaker made those comments during a speech Sept. 27 at a sportsman’s banquet at Liberty Baptist Church in Hartwell. Broun, a medical doctor, is running for re-election in November unopposed by Democrats.
“God’s word is true,” Broun said, according to a video posted on the church’s website. “I’ve come to understand that. All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of hell. And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who are taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”
The quote comes at 34:50 in the video above, in which Broun first recounts his exploits as a big-game trophy hunter. Later, he witnesses for Christ and tells his own personal story of finding salvation at a moment of crisis. Personally, I think a more telling moment comes a little earlier, when he tells the audience that pastors of other, more mainstream Christian denominations “are going to send their people to hell” because in his opinion, they do not stress a personal relationship with their savior.
Broun, who is a physician by training, sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. I think it’s important to stress that the setting for his remarks is religious in character rather than political.
– Jay Bookman
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Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
@Hiram
As long as man exists, there will be some form of religion, It is inevitable.
We are a species endowed with the ability to self-reflect and as a consequence, we have developed an id and an ego. Ultimately, one is forced to ask why they are here? What is the purpose for my existence. The thought that we simply the by-product of some random protein chains is unsettling.
And religion evolved from multi-theistic to mono-theistic and perhaps will morph over time into nano-theistic or other some such thing.
The ultimate personal irony for me is that I find it MUCH easier to conceive of God in the absence of organized religion.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
A statement.
By someone not without influence in our nation’s politics.
—
I get so damn sick and tired of listening to the little guy, the vulnerable, the veteran — I am a veteran, and the seniors and this and this and this and the meanwhile this country is headed for second-class status while everybody just babbles into the vapor.
–
Wonder how “Christian” Rep. Broun would consider that statement to be.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
A politician telling others they are going to hell is an SNL skit.
TM
October 6th, 2012
8:22 pm
“” they look worse out of context than in the full context.” And who was responsible for quoting them out of context rather than in full context?????
barking frog
October 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
Keep up
Well you don’t want to
blame the bad stuff on
God.
hiram
October 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
@jay
I yield. I might as well be arguing with a stump. If religion caused no harm, it would be different. The problem is, it causes great harm to every human on earth, not to mention every other living thing.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
8:24 pm
“If you take God you have to take Satan. Why?”
Assuming “taking” God is another way of saying you believe in His existence, it does not necessarily follow that you believe in the existence of Satan. That is primarily a biblical claim.
Doggone/GA
October 6th, 2012
8:29 pm
“Religion is nature’s way of controlling the population”
Nature has nothing to do with it. It’s MAN’S way of controlling the population. Just look at how many religions, sects, etc. say you should have a PERSONAL relationship with their particular deity…and then set up rules and regulations, beliefs and practices that control how you interact with that deity. What’s PERSONAL about that?
Jay
October 6th, 2012
8:30 pm
Hiram, the damage done by religion is clear, as are its benefits. I take the approach that with religion, like any institution, you try to minimize the harm and maximize the good.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 6th, 2012
8:30 pm
Frog, perhaps we ought to blame failure on the evils of humankind. http://science.discovery.com/tv/through-the-wormhole/episodes/season-three/can-we-eliminate-evil.html
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
8:30 pm
“I yield. I might as well be arguing with a stump. If religion caused no harm, it would be different. The problem is, it causes great harm to every human on earth, not to mention every other living thing.”
Let me help you understand why you are embarrassing yourself, bud (by mindlessly parroting the arguments of other people). Stalin and Mao Tse-tung were both atheists who instituted anti-religious programs and policies. Do you know how many deaths they are responsible for? Hmm? Do you think you have to be religious to harm others? Let’s see you defend that assertion. I’ll be waiting…
getalife
October 6th, 2012
8:31 pm
Is worshiping money and the wealthy a religion because that is what the gop are doing in Washington.
If you are going to have your religion in politics, abide by it and set a good example for the people.
Rich Orwell
October 6th, 2012
8:31 pm
The dinosaurs disappeared in the VelociRapture.
hiram
October 6th, 2012
8:32 pm
@ look
“We are a species endowed with the ability to self-reflect and as a consequence, we have developed an id and an ego. Ultimately, one is forced to ask why they are here?”
You may be forced to ask “why are we here?” No one has ever had the answer to that question. I don’t feel a need to either make one up, or believe what someone else made up. I can accept the fact that I came from the same place as that dead possum on the side of the road, and I will go to the same place it goes to when I die, and so will you and everyone else, no matter what you imagine. What you imagine and what is real are two different things. Sane people know the difference.
TM
October 6th, 2012
8:35 pm
Oh and Jay congrats on taming the Purple Wildcats today.
0311/8541/5811/1811/1801
October 6th, 2012
8:35 pm
No one person on earth has all of the answers to science.
I do know this:
“You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ ”
John 3:7
Doggone/GA
October 6th, 2012
8:36 pm
“I hate to inform you, but, they are irreconcilable”
Well…I haven’t had any trouble reconciling them So, no, they are NOT irreconcilable.
Doggone/GA
October 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
” If religion caused no harm, it would be different”
Religion is like guns. Religion doesn’t cause harm, PEOPLE CAUSE HARM.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
8:37 pm
“Oh and Jay congrats on taming the Purple Wildcats today.”
Amen.
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 6th, 2012
8:38 pm
getalife: “Is worshiping money and the wealthy a religion because that is what the gop are doing in Washington.”
I don’t have to get behind a pulpit to say:
The ideology of the Republican party makes a mockery of, and is the most total perversion of anything that can possibly be imagined as going under the name “Christian”.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
8:40 pm
Now, just as Jay “highlighted” the excesses of a Republican politician, it is very easy to likewise “highlight” the excesses of those who support the Democratic party – like, say, “Snoopdog”:
http://v103.cbslocal.com/2012/10/05/snoop-dogg-mitt-romney-is-a-morman-with-no-hoes-and-other-musings/
or the excesses of someone like Harry Reid, which the Democratic party has inexplicably elevated to Senate majority leader.
hiram
October 6th, 2012
8:41 pm
@jay
“Hiram, the damage done by religion is clear, as are its benefits. I take the approach that with religion, like any institution, you try to minimize the harm and maximize the good.”
The problem is that the harm far, far, outways the good. It’s difficult to maximize. Think about it.
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
8:43 pm
@TC
Ignoring for the moment the deflection in your post:
Your argument is a straw-man argument that ignores the context of the events.
The revolutions in Russia and China were not religious revolutions. They were economic and political events. Both Stalin and Mao knew that to achieve absolute power, you needed absolute power over the proletariat. Religion and its leaders were an obstacle to achieving that power.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
8:44 pm
“The ideology of the Republican party makes a mockery of, and is the most total perversion of anything that can possibly be imagined as going under the name “Christian”.”
Amen.
Dunce Patrol
October 6th, 2012
8:45 pm
“The problem is that the harm far, far, outways the good. It’s difficult to maximize. Think about it.”
You need to come with us, sir.
Cherokee
October 6th, 2012
8:50 pm
Amazing isn’t it that some of our most dimwitted Congress critters are physicians?
Broun, Gingrey, Price… all of them loons. I used to think that you had to be reasonably smart to be a doctor – these guys sure prove that belief wrong…
Doggone/GA
October 6th, 2012
8:51 pm
“The problem is that the harm far, far, outways the good”
And you’ve got that backwards. If you only look for the bad, that’s all you will see.
Big Mama
October 6th, 2012
8:52 pm
I believe the original video is on youtube if anyone wants to see it.
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
8:54 pm
@hiram
Here, fixed this for you.
“I can accept the idea that I came from the same place as that dead possum on the side of the road…”
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
8:58 pm
” I used to think that you had to be reasonably smart to be a doctor ”
I have several friends who are physicians. To a man, they concede that to be a doctor, you need a good memory and a high tolerance for caffeine. But, to be a good doctor, it takes something more.
Joseph
October 6th, 2012
9:00 pm
As a Christian that’s what you should believe. I guess dems still don’t get it…..
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
9:06 pm
@Joseph
Guess it is no longer enough to be a Christian, you must be a GOP Christian.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
“Your argument is a straw-man argument that ignores the context of the events.
The revolutions in Russia and China were not religious revolutions. They were economic and political events. Both Stalin and Mao knew that to achieve absolute power, you needed absolute power over the proletariat. Religion and its leaders were an obstacle to achieving that power.”
So says you. First of all, Stalin was NOT responsible the Russian revolution – Lenin was. And Lenin was an avid Marxist who was clearly an atheist and explicitly anti-religious:
“Religion is the opium of the people: this saying of Marx is the cornerstone of the entire ideology of Marxism about religion. All modern religions and churches, all and of every kind of religious organizations are always considered by Marxism as the organs of bourgeois reaction, used for the protection of the exploitation and the stupefaction of the working class.”
and
“Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific socialism.”
Secondly, Lenin tied any felt sense of morality to Marxism:
“Lenin biographer Robert Service noted that Lenin considered “moral questions” to be “an irrelevance”, rejecting the concept of moral absolutism; instead he judged whether an action was justifiable based upon its chances of success for the revolutionary cause.”
Lenin CLEARLY had people imprisoned or killed because of their religion. So did Stalin (following Lenin’s lead and so did Mao). But I won’t bother to engage in a protracted debate on this matter as it has been thoroughly hashed out in many publications.
I responded mainly to say that my point to hiram is that people do GREAT harm to others for other than religious reasons. I cited Stalin and Mao as examples of people who did so for other reasons and pointed out that they were atheists just to underscore the point.
hiram
October 6th, 2012
9:07 pm
@Look before I leap…
“But, to be a good doctor, it takes something more.”
What?
Two Parties, One Con (Welcome)
October 6th, 2012
9:08 pm
So what porn star came out to endorse the good Christian Republican man of values Romney today?
Lar5
October 6th, 2012
9:13 pm
t’s really a shame but perhaps for the Vatican, the new zealot driven GOP is making the United States the laughing stock of the world.How could any world leader take us seriously?
TM
October 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
“So what porn star came out to endorse the good Christian Republican man of values Romney today?”
I don’t know but did Hilary say anything today???
getalife
October 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
My doctors believe in x rays, cat scans, mri’s blood tests, hearty by pass machines, icu equiptment,etc..
We don’t talk about religion but do talk about football.
Brosephus™
October 6th, 2012
9:14 pm
Well, we have another politician saying something that some people consider dumb or crazy… What’s new about that. I don’t know why anybody with a pulse would not expect Broun to say something like he did. He’s entitled to his beliefs, whether he believes in Jesus, Santa Claus, or the Wind God.
He’s nothing more than a product of his environment. It’s no different than the stuff that came out about the two Republicans in Arkansas. People are entitled to believe whatever they choose. Beliefs do not have to be grounded in fact either. That’s why they’re called beliefs.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
I have noted that Jay has not cited many “polls” lately. I guess because they are telling less of a good “story” for Obama these days.
F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
9:15 pm
My ears burned a little.
Did anyone call me?
Josef
October 6th, 2012
9:16 pm
Jay
As you might suspect, I was prepared to, oh, I guess you’d say go off on certain comments to be expected whenever the matter of belief or lack thereof is the topic. No need. You’ve handled it quite well and most respectfully. A tip of the kippa, Mec.
Gary
October 6th, 2012
9:19 pm
Religion is religion. Science is science. One should not dictate the other. While people are entitled to their beliefs, the Bible is nor a science text. What is most disturbing is that he sits on the House science committee.
DJ Sniper
October 6th, 2012
9:20 pm
These statements by Paul Broun are almost as bad as the statement made by Todd Akin back in 2008 when he said that doctors were performing abortions on women that aren’t even pregnant. How in the blue hell did these two morons end up on the Science and Technology Committee?
Nicholas Graham
October 6th, 2012
9:22 pm
This man is a complete ignoramus and why I often shiver at the thought of raising our children in the South!
Boofons like him are so dangerous because they are in positions of power & authority.
And the GOP is SO afraid of Obama being re-elected, yet morons like this with the logical capacity of a wet tissue run can amok within the Republican ranks?
I rarely care so much about left or right wing, just what makes sense, not just FOR ME, but for ALL of us together.
That seems to have been a consistent irritant of the Republican base all of my voting years; the GOP is inherently a selfish proposition. Their stance seems to boil down to: let each citizens do WHATEVER they want and keep everything for themselves, at the peril or benefit of anyone else.
The Democrats seem to promulgate much more of a SHARED vision, looking after the WHOLE. We all must live together and if you believe anything about “all of us being one”, a global, inter-connected economy, then the GOP doesn’t make much sense as they seem to not strive for humanity as a whole, but rather let everyone sink or swim on their own accord.
Just a thought. I’m always open to other ideas!
However, I could hardly be persuaded that this man’s stance here is anything other than the intelligence of a marshmallow!
Nick
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
What qualifies Broun to serve on any committee that includes the word “science” in it’s title? Science relies on observation of the physical world. Faith does not.
He can worship any creation ever conceived and I couldn’t care less but I most certainly do care about having such people in positions that they most certainly are not qualified to be in. Broun has clearly abandoned science and I’m good with that so long as he and others like him are not in any position to impose their faith on those that choose to believe in that which does not require faith.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:23 pm
It is sad that news like this doesn’t get a moment’s thought in these debates:
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/10/06/enter-at-your-own-risk-police-union-says-war-like-detroit-is-unsafe-for-visitors/
G Mare
October 6th, 2012
9:24 pm
Hang in there, Hiram. I appreciate that you are at least trying to inject a little sanity here.
TM
October 6th, 2012
9:25 pm
Gary whats your problem look what this committee is spending your money on–where does God factor in?? The Committee on Science, Space, and Technology has jurisdiction over all energy research, development, and demonstration, and projects therefor, and all federally owned or operated non-military energy laboratories; astronautical research and development, including resources, personnel, equipment, and facilities; civil aviation research and development; environmental research and development; marine research; commercial application of energy technology; National Institute of Standards and Technology, standardization of weights and measures and the metric system; National Aeronautics and Space Administration; National Science Foundation; National Weather Service; outer space, including exploration and control thereof; science scholarships; scientific research, development, and demonstration, and projects therefor.
F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
“We all must live together and if you believe anything about “all of us being one”, a global, inter-connected economy, ”
All together now:
Kum-Bye-Ahhhhhhhh, my lord, Kum-Bye-ahhhhhhhhhh
Pathetic, ain’t it?
Brosephus™
October 6th, 2012
9:28 pm
I appreciate that you are at least trying to inject a little sanity here.
Sanity??? At Bookman’s???
Couldn’t resist that one…
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
“The Democrats seem to promulgate much more of a SHARED vision, looking after the WHOLE. We all must live together and if you believe anything about “all of us being one”, a global, inter-connected economy, then the GOP doesn’t make much sense as they seem to not strive for humanity as a whole, but rather let everyone sink or swim on their own accord. ”
Yeah…how is that “vision” working out in Detroit? You strike me as yet another poster ostensibly claiming some degree of independence (”I rarely care so much about left or right wing, just what makes sense, not just FOR ME, but for ALL of us together.”) but who in reality in a liberal. Neither side is all that defensible. Do you REALLY want me to cite examples of what you call “morons…with the logical capacity of a wet tissue” running “amok” within the Democratic ranks (or are you smart enough to do that on your own)?
F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
9:31 pm
How ’bouts a blog on Black Liberation Theology? You know, Rev. Wright stuff. O’bozo listened to that for 20 years.
Appleseed
October 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
So man created God.
Tom Middleton
October 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
How about Robert Bentley, my governor over here in Alabama? Oh the day of his inauguration he said:
“Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I’m telling you, you’re not my brother and you’re not my sister, and I want to be your brother.”
Of course, that was right before he signed legislation sending Jesus-believing Mexicans the hell away from him and Alabama.
So is Robert Bentley really saved like he seems to think? Well, if Judas was, he sho’ nuff is, and dat’s fo’ evah and evah!
getalife
October 6th, 2012
9:32 pm
crier desperately trying to change the subject.
I am not sure why the gop appoint the worst possible cons for committees but corporate media will not ask them. They just giggle about it like it is some kind of sick joke.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
Enter your comments here
hiram
October 6th, 2012
9:33 pm
@dj
” How in the blue hell did these two morons end up on the Science and Technology Committee?”
You can attribute it to the Civil War. The intelligence of the South’s electorate was stunted and has never recovered. They prefer to focus their attention on the make believe world – you know, the one where the streets are paved with gold, etc. They are just visiting this world – it’s of little significance and disposable…
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:35 pm
“How ’bouts a blog on Black Liberation Theology? You know, Rev. Wright stuff. O’bozo listened to that for 20 years.”
That would clearly not serve to advance the “Narrative”.
Brosephus™
October 6th, 2012
9:36 pm
Tom
Didn’t know you were in Alabama. Bless your heart. I got away from there at the first opportunity that came my way.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
9:37 pm
“Pathetic, ain’t it?”
Yes, you are.
Miserable much?
Edward
October 6th, 2012
9:38 pm
I find the most disturbing part of his diatribe is this: “And what I’ve come to learn is that it’s the manufacturer’s handbook, is what I call it. It teaches us how to run our lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches. But it teaches us how to run all of public policy and everything in society. And that’s the reason as your congressman I hold the Holy Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I’ll continue to do that.”
That speaks of treason. He is supposed to, as his oath of office clearly states, uphold first and foremost the Constitution of the United States. Our government is not a theocracy, no matter what some lunatic religionist might believe.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:39 pm
“Of course, that was right before he signed legislation sending Jesus-believing Mexicans the hell away from him and Alabama.”
Would Jesus cross a border illegally? Just wondering…
DJ Sniper
October 6th, 2012
9:40 pm
That’s just as bad as Michele Bachmann being a member of the House Intelligence Committee. Talk about the world’s biggest oxymoron.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
“Our government is not a theocracy, no matter what some lunatic religionist might believe.”
Sounds like you might want to become a Marxist-Leninist:
http://marxistleninist.wordpress.com/
Good luck, comrade!
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
9:42 pm
What border would be illegal for Jesus to cross? Just wondering…
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (aka "Knuckle-Dragger")
October 6th, 2012
9:43 pm
Well, they keep trying to prove the theory of evolution, discounted by Darwin himself near the end of his life, but they have not proved it yet – not “species jumping”. So despite the secular humanists’ best efforts, it remains a theory, a hypothesis.
I was created in the image of God, as the Bible says. I am not some cosmic fluke “souped up” monkey. There is infinite value in that, which I am grateful for.
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
9:44 pm
Our government is not a theocracy. And acknowledgement of such does not imply belief in communism, socialism, etc.
Brosephus™
October 6th, 2012
9:44 pm
That would clearly not serve to advance the “Narrative”.
Funny that you mention that. From where I sit, some of Jay’s conservative detractors do more to push the “narrative” than anything Jay writes. Seems that Jay probably has more fun pulling you guy’s strings than actually believing most of what he posts.
If you read enough of Jay’s opinion pieces without injecting personal biases, Jay comes off as much more moderate than any conservative here gives him credit for. I think he posts some topics to do nothing more than to get a rise out of the conservatives that post here, and just like catfish at feeding time, you guys never fail to rise to the occasion.
Seems that the overall “narrative” is that the far right is unhinged and they are influencing the right, as a whole, down that same path. Based on the knee jerk reactions that are put on display here on a daily basis like a proud peacock, conservatives push the “narrative” to levels that Jay could never do on his own.
That’s just my opinion though.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
“What border would be illegal for Jesus to cross?”
Figure it out for yourself:
“Obey the government, for God is the one who put it there. All governments have been placed in power by God. So those who refuse to obey the laws of the land are refusing to obey God…”
Do you ever read the Bible? Just wondering…
F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
Micheal rode a boat to shore.
Ha-La-Luuuuuuuuu-Yaaa…
Can’t we all just get along?
hiram
October 6th, 2012
9:47 pm
Towncrier = td, the founder the Kennesaw Jr. College Rush Limbaugh listening club, and proud of it.
TM
October 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
“That speaks of treason. He is supposed to, as his oath of office clearly states, uphold first and foremost the Constitution of the United States” I think the last 60 years or so the Presidents have added “so help me God” at the end of their oath. I guess they including the current President should be jailed.
DJ Sniper
October 6th, 2012
9:48 pm
Excellent point TaxPayer.
F. Sinkwich
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
“That’s just my opinion though.”
Thanks for sharing.
Johnjay
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
The GOP is where facts don’t matter. Whether it’s science, economics or history their position is that you can just make it up and, if you tell a lie often enough and loudly enough, people will believe it. If bad things happen, blame it on the devil. Stay afraid, everybody. We’ll vote for Romney and be proud to be at the bottom of the barrel in education and earnings.
Jay
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Yes. The “treason” argument is well over the top.
Josef
October 6th, 2012
9:49 pm
Some people just don’t know when to keep their mouths shut. Some go into politics. Others go onto the blogs.
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Thank you for the mini-lesson on Lenin and Marx.
You state:
“Lenin CLEARLY had people imprisoned or killed because of their religion. So did Stalin (following Lenin’s lead and so did Mao).”
Then you go on to say:
” …I cited Stalin and Mao as examples of people who did so for other reasons”
The two statements are in opposition.
That said, I agree that the motivation for the persecution and execution of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of believers was not based on religious ideology, but on political expediency.
More concisely, they were not killed because they believed in God, they were killed because that belief was perceived to be a threat to maintaining political control.
Doggone/GA
October 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
“Some go into politics. Others go onto the blogs.”
Yeah, well…it’s the ones in politics that have the potential to do some REAL harm. Blogs – not so much.
Johnjay
October 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Vast – a theory and a hypothosis are not the same thing.
Brosephus™
October 6th, 2012
9:52 pm
Some people just don’t know when to keep their mouths shut. Some go into politics. Others go onto the blogs.
If you didn’t speak the truth then…
Dirty Dawg
October 6th, 2012
9:53 pm
The saddest part is that Democrats are so damned weak that they can’t even find somebody to run against this effin idiot. I mean if you just put a human being on the ballot that will say, ‘I’m here to give those that are ashamed to have a peckerwood like this representing us in Congress a choice. Hell, even if you didn’t spend a dime surely you could get the Athens/Clarke County vote.
Johnjay
October 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
God likes SC more than He likes UGA. I guess it figures that God would be a Spurrier fan.
TM
October 6th, 2012
9:54 pm
Oh and what was our President’s left hand on when he raised his right hand and took the oath of office? That would be a???? Maybe a Bible???
hiram
October 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
Why incognito, td? Is your goal to repeat the same Rush Limbaugh quotes under different names, so that people will get the impression that there’s more than one of you?
getalife
October 6th, 2012
9:55 pm
crier,
Jesus crossed many borders to preach the word of God.
They never checked his papers but did nail him to a cross.
Is that what you want to do crier?
Nail Jesus to the cross?
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
9:56 pm
I see Towncrier does not wonder who wrote the Bible. He just blindly follows its every word without question. Good for you. Good for me though that our government is not a Theocracy.
Tundra Dude
October 6th, 2012
9:57 pm
“The Church Doesn’t Like the People to Grow Up.”~ Bishop John Shelby Spong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BkP9-HG8-I&feature=related
“Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.”–Napoleon
johnscreekbetty
October 6th, 2012
9:59 pm
I get that he doesn’t like The Big Bang Theory, but does he like How I Met Your Mother?
DJ Sniper
October 6th, 2012
10:01 pm
TM, I haven’t heard Obama disparage evolution, nor have I heard him condemn anybody else for their beliefs.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
10:03 pm
“Funny that you mention that. From where I sit, some of Jay’s conservative detractors do more to push the “narrative” than anything Jay writes.”
Judging from the various conservative AND liberal blogs I read, I would say you are sitting in the bleachers. It is not at all uncommon to see Jay making the same argument being made on some other liberal blog.
“Seems that Jay probably has more fun pulling you guy’s strings than actually believing most of what he posts.”
That may be true to some extent, but I don’t think it applies much of the time. He is generally pretty quick to defend something he has said or his fairness if questioned.
“If you read enough of Jay’s opinion pieces without injecting personal biases, Jay comes off as much more moderate than any conservative here gives him credit for.”
I have read many of his columns over the past few months and, what is more, have interacted with him numerous times. I don’t think he is a fringe liberal, but he is left-leaning to be sure. I would NOT call him a “centrist”.
“I think he posts some topics to do nothing more than to get a rise out of the conservatives that post here, and just like catfish at feeding time, you guys never fail to rise to the occasion.”
If it makes you feel better to think that, have at it.
“Seems that the overall “narrative” is that the far right is unhinged and they are influencing the right, as a whole, down that same path. Based on the knee jerk reactions that are put on display here on a daily basis like a proud peacock, conservatives push the “narrative” to levels that Jay could never do on his own.”
I think you need to “get out more”. You seem to be pretty oblivious to some of the “knee jerk reactions” that are put on NATIONAL display by a number of prominent members of the media (prominent enough, for example, to even moderate debates). And you appear to be one of the professed “independents” who often seem to be only nominally so. If I read through your many posts, I think it is fair to say I would find you coming down on the liberal side on issues most of the time. And so that is probably why you fashion Jay to be a “moderate” – because you fashion yourself to be so and you agree with him most of the time.
That’s just my opinion though.
Johnjay
October 6th, 2012
10:05 pm
Y’all do know that this is far from the most outrageous thing that Paul Broun has said.
Towncrier
October 6th, 2012
10:07 pm
“I see Towncrier does not wonder who wrote the Bible. He just blindly follows its every word without question.”
I see TaxPayer makes references to Jesus, God and the Bible without having much or any familiarity with them. He just blindly believes what he has heard from others without question.
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
10:08 pm
@hiram
“@Look before I leap…
“But, to be a good doctor, it takes something more.”
What?”
Well according to them, it depends:
For clinical physicians, compassion and the ability to treat the patient and not just the disease
For research physicians, dogged patience and intuition.
But my point was, it does not take more than an average IQ and a good memory to become a doctor.
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
10:10 pm
Y’all do know that this is far from the most outrageous thing that Paul Broun has said.
Indeed. It seems like only yesterday when Broun was working diligently to bless a door before Obama walked through it to make sure that the devil was driven from him. I don’t know if it worked though because I don’t think those Kenyan-born devils understand English or Latin and I don’t believe Broun speaks Kenyan.
East Cobb RINO, INC (LLC)
October 6th, 2012
10:11 pm
It seems as if Georgia Rep. Paul Broun were as hard core in his beliefs why would he work as a medical doctor. He should just be a faith healer. But then again Earnest Angley makes a pretty good living but at least he is fleecing fellow believers.
TaxPayer
October 6th, 2012
10:11 pm
I see TaxPayer makes references to Jesus, God and the Bible without having much or any familiarity with them. He just blindly believes what he has heard from others without question.
Actually I was blindly referencing your posts, Towncrier.
Look before I leap...
October 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
Guys
I find it very hard to believe that Towncrier is td as the thought of td actually reading Robert Service is causing quite a mad case of the giggles here.
getalife
October 6th, 2012
10:12 pm
Preach it crier,
Thou shall not kill, greed and lying are sins, and nailing Jesus to the Cross.
Preach it hypocrite.